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Speaker 3: Welcome to and that's where you were in this podcastst

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Speaker 3: Guest Edition.

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Speaker 1: We have a very very very special guest today.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there are three pillars of Glee. There's

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Speaker 2: there's Adam Anders, Yes, who is the producer of every

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Speaker 2: They did everything the songs you heard, the songs you

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Speaker 2: without him, Glee wouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: Would not be Glee would not be.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we really don't have to say anything else.

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Speaker 1: This is a fantastic interview.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Adam Anders.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: Why does it feel so good to see your face?

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Speaker 1: It feels so familiar looking through you through like a glass.

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Speaker 2: Kids, I feel like you're going to start yelling at

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's good. How are you? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm older, same same, we are older.

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Speaker 4: I think when you do whatever, one hundred and twenty episodes,

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Speaker 4: It's a very small fraternity of people who know.

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Speaker 2: Before we get because Glee is there will be a

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Speaker 4: It's exciting. So Journey to Bethlehem November tenth, My life

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, congratulations on the film We wish. We can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he really does admiration. You know, you admire somebody,

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Speaker 3: What was the pilot like, like for you after you

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Speaker 4: we hit West Coast. I'm like, what is happening?

436
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

437
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 4: Stayed number one for like a week. So we knew, like, okay,

438
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 4: we just did something special and and I knew it.

439
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you just know when you're doing something,

440
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 4: this really works man. So that was special. And then

441
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 4: what happened was the music was so popular they it

442
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: was supposed to be two songs in ups, which I'm like, Okay,

443
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 4: I can handle that career in La and I'm working

444
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 4: with studio in La. Yeah, how wrong that?

445
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: Yes, your expectation was two songs an episode.

446
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can handle two songs.

447
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: I agreed two songs an episode, and we ended up

448
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: doing you guys know, like we did twelve sometimes, like

449
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 4: we did entire albums. We did the whole Rumors album.

450
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 4: We did a Madonna episode of thirteen songs we did.

451
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: There was no dialogue, just went from dance to dance

452
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: to dance to dance, like what is happening? And the

453
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: faster they needed scripts, the more songs they'd put in

454
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: because it would eat lush time. We were catching fire.

455
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 4: I had eight studios going, yeah, tie day and night,

456
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: and I even parent went back to Sweden, my production partner,

457
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: and so we would gain nine hours of daylight basically

458
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 4: with him being sweet. It was shift between. We had

459
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 4: a whole team there and then a whole team here,

460
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: and we could still barely keep up with how much

461
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: stuff we had to create and how many arrangements. And

462
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: it was literally twenty four to seven ten months every year.

463
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 4: I hardly slept. There were so many times where we

464
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 4: knew we were shooting the next day and go from

465
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: once to do the next come that studio and it's midnight,

466
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this isn't good. This sucks. And the

467
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: one thing I'll take pride in para and I never settled.

468
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: We did, you know, eight hundred and seventeen songs, not

469
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: all of which aired, but that's how many reproduced, and

470
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: we didn't settle on any of them. So if it

471
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 4: was midnight and I'm dead tired, it sucked. I'm like,

472
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sending this to Ryan again because I don't

473
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to get that email from them. I'm like,

474
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: I only send him stuff as good, like I'm not

475
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: sending him crap. So we'd erase it and start over.

476
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, oh God, there you go again

477
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: and Midnight. Yeah. It was crazy. It was fun to

478
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: the one good thing is the success of it. And

479
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: every week I would kind of I would try to

480
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: pick which songs we're going to do really really well

481
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: in the chart. I really got good at it, and

482
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 4: I started trusting my instincts because of Glee. You know

483
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 4: how many for seven straight years can kind of go

484
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 4: I think this is good and that's not and then

485
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 4: watch it come true. So by the end of the series,

486
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: I had so much confidence in my taste. Yeah, because

487
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: I've said this, I realized I have very average taste,

488
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 4: which means I my taste good. I like it, most

489
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 4: people will. Most people will, and that's what I found

490
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: out through Glee. So it was an amazing school.

491
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a valuable thing to learn.

492
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, just nobody has ever had that experience. Ticket and

493
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: you know, you're not hits every week, so that keeps you.

494
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Going sure.

495
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: Fire.

