WEBVTT - Swords & Sandals 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:01.320 Warning. 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:06.520 This episode contains mild spoilers, but pretty concrete spoilers for 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.920 a variety of swords and sandals movies in film history 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.640 over the last fifty years, So be warned, be warned. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.199 Hello, my name is Spartacus. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.320 No, my name is Jason Gczepsio, and I am also Spotacus. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.159 I'm also Jason Cacepsio. No, I'm merthday Night, I'm merdy Knight, 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:44.080 And welcome back to. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.400 Next mention of the podcast where we dive deep into 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.720 your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Coming to 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.320 you from My Heart podcast, where we're bringing you three 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.280 episodes a week every Tuesday Thursday, with extra episodes every Wednesday. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.160 In today's episode, we are exploring some of the best 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:04.600 why how much fantastical Swords and Sandals movies in anticipation 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.000 of gladiat It's two's released this Friday, and how did 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:12.319 we pick them? Well, we're recommending the best movies to 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.360 watch if you like certain very specific and hilarious moments 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:17.120 from Gladiator. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.360 Let's get into it first, Let's talk about what we 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:28.040 mean when we say swords and sandals. This is a 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:33.280 film genre popularized in the middle of the twentieth century, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:41.120 and it encompasses movies that are often set in antiquity, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:48.480 that have often biblical themes or Greco Roman hystory Jeo 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:54.440 Christian kind of basis, and they are set in the 0:01:54.880 --> 0:02:00.280 ancient world, you know, the levant to Greece to anciently. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.960 And there are various subgenres here and affect some of 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.760 our picks, kind of our picks definitely, uh, you know, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.280 pushed the boundaries of the true swords and sandals mostly 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:16.120 it's yeah, yeah, I think it's mostly swords and so 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.000 and a lot of sandals. But the subgenres here are 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:24.960 obviously fantasy movies, swords again, historical fiction, yeah, you know, 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:31.640 things like Master and Commander, gladiators and rebelling against their rulers, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.680 pirate movies, those kinds of things. Uh, they often contain 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:40.600 elements of uh, you know, man struggle for freedom, that's 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.280 basically it. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.200 Yeah, coming up against ambitious rulers. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.400 Yes, that's that's a lot of that. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:47.240 Uh. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:52.120 And a lot of these epics were shot in Italy. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.160 Yes, it's very Spaghetti Weston in that way. Like lots 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:01.400 of original like what were essentially cheap auctions made in Italy, 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:07.440 like Cuivades or ulysses Co direct Benjamin Bava. Yeah, by 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.560 the way, like claszy, crazy stuff. But yeah, Helen of 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:16.200 Troy with Sergio Leone as uncredited second unit director, So 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.320 you can see this was kind of the proto kind 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.120 of wave of pre spaghetti Western. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.160 Yeah, I mean, I think this was these this genre 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.480 and this movement to film, you know, in Italy, I 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:36.600 think was important for seating future talent from Italy and 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.720 in countries with opportunities that they could then take to 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.400 make the movies that they would then go on to 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:48.320 be famous for Bava with his various Giallo horror movies 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:53.440 and Leoni with his basically creating the Spaghetti Western genre 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:54.400 whole cloth. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.240 What about the modern era? 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:01.600 Lots of examples of this in the modern Gladiator, which 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.080 is the most famously. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.040 And successfully I think. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.800 Yeah, I mean it's Oscar winning film, and it's the 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:12.440 reason we're doing this episode. Gladiator from two thousand Troy. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.800 Not a good movie, no, but it was. It was 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.560 an attempt to capitalize on the success of Gladiator and 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.080 bring back this swords and sandals, space. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.880 And some there's some fun action there. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:28.600 Alexander, Oh, what about that? I Forget Don't Forget Colin. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.840 Colin Ferrell's Don't Forget Colin Farles Alexander, where. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.560 Angelina Jolie, who was only like three years older than him, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:42.240 played his mom famously. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.960 Very very strange. Although I will say valcam Are kind 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:49.120 of stealing the movie three hundred of course, who could probably. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.920 The most culturally impactful release of that mid zero's era. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.960 That kind of obviously launched the career and stylistic chops 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.240 of one of the most contentious but definitely successful filmmakers 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:01.680 of his era. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:02.200 That's right. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.160 And then twenty tens Clash of the Titans and it's 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:06.640 nineteen eighty eighty. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.080 One, Yeah, eighty one. That's that's what I was gonna say. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.880 The one thing we didn't touch on here, and they 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:16.240 are They are not as necessarily impactful now, but definitely 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.599 when we were growing up, the Ray Harry Housen animated 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:20.360 Clash of the. