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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on ther war Room for insider news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at Valley Ranch.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys is elect and now your hosts, Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, and Brian brought us well as promised. We

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Speaker 1: did tell you we were going to come to Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: and we all made it so happy to be here

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Speaker 1: in the Indiana Convention Center here in Indianapolis, Indiana for

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Speaker 1: the Combine twenty eighteen. As the Big Boys guy said,

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Buddy's Scout Buddies, Dane Brugler, David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: Day one of the NFL Combine. As far as really

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Speaker 1: kind of getting into coach talk general manager talk is

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Speaker 1: Dan Bruger would say, the season of lying has begun.

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Speaker 1: It has, but learn some things today. Listen to some

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Speaker 1: guys talk Jason Garrett. Really more questions about the team, David,

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Speaker 1: other than really some draft Yeah. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I always solicit questions for Twitter on the

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Speaker 1: twenty and right, which understandably it's the Draft show. But

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Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of questions about like who who

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Speaker 1: impressed today and who had the best draw. Well, we

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Speaker 1: haven't really gotten that far yet. I haven't got that

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Speaker 1: far yet, but we've got some measurements we'll talk about.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about that GM Coach Day more so

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Speaker 1: than prospect Day. So a little bit anticlimactic in terms

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Speaker 1: of the draft because we're dealing with personnel and coaching

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Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff, and the real good

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Speaker 1: stuff with the prospects doesn't really start till tomorrow. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: now that there's nothing to talk about, Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: want to, I want to kind of go if I

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Speaker 1: could dange real quick. Yesterday Dave kind of in a

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Speaker 1: little summary if you could. Stephen Jones did address some

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Speaker 1: draft questions about you know, one techniques and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: There's one particular that really upset our demographic sure in

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Speaker 1: terms of people that want to listen to a draft podcast,

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Speaker 1: which Stephen Jones was asked about the one technique, you know,

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Speaker 1: the nose tackle position, and people kind of got in

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Speaker 1: a tizzy about his answer, which he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: he said, we probably wouldn't spend a first round pick

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Speaker 1: on a true nose. They just don't value that. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's not on the field enough. He doesn't disrupt the

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Speaker 1: passer enough to merit that. And so he said, if

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Speaker 1: they were going to spend a first round pick on

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, he would at least need to have

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Speaker 1: some three technique traits. Yeah, I have some under undertackle traits.

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Speaker 1: And kind of everybody's thought about is immediately, Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: does Vita Vea have three technique under tackle traits? He does,

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Speaker 1: And that's why we're not ruling out. You can't rule

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Speaker 1: out Vitavea at nineteen. I don't know if they I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they would take him if he's there. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you, yeah, let me let me tell you

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Speaker 1: this though, And what's your saying? And I'm really happy

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Speaker 1: you you said what you said. I reached out to

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Speaker 1: several guys within the organization. I said, can I eliminate

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Speaker 1: vitave after what Stephen Jones said? And they said, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Vita Vea does have three technique under tackle traits. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, to immediately say that he would not be

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Speaker 1: if they would, would they take him? Would they not

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Speaker 1: take him? Right? You know? But he does have the traits,

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Speaker 1: which I get, and you know, I apologize if I

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Speaker 1: sounded condescending, but people were kind of freaking out yesterday,

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Speaker 1: like Steven Jones dropped this bombshell, which I really I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's true because uh, Dron Payne and Vita

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Speaker 1: Vea both I think probably fit in that category of

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Speaker 1: their one techniques, but they have some three technique traits. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to necessarily take them off the field

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Speaker 1: on third down or passing down, right, Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: I really think the Cowboys would draft a defensive tackle nineteenth. Overall,

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Speaker 1: I don't like if you put a gun to my head,

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Speaker 1: I would say no. But nothing Steven Jones said leads

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Speaker 1: me to believe that you just have to rule those

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Speaker 1: guys out because it's it's realistic that by the time

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Speaker 1: pick nineteen gets there, the best player on the board

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Speaker 1: that think's gonna look like a turkey on thanks picked apart, right,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be skin and bones. So at nineteen,

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Speaker 1: the best player available might be say it is Vita Vea,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I even Isaiah Wynn is gone at

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can rule him out even you know,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what Steven said, Yeah, I just think that

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Speaker 1: went into panic mode. If okay, does this mean they're

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Speaker 1: eliminating one take? Steven Jones gave me the reason why

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Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't take a one technique, But in reaching

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Speaker 1: I've seen three technique traits in the player. Yeah, are

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Speaker 1: all the one to techniques that way? No, not all,

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Speaker 1: there's several though that we've seen that have played that

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Speaker 1: So you know what I'm thinking, Which you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's hard to get follow up questions in a setting

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Speaker 1: didn't see it. Stephen Jones was talking to about twenty reporters,

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Speaker 1: trying to get answered, right, But it would have been

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Speaker 1: nice to ask Stephen all right, well, what's your threshold

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Speaker 1: for just taking a one technique? That's all he does?

