WEBVTT - The OTP with David Keith 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.520 This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.320 Get the home field advantage with healthcare coverage from Farm 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:20.560 Bureau Health Plans. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:25.400 forty seven. Mike Keith with Aby Wells Amy. How are you, Mike, 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.920 I'm so, I'm really excited about our guest and I 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.200 want to I want to introduce him, and this could 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.320 I could make this introduction like an hour. David Keith 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.640 has been in so many movies and television shows. Here's 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:48.120 some of my favorites. Bru Baker, The Rose, Heartbreak, Hotel, Firestarter, Daredevil, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.000 The Great Santini, The Lords of Discipline, Behind Enemy Lines, 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.360 The Indian in the Cupboard, and one for which he's 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.240 maybe may be best known, An Officer and a gentleman 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:04.000 TV series, Hawaii five Regular Role, Law and Order. I 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.440 even remember co Ed Fever, which was his first TV series. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.440 He won't he won't even know I remember that, David Keith. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:15.440 Welcome to the Official Podcast the OTP. I can't believe 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.200 you brought up Coed Fever. Boy. That was bad. When 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.759 you're someone's cousin, you've seen everything they've done. Well, Mike, 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.720 you took my first question. I want to know exactly 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.319 how you guys are related, because there might be a 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:34.600 little confusion. Our grandfathers were brothers. Okay, our grandfather Keith 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.280 and my grandfather was about sixteen, I think when my 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.520 uncle Gilmer, Mike's grandfather was born and so and their 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.440 parents died not long after that. So the older siblings 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.040 in that family, and I think there were eleven I'm 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.640 not sure. I may be wrong at eleven, thirteen to nine, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.000 but what it was a bunch of them, and the 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.320 older ones raised the younger ones. So my Papal is 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:01.160 almost like a dad to my uncle Gil. He was. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.520 He actually forced him. It was during the depression. My 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.040 grandfather had dropped out of school because he had to 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.480 go to work, and your grandfather forced him to come 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.560 live with him so he would finish high school. And 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.440 think about how that changed his life because he got 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.639 a great job with General Foods and had a successful 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.280 career and kind of, you know, passed along good things 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.079 to the rest of our family. And so, yeah, that's 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.440 a good family story. They were two of thirteen. David's 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:38.040 granddad was second. My granddad was thirteenth. So that was 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.280 the difference. I think Uncle Fred was first. Was he 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.600 the oldest? Yes? Okay, so there you go, Aby, that's 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.680 more than you and the rest of the ot people 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.239 wanted to know. I don't think that's true. I think 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.720 that's a great family story. When I told everybody that 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:58.160 David was going to do the podcast, they said, you've 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.800 got to ask him about Major League and the Jack 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.919 Parkman shimmy. Do you get more people ask you about 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.000 Jack Parkman than any other character at this part of 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.560 your life? I guess now that the officer and a 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:14.960 gentleman people are all in nursing homes. What I used 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.239 to get all the time was bodacious set of tatas, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.640 which is a line actually threw in myself. It was 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.560 a different, different lineup through that in or did you 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.359 really swallow the ring? Those two things from officer, but 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.520 from from young men. They want me to do the 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:37.360 Parkman shimmy like basketball games, and you know, they've got 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.240 a big head of me, and some of the students 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.360 have seen that. Most of the kid college kids now 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.680 remember from from Indian in the cupboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.320 that makes sense. Well, I want to stick with Major 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.080 League two for a second because I've seen a lot 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.680 of sports movies, and I always wonder can people in 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.000 these movies actually play the sports that they are portraying? 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.960 Like Major League too, there had to be some people 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.040 who were legit good at baseball and some people who 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.920 really weren't. Who were some of those people. None of 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:13.040 the actors on the team were were not good at baseball. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.880 Most everybody had played, I guess in their youth, but 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:20.680 they certainly, you know, they were fine at practice. I mean, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.800 we had some minor league players that were extras, and 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.599 we weren't up to their caliber. But the hardest time 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.760 I had was I hadn't gotten a new prescription of 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.240 my contacts, and so I go to practice with my 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.120 glasses on and hit the ball great. And then it 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.480 came time, you know, in front of when the cameras 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.560 are rolling, and I have my contacts, and it'd be 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.599 was really cold at night in Camden Yards, and the 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.960 contacts were like sticking to my eye lids. And I 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.080 stood there at the play whiffing it over and over, 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:54.400 finally connected and put it in the outfield. So oh, no, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.080 eyes are so important in baseball you don't think about it. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.919 And if I'd only thought ahead of time. Man, Just 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.000 save me some embarrassment. You have some baseball skills, but 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:08.280 you're really a football fan, right. I've always said basketball 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.159 is my favorite sport. Football is my religion. I love that. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.680 I might steal that. Actually, you know, the University of 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.279 Tennessee football in my household was too important to enjoy. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.720 I mean, if the balls lost on Saturday, you didn't 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.960 go around my dad about Wednesday, you know, when you 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.600 knew the next game was coming up. I mean it was. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.640 It was really bordering on nuts, you know it was. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.040 It was. It was like having a distant relative in 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:39.320 major surgery every Saturday. Imagine I feel these days. Is 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.640 it true that you had a role on like within 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.800 the Tennessee Balls program and maybe the Dallas Cowboys program. Oh, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.240 I'll tell you those stories. So when in nineteen sixty seven, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.479 when I was thirteen years old and my dad had 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.960 been taking me some games, it just wasn't enough to 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.520 sit and stands. That's part of my personality, just overdue, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.280 overdue anyway. So I got a job as an equipment 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.560 manager when I was thirteen, and then I played my 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.080 last season of football the following year, and then went 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.039 back as an equipment manager and continued to work until 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.640 seventy one, when I was a junior in high school. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.840 So I worked at games in the practices. I was 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.039 Bill Battle's ball boy when he was the receiver's coach 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.400 before he became the head coach, and it was so 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.400 much fun. And I got hit, especially when you were 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.080 practicing with the smaller bowl squad and the managers had 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.520 to like play cornerback with an air shield. I got 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.800 knocked all over the place, but it was a real joy. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.960 And then when I became a little bit of a celebrity, 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.600 Doug Dickey invited me to come back to the games, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.919 and I said, I really want to be on the sidelines. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.400 So he hooked me back up with the old manager's coach, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.159 George Cafego, and they gave me a coach's uniform, and 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.919 I was on the sidelines until I guess two thousand 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.840 and seven or eight with the Tennessee football team. I 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.560 had to put in my movie contracts that I had 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.640 to be I had to be finished by Friday evening 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.719 so I could make a flight back if I was 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.599 in Canada or the continental United States. I had to 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.920 make a flight back to every Tennessee game, and a 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.160 lot of movies shot on Saturday back then, so I 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.360 had to be scheduled out on Saturday. And then when 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.480 Bill Bates got on the sidelines with the Cowboys, he 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.600 got me on the sidelines with the Cowboys and they 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.520 had me down there for a few games. They said, look, 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.360 you're not allowed to be down here without some kind 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.679 of job. So I carried one of those gigantic old 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:34.000 video recorders for KXAS out of Fort Worth on my shoulder, 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.920 carried that around for a season. And then Tom Landry's 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.080 final season, Greg Ilo, who was director of operations at 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.560 the time, got me a job carrying Tom Landry's headphones 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.000 and standing next to Tom Landry through the whole game. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.920 And I mean there were so many That was a 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.320 terrible season and his last season, and it ended in 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.040 such heartbreak with him getting fired. But one of the 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:02.760 amazing things that I remember is he would he would 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.800 call the receivers, he'd call a time out if things 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.560 weren't working, he'd call the receivers over and the quarterback 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.800 and he'd take a piece of paper and a sharpie 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.000 and redesign the pass routes, send them back in completion, 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:18.440 completion touchdown. Completion completion touchdown was amazing. Another tidbit that 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.360 I want to impart to all football receivers. He would say, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.040 never jump when the ball is coming at you unless 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.360 you got to you know, high point it and catch it. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.520 Never have your body going perpendicular to the path of 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.600 the ball, because it just adds another movement and adds 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.040 another element to the possible inaccuracy of the throw. But 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.559 I see players do that all the time. You know, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.480 they were to go across the middle, and they leave 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.320 their feet and so their body's going this way and 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.679 the ball hits it bounces off. Can I just hit 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.120 on something real quick? Did you say that you wrote 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:56.160 into your movie contracts like it was a real thing 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.800 that you had to be at these games? Well, I 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:03.240 didn't personally write it, my lawyer did. But yeah, well right, wow. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.920 Ever a time you had to turn something down or 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.400 maybe not be a part of something. No, but they 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.680 wouldn't agree to it in Major League two because they 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.120 would fill the stadium with thirty thousand not filled, but 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.280 they put thirty thousand fans. Well, I guess it was 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.840 full in Camden Yards on Saturdays because when people were 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.440 off from work. That's when we had to shoot all 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.920 the big Wide Masters of Baseball games and so forth. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.880 And so I missed four games that season, and it 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.160 was very painful, but they were very nice. They put 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.120 the Tennessee games on the JumboTron so that I could 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.920 watch them, you know, them between shots. And I remember 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.120 one time I took. I didn't get along with the 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.280 first assistant director on that and I left one Saturday 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.880 morning and flew home to Knoxville, got off the plane 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.120 and they said, mister Keith, you have a message from 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:55.600 your movie. Come. You have to get right back on 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.640 your plane. They need you for a shot. So I 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.840 fly back up there and they needed running out of focus, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.520 running from second to third in the background of a shot. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.440 That's all they needed. And I had to miss the 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:15.560 Tennessee Alabama game. Oh oh, that's brutal. I've never forgiven him. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.520 I get it. Well. I assume that not everyone in 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.080 Hollywood is as fanatical about football as you are, but 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.679 there must be some actors who are. Who are some 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.120 of those actors who care about sports, specifically football, as 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.360 much as you, Well, I none as much as me. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.640 I would venture to say that no one has ever 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.040 been so adamant that they would have a clause put 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:43.120 in a contract like that. It's a power move. You know. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.920 Charlie Sheen likes Notre Dame because his dad liked Notre Dame. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.400 So we sometimes we watched the Tennessee game and his 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.559 bus and then we watched the Notre Dame game. Or 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.760 at one time, Tennessee was killing Kentucky and the game 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.800 was almost over. The Notre Dame game was starting on 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.440 another channel, and he switched over the Notre Dame game 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.360 and it just killed me. I wanted to see a score, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:10.439 another touchdown. Here's what's cool about David. Though he's got 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:15.040 all these great stories. You have a Music City Miracle story. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.560 You were at Nissan Stadium for the Music City Miracle. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.760 Every great Titans fan has a Music City Miracle story, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.400 and you are no exception. Yeah. I was sitting in 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.520 your dad's seats, God bless him, the best seats in 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:33.240 the house. The problem was I believe that it was 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.480 a forward pass. I was positive it was a forward pass, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.880 so I was not cheering. I was not enjoying it. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.120 I was sitting there like this going and they're gonna 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.800 call it back and it's just matter, you know. I 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.280 start looking for flags. I don't see a flag. Everybody's 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:52.800 still going crazy. And then moments later I started celebrating, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.600 but it wasn't the same as that feeling you have, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.120 you know when it's real time and you know that's 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.720 gonna happen. You know they're gonna win. It's a touchdown. 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.960 So I was robbed of that because I just saw 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.199 it as a foreign pass. I still think it close. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.280 Everybody in Buffalo thinks it was, but everybody else thinks 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.800 we got it. So that's the way that works. Why 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.600 have you become so attached to the Titans, David See, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.080 I quit the Cowboys when they fired Landry. The Cowboys 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.000 were almost I was almost as crazy about them as 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:29.040 the Valls. But when they fired Tom Landry and I 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.520 couldn't pull for him at the time, it just killed me. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.440 And I actually got to mention that to Jerry Jones. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.240 I said, you know, you ruined every Sunday for me 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.000 for the rest of my life. And he said, well, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.160 if you ever get past this, you got a seat 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.120 in my box. Twenty years later, I'm shooting something in 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.080 Dallas and Bill Base is going to do the coin toss. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:49.880 Bill invites me to come with him. I go up 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.600 to Jerry on the sideline. So you remember our last conversation. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.120 He said, it's coming back to me. I said, well, 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.359 you still got a seat in that box. He said absolutely. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.959 So the family allows me in their box when I 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.000 want to go to a Cowboy game. So but anyway, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.120 I digress. As usual, for the Oilers to come to 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.720 Tennessee was such a great feeling for me one because 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.280 Eddie George was on the team and I was a 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.760 huge fan of Eddie George is. In fact, when Eddie 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.000 when Eddie was at a high state and he won 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:22.160 the Heisman Trophy and Tennessee beat them in the not 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.480 the gated role. What was the other bowl? Centres thought 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.440 was it the centres? Well, I thought it was in Tampa. Anyway, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.680 So he has had the worst game of his career. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.720 He's coming off, he's surrounded by press and he's pushing 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.800 him away, pushing cameras away, and I NiFe through him 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.800 in my Tennessee guard and I grabbed him by their 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.320 jersey and I said, you are a great football player. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.000 You're one of the greatest football players in the world, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.400 and you're you have a huge future in front of you, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.000 and you need to put this day behind you and 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.480 forget about it and move on. You got a great 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.560 future in the NFL. And that actually came back to 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.600 me a few years later because he was with somebody 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.360 in La telling that story, because the guy he was 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.480 telling it to was the producer of a show I 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.680 was doing. So that came back and Eddie and I 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.040 became friends and hung out a little bit Nashville after that. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:16.480 But them coming there gave me a real true Sunday experience, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:21.600 another football Tennessee football experience. So I was a fan 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.120 from day one. I kind of like the Oilers anyway. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.200 I love those white blue jerseys and I love it 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.960 when the Titans wear light blue. But yeah, it was 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.400 just it was the greatest thing in the world to 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.600 have Sundays. So I've been a fan, huge fan. I know, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.840 you get connected to head coaches. What is it about 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.880 Mike Rabel that you like? Rabel is a stud and 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.000 the whole team knows it. And that is a real 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.880 primal thing between a coach and his players. No, no 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.720 one would want to fight him. I mean they might 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.640 whip him, but they would be rough and they would 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.200 not come out unscathed. That's a fundamental thing. I made 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.120 a couple other note to her about him, his demeanor 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:08.480 on the sidelines. He's just He is calm, he has 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:13.200 strength with emotion, and you can just see the camaraderie 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.080 with his players. You can see how much he cares 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.560 about them. He's their friend. He's not just their coach. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.360 He's their friend and buddy. You play a lot harder 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.720 for a friend than you do for a coach. Amy 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.360 knows this. When I do the games, Amy, Amy does 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.400 sidelines with us. I turned my phone off during the game, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.200 but the first thing I do when the game ends 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.040 is I turned my phone back on. And that's not 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.920 only for family in case something has gone on, but 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.360 also to kind of see what's happening in the locker 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.640 room and just to connect generally. One of the first 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.760 texts I've gotten is from David Keith, and normally it 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.160 revolves around Derreck Henry somehow, some way. I don't think 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.840 there is a bigger Derrick Henry fan in America than 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.080 David Keith. We can't give it to Eric Henry enough 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.160 for you, David, Is that accurate? I struggled this all 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.200 the time, because I want to protect him. They've got 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.640 they can't do what the New Jersey generals and Trump 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:17.160 did to herschel Walker. You know they can't, but my gosh. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.640 You know, intimidation is a defense, that's what they're supposed 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.240 to do. But with Henry, Henry offense is an intimidating offense. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.080 Now you've got a defense that's worrying about him all 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.040 the time. They're worrying about getting beat. And as they 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.680 get beat slowly through the day, they don't just get 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:41.840 damaged physically, they get damaged emotionally, psychologically, they start to 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.480 doubt themselves. And that is just a crucial tool for 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.920 an offensive to have. Um can you can imagine being 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:50.800 on the defense and wondering if you're the next guy 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.440 that's going to get, you know, shoved to the ground 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.600 like a little child. And and that's just He's just 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.320 a weapon that can't be ignored. And chickularly, you know, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.240 I during the Ravens game, one of the texts that 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.119 you know, I loved to winning the game, but we 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.840 should have never been been to overtime. We kicked three 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.720 field goals that at least two of which could have 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.840 been first downs. Or touchdowns. I mean throwing the ball 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:21.400 on second and five inside the ten, what it's four 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.080 dwn territory? And throwing the ball on third and two 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.639 with Derrick Henry it's four down territory. You tell me 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.000 that Derrick Henry can't get you five yards in three runs. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.840 You tell me he can't get you two yards and 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.520 two runs. No way. So I don't want him abused, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.479 but I want him used more often. Now. Play action, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.560 I think, is another thing. You know, when they'll hit 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.159 the line once or twice early in the game with Henry, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.120 and then here they come with the fun and gun, 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.520 you know, five wide, no empty backfield, and I just go, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.159 oh no, Now, everybody knows what you're gonna do. But 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:59.280 when he's back there, and you know, I love Tanny Hill, 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.399 but sometimes that fake to Derek Hanny ain't much of 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:05.000 a fake. It's kind of like they're going to pokes 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.520 them all, like somewhere in the general six feet from 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.520 Henry and then goes back to throw. But when he 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.480 puts it in his gut and pulls it back out, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.840 that whole defense has suckered because they have to be 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.440 because there's snake bit you know, even before they we've 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.719 played a team. There's snake bits from watching him, and 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.080 that's that's a that's a great place to put a 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.600 defense in. Is he a legitimate MVP candidate in your opinion? David, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.280 he is? He is. You know, it's gonna be tough 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.760 with Mahomes and and uh and u Bien Raethinsburger having 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.120 the kind of year they're having. But he's so much 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:43.280 more instrumental in the Titans success than other running backs 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.879 or any position to that matter. And I think he 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.560 is a legitimate candidate. And it means to be seen 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.600 what happens the rest of the season. But if he 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.439 keeps going like it's going now, yeah, he'd have my vote. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.000 Let me ask you a movie question about him, Eddie, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.080 were just gone to Hollywood and done some things. Do 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.680 you think Derrick Henry might have some sort of career 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.480 in him? Good, good looking guy, big guy, well known guy. 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.320 Would they stick him in a in an action movie somewhere? Well, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.159 you have to be able to act, so oh that's true, 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.680 and you can't. I mean there are people who just 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.439 can't get a line out. I mean they're just it 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.040 just doesn't work. It's nothing against him it's just they 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.119 don't know how to deliver a line, and that's it 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:34.560 has nothing to be intelligence either. Trust me, I've never 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.600 met a football player that didn't want to be an actor, 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.280 and I've never met an actor that didn't want to 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.880 be a football player. But it doesn't mean we can 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.840 do it. I noticed in the questions you sent me 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.320 you mentioned JJ Watt. You know he was great on SNL. Oh, yeah, 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.520 he was a good actor on SNL and I thought, man, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.640 I wish I had a way to send him a message, 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.399 you know, saying you were really good and this is 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.160 something you should consider, you know. I want to say 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.600 that to him. 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Titans fans 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.560 run on Duncan participation by very limited time off for 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.240 exclusions apply, David, I want to ask you about wide 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.840 receiver A. J. Brown. Who does he remind you of? 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.240 You know, I thought and thought about that because I 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.800 was searching the NFL, and you know, Calvin Johnson is 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.440 six five. I mean he was kind of he in 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:03.520 laa fitzgeral Well the first one that comes to mind 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.359 because of how thick and strong he is. I didn't 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.600 realize he was only sixty one. That really surprised me. 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:13.160 I thought he was at least sixty three. But he's 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.440 what two twenty two, twenty five. He's a powerful guy 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:18.320 and he could play running back. But I tell you, 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.520 I came up with a name, and it came from 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.119 that touchdown run that tied the game against the Baltimore 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:29.159 Ravens when he broke four tackles and drove that safety 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.879 into the end zone. He looked like Juwan Jennings the 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.840 Tennessee Vall. That's what Juwan did on a daily basis, 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.399 And I hope he'll do it for the forty nine 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.440 ers one day that he's on the practice squad now. 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:44.160 But he didn't have the speed that AJ has, but 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:49.080 that power, the lower body power. David, what's your theory 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.280 about why the Ryan Tannehill thing has worked so well 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.199 in Nashville after it did not work out for him 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.840 as well in Miami? You know, that is the question 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.719 of the day. I mean, he's a great quarterback. Who 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:06.639 knew He's so cool in the pocket, he reads the 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.760 defense is extraordinarily well. He's got a very good arm, 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.000 he's mobile. But you know, I gotta say, when you 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.000 got Derek Henry in the backfield, takes a little of 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.960