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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julie Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation

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Speaker 2: highlight reels starting now now.

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Speaker 3: Matt Patricia on Malcolm Butler's Super Bowl ceiling interception.

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Speaker 2: Can you walk us through the Malcolm Butler Yeah situation,

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Speaker 2: the interception in fourteen on the Super Bowl, that whole

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Speaker 2: sequence of plays and what do you got on that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So obviously you're talking about great games, and certainly the

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Speaker 5: eleven Baltimore team and the why and all of it.

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Speaker 4: That's why I love that one.

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Speaker 5: And obviously you so I thought that'd be a great one.

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Speaker 5: But you know these the fourteen game, the sixteen game,

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Speaker 5: you know, the Super Bowl. There's there's some crazy, crazy

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Speaker 5: stuff that just happened in those games. And the thing

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Speaker 5: about the fourteen Super Bowl with Seattle. So going back

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Speaker 5: to around this time, really when I took over the

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Speaker 5: defense eleven and ten, Bill would come to me every

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Speaker 5: training camp and again in the Bible, I had all

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Speaker 5: the calls, and he'd be like, Hey, it's like we

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Speaker 5: really every training game, Hey, when are we putting goal

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Speaker 5: line three corner in? And I'd be like, yeah, like

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Speaker 5: we gotta get that in. We gotta get that I'm like,

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Speaker 5: we're never gonna run goal line three corner, like it's

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Speaker 5: eleven personnel, Like I'm not doing it, like they're gonna throw,

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Speaker 5: like it's just the whole thing. So for years I

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Speaker 5: was like, yeah, it's going at like we never got

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Speaker 5: it in. So as soon as we win the championship

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Speaker 5: game and I'm like, I knew we were playing Seattle

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Speaker 5: and walked into the defensive staff from I go, you're

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Speaker 5: not gonna believe I'm about to say, and they're like what,

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, we got to put goal line three

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Speaker 5: corner in And I'm like, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, we're gonna need this call in this game.

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Speaker 5: I'm just telling you, like, we can't. We can't go

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Speaker 5: eleven personnel and not have as much mass on the field.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, we got to figure this out. So I

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Speaker 5: knew like that Monday and everyone was like, there's no

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Speaker 5: way you're gonna call this, and I'm like, I'm just

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Speaker 5: telling you we're gonna need this call, so start drawing

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Speaker 5: it up going through the car.

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Speaker 1: I think you need the call because I.

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Speaker 4: Knew that no one need see it. We hadn't run it.

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Speaker 6: We hadn't run this call, might need that call.

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Speaker 5: Just eleven personnel inside the three yard line trying to

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Speaker 5: be able to stop Lynch the quarterback run game, the

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Speaker 5: receivers that are on the field if you were going

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Speaker 5: to go sub defense on the two yard line, Like.

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Speaker 4: Just too much space, there's just too much space. Like

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Speaker 4: he's just he's too good.

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Speaker 5: Remember, like I played Lynch for a lot of years

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Speaker 5: when he was at Buffalo, Like my happiest day when

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Speaker 5: Buffalo sent him Seattle. I was like thank like send

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Speaker 5: flowers to Buffalo, like you get him out because this

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Speaker 5: guy is unstoppable.

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Speaker 4: I'm like that guy was so good.

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Speaker 1: So good.

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Speaker 5: So we I just needed to have enough size to

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Speaker 5: stop the line of scrimmage from moving. And I couldn't

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Speaker 5: give up any space. And I also knew that no

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Speaker 5: one had seen it and it was going to be

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Speaker 5: one of those calls where I was gonna make them panic,

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Speaker 5: like they were gonna panic. I wasn't sure what they're

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Speaker 5: a check, which they did. We knew we'd kind of

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Speaker 5: get him into that throw the Rubb route, so we

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Speaker 5: get I draw it all up, I get it.

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Speaker 4: Ready to go. We go down.

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Speaker 5: I remember we practiced like three days before we leave,

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Speaker 5: and then we go and I kind of told everybody,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, look, we're gonna put this in as soon

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Speaker 5: kind of my problem solving. I wasn't gonna give it

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Speaker 5: to the guys and then change it. So we get

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Speaker 5: down to Arizona, and you know, I put it in

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Speaker 4: We practiced it.