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Speaker 1: You know, Like, at what round are you more amenable

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Speaker 1: list is too good though. Yeah, we keep talking about those,

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Speaker 1: but you know, we talk about the guys and you know,

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Speaker 1: I keep looking it at my list of guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: Uh see, I'll get that name right one of these days.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that uh you know, I feel

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Speaker 1: you take it and you process it. But the fact

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Speaker 1: that a guy that we clearly you have thought about,

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Speaker 1: you know, that has been mocked to the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: does have those traits. So that's a that's a positive

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Speaker 1: thing right now, uh, David, anything else though, did you

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Speaker 1: Byron Jones moving to corner officially? I know people with

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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones was asked about that, and you know, that

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Speaker 1: kind of brings us into maybe, okay, if he does go,

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Speaker 1: you they've definitely talked about it. You can tell by

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Speaker 1: I don't to hear it from Stephen Jones. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: But it's I think it's kind of like a writing

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Speaker 1: but it is. You know, it's something that comes up

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Speaker 1: because all of a sudden you find yourself talking about safety,

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Speaker 1: and Stephen says, well, if we do decide to do

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Speaker 1: looks like a need for this team, which you know

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Speaker 1: we've talked about already. Right, You've got you've basically got

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Speaker 1: three safeties on this team, uh, two of which don't

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Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. I forgot to mention that stee.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is it's rare to just hear, you know,

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Speaker 1: we like Cheetah Moore as a corner than we do

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Speaker 1: as a safety. Right, We're not sure we really want

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Speaker 1: to move him, which, like to me, I'm celebrating that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to go anywhere, and this

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Speaker 1: isn't the best safety class prospects, so I don't maybe

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Speaker 1: they look it's kind of it's kind of like, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, you look at James from Florida State, Golden

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple other guys there that you kind of like,

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Speaker 1: me there's my two different rounds too, Yeah, you're not

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Speaker 1: talking went to my first round guy and potentially a

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Speaker 1: it might not even get the fifty rights. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna sit there and move Byron Jones and think, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll just draft to safety, you know, then they and

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Speaker 1: the heck they you know, they might like Harrison from

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Speaker 1: Alabama they might like Bates, you know, from Wake Forest.

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Speaker 1: You know, they might like Watts from Texas A and M,

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Speaker 1: which I know that obviously. I know this is the

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Speaker 1: draft show. But that's and to bring it all the

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Speaker 1: way back now, you'd like to trade, wouldn't you? Well,

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Speaker 1: all right, I wasn't even gonna go there, O spare

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Speaker 1: me your earl Thomas talk, because I don't even know

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Speaker 1: I know they're gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave it

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Speaker 1: hanging out there as like this imaginary dangling at dangling fruit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But well, and and Steven, you know, just to round

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Speaker 1: We need a fifth. We don't know where we're getting

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Speaker 1: him from. And that's the same thing. And we've talked

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Speaker 1: about it before. The Cowboys, you know, they they like

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Speaker 1: to cover their bases in free agency before you get

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Speaker 1: a free agency option. And if Byron Jones does move

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Speaker 1: to corner, you probably got to look at safety as

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Speaker 1: a free eye agency option. I mean, right in this

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Speaker 1: crazy dream world, maybe you trade for Earl Thomas or

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Speaker 1: I mean they went and got Robert Blanton last year.

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Speaker 1: It could be something that simple. But I think those

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Speaker 1: are two positions where I think in free agency they

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Speaker 1: got to take a look and just make sure that

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Speaker 1: they've got a body before they worry about the draft.

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Speaker 1: You would you would go ahead? And would you? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Would you in a trade back situation? Then if you

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Speaker 1: knew you needed a safety and you and and say

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Speaker 1: James is off the board, you feel comfortable going in

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Speaker 1: drafting Golden in the first round at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the first round at twenty seven, I don't. I mean

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Speaker 1: I had to be wiped out. I think, uh, because

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Speaker 1: my first draft board I had Golden like at forty

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Speaker 1: six overall in right, right, so that's a that's like

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Speaker 1: mid second round. It's not even early second round, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison is he still available from Alabama? Yeah? Because

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Speaker 1: I think that'd be an option. And see, do you like?

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Speaker 1: You like Harrison then better than Golden? They're different, they're different. Yeah, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Harrison's more of a downhill guy. Golden's I feel better

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Speaker 1: in cover the description I gave to you and I

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Speaker 1: were talking about Who's what is golden? Golden is Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Jenkins to me? Yeah, And I think that's a very

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Speaker 1: very good companion. Sure, he's just a He's just a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl veteran leader, super Bowl champion. In terms of

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Speaker 1: describe describe the player, though, what what? What's the player?

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Speaker 1: What could the player do? Player plays in the slot,

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Speaker 1: player player tackles well, player could play in coverage? Long? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you want, everybody out there wants

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Speaker 1: Heath and Derwin. But you're you're giving up two pretty

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Speaker 1: So if say the Browns called and said we'll get

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Speaker 1: Would you give Zach Martin for the fourth overall pick? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I mean, would you give up for the first overall pick?

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Speaker 1: There would have to be someone that I'd really want

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Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett, Like yeah, what are you drafting in

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Speaker 1: if you're just gonna take a Quentin Nelson, then not

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Speaker 1: if you take those quarterbacks, that's we just opened a

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Speaker 1: it's not. I try to get trade for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: he hasn't. The Cowboys have not decided which tender they're

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Speaker 1: going to place on David Irving, but they are going

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Speaker 1: to do it. You're guessing. I'm glad. I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: said that Brian's giving us the two for the second round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about the Cowboys. Would you give up David

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Speaker 1: Irving for a second round book. I'll tell you what though.

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Speaker 1: You know it's interesting because cash I sound like I

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Speaker 1: never want to ride the fence. That's what you're doing, right. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking you're saying, no way, no way, no way.

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Speaker 1: He's not no no way, no way, um the player.

