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Speaker 1: staff writers for How Stuff Works dot Com. What's up, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: the dynamic duo. That's exactly right, yuch right, that's us, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: I was reading the other day, as I do once

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Speaker 1: in a while, I try to keep the brain going. UM,

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Speaker 1: and I came across a really sad article. It turns out, Um,

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Speaker 1: July one will forever live as a day of infamy. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean your birthday, July July fifteenth. This is my birthday,

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Speaker 1: July first, two thousand and eight. Um was ay when

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Speaker 1: two great underground pop culture icons were killed and one

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Speaker 1: fell swoop. Have you ever heard of a guy named

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Speaker 1: Ron English? No, I don't know Ron. Now I think

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Speaker 1: there's a coach out there, college football coach defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: named Ron English. This is not the one I'm talking about, Okay.

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Speaker 1: This guy, um is this dude who is considered the

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Speaker 1: father of agit pop art. It's like pop art, like

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Speaker 1: think Warhol, but with like a social or political message

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Speaker 1: behind it. This guy created like EMC supersized with his

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Speaker 1: this gangster parody of Ronald McDonald. I think he did.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the one where he merged Obama's face

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Speaker 1: he's he's this real Uh, he's underground, he's really um.

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Speaker 1: He kind of hijacks uh the sides of buildings. He's

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Speaker 1: not supposed to, and he's just kind of creating controversy,

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Speaker 1: public protests, slash pop art. Yes. Uh, he actually accepted

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Speaker 1: money from the Ray Band company to create a building

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Speaker 1: rap of this work of art, and then Ray Band

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Speaker 1: proceeded to pay a smart mob. A group of people

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Speaker 1: So in the in one fell swoop RayBan basically killed

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Speaker 1: or at the very least totally co opted ron English

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Speaker 1: and smart mobs, which is is really sad because you know,

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Speaker 1: be dispersed by the Delta Force at the Battle of Seattle.

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Speaker 1: So I love marketing people. I love them because you know,

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Speaker 1: they're They're definitely not the uh the apocalyptic horse people

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Speaker 1: of the end of an underground trend, ever are there?

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Speaker 1: And no, and and far be it from them to

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Speaker 1: they keep it going. So yeah, money, root of all

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Speaker 1: evil and end of all underground culture. But um, that

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Speaker 1: the the protest at the World Trade Organization summit and

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Speaker 1: I think ninety nine in Seattle. We should probably tell

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Speaker 1: it's not something that most people don't know about these Well,

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Speaker 1: to the twenty one Century, and he wrote a smart

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Speaker 1: and he's this futurist he UM. He's one to definitely

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Speaker 1: it was vital that smart mobs exist, or else it

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Speaker 1: The way that they were intended to, and out of

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Speaker 1: It's like in our burros, a snake eating its own tail,

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