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Speaker 1: Warning.

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Speaker 2: This episode contains mild spoilers, but pretty concrete spoilers for

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Speaker 2: a variety of swords and sandals movies in film history

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Speaker 2: over the last fifty years, So be warned, be warned.

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Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Spartacus.

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Speaker 2: No, my name is Jason Gczepsio, and I am also Spotacus.

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Speaker 3: I'm also Jason Cacepsio. No, I'm merthday Night, I'm merdy Knight,

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Speaker 3: And welcome back to.

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Speaker 2: Next mention of the podcast where we dive deep into

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Speaker 2: your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Coming to

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Speaker 2: you from My Heart podcast, where we're bringing you three

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Speaker 2: episodes a week every Tuesday Thursday, with extra episodes every Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are exploring some of the best

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Speaker 3: why how much fantastical Swords and Sandals movies in anticipation

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Speaker 3: of gladiat It's two's released this Friday, and how did

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Speaker 3: we pick them? Well, we're recommending the best movies to

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Speaker 3: from Gladiator.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it first, Let's talk about what we

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Speaker 2: mean when we say swords and sandals. This is a

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Speaker 2: film genre popularized in the middle of the twentieth century,

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Speaker 2: and it encompasses movies that are often set in antiquity,

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Speaker 2: that have often biblical themes or Greco Roman hystory Jeo

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Speaker 2: And there are various subgenres here and affect some of

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Speaker 2: it's yeah, yeah, I think it's mostly swords and so

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Speaker 2: and a lot of sandals. But the subgenres here are

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Speaker 2: things like Master and Commander, gladiators and rebelling against their rulers,

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Speaker 2: pirate movies, those kinds of things. Uh, they often contain

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Speaker 3: Yeah, coming up against ambitious rulers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of these epics were shot in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Lots of examples of this in the modern Gladiator, which

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Speaker 3: And successfully I think.

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Speaker 1: And some there's some fun action there.

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Speaker 2: To this break and word from our sponsors, we will

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Speaker 1: Here's the format.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna pitch these movies to you based on things

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Speaker 2: So for instance, you know, if you liked the action

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Speaker 2: if you liked this quote from Lucilla in Gladiator today

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Speaker 2: of Rome. Then you must watch Spartacus from nineteen sixty,

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Speaker 2: an absolute classic. It's Stanley Kubrick. It's slyly subversive for

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite moments from this show.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the I Am Spartacus, which we

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Speaker 1: What's your pick? What's your first pick?

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Speaker 3: Okay? I love that I get to do this one.

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Speaker 3: Ever Heard of It? And director John McTiernan predator Diehard

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Speaker 2: One of the things I thought while rewatching this was

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Speaker 2: able to do this. Laura Frasier is wonderful as like

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Speaker 2: this female armorer who's not respected in the world of armors.

436
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Just a great movie and way better than you think

437
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Speaker 2: it is.

438
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Speaker 1: Just are looking at a still from this movie.

439
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Speaker 3: I think another thing that makes it really enjoyable and

440
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: a reason why I think people will like it if

441
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Speaker 3: they enjoy Gladia, is it has a similar kind of

442
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: framing of like, oh, well, this is a fictional character

443
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: meeting real historical people. Like it's the name is taken

444
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 3: from The Knight's Tale from Chace as Canterbury Tales. They

445
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, James Perfuy is in it, as Edward the

446
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: Black Prince. Obviously Chaucer is in it.

447
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: Does not get nude in this On.

448
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: To Our Hopes and Dreams because it's pg. Thirteen, But

449
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: like it has that fun nature of like, well, what

450
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: if I was just in this time and I could

451
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: meet some famous people, you know, but not in that

452
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: over the overwhelming forest Gump he did everything that was

453
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 3: ever important in history, way more in that kind of

454
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Speaker 3: If you're into the Canterby Tales, if you ever had

455
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Speaker 3: to study it, if you're somebody who likes British history,

456
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: you'll likely catch some fun historical nods. I just I

457
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: really love this movie. I feel like I didn't even

458
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: love it that much when it came out, but now

459
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I am a big proponent of this movie.

460
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: So I'm very glad, and you're a big proponent of

461
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Speaker 3: the next movie.

