1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live right here on 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Giants dot Com. I am John Schmelt. Demand to my 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: left is Paul Detino. The phone number two O one 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: four five one three. Hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter if 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with us that way 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: you can. And it's all presented by Coors Light. We 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: want to remind you that Big Blue Kickoff Live is 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: presented by Coors Light. Download the Coors Light Rewards app 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: to an amazing Giants prizes throughout the year. And Paul 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: will be joined by Mickey Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys dot 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: Com in just a little bit and he'll give us 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: some inside on what's going on on the Cowboys end 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: of the spectrum this week. But for the Giants, the 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: news that came down today from head coach Pat Shermer 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: no Olivier Vernon not a surprise given the fact that 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: he hadn't practiced all week, But the Giants again to 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get consistent pass rush and 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: set the edge against the Cowboys running game that had 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: success running outside last week against a good Panthers front. Yeah, 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I think, Olivier Vernon doesn't get enough 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: credit for being a really good run stopper out there 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: because so many people think of him as a pass 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: rushing defensive end. But well, whatever you call him, end linebacker, 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't care. Edge guy, edge ed Okay, Uh, he 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: doesn't nearly get the accolades that he should for turning 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: guys back inside or for that batter, making tackles or 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: forcing them all the way out to the boundary to 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: where they got to go out of bounds after a 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: two year ad game. So I I do think they 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: missed him last week more in that part of the 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: game than they did the pass rush. I thought the 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: pass rush was adequate, it was sporadic. I know they'd 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: like to get a little more heat on the quarterback, 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: but to me, it was his missing element in the 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: ability of Jacksonville to run wide. And obviously you saw 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: the boot by boardles, which was just not a good 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: thing that the Giants really missed the most. Yeah, and Paul, 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: I think the jack Wars didn't give the Giants a 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: ton of pass rushing opportunities. Um, they don't wanna do 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: a lot of five step and seven step drops and 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: you know, lead borders, read the whole field, hold the ball, 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: for you know, three or four seconds, they're gonna do 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: a lot of play action, They're gonna move the pocket, 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna do things like that. So I don't think 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: there were a lot of opportunities for straight up rushes. 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: You'll get more of that this week against the Cowboys, 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: though they also do a lot of the same play 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: action bootlegs stuff that the Jaguars do. Um Otherwise, that's 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: what the Giants defense played well last week. I think 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more of a challenge this week 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: against Dallas, but I think it's a similar offense and 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: taking a look at how the Cowboys did in Week 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: one offensively, they struggled. There's really no other word to 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: use for it. Uh. I think they finished with just 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: under three yards to eight five or so um of 56 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: offense last week. Ezekiel Elliott did not run it well 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: in the first half. He was better in the second half. 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott had trouble find the open receivers when they 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: were open. He missed a couple of them, both not 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: throwing the ball and just throwing in accurately. So you 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: put all that together, uh, this is a Cowboys offense 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: that really has to bounce back in week two if 63 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: they want a chance to win this game, and it 64 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: starts with running the football. Well, I told folks yesterday 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: when I was doing the show with Lance, and I'll 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: tell you this today, the Cowboys offense was embarrassing, terrible, horrible, miserable. 67 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody in that entire state was absolutely nauseous 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: over what they saw offensively from that club. Only one 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: score eight points two of eleven on third days, and 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: particularly about the offensive line, which I know the folks 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: in New York can't understand, but that offensive line had 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: more troubles than the Giants did last week. I'm not 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: trying to go that far, but six acts I go that. 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: A lot of it though, was Prescott holding the ball 75 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: a lot in the second again, but that's all part 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: of that's all part of it. You know, they got 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: to know how long he's gonna hold the ball too. Yeah, 78 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: but you can't block forever, No, you can't know, you can't. 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: But you know, any interior of the line, Williams and 80 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: uh and to me how to boney looney looney and 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Williams not good at all. So you know, if you're 82 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: the Giants, that's where you want to apply the heat. 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: And we do know that the Giants under Betcher will 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: do more pressure packages interior wise, they will send more 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: in a B gap stuff than some other guys who 86 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: will send more stuff off the edges. I do sense 87 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: that from Betcher you'd like to get there with four guys, though, 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: if you can, you'd love to. You'd love to, of course, 89 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: or five guys whatever. You know. Yeah, well you'd like 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: with your standard front is really what you're saying, um 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: and I get that, But we have seen over the 92 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: course of training camp, John, We've seen safety blitzes on 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: the interior. We've seen Ogletree often blitz on the interior 94 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: during practice abs. So if I'm the Giants, I'm giving 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that stuff a shot. I'm knowing where the achilles is 96 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: of that Cowboys offensive line. Oh absolutely, Look, you can 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: have to challenge those guys inside Travicks Frederick Travis, Frederick 98 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: is not there. Who knows when he's gonna be back, 99 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be back this year. Um. Conna Williams 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: is a rookie obviously still figuring things out, much like 101 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: will Hernandez is, you know, for the Giants, and Tyred 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Smith didn't play that well last week either, which is 103 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: obviously the big surprise. Jack Martin was fine, um, but 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: tyred Smith didn't even play that well last week. So, uh, 105 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: those are things you look at on that side of 106 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: the ball. Defensively, for the Cowboys, I thought they played 107 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: well against Carolina, but it's such a different team and 108 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: scheme than what they're gonna see this week. I have 109 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: a hard time really looking at what they did against 110 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Carolina and trying to transport it. Uh. The Panthers, I think, 111 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: only completed six passes to wide receivers for sixties something yards. 112 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: They just didn't throw them a lot. They don't have 113 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: the type of dynamic playmakers outside that the Giants have. 114 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: The one thing that might carry over, Paul is they 115 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: threw a lot to Christian McCaffrey and the Giants will 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: probably try to target Sae Kwon Barkley a little bit, 117 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: so maybe that's a bit of a carryover. With the 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense struggle. The most was in the first half 119 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: was Cam Newton holding the ball and doing read options 120 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: and rolling out and running with the football, and we 121 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: know REALI is not doing that. So it's kind of 122 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: hard for me to look at what the Cowboys defense 123 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: was asked to do last week based on their opponent, 124 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: and translated to what the Giants who did this week, 125 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be very apples and oranges to make. 126 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: I would have to believe the Cowboys are going to 127 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: be defensively specific against what they face this week against 128 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: the Giants, because you're right, it is totally different than 129 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: what they saw last week against Carolina, which makes it 130 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: hard to grade them. I think they played well for 131 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: what they had to do last week. Absolutely, can they 132 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: play even that well against a totally different style of 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: attack When you're talking about the Giants who have four 134 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: potential game breakers in Barkley, Beckham, Sheppard and maybe ingram Um. 135 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Carolina does not have four game breakers. They just don't 136 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: maybe have one, maybe and maybe if you count Greg 137 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: Olsen or the rookie d J. Moore, but Devin Functious 138 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Tory Smith not really, so it's a different deal. It's 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: total that the philosophy on Monday night in the Dallas 140 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys defensive coordinator's room is going to be totally different 141 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: than what what happened last weekend. So you're right, John, Uh, 142 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to truly grade or or predict what 143 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensively will do on Sunday down to day 144 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: T and T Stadium. Yeah, it is, and I think 145 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: it'll be an interesting game. Um, a couple other things 146 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: that I noted. UM watching the Cowboys last week, it's 147 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: pretty obvious to me that the guy Prescott trust the 148 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: most as Cole Beasley, which shouldn't be a surprise. That's 149 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: the guy that's been there the longest. The only guy 150 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of left from that, you know, des Brian 151 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Went and Tony romo Era. Um, I was surprised he 152 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: actually lined them up outside a little bit more last 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: week than they have before. He did most of his 154 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: damage from the slot though a lot of those slants 155 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: and things like that. It's a lot'll be a challenge 156 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: for b W. Webb and the Giants linebackers. But I 157 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: saw him on a double move outside or he was 158 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: actually wide open and Prescott didn't throw him the football 159 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So move him around a little bit. 160 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: And then I mean, I don't think we can know 161 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: off that first week. Does he want to throw it 162 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: to Alan Hearns, Does he want to throw it to 163 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup? They just want many opportunities for it last week. 164 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: So I think it's this is the thing, And Paul, 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: you said this to me on Wednesday, and I agree 166 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: with we don't know how to react to week one. 167 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: Is week one really a sign of the Cowboys offense 168 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: and what it is? Is week one really a sign 169 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: of how much the Giant's offensive line is going to struggle? 