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Speaker 1: What he brings to me on the field? No, But

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Speaker 1: you have to understand, I mean what fans have to

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Speaker 1: understand is we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, you know, work ethic wise, buying into

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Speaker 1: the culture. What can he bring to our team behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes that that's a big part of it, and

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Speaker 1: so we don't know that. But on the field, no,

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Speaker 1: I would rather have David Irving than a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: This takes me back to last summer. Wait, well, let

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Speaker 1: me ask you a question then, can I can I

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Speaker 1: interest you? What if pick is an early pick? What

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Speaker 1: if it's uh yeah, but what if it's one of

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Speaker 1: those picks. What if it's the Giant What if it's

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Speaker 1: the Giants pick? You know, what if it's the Giants pick,

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Speaker 1: say at thirty four, why doesn't it doesn't matter? I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's appealing, but you're you don't get so you

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Speaker 1: would pick you would pick it, you would pick a

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty four and fifty. Why are you trying to

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Speaker 1: get rid of it? I'm just as dominant pass fresher.

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Speaker 1: He played eight games last year and he got seven

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Speaker 1: sacks in those eight games. Sure, did you okay on

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Speaker 1: the consistency? Could we get something for him? Here? Is

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Speaker 1: your intent? Is your intent to sign him long terms?

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Speaker 1: The factor in the equation this I'm asking a question.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you get if you would you take

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Speaker 1: the thirty fourth pick for for four years or or

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Speaker 1: lose this guy potentially to free agency? What's your intent

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Speaker 1: of signing him? If you wanted to, if you really

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Speaker 1: wanted to resign him, you would tend to him one absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And the fact the fact that they're probably not going

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Speaker 1: to tells you that I mean it gives you a

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Speaker 1: pretty clear I'm not and I'm not again, guys, Hey,

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Speaker 1: trust me out there, I am not. This is Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us talking to say, Brian brought us to saddle

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Speaker 1: up to Will McClay and I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: the strategy. I'm just I'm just playing the other side

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Speaker 1: of it because I'm here in two knows, But is

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Speaker 1: the long term plan to sign David Irvin? I hear

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, and I don't. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: their plan is with that, and it would probably cost

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Speaker 1: them a lot, But you gotta keep you gotta keep

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Speaker 1: him mind franchise tag uh, you gotta keep it. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna do this year, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just way more willing to roll the dice and hope

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Speaker 1: that this guy plays as well as he has because, like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what this team has been looking for forever,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Dominant past? Absolutely the one they develop one,

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Speaker 1: they do all this work to get him, and then

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Speaker 1: they just don't want him anymore. I disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to feel pretty confident that, look, we know

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Speaker 1: we're not going to resign him regardless of what happens

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Speaker 1: next year. You're trying to give you a player that

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Speaker 1: you could maybe have for four years. If that and

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Speaker 1: if if that's my mindset is, I know I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to resign him to a long term deal no

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Speaker 1: matter what happens, then yeah, I mean, I entertain it. Again.

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Speaker 1: We don't love David or I do. I'm with you. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to play the other side of this though.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you to say the Colts, we talk,

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Speaker 1: how about the Colts. That's another team. You get a

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Speaker 1: defensive thirty five? What pick number was DeMarcus Lawrence? I

589
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Speaker 1: think he was thirty four? Thirty four? Was thirty four?

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Speaker 1: How many years did it take him to blossom into

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Speaker 1: a badass? Sure, yeah, you got a badass on your

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Speaker 1: team right now? Why? I like, but if you only

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Speaker 1: have him for one year, worry about that when he's

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Speaker 1: done posting twelve sacks next year? Well, and that's the

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Speaker 1: question you have to ask yourself is how likely is

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Speaker 1: it that you're going to resign him based on what

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Speaker 1: we know right now? I get that, But what's what's

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Speaker 1: the situation? I mean, again, you're gonna have You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Lawrence under on a one year deal too right

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Speaker 1: now to pay him. Can can we just worry about

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Speaker 1: that after we have sixty sacks next year? That's and

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. It's not I get

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Speaker 1: your thinking long term, and that's smart, but I'm sometimes

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Speaker 1: you gotta think short term. I think sometimes you get like,

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Speaker 1: who what's going to give us the best chance to win.

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Speaker 1: What's feasible after the season's over. What's the amount of like,

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Speaker 1: what's what are the odds that this guy is going

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Speaker 1: to this thirty hypothetical thirty fourth pick is going to

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Speaker 1: be better than the defensive tackle who's capable of just

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Speaker 1: wrecking a backfield. There's no question. And I don't you

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Speaker 1: going to pay? Yeah, you're playing the odds. You don't

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Speaker 1: know that though, what I mean, what if he plays

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Speaker 1: sixteen games next year and post a double digit sacks

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Speaker 1: and you're okay, sign him over. We just signed him

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Speaker 1: over lords, I don't know. I mean, and to your

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Speaker 1: to the point the Cowboys, which we don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen, but they've made a ton of

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Speaker 1: noise thinking that or saying that they want to sign

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. True. So if you can get a deal

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Speaker 1: even have to make this decision. It's gonna cost you

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Speaker 1: over probably seventeen a year, sixteen seventeen a year for

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, for sure, but it'll be a lower hit

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Speaker 1: because of the way. It's structure, sure, and then what's

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag on a defensive tackle. It's lower than

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Speaker 1: end Yeah, probably not too much, probably fifteen sixteen. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying you can handle this. You could. I hate

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Speaker 1: the thought of just letting this guy walk out the door.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, what if he walks out the

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Speaker 1: you're not That's what I'm trying to be. Yeah, I'm

633
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: not trying to let him walk out the door. I

634
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: don't think there's a right answer to this, but it's

635
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: just it's frustrating, and we love David Irving. The problem is, though,

636
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: is he consistent enough? And can you pay him? If

637
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay Lawrence, can you pay him? You know?