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Speaker 5: Now, we ran that pick route, we ran it like

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Speaker 5: and of course, of course they're into the cards, but

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Speaker 5: is voices. We did, and the thing was everybody saw

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Speaker 4: We ran all the combinations.

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Speaker 5: So we get into the game or we get we

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Speaker 5: I looked at it and I was like, I don't

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Speaker 5: you know. I switched Jamie, I switched him, I switched High.

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Speaker 5: was like, all right, because it was really about stopping

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Speaker 5: really the combination with it to that side was the

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Speaker 5: because we knew what that was so practice. It changed

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Speaker 5: it at the last minute and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 5: like it's ready, we're gonna I'm gonna need this. And

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Speaker 5: it's literally written, it's like three letters in the bottom

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Speaker 5: right hand corner of the call sheet.

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Speaker 4: It's like the most tiniest call on the sheet.

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Speaker 5: So beginning of the game, we had talked about how

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Speaker 5: tough this game was going to be. The first play

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Speaker 5: of the game is my favorite play of the game.

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Speaker 5: Like you watched the defensive guys because we knew their

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Speaker 5: offensive line looked to clean clean the pile. So as

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Speaker 5: soon as Lunch got the ball, they were coming to

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Speaker 5: take people out. And I was like, look, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: I'm like, but as soon as he's down, everybody else

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Speaker 5: go find someone, Go find someone, and go knock their

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Speaker 5: to the point of like one of my favorite compliments

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Speaker 5: of all time, and it was probably in the twelve

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Speaker 5: eer was Chris Berman, who's great guy, great friend, came

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Speaker 5: up to me and he goes, he said to me,

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Speaker 5: he goes, you have the best tackling corners in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, if our corners tackled at a high level,

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Speaker 5: just I took so much pride in that. So in

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Speaker 5: to get like one of the biggest linemen. You know,

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Speaker 5: the tackles they had that's coming. It's I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 5: we get into the second half and you know, going

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Speaker 5: into halftime, we were struggling with some coverage matches, right and.

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Speaker 4: They scored right before half. I was I was hot,

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Speaker 1: This was bad.

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Speaker 5: There's a bad series of bad play. So I am literally,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm I'm, I'm like, we're changing, like I'm

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Speaker 4: Malcolm is gonna come in the whole deal.

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Speaker 5: So get into the second half and they have It

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Speaker 5: was kind of back and forth right like they were moving,

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Speaker 5: we were moving. It was like, you know, the defenses

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Speaker 5: You know, if you can control it early, you have chance.

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Speaker 5: But you know, if you're playing like those games are long,

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Speaker 5: and if you're moving the ball ear in the first half,

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Speaker 5: the second half, you're worried about, you know, how well

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Speaker 5: is the defense gonna hold up.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be, you know, be a shootout. So both

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Speaker 5: Ball and I was like, ah, man, this is this

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Speaker 4: Third and two.

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Speaker 5: So I call I call call one of our one

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Speaker 5: of the stackbacker left. So the idea of the call

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Speaker 5: and he's gonna take out Lynch, and then the backer's

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Speaker 4: So call stackbacker left third and two.

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Speaker 5: Rob goes in and nails Lynch and we stop them

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Speaker 4: Lynch like that's pretty So I'm.

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Speaker 5: Like, Okay, that's gonna change what they're gonna that's gonna

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Speaker 5: last drive they hit. You know, they're coming down hit

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Speaker 5: the big play down the far sideline. It's on the

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Speaker 5: opposite side the rule chain, you know. Doron jumps over

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Speaker 5: the pile, it falls, he catches it. Now again, I'm

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Speaker 5: sitting here twenty fourteen, seven years later in the same

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Speaker 4: I was like, I was a.

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Speaker 1: I was on the scene.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the scene where he tipped it and

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Speaker 2: curse ended up Malcolm.

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Speaker 4: Malcolm's great, there's a great play.

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Speaker 5: That Malcolm makes on a third down earlier, where he

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Speaker 5: I click into High. I'm like, they're going to run it,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, they're gonna run it. We were stuck in

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Speaker 5: Unbelievablet tackle. One of them hits him down. So now

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Speaker 5: know the call I want to make. I'm hearing eleven

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Speaker 5: And he's staring. He's just staring across the field and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, Bill, I'm like, are you calling the time out?