170 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Or was it simply a bad week against good opponents? 171 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: The Panthers defense is good, they have a good defense. 172 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: The Jaguars defensive front is really good. They got a 173 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: good front. So was it just a bad week against 174 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: a good team or is it really a sign of 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: what it's going to be for most of the season. 176 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna learn a lot about both 177 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: of these teams and how they perform a week number two, 178 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: I thought Pat Shermer in a way addressed that today 179 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: you were at the meeting and I missed like the 180 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: first two minutes. Okay. He was asked about what did 181 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: you think of practice this week? And he said this 182 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: past Wednesday's was better than the first Wednesday. The Thursday 183 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: was better than last week's Thursday, and today's Friday was 184 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: better than last Friday's Friday. And he went on to explain, Well, 185 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: that's the way it should be, because we were going 186 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: into the opening game and everybody is still kind of 187 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: unfamiliar with each other. They're still trying to feel their way, 188 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: they're trying to get their routine down. Now this is 189 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: week two. They're supposed to be incrementally better as you 190 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: move through the weeks, and he said, I expect that 191 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: they'll be better again next week after the second game 192 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: and continuing on down the line. So where is the ceiling? 193 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: How much is the level of improvement from week to 194 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: week during the month of September. Uh, we're all gonna 195 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: have to find out at the same time when they 196 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: kicked the ball off Sunday night. But it is quite 197 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: clear at least at this point that Pat Shermer believes 198 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: his team has moved forward. Yeah, I think so too. 199 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: And look, obviously Pat Summer's starting new for for the Giants, 200 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk to Mickey Spagnola about this, and 201 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: this will be my first question for Mickey. Big picture 202 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, I think there was a faction of 203 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: fans down there that wanted to move on from Jason 204 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Garrett after last year, and I think their performance in 205 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: week number one and how they played as only fanning 206 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the flames start Owen two. I don't think Jerry Jones 207 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: would do that after just a couple of weeks. I 208 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: think he'll be there the whole year. But this offense 209 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: and then recovering from the Cowboys perspective is important for Garrett, 210 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: and it's very important for Dak Prescott. He hasn't gotten 211 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: that contract extension yet, so how he plays and carries 212 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: on the rest of the season is gonna go in 213 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: a long way towards determining that. And now, Paul, we're 214 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: joined by Mickey Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Mickey 215 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: jumping off another call to do another He's the most 216 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: popular guy down in Texas right now. And Mickey, I'm 217 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: sure this is a question you were asked on your 218 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: last radio hit, so I'll ask it to you again. 219 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: Is this Cowboys offense as bad as what we saw 220 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: last week and what we saw in the last seven 221 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: or eight games of last year, or is this a 222 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: blip on the radar and we're going to see more 223 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: of what we saw from Dak Prescott and company in 224 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: the first twenty years. Still games of his career. Yeah, 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: I got a feeling that, Um, you know this this 226 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: season opener was somewhat of a blimp on the radar. 227 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you get an opportunity to see exactly 228 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: what this team can do. Now that's all predicated on 229 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive line playing better than it did. Uh 230 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: in that season opener. I know everybody looks at DAC 231 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, dad did this and Dad did that. 232 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Well Dak also got sacked six times, hit another ten times, 233 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: and then forced to move out of the pocket, as 234 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I was told in in an ordinate amount of time. 235 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: So the quarterbacks always going to take the blame. Uh, 236 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: He's accepted it, and I kind of like the way 237 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: he came back with this kind of defiant attitude this week. 238 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, let's go play football. Uh, let's see 239 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: what we can do. So uh, I certainly don't think 240 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: this game is an indication of his talent. Uh. And 241 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: you know there there were extenuating circumstances last year. What 242 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: happened the final eight games, of course, and I want 243 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: to follow up on that because I think it's interesting. Um, 244 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: some of those satsin hits, though, I think came from 245 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: Prescott holding the ball because he either couldn't find an 246 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: open receiver or you know, for whatever the reason might be. 247 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: When you look at those plays, individual, I know, you 248 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: guys break this down and do a real good job down. 249 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: There wasn't that receivers weren't getting open. Was Prescott missing 250 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: and not seeing open receivers? What was the crux of 251 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: that issue with him not getting the ball out a 252 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: little bit quicker to open guys? Yeah, I think that, 253 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: you know, he may have. I think the receivers weren't 254 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: as bad as portrayed. He may have missed some things, 255 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: but I think they also, uh, you know, what was 256 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: happening in the pocket when he was missing those things. 257 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't like he was standing there pounding 258 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: the ball one to three looking for guys, right. Uh, 259 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: he mostly was started on the move. I mean, I 260 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: look at what what happened to him, started what happened 261 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: to Eli and against Jacksonville when he was having to 262 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, run around and get the ball out of 263 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: his hands immediately on those shorter routes. Because the pressure 264 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: that they continue to put on him, and you know, 265 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, But at some point they 266 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: had to roll him out of the pocket just to 267 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: be able to throw a pass with all the pressure 268 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: was on him, and that was sort of what happened 269 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: to Dak. Uh and then not only that, when getting 270 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: in those terrible down and distances for the majority of 271 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: the first half. You don't want though, Mickey, I will 272 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: say this, if Prescott has to do a lot of moving, 273 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot of running, and a lot of rolling out 274 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: the way the Giants edge defense has been during the 275 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: preseason and during the game last week against Jacksonville, that 276 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: may wind up being Palace's best offensive weapon because you 277 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: saw Bortles take off for forty plus yards and that 278 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: was not pretty from the Giants perspective. How much does 279 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: dak want to run if if given the chance, Well, 280 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: if they I think if I think sort of right, 281 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: and wow, it's more of on on need basis more 282 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: so than Okay, let's just pull it down and run. 283 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: I think his first priority when he drops back to 284 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: pass is to be able to throw the ball, and 285 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: then you know, it's a bonus that uh, sometimes you 286 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: can use your legs to get out of trouble. Now, 287 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: there may be sometimes where you know they decide Okay, 288 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: let's let them go. Let's let them let's let's call that, 289 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: let's let them run. But you know, we'll see how 290 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of how it turns out. But I agree with you. Uh, 291 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: And I did see that against Jacksonville that when Leonard 292 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Fournette was in the game, they were doing a pretty 293 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: good job of hitting that Giant's defense on the edges 294 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: and getting outside. Did something change with Elliott in the 295 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: second half against that? In the Panthers game, he really 296 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: couldn't run in the first half, did better in half 297 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: of number two. Was there a change in strategy, some 298 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: sort of adjustment that you think they can carry over 299 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: this week? Yeah, as long as they stay out of 300 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: exactly seventeen that that would be the biggest that would 301 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: certainly help. Because he only had what like eight carries 302 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: for like twelve yards or something like that the first half, 303 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: and he just didn't get much of an opportunity. And 304 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: and again, uh, you know, if they were, if they 305 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: were paying attention, Uh, you know, a lot of what 306 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: for net did seem to be on the edges and 307 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: getting him around the corner. You know, one of the 308 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: things that Cowboys I thought did well. Uh. When the 309 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: first team was out there in preseason. Uh, And what 310 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: we saw in training camp was instead of just trying 311 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: to strong arm everybody with that offensive line, they had 312 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: guys on the move. They were pulling trapping, uh and 313 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: and seemed to do much better operating that way. You know. 314 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: One of the things, and one of the knocks right 315 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: now on on Connor Williams, their rookie starting left guard, 316 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: is the fact that he's not quite strong enough. And 317 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's uh, you know that's any secret. 318 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: But when they've got him on the move, uh, he's 319 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: pretty darn good. Huh. And actually Joe Looney, you know, 320 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: trying to take Travis Frederick's place wasn't bad at it either. 