638
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: And you know that's that's gonna be the trick because

639
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: if you don't pay him, he's gonna go to the

640
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: highest bidder. It's frustrating the thing and you're not going

641
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: to get anything for it. How much effort this team

642
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: has put into finding pass rushers and then they've got

643
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: a really good one in there, just like we might

644
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: not want to get. Could I get you one in

645
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: that that pick thirty five from Indianapolis. Yeah, and then

646
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: four years he might be a really good player. I'm

647
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: just I'm just saying I just wouldn't really mean for

648
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: that to turn in to what it did. No, it's

649
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: it's a good discussion, yeah, said a Twitter question. Yeah,

650
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: who was it from? Mark? Thanks? Mark, a good job. Yeah,

651
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: good one. Uh, all right, Connor's got an either or

652
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: for you, Um, Marcus Davenport in the first or Comoco

653
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: Toire in the second. Okay, we're worried about Toure's injuries.

654
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Right shoulder, right shoulder. Yeah, Um, I'm worried about Terre

655
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: just in generalize as a player. I mean, you love

656
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: the the speed, you love the athleticism off the edge

657
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I've got I've got Davenport ahead of him. Sure, but

658
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: it's the I think everybody does. That's the point. It's

659
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: the value. What you want one at nineteen or the

660
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: other at fifty. I would take Davenport in the first.

661
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think I would too. You know, it's

662
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to do these without knowing. You know, if

663
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: you take Terrey in the second, who would be your first?

664
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: You know who's available. But I think just I would

665
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: take the better player, the better pass rusher. And that's

666
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: what if what if Hubbard was available in the first Yeah, Hubbart,

667
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: Herbert or or Davenport. I have Davenport over Hubbard. Yeah

668
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: Hubbard Ohio State? Oh oh oh yeah, Okay, that's who

669
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: is probably more ready to play immediately. But I think

670
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Davenport's the better play long term. He's got a higher

671
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: ceiling than Hubbard has um Who do you have higher

672
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: in your board? Oh no, I'm Davenport over Hubbard, I am,

673
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: and might have him over to Ray. And again Dane

674
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: even talked about this though. That shoulder is a concern

675
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: for Tray. I think you're gonna I think you know

676
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to seriously dig in on him. Good looking,

677
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: his sophomore and junior years nothing, I mean they were

678
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: wasted years. And then he played okay as a senior,

679
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: but still uh not enough that I would take the

680
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: better player, the better pass rusher, and that's Davenport. Yeah. Spencer, good.

681
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Good question from the first segment on the show. Spencer

682
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: wants to know other than Derwin James, assuming by Aaron

683
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Jones does move to corner, other than Derwin James, which

684
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: safety is in this draft. Would you think could start

685
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: over the Cowboys current personnel. So that would be I

686
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: mean you over Xavier Woods over Fraser. Really, that's a

687
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: good question. I would say those two because I mean,

688
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: I just I think Jeff Heath has a starting job

689
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: lockdown as far as I'm concerned. But so who who

690
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: other than Derwin would you think could beat out Woods

691
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: and Frasier Ronnie Harrison? That's what I was thinking, Alabama safety,

692
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Uh do you trust him enough in coverage or at

693
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: least compared to what the Cowboys having the roster? Now? See,

694
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: then that's the that's the thing I've bad it is

695
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: I would Galden is my guy because I think the

696
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: guy you stole my guy, I did steal your guy. Yeah,

697
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: you're You're absolutely right about that. But we're on the

698
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: same scouting staff here are You just happened to go

699
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: to the area before me. You get Knoxville before I did.

700
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: Scouts a very territory, are very territorial. I will say

701
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: this though, if you want to say who's the better

702
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: cover guy, who is the better cover guy maybe in

703
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: physicality being equal that I say that's but if you

704
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: want to play with the cover guy guy, that that

705
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: could play slot now again, he does similar things that

706
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: he does, similar things that Xavier Woods does up to

707
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: about Golden, but not opinion better tackler, a much more

708
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: physical player. Yeah, I think so too. So to me,

709
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: I think that if they're if the Cowboys are committed

710
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: to playing with young guys like they showed last year, yeah,

711
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: I have no problem playing with Harrison Golden, any one

712
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: of those guys. Throw them on the field. Let's go.

713
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: Let's say got the top three, Yeah, Derwin, Ronnie, Harrison Golden.

714
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: After those top three, any safeties stand out to you

715
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: as players? Alan, I think, I think, I think if

716
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: you had to play allan Penn State down in the box,

717
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: I think he could do. But I got Byron Jones

718
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: doing that. That's my Byron Jones. Guy. I need somebody

719
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: to play in the back end and cover and zone.

720
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: The way they play wake Forest play is very similar

721
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: that Number two play that a single high. When you

722
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: watch bits play for what a wake Forest, he does

723
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: play very deep and he comes forward. That's his game.

724
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: That's his game he keeps, that's his deal. So maybe

725
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: he could be a starter if you said, okay, we're

726
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: gonna interchange. You know, if if Heath goes down, or

727
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: or Byron Jones goes down. Whoever, you could play Bates

728
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: deep and he I think he would be a better

729
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods in my opinion. I'd agree with that. And

730
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I'd also throw out Jordan Whitehead as a play. Yeah,

731
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: yet that's your guy, That's right. I haven't been to

732
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: pit yet. Luke wants to know. We watched, We watched. No,

733
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: I know, but I need I need to do. Yeah. Yeah,

734
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: Luke wants to know. All right, don't answer for yourselves.