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.840 Titans, Argonauts, Jason and the Argonauts, and The Golden Fleece. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.760 Where you would have these kind of a fighting skeletons 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.159 brought to life with stop motion. I think for me, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:34.120 those were definitely the most impactful and memorable movies, especially 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.320 because in England. When I was growing up, we only 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.280 had like four channels, Channel one, two, three and four 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.760 literally ITV and Channel four BBC one and two, and 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.400 whenever it was Christmas or Easter or Bank Holiday, they're 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:47.560 showing those Harry House. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:47.880 I know that. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:53.120 I know that because of National Lampoon's European vacation exactly. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.880 And it's true. They were correct. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.960 Okay, we've set the stage. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.480 To this break and word from our sponsors, we will 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:04.200 get to our picks. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:20.679 Yeah, and we're back. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:21.640 We're back. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:22.960 Here's the format. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:28.400 We're gonna pitch these movies to you based on things 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.200 from Gladiator or things that you may have liked from Gladiator. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.760 So for instance, you know, if you liked the action 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.839 and Gladiator, you will like this movie. I'll start off 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:46.280 if you liked this quote from Lucilla in Gladiator today 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.200 I watched a slave become more powerful than the Emperor 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.039 of Rome. Then you must watch Spartacus from nineteen sixty, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:07:00.200 an absolute classic. It's Stanley Kubrick. It's slyly subversive for 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.000 a movie in nineteen sixty that deals with, you know, 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.800 man's struggle from up pressers and being enslaved. There's a 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:17.200 lot of winks and nods to then contemporary social struggles. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:17.360 That were going on. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.800 Here's a fun fact for you about Spartacus. This is 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:24.240 based on the life of an actual freedom fighting gladiator 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.920 took who basically sparked what was the last of the 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.760 three slave rebellions in each Rome called the surviv Wars. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:36.840 These happened like two hundred ish years before, like you know, 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.440 Augustus and all these guys. It's the first one, and 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.280 then they happened like basically every fifty years until the 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.680 last one, in which Spartacus broke free of his gladiator 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.760 school and then just kind of rampaged across the southern 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.480 Italian peninsula for two years. That's the thing that people 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:58.680 don't dialize, yeah, when they watched this movie. That's important 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.119 to think about. Spartacus was just out there for two 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:09.880 whole years, running around freeing enslaved people and you know, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.720 looking for a way off the peninsula. Further fun fact, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:21.000 he was brought down by Marcus Lucinia's Crassis his army. Crassus, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.560 then known as the richest man in Rome, was later 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:29.480 slayed by the Parthians in Syria, and like the legend 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.240 is that after they killed him. The Parthians, as a 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.320 mockery of his lust for wealth and his greed, melted 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.880 gold and poured it down his mouth, an echo, of course, 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.520 of the death of visaras Targarian in Season one of 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:47.520 Game of Thrones. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.840 One of my favorite moments from this show. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.200 And by the way, the I Am Spartacus, which we 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.480 were the I am Spartacus line, which we referenced, the 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:59.000 iconic moment from the movie in which you know, the 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:04.600 the victoriaious Roman legions promise their surviving gladiators that they 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.880 will be mercifully dispatched if only they will point out 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:14.440 who Spartacus is, like either his corpse or amongst those living, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.079 who are you know, sitting side by side of them, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.400 And just as Spartacus is about to rise up and 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.839 say I'm Spartacus, various other gladiers saying I am sport, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.560 I am Spartan, not letting them get the satisfaction of 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.439 finding him. And that is a moment that retains its 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.200 like pop culture impact. The Office referenced it like there's 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.679 a million references to this despite the movie coming out 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:38.400 over half a century ago. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.520 I think, to me, the one that is most unbelievable 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.040 and kind of showcases how you can put a moment 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.920 in a movie and never know where it will go. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:52.400 In the fantastic Netflix series Sex Education, there is a 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:57.720 episode at wonderful series does an episode where somebody shas 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.560 nudes and people are mocking it, and there it's of 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.520 an intimate part of somebody's body, and then it's causing 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.719 a big problem in the school. And then all the 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.240 girls stand up and do an I Am Spartacus saying 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.640 it's their nude so that the girl won't get in 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.000 trouble and so that people will stop, you know, mocking 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.880 this intimate part of her body. And I remember watching 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.920 that and thinking, like, Stanley Kubrick just never knew, but 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.840 you know what you would Actually, you would probably have 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.840 loved this, Stanley Kubrick, Actually this specific version of it, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.480 I think you would have been into it. But yeah, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.040 like the way that you could never imagine that you 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.720 would have a bunch of teenage girls referencing I Am 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:37.080 Spartacus about revenge porn. Sixty years later you're like, Okay, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.079 but that's the power of the I Am Spartacus moment 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.920 and that kind of coming together of oppressed people to 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.000 protect each other in the face of tyranny. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.160 You know we were talking about before we turned on 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.720 the mics doing a episode about they had it coming scenes, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:59.040 And I'll just say the escape moment in Spartacus is 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.800 one of the great things had it coming moments in film. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.080 What's your pick? What's your first pick? 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.760 Okay? I love that I get to do this one. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.400 So if you like the opening battle scene and gladiator, 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.480 which I do think is often forgotten about compared to 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.080 the rest of the movie, is very different in tone 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.880 in which the Romans squared off against the Germanic tribes, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.600 watch The Thirteenth Warrior. I was so happy when you 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.479 picked this one, Jason, because this is such an enjoyable, 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.600 fun movie, but forgotten and forgotten and great. It was 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.400 a crushing bomb, the biggest flop of the box office 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.080 year of nineteen ninety nine. The Thirteenth Warrior is a 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.199 fun movie, and as Jason points out in this fantastic 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.160 little note that he wrote a fantastic pedigree of cast 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.200 stories by Michael Crichton, the novelist who gave us Jurassic Parks. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.000 Ever heard of It? 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:50.920 Ever Heard of It? And director John McTiernan predator Diehard 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:55.920 hunt for any One of all time, and the story 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:01.240 is a kind of like a medieval tinge our Arab 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.240 academic in the tenth century AD who finds himself attached 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.480 to a band of Viking mercenaries who go north to 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.240 fight an evil army of bear men. The film is 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.640 thirty three percent on rot On Tomorrow's, which. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.479 Is really I think that's it's very unfair. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:20.360 Very unfair. It's actually very good and very fun and 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.920 a complete riot to watch. I just actually think it 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.319 was a bit ahead of its time. I think because 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.240 tonally it is more akin to kind of the action 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.880 adventure weird vibes of movies that would be made like 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.359 ten years later rather than the late nineties. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.720 I completely agree with you. It kind of just doesn't 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.280 fit anything. I see why it bombed. It's definitely the 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.360 type of movie where we've talked about these type of 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.760 movies the Friday night like blockbuster movies. Yes, yes, this 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.720 would have excelled as a Friday night uh, you know, 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:54.640 blockbuster movie. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:55.840 And it's absolute worth your time. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.080 Mc tiernan is a wonderful action director of the His 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.480 camera moves in war wonderful ways. There's like this great 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.839 shot of these like evil the evil army of bear men, 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.840 which is a little bit of a spoiler, sorry about that, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.320 Like riding shoulder to shoulder on their like grim looking 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.439 war stallions, like towards the cameras, the cameras like I guess, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.280 like on a jeeper the back of a jeep or something, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.600 and it's just like awesome, awesome battle scenes. One of 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.199 the great like noble deaths in recent action history. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.920 And Antonio Bandera, who at this time was just playing 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.720 so many outrageous historical characters he shouldn't have been playing, 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.840 but he was doing a great job at every point. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.080 Here is my one, and I agree with you he 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.520 is playing an Arab man in this. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.199 Yeah, here's the here is the here is my one. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:50.760 Maybe it works, yes, yeah, the you know, the Arab 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.680 conquest of Spain was complete by this time, and it 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.679 was kind of like the pinnacle of as as this 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:04.439 movie makes a lot of hay about. Yeah the tenth century, uh, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:10.520 you know, Arabs were much more scientifically, medically advanced. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.199 And another reason I think this movie didn't do well 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:13.760 because I don't. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.719 I think that's a great point, because you know, it's 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.240 it's it's it's a lot like you know, the Kevin 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.280 Costner Robin Hood. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:24.800 But that was like a side plot. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.080 Like this is the main character is the more advanced guy, 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.720 and he's looking at these Europeans like, you guys are savages? 