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Speaker 5: I go, I need to know because I'm not putting

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Speaker 4: Get it out.

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Speaker 5: Make sure we got Malcolm. So like they're all I'm

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Speaker 5: So that was the matchups that we did. But when

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Speaker 5: And if you watch the play, Browner's he's literally got

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Speaker 4: He cracks my back.

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Speaker 5: zone is the Seattle mascot. It's my favorite thing in

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Speaker 5: Okay, back the hands, think Lynch, we're about to like

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Speaker 4: He's just standing there. It's amazing. But you know what's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's not the first time a coach has has pointed out, Ah.

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Speaker 5: We watched the stands all the time because they watched

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Speaker 4: Every year I would watch this dude.

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Speaker 5: Every year. There's a guy in Buffalo and every scoreboard

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Speaker 5: But that was that play, how that was put together,

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Speaker 5: it does we need it?

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have it right now and put that in

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Speaker 5: And honestly, that whole defensive year like give that like

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter where you are when it is. Anybody

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Speaker 4: And like, you know, like the whole deal.

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Speaker 4: Time, it was just one of those moments in life

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just like, here we go.

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Speaker 2: After we scored that touchdown, I remember, that's that's when

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Speaker 9: You're like, no, no, no, yeah, that's what you said.

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Speaker 10: I watched this morning. It was gonna be you.

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Speaker 8: But Dola was like saying he was playing a man coverage,

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Speaker 10: Was trying to call you off when you were in motion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Can we go into the second time I threw

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Speaker 1: the football.

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Speaker 11: Twenty nineteen in Philly, Philly.

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Speaker 10: Juice's story, his side.

436
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Speaker 6: Love to hear your side. I don't know if my

437
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Speaker 6: memories really fucked.

438
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,639
Speaker 10: Up the night before the game. This is the story.

439
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we well this wasn't the same play. No,

440
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,800
Speaker 8: it's a different play. Throw it here, throw it back

441
00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,760
Speaker 8: and set up the catch and run.

442
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,960
Speaker 9: And in the we we.

443
00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,199
Speaker 8: Always did like a little ballroom, which always felt like

444
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,000
Speaker 8: you guys loved that.

445
00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:55,560
Speaker 10: I loved it.

446
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,400
Speaker 6: Reiterate.

447
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Speaker 8: It was almost like a very comforting feeling when you

448
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,560
Speaker 8: walked out of there, like we all study.

449
00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,199
Speaker 10: We all got it.

450
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, we all got it. And it was loose and

451
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 8: and so.

452
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,680
Speaker 6: But it wasn't always loose depending on like the games.

453
00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,879
Speaker 6: Sometimes we go in there running hard and stuff.

454
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Speaker 8: I no, but that was that was But I don't

455
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Speaker 8: think we ever went in there like. It wasn't like

456
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Speaker 8: a big like it wasn't like a big like teaching

457
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,680
Speaker 8: session at all. It was I would I would call

458
00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,960
Speaker 8: the play, you guys would get on with you would

459
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Speaker 8: do it and walk through it, and that was it.

460
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Speaker 2: But if you had like a new player coming in

461
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Speaker 2: that had a big role, that was different, you know,

462
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Speaker 2: like if he was nervous and we were all.

463
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Speaker 1: Kind of watching them too as well.

464
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Speaker 8: And Julian Julian, well, I'll tell him to tell two

465
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Speaker 8: stories quickly. The when he came back in two thousand eighteen,

466
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Speaker 8: eighteen eighteen. Okay, So the walkthrough because we played on

467
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Speaker 8: a Thursday night, so we didn't have practice.

468
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Speaker 9: I didn't have any practice that week because it's just

469
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,720
Speaker 9: walk throughs.

470
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Speaker 6: Well had no he does.

471
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Speaker 8: He does the hotel like walk through and he's soaked

472
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Speaker 8: because he's like running routes in the ball like but.

473
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Speaker 9: Nobody else.