735
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: He wants you to put on your Cowboys hats. What

736
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: round do you see the Cowboys being willing to start

737
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: looking at running back? I've I've said I would draft

738
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: one in the third round. I don't really think they

739
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: would do I don't think so. I think anywhere on

740
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: the day on Day three, anywhere on day anywhere in

741
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: fourth round own, yeah, I think anywhere anywhere in Day three.

742
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: You get to see who's available for you in the

743
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: fourth round, and if your best player is a running back,

744
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: I think they'd do that if I would be And Walton,

745
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: Kelly is at who we're kind of talking about Walton

746
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: or Kelly Walton about Penny. I think Walton will be gone.

747
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: I think he's a Day two player. Kelly. Yeah, see,

748
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: possibly he could be right about Walton though, if it's

749
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: if it's just beyond obvious that the best guy on

750
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: the boards is running back, Sure, but like I would be,

751
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I'd be moderately surprised if they draft a running back

752
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: in the fourth Tell you what, watching Penny play, he's

753
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: he's got some skill. Oh yeah, but he's got but

754
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: the pass block. Uh well, I mean, let's just say,

755
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: like a freegency, they address left guard. Uh and in

756
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: the first round they go you're saying, the first three

757
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: rounds they get their nose tackle, they get let's say

758
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker, a linebacker, and a safety just going on defense.

759
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: Balls to the wall. So right, first pick on Day three,

760
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: you have your left guard. I mean, you could go

761
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: offensive line depth. They could use some of that Corbett

762
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: what they have too late for Corbett? Right they have

763
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: they have two fourths. Now that keeps saying Corbett, you know,

764
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: like he's a Day three guy and he's really not. No,

765
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: he's not. Yeah, goada give me. I mean Kelly at

766
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: one sixteen, John Kelly, that's fine with Darrell Williams. You're

767
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: the one that sent fourth was early for him. I

768
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: would do it. I have a fourth on him. I

769
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: would take him in the fourth. Bring it on, you

770
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: take him over Kelly. No, we got Kelly and then

771
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: Williams back to back in the fourth. Just I'll do

772
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: I'll cart wheel around the studio if Daryl Williams is

773
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: a pick for this team. Sean Pabe told me a

774
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: great story yesterday about Camara. Yeah, he was talking about

775
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: he challenged the scouts because the scouts fell in love

776
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: with McCaffrey, just totally fell in love with McCaffrey. And

777
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Sean tells the story about he goes, I said, Okay,

778
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: he goes, the guy I really like is Camara, And

779
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: he challenged the scouts to tell him something bad about

780
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: Camara and of those guys could do And he goes,

781
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: when we're gonna take kicked out of Alabama? Yeah, I

782
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: mean that's you know which, But no, I'm just saying

783
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: it tell me something bad about him as a player.

784
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, on the field, yeah yeah. And if the

785
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: Scout if they had done that, let's say, if they

786
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: take McCaffrey, Now you don't have Marshawn Lattimore, defensive rookie

787
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: of the year, and by drafting McCaffrey, you don't need

788
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: a running back, so you don't draft the offensive rookie

789
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: of the year either. Yeah, that's exactly right. There is

790
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: why the draft is so badass, Like just one conversation,

791
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: is the difference between a team drafting the defensive and

792
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year in the same weekend. They

793
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: would have had a trade up to get McCaffrey by

794
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: a pick, right, or say McCaffrey went seven. Yeah, I

795
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: thought I thought nine or ten. I thought McCaffrey went

796
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: ten and Lattimore went eleven a Lattimore one eleven, I

797
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: believe whatever, Yes it was seven and eleven. Yeah, because

798
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Myhomes went ten. The draft is awesome. That's really what

799
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: if because they were ready to take Mahomes at ten? Hey,

800
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: can I throw Can I throw some real quick numbers

801
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: at you for this? Real quick numbers? Will Hernandez, you

802
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: tap measurements, big old dude, six O two three three

803
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: twenty seven's thirteen pounds later. That's then and the Senior

804
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: Bowl right arm linked hands of ninety seven eights, arm

805
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: link of thirty two. That's I'm gonna give you Isaiah

806
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: win real quick six oh two six three thirteen eight

807
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: and a half hands, thirty three and three eight's arms. Yeah,

808
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: smaller hands than you want. But I gotta be a

809
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: bad coal weather quarterback with those hands. I know, I

810
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: get why hands are important for a lot of positions.

811
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Why are they important for a guard? You're going to

812
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: blot this isn't nineteen seventy three with you know. Yeah,

813
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: but if an electric football man, if you if you've

814
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: got if you've got insane power, I mean powers power,

815
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: he's a good player, just real quick, two of another

816
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: one throughout a guy Connor Williams by the way, Texas

817
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: Texas six o five one two ninety six, ten and

818
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: a half hands, thirty three arms, just to give you

819
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: ninety he's gonna be a guard for some teams. Yeah,

820
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: it give you an idea, can give me Walton the

821
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: two running backs, we were talking out real quick. Just

822
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I know it took over myself. No, no, I'm just

823
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm just wanting. I just like to talk about measurements,

824
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: because that's that's what scouts did. They're boring to me,

825
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: they are, well maybe not to you. To me, they're not.

