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Speaker 1: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 2: It is Friday, September fifteenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 2: episode number thirty two.
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Speaker 2: Our job today to get you guys ready for Cowboys
Speaker 2: Versus Jets. That's happening this sundy at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 2: It is the home opener for the Cowboys. They are
Speaker 2: looking to.
Speaker 3: Go to two.
Speaker 2: Jet's also looking to go to and Oh. So it'll
Speaker 2: be a fun game, interesting game. Lots of things for
Speaker 2: us to talk about today. We're gonna start with us
Speaker 2: injury updates. There were several there are several players that
Speaker 2: are still on the injury report. So Patrick, give me
Speaker 2: some updates where we look at.
Speaker 6: Yes, we're gonna try to navigate around Ambar's panic and
Speaker 6: seeing Zach Martin appear on the injury.
Speaker 7: Yes, I was like, Okay, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: We're gonna work through this.
Speaker 5: Let's just breathe. We're gonna work through this because Zach Martin.
Speaker 6: Yes, he did pop up on the injury report as
Speaker 6: limited in yesterday's practice, which was a full practice with
Speaker 6: a growing issue slash injury. But in Zach Martin's Weekly
Speaker 6: addressed to one oh five point three from the fanel yesterday,
Speaker 6: he said, quote unquote, I'm good, just dealing with some tightness.
Speaker 6: They were taking care of me today, end quote. So
Speaker 6: it sounds as if nothing mad. Yeah, just that kind
Speaker 6: of day. And you know some veteran guys, so you know,
Speaker 6: be extra precautious. So no concern there for Zach Martin.
Speaker 6: Let's fingers crossed that stays that way because we don't
Speaker 6: want to AMBARTI panic.
Speaker 5: Donovan Wilson, great news.
Speaker 7: Shock, you're the Cowboys, Okay, if something happens to y'all
Speaker 7: like that, that's full panic.
Speaker 5: No good news.
Speaker 6: Donovan Wilson upgraded to limit it. That was his first
Speaker 6: padded practice participation since suffering his hamstring injury in the
Speaker 6: first week of training.
Speaker 8: Camp.
Speaker 5: Oh calf injury.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, since the first week of training camp so
Speaker 6: before they had on pads. Yes, since last season, so
Speaker 6: Donovan Wilson. It just made a huge lead toward getting
Speaker 6: on the field on Sunday. Brandon Cooks, he was d
Speaker 6: and p did not participate on yesterday, which was expected
Speaker 6: based on what Mike McCarthy said yesterday morning. He'll likely
Speaker 6: be in the rehab group again today. That's that's what
Speaker 6: was intimated by general manager and owner Jerry Jones on
Speaker 6: the fan this morning, not you know, thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 6: So but he also said that there's a long way
Speaker 6: to go between now and kickoff, so they're not making
Speaker 6: any kind of determinations on Brandon Cooks right now. He said,
Speaker 6: quote unquote, it's not like he needs the reps. So
Speaker 6: sounds like Cooks could be a game time decision, but
Speaker 6: if he doesn't practice, that doesn't exclude him from playing.
Speaker 6: See you got Tyler Smith. Sounds like Tyler Smith probably
Speaker 6: not going to go. We'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 6: But Jerry Jones on the fan this morning did not
Speaker 6: sound optimistic at all. And then when you combine that
Speaker 6: with what Mike McCarthy has been saying this week just
Speaker 6: doesn't seem to be the case. He Jerry did say
Speaker 6: that Tyler is quote unquote the least possible probable to
Speaker 6: play to be acted this Sunday against the Jets. So
Speaker 6: it sounds like it's going to be another round for
Speaker 6: Chunma Ydoga and who else we got Tyron Smith. He
Speaker 6: was a full participant and both of these practices.
Speaker 9: So I'm going to.
Speaker 6: Turn it really quickly to the Jets because here's what's
Speaker 6: interesting to me from the Jets standpoint one, something that
Speaker 6: we saw yesterday. Breece Hall, Makai Beckton, and Dwayne Brown.
Speaker 6: They're all still limited, even though Thursday was a full
Speaker 6: practice for the Jets, so they're still limited. And we
Speaker 6: talk about stopping Breese Hall. We talk about Cowboys defensive
Speaker 6: front against the Jets line. Jets O line not healthy,
Speaker 6: Breeze Hall dealing with a knee issueg zureline is now
Speaker 6: fifty to fifty to play against the Cowboys. Now for me,
Speaker 6: this is where this is why that information is key.
Speaker 6: If he does play, he's obviously playing on a hurt
Speaker 6: growing one that's hurt to the point where they're considering
Speaker 6: sitting him. How does that impact Robert Sealer's offensive game
Speaker 6: plan and Nathaniel Hackett's offensive game plan?
Speaker 5: Does that make them more aggressive because they know.
Speaker 6: That they might not have the distance that they normally
Speaker 6: have as far as field goal attempts for Greg Zerline? Also,
Speaker 6: would they give a guy like Cavante Turpin more opportunities
Speaker 6: in the kick returning game because zero line, if he's
Speaker 6: the placekicker with a hurt growing, maybe that minimizes or
Speaker 6: eliminates the possibility of touchback. So something to keep an
Speaker 6: eye on their, ladies and gentlemen. Does Greg Zerline play
Speaker 6: and if he does, he's not completely healthy. What does
Speaker 6: that do for the Jets?
Speaker 2: One thing to note about Greg Zerline while he was here,
Speaker 2: that was taught that he didn't have the same level
Speaker 2: of distance that he once did. His leg wasn't as
Speaker 2: strong as it once was. I wonder how much a
Speaker 2: growing going to your point, how much a groin injury
Speaker 2: affects that even more when you talk about distance, that
Speaker 2: that I think may become an issue for them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 2: But give me a pulse on what you guys think
Speaker 2: if if Brandon Cooks can't go for the Cowboys how
Speaker 2: much does that affect this team and what they're trying
Speaker 2: to do offensively.
Speaker 3: I think it affects them a lot, I really do.
Speaker 3: And and it puts a lot more pressure on Michael Gallup.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what you want as a cowboy fan to
Speaker 3: for him to have to to get more of an opportunity.
Speaker 3: It puts a lot of pressure on Jalen Tolbert as well,
Speaker 3: you know. And so you've got two guys right there,
Speaker 3: you know, you're everybody. It was it was nice to
Speaker 3: see Gallup have a reception in that game the other day,
Speaker 3: start the second half. But yeah, Brandon Cooks against this secondary,
Speaker 3: you're going to need guys that find ways to separate.