321 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: We know Zack Martin can do it. And if Tyrone 322 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Smith on the move will just not hit the guy 323 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: in the back, Uh, he's pretty good at it too. 324 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: So it might seem more of that to try to 325 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: attack the Giants. One more question on the offense from me, Mickey. Uh. 326 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: In years past, I mean we all know it was 327 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: Elliott pound the ball between the tackles. It was Prescott 328 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: looped the ball up and asked Dez to make a play, 329 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: and it was Okay, well we need the security blanket 330 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: on this place. So Jason Witten is going to catch 331 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: the ball. That sounds actually, I mean yeah, that's just 332 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: the way it was. And and and god knows when 333 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: was a giants killer among all giants killers over the years, 334 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: So no days, no Wittnes. I asked Ogletree, just Ali 335 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: gogel Tree about half hour ago, what was it like 336 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: to watch Dallas offensive film without Dez and without Witting 337 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, it was really weird. I'm 338 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: watching the tape and I'm looking at guy is running 339 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: routes and it's not those guys anymore. So what is 340 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: it that the Cowboys really want to do philosophically now 341 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: that those two superstars are out of the equation. Well, 342 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: first in phone Mars, they certainly would like to continue 343 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: to be able to run the football. And I think 344 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: if you do that, then that'll open things up. Now, 345 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that are out there that 346 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, no one knows about. But I think that 347 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, they're still going to have to deal with 348 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley. And in dealing with Cole Beasley becomes more 349 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: difficult if you're running the football and the linebackers have 350 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: something else to think about other than brackening Beasley up 351 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: the middle. I think that Michael Gallup, the rookie wide receiver, 352 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: their third round draft choice, I think they've got something 353 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: there and they just need to let him continue to play. 354 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: I think he he's going to provide some some spark 355 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: for for this offense as things go along. And seeing 356 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing about this whole deal, you mentioning all 357 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: those guys and everybody that's missing, well, I don't know 358 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: that you just automatic or replace those guys the first, 359 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, two three games of the season, you go, Okay, 360 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: look we're right back at it. I think this is 361 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: a team that's gonna grow. And you know, in my 362 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: column before the season started, I wrote, you know, if if, 363 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: if you're not scared to watch, you know, this team 364 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: may grow before your very eyes. But don't count on 365 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: it going five and oh to start the season, because 366 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. Uh. And they've got a lot 367 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: of adjustments to make. Just like you mentioned, you know, 368 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: missing Jason Witten hurts, but I don't know that the 369 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: tight ends just absolutely killed them in that game because 370 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: of their inavailability or in an inability to get opened. 371 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I still say it. It started on that offensive line. 372 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: If you can't block them up front. Uh, you can 373 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: have all the skill guys in the world, right, I mean, 374 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: what did Odell Backam Jr. Average on eleven catches ten 375 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: yards of catching? You know he's better than that. But 376 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: if you can't block it up so you can get 377 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: them get the ball down the field, you know what? 378 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: What what can the quarterback do? So to me and 379 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I hate this sound like I'm just repeating myself when 380 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: it comes back to how well that Cowboys front plays 381 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: will determine on what these other guys can do. Makeey 382 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: don't feel bad. We've been saying the same thing for 383 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: about four days here on Giants don't so don't feel 384 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: bad about it. We're drawn by Mickey Spagnola Dallas Cowboys 385 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: do Mickey, I know you have the locker room opening up, 386 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: so if you have to go, just let us know. 387 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: It's not a problem. I know you guys have a 388 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: lot going on on the defense real quick, and Paul 389 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: and I just made this point. They did real well 390 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: against Carolina last week, but it's such a different type 391 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: of offense than what the Giants are gonna present with 392 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: their personnel this week. How do you think this Cowboys 393 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: defense will match up against all the different weapons of 394 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Giants are thrown out there? Well, and so conversely, I'll 395 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: say you because I kept getting the questions how the 396 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna cover Odell Beckham Jr. How are they 397 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna do? How they even do that? I said, Well, 398 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: the best way to cover those those wide receivers is 399 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: to get pressure on the quarterback. And I think it 400 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: was one thing they did last week. They got pressure 401 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: on Cam Newton and once they adjusted to the him 402 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: pulling the ball down and running, they played awfully. They 403 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: held Carolina less than a hundred yards the second half, 404 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: So they did a pretty darn good job. Uh. You know, 405 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: you give up sixteen points, you ought to be able 406 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: to win. I mean, you got to score more than eight. 407 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: So I think Number one for them is to make 408 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: sure that they I think they can get pressure against 409 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: that Giant's offensive line. The key thing will be can 410 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: they stop the run? Can they make sure that say 411 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley doesn't break out for that one run for 412 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: sixty eight yards. You know it's got to be closer 413 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: to what did he have the other seventeen carries thirty 414 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: oven yard something like that. Good luck trying to catch 415 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: him in the open field, Mickey, That's pretty hard to do. Yeah, yeah, 416 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: And and so they better not let him get past 417 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage very far. So to me and 418 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli will will tell you the first priority is 419 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: to stop the run. In the second one is to 420 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: make sure we're aggressive and getting pressure on the quarterback. 421 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: And I think I got time for one more question. 422 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: Nobody has any doubts about what the Marcus Lawrence can do. 423 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: The fourteen and a half sacks last year. He had 424 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: a sack and a half against the Giants last season 425 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: as well. But see for me, Mickey, I'm a little 426 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: too smart for that. I'm looking at Sean Lee eighteen 427 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: tackles in a pick at MetLife Stadium last year. He 428 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: ruined the Giants in a route. That guy, to me, 429 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: is such a big play guy against this team in particular. 430 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: What do you see from him? What kind of campus 431 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: he had, Well, I think he's had kind of I 432 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: don't know how to call it. Um. It was sort 433 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: of it wasn't a consistent camp because they were sort 434 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: of kind of keeping him under wraps. Uh. You knowing 435 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: his injury history, they didn't want to expose them too 436 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: much and raised the possibility of you know, pulling this 437 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: or spraining that. Uh. And then in the first game, 438 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: it really wasn't the Shawn Lee we knew. Uh. He 439 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: missed a bunch of tackles. I think counted up maybe 440 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: four tackles and that's just not him. And he overpursued 441 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: a couple of times. And so I don't know if 442 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: the inactivity in training camp hurt him when he finally 443 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: got out there, because he really didn't play hardly at 444 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: all in preseason and and and they kept them out 445 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: of a lot of the contact in training camp. So 446 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: I think he had a little bit of an adjustment period. 447 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: But you're right. If he's right, the defense is right, 448 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: and with the addition of Jalen Smith being healthier and 449 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: the flexibility of Layton vander Ish, it's a pretty good 450 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: linebacking corps. But again, you know a lot of that 451 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: all depends on what do you what are you doing 452 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: for me up front? Uh? And I think that'll be 453 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: the key thing, maybe the key thing in the game 454 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 1: for the Cowboy Mickey One word answer. Randy Gregory up 455 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: or down. It's looking better. You know how the concussion 456 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: protocol works, right, uh and and and the last thing 457 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: you gotta do is be able to practice and then 458 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: have no residual effect the next day. So he was 459 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: out in there. They were in shells, but he was 460 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: in helmet and shells and went through the practice. I 461 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: would imagine at this point it depends on what happens tomorrow. 462 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: Do you wake up and and are you dizzy or 463 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: you you're good to go. So a little bit more 464 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: optimistic than maybe they were at the beginning of the 465 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: week for him. Thank you, Mickey getting that locker room. 466 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: We appreciate a couple minutes. So your Sunday, all right, 467 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you guys. Take care. All right. 468 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: That's Mickey Stagnola, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I joined them 469 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: yesterday on their morning shell and now he was kind 470 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: enough to gives a few minutes in um. Surprisingly, it 471 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: didn't sound like Gregory was gonna play, But Mickey seems 472 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: a little more optimistic if he was out there on 473 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: the practice field that apple with Evan England. We saw, 474 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: you know, you go you go to that red jersey 475 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: and then you see the next day whether or not 476 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: he can do more. So I guess we'll have to 477 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: wait and see. Yeah, I think the one thing that 478 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: was of interest to me and why I asked him 479 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: about Shawn Lee, is because I did not see the 480 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: typical Seawan Lee kind of performer. He played poorly, and 481 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: that's for me, is crippling because I I'm a huge 482 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: san and they need him desperately. If he didn't play 483 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: well a lot of trouble. I needed to know what 484 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of camp he had because was that an aberration 485 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: or was he not playing well at all? This something 486 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: based on what I was gonna say, based on what 487 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: Mickey said, He's got a scrapeballf a lot of rust 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: and he couldn't do it in a week one. For 489 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: the Giant's sake, I hope he doesn't do it this week, 490 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to tackle Stacom Barkley so it 491 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get an easier Yeah. But but Sean Lee, when 492 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: he's right, he's a game wrecker. And the only good 493 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: thing with Lee is that you know, the Giants were 494 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: in the same offense for four years under Ben McAdoo. 