826
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: John Kelly is five o nine seven two sixteen nine

827
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: and three eight's hands thirty one in three eight's arms.

828
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people watch this instead of

829
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: just listened to it. But if you're not watching, Brian

830
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: is delivering these measurements with like just this, this gusta,

831
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: like this is the most fascinating thing he's ever said.

832
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Like he's leaning in on Dane. Every time he gives

833
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: a number, he gets it. That's why, that's why I'm

834
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: leaning in the day when we get this combine sheet

835
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: and get to see them all in front of you.

836
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Just started Mark Walton five O nine five, So okay,

837
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: we have five oh nine seven with Kelly five O

838
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: nine five with Walton two O two so we got

839
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: fourteen number. We got a fourteen pound difference between the two.

840
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: He was one ninety during the season. For him to

841
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Speaker 1: get up to two o two, he's a big deal

842
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: for Mark Walton nine and a quarter hands, thirty arms. Okay,

843
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: I just want to get a few measuables in there.

844
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Speaker 1: We got time for one more question. You surely do, David,

845
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Speaker 1: I think we do. Can't we ken't Garrison, Executive producer,

846
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Speaker 1: By the way, A question I really like from our

847
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Speaker 1: buddy jonah Um not talking about the interviews and the

848
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, the intangibles, but in strictly in terms of

849
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: what they're gonna be doing on the field. Who's a

850
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: prospect that you think that has the most to lose

851
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: while they're up here, most to lose? You know what?

852
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: If anyway, Yeah, let me tell you this though, can

853
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: Um Courtland sunn Yeah? Yeah, if he runs a four

854
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: or five eight something like that, I'm not gonna help

855
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: with the worries about his speed and ability to separate.

856
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't do well in the short short

857
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: area agility drills, that's not gonna help him. A lot's

858
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: riding on Courtland Sun and how he works out. Let's

859
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: tell you this. I'll go the opposite approach here. I'm

860
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: gonna say, if any one of these quarterbacks the top

861
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: ones throw, scouts will not ding him for that. Scouts

862
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: love the competitive aspect of this. They want the guys

863
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: to show up, and hey, some guys have reasons for

864
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: the doing their own workouts and stuff like that. But

865
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, I feel like though Cam

866
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Newton in two eleven or yeah, first growing performance at Yeah,

867
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: it was not it was not as good as you

868
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: as you thought, what if I'm trying to think about

869
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: the about those first round like the first round offensive

870
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: lineman maybe or maybe you mentioned wide receivers. Is that

871
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: the one area where you think that if they work out,

872
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: that they're gonna the speed. But people go back to

873
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: those workouts, People go back, they'll they'll make a trip

874
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: back to Dallas to run that kid again. You know.

875
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you like the kid, you'll go do that.

876
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: But I like what you're saying, though. If Sudden doesn't

877
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: do well, you got to make sure you go. Kirk

878
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: is another one in Texas, A and M. You know,

879
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: if he doesn't run, I mean there's a lot of

880
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: people that think pretty highly of him. Yeah, and if

881
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: things don't work out well for him, is it going

882
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: to be Well, he's just what he is. He's a

883
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: slot player only and that kind of stuff, right, Yeah,

884
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: not enters into the conversation. Any of these cornerbacks do

885
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: that for you. Video's cornerbacks make it make it that

886
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: if they have a bad workout. You know, Jackson from Iowa, Uh, Alexander,

887
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Das from Davis from a bigger

888
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: guy who's not gonna win with blazing speed. That's not

889
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: his game. I was gonna talk about a linebacker. I thought,

890
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel, Josie Jwel, I knew you're going that route.

891
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: That's a player that needs to He's not gonna be

892
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: the best athlete here, He's not. He still look just

893
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: can't be the worst it is. It's gonna look it's

894
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna bad. No he is. But you watch the tape

895
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: and the guy makes plays well. And here here's another one.

896
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: He's a four eight guy. Maybe you have Orlando Brown's

897
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: measurements in front of you. I do tell us the

898
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown's measurement, Orlando Browns measurements. Oklahoma tackle six Z

899
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: seven seven three forty five. That's a big boy, yeah,

900
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: ninety three quarters hand with a wingspan. Uh it's thirty

901
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: five arms. Okay, when the span was like, how about

902
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: how about talk about a guy measured him pretty well?

903
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: About Crosby from Oregon six h four five, three h

904
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: nine ten and three quarter hands, thirty five and a

905
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: quarter arms. That's your swing tackle day from Oregon. I

906
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: mean you gotta take him pretty early, though, don't you know?

907
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: It's here like you're right, Yeah, you're right. I was

908
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: trying to be. I'm not trying to draft my swing

909
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: tackle until like pick one, thirty five or whatever it is.

910
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Have you hope he's there at fifty four? You Yeah,

911
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: But what I was going for with the Lardo Brown, Yes,

912
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: he's a guy that he's gonna look bad working out well. Again,

913
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: he will not be the best athlete moves. He just

914
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: can't be the worst athlete here. Yeah, he has to

915
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: at least look capable in these in the mirror drills

916
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: in you know, just the short agility, don't labor, don't labor,

917
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: don't be the laboring guy. He's got heavy feet, there's

918
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: no fee. He just has to not look like he's

919
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: just a fish out of water, uh during these drills.