Speaker 3: You're and you know not to Tollbird and and Gallop
Speaker 3: can't do that. But the one guy that consistently sides
Speaker 3: Lamb that could separate is Cooks. You know. So if
Speaker 3: it turns into you know, there has to be a
Speaker 3: sureness or the way you run a route. There has
Speaker 3: to be some separation there if you can gain it,
Speaker 3: because this secondary will make it different difficult for you,
Speaker 3: and their pass rush will make it difficult for you too.
Speaker 3: So to me, if it's I would say that it's
Speaker 3: one of those one of those serious things. If you're
Speaker 3: you know, like we Ambar would talk about if you
Speaker 3: were to take Zach Martin out, I think taking Brandon
Speaker 3: Cooks out is just as important, just from the standpoint
Speaker 3: of how I potentially can move the football in this.
Speaker 7: Game Without a Brandon Cooks. I mean, this offense completely
Speaker 7: changes in my eyes. I think he's that extra little
Speaker 7: cherry on top that brings the spark, spark into the
Speaker 7: offense that we haven't seen it working in full go
Speaker 7: just yet. We haven't seen the passing game be at
Speaker 7: its best just yet, so they're still trying to find
Speaker 7: that game. Obviously different weather conditions here, but also here
Speaker 7: in the comments you, Brian, you broke down the defense
Speaker 7: we heard yesterday. I believe it was Micah Parsons talking
Speaker 7: about this is a really, really good defense, and he
Speaker 7: even jokingly mentioned it to Dak like, hey, you guys
Speaker 7: gotta take it serious because it's a tough defense to
Speaker 7: go up again. So you talk about possibly losing that
Speaker 7: type of element speed, I think it does change your
Speaker 7: game a little bit, but you still have other guys
Speaker 7: that you can still use. We saw again we talked
Speaker 7: about Cavanta Turpin what he was able to do. Hopefully
Speaker 7: that's something that becomes more of a consistent in a
Speaker 7: consistent basis, because that hasn't happened yet, but we'll see.
Speaker 7: And he did Brendan Cooks, he did mention like if
Speaker 7: it wasn't one hundred percent, he wouldn't be playing. So
Speaker 7: I'm really curious to see what his actual condition is
Speaker 7: and what the medical staff really thinks.
Speaker 3: I think I think that if if if it was
Speaker 3: a legitimate knee sprain, I don't think he plays. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's where and I think that you know,
Speaker 3: when Patrick got to visit with him in the locker
Speaker 3: room and others have got to talk to him, and
Speaker 3: you know that that Jerry Jones is talking about that
Speaker 3: well he doesn't need to have reps and all that,
Speaker 3: I think that you know it it in that regard,
Speaker 3: it does bode well. I'm like I said, I just
Speaker 3: feel like where this team is at right now, you
Speaker 3: need as many people stressing this defense out as you can.
Speaker 3: And you take him out there, there's that stress level
Speaker 3: goes away for the Jets, and so I you know this,
Speaker 3: I want to believe this guy is going to play.
Speaker 3: I want to because if it was, if it was
Speaker 3: as doom and gloom as everybody you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: there were some reports yesterday coming out about you know,
Speaker 3: you know, Knees spraying nes knees brain. I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 3: he's not gonna play. But the fact that you know
Speaker 3: that he is where is that I think there's a
Speaker 3: possibility that he does play.
Speaker 6: I think I think it goes to the wire in
Speaker 6: the aspect of I think the Cowboys hold him out
Speaker 6: of today's walk through and tomorrow's walk through as well,
Speaker 6: and just use this as as an ice week for him,
Speaker 6: so to speak, so that it's as rested and as
Speaker 6: good as possible going against the Jets, Because to answer
Speaker 6: your question, Derek, I think it'd be a really big loss. Now, Yes,
Speaker 6: to Ambar's point, you have other horses in the stable.
Speaker 6: You have Michael Gallup, who you're gonna task with stepping up.
Speaker 5: You have Jalen.
Speaker 6: Tobert who would love to have this opportunity, especially this
Speaker 6: early in the season, because that young man's champion at
Speaker 6: the bit to get out there and show that training
Speaker 6: camp and preseason wasn't a fluke. And I love what
Speaker 6: you said about Cavante Turpin, because that's what I was thinking,
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 5: As like a third body who could.
Speaker 6: Potentially be, you know, someone who can get separation, who
Speaker 6: can give that Brandon Cook's s esque kind of quickness
Speaker 6: in space and on quick raps and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: and then that would by default maybe that brings do
Speaker 6: Vaughn more into the backfield and gets duce von.
Speaker 3: So I'm involved.
Speaker 6: I'm assuming that if Brandon Cooks doesn't play, obviously the
Speaker 6: Cowboys are going to have a contingency plan for that.
Speaker 6: For me, that's going to be a package of gallop
Speaker 6: with Tobert and then you mix thin Cavante turpin as well,
Speaker 6: which you know, like I said, it should allow do
Speaker 6: small rips in the backfield. But I mean, there's no
Speaker 6: way to sugarcoat it. If Cooks is off of the field,
Speaker 6: that's you just took a nuke out of the equation.
Speaker 6: I mean, Michael Gallup is capable, Turping is capable Tobert.
Speaker 6: He's shown he's capable in preseason and training camp, not
Speaker 6: just yet in a regular season game. But none of
Speaker 6: those guys, in no disrespect him, none of those guys
Speaker 6: have Cooks' skill set. But I'm with Brian, I feel
Speaker 6: like it's going to come down to the wire. But
Speaker 6: I think Cook's plays.
Speaker 2: I think that you're back to if he doesn't play,
Speaker 2: you're back to what you were last year, which is
Speaker 2: if they can figure out a way to neutralize.
Speaker 5: Hopefully with the better Tobart though absolutely you can. You
Speaker 5: can make an argument.
Speaker 2: You can make the argument that you think Gallup is
Speaker 2: going to be better. You can make the argument that
Speaker 2: you think told will be better. We have not seen
Speaker 2: that yet though, right, And that's the part like until
Speaker 2: you see it, you don't know if you can necessarily
Speaker 2: trust it in these games. And what we saw last
Speaker 2: season was if teams could figure out a way, particularly
Speaker 2: there at the end of season, they fgure out a
Speaker 2: way to take Ceede. Lamb out of the game, then
Speaker 2: that that had a big effect.
Speaker 5: Your tight ends step up big.
Speaker 6: That's going to be another layer to it as well,
Speaker 6: is you know, stretching the middle, like taxing the middle
Speaker 6: of the field, applying pressure to the middle of the
Speaker 6: field in those linebackers. So if cooks Iss not on
Speaker 6: the field, I mean you need your tight ends to
Speaker 6: step up and make these catches anyway, and I think
Speaker 6: they are going to be tasked with doing that much
Speaker 6: more so than they were in inclement weather in New York.