474
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Speaker 8: And Tom always had like a little lacrosseball and he

475
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,159
Speaker 8: would bounce it to you to like show you. And

476
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 8: Julian is literally like you could see everything like he

477
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 8: was just drenched, and I remember the other guys were

478
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 8: like looking at him, like what is going on with

479
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 8: this guy. I'm like, yeah, he's a little he's he's

480
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 8: obsessive compulsive right now. I think he needs to play

481
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,439
Speaker 8: a game, is what I need? Dot up a wheel

482
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 8: for you in the first possession, hey walk through. So

483
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 8: so anyway, the Philly So the Philly game was the

484
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 8: second throw that night in the hotel. The night before

485
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 8: the game, we go walk through it, Tom dribbled bounce

486
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 8: to the ball to Julian. Julian gets the ball and

487
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 8: then he looks, he looks and throws it to phil

488
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 8: Bill just wandering up the field trying to get at

489
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 8: the defense to come this way, and Philly catches it.

490
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 9: And I look at him and I'm like.

491
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Speaker 1: You know, you can do that, just throw the ball over.

492
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 6: Throw the ball.

493
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Speaker 8: And I think we actually did it again, just so

494
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 8: he so he would like, do it right, you know

495
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 8: what I mean.

496
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Speaker 10: And then we get in the.

497
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 8: Game and he gets the ball and he looks down

498
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 8: the field and Philly's open, and then he lets it

499
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Speaker 8: go and I'm just like and then he caught it,

500
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 8: and I'm like, I don't know. Those are the ones

501
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 8: that's coaches where you're just like, that's a hell of

502
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 8: a play.

503
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 7: Figures.

504
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: If I would have flip my hipsky was my face,

505
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 2: I would have got you got you did get I

506
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 2: got drilled.

507
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 10: He got drilled, drilled.

508
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 6: I come run off.

509
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: When I come run off, You're fucking dangerous, dude, You

510
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: are dangerous.

511
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Speaker 1: You're dangerous.

512
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Speaker 8: But that was all I remember, because you were the

513
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 8: only one that threw a touchdown past that game.

514
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 7: Oh yeah.

515
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Speaker 8: So I remember like like and then he would come

516
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 8: in the next day and he would put ice. He

517
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 8: would have his shoulder wrapped in ice in the and

518
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 8: he would sit in the front, you know by but

519
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 8: like you I gotta you know, I always come in

520
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 8: like the last person to come in to wait.

521
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Speaker 6: He would just be like, I'm like, coach, you got

522
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 6: the door.

523
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 10: Don't worry.

524
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Speaker 1: You got that.

525
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 6: I said that.

526
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: The trade staff called the ice fed in front of

527
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: everyone looking like you just threw a complete game shutout.

528
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, literally, like it's Randy Johnson after a nine inning.

529
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Speaker 11: Oh my, I will say that pass your dangerous Maverick

530
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 11: moment in Philly.

531
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Speaker 3: Put jewels at five of six one hundred and forty

532
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 3: one yards and two tds as a passer.

533
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: There you go.

534
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 9: Was his reading had to be exceptional.

535
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 11: That had to be amazing.

536
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

537
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: We had the one in the Super Bowl to Dion

538
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 2: Oh man, he was close to it.

539
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: He almost made that.

540
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 10: He almost made that catch.

541
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Speaker 1: That was it. I shouldn't have thrown it.

542
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Speaker 10: That was nuts.

543
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: What you mean was he open?

544
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 6: You know?

545
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: He got him?

546
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 8: It was like, just buy him. The guy did a

547
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 8: good job of peeling on it. Yeah, but the rest

548
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 8: of the defense was over there.

549
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 10: That game was a blur point three.

550
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Speaker 1: That's that's perfect.

551
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 10: Perfect, that's perfect.

552
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: Someone say, that's pretty good. Bone said.

553
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Speaker 8: The loudest I've ever heard that stadium was when you

554
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 8: threw the double pass and scored that. I've never heard

555
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 8: that stadium. That stadium has been loud a number of times. Yeah,

556
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 8: in our lives. Yeah, that was the loudest noise that

557
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 8: I personally had heard, like because it was almost like,

558
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 8: you know, like we we came back once, then we're

559
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 8: down two touches and so they're like, oh no, not again.