462
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Speaker 2: Oh, I am specific Kingdom. If if you liked the

463
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Speaker 2: Will They Won't They? Between Maximus?

464
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: Who do that?

465
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: And and you like that, you know, kind of buried

466
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: in a action epic, then you will love Kingdom of Heaven.

467
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: The director's cut, Ridley Scott Director's Cut. Let's take you

468
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: back to the post nine to eleven aughts, in which

469
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 2: far and entertainment would struggle in trying to make sense

470
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: of the era that it found itself in in which

471
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: Islamic extremists apparently had a.

472
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: Beef with America.

473
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: You got always know why you got all these movies

474
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 2: trying to unpack that, and the result was movies like

475
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: the George Clooney vehicle Siriana, which is this very naughty,

476
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: complex kind of bad film that has interesting elements to

477
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: it and will we be feeling depressed? You have an

478
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: absolute like propagandistic movie like The Kingdom that says, so,

479
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: you know, if only we could all join forces, uh,

480
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: you know, the Islamic world and uh and US imperialists

481
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: side by side could take care of this problem. Bad

482
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 2: movie with several good shootouts. And then you've got a

483
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: movie like Kingdom of Heaven that tried that is Ridley

484
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: Scott basically saying, let's go back to the beginning.

485
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Let's go back to it.

486
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go let's go back to the Crusades and

487
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: see where this problem started. Now, of those movies I

488
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 2: just mentioned, only one is worth your time, and it's

489
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: Kingdom of Heaven. And only one version of that movie

490
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: is worth your time is the director's cut. It's just

491
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: a fantastic, uh action set piece, historical drama. You have

492
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: Edward Norton in one of his most underrated roles as

493
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: the leper King of Jerusalem. And then you have two

494
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: people who should have been stars, Rosie.

495
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: Oh, let's talk about it, because this was we actually

496
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: did it. We started recording maybe half an hour later

497
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: that we were supposed to because we were, yeah, being

498
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: about the potential of these stars.

499
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: First will be Eva Green, Well, we'll mention her first

500
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: because we can move all.

501
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: You know, I've seen The Dreamers. I know that movie

502
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: was I yes, she should they made her a bone girl.

503
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: They killed her. She's a bonde girl, but like she

504
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: should have been bigger, she should have been having and

505
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: she had many missed opportunities, the Missus Pereguin's Home for

506
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Odd Children, that was obviously meant to be a franchise

507
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: for her. She just never got the role she was

508
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: supposed to. And I'm a huge stan I'll watch Jenna

509
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: think she's in, but she still hasn't had that breakout

510
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: moment and it was definitely supposed to be post this.

511
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Next is Wow Orlando Bloom.

512
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: Now here is I unveiled my my hair dependency theory.

513
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it to.

514
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Speaker 1: The production team this weekend.

515
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: And here's my theory on what went wrong with Orlando

516
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: Bloom's career. Not that he's not had a nice career.

517
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: He's married Katy Perry, so he's a great friend.

518
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: So very clearly after Lord of the Rings, the guy

519
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: that everybody was betting on to be the star coming

520
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: out of Lord of the Rings was Orlando Bloom.

521
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: Now, the teens loved him.

522
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: The teams loved him. Unfortunately, I think Orlando Bloom made

523
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: one key mistake, and that is he kept taking notable

524
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: roles in which he had to have his hair long.

525
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: Of course, Lord of the Rings you get three movies

526
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: in which, as Legolis, he's got that beautiful long flowing locks.

527
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: He then follows that up with Pirates of the Caribbean,

528
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: in which he's got to have the long flowing locks.

529
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Speaker 1: Then comes Troy, a.

530
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Speaker 3: Movie with long flowing locks.

531
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Speaker 2: And then uh, you know, very sadly comes this movie

532
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: Kingdom of Heaven, long flowing locks. Not to mention the

533
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: various Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, long flowing locks, and

534
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: what happened?

535
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Speaker 1: What happened to Orlando Bloom.

536
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: We reached a point where like Tom Selleck, like a

537
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: clean shaven Tom Selleck or a clean shaven Sam Elliott,

538
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: nobody wants to see it. We only want to see

539
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: Orlando Bloom with long hair. And it continues he deals

540
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: with to this day blowing hair.