Speaker 6: But without Cooks on the field, you got somebody else.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and how much Now does that mean
Speaker 3: that Lamb plays slot right? You know? And now? And
Speaker 3: so to me that the matchup of him and Michael
Speaker 3: Carter and the slot favors the Cowboys. But do the
Speaker 3: Jets counter by saying we'll stick Read or we'll stick
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardener in the slot. We're not gonna let you.
Speaker 3: That's they don't want to move it now that they
Speaker 3: if you if you watch when they got down in
Speaker 3: the red zone, there was one series where they flipped
Speaker 3: the corners where they put Sauce on the right side
Speaker 3: and brought Reed. And I wonder if it had to
Speaker 3: do what they felt like that that Buffalo was a
Speaker 3: right handed team. That the way that they use their
Speaker 3: red zone offense is they attacked the right because when
Speaker 3: you see the flow, it's always seems like it's the quarterback.
Speaker 3: It was the flow. Everything is going to the right
Speaker 3: side there, and maybe they felt like that, you know,
Speaker 3: with Reid, maybe he'd be a little bit more physical
Speaker 3: over there. But you you you have to figure out
Speaker 3: and and the fact that they've probably well not probably,
Speaker 3: they've practiced all week without cooks. You know, I'm sure
Speaker 3: that they have a really good slot plan because you
Speaker 3: know they I would find I would find as many
Speaker 3: ways possible to get Turpin or e be okay, Turpin
Speaker 3: or Tolbert on sast Gardner. There you go. I am
Speaker 3: going to figure out you were going to cover somebody
Speaker 3: all day. I'm gonna make you just run today. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna let you. I'm probably not gonna throw a
Speaker 3: ball your direction, but I'm gonna make you run all
Speaker 3: day today and not playing this game because I'm not.
Speaker 3: If I don't have cooks, I got to now find
Speaker 3: a way to use Lamb in another way to kind
Speaker 3: of create a will match in a favorable matchup. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's my idea. Yep, I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: Here's a question I have for you guys. I was
Speaker 2: watching the game last night, the Eagles. They get the win,
Speaker 2: but it became very apparent to me. I think looking
Speaker 2: at the football watch last weekend and then watching again
Speaker 2: last night, I think across the league, defenses are quite
Speaker 2: a bit ahead of offenses and My question for you
Speaker 2: is do you agree with that statement, and if so,
Speaker 2: what do you think is the reason for that.
Speaker 6: I do agree, and I think it's largely in part
Speaker 6: due to the fact that, you know, more often than not,
Speaker 6: hit coaches just want to protect their starters in the preseason.
Speaker 6: It's particularly offensively when you're talking about, you know, franchise
Speaker 6: quarterbacks and key offensive linemen because you don't want to
Speaker 6: lose an offensive lineman. You see around the league that
Speaker 6: ol depth is an issue, you know, particularly here in
Speaker 6: Dallas as well, behind those five starters. But when you
Speaker 6: have a situation where often you have these head coaches
Speaker 6: that are like, you know what, we're not going to
Speaker 6: risk it, or we're going to greatly minimize the number
Speaker 6: of reps that our starters have in the preseason, kind
Speaker 6: of still using trying to use the third game, which
Speaker 6: would typically be the dress rehearsal in a four game
Speaker 6: scenario in preseason, still trying to get those guys some reps,
Speaker 6: if any reps at all. But when you don't have
Speaker 6: those preseason reps, then you're going to have your offenses
Speaker 6: come out and they're trying to find themselves, and then
Speaker 6: you have a.
Speaker 7: Situation like during training camps, the offense are the ones
Speaker 7: who have the advantage at practicing.
Speaker 3: And one on ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one on ones, But I think, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think they get a different kind of work the
Speaker 7: offense versus what the defense is actually doing, because we
Speaker 7: know the defense cannot be full go. So in the
Speaker 7: scenario you're killing me with those eyes. I don't know,
Speaker 7: but I think in this scenario you're presenting, I alast
Speaker 7: agree with you. At first, it makes perfect sense, but
Speaker 7: then I started thinking of how training camp usually is,
Speaker 7: and it's the opposite where I feel like the offense
Speaker 7: is actually getting more quote unquote valuable work and being
Speaker 7: in sync with players and throwing those passes as opposed
Speaker 7: to what the defense are doing exact.
Speaker 6: But then let's add in the context of let's take
Speaker 6: the Cowboys for example, Right, the Cowboys, you have a
Speaker 6: new play caller, right, and maybe somewhere else in the
Speaker 6: league you have a new play caller or a second
Speaker 6: year guy.
Speaker 5: Like Nathaniel Hackett or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6: So you have a new play caller or new ish
Speaker 6: play caller and they're trying to do installs. Whereas if
Speaker 6: you flip it if you keep it to the data side,
Speaker 6: Dallas as an example, this is Dan quinn system, and
Speaker 6: for the most part, this is his same assistant coaching staff,
Speaker 6: and for the most part they were able to prevent
Speaker 6: attrition and turnover.
Speaker 5: And free agency and things like that.
Speaker 6: So that defensive unit, of this defensive unit in Dallas
Speaker 6: is pretty much holding.
Speaker 5: It's a continuation.
Speaker 6: But when you have Cowboys that were adding in Brandon
Speaker 6: Cooks and then Jaylen Tobert was trying to get some burn,
Speaker 6: Cavante Turper's trying to get some burn, let's mix in
Speaker 6: Hunter Lipkey. Hey, let's throw induce Vaughn as well. Oh,
Speaker 6: by the way, Zach Martin had a holdout. So from
Speaker 6: that context, the Cowboys offense, if we're using that as
Speaker 6: just a microcosm of the example, was did not have
Speaker 6: the advantage in training camp. So yeah, the defense will
Speaker 6: come out and that's why the defense. Yes, there was
Speaker 6: rain and everything as well, but the defense, even on
Speaker 6: a clear sky in New York, I believe the defense
Speaker 6: would have still had the advantage over what we would
Speaker 6: have expected to see from the offense. But then you
Speaker 6: tie it into generally speaking from a macro, if the
Speaker 6: trend continues where we're in head coaches are and I'm
Speaker 6: completely on board with it.
Speaker 5: Check the receipts. I don't want franchise players playing in
Speaker 5: the preseason.
Speaker 9: I'm fine with that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's gonna take a little bit, you know,
Speaker 6: one or two weeks for those offenses to catch up
Speaker 6: with the opposing defenses, because to me, the defenses have
Speaker 6: the league.
Speaker 3: There's just not good enough offensive lineman in the league.
Speaker 5: There's that that's a problem.