495 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: He basically had the think diagnosed. I mean you watched 496 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: that game last year the diagnosed. I think he had 497 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: their playbook in his lockers. What I think he doesn't 498 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: have quite as much to go off of in terms 499 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: of tape to get to that level now. As my point. So, 500 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: and he was on the same page as you on 501 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive line. He thought that was the biggest problem. So, um, 502 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: you guys are on the money and both these offensive 503 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: lines which everyone plays better. And somebody tweeted me the day, Paul, 504 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: and they asked me, John, you're two keys of the game, 505 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: and these are my two answers. If the Giants slid 506 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: down to Zekiel Elliott and they protect the line manning, 507 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: they win the game easily. That it's that simple. They 508 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: do those two things. I don't see how the Cowboys win. Yeah. Well, 509 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: I think in terms of your comment about the old lines, 510 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: there were ten teams in the NFL in Week one 511 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: that did not score twenty points. I guarantee you everybody 512 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: in those ten cities is crying about their offensive line. Yeah. 513 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: It's just that simple, including a certain person in Maine 514 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: who's not on the line. That makes my day. But 515 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: he tweets he's going to call great. See what I did, 516 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: all right, So we're gonna take your calls for the 517 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: next half hour, folks. But before we do own, remind 518 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: you that Big Look at Golf Live is presented by 519 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: Corps Light download the Coors Light Awards after an amazing 520 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: giant prizes throughout the season, Jeff and Long Island has 521 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: been holding the longest, so he gets to go first. Jeff, Hey, Hi, guys. Um, 522 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out if I'm still old school 523 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to transition to new school. And it's 524 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: regarding Landon Collins comment about Dark Prescott and and and 525 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Dak responded in kind, I guess in the news in 526 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. So my my concern is 527 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: that he named a name that he said that Landon Collins, 528 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, pointed directly to Dak and sort of implied that, 529 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: you know, we want him to be the court of 530 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: or we want him to pass, you know. And and 531 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: the old school part of me is going back ten 532 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: years like when Plexico Berths, you know, gave a score 533 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: and that's all he gave, and and and Brady reacted 534 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: to it, you know, by saying we really or something 535 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: like that. So should I think nothing about this. I mean, 536 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: is this sort of like in a different section of 537 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: the Giants locker room. I mean, no nobody posts anything 538 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: anymore because it goes on everybody's snidge night I suppose, honestly, Jeff, 539 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: to me, that was simply Landon Collins trying to say, 540 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: our number one job here is to stop the run, 541 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: and if you stop the run, you make the other 542 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: team a one dimensional passing team. I understand the way 543 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: the words came out of his mouth. Why the Cowboys 544 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: or Prescott might think it was a dig at him, 545 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: especially when it was presented that way by the media, 546 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: of course, but to me, that's that's the way he 547 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: answered the question. And maybe you're right the fact that 548 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: he said, you know, we feel good about winning if 549 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: we put it in Prescott's hands, that probably is what 550 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: rang the bell a little bit. If you would have 551 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: just said, you know, we feel good if we stopped 552 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: the run and we and you know, we turned them 553 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: into a nimensional passing team. To me, that comment doesn't 554 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: get any play. So maybe it is the fact that 555 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: he named the name. But to me that was people 556 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: looking for fodder. There might only be two quarterbacks in 557 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: the NFL where you would say, oh, we feel good 558 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: if we put it in there in Rogers Haynes. Now 559 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: that's really Dunk or Brady Brady Breeze, maybe Russell Wilson, 560 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: because I don't think Seattle as much of an offense 561 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: outside of him maybe, But other than that, you're always 562 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: going to say we feel good about putting the ball 563 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: in the quarterback's hands because you want to stop the 564 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: run for a second and third. Okay, got you, Okay, 565 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, that's how I read that. And similarly, 566 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: I know we had the mini Eric Flowers controversy or 567 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: in the week with the quote that Art Stable and 568 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: put up there, and I again, I understand why people 569 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: would read it a certain way the way I heard 570 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: it when I was there, and I read it, and 571 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: I give our credit. He gave the full quote. He 572 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: didn't make any comment there. He literally put the quote 573 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: on Twitter, which is what you do, and people then 574 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: interpret it the way they're going to do. Art did 575 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: not do anything wrong. Um to me, that was just 576 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: him saying, well, I know what it's like to play 577 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: against him, so the next time I'm going to make adjustments. 578 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: And that's I think how he meant to answer the question. 579 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,239 Speaker 1: But I understand why people would see a different way. 580 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: And I think context is very important with things like 581 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: and this is why Twitter is so evil, because you 582 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: can quote somebody specifically, right down to the punctuation. But 583 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: because you don't have italics, you don't have bull face, 584 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: you can't give inflection, you can't give feeling, you can't 585 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: give emotion. So you can quote somebody accurately and not 586 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: get the meaning of what they said. That's that's the 587 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: problem with Twitter. Well, I mean that's print in general, right, 588 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, any no questions, that's just print. I mean, 589 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: you could read a quote, but it would like to 590 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: believe it was in if it was in a real story, 591 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: that would be explanatory sentences around and and again Art, 592 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm not taking a shot at Art. He's a great reporter. 593 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: He did nothing wrong, he did everything right. He put 594 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: up the full question, he put up the quote. But again, 595 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: I understand why people would take a certain way. But 596 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: to me, I took that a look. I played him. 597 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: I know how he plays now, so the next time 598 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I adjusted, and that's how I read the quote myself. 599 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: But again, I understand why people will see the different way. 600 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jonathan in Colorado. He's up next. Hey Jonathan, 601 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: how are you? How are you doing right? Yeah? So 602 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I've been listening to the comments. Man, I love the show, 603 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: and everybody's panicking about the offensive line. I felt like 604 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: it's a totally different UH coach from last year, where 605 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: Mac and Do wouldn't make any adjustments. I mean, I 606 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: saw Pat Sherman making the adjustments. He was double team 607 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: and he was chipping, but we can't expect him to 608 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: have picky plays drawn up to max protect Jonathan. Jonathan. 609 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Here's the problem. A lot of people still have some 610 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: festering scars from what happened the last couple of years. 611 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: So when the first week of the year, you're getting 612 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: hit in that same place where you're sore and you 613 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: have the scars from before, it hurts a little bit more. 614 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's why we've seen the visceral reaction 615 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: to happened in Week one that we've seen. Yeah, yeah, 616 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: I agree with John and it's not quite Frankly, and 617 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: I posted this item on Twitter the other day. It 618 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 1: was unrealistic to expect that these five guys starting for 619 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: the first time in a regular season game after having 620 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: only five quarters of preseason action would necessarily play at 621 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: a very high level. You expected them and hoped that 622 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: they would be adequate. But to to think that they 623 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: were automatically going to play their best in the first 624 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: game virtually impossible. I just think that expectations were much 625 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: too high. The hope was again that they would be 626 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: good enough. They weren't good enough. They need to be 627 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: in Week two, they weren't. I was impressed with both 628 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: coaches defensive van offensive. They made the adjustments, and that's 629 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: something that we really haven't been having the last couple 630 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: of years. The adjustments have been fourth quarter as any 631 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: before we go to panic mode. Just get the ball 632 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: to Odell Beckham every single play. Yeah. Philosophically, I was 633 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: very pleased with what I saw me too, both on 634 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: offense and on defense. I thought the schemes were smart, 635 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: they were well thought out. The problem was in several 636 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: instances on both sides of the ball, the execution was 637 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: not there. The drop passes, missed assignments on the old line, 638 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: missed assignments in terms of filling in gaps on the defense, 639 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: and obviously the muff muff punt. I mean, those are 640 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: execution issues. That's that has nothing to do with the 641 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: coaching staff. I thought they were good. I had no 642 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: problem with what they did. My friend, with Evan Ingram 643 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: and a jobs, I mean, well, I know it was 644 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: a lot of different blame and blame to go around, 