541
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Speaker 3: It really is, you know what we need? I think

542
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: for Lana Bloom to get his you know, respect, to

543
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: get his chops, to get recognized, that he to maybe

544
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: let him know he has the juice. He's going to

545
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: do like an Ariasta movie or something. I feel like

546
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: he's got to be like he's going to short hair,

547
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: but Pattenson route and do like a good time but

548
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: with a shaved head.

549
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, I forgot one. I forgot

550
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: in this whole run twenty eleven's the Three Musketeers.

551
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: Long flowing locks locks.

552
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Speaker 2: I just think, you know, when you look at Robert

553
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Pattinson is somebody who I think he did this significently.

554
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: Trap trapped by Brad pitt also who showed up in

555
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: Film and Louise with the with the wonderful like you know,

556
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: abs and hair, Legends of the Fall, grew it all out,

557
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: then shaved it for you know, seven switched it.

558
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: He had a different look. Even Leonardo DiCaprio, you know,

559
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: because he is he was somebody who had the He

560
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: had the curtains right, and that was like, you've got

561
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: to have them. He has it in Romeo and Juliet,

562
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: he has it in Titanic, but then he does Man

563
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: in the Iron mask, and he has a long flowing

564
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: locks wig, but his other character's short hair, and suddenly

565
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: he's mixed out. He's not stuck anymore smart the Curtains lifestyle.

566
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: I do believe the Orlando Bloom has been hampered by

567
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: his long flowing locks. And I say this because I

568
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: am a Tom Selik Stan I love magnum p I.

569
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: But you're right. Nobody's nobody wants and nobody wanted to

570
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: see Indiana Jones with a mustache.

571
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to see that. And he was trapped man.

572
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: Sadly, Selik was, could not, you know, do anything. The

573
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: only like quickly down Under is like an Australian Western

574
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: where he's able to have the mustache is like the

575
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: only hey he could make.

576
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: It's like Chicago Fire where he can.

577
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: He looks years of twenty years of blue Bloods.

578
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: Because cops can have mustaches, Jason, And guess what we know,

579
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: still rocking that thing, still rocking it, baby. And you

580
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: know what, the aunties, the grannies, they still love him.

581
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: They do maybe and maybe in the future Orlando Bloom

582
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: will be on a long time procedural with long flowing locks,

583
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: and we'll be eating our words. Because he'll be getting

584
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars an episode.

585
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Look at the stills. If you haven't seen the movie

586
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Grand Turismo, Oh twenty twenty three.

587
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: Look at based on a true story.

588
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Look at Orlando Bloom in that movie with the with

589
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: the below the ears hair that clearly they were like,

590
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: he listen, Orlando, don't do that locks.

591
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: Don't you dare show.

592
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: Up as his film without your co star the long

593
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: flowing line looks.

594
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: They were like even in this driving movie Grand Tarismo

595
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: based on a true story, which is a full and

596
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: me and my friends were assessed with the fact that

597
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: was the full title from a real story based on

598
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: a guy who was a videot professional video gamer who

599
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: then got to race in real racing. Unbelievably strange turn

600
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: of events to make that your official Grand Tarismo movie.

601
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 3: But yes, Orlana Bloom was there with his long flowing locks.

602
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: He could have been a star. If the only cut

603
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: his hair cut off that hair.

604
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: He could have better stuff. Yeah. Maybe when the new

605
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: Peter Jackson movies come, maybe he's gonna be brought brackets

606
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: legal us. He's looking youngster. They maybe they're gonna put

607
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: him back in those long flowing locks wigs and it

608
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: will will be in our words next Okay, So this

609
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: one is very close to my heart because I am

610
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: a big fan of this director. If you liked the

611
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: overstylized cinematography and like beautiful theatricality of like the rose

612
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: petals falling in the final battle, which always kind of

613
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: takes my breath away because it's very unrealistic and just fantastic.

614
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: And from what we've heard about Gladiator too is continued

615
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: over in the new movie, So very excited for that.

616
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: You got to check out Immortal by Tarsem Singh. Now,

617
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: this is definitely a Vibes movie because Tarsem is a

618
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: Vibes director, after his two thousand horror classic The Cell

619
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: starring Jennifer Lopez and his two thousand and six masterpiece

620
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: The Fall, which I have to say is currently in

621
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: theaters for the first time in like twenty years. So

622
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: just go and see it. You don't need to know

623
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: what it's about. It's got Lee pace in it. It's

624
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: one of the best movies ever made. Tarsem then was

625
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: like successful enough to kind of go for Hollywood with

626
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: a high budget fantasy take on Grecian Roman mythology. It

627
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: has like an unbelievably stacked cast, so you know that

628
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 3: they thought that this was going to be super popular.