Speaker 3: When you watch these games, and every team has that problem.
Speaker 3: We work on the Draft show every year and we
Speaker 3: talk about there's there's outstanding defensive players in this league.
Speaker 3: The Russians, the rush at the edges, the tackles, uh linebackers,
Speaker 3: the front seven. The ability to cover is so much better.
Speaker 3: Now you don't have enough. You don't have enough offensive
Speaker 3: lineman you're playing if you're you're lucky if you have
Speaker 3: one or two that are really really good. And what
Speaker 3: happens is that puts a lot of pressure on your
Speaker 3: offense when you're in ability to block. Saw a great
Speaker 3: example of that the other day in the Cowboys game.
Speaker 3: Giants have worked on their offensive line. They don't have
Speaker 3: it right. You know what happened. They got exposed teams.
Speaker 3: Look what happened with Minnesota. I mean those those teams.
Speaker 3: Everybody's got situations with their offensive line. There's just not
Speaker 3: enough good offensive linemen to go around. The draft has
Speaker 3: been a little better for the top of the draft
Speaker 3: for some teams, but there's also been a lot of
Speaker 3: misses there more.
Speaker 7: Defensive what needs to happen with like the college players.
Speaker 3: The problem, the real problem is though that that there
Speaker 3: it's harder to find offensive linemen just because of their size.
Speaker 3: You know, you could take converted running backs and make
Speaker 3: them edge rushers. You could take converted Uh, you can
Speaker 3: take converted I mean we've seen guys like quarterbacks, we've
Speaker 3: seen running backs, We've seen you know, you can convert
Speaker 3: players to play, bulk them up and play other positions.
Speaker 3: It's hard. Yeah, yeah, it's hard. It's hard to find
Speaker 3: offensive line bodies. The one thing offensive linemen have come
Speaker 3: a little bit better and the way that teams, uh,
Speaker 3: the way that we've got the seven on seven in
Speaker 3: high school football with it's all about passing, Well, where
Speaker 3: do we work the offensive lineman in this drills? Where
Speaker 3: where do we develop offensive linemen? A lot of it
Speaker 3: is natural ability and they were brought up. Hey, you're
Speaker 3: not a you're not an edge, you're a right tackle
Speaker 3: or you're a left tackle. You know, it's very very
Speaker 3: rare that we have enough of these guys, especially and
Speaker 3: the way the game is throwing the ball every snap,
Speaker 3: these guys don't develop as run blockers. They really don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're fortunate. Do you have a guy like
Speaker 3: Terrence Steele who's complete opposite. He is a much better
Speaker 3: run blocker than he is a pass blocker. But there's
Speaker 3: a lot of guys in college and he came from
Speaker 3: a school at Texas Tech that threw the ball every
Speaker 3: single snap. But that's just that rare development. But you
Speaker 3: don't have You just don't have guys going and playing
Speaker 3: high school college NFL offensive line. It's easier to convert position, like, okay,
Speaker 3: well I'm going to take this running back and make
Speaker 3: him an edge. Put some weight on a mix. Though
Speaker 3: you got a two hundred and forty eight pound guy
Speaker 3: screaming off the edge trying to go up against a
Speaker 3: tackle that is not athletic enough to handle that. That's
Speaker 3: a big problem right now.
Speaker 2: And you look at the athletes of them are opting
Speaker 2: to play defensive line. And I think it's because you
Speaker 2: can use your athleticism in a way that's probably a
Speaker 2: little more fun. Like, I just think you got a
Speaker 2: lot more athletes coming out. You look at the defensive
Speaker 2: tackles around the league. You can go to almost every
Speaker 2: team and find a really good defensive.
Speaker 3: Tackle these days, especially in that division.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that used to not be the case. A three
Speaker 2: technique on almost every team you'll find a really good one, right,
Speaker 2: And that used to not be the case.
Speaker 3: And I think it's because.
Speaker 2: Over time they've gotten a little more a little better,
Speaker 2: because athletes are choosing that position because they know the opportunity.
Speaker 3: The next position that's going to die is running backs, right,
Speaker 3: kids are not going to play running backs. We're going
Speaker 3: to start to see but that's that's what I'm saying that.
Speaker 3: And you know, some of these running backs in college,
Speaker 3: the way they use the NIO money will be better
Speaker 3: than the money they make in the NFL. And it's
Speaker 3: it's just we're going to come to a point where
Speaker 3: colleges are going to start to use receivers like what
Speaker 3: San Francisco is doing, and as they're just running backs.
Speaker 3: The Deebo Samuels and those kinds of guys.
Speaker 2: And you saw a debo it was like he was like, no,
Speaker 2: don't you can use me a little bit there.
Speaker 3: I'm a receiver. Let's be clear.
Speaker 5: I'm a receiver.
Speaker 2: I think I think more and more players will be like.
Speaker 3: The last one's. Like this draft was incredible, that the
Speaker 3: Jean Robinson's and others in this draft. But it is
Speaker 3: going to become a dying position because it's they're just
Speaker 3: not going to use him anymore. People are not I
Speaker 3: don't want to. I don't want to play running back.
Speaker 3: Play me at linebacker, play me at play me somewhere else.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into Cowboys versus Jets.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: Let's talk first about Garrett Wilson. He's the wide receiver
Speaker 2: for the Jets. Very talented wide receiver. I know you
Speaker 2: said yesterday, Brian, and he's a guy that kind of
Speaker 2: can move around. Talk to me a little bit about
Speaker 2: what you guys think the matchup looks like him against Diggs,
Speaker 2: Gilmour and Bland, because if he's moving around, he may
Speaker 2: be either of those three may be covering him at
Speaker 2: different points during the game. What do you think of
Speaker 2: the matchup?
Speaker 6: I think when it comes to I mean, each one
Speaker 6: covers differently, but each one excels at what they do.
Speaker 6: Like Deron Bland, for example, much more physical much he
Speaker 6: likes to play tighter and being your personal space, disrupt
Speaker 6: your time, and he loves the man coverage of the
Speaker 6: three players that you just named, whereas a guy like
Speaker 6: Diggs he can do man, but he's better as far
Speaker 6: as being able to drop back, read and react.
Speaker 5: And then Gilmore he.
Speaker 6: Has the football IQ to just be able to do
Speaker 6: whatever needs to be done because he knows the route
Speaker 6: nine times out of ten that you're about to run
Speaker 6: before you come out of your break.
Speaker 5: So it's just it's.