645 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: but I felt a lot we won that game with 646 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram concentrating, you know what I mean, and uh 647 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: dialing in like we win that game whatever. Ingram, thank you, Jathan, 648 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: appreciate appreciate it. Man, I thought he was done. I 649 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: mean to cut you off, my bad um, but um, 650 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: it's not just thinking. I mean, there was a Shepherd two. 651 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean that was if they if he catches that 652 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: ball on that final driveball, result might be different. Two 653 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: drops inside the final four minutes on that drive, one 654 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: by Shepherd and one by Ingram. And you know, bottom 655 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: line is this, there were enough of mistakes littered throughout 656 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: all three units that the Giants lost the game and 657 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: deserve to lose the game. They have a lot of 658 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: opportunities they did not catch. When when you add up 659 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: all those mistakes, you get an out and and look again, 660 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I understand Jacksonville is a very good team. Okay, I 661 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: get that, John, you were right last week when you said, hey, 662 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: they're a really good team. This is gonna take a 663 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: real good game to beat him. I I get that. 664 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I thought the Giants, outside of there's sloppiness, did everything 665 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: they had to do to win. And I still believe 666 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: they were more self inflicted wounds that cost them that 667 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: game than Jacksonville beating them. I really do. It's hard 668 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: for me to say that about the Jacksonville defensive line. 669 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: Those aren't self inflicted wounds. Those that's the Jaguars being good. Okay. 670 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: But despite that defense sub line's effort, the Giants are 671 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: in position to win the game, down by five with 672 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: four minutes to go. They drive at the Jacksonville territory. 673 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: They have to. They're in the position to tie again, 674 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: not win it. Right if they was five point game, 675 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: You're right, they're they're they're marching down. They get two 676 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: drops on that on that drive. Now, unfairness. They still 677 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: a thirty five yards to go. It's not like they 678 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: were in the red zone. I understand. And by the way, folks, 679 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: and this is me talking, all right, I'm claiming this. 680 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: Go back and look at the video. If you got 681 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: game pass, you have game passed, Okay, go back and 682 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: look at the video on game pass. Look at the 683 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: end zone coaches shot of the fourth down in completion 684 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: to Sterling Shepherd, have you done it? I don't know 685 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: what you're gonna reference here, so I'll just reference the 686 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: defensive back who hooked the arm and obviously either should 687 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: have been called for holding or pass interference on the 688 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: fourth down. Play my eyes only. I'm not saying anybody 689 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: else has said that to me. Watch the video determined 690 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: for yourself. To me, it's a shame that that did 691 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: not get cold correctly because that might have changed the 692 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: outcome of the game as well. I think, and it 693 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't be this way, but this is how I think 694 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: officiating works in NBING and in the NFL. If that 695 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: pass had gotten to Shepherd, and let's say it hit 696 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: his hands while his arm was being hooked, I think 697 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,959 Speaker 1: the flag gets thrown. The fact that the dB got 698 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: his hand on the ball and knocked it away, I 699 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: think that's probably why the flag wasn't thrown. Well, I 700 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: will give it was I think it was Booie Hayden. 701 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: I thought right was hated what he did. What I 702 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: give him credit. He hooked the arm, pulled it back, 703 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: ball comes in and as the ball actually gets there, 704 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: he let's go correct. It was brilliant, brilliant piece of 705 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: quarterback trickery. And the official is probably blocked out from 706 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: the hook because he's on the sideline and that's on 707 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: the other side of the guy's body, so it's hard 708 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: for him the seat. When you get a chance, please 709 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: go back and watch it. No, I saw it, saw it? Okay, Okay, yeah, 710 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean I'm just making sure you did. Yeah. Uh. 711 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: We talked about it on the broadcast when the play happened. Okay, yeah, 712 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: we did. Two one, five, one three. Let's go to 713 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: Jason in Portland, Maine. All. I'm not sure if he's 714 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: in Portland or not, but he isn't main. What's up, Jason, Hey, 715 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: guys Easton, what's up Jason? Yeah, just a couple of 716 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: questions for you. I'm wondering, for one, um, throughout what 717 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: you've seen so far with Eric Flower switching to the 718 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: right side, do you think that's gonna ultimately be a 719 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: better spot for him? How has his adjustment been so far? 720 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: Do you think? Hey, look, Paul and I were on 721 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: different sides of this ledger, so I'll let him answer 722 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: the question. I never thought going to the right side 723 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: was gonna help his. Only thing that's gonna help him 724 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: is getting better technique wise, So that was always my opinion, 725 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised, Um Paul. I'd like to hear 726 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: your answer though. Yeah, my stock answer on this has 727 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: always been a strong side right formation offense, which is 728 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: what the Giants are. You have the ability to use 729 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: the tight end to help out that tackle on many plays. 730 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: Now you'd like to minimize it. You don't want to 731 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: do it on seventy five snaps. If you're gonna have 732 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: seventy five snaps in the game, you don't want to 733 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: do it on all of them, obviously because that inhibits 734 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: your playbook. But you know they're gonna be a number 735 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: of times X number of times, say where you're going 736 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: to have your tight end or maybe even your running 737 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: back be able to help your right tackle because you're 738 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: a strong side right formation team, so that by default 739 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: has to be able to help the production of that 740 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: edge tackle. Now, unfortunately, because the play against Jacksonville was 741 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: so substandard, h a lot of things collapsed, a lot 742 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: of things didn't work, and now they have to figure out, Okay, 743 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: how much additional help do we have to commit to 744 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: that side although the rest of the line didn't play 745 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: well either, and that's and that's the problem. Now, what 746 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: what what do you do to your playbook to compensate 747 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: for what you saw? And by the way, I will 748 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: say this, Dan Dugan actually asked that question a bunch 749 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: of different times this week, and I think he was 750 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: doing a story on it, and none of the coaches 751 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: really gave a great answer. He asked a few toys, Shula, 752 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: he asked Schumer. I think he asked Eli to basically, 753 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: how does it limit your offense if you have to 754 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: bring in, leave somebody in the block or chip And 755 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: it's a really good question. I thought he was right 756 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: on the right path of of where to go with that, 757 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: and none of them really gave him a great answer. Clearly, 758 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: he's been listening to the show for many months and 759 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: it's heard me explain exactly what this is all about. 760 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: But ultimately, ultimately you are right in that he's got 761 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: to do better in his one on one matchups because 762 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: there were gonna be enough of them during the game 763 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: where he needs to win. It's hard to chip on 764 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: a third and twelve. It's hard you need to throw 765 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: as many people into the route as possible. It's just 766 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: hard to do. Okay, alright, just my other question was, well, 767 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just ask these two and then then 768 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: to get off the air. UM. One was how do 769 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: you feel Hernandez did on his uh in in his 770 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: uh during the game. And the other thing was just 771 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: wondering what the Giants did differently defensively from the first 772 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: half in the second half that seemed to make such 773 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: a big difference. And that's all I got, Thank you, Jason. 774 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: I thought Hernandez had some good plays, but I thought 775 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: he had enough bad ones too, where he allowed a 776 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: couple of penetrations on someplace. And then in terms of 777 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: the defense, and I don't mean to be crass about this, um, 778 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: I think it helped a lot that letter four Net 779 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: wasn't playing. I think that was part of it, um. 780 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: But I do think they did a little bit of 781 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: a better job, um not leaving holes in the line 782 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: of scrimmage for yelled in to run through. And they 783 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: are a little bit more disciplined on some of the bordles, 784 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: rolls out, rollouts and stuff like that. But I think 785 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: not having for net, look that that guy's special. He's 786 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: a difference maker. Yeah, you can't ignore that. There's no 787 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: question about that job. I did think their gap integrity 788 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: was better in the second and I also thought their 789 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: pursuit and gang tackling was much better in the second half. 790 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: They got many more guys around the ball, even secondary guys. 791 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: And when I say secondary, I'm not talking about defensive backs. 792 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about secondary guys to the ball. Um And 793 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, look, Betcher himself said to us yesterday it 794 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: was right. The coordinators talked yesterday that there were a 795 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: lot of different scenes that he was watching the film 796 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: on where he saw nine and ten guys in the frame. Well, 797 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: that's what you want, that's the whole idea. So um, 798 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: they feel as though if they just get started quicker 799 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: that there'll be a much better shape. How about her Nandez? 