496
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, holy cow. By the time it ended, I was like,

497
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 4: please end.

498
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: What was the process like in terms of what was

499
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: happening so structurally, when you would find out you're getting

500
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: a song, what were the steps that would happen between

501
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: here and then Sweden. Basically like what was a to

502
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: B to see?

503
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: So we'd get a song. Sometimes we get a song,

504
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: sometimes have to figure out what song it was. You know,

505
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: Ryan in the beginning picked everything and then as it

506
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: got crazy, it would be like I needed an idea

507
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: for this.

508
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: Or so you guys would actually about the music.

509
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes the majority was was coming to us. I didn't

510
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 4: have time to look for songs. Frankly, so yeah bloom.

511
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 4: If you remember PJ, he would I think usually send

512
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: suggestions to Ryan. Ryan would pick from that and then

513
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: sometimes we didn't like the suggestions he was getting, he

514
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 4: would then reach out to me. So they just need

515
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 4: more ideas. Basically PJ was amazing. Yeah, but yeah, so

516
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 4: the process is, I you know, we'd try to get

517
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: as early as possible figure out what songs are in

518
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: an episode, but you know how slow scripts came out.

519
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, I mean the beginning we had more

520
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: time like that was a really special thing. We got

521
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: to spend more time with you in the studio. You

522
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: were getting to know our voices, We're getting to know

523
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: how you guys worked. It was a really we talked

524
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: about that all the time because that did not last

525
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: for forever.

526
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you never saw me again, and

527
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: I never came out exactly. Yeah, and Alex came in

528
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: and my brother took over recording you guys so that

529
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: I could arrange everything because I have time to do

530
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: both totally, and it was more important I got the

531
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 4: arrangements right, and I knew trusted him to record you

532
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: guys and get, you know, to match what we had arranged.

533
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'd get the songs, hopefully far enough in

534
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: advance before we'd be able to turnround. But I mean

535
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: there were times I got a song title the day

536
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: before we were shooting it. Oh my god, she was insane,

537
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 4: like how what like how are we doing this? But

538
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 4: most of the time I get the group of songs five, seven, ten, thirteen,

539
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: whatever it was, and we would then pair and I

540
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: would then sketch out what we're doing with the songs

541
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: with the vibe, is how we're going to approach it.

542
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: And then Sweden was the track creating machine and the

543
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: US was the vocal creating machine. So pair would then

544
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: get to work on the tracks. I'd get a rough

545
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: sketch of track, I'd start arranging a vocal and go

546
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 4: in with the background singers and do all that and

547
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: map out who's singing what, so you get those you know,

548
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: the guide vocals and the I had a stunt singer

549
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: for each one.

550
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Of you guys, and they sounded like us too.

551
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they really kind of learned our voices and

552
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: it made it easier for us to come in and

553
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: get it done faster too.

554
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: The idea was that I wanted Ryan to kind of

555
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: get that you have exactly what would sound like with

556
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: you guys.

557
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: It was brilliant because to go into a studio or

558
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: listen to a demo and have people singing like you

559
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: but also challenging you or doing the runs in a

560
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: way that you would sing them is a very strange

561
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: out of body experience. And you know, every couple of seasons,

562
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: like my demo singer would be different, and each one

563
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: made me a better singer. You made me a better singer.

564
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean before the show, Amber was never like a

565
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 2: huge belter like she always said, she was never like

566
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: a she's a soprano. She said, yeah, you like, we

567
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: watched her change before our eyes because you would push

568
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: her all us. It was really like fascinating, an incredible Yeah.

569
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: First session with Lea was crazy. Oh yeah that session, yeah, Ryan,

570
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: that was the only session Ryan came to for vocal session,

571
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: and uh, he didn't enjoy it.

572
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: I remember he came to was it like take a

573
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: Bow or something like he came during there was a

574
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: studio we worked in Burbank like once or something very

575
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: early it.

576
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: Was it was resonating in Burbank.

577
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and like he was there, but he didn't

578
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: stay the whole time.

579
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

580
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't his vie.