Speaker 6: A matter of who he's going to line up against
Speaker 6: Garret Wilson I'm speaking of, and then that's basically how
Speaker 6: the rept is going to end up going. So if
Speaker 6: you see him lined up in the slot for whatever reason,
Speaker 6: and he's in that nickel against Iron Bland, you can
Speaker 6: expect to see some immediate disruption in the timing of
Speaker 6: that route because Dron Bland is going to get up there,
Speaker 6: he's gonna jamhm, He's going to hit him, get physical,
Speaker 6: and he's going to glue himself to his hip.
Speaker 5: Trevon Diggs.
Speaker 6: He'll hit and release so that he can play a
Speaker 6: little bit more in space so he can read whether
Speaker 6: the quarterback's trying to throw the ball and then hopefully
Speaker 6: jump the route. Stefan Gilmore, He's going to play at
Speaker 6: midway where it's like he can press, but he's more
Speaker 6: comfortable allowing the first step to happen so that he
Speaker 6: can see what if it's an inside or outside breaking,
Speaker 6: then his football IQ and his experience tells him this
Speaker 6: is what the route looks like is going to happen.
Speaker 6: So it'll be a fun matchup no matter who he
Speaker 6: ends up going against. Garrett Wilson does, but in any
Speaker 6: of those situations, all bet and I'll say again, Garrett
Speaker 6: Wilson is an exceptional talent. When you look at the secondary,
Speaker 6: particularly those three guys that you just talked about, he's
Speaker 6: going to have his hands full.
Speaker 3: My hope is that the Jets don't run the ball
Speaker 3: and then make these corners have to play in the game,
Speaker 3: and when they on the edge, you know that they
Speaker 3: have to come up, make a tackle, come up, make
Speaker 3: a tackle, come getting blocked, come up, make a tackle.
Speaker 3: You know that that's that's wear and tear on you
Speaker 3: right there during a game, and so you almost have
Speaker 3: to play a separate game. I worry about the Jets,
Speaker 3: like I say, the run, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it's they go play action. And now Garrett Wilson's running
Speaker 3: by you because you're a little beat up from having
Speaker 3: to defend the run. But you're not. But you're and
Speaker 3: you're not focusing because you're focusing on Wait a minute,
Speaker 3: it's it's cracked toss. It's it's you know, just toss, sweep,
Speaker 3: oh balls, bounce the outside. You can lower yourself into
Speaker 3: just playing got to play the run, got to play
Speaker 3: the run? Got well if they just ran past me.
Speaker 3: You know, you shouldn't be scared of Alan Lazard's speed,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be scared of Randall Cobbs speed. But what
Speaker 3: you should be scared of is Garrett Wilson win his
Speaker 3: ability to run by you. There if in fact, it
Speaker 3: turns into run, run, run, run, run pass. You know
Speaker 3: that kind of thing where all of a sudden, now
Speaker 3: they're making you have to they're taking you out of
Speaker 3: your game where you're so used to just running routes
Speaker 3: with the guy covering a guy covering a guy covering
Speaker 3: a guy. But now the Jets make you play a
Speaker 3: physical side of the game, and you're now pushed into
Speaker 3: that role. That's the thing that would worry me a
Speaker 3: little bit about playing this. You know a plan. I
Speaker 3: think this game is really going to hinge on the
Speaker 3: Cowboys offensive ability to score points. I know points wins games,
Speaker 3: but you put pressure on the Jets to have to
Speaker 3: score with you, it will be a it will be
Speaker 3: a problem for their offense.
Speaker 5: Make the score boar the twelfth defender.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't want to say. What I want to
Speaker 7: say is the mail miss up by segment?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 7: No, because if I say it, I'm gonna screw up
Speaker 7: one of the things that I'm gonna do in the segment.
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna save it all right.
Speaker 2: When we say that, talk about Quinn Williams. He is,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, maybe the best defender they have on
Speaker 2: their team. He and Sauce Gardner, but certainly a force
Speaker 2: there on the defensive line. How do you expect him
Speaker 2: to line up? Where do you expect him the lineup
Speaker 2: and what do you expect the matchups to be relative
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys offensive line, and how does the Cowboys
Speaker 2: have the Cowboys ranked there? Like how they match up
Speaker 2: against Quinn Williams.
Speaker 3: Well, the Quinn Williams is problematic because the tackles you
Speaker 3: played last week were really heavy, just base kind of
Speaker 3: defensive tackles. You know, they're straight ahead players. There's not
Speaker 3: a lot of movement to him. It's more power than
Speaker 3: it is movement. Quentin Williams is the opposite that he
Speaker 3: is a big guy, but he also has the ability
Speaker 3: to play small. And when I mean play small is
Speaker 3: they play that wide technique. I talked about it in
Speaker 3: the breakdown. They call it a wide nine because of
Speaker 3: how the gaps are, you know, within their their ability.
Speaker 3: And they like to slant, they like to twist, they
Speaker 3: like to attack the shoulder. That's gonna be the issues
Speaker 3: that when they spread you out like that, they create
Speaker 3: space as well, you know, with the with the with
Speaker 3: the offensive line. And then so what you have to
Speaker 3: do is you have to be ready for like a
Speaker 3: Quinn Williams going up playing on your shoulder and just
Speaker 3: getting upfielders and just taking the gap and then he'll
Speaker 3: go upfield and then work back to the ball real quick.
Speaker 3: So you've got to be ready to get over to
Speaker 3: slide over. Zach Martin could be super comfortable. We've seen
Speaker 3: Zach Martin do this a hundred times. Jam with his
Speaker 3: right hand and then it sets the guy and then
Speaker 3: he jams in his left hand. That allows his body
Speaker 3: to get in place. We'll see if a Dooga can
Speaker 3: be that guy Adoga. He's got to play with his hands.
Speaker 3: Hands and feet have to work against Quinn Williams. If
Speaker 3: you don't have hands and feet, he's going to beat
Speaker 3: you to the corner. He's gonna work your shoulder, and
Speaker 3: then he's going to be in the backfield.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything he said, period, everything he said because Quinn
Speaker 6: Williams is in fact more athletic than the defensive tackles
Speaker 6: that they went up against in New York with the Giants.
Speaker 6: So yeah, when you talk about the likelihood that Tyler
Speaker 6: Smith won't be on the field too many, Doga, it's
Speaker 6: gonna be another big test for you, but a different
Speaker 6: type of test.
Speaker 3: That's the point is, don't I don't waste last week?
Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah, because that played right into a Doga's hands.
Speaker 3: When you watched him play, he could just sit down,
Speaker 3: sit down, play with power. This ain't that I don't
Speaker 3: waste Quinn Williams reps on Zach Martin. If I'm the Jets,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, Every time that Quinn Williams is
Speaker 3: in there, he's going against the doga agreed. I'm just
Speaker 3: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. But Dallas has to take advantage
Speaker 3: of that too. The problem is on the other side,
Speaker 3: Quentin Jefferson's a pretty good player next to him, so
Speaker 3: you got to make sure. But you know, if you're
Speaker 3: Zach Martin, Zach Martin should be able to handle Quentin Jefferson.