560
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 8: Then we come back again, and and to do it

561
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 8: that way with you hitting dance. I mean, that was

562
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 8: as noisy as I think I can ever remember.

563
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 6: That was.

564
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: That was a fun that was a fun play, but

565
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't over so well.

566
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Speaker 10: Before we do that, we let we have players on.

567
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 12: We like to walk through like a specific moment, jenneral

568
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 12: from the big Game. We've heard Jules's perspective, We've heard

569
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 12: Danny mcdola's perspective of that play. I love to hear

570
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 12: your like, beat by beat perspective of that double pass play.

571
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Speaker 8: So down seven, then they punted, got the ball back.

572
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 8: I remember it was ready and I had already checked

573
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Speaker 8: with Bill, you know, like we're good. He goes whenever

574
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 8: you know, whatever you want to do it, I'm good,

575
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 8: and you know, because I always felt like whenever you're

576
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 8: running something, it's a little bit screwy, you know, just

577
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 8: you better check with your big boss and make sure

578
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 8: that you're you're not doing it. And he doesn't want

579
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 8: you to like fake punts, and you know, so he

580
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 8: was he already signed off whenever you want to do it,

581
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 8: and I just didn't feel right about doing it, not

582
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 8: like I wanted to get a first down and then

583
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Speaker 8: do it.

584
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I didn't want to do it like the first

585
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 10: play of the drive.

586
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 8: I didn't want to do it on second and eight,

587
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 8: like after the first play of the drive. I wanted to, like,

588
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 8: can we get a first down and then once we

589
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 8: get the first down, let's try it, you know what

590
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 8: I mean.

591
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 10: And so we did.

592
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 8: We got a first down, and then I think it

593
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 8: was right around midfield and it was kind of the

594
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 8: right time to do it, and Dean acquiesced.

595
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 10: He brought the star blitz off the side that we

596
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 10: threw the ball to.

597
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 8: He gave us We didn't know we were going to

598
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,239
Speaker 8: get that, but it made the play better because we

599
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 8: only had one guy out there that we needed to

600
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 8: block and it wasn't too and so was that gronk

601
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 8: out there? I think it was gronk out there. And

602
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 8: then Danny did a good job of hesitating and going by.

603
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 8: But you know, after I asked him if he needed

604
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 8: any lead time, he said no, Bill had already you know,

605
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 8: signed off on the whole thing, and I just really

606
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 8: wanted to get a first down, so it wasn't so

607
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 8: like almost like desperate, like we got to try this

608
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 8: right off the bat, you.

609
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

610
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 8: I wanted to, yeah, get a little get a little

611
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 8: bit of a momentum going in the drive and then

612
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 8: give ourselves a chance to see if we could hit it.

613
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 9: So and it was perfect because it was on our sideline.

614
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 9: I love doing those things when they're on your sideline.

615
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: So when you're seeing when I'm going over emotion, what's

616
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: going through your mind?

617
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 10: It's not man.

618
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 8: And then when I saw the guy start to creep

619
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 8: in and he was gonna blitz, I'm like, I don't know,

620
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 8: we couldn't have drawn up a better like them, playing

621
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 8: a better defense for the play. It was really just

622
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 8: gonna matter whether the corner bit it or he didn't,

623
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 8: and you know, Danny did a good job of bluffing

624
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 8: it and then went by.

625
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 12: You mentioned, you know, want to do a play like

626
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 12: that after first down and doing it on your own sideline?

627
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 10: These little details?

628
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 11: Is that like the factor room with your play calling?

629
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 11: Is that innate?

630
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 10: Is that something with reps?

631
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 12: Like where do you pick up those little details when

632
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 12: it comes into your crafts of play call?

633
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 8: I think it's just probably experience, you know. I don't

634
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 8: like I think when you're coming off the sideline and

635
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 8: like the defense is kind of ready for almost anything,

636
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 8: you know, Like, I don't think that's a great time

637
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 8: to like spring your craziest play on them all the time.

638
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 8: I think it's almost like you run a play, you

639
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 8: run a second play. Oh you got a first down.