581
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't remember if it was. I think it

582
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: might have been take about Game. And it's a very

583
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: popkin R and B song and she'd never sung like

584
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: that ever. Like she's like she's a Broadway star and

585
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: you know we had I was pushing her to sing

586
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: like a pop diva, you know, and that was really difficult. Uh,

587
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: and uh she you know, you know her, she's feisty

588
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: and yeah, she's fiery and Ryan was like, I'm going

589
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: to leave, like okay. Really it was like you know,

590
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 4: it was. It's also it's a weird thing when you

591
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: have not used to being the studio. Everything sounds terrible

592
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: in the studio right when you're singing, so you can't

593
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: believe you're like, wow, I sound that bad. It's supposed

594
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be that exposed, so we can get

595
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: rid of all that bad stuff. Yeah, so then you

596
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: put together all the good stuff. It's like an edit,

597
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: you know. I mean to Ryan and like, this is like,

598
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: you know, the raw footage exactly. So I'm like, just

599
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: go home, relax. It's gonna be awesome. She's amazing, trust me.

600
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 4: And then he got the song the next day and

601
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: he's like, Okay, this is great. I always wait for

602
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: the editor.

603
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

604
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: It's a whole different dialogue. It's a different it's like

605
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: adjusting your expectations and like it's different between being a

606
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: creator of a show and directing someone to seeing being

607
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: a producer or vocal producer and talking to someone in

608
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: the booth. It is a very different experience in terms

609
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: of like I have full meltdowns and we'll.

610
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: Just always actually cracked. When you said that you won't

611
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: smelt it down. Yeah.

612
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: Well, I remember early on when you were all so

613
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: nice and so lovely're like, okay, let's just do that again.

614
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: I was like, here's the thing. You may need to

615
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: speak to everyone else like that, but I need you

616
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: to like yell at me and you're like, oh, say

617
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: no more. You're like, I'm like, I come from the

618
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: music world. Just brake me and it will motivate me.

619
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know is Unfortunately, I think that's stuck with

620
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: everyone after that because I'm known for you know what,

621
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: look at what I have in my studio. One of

622
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: the singers gave me this is me and look what

623
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: it says at the bottom.

624
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: What does it say? I can't It's crap moving on,

625
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: it's crap, it's crap on.

626
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: Like, I have never learned more about myself or at

627
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: a studio than from you know, working with your whole

628
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: you and your whole team, because it was. But also

629
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: talking about you're talking about getting Lee at to sing

630
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: pop music. We spent so much time in there, and

631
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: you would be like, because we all we both come

632
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: from pop music, R and B music and things, you're

633
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: like these Broadway people, I'm not sure.

634
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you'd be like, Okay, so do that,

635
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: do that? Just don't do it. Vibrodo vibrato that.

636
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: Sound, don't ever do that again. No, I think the

637
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: magic of Glee was I'm not a Broadway guy at all, Right,

638
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm Swedish. I'm like I was born with the Abba

639
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: playing in the room.

640
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: You know, like the cleanest, crispiest pop music known to man.

641
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: But make taking sometimes Broadway songs and making them sound

642
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: like pop rayo was the magic. It made it accessible

643
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: to everyone versus just Broadway people who sing. So that

644
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: was really the magic of them. Why it was so

645
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: I think wildly popular and musically was you would take

646
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: these great Broadway songs that are amazing songs, and then

647
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: we'd frame it in a way that, oh, even if

648
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: you don't like Broadway, you're like this. I think that

649
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: was the Brillianceicklee.

650
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

651
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

652
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: So there's obviously so much more to talk about, so

653
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: we're just gonna have to make this have to wait

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Speaker 2: till next week. Yeah, he's like, I love him. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I love spilling it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot, and there's a lot for him

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Speaker 3: John Packy, and he just wasn't on set all the time,

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Speaker 3: so we weren't around him all the time. So there's

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Speaker 3: just so much we didn't know and he doesn't know about.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Until today, I've learned so much so far, this in

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Speaker 2: real time.

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Speaker 4: With all of you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait for you guys to get the rest.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Okay, join us next week for part two of Adam Anders.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Adam for spending so much time with us.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you go see his movie Journey to Bethelhem

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Speaker 2: the musical epic.

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Speaker 1: Noss that it is, of course out in movie theaters.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, we'll see you.

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Speaker 4: That's what you really missed.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and

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Speaker 2: write us a review and leave us five stars. See

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Speaker 2: you next time