Speaker 3: But on the other side, like I say, I am not,
Speaker 3: I am not putting any Quinn Williams reps on Martin
Speaker 3: because that's a wash right there.
Speaker 6: And you probably have to at some point, at several
Speaker 6: points in the game, you'll probably we see running backs
Speaker 6: helping on Quinn Williams as far as on that side
Speaker 6: of the ball, trying to you know, slow him down
Speaker 6: to give deck some some time. But speaking of time,
Speaker 6: the fact that Dak Prescott had the quickest trigger in
Speaker 6: the league last week two point one one seconds from
Speaker 6: receipt to release, that bodes well for the Cowboys. And
Speaker 6: you know, we asked deck about it yesterday and he
Speaker 6: just kind of smiled and he was like, Texas Coast,
Speaker 6: that's awesome, right.
Speaker 3: That's the offense.
Speaker 6: So that one way that the Cowboys are going trying
Speaker 6: to neutralize Quinn Williams and just the defensive line of
Speaker 6: the New York Jets is to get the ball out
Speaker 6: as quickly as possible.
Speaker 3: Well, you're also in a situation too that we two
Speaker 3: ricky corners with the Giants last week. You took advantage
Speaker 3: of guys and Billy were inexperienced. The ball coming out
Speaker 3: quick is a great thing. These corners drive really well
Speaker 3: on the ball you got. And like I said earlier,
Speaker 3: you've got to be sure if you're going to throw
Speaker 3: the ball. There's no hesitation. You got to you gotta
Speaker 3: read it and let it fly, because if you hesitate
Speaker 3: for a second, you're going to allow these receivers to
Speaker 3: I mean give me these these corners to play the
Speaker 3: ball either over the shoulder, around the back, driving in
Speaker 3: front of it. You've got to make sure that if
Speaker 3: you're going to throw this thing quick, be sure about it,
Speaker 3: be accurate about it.
Speaker 6: And that puts the onus and perfectly say, and that
Speaker 6: puts the onus on the opposite side of that as well.
Speaker 6: These receivers have to make sure that they get their timing,
Speaker 6: that they hit their spots, because if Dak sees it,
Speaker 6: he's throwing it. If he does what Brian says, that
Speaker 6: ball is coming and you better be there again.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the problem that Dak had with interceptions last year.
Speaker 3: It weren't there were times where where Lamb didn't get inside.
Speaker 3: There's times when Shultz didn't get inside because there was
Speaker 3: hesitation of where the coverages were being played. You know,
Speaker 3: guys jam them on the line, they don't get off
Speaker 3: the line, they're kind of off balance, and now the
Speaker 3: ball's in the air and now you're dealing with problems.
Speaker 7: It's funny how our mood has changed, how differently it
Speaker 7: has changed when mentioning Chuma's name in a matchup compared
Speaker 7: to last week. Had this been we would have been well,
Speaker 7: it's not funny. It's good. It's good that you would
Speaker 7: have been saying, oh, no, we're screwed. You would have
Speaker 7: been saying that, Brian. But it's it's good to hear
Speaker 7: that he's showed and was able to do something progression
Speaker 7: compared to what we saw the trading Kevin. Then now
Speaker 7: we're talking about matchups like this where you can actually compete.
Speaker 3: When he plays in space, he's not as good a
Speaker 3: player when you watch him play tackle. That's not his cup.
Speaker 2: Put he said, you think he's a guard.
Speaker 3: Put him in that phone booth. Yeah, put him in
Speaker 3: that phone booth and let him block. That's you know,
Speaker 3: that's how you got to work it.
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Speaker 2: Amber that she calls who's behind that voice?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so winner and loser gets to take a shot.
Speaker 7: You guys got tequila, Brian got bourbon. Freak your Friday,
Speaker 7: hashtag freak your Friday. No, but in this game, we're
Speaker 7: gonna we're gonna listen to a voice, a player's voice,
Speaker 7: and it's gonna be muffled, and you guys are gonna
Speaker 7: have to guess who it was. Patrick, you go last,
Speaker 7: because you're usually more inside the locker room. And then
Speaker 7: we'll listen and see the video of the player responding
Speaker 7: to something else, and then we'll discuss. All right, so
Speaker 7: let's go. Chris is gonna be working pretty hard back there,
Speaker 7: so go ahead.
Speaker 2: Chris.
Speaker 9: Really not much to say about it. It's just what's
Speaker 9: the dog see field. We turned the tape on from
Speaker 9: the top to the bottom, from the top to the bottom,
Speaker 9: we got guys, let's go get out the.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 3: I was in the locker room for that one, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I was not, So I'm gonna guess that's Dix.
Speaker 7: That's a good guess.
Speaker 3: But it's not Dicks.
Speaker 2: It's not who is it Jaron Curse?
Speaker 7: It's let's see the clip plight, Chris.
Speaker 14: You know, we we just we just got guys that
Speaker 14: get that gets after and uh he was shot out
Speaker 14: to my young bull. Uh, Marquise Bell. I am proud
Speaker 14: of him, proud of him. You know, we we just
Speaker 14: we just got guys that get that gets after and
Speaker 14: uh he was signed out to my young bull.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 7: All right, and it is Jaron Curse. So points for
Speaker 7: you too. Wanted to talk about Marquise, Mrquise Bell. He's
Speaker 7: the guy that we haven't really talked a whole lot
Speaker 7: about him that before. He was kind of that guy
Speaker 7: that was kind of on the line is he gonna
Speaker 7: be good enough? Is he not? And he's gotting to
Speaker 7: the point where he's showing some things to the point
Speaker 7: where you get a guy like Curse calling specifically his
Speaker 7: name out after a win, a big win in the
Speaker 7: first week. So Brian, I'll start with you and your
Speaker 7: thoughts of the progression and what Belle has shown.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and quickly, I know, because this game is
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. The thing I really like about
Speaker 3: Bell is that he showed up in training camp, he
Speaker 3: showed up in the in the preseason games, and he's
Speaker 3: carried it over to the games. The game does not
Speaker 3: look too big for him. He fits in a lot
Speaker 3: of different roles. He's a physical player, he's a finisher.
Speaker 3: I love what dan Quinn's been able to do with
Speaker 3: him that physical nature, but he's able to play with.