800 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: I thought Hernandez was a mixed bag like everybody else 801 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: on that line. I'm not excusing anybody. I'm with you, 802 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 1: none of them. That's what I that that That's how 803 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: I opened the show on Monday. So we're on the 804 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: same page with that. Uh. David Cranford's up next day, Dave, 805 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: are you guys, Yes, um, hey, I just want to 806 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: ask real quick and anybody heard from Alanna. I guess 807 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: was wondering down how he's dealing with the weather. He 808 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: lives down in the Carolina's right now. He is in Columbia, Maryland, 809 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: so he should be thankfully. We do have a couple 810 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: of guys. We got Drew in North Carolina though, um, 811 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: who's one of our callers? We got uh, Shawn's down 812 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: in the Carolinas too, right? Or is d d Sean 813 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: might be in DC. Yeah, but we definitely do have 814 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: some UM callers down there in the Carolinas. Every down 815 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: there is hopefully evacuated when they were supposed to and 816 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: staying here. Are you sure that's where Lynn lives? I 817 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: just thought Columbia was his middle name, in Maryland was 818 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: his last I just want to make a couple of 819 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 1: comments about this game. I really like how this game 820 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: is going to shape up for us, and I'll tell 821 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: you why. I'll tell you things that I think are 822 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: going to really help and then things that I would 823 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: be um that I think Dallas will try to do 824 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: against us. And the things I really like is um 825 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: is the tape that Barkley put on and the fact 826 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: that he you know, he could have had that. You know, 827 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: he could have had his first game and take out 828 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: the big run. And and you know, he doesn't put 829 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: anything on tape to kind of show, but I think 830 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he was able to um and he 831 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: had he actually had a couple of good runs. He 832 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: had a really nice screen pass. You get a couple 833 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: of good first down runs, one right, one left. Um. 834 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, I 835 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: think he got the attention of the Dallas defense. When 836 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, you go against Jacksonville and you and you 837 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 1: put up that type of a run, it's it's definitely 838 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: going to get their attention, and you hear it coming 839 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 1: out of Dallas. And the reason I think it's important 840 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: is this is the first time in a long time 841 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: that the defense has been sitting there thinking about how 842 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: to stop Odell and somebody else. They've never they've never 843 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: had to do that. And all it takes, as you 844 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: guys know and complimentary football, is you know that defensive 845 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 1: back to be peeking into the back stield and worried 846 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: about setting the edge or whatever it is um for 847 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: Odell to to go off. And so I really think 848 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: on offense we're going to have a chance, and I 849 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: like the matchups. I think I think, um, what happened 850 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville was very much you know, they contested a 851 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of balls as in their speed, and I think 852 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: they're going to just have a little bit more separation 853 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: against that secondary and the linebackers, and I think that's 854 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: going to make a big, big difference in terms of 855 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: how we're going to perform on offense. Dave, you know, 856 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: if if you've been listening for the last couple of weeks, 857 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that I harped on going into the 858 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville game, and I really believed that it was to 859 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: the Giants advantage. John can testify to this, and I 860 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: think it's to their advantage all season long. This is 861 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: the first time that the Giants have had this many 862 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: potential game breakers on a play who can make you 863 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: pay for a mistackle since the two thousand eleven season 864 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: they had Cruise, Manningham, Bradshaw and Nick's okay, four guys 865 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: who could make you pay for a big play fifty yards, 866 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: sixty yards a touchdown if you will, any time that 867 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: they got into space and if you missed the tackle, well, 868 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: now they've got four guys. Again, they haven't had more 869 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: than basically one in Beckham since that line. And and 870 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: you know because CRUs when when he and back and 871 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: played together for a very short time, the cruise was 872 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: her yep. So that you know. So now they got four, 873 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: they got four and by the way, the Yard Barkley 874 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,959 Speaker 1: touchdown force four miss tackles on the play. Okay, that's 875 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That's what makes this Giant's defense 876 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: offense so critical. But you know, one of Barkley's first 877 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: great runs was that was the first down. I was 878 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: the second drive of the game where Telvin Smith came 879 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: up on him and he stiff armed Telvin and got 880 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: to the edge and that's where you know, very the 881 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: corner hit pit heads. But but it was you know, 882 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: those type of players are gonna are gonna be there, 883 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: and I think you're you're gonna see that. And the 884 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: other thing is about Shermer in terms of his scheme. 885 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: One of the things that you look back last year 886 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: in Minnesota's offense was that Shermer was famous because he 887 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: knows that teams are obviously looking at the same tape 888 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: that he'll come out week two. Um, you know, with 889 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: the same formations and will it'll look like this, you know, 890 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: and he knows that the defense is sitting there saying, oh, 891 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: we've studied this, we saw this formation, and he'll do 892 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: something different. He'll target a different receiver, or he'll run 893 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: versus The time when they wear in that formation and 894 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: they passed or pass versus run, and they had a 895 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: lot of success with that, and I think you're going 896 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: to see that this week. That's why it kills me 897 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: to say this because it's an NFC East, it's Dallas, YadA, YadA, YadA. 898 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: But I actually think the Giants have a really good 899 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: chance of going in there and putting up some some 900 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: really big points. The only thing I'll leave you on 901 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: defense is is setting the edge. I think that Dallas, 902 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: if I'm them, I run back on a couple of 903 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: boots around to the right edge simply to free up 904 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: the middle power run and not have guys being able 905 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: to bounce down. And I think the Giants in some 906 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: ways has to trust I like our inside match up 907 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: against their inside offsensive line, and those guys b J. Hill, 908 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: Tomlinson snacks, They've got to be able to hold up 909 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: on that power run to keep that edge so that 910 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: when Dac does that, you know he's not running down 911 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: the field thirty or forty yards. So like the game, 912 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: I know you guys are super busy. I'm always amazed 913 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: at how much work goes into it for you guys. 914 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: From today, I mean, I know you worked hard all week, 915 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: but from today until you know Monday morning, you guys 916 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: are working your butts off. But your coverage is awesome. 917 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: And I'll talk to you next week. Thank you, Dave, 918 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: thank you. We want to remind you that Big bo 919 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: Kick Golf Life is presented by Cores Light download the 920 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: Coors Light Rewards after an amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. 921 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: And Paul looking at the tape, we did see um 922 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys run read option last week there, but Prescott 923 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: didn't keep it. No, I don't think he kept it 924 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: once on one of those plays, to be honest with you. 925 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: They were in that one standard option play for the 926 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: pitch for the touchdown, but we didn't see him keep 927 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: it on a read option during the game. So I 928 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: will not be surprised if you saw that unveiled a 929 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: little bit this week. You heard me ask Mackey does 930 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,479 Speaker 1: he does is he going to see that stuff and 931 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 1: want to run it because we have seen the Giants 932 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: in that particular instance not have the containment that they 933 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: need and OV is not coming at this week. And 934 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: when I jumped on the Cowboys podcast yesterday, they had 935 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: an interesting discussion as to whether or not the Cowboys 936 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: should almost go to a more college style offense because 937 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: of Jack Prescott's running ability and take advantage of that. 938 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: But then does that retard his progress as a NFL 939 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: passer by ask him to do those things that he 940 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 1: used to do in college. So that's kind of the trick, 941 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, forget about progress, You do 942 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: what you have to do that week in that matchup 943 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: to win the game, and then we'll see what they 944 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: do do a one four or five, one three. We 945 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: want to remind you Kick Off Blue, Big Big Blue. 946 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: Kick Off Live Excuse Me is presented by Corpse Light. 947 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: Download the Coors Light rewards apt to an amazing Giants 948 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: prizes throughout the season. Tony and Huntingdon Beach, California, by 949 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: the way, Join North Carolina tweeted us. He said he's 950 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: away from the bad stuff and he's good and safe, 951 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: So that's good to hear. Let's go to Tony, Tony, 952 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: what's up? Hey? Doing well? Tone? What's up, buddy? Thank 953 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: you for taking my call. I really enjoy your program 954 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: and always try to squeeze it in after I work 955 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: my dog in the morning. Appreciate good stuff. Yeah. So, anyway, 956 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: we're all the negative stuff that I've heard on your 957 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: program about the Giants in the first week. Ever since 958 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: they signed this new collective boggeting thing, the first four 959 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 1: games of every season has been really the training camp. 960 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: Teams don't start to jail until week four and five. 961 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: And when you look at the Giant roster, I mean 962 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: over fifty of the players are gone from last year, 963 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: and um, you know they have to start to work together. 