920
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: And so he can compensate with that wide base the

921
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: wing span. But he cannot be one of the worst

922
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: athletes one the offensive lineman here. Bob the Billy prices

923
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: thirty two in charms the center from Ohio State. Not ideal,

924
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: but I think it's expected based on tape and belly

925
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: blockerty that that guy gets real close and kind of

926
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: belly to belly block guy, that he'll lunch, she'll fall forward,

927
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: he'll be over aggressed. If he doesn't have the length,

928
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons why James Daniels is

929
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: the top center for both of us. I got you okay, well,

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Speaker 1: our fine executive award winning executive producers telling me to break.

931
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Speaker 1: So when we come back, we'll get into some more

932
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: of this combine talk. We'll kind of preview some things

933
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976
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Speaker 1: the clock. We're back here from the Combine, Indianapolis, almost

977
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Speaker 1: to the STBBC Morket Studios, which is our home away

978
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979
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Speaker 1: This is our home away from Like, what is this

980
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Speaker 1: the fourth year we've done this from the Combine leap?

981
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: So this is my twenty sixth combine. Let's talking with

982
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: Stephen Thomas, our good buddy here with us, and I

983
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: was telling him about half my life has been spent

984
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: here walking around the streets of Indianapolis. Great city. Yeah,

985
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: it is a great city. We're glad to be here.

986
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, though, offensive lineman and running backs will

987
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: be the talk of the day. The running backs will

988
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: be the first group tomorrow at two o'clock at the

989
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 1: podium here, so you'll probably seen a lot of tweets, guys,

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00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: Dane does a really good job. If you're not already

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992
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: This is what I really appreciate. And I retweet a

993
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: lot of your stuff. What kids say. You know, some

994
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: little draft nugget that a kid is working out or

995
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: he's you know, some little things, some little thing you

996
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: might not know about a kid you come up with.

997
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: I love that. I love when you do that. We

998
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: got a few valuable things from the podium today with

999
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: some of the general managers. John Elway at the podium

1000
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: saying how he's like me, you can't evaluate quarterbacks. Yeah,

1001
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: even though his resume looks a little better. We had

1002
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings he had. He won a few Super Bowls,

1003
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: He's got multiple But anyway, he got a Hall of

1004
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: Fame jacket. His team requested that Baker Mayfield would be

1005
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: on their team, coached by their coaches at the Senior Bolts.

1006
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: At the podium, he said he didn't really get a

1007
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: chance to talk to Baker may Yeah, which is a

1008
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: interesting thought there. I don't know why, but he did

1009
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: say that he anticipated Baker Mayfield being one of their

1010
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: thirty visits, which I thought that was interesting. When we

1011
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: then verse still in the mix for Kirk Cousins, you

1012
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: know what's going on there, So that was interesting to

1013
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: put that out there. He also said Josh Rosen would

1014
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: be one of the top thirty visits. So it's like

1015
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: the way to take a pack twelve quarterback? Right, yeah,

1016
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: elway given a little bit away there, and then Dave

1017
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Gettlman at the podium New York, New York Giants knew

1018
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: GM right. He mentioned how the the running back position,

1019
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: how it's a complete myth that you can't take a

1020
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: running back high. He said, if he's the best player

1021
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: in this draft, you take him. And he kind of

1022
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: put the number two pick a little uh, created some

1023
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: I think some high expectations, saying it should be a

1024
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: future Hall of famer, uh, things like along those lines.

1025
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: So whoever the Giants drafted better at number at number two,

1026
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: better be ready to reach some high expectation. He's not

1027
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: gonna take him there. Sorry, it's not happening. I can't

1028
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: wait till the draft night and they hand that card in.

1029
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm a riot at you when that happened. Wouldn't be

1030
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: a bad pick. I just I don't think getleman. I'm

1031
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: just I think I think Berkeley Chubb or one of

1032
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. And Okay, as from a Cowboys perspective, do

1033
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: you I know you don't want to see Barkeley in

1034
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: this division? Not really. I mean let's just say, forget us.

1035
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: I could take Gallman to tackle him. There's no such thing. Well,

1036
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: there's not such thing as a top five pick that

1037
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: you want to see in your division. I mean, it's true.

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00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Bradley Chubb twice a year either.

1039
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: If you have to lessen the blow, Wentz. Yeah, no,

1040
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: it's my point. Yeah, exact sounds like it's gonna be

1041
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: a nightmare. But if you have to lessen the blow

1042
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: a little bit, would you want who would you rather

1043
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: see end up at the number two pick? Barkley Chubb

1044
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: or Josh Rosen? Oh? Oh man? Uh, probably Chubb because

1045
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just used to the Giants having good

1046
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: defensive ends anyway, So what else is now? Yeah? I

1047
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: plus the Cowboys have invested in their own lines I've

1048
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: gone on record with you guys. I've gone on record

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Speaker 1: saying I think Rosen's Matt Ryan. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a very good conversed to keep him out of

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Speaker 1: the East. Yeah, I mean I think, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think the tape's terrible on on Rosen. But again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so fascinated hear what the buzz is

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Speaker 1: going to be. We talked about that Monday when we said, remember,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start hearing Gil Brand's gonna go her. Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen interviewed poorly. Questions were hard on him, They didn't

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Speaker 1: like tough coaching, you know, all that. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna leak out, you know, because we're all question

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Speaker 1: I mean, did I compare him to I compared to Ryan.