Speaker 6: And in love with Marquis Bell. He's doing did in
Speaker 6: training camp, did in preseason. Like Brian said, it's rolling
Speaker 6: over to the regular season. But even more impressive is
Speaker 6: the fact that, I mean, for the most part, for
Speaker 6: what we saw in week one, he's being thrown into
Speaker 6: what we can call the overshown package, and he was
Speaker 6: thrown into that in a fairly short order. And now
Speaker 6: he's on the road in the rain, flying all over
Speaker 6: the place, leading the team in tackles. I mean, just
Speaker 6: a fantastic story for for a guy out of an
Speaker 6: HBCU when the narrative is that those kinds of players
Speaker 6: don't come out of HBCU. So I talked to Marquise
Speaker 6: a couple of days ago into the locker room, and
Speaker 6: I asked him, you know what is his mindset as
Speaker 6: far as keeping this going, and he was like keeping
Speaker 6: in mind before the game, he was like he was
Speaker 6: going willing to do anything and everything that Cowboys wanted
Speaker 6: him to do. He showed that. So I said, hey,
Speaker 6: fantastic game. How do you build on that? And he said, Hey,
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, it's just me playing football.
Speaker 6: I love that mindset, that that's the dog that jy Ron.
Speaker 3: Is talking about.
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I feel bad for feeling
Speaker 2: like this, but I can't help after watching that game, think, man,
Speaker 2: I really wanted to see the Marveian overshown in that role.
Speaker 2: I think he would have. Well, the reason why I
Speaker 2: feel bad is because I feel like itinishes. It diminishes
Speaker 2: what Marquis was able to do. It diminishes what Wanye
Speaker 2: was able to do. Like they both played really great
Speaker 2: games and they helped this defense, and so I don't
Speaker 2: want to take away from them, but that still is
Speaker 2: in the back of my mind, Like I really wish
Speaker 2: I could have seen hook them. I really wish I
Speaker 2: could have seen over shown this year in that role
Speaker 2: because I think he could have been outstanding in that role.
Speaker 5: I think both things are true.
Speaker 6: I mean, we can be very impressed as we are
Speaker 6: with what one Yea and Marquis were able to do,
Speaker 6: and still kind of wish we were able to see
Speaker 6: this year what overshown would have done, because I mean,
Speaker 6: he just lit training camp on fire. But we'll see
Speaker 6: him in the year two and that I am really
Speaker 6: looking forward to.
Speaker 7: All right, let's listen to the second audio.
Speaker 9: That's for y'all the right. You know, the only thing
Speaker 9: we do is go out there and play the game,
Speaker 9: you know, So if y'all feel like the statement was made,
Speaker 9: going to put that on you know, the front, big letters,
Speaker 9: you know, bowl letters, you know. But I definitely feel
Speaker 9: like we did our job, you know, to the maximum
Speaker 9: of our ability, and I feel like we can still
Speaker 9: learn to get better from him.
Speaker 3: You hear that is yeah. I have to guess.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought you're going around the mall, she said,
Speaker 2: she doesn't one us guess.
Speaker 3: It was Marcus. I was thinking him or Hankins. It's
Speaker 3: kind of a Hankins kind.
Speaker 8: Of a.
Speaker 2: I could see that, but no, he was. He was
Speaker 2: definitely like, I like the part where we said put
Speaker 2: it in big let.
Speaker 7: Let's see the video.
Speaker 14: Game we're gonna make sure, you know, we get back
Speaker 14: in clean up our mistakes.
Speaker 2: Oops.
Speaker 7: I don't know what happened with the clip, but basically
Speaker 7: he's saying, we're gonna go out there and not have
Speaker 7: it big. We're not gonna get a big head. So
Speaker 7: back to what we were talking about a couple of
Speaker 7: days ago, it's good to get veteran guys leaders like him,
Speaker 7: kind of keeping yourself grounded and knowing. Let's move on
Speaker 7: to the next opponent. All right, let's listen to the
Speaker 7: next audio.
Speaker 9: You asked me. You're telling him you asked me, I
Speaker 9: feel like we're just gonna continue to put it on
Speaker 9: display every week and we're gonna let scharge this.
Speaker 7: I think I know who that is, Derek, So you're
Speaker 7: thinking it was.
Speaker 2: One of the defensive guys. I'm trying to remember who
Speaker 2: that was.
Speaker 3: I remember the quote, was it Osa?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 7: I think that might have been secondary.
Speaker 6: I guess I think I know who it is, Malie Cooker,
Speaker 6: go ahead, it'son.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was not thinking him.
Speaker 14: Watch you asked me, are the best cornerback?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 14: I feel like we're just going to continue to put
Speaker 14: it on display every weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was next question, actually, Nick, Nick Harris, Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I remember that.
Speaker 7: Do you guys feel that they are becoming him with
Speaker 7: the combination of Gilmour becoming the best cornerback duel in
Speaker 7: the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, huge upgrade over and nothing against Anthony Brown, but
Speaker 3: a huge upgrade over what they've done there. They've done
Speaker 3: it with the pass rush and then the ability for
Speaker 3: both their corners and cover as well as they do
Speaker 3: and kick Bland in there as well. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of personal directors around the league that would love
Speaker 3: to have this secondary.
Speaker 6: I said coming into the season, and I was not
Speaker 6: shy about it, because I'm not shy about anything. I
Speaker 6: said that this duo was the best duo in the league,
Speaker 6: and you know, some people kind of push back on
Speaker 6: Twitter and they were like, well, what about in Miami
Speaker 6: exhaving Howard Jayleen Ramsey. Then, of course Jaylen Ramsey gets
Speaker 6: injured in August has to deal with that. But I
Speaker 6: feel like as elite as Jalen Ramsey is, I wonder
Speaker 6: if he's on the back end of his career, whereas
Speaker 6: if you look at what Stefan Gilmore, for example, did
Speaker 6: in Week one against the Giants, I still think he's
Speaker 6: right there in that window of prime. And then of
Speaker 6: course you know for a fact, Trevon Diggs is still prime.
Speaker 6: Deron Bland hasn't even reached prime for him yet, and
Speaker 6: he's already at elite status. So even if you removed
Speaker 6: Duran from it, I think that that duo, this duo
Speaker 6: here is in fact the best in the league.
Speaker 2: I'll even take it a step further. I agree with
Speaker 2: all that, and I would really focus in on the
Speaker 2: point of they are the best threesome in the league.
Speaker 3: Like I don't think it's close.
Speaker 2: If you start seeing the top three, if you can
Speaker 2: look at everybody's top three, and if you want to
Speaker 2: just get really crazy, George, you want to do the
Speaker 2: top four.
Speaker 3: I think when you look.
Speaker 2: At this secondary between the cornerbacks and the safeties, not
Speaker 2: only are they good, they're good and they're deep.
Speaker 3: They're extremely deep.
Speaker 2: And so that's the part to me, that's that's even
Speaker 2: more important to saying that the best duo in the league.