640
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 8: So they're kind of like, all right, they're just driving

641
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 8: the ball. They're just trying to do the same stuff

642
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 8: they've been doing, you know, throwing the ball here, dink

643
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 8: and dunk, which is what I wanted them to be thinking.

644
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 8: And they got So we get a first down and

645
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 8: we're into a drive. The defensive coordinator he knows we're

646
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 8: not going fast. He's into his drive now, you know

647
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 8: what I mean, meaning meaning Deans. You know, you kind

648
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 8: of get into a rhythm of the drive itself.

649
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 10: Each drive is.

650
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 8: Different, and so we first down, play huddle, second down,

651
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 8: play first down, go back to the huddle, you know

652
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 8: what I mean. So now Dean's in his rhythm too,

653
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 8: and so again the it just I thought that was

654
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 8: a better way to do it, honestly, then go out.

655
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 10: There and be desperate and try to hurry up and

656
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 10: get to it.

657
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: And you know, people don't realize these you know, I

658
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 2: don't know how it's in other places, but here's a

659
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: department that studies and gives everyone around the league what

660
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: they're doing to our coaches, and they look at it.

661
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: These guys study it so that you know, you could

662
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: always see when it's the best opportunity. He's probably seen

663
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: this situation go down. May not be this specific trick play,

664
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: but a different trick play that you know, a team

665
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 2: off of.

666
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 10: You know, a big play makes another big play.

667
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 6: Feels desperate, you know.

668
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: So these guys they're always watching the game, and that's

669
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: how they get their experiences, not only through coaching it,

670
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: but watching other coaches. The great coaches will use their

671
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: experiences and implicate it into their own.

672
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 8: And I've made I've I've called enough plays and made

673
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 8: enough mistakes when I was younger, you know, to like,

674
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 8: all right, well that sucked, you know what I mean,

675
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 8: Like that totally wasn't the right time to do that,

676
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 8: you know, and you just I think learning through your

677
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 8: failings as you're going is a helpful thing. So you

678
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 8: have a little bit of wisdom, you know, after you've

679
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 8: put enough pelts on the wall, you know where now

680
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 8: you kind of know, like that's I remember not to

681
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 8: do that because of this game.

682
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 10: And I tried it and it backfired, you know.

683
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 8: And the other thing I would say about this is,

684
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 8: and you would attest to this, we practiced those things,

685
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 8: and we didn't act like they were like so special

686
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 8: that it was like impossible for us to succeed at him.

687
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 10: I treated those.

688
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 8: Things like almost like a play action passed, like a

689
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 8: flea flicker or a double Like if you rep it enough,

690
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 8: what's the difference.

691
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: Like other than the ball handling?

692
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 8: And yeah, but I've trusted you enough and we repped

693
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 8: it enough where I was like, I didn't call it

694
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 8: and go like this, like, what's gonna happen? I called

695
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 8: it going as long as the defense is gonna give

696
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 8: it to us. I've seen us execute this many times.

697
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 8: Look at he's got this smile, like, yeah, tell him

698
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 8: how many times I hit it in practice?

699
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 6: I think I overthrew him three or four times.

700
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: Next, Max Crosby on one of the strangest coaching decisions

701
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: in NFL history.

702
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 6: You know, boy genius, Brandon Stay called the time out.

703
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know if you I didn't know if you

704
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: guys were gonna go and you know, maybe let that

705
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: thing right out.

706
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: But what did you guys? Were you guys gonna let

707
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 6: it ride out?

708
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 7: Fuck no? And I didn't even hear about this. Oh yeah,

709
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 7: they were thinking about doing a time until after the

710
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 7: game because we were in a position where, you know,

711
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 7: we were close in field goal range. But if something

712
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 7: fucking tragic happened they block it or something, we could

713
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 7: lose the whole year. But I remember Rich on the sideline,

714
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 7: he was, you know, going back and forth, what do

715
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 7: we do here? And He's like, fuck it, just run

716
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 7: this run this power one more time or whatever their

717
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 7: play was, and Josh broke loose and got like twelve

718
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 7: to fifteen yards and boom, now we're in field goal range.