629
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: Henry Carvill, Luke Evans, one of my favorites, John Hurt,

630
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: Kellen Lutz, FRIEDA. Pinto, and Mickey Watt. Also Stephen Dorf,

631
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: who look, you might be like, oh Stephendorf, but that

632
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: man was in Blade, which really launched the MCU, so

633
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: he always gets an extra shout out for me. They

634
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: did Short Steve Short, King Loves Steven. This movie is

635
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: not Sing's masterpiece by any realm of experience, because his

636
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: other films have so much more freedom and strangeness. But

637
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: if you like vibe visuals and you just want to

638
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: like watch a movie where you're gonna see unexpectedly beautiful,

639
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: strange cinematography and unbelievable use of color, fantastic production, besignd,

640
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: this is the movie to watch in this realm.

641
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: When I think of Tarzan Sing, I think, of course,

642
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: those extremely trippy, melty, unforgettable visuals, and I also think

643
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: of like the color palette, which is yeah, is it

644
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: feels like this is obviously going to be an oversavment

645
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: what I'm about to say, But it feels like you're

646
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: looking at a epic painting. The colors are where the

647
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: colors are so saturated and kind of on the darker

648
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: side of the luminescence.

649
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: The blacks are so black.

650
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: And everything feels there's a depth to it, but it

651
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: feels like you're watching something in two D. You're watching

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Speaker 2: flat action like a painting. I just love the way

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Speaker 2: his films.

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Speaker 3: Look in The Fall, which is at least partially Swords

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Speaker 3: and Sandals inspired, so I would say we can. But

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Speaker 3: in that I mean the joke used to be that

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Speaker 3: if you were lucky enough to have a copy of

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Speaker 3: the DVD, which was out of print for many many

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Speaker 3: years but is now streaming on movie and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: with a new four K restoration there will be a

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Speaker 3: physical release, you could pause it at any moment and

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Speaker 3: it looked like you were watching a paint. You were

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Speaker 3: looking at a painting. Like his work on his color work,

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Speaker 3: his cinematography. He is truly I think a master, and

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Speaker 3: Immortals is like a very interesting space of what happens

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Speaker 3: when you take someone like that and you put them

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Speaker 3: in the Hollywood system rather than just letting them kind

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Speaker 3: of fight it out on their own, but yeah, great

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Speaker 3: weird addition and definitely I think a very fun to

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Speaker 3: see an entry to the swords and sandals genre, which

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Jason, what are the other underrated

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Speaker 3: or notable swords and sandals movies that we didn't hit

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Speaker 3: on here because they didn't fit into our kind of

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Speaker 3: hilarious way of putting this together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if if you're listening to this, you're

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Speaker 2: you're you might be saying, hey, what about this movie?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I think we wanted to pick movies

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Speaker 2: that maybe maybe you haven't seen. Maybe you haven't seen

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Speaker 2: this movie, like why didn't we talk about three hundred?

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Speaker 1: Three hundred was a massive hit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and change the belief for a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: and you've changed the game.

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Speaker 2: You've probably seen it. I will say that I kind

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Speaker 2: of like three hundred except for the the the the bad,

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00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: like racial politics of this movie, where like all the

686
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: good guys are white and all the bad guys are brown.

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Speaker 3: Not realistic, but you know what, g butts, we love him.

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00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: And also as well, it's very homo erotic, so that's

689
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Speaker 3: like it's not a mean is it's not amazing.

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Speaker 2: The most homo erotic action movie that has been released

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 3: To me, I'm like, I'm not I'm not a three hundred.

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Speaker 3: I'm not three hundred super fan. But if somebody is like,

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Speaker 3: let's watch three hundred, I'll be like, I can look

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Speaker 3: through the problematic aspects because it's Gerald Butler and it's

696
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Speaker 3: homo erotic, which to me is to.

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Speaker 2: This guys getting greased up and like doing it up,

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Speaker 2: like do it like crunches all the time.