964 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,479 Speaker 1: And preseason there was nothing. I mean there was only 965 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 1: one game that they played together and the three days 966 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,479 Speaker 1: in Detroit. But other than that, nobody got any playing time. 967 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: You know, many not learn how is receiver's cut and 968 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: all that stuff and get their timing down and everything. 969 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: I thought the Giants did a great job playing against Jacksonville, 970 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: who has been consistent the last two or three years. 971 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: They didn't need that much of a training camp to 972 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: be ready to play, and I think they did a 973 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 1: great job against them. Tony, you have just talked about 974 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: the one thing that gives me an ecceteran headache because 975 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: us You've got coaches around the NFL. Okay, Uh, maybe 976 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: they could be after this. Uh, how is it that 977 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 1: all of these coaches around the league want to play 978 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: their regulars and their starters fewer and fewer preseason snaps 979 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: because they want to protect them from getting hurt. I 980 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: get it, there's a salary cap, there's a lot of 981 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: money invested in those starters, so if they get banged 982 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: up and hurt during the preseason game, it's a real 983 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: stab in the back. I totally understand that. But look 984 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 1: what happens to the quality of play in September when 985 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: you don't play these guys. There's a trade off, There's 986 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 1: an absolute trade off, and it's it's a horrible trade off. Look, 987 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm gonna I'm not gonna hide this. No, 988 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: but Tony, hold on, but Tony, it's not just the Giants. 989 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,280 Speaker 1: NFL team really treats us the same way, and in fact, 990 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: other teams play their starters less than the Giants do 991 00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: in the preseason. It's really didn't play lost well. The 992 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: reason that happens because most of the time when you 993 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: have a first year coach is because your team was 994 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: bad the last year. So but but, but you know, 995 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: Elliott did not play one snap the whole preseason for 996 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. John bare barely played. I mean, this is 997 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: the way the league has become because these coaches are 998 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: gun shy about putting their starters into these preseason games. 999 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: But Tony, and and look here here's my issue. And 1000 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: I haven't sat down with coach Sherman to talk about this, 1001 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: so maybe it's unfair that I even say this on 1002 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: the program. But with five news starters on the offensive 1003 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: line to only get five quarters of preseason football, everything 1004 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: I know about an offensive line screams you need more 1005 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: snaps than that if you're going to start to mesh. 1006 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: But the bad news is because of the environment of 1007 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: today's NFL, coaches are reluctant to give them more. And 1008 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: this is the dilemma. And this is the result of 1009 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: what you get it stakes I get it, Tony, But 1010 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: how how are you going to force the coaches to 1011 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: get these guys on the field. I don't know what 1012 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: you do how, because they have every right to be 1013 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: afraid that their guys are gonna get hurt and they're 1014 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: gonna get jammed up under the cap. I understand the fear. 1015 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: How do you get rid of it? How do you 1016 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: change it? How do you? You don't well, but but okay, 1017 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: So the only thing you can do is maybe may 1018 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: by the agreement with the player exactly. The only thing 1019 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: you may be able to do is to change the 1020 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: c B A, which you're gonna need the union's cooperation 1021 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: on to allow them to prepare better over the summer. Okay, 1022 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: like they used to be able to or can to 1023 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: place a bet on whether that's gonna happen. It's never 1024 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Okaycel twice a day and work right. The 1025 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: only other thing I could see, Tony, and I wonder 1026 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: if this might be something that's doable. Coach Schummer is 1027 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: among several coaches now who thought that the dual practice 1028 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: against another team during the week was a little bit 1029 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: better than a regular practice and maybe in some ways 1030 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: more important and more valuable than preseason game. Maybe every 1031 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: team needs to have to week long practice sessions with 1032 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: other teams. That's what Detroit did this year, and the 1033 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: Giants were their second week of practice. They did the 1034 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: Raiders the first week and the Giants the second week. 1035 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: That's that's that's a lock though, count of course, how 1036 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: did that work out for the Lions? And see who 1037 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: you want to? Thank you, Tony. We gotta run pal 1038 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: get the call a league problem, Sure it is. Oh, 1039 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: it's a league problem. Look, we talked about it last week, 1040 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: Paul and we had a little mini strum on the 1041 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: pregame show talking about how, you know the lack of 1042 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: preseason and my point is that offense look at a 1043 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: sink and they do. Your point was that guys miss 1044 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: too many tackles. They do, so it's just not sharp 1045 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: play because of the lack of action in the preseasons. 1046 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: Just the way it is, hence the quicksand of mediocrity. 1047 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: All Right, we got a couple more calls before we 1048 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: say goodbye. Let's go to Michael Pennsylvania online too. Mike, 1049 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: what's up? John? PAULA happy Friday? Happy Friday, Mike? What somebody? Uh? No, 1050 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: I was wondering that Paul could give me some fantasy 1051 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: football advice. You don't want to do that, please go ahead? 1052 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: Really don't want to do go ahead? Mike. I had 1053 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: to give it a shot Mike, Mike here. It is 1054 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: my fantasy football advice star Phil Sims No no, no, no, 1055 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: is that fantasy football would go away forever. That's my 1056 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: that's my fantasy football advice and wish for everybody. Know 1057 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: what I was actually wondering. I get the whole strong 1058 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: side weak side argument, but it seemed like they barely 1059 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: ever ran the ball up to the left side this 1060 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: past game, and I was wondering if you could set 1061 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: some light on if that's going to be a trend 1062 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: or if you know the game plan might change coming up. Well, 1063 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: if you're going to run it to the left, that 1064 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: means it's gonna be behind Solder, who was a better 1065 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: pass block or that a blocker. So that's gonna be 1066 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: part of the reason why you might shy away from 1067 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: that side. But you have your mall or her Nanda's 1068 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: on that side too, which makes a big which makes 1069 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: a difference, right, well, it could. It depends how you're 1070 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: gonna run. Always pull him and run right there. Also 1071 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: more likely you'd probably run in between Soldier and her 1072 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: Nandez and run on the inside of the tackle and 1073 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: try to run up her Nandez's back. That's what I 1074 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: would do if I was going to run left right. 1075 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: That's what well, I mean, that's kind of what I 1076 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: was expecting for the entire offseason, as soon as we 1077 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: try to stay No, I didn't seem like we did 1078 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: that at all. I think you're run Barkley anywhere on 1079 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: the field that he can. I was gonna say, you 1080 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: know what, Barkley time making a run with a place 1081 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 1: design to go anyway. He's gonna find his own space. 1082 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: He's an instinctive kind of guy, right right, right, All right, Well, 1083 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, guys. OK, And that was thanks for 1084 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: calling in. I'm I'm working on with Dave. Paul's gonna 1085 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: have his own fantasy football column every week on giants 1086 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: dot Com. It before yeah, yeah, Well, actually, you know what, 1087 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 1: I think. We're at a time, right Brandon. We we 1088 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: have to rap. We have to say goodbye. No we 1089 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: can we please say goodbye? No? Hi, Charlie, how are you? Hey? Guys? 1090 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: What's up? Pal? Remember Hey Charlie, Remember what I told 1091 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 1: you though, You're not to talk about flowers to me 1092 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: till after the first four games of the season. Hey, 1093 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, No, you cannot. I will not 1094 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: discuss him. I'll talk to him then go ahead, but 1095 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: do not mention will beati, I will hang up on you. No, 1096 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: I won't go. But let me say that Deeric Flowers 1097 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,240 Speaker 1: had a rating of thirty eight point five and task protection. 1098 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: He had like two penalties that cost us a bunch 1099 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: of yards. He had over seven, Charlie, this is five 1100 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: days ago. We know we didn't play well. We get it. 1101 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: What's your point? But the thing is it's not just 1102 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: fun game. He hasn't been playing well for three plus years. 1103 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: And the thing is I don't understand is when he says, 1104 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: I know you guys took it. You took his comment 1105 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: one way, but the way he said it and the 1106 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: way he meant it was he doesn't do any film studying, Charlie. 1107 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: They watch, Charlie, they watch game film in the meeting room. 1108 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: The coach literally plays it in front of his face. 1109 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: I promise you he's seen it. Is he sleeping or 1110 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: is he just not paying attention, or that he doesn't 1111 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: retain it. But anyway, and not only that, and then 1112 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: we don't do our due diligence, and we bring in nobody, 1113 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: no offensive veteran tackle to try out the Texans did 1114 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: They brought in Austin Howard and they brought him Chris Clark. 1115 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: And let me ask you, did those guys stick around. 