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.240 What the fuck is going on? Good point? I think 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:33.840 that is why. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:38.560 Yeah, exactly, I think it is possible that like a 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:44.200 guy from Spain could be and like any. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.840 And also, you know what else, at least they didn't 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.920 cost Sean Connery. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:55.080 Okay, up next. If you love the bros. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.960 Being rose energy, my favorite, my favorite. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:02.720 Of Maximus, Juba and Hey from Gladiator just bonding over 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.080 their shared trauma and learning how to how to be 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:11.960 a team, then you're gonna love oh Rome, which aired 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.960 from two thousand and five to two thousand and seven 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.880 and is currently streaming on HBO and. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:16.760 Oh my God. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.960 In the days before Game of Thrones, folks, Little Old 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:27.280 Rome was the most expensive show in the history of television. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.840 I'm telling you, if this show hadn't been made, there 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.480 would be no Game of Thrones, no question. This show 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.920 is so underrated. I'm just sotterly fantastic. Like every time 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.320 somebody actually takes the time to listen to our advice 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.520 and sit down and watch this show. They always come 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.960 back going, oh my god, how did I not know 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.640 this existed? It's so so good. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:51.800 You will get sucked in. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.120 If you like Gladiator, and if you like the Extra 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.000 Division podcast program, you'll likely like Rome. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.440 Yeah, and you've probably heard us talk about it. It's wonderful. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.360 It costs a million zillion bucks. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:09.040 They built these wonderful sets to, you know, create this 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.880 immersive feel that you are in ancient Romes. You watch 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.160 characters move through the streets to the forum. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:14.320 Et cetera. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.760 Bruno Heller, the co creator of the show, talked about 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.560 it being canceled after two seasons. He said this quote, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.880 I discovered halfway through writing the second season, and the 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.440 show is going to end. The second was going to 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.720 end with the death of Brutus, Third and fourth would 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.040 be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.200 Rise of the Messiah in Palestine. But because we got 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:35.920 the heads up that the second season would be it, 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.680 I telescope the third and fourth season into the second season, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.560 which accounts for the blazing speed which which we go 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.280 through history near the end. So that's true by season 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.960 Season one ends on the most absurd high point. 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.760 Yeah. Yeah, it's so so crazy. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:53.240 So good. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:57.000 Season two moves you through like twenty five years of 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.400 Roman history and civil war in ten episod that said, 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.080 and basically it ends with the rise of Augustus to emperor. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.440 That said, well worth your time. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.639 Casting in that is still to this day some of 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.680 the best TV casting. I also think it established the 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.960 notion of almost like a crossover between British historical fiction TV, 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.639 like you know The Tudors, which was really big at 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.439 this time too. That's a great point where it's this 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:30.640 kind of like conversational chamber drama, a little bit scandalous, 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:35.520 a little bit interpersonal, mixed with the huge Spartacus esque 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.600 set pieces and incredible and that obviously became the pre 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.800 cast to Game of Thrones. But this was definitely like, 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.840 my mum loves historical fiction, she loved The Tudors, and 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.359 I got her a box set of this and this 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.600 was definitely one of those shows where I don't think 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.480 she thought she was gonna like it, but it ended 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:52.440 up becoming a fave. 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.360 To your point, I believe that Bruno Heller was the 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:02.640 producer of a series of of BBC programs that were 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:08.520 like historical, uh dramatic reenactments of various moments throughout and 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.080 he has Roman history and then they basically just turned 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:17.520 that into this HBO show. And those reenactments and I 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.640 forget which with the name of them are, but they 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.760 cover various things, including like the Gracchis brothers and other 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.199 moments ancient Roman history are really cool too. You can 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.240 watch those on on YouTube probably. But to your point 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:34.480 about the casting, I mean in Dera varba is niobi. 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:37.440 Oh, I love her. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:42.000 Kevin McKidd who as Lucius Verinus, you know him from 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.720 Gray's of Anatomy and many other things. The late and 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.720 wonderful Ray Stevenson as Titus. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.600 Vernon maybe one of the best time. 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:57.200 He's just truly wonderful. The always nude, full frontal nude. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:58.359 James Purfoy. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.639 I love him. I love so much this guys. 