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Speaker 3: The way that it avoids the realities of Spartan men

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Speaker 3: being gay, which is like a very obvious historical thing

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Speaker 3: that's been you know, looked at for many hundreds of

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Speaker 3: years and thousands of years in history, it makes it

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Speaker 3: more gay, which is like repression, and the homo eroticism

704
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Speaker 3: is there. So you know what, we didn't talk about it,

705
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: but that's because you've already seen it and it was

706
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Speaker 3: a huge success and it launched that exit his career,

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Speaker 3: so good for him.

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Speaker 2: The same with Braveheart, which is directed which is a

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Speaker 2: I think a really good movie that you've probably seen

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Speaker 2: that's direct by a person that is terrible Style Gibson

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00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: and starring a person's terrible and you've seen the movie

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Speaker 2: probably which contains some of I think the greatest medieval

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Speaker 2: action scenes that you'll ever see in a movie directed

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Speaker 2: by a terrible person. Yeah, why didn't you talk about

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Speaker 2: ben her Good?

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Speaker 1: This is a notable one. Why are we talking?

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Speaker 2: I've just never been whether it's the the more recent

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Speaker 2: remake or the classic original, which I think is from

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Speaker 2: sixty or fifty nine or something starring Charlton Heston.

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Speaker 1: It's just too overtly.

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Speaker 3: Jesusy for me, like very religi, big religious overtones in

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Speaker 3: that movie, and.

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Speaker 2: I've never been The chariot scenes are great, but like,

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Speaker 2: I've never been a ben her guy.

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Speaker 3: I also feel like, if you're our age like it was,

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Speaker 3: ben HAIs one of those oversaturated movies that they always

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Speaker 3: tell you to watch, that like if it's a faster times,

728
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Speaker 3: always on a time that if you film, they're like,

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00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: you gotta watch it. Action's great, True, but you guys

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Speaker 3: have already had about it. You already knew about it.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're out here recommending the Weirdow choices.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you pick if okay, okay, Rosie and Jason

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Speaker 2: Weirdo picks, then why didn't you pick the Channing Tatum

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Speaker 2: vehicle from twenty eleven, The Eagle.

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Speaker 3: This is a great question. I will say that's a

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Speaker 3: good movie. Actually did this one almost made the list,

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Speaker 3: So Jason List talk about The Eagle momentarily.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eleven The Eagle. Channing Tatum is a Roman centurion

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Speaker 2: posted on Hadrian's Wall at the edge of the empire.

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Speaker 1: It's at the border of you.

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Speaker 2: Know, England and Scotland, although those nations did not exist

742
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Speaker 2: at the time, and he's having a deal with this

743
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Speaker 2: influx of Pictish warriors who have stolen his eagle and ambushed.

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Speaker 2: This meant and I'll say this, Janitatum. When I saw

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Speaker 2: this movie in twenty eleven when it came out, surprised

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Speaker 2: me with this movie because I was like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Chanitatum, he's like a good acta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like his accent is passable, his acting is really

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Speaker 2: good and this the action is wonderful.

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Speaker 1: This is a good movie.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry he didn't make the list, but we

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Speaker 2: liked the other ones better for it.

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Speaker 1: But that's a good movie. The Eagle.

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Speaker 3: Incredible cast to Jamie Bell, Donald Sutherland, Jamie Strong, Tier

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Speaker 3: Ryan who I love who is in this incredible movie

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00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: called The prophet also in Madam Ware Hilariously that was

757
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: a strange choice for him, But yeah, this is a

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00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: fantastic cast, also very practical movie. That's actually why I

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Speaker 3: went to see it, because there's this kind of march

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Speaker 3: that they do. They had lots and lots of extras,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, this is a weirder choice. Also what was

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Speaker 3: going on in twenty eleven that they had this and

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Speaker 3: immortals at the same time. That's very very deep impact

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Speaker 3: armageddon of them.

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Speaker 2: Them And then you might say, okay, what about The

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Speaker 2: King twenty nineteen for Netflix, story thing.

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Speaker 3: From Pattinson and Timmy Chamalay.

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Speaker 1: Into wonderful roles by.