1116 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, they might, but we didn't even do 1117 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: due diligence just to bring somebody in in case Flowers 1118 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't see anybody sign and playing week one 1119 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 1: and change teams, you know, during that time. And Charlie, 1120 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: how you know what twenty five players were here the 1121 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday before the season started working out Because I saw 1122 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: the list. It was like too offensive lineman, lineman, one 1123 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: who was sharp, and the other guy I've never even 1124 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: heard of. So what I'm saying is and we did 1125 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: sign some defensive lineman who is turned into an offensive 1126 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: lineman who's probably a two year project. Charlie, do you 1127 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 1: know what that tells you? The guys that do this 1128 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: girl a living don't think the veterans you're talking about 1129 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: her any good. They watched them on film last year. 1130 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: They don't think they're good. They looking at this guy, 1131 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: it's horrible guy. All I can tell you is that 1132 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: if the Giants front office thought that somebody sitting on 1133 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: the street would play better than Eric Flowers at right tackle, 1134 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: they would have been in the building in uniform on 1135 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday or Monday of this week. That would have happened. 1136 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: I promise you that they now. Look, you can disagree 1137 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: with them, that's fine, but they know who's out there, 1138 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: and then that's okay. But the people that do this 1139 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: for a living and know a lot more about offensive 1140 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: line play than I do, then, Paul, doesn't you do 1141 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: They've watched these guys fears this, this, this, dozens of 1142 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: games of Austin Howard on tape. Dozen's They know what 1143 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: he can do. They know what these guys that are 1144 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: out there can do. Pasture all the other guys you've 1145 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: mentioned a million times. They've seen them on tape. They 1146 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: know what they are. They and every other NFL team 1147 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want them. There's not one of them better than 1148 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,919 Speaker 1: what let Eric Flowers showed us on the first week. 1149 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: But if those guys are so good, how come they 1150 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: not on any team? When the offensive line issues around 1151 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 1: the league is an epidemic and no one has an 1152 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: offensive line they're happy with? How come no one has 1153 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: signed these gaps up way wait wait, sec But Charlie, 1154 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: by your reasoning, Kara Williams and and Looney who allowed 1155 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: five combined sacks last week. Should have both been cut Monday, because, 1156 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: according to you, anytime there's a bad performance by an 1157 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, he should be jettisoned out the door and 1158 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: they should go find somebody else. Flowers has been in 1159 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: the league three plus years, Fowers. But the thing is like, 1160 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: just like, oh, mommy right, he played terrible too, But 1161 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: guess what, we have two veteran guards behind him that 1162 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: can play just as well, if not better. Allowed you 1163 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: to suck me into this conversation. I don't believe it, Charlie. Please, 1164 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: I know there's a home deepo up there in Maine. 1165 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: Go find some big six foot five guy at the 1166 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: cash register and ask him if he wants to try 1167 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: out for a football team. You can pay his way 1168 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: down here and if they'll take a look at him, 1169 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: we'll let you know what they say. Okay, Hey, you 1170 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: know what Shannon chop said about Eric Flowers. He couldn't 1171 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: even block the sun out of his eyes. I mean, 1172 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: everybody knows this, every BT writer, every person in this world, 1173 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: and the NFL knows this guy can't play. But we're 1174 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: the only one. And I think you should change your 1175 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: name from BB Charlie denials Charlie hold On a second 1176 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: time out, time out, time out. Last year, in all seriousness, 1177 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers played better than Bobby Hart. Okay, he did. 1178 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: He was. Look at the Pro Football Focus ratings, whatever 1179 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: you want to look at. Flowers played better than Bobby 1180 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Heart last year. Okay, So why is Bobby Heart starting 1181 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: a tackle for the Bengals if Eric Flowers is though? 1182 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers is so bad and wouldn't be on any 1183 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: team and wouldn't make a roster. How come the guy 1184 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: that he was better than last year is starting for 1185 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Explain that to please give him a 1186 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: lot of help, which we don't give Flowers. Oh so 1187 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: now it's not flowers fault. Then the Cincinnati game, there 1188 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: was a tight end over there all the time helping you. 1189 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: That's one reason. And then you have them come out 1190 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: and say, Nope, our guys a gotta have the one 1191 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: on one. They have to win it. They just if 1192 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: they're If you go up against Lawrence, he's just gonna 1193 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: have He doesn't have to beat Lauren's one on one 1194 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: every time, but occasionally he is going to have to 1195 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: block a man on Eddy can't get help on every play. Charlie, 1196 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: the problem is you are the persona for kidation of 1197 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: the exact problem that John talked about before. The scars 1198 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and the bruises over the last several years have affected 1199 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: you so badly that you're just bleeding profusely from every 1200 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: orifice in your body. And it's a shame. It's a 1201 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: shame because you need to understand. It's a clean slate 1202 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: this year, with clean coaching staffs right from top to bottom. 1203 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: It's a clean slate. It's one game, that's it. I'm 1204 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: not telling, as the words have never come out of 1205 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: my mouth that Eric Flowers is this great right tackle. 1206 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: I've never said that. In fact, I made the argument 1207 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: back in the spring that I had a think moving 1208 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: in would help. I've never made that point. The point 1209 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: is that it's an epidemic around the league. There are 1210 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: a fewer good offensive tackles in the NFL right now 1211 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: then there are anythinglayer at any position, including quarterbacks. Like 1212 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: it's like spreading. But okay, I'll ask you to that. Yeah, 1213 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: real quick, Flowers like he did last week the same 1214 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: way this week. That's not good. To get rid of 1215 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 1: this guy unless there's somebody that I think is better. No, 1216 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: if he's the best guy that I think is available. 1217 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: And Charlie, I will tell you he outplayed Chad Wheeler 1218 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: in the off season. He did, there's no question because 1219 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,919 Speaker 1: there's nobody good on the street, Charlie, there's nobody good 1220 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 1: on the street, and they were God. I gotta go, Brandon, 1221 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: say goodbye, Charlie. I love you. Enjoy the weekend and 1222 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: and hopefully we can discuss a win on month. So 1223 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 1: now he wants two new tackles, including the guy who 1224 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 1: hardly even played. He wants to get rid of him 1225 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 1: to now. And guys, there's just guys. They're not good 1226 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: tackles on the street. They're just aren't. Did you see 1227 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: who the Browns started offensive tackle in Week one? The 1228 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: guy who's twenty five years old? There was an undrafted 1229 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: free agent at A well East Carolina A and t 1230 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: t Come on, guys, there's just not Desmond Harrison. There's 1231 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 1: not a lot of good offensive tackles on the street. 1232 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: It's an epidemic around the league. The Giants aren't alone, 1233 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: they're not. They happen to play poorly last week against 1234 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: a really good front and you deal with it. I 1235 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, if the Giants thought 1236 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: somebody out there was better, they'd bring him in. They don't, 1237 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: so they don't. Charlie is the kind of guy who 1238 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: goes on a safari to Africa and actually expects to 1239 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 1: find a unicorn. You went unicorn? Huh? I don't think unicorns. 1240 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: I feel like the unicorns are more of an Arctic creature. Right, 1241 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: do you think they'd be more in like the North Pole, 1242 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: whatever they would be. I don't see them in a 1243 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: good luck trying to find one where they're all white. 1244 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: You know, you can't blend into your surroundings if you're 1245 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: like in the serengetti or in the jungle, if you're 1246 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: white unicorn, if you could be more in the snow? Right? Right? 1247 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: Can we say goodbye? I need one of these. We're 1248 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna remind you that Big Blue Kickoff Live is presented 1249 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: by cores Light. Download the cores Light rewards after an 1250 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. Um Paul two seconds 1251 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Um just final final thoughts prediction for the game. I 1252 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: need to score. Just how it's gonna go. I think 1253 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be more of a low scoring affair, kind 1254 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 1: of a grinded out, ugly game. Who NFC East team 1255 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: is kind of battling it out. I think something like 1256 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: seventeen somewhere in that. I like the Giants by a 1257 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: touchdown midway through the fourth quarter. They'll get a late 1258 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: score to kind of open up the final tally. Okay, 1259 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: I actually think the Giants have a real good chance 1260 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: to win this game too. I think if all things 1261 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: are even and neither team, you know, gives it away 1262 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: with turnovers everything, I think the Giants have a real 1263 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: good chance to win. I really do. We'll see what 1264 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: happens Sunday night football. You want to listen on the 1265 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 1: radio w f A n pre game at six twenty. 1266 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: Myself and Paul will be in Dallas. Lance Meadow and 1267 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Jeff Beagles will be at Barley Corn at Lower Manhattan. 1268 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: You want to see what Lance Lance Meadows like it 1269 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: a in a social situation and see how awkward it is. 1270 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: Go check it out, folks, that a park place of 1271 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: it head on Sunday night. He'll be there with Jeff Eagles, 1272 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: So I'm sure try to give a hard time. Don't 1273 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: break your neck looking down. Actually they leave not they 1274 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 1: have him on like an elevated platform. Oh that's cool 1275 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 1: helping them out. Yeah. I hope it's tall, so make 1276 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 1: sure you check that out. Of course, the game can 1277 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 1: be seen on NBC Sunday Night Football For Paul the Tino, 1278 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm Josh, will see next anybody audience