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Speaker 1: But I'm kind of worried about him being Joey Harrington,

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Speaker 1: which is my albatross. I almost said that the guy

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Speaker 1: that might not like football, you know, I almost said,

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Speaker 1: I almost said I'd prefer they draft Rosen. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be a bust, but quarterbacks have a

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Speaker 1: way higher chance of being a bust, and that would

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Speaker 1: be great hits. Okay, let's ask this, then what's the

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00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: bust factor on Chubb real? Yeah, a top ten defensive

1068
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: end and less. I mean, unless it's a crazy game.

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Speaker 1: Unless I'm just saying, unless it's a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: McGlinchey might be the best tackle this draft. I guess

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Speaker 1: my point like, if we think if he's a if

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Speaker 1: he's a hit, he's a double digit sack guy for

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Speaker 1: the next four years. If he's a bust, even if

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Speaker 1: he's a bust, he's probably still producing for your defensive line,

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00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: you hope. So unless it's just a crazy circumstance like

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00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, like a Randy Gregory or something like that, Yeah,

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00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: he's getting suspended in stuff. You would think even a

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00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: bust of a top ten defensive end is going to

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Speaker 1: be getting a handful of sacks a year. So do

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Speaker 1: you think Barkley could have the same effect that with

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Speaker 1: with with Zekad with the Giants. I don't know about

1082
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: the same effect, but he could come pretty darn close.

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Speaker 1: I like offensive rookie of the Year absolutely, I mean,

1084
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: no two front offices think the same way, But like

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Speaker 1: go I mean, go back to this show two years ago.

1086
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: We're like, you don't need to draft Carson wentz. Romo's there,

1087
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: he's not that old. They got this offensive line they drafted,

1088
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: they drafted Zeke for Romo well and well, Eli mannings

1089
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: younger now than Romo was at that time, I believe,

1090
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: so thirty seven and roll them out there with a

1091
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: badass running back and help fix up that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Barkley could be good for them. The

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Speaker 1: Giants at two are really they're fascinating. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think we all think quarterback one to the brown Oh yeah,

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00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: what I what I wanted to say when you brought

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Speaker 1: that up is that it's so interesting to me because

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00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: it could all change in the next month with the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are available in free agency and the teams

1099
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Speaker 1: that need him. I mean, the Broncos seemed like a

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Speaker 1: candidate for a quarterback right now. They might not be

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Speaker 1: in a month. Same goes for the Jets. The feeling

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Speaker 1: the Browns are going to try to sign a free

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Speaker 1: agent quarterback, but they will, they could. I think they

1104
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: will because they don't want whoever they take at number

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00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: one starting from day one. But yeah, and the quarterback dominoes,

1106
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Speaker 1: I mean, first Kirk Cousins and then you know, we

1107
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: go from there. Case Keenum and the rest of the

1108
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: aj mccarreen, the rest of the guys, your whole, your

1109
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: whole top ten could change based on what these teams

1110
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Speaker 1: do in free agent. If you're a Cowboy fan, you

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Speaker 1: don't want you don't want Cousins to go before you

1112
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: did any one of those teams though. You want him

1113
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: to go to Minnesota. Who's picking after you? So everybody

1114
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Speaker 1: still stays in line for potential quarterbacks. Yeah, if you

1115
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: want to drive somebody to you and you're gonna have

1116
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: to do a lot of a lot of hope and

1117
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: to get somebody t at nineteen. Yeah, but it's happened.

1118
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Speaker 1: I mean we've Lamar Jackson's the wild card. See, well

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Speaker 1: we I had this conversation because they have me on Arnold,

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Speaker 1: they had me on Cowboys Break this morning, and do

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Speaker 1: you want I think there's two ways to look at it.

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00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: You could hope for a quarterback to fall so somebody

1123
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: wants to trade. Or you could also just hope they

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Speaker 1: all go, because that's five picks that aren't going toward

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Speaker 1: a guy you want take five and ten. Give me

1126
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: a couple of runners to go too. If all five

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks go before the Cowboys pick. I'm starting

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Speaker 1: to think maybe Roquan Smith or Derwin James has a

1129
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Speaker 1: chance to be there, or at the very least they'll

1130
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: be an arrange that I feel comfortable trading. Yeah. Yeah,

1131
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Speaker 1: So my hope that my hope is, come on, Lamar Jackson,

1132
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Speaker 1: have an awesome combine. Yeah, my hope there is some people.

1133
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Speaker 1: My hope is that that not everybody likes Roquan Smith.

1134
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: That the measurables, that's a measurable that's my hope. If

1135
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: the measurables, if he's not for everybody, let's he's not

1136
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: gonna fit in the box. That a lot of teams.

1137
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Speaker 1: Just that's the fun thing too. If you go back

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00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: to our first show, Oh yeah, we were taught like

1139
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: we're like, Roquan's not a possibility and Derwin James is.

1140
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: And by the time we get home from the combine,

1141
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Derwin James is off the board and

1142
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: Roquan's a possibility exactly. All right, Well, hey, listen, that's

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Speaker 1: all the time we have tonight for the draft show.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you stay tuned to Dallas Cowboys dot com

1145
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: for all the great content coming from the combine. Our

1146
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: stuff of our possible pick, star evaluation, a lot of

1147
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: good things going on, even though it's the off season.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to post tomorrow what time the Draft

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Speaker 1: show will be on. Just kind of stay tuned to that.

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Speaker 1: We'll tweet it out love Twitter on the twenty all

1151
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: year comments, everything like that we could do for you,

1152
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: so for my Scott and buddies, Dane Burglar, for David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: for Kent Garrison executive producer. I'm Brian Bros. Thanks again

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Speaker 1: for joining us. We'll see tomorrow night from Indianapolis. Stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that.