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.800 Loves to show the meat in every role. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.240 He is such a blessing. And guys, I'm gonna tell 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.879 you there's a James Perfoy show that you may be 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.080 never seen. It's not in the context of this. If 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.320 this is also only the first James Perfoy is gonna 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.680 show up again, just in this episode in this list, 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.960 but I will say it's off it's off topic, but 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.840 go watch it. I'm not gonna tell you anything about it. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.000 There is a Kevin Bacon James Perfoy show called The Following, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.439 and you will watch the whole show in like twenty 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.159 four hours. Everyone has ever said it again, nude in it? 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.879 You know what? There are many near nude scenes. I 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.159 believe it was actually I believe it was not like 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.359 an HBO production and was instead a like broadcast TV production. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.119 But still he does get to be sexy and evil, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.880 which is what he loves to do most. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:53.000 James Perfoy is the villain in the recent adaptation Netflix 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:58.240 adptation of Ultra Carbon Hyper Violent UH Future dystopian story 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.000 and guess what, James before gets nude in it. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.040 I think he's just gonna get nude and everything. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.560 He's like, I can do it, baby. It's like it's 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.840 like you know what us Love's James buffact is full 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.920 frontal and the beautiful, very tall six foot lee pace. 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.800 You know, he he doesn't wow, you know what. You know, 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.960 that's just the Internet. You know, that's just the internet. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:24.960 Other wonderful folks in this Rome television program Kuren Hines, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.760 who's gone by to do a million things and to 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.439 Bias Menzies as brutus, like, it's just great. If you 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.080 haven't watched it, you're in. 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:35.440 For a treat. You're gonna like it. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.639 Yeah, and you're gonna like this word from our sponsors. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:55.800 We'll go right back by the work and we're back. Wow. 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.040 And I've been blessed because the next pick is one 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.879 of the best movies ever made. People might not have 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.520 got it at the time, but we get it, we 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.280 get it, and now you know it's a masterpiece. So 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.639 if you like the fact that Gladiator is actually a 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:14.040 sports movie, which it is, lots lots of sporting men competitionally, 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.960 it's lagitmily sports movie, then you've got to watch a 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.000 Night's Tale, which I do think if we're pushed, I 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.959 think this is pushing swords and sandals. We are more 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.440 into that medieval space. But it's but they are. There 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:30.920 are both swords and sandals, So I think we're doing it. 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.080 We're saying it's it, and it is. So this movie 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.560 is so great. Summer two thousand and one, very much 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.199 in the era of like a post kind of you know, 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:44.600 she's all that like the teen movie Craze Ten Things 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.159 I Hate About You, and we get Heath Ledgers William 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.480 who's a peasant pretending to be a knight, and then 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.520 you think, oh, well, you know he's hunky. I love 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.879 Heath Ledger. I'll watch it for that. No, you're gonna 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:01.880 stay because you have Paul Bethany Stealings as Jeffrey Chaucer. 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.400 A gambling addicted Jeffrey Chaucer. 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.200 Who's like a crew as crude and crazy as you 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.080 would think. The man who were at the Canterbury Tales 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.800 was Mark Addie Game of Throne Zone Bobby b. We 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:14.680 also have Alan Tudick. 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.080 Doing we Gotta talk about This. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.600 One of the worst English accents of all time, which 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.440 I think was the point, because this is a man 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.480 who can do a great accent. I think he was 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.600 doing it for fun. Laura Fraser from Breaking Bad and 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:35.639 my own personal very seminal teen crush, Shannon Sosserman, who 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.439 she's so underrated, her in this and her in Forty 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.840 Days of Night, The Really Weird Forty Days and Forty Nights, 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:47.400 The Really Weird Celibacy, Josh hartnet teen Romance. I don't 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.120 know what that was about, but she was very hot 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.840 in that and actor and former drummer in the La 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.479 band Warpaint, and also one of my favorites who were 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.480 about to bring up who is kind of on that 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.719 Perfoy vibe. They're always evil looking rufus Sewell, who's been 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.800 in like every kind of movie looking evil. 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.560 This is like, he's just got an evil look. 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.320 He's just got an evil vibe. He just loves to 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.600 be vibing and being a little bit evil, and he's 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.479 always in a great B movie. This is so funny 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.080 because if you were really like, what is this movie about, 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:24.080 you'd be like, Okay, it's a historical jousting drama that's 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:28.959 also a comedy that is also an achronistic, like musical right, 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:34.560