719
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 7: So honestly, it was a fuck you to the Chargers

720
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 7: because they called the timeout and we were thinking about

721
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 7: doing the tie, like taking a knee and I, fuck it,

722
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 7: we're gonna make the playoffs whatever, but they called the

723
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 7: timeout and we just said, fuck it, we're running another

724
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 7: play and we got the first.

725
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 6: Down, and what do you think they were thinking.

726
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know. I mean they're going.

727
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: To try to get it back and have a plus

728
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: fifty punt and then like try to drive it down

729
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: with like three.

730
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 7: It made no sense, not one bit of sense.

731
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 11: And Staley said, we didn't have our right defense in there.

732
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: He's got all the answers, a CODEC timeout, a timeout,

733
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: you got any You got.

734
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 6: Any stately stories.

735
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 7: Stately stories. I don't have any personal up close you know,

736
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 7: anything like that. But I just know playing the Chargers

737
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 7: the last couple of years, I mean you expect just

738
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 7: the craziest shit. I mean, even in that game, it

739
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 7: was like the first or second quarter and they went

740
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 7: for it on their own eighteen and like we're like

741
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 7: what the fuck? Like we were sitting there like they're

742
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 7: not punting the ball. We're like, okay, I don't know

743
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 7: what they're doing. Like, there's a time and place. I

744
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 7: understand aggression and okay the analytics, but there's a time

745
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 7: and place. I mean, biggest game of the year. You

746
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 7: can't be going for it on fourth and eighteen or

747
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 7: fourth down on your own eighteen. Yeah, you know.

748
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: And then and then the next year, you know, they

749
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: kind of change, They try to change, you know, you

750
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean they were doing.

751
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 6: We weren't doing it as much.

752
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's honestly crazy to me that he

753
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: called the timeout.

754
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 7: It's wild why people were talking about that all week

755
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 7: and it almost fucking happened. That's crazy.

756
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 6: I remember that.

757
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 7: But actually, and then all of a sudden, we're sitting

758
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 7: there were like, Okay, what the fuck this actually might

759
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 7: happen right now, And that would have been worse. Yeah, scripted,

760
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 7: but that would have been worse. Fuck that I'd rather

761
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 7: lose than both of us. Fuck that, send them home

762
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 7: with you. That's when I heard that we were potentially

763
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 7: I'm like, what fuck that? You die on your sword,

764
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 7: you go all in. We're gonna either win or we're losing.

765
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 7: The ship. We're not both going We're not sending them

766
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 7: on you know what I mean, give them a handout

767
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 7: like I were taking a knee. You send those fuckers.

768
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 6: Defensive side of the bench. You guys are chilling there,

769
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 6: well offenses out there. What do you guys? You guys

770
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 6: are all talking. Are we gonna score? What did you

771
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: guys know?

772
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: The planned We.

773
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 7: Had no doubts that we're going to try to win

774
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 7: the game. We had no idea that that was even

775
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 7: a thing. So yeah, and our heads were like, I mean,

776
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 7: we just need to get a field goal, right, We're

777
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 7: that close, We're right there. So we're like, I mean,

778
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 7: we had no idea, so it just seemed normal. Boom

779
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 7: Carlson went, kicked the field go. And then after the

780
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 7: facts we end up finding out that all this controversy

781
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 7: and they were taking me and shit, and we're like, what.

782
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 11: The fuck now?

783
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: Ty Law on his Super Bowl pick six, But can.

784
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 6: You walk us through beat for beat the pick six?

785
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 10: He's an easy one.

786
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 13: That was one of the easiest, you know, you know picks,

787
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 13: Like because I always give credit to Rabel, you know, Rabel,

788
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 13: you know made him Aaron Thow. It was one of

789
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 13: those things where you know, he did the same thing

790
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 13: that Indy used to do and start putting Marvin in motion.

791
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 13: So they put Isaac in motion so I couldn't get

792
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 13: him at the line of scrimmage, and it was one

793
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 13: of those places you had to back off, you going

794
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 13: to motion and you just seen it you're coming. Rabel

795
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 13: got through so clean that okay, now I'm just reading him.

796
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 13: And then it was an Aaron throw. So I said,

797
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 13: I'm gonna be Hesitan case Isaac because he had an

798
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 13: Isaac can route. He would rap the hell out of you.

799
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 13: So it's like, okay, you're playing for the double move.