Speaker 2: This secondary is really good and they're very deep, and
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody that's close to them when
Speaker 2: you look at the nets.
Speaker 6: Digs in the locker room had a kind of side
Speaker 6: exclusive talk with him, and I said, what's what's what
Speaker 6: do you think your message would be to those that
Speaker 6: saw that game as far as secondary your ability to tackle,
Speaker 6: killing that narrative and everything. He said, don't throw the ball.
Speaker 6: All right there it is, keep tackling.
Speaker 7: Can we do this last one? It relates to the
Speaker 7: game this weekend? So let's listen to the final audio.
Speaker 8: No, they're d line. I think that's the hardened team
Speaker 8: out there, all four guys up front, and then then
Speaker 8: we got depth to so I mean, it's gonna be
Speaker 8: a good challenge for us, but man, we're up for it.
Speaker 8: So I mean they gotta they gotta go through us too.
Speaker 2: So I think I know what that is.
Speaker 5: I do what is tip of the tongue?
Speaker 2: I think it's Terrence Steele?
Speaker 3: Is it? That's got it? Yeah, Terrence Steele.
Speaker 7: Let's watch the clip.
Speaker 3: When Yeah, that was him. I was smith.
Speaker 8: Did they come from the same similar families of coaching
Speaker 8: and stuff?
Speaker 7: So basically he's talking about the similarities between the defense
Speaker 7: that the Jets they have now versus the one they
Speaker 7: face with the forty nine ers. So I wanted to
Speaker 7: kind of bring back into the discussion as to what
Speaker 7: are those similarities where now you're talking about every player
Speaker 7: here in the locker room mentioning this defense that is
Speaker 7: being compared to the ones that the forty nine ers have,
Speaker 7: and we know of that BENI has been clearly a
Speaker 7: struggle for the Catwoys.
Speaker 3: I think there's step below defensively in the front seven
Speaker 3: of what the forty nine ers do. I think there's
Speaker 3: I think the linebackers the Jets are good. I think
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers linebackers are really good. I think
Speaker 3: the power which the forty nine ers play up front,
Speaker 3: I think they physically beat you up. I think the
Speaker 3: Jets are more of a try and move and get
Speaker 3: to the ball as where the forty nine ers are
Speaker 3: going to go through you to get to the ball.
Speaker 2: And I actually think the Jets have a better secondary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a better secondary.
Speaker 6: I think if you look at the linebacker unit, I
Speaker 6: think you could argue that it's a wash. But because
Speaker 6: you're talking about a guy like Fred Warner and I
Speaker 6: take them all day long, but you could argue that
Speaker 6: that's at least close to a wash. I'd give the
Speaker 6: edge on the defensive line to the San Francisco forty
Speaker 6: nine ers, but the edge and the secondary goes to
Speaker 6: the New York Jets.
Speaker 7: Well, that is definitely went away over time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that one.
Speaker 7: I had a couple more, but that's okay. It's funny
Speaker 7: how the Jets have made a name for them themselves
Speaker 7: and we're no longer kind of dismissing that team. Go
Speaker 7: ahead and there, let's get into prediction.
Speaker 2: All right, what we got. You guys got to tell
Speaker 2: me what you think is going to happen this weekend.
Speaker 2: Give me the prediction and the score.
Speaker 5: Brian, let's start.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the Cowboys. I think this is gonna
Speaker 3: Last week I picked a close game. I still think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a close game. I think defensively, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be hard for the Jets to, you know, to
Speaker 3: to I think there's gonna be some times where you're
Speaker 3: gonna get stopped along the way. Offensively, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: with the Cowboys are gonna win this one twenty four
Speaker 3: to sixteen.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 6: I want to see scary hours again from the defense,
Speaker 6: and that's why I'm wearing my Friday the thirteenth cap.
Speaker 6: I want Jason Voyhes, Freddy Krueger Chucky. I want, I
Speaker 6: want everybody I want. I want it to be a
Speaker 6: horror movie for Zach Wilson, and I believe that it
Speaker 6: can be to that point. I don't know that the
Speaker 6: Jets offense can get going. I think the Cowboys do
Speaker 6: a very effective job at bottling up Breis Hall and
Speaker 6: Dalvin Cook, and everything just falls into place from there. Offensively,
Speaker 6: I do believe that they're going to get more on
Speaker 6: track as far as being the meat of what happens
Speaker 6: on the scoreboard for the Cowboys. So I'm going I
Speaker 6: don't think it'll be as close as many think. I'm
Speaker 6: going twenty four for the Cowboys. They're still going to
Speaker 6: have some challenges going against their defense, but I think
Speaker 6: the Cowboys defense shuts down Zach Wilson to the tune
Speaker 6: of six. I think then we get two field goals.
Speaker 6: So twenty four to six Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Oh, mine was kind of close. I'll be great. I
Speaker 7: think Cowboys win twenty nine nine, No, twenty seven nine, Yeah,
Speaker 7: twenty seven to nine Cowboys, all right?
Speaker 2: And I also think the Cowboys win. I think it's
Speaker 2: a low scoring game for the Jets. I also don't
Speaker 2: think it's a big scoring game. For the Cowboys. I
Speaker 2: think it's a defensive battle. Cowboys win seventeen to six
Speaker 2: in a otherwise pedestrian game. You move on to the
Speaker 2: next week real quick, though. We do have our pot picks.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, guys, who do you think
Speaker 2: will be the first receiving touchdown? Who catch the first
Speaker 2: receiving touchdown for the Cowboys this weekend?
Speaker 6: I'm going ceedee Lamb, all right, I think you know,
Speaker 6: And we don't know if Cooks is going to play.
Speaker 6: We're optimistic that he will play. But even if Cooks
Speaker 6: does play, I think it's going to be CD.
Speaker 3: Lamb, I'm gonna go with Jason. With Ferguson, yeah.
Speaker 6: We always think alike every time with Ferguson last week
Speaker 6: and he dropped.
Speaker 3: I don't want to jink and I know I was.
Speaker 7: Tight end. Is so easy to choose for a guy
Speaker 7: like Dak, you know, but man, I don't want to
Speaker 7: choose Ferguson again. But let's just call it. I have
Speaker 7: to give you a name.
Speaker 2: Huh, Yeah, gotta give you an.
Speaker 7: You're choosing Ferguson to I don't want to choose the same.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's not a bad one.
Speaker 7: It's not but I don't feel it, so.
Speaker 2: Just you can go Ferguson.
Speaker 7: Let's giveau.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get Ferguson for the two of us. All Right,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. Jumps back next week we'll let
Speaker 2: you know what right and wrong for the Cowboys. Till then,
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