WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ 2018 NFL Combine - Day 1 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:09.120 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.240 on ther war Room for insider news and draft analysis 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.759 from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at Valley Ranch. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:22.160 The Dallas Cowboys is elect and now your hosts, Dane Brugler, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:27.360 David Hellman, and Brian brought us well as promised. We 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.280 did tell you we were going to come to Indianapolis, 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.720 and we all made it so happy to be here 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:38.120 in the Indiana Convention Center here in Indianapolis, Indiana for 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.040 the Combine twenty eighteen. As the Big Boys guy said, 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:46.440 Brian brought us Buddy's Scout Buddies, Dane Brugler, David Hellman, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.120 Day one of the NFL Combine. As far as really 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.840 kind of getting into coach talk general manager talk is 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.320 Dan Bruger would say, the season of lying has begun. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.720 It has, but learn some things today. Listen to some 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:09.839 guys talk Jason Garrett. Really more questions about the team, David, 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.520 other than really some draft Yeah. I was gonna say, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.600 you know, I always solicit questions for Twitter on the 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.880 twenty and right, which understandably it's the Draft show. But 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.399 we're getting a lot of questions about like who who 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.920 impressed today and who had the best draw. Well, we 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.600 haven't really gotten that far yet. I haven't got that 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.520 far yet, but we've got some measurements we'll talk about. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.360 We will talk about that GM Coach Day more so 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:36.960 than prospect Day. So a little bit anticlimactic in terms 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.520 of the draft because we're dealing with personnel and coaching 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.520 and all that type of stuff, and the real good 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.520 stuff with the prospects doesn't really start till tomorrow. But yeah, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.720 now that there's nothing to talk about, Yeah, but I 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.000 want to, I want to kind of go if I 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.840 could dange real quick. Yesterday Dave kind of in a 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:57.120 little summary if you could. Stephen Jones did address some 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:02.360 draft questions about you know, one techniques and stuff like that. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.040 There's one particular that really upset our demographic sure in 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.440 terms of people that want to listen to a draft podcast, 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.880 which Stephen Jones was asked about the one technique, you know, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.800 the nose tackle position, and people kind of got in 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.840 a tizzy about his answer, which he said, you know, 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.119 he said, we probably wouldn't spend a first round pick 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.240 on a true nose. They just don't value that. You know, 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.800 he's not on the field enough. He doesn't disrupt the 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.720 passer enough to merit that. And so he said, if 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.440 they were going to spend a first round pick on 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.720 a defensive tackle, he would at least need to have 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.120 some three technique traits. Yeah, I have some under undertackle traits. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:43.440 And kind of everybody's thought about is immediately, Dane Brugler, 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:49.600 does Vita Vea have three technique under tackle traits? He does, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.639 And that's why we're not ruling out. You can't rule 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.960 out Vitavea at nineteen. I don't know if they I'm 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.480 not saying they would take him if he's there. Let 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.919 me tell you, yeah, let me let me tell you 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.200 this though, And what's your saying? And I'm really happy 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.520 you you said what you said. I reached out to 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.320 several guys within the organization. I said, can I eliminate 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:13.120 vitave after what Stephen Jones said? And they said, absolutely not. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:18.040 Vita Vea does have three technique under tackle traits. So, uh, 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.360 you know, to immediately say that he would not be 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.720 in the mix, you know, and you're in You're right, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.280 if they would, would they take him? Would they not 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.160 take him? Right? You know? But he does have the traits, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.680 which I get, and you know, I apologize if I 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.639 sounded condescending, but people were kind of freaking out yesterday, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.640 like Steven Jones dropped this bombshell, which I really I 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.800 don't think that's true because uh, Dron Payne and Vita 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.000 Vea both I think probably fit in that category of 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.839 their one techniques, but they have some three technique traits. Yeah, 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.960 you don't have to necessarily take them off the field 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.920 on third down or passing down, right, Yeah, I do. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:57.200 I really think the Cowboys would draft a defensive tackle nineteenth. Overall, 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.040 I don't like if you put a gun to my head, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.640 I would say no. But nothing Steven Jones said leads 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.320 me to believe that you just have to rule those 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.680 guys out because it's it's realistic that by the time 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.240 pick nineteen gets there, the best player on the board 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.560 that think's gonna look like a turkey on thanks picked apart, right, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.960 I think it's gonna be skin and bones. So at nineteen, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.240 the best player available might be say it is Vita Vea, 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.760 And you know, I even Isaiah Wynn is gone at 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.480 that point, he might be the best player available. And 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.359 I don't think you can rule him out even you know, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.960 regardless of what Steven said, Yeah, I just think that 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.160 I thought that a lot of people went into in colboindation, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.400 went into panic mode. If okay, does this mean they're 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.320 eliminating one take? Steven Jones gave me the reason why 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.359 he probably wouldn't take a one technique, But in reaching 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.240 out to some folks and then the expert scout here 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.200 to my left, you know he's seen he's seen three techniques. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:59.240 I've seen three technique traits in the player. Yeah, are 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.840 all the one to techniques that way? No, not all, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.480 not all of ore. But but I'll tell you what, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.120 there's several though that we've seen that have played that 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.240 three technique or it played a one moved in you know, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.840 to outside shoulder and attack gaps and stuff like that. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.080 So you know what I'm thinking, Which you know, it's 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.640 it's hard to get follow up questions in a setting 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.520 like that. I mean, you know, if you if you 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.600 didn't see it. Stephen Jones was talking to about twenty reporters, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.839 all of whom have their own list of questions they're 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.720 trying to get answered, right, But it would have been 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.120 nice to ask Stephen all right, well, what's your threshold 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.360 for just taking a one technique? That's all he does? 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.799 You know, Like, at what round are you more amenable 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.840 to doing that? I don't know the answer to it, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.040 but it's clearly not the first I would guess it's 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.159 probably not the second either. Yeah, I just think the 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.920 list is too good though. Yeah, we keep talking about those, 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.760 but you know, we talk about the guys and you know, 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.120 I keep looking it at my list of guys, you know, 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:05.640 with Sanat and Phil and you know those guys Settle, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.919 you know, our guy from our guy from uh Connecticut. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.760 Uh see, I'll get that name right one of these days. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.359 But yeah, I think that uh you know, I feel 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.839 like though that to me, it's a it's a situation 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:27.599 where uh, you know again what Stephen Jones said, you know, yeah, 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.480 you take it and you process it. But the fact 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.080 that a guy that we clearly you have thought about, 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.640 you know, that has been mocked to the Dallas Cowboys 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.719 does have those traits. So that's a that's a positive 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.279 thing right now, uh, David, anything else though, did you 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.599 get the sense though they have not talked about the 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.760 Byron Jones moving to corner officially? I know people with 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.720 Stephen Jones was asked about that, and you know, that 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.840 kind of brings us into maybe, okay, if he does go, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.160 are you looking at safety now? I mean, I'll tell 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.480 you they've definitely talked about it. You can tell by 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.560 the detail and the answer that they've talked about it. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.800 I don't to hear it from Stephen Jones. It doesn't 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.160 sound like he's one hundred percent committed to doing that, right, 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.600 But it's I think it's kind of like a writing 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.640 on the wall thing, Like my my gut tells me 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.480 that that's something that they're leaning toward doing. But it 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.200 doesn't sound like they've made that decision by any stretch, 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.320 but it is. You know, it's something that comes up 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.360 because all of a sudden you find yourself talking about safety, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.280 and Stephen says, well, if we do decide to do 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.360 that and move him down, then safety sure his heck 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.200 looks like a need for this team, which you know 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.760 we've talked about already. Right, You've got you've basically got 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.080 three safeties on this team, uh, two of which don't 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:44.400 have a ton of experience. I don't think they I'm 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.480 glad you brought that up. I forgot to mention that stee. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.440 I mean, it is it's rare to just hear, you know, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.520 somebody like a Stephen Jones come out and say like, yeah, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.320 we like Cheetah Moore as a corner than we do 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.360 as a safety. Right, We're not sure we really want 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.760 to move him, which, like to me, I'm celebrating that. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.880 I don't think he needs to go anywhere, and this 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:05.240 isn't the best safety class prospects, so I don't maybe 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.600 they look it's kind of it's kind of like, in 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.679 my opinion, you look at James from Florida State, Golden 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:16.360 from Tennessee, and now let's hope where somebody there's you know, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.320 maybe a couple other guys there that you kind of like, 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.000 but not as much as those two. If you're telling 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.640 me there's my two different rounds too, Yeah, you're not 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.800 talking went to my first round guy and potentially a 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.400 second round guy and maybe a guy that in Golden 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.720 it might not even get the fifty rights. I mean, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.920 if you're gonna sit there and move Byron Jones and think, okay, 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.040 we'll just draft to safety, you know, then they and 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.040 the heck they you know, they might like Harrison from 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.440 Alabama they might like Bates, you know, from Wake Forest. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.679 You know, they might like Watts from Texas A and M, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.240 which I know that obviously. I know this is the 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.800 draft show. But that's and to bring it all the 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.880 way back now, you'd like to trade, wouldn't you? Well, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.680 all right, I wasn't even gonna go there, O spare 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.960 me your earl Thomas talk, because I don't even know 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.480 what to do with it right now. I don't know. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.600 I know they're gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave it 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:09.720 hanging out there as like this imaginary dangling at dangling fruit. Yeah. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.080 But well, and and Steven, you know, just to round 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.720 it out, Steven also brought up left guard. He said, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.720 we did, We've got we've got four really good offensive linemen. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.360 We need a fifth. We don't know where we're getting 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.320 him from. And that's the same thing. And we've talked 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.200 about it before. The Cowboys, you know, they they like 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.640 to cover their bases in free agency before you get 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.000 to the draft, which is why I think, you know, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.520 that's why you got to look at left guard as 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.439 a free agency option. And if Byron Jones does move 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.480 to corner, you probably got to look at safety as 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.640 a free eye agency option. I mean, right in this 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.240 crazy dream world, maybe you trade for Earl Thomas or 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.760 I mean they went and got Robert Blanton last year. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.280 It could be something that simple. But I think those 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.600 are two positions where I think in free agency they 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.600 got to take a look and just make sure that 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.120 they've got a body before they worry about the draft. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.640 You would you would go ahead? And would you? Uh? 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:00.800 Would you in a trade back situation? Then if you 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.960 knew you needed a safety and you and and say 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.640 James is off the board, you feel comfortable going in 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.839 drafting Golden in the first round at the bottom of 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.800 the first round at twenty seven, I don't. I mean 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.160 I had to be wiped out. I think, uh, because 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.120 my first draft board I had Golden like at forty 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.000 six overall in right, right, so that's a that's like 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.559 mid second round. It's not even early second round, right, Um, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.720 Ronnie Harrison is he still available from Alabama? Yeah? Because 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.680 I think that'd be an option. And see, do you like? 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.960 You like Harrison then better than Golden? They're different, they're different. Yeah, well, yeah, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.760 Harrison's more of a downhill guy. Golden's I feel better 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.480 in cover the description I gave to you and I 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.040 were talking about Who's what is golden? Golden is Malcolm 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.360 Jenkins to me? Yeah, And I think that's a very 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.200 very good companion. Sure, he's just a He's just a 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.880 Pro Bowl veteran leader, super Bowl champion. In terms of 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.959 describe describe the player, though, what what? What's the player? 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.280 What could the player do? Player plays in the slot, 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:02.480 player player tackles well, player could play in coverage? Long? Yeah, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.520 I'm just saying, if you want, everybody out there wants 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.600 a comparison to a guy, I know, here's a what 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.760 was Jenkins win in college? He was a corner. They 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.959 made a safety. He actually he started as a slot corner. Yeah, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.280 what does this guy do? He plays slot corner. I mean, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.559 you know you're talking about that kind of role. Yeah, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.960 I think Malcolm Jenkins that makes sense. But what does 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.440 this team need? Is that? Is that what this team needs? Well? 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.599 If you move Byron Jones, who's gonna started saying, I 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:35.719 mean you talk about Woods, right, you know, Frazier and that. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.400 You know, I just don't think they're moving a Woozier. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.440 I just don't do it either, or do I think 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.440 they should? Yes, I mean you talk about the reasons 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.800 why they would move Byron down. You know, he's big 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.000 and long and physical for a corner. Cheeto fits that 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.520 mold too. Oh sure, they're very Cheeto got hurt. Cheeto 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.600 got hurt playing safety in the Green Bay game. He 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.000 was lined up as a safety when he got hurt. So, yeah, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.040 And one more point from Stephen Jones talking to me. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.839 He came out and not that this is rocket science, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.520 but he was like, it's easier to find a safety 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.360 than a corner. Yeah. If you think a guy can 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:13.160 play corner for you, especially on the outside, why somewhere else. Yeah, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.800 But they've been searching for a corner, I mean a 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:21.080 safety forever. That's easier to find corner. But terms of 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.560 how about players impact players, that's where maybe you're gonna 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.800 get your trade, Dave. Like I said, I don't even 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.080 know what to do with that. I don't even know 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.000 how to begin it out there. Again, it's not something 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.720 that you want to know absolutely, but maybe that's their plan. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.240 I mean it's again, you're gonna have to pay the guy. Yeah, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.840 it's gonna come down to that. You at least go 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.720 down that road and see what's possible. You know you 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.600 you explore every avenue, and that's why I don't think 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.480 like there's a lot of chatter I've heard from teams 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.360 that want the draft and then free agency. But the 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.840 way things are set up, the draft is the last 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.920 part of the off season really in terms of player acquisition, 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.880 So free agency comes first. Some of these trades will 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.680 come first, the franchise tack all the tags, everything comes 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.880 before the draft. So I think it like what Dave 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.839 said earlier about filling your needs through free agency. Good 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.400 chance we see him do that, or a trade or whatever, 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.840 and they go in the draft without that clear number 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.160 one need. If they move on from Dez Bryant, this 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.840 receiver become a priority oversay some of the other positions. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.440 As you talk about it's already it should already be 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.439 a priority in my mind. And if they I don't 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.760 think they should get rid of Deaz. But if they did, no, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.680 I'm just saying that they did. I mean, again, this 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.520 is just discussion. This is what you mean. Now. Now, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.719 now give me some priority day because I don't think 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.480 we feel as good coming here now that as we 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.600 once did about the Dez Bryant situation. I was pretty 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.040 committed to I don't think anything's going to happen with 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.920 his money and all that. And to be honest with 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.880 you now, I'm I'm kind of nervous about maybe what 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.520 will happen with this deal. I came out last week 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.200 when Stephen Jones talked back in Dallas before we even 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.920 got here, and it, you know, just what he said 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.800 kind of made me start to doubt myself, because, yeah, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.360 you and I have both been saying for a couple 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:03.719 of months that we don't think anything I feel like 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.000 they're gonna doing with the money. If you're trying to 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.240 read the tea leaves, I'm not as confident I still. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.559 I mean, I can't say definitively what's going to happen, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.280 But I'm starting to think more and more that they 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.960 really they might not view it the same way as me, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.120 and they feel comfortable making a move on that. I mean, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.480 it's definitely something you have to consider, which I wonder though, 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.800 because I have a couple of thoughts if you're gonna 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.320 do if you're gonna do something with Dez, which I'm 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.880 thinking get more sooner than later. And Stephen said that too, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.840 he said they're going to have that conversation more sooner 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.200 than later, which okay, let's say they do that. Let's 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.520 say let's say they cut Dez Bryant within the next month. Well, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.800 then that gives you a month to sign a free 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.280 agent to help bolster your receiver corps and then you 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.440 can address it in the draft. So if they if 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.680 they cut Dez, then yes, wide receiver immediately becomes a priority. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.720 But if they do it in a timely fashion, then 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.160 they have time to address it before the draft. Bryce 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.360 Butler interesting to come back then in that role wouldn't roll. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.120 But being like does Briant as a wide receiver role, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.520 he's not an ex NFL in my opinion, I don't know, Yeah, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.360 I don't know how I feel about promoting a guy 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.640 from fifteen catches on the season to my number one. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.920 I mean you as Bryce Butler and yeah, yeah, sure, 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.600 But obviously I'm just asking though, is that is that? 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.480 Is that the way you go mean is that you're 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.400 you said you'd sign a veteran guy? Do you sign 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.120 a guy? You know? I wouldn't view that as doing enough. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.760 I mean, unless I'm just throwing it out there, unless 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:32.920 your hell been that have you seen the receiver free 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.400 agent group by the way, I mean the Robinsons and 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:39.040 guys like that at Robinson. Likely he probably gets tagged 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.840 or something works out with Jackson. I'd be surprised if 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.440 he's not a Jaguar. So I think we rule Alan 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.080 Robinson off. Uh. But yeah, I mean there's there's a 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:51.720 few names. Jordan Matthews from Buffalo. There's there's a few 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.720 names out there, but none that really excite me about. Okay, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.000 if that happens, we're gonna go get this guy. Terrell 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.760 Prior and Marquis guys, if you guys would like to 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.400 sign a veteran band aid then and then draft right, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.120 I don't. I was just trying to say, is that 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:12.160 is Is Butler a veteran band aid? Then not? That's 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.320 one of the the guy. You know, if they tried 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.360 to sell me, I'm not trying to convince this stuff. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.360 I'm just if they tried to sell that to me, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.440 I'm not buying it. You can't convince me that they 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.080 should get rid of does So. I know I'm with 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.080 you on that. And for the record, I'm starting to 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.120 doubt myself, but I still think my idea is the 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.280 best way for it. I'm I'm keeping des for at 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.400 least another year if it's up to me. Oh, I was, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.200 I was dancing right with you on that one, Dave. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:37.920 I didn't think they would do anything different but that. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.560 But the kid, the draft does have some depth in it. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.000 You know, we're gonna see some of these guys, you know, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.640 you know here this week. Uh, you know, it's a 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.520 pretty talented group. Traditionally, wide receiver is the toughest position, 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.800 maybe besides quarterback, to transition from the college ranks to 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.800 the NFL. And so even if I mean, you draft 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:01.720 the most polished receiver in this draft, Calvin Ridley for example, 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.240 it's still gonna be there's gonna be a learning curve, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.080 There's no question. And so to cut does and to 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.680 think you're gonna just replace that production, right, it's unrealistic. Yeah, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.200 I the draft at least, Yeah, I just don't. Again, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.080 I was to the point I didn't see Dez Bryant 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.640 going anywhere. But you know, I mean there's some tough 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.000 talk going on right now, which and you know, Devil's advocate. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.639 You know, I'm thinking of the amount of money they 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.359 have right now, which doesn't seem like a lot. But 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.840 if you cut Dez. The savings that you get from that, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.240 the savings that you could get from some restructures that Smith, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.000 Travis Frederick, those kinds of guys, you could free up 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:41.800 the money necessary to make a good enough signing to 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.919 get you through. You know, and like I'm better than 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.600 a Bryce Butler is what I'm saying. You can't sign 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.200 a much better receiver than that if you took those steps. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:49.840 Whether or not they're gonna do it, I don't know, 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.600 but if Dez isn't in your plans for twenty eighteen, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.680 you gotta do something before the draft even gets here. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.280 I mean, even if you get Calvin Ridley. I don't 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.480 like Calvin Ridley and Terrence Williams is not a better 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.320 duo than Dez being on your team in my opinion. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.480 I agree. I'm sorry ahead, I say, real quick before 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.800 we go next one back to say, if you real quick, 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.840 would you entertain the possibility of trading up for Derwin 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.040 James because I think we all agree he's not gonna 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.920 be there at nineteen. Yes? Yes, So would you give 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.800 up a second round pick to go up to, say ten, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.560 to get Derwin James? Oh crap? So I picked ten 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.760 and then I don't pick again till eighty one. Well, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.280 actually I get Derwin. If we could get could you 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.680 could you? Could you the straight two? The straight two 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.879 would be Miami at eleven. Let's just say you can 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.399 get it done at ten and say that's okay. Ten, Yeah, 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.960 ten gets it done. Pay Back Buffalo, pay back forty 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.760 nine ers or Oakland for doing that to you. So 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:48.600 my secon my secondary in twenty eighteen is Cheeto Lewis, 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:53.440 oh bunch of young cat. Stop smiling, stop smiling, Cheeto Lewis, Scandricker, Brown, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:59.119 Heath and Derwin. But you're you're giving up two pretty 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.239 good players for we give it. What do you think 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.520 is a great player? Yeah, you're giving up potentially you 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.359 go to you go to that that ten pick at 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.800 two and five. I hate, I hate the thought of 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.439 giving up pick fifty. But I really like Derwin James. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.320 I don't know. I'd have to think long and hard 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.640 about it. I think I might do it. I think 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.720 I might do it. I like him a lot and 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.120 answers a lot of defense. Do you do you? Okay, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:21.679 let's look at the teams in ahead of you. If 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.320 you're thinking about Derwin James you know, you talked about 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.200 my recent mock draft that I came out with this week. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.480 I had Derwin going seven seven to Tampa Tampa. Yeah, 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.399 so there's no guarantee he'll be there at ten, especially 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.040 after he shuts down this place with what he does here. Yeah, 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.439 at Indy. See that's and you know you're looking at 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.159 some teams potentially some mind fields, you know, yeah, Washington 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.560 at thirteen. In places like that, you don't bank on it. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.399 But it's more of huh, he's still there at ten. Oh, okay, 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.119 let's let's see if we can get I'm glad to 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.040 see though that you guys have come around to the 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:58.120 go up idea. I don't know, but see, no, no, no, no, 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:59.879 I don't know if we were not we were not. No, 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:01.680 he's dipping his toe in the water. But no, no, 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.879 all Hey, all I knew is that every time I 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.439 talked about going up you two, would you wanted to 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.480 go up for a guard? Yeah? Yeah, I said, I 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.879 don't care best player. I'm trying to go up for 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.240