800
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 13: It might be because I didn't know because he wasn't

801
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 13: going in motion like that until then, so I.

802
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: Was kind of trying to feel it out. So what

803
00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: type of.

804
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 6: Games gonna be?

805
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 13: And Rabel came in there and he wind back to thought.

806
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you bullshit, he dude, come.

807
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 13: On, man, come on, Kirk, you know what I mean.

808
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 13: And it was coming like it was slow motion. I

809
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 13: was like, oh, this is the super Bowl. That's the

810
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 13: kind of shit you dropped because it's so easy.

811
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 7: It's so easy, and you.

812
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 6: Would drop it.

813
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 13: But you know, once I got it, man, all you

814
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 13: seen was flashes, and it was like everything would blank,

815
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 13: you know, and you know it's like you hear the

816
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 13: screens and it just went silent, and I'm running down

817
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 13: there and just flashes and knowing that this is it,

818
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 13: you know, in the super Bowl, and got that pick

819
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 13: and the rest. We rolled the hell out of it,

820
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 13: you know what I mean, We rode the hell out

821
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 13: of that thing.

822
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 11: Man the hand that's just like I don't even know what.

823
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 6: I was doing, you know, I just I just it's

824
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 6: super I just slew it up, you know what I mean.

825
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 13: It's something that I've never done before in any of

826
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 13: my picks or my pick six. I didn't throw it up.

827
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 13: It was just something that just happened, and I threw

828
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 13: it up there and it's been the iconic picture ever since.

829
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: Next, we got Big Shot Bob Robert talking about his

830
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: game winning shot in Game five of the five NBA Finals.

831
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 6: We're here to talk about one thing, and one thing.

832
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 6: Take us through the last shot, beat by beat.

833
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 13: Well, you know we're sitting there. The play was actually

834
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 13: for minw Genobla. It wasn't for me. I was supposed

835
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 13: to endbound it Manu and then set a pick and

836
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 13: roll for so he can get to the rack. And

837
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 13: so I'm seeing him come off the pick from Tim

838
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 13: and I was like, Okay, the only past I can

839
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 13: do is to bounce pass, because that's the only I

840
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 13: can get to a bounce pass. And bounce passes I hate,

841
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 13: but sometimes you have. And when I bounced it, Rashid

842
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 13: kind of looked at it like, oh, he's really close.

843
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 13: So he went for the trap, and so I just

844
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 13: stepped in and I was on fire, so I wasn't

845
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 13: going to try to put it on the floor to

846
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 13: create for anyone. So I took the shot and and

847
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 13: after I was watching it, I didn't realize Tayshaun Prince,

848
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 13: one of the best defensive players in the game. He

849
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 13: almost blocked the shot. But when you so focused on

850
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 13: your shot, you don't even see him. And then next

851
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 13: thing you know, it rattles in and we go up,

852
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 13: We go up, and we win this game.

853
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: Man.

854
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 13: You know, it's just you know, you know, I noticing

855
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 13: the clip earlier that you had you showed Eminem up

856
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 13: there and I never talked trash and Eminem was behind

857
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 13: the bench said you won't be getting number six to night, buddy,

858
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 13: And I looked at him, and so I started talking

859
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 13: trash to Eminem because I said, I said, after they

860
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 13: hit that first, I you in fucking trouble now, dog,

861
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 13: they better fuck get me, I said. On he just

862
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 13: started smiling, right, He didn't say much. And then after

863
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 13: I did this dunk on rip, I looked at him like,

864
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 13: I told you, it's fucking over. So it was just

865
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 13: it was just one of those things. I never talked trash,

866
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 13: but when someone talks trash me and it's Eminem, you know,

867
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 13: one of the greatest rappers all the time. Yeah, and

868
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 13: so I had to talk trash back to her.

869
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 7: Man. So moment we.

870
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 6: Got to rename this game. Listen to Eminem game.

871
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Eminem, thank you for talking Ship the Big Shot Bob,

872
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: because Zip made him talk himself into a moment.

873
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: He talked himself into a moment.

874
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 11: Twenty one points in the last seventeen minutes.

875
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 6: Twenty one points in the last seventeen.

876
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

877
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Speaker 12: Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new

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