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Speaker 3: The Australia some weird stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the hardcore Australian director David Michaude, who I

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00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: love Ben Mendelsson seemingly in every single DA showed movie

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Speaker 2: that said, Uh, I like The King. I think that Chalomey.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm a schalome fan. I think he's good.

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Speaker 2: I liked him in almost everything he's done, whether or

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Speaker 2: not I like the movie, and I think that to

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Speaker 2: your point, Pattinson as the French King, the French Prince,

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Speaker 2: I forget. Yeah, he's the French air to the throne

778
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Speaker 2: whatever the case is so good and weird in this,

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Speaker 2: Like there's various points where the French king and Chalomey

780
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Speaker 2: like have these like head to head like but like

781
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Speaker 2: meetings where they talk about it you surrender me no,

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Speaker 2: you know, And it's just Patterson is so good as

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Speaker 2: the bad guy in this.

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Speaker 1: I can't recommend that highly enough. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's mostly a political intrigue movie, yes, or like a

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Speaker 3: royal intrigue movie. So I think that was why it

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Speaker 3: didn't fully make it.

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Speaker 2: Also, I will say, and we would, we would only

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Speaker 2: we could only put like one medieval thing in there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I want to say, what it speaking of hair,

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Speaker 3: what are the over unders on Timmy shallow May's future

792
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Speaker 3: because he does always have the curly locks, and in

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Speaker 3: the new movie that he's in where he is playing

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Speaker 3: Bob Dylan, I feel like they were like, he's gotta

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Speaker 3: have curly locks, so let's have him play Bob Dylan.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, is he gonna be trapped in the

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Speaker 3: curly locks? Even Willy Wonka is Willy want had curly locks? Like,

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Speaker 3: is he gonna keep them or is he gonna veer

799
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Speaker 3: to what Is he gonna get like a shaved head?

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna try and break out of curly locks?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good note. And I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: Chalmy's got to have a beard in a movie soon.

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Speaker 3: Can he grow a bit?

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Speaker 1: We got to see we can we can paste something.

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Speaker 2: Little spirit gum on there. But I think we need

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Speaker 2: that big. I do think that we're we're almost at

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Speaker 2: like full saturation of Timmy face card like in popular culture.

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Speaker 2: I think to your point, the hair is the hair

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Speaker 2: in the face together. We might need to patent sit

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Speaker 2: it up, switch it up a little bit, because I

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Speaker 2: do think we might be getting there with Tim who again,

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Speaker 2: I am a fan.

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Speaker 3: Of me too, big fan.

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Speaker 2: It was great And since you mentioned the Bob Dylan thing,

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Speaker 2: that looks fucking bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: Trailer felt like SNL like one of his appearances on SNL.

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Speaker 1: I was a little concerned me too.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked because I feel like Bob Dylan, Timothy shallow May.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that feels like it should be a

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Speaker 3: kind of Indie Dolling Can movie. But I will also say, guys,

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Speaker 3: Bob Dylan, we've had the perennial Bob Dylan like biopic

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Speaker 3: already done with like ten of the most famous actors

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Speaker 3: of all time. It was a game change are in

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Speaker 3: the way movies were made. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: need to do it again, but you know what, good

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Speaker 3: luck to me because I think you're always making me laugh.

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Speaker 3: I love that you showed up to your own lookalike competition.

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Speaker 3: You got good humor and honestly, like, I'm sure you'll

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Speaker 3: be fine.

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Speaker 2: I wish, I wish, I wish you, I wish you

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Speaker 2: the best, and I wish our audience the best. As

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Speaker 2: as we wrap up this culmination of Sword and Sandel's

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Speaker 2: movie recommendations that have been inspired by Gladiator, on the

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Speaker 2: next episode of x ray Vision, we're diving into Gladiator two.

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Speaker 1: Here and go, Here we go.

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Speaker 3: I want to see the Sharks in the coliseum.

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Speaker 2: Show me the Sharks. Wrigley Scott, you crazy man crazy.

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Speaker 2: And Tuesday we're doing our Canes series final. It's already

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Speaker 2: it's already over, folks. And Wednesday it's Dune Prophecy episode two.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 2: X ray Vision hosted by Jason Consumpsion and Rosie Knight

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Speaker 2: and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers

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Speaker 2: are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is

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Speaker 2: a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent.

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Speaker 1: And Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Laude, Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 3: and Heidi. Our disco moderata