1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Good morning. Before we begin, I'd like to wish you 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: all a happy, healthy, and prosperous new year. Over the 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: past weeks, there's been much speculation over the futures of 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Pat Sherman and myself. Every day is a job interview 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: in this industry, and we accept that. So I understand 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: the question of why was Pat dismissed and I was not. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, there was substantive discussions between myself 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: and ownership regarding my job performance and vision moving forward 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: over the past two weeks. So John and Steve made 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: their decisions and here I stand, and before we go 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: any further, I just want to be clear, Pat Shermer's 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: as fine a man as I've ever worked with. There 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: are many reasons why the New York Football Giants are 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: in the current state, and I take my share of culpability. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: As John said yesterday, I have had mrs. However, given 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: where we started in December seventeen, we've made progress in 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: many areas on and off the field that we are 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: encouraged by and see as a sound foundation for the 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: team to come. And finally, one more point, before I 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: take questions, the person in this position must be willing 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: to make tough decisions, and I and I have certainly 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: showed the willingness to do so. However, be assured no 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: decision is made in a vacuum. We believe in collaboration 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: among ownership, coaching, and personnel, and with that I will 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: take questions. So, Dave, what what is the state of 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: the franchise? Is it about now? Is it about the future? 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Is it about patience? Is it about urgency? Where do 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: we look? Where do we look? All right? We feel 29 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: like we've addressed. When I came here, I had too 30 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: major goals, all right. Number one was to find the quarterback, 31 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: and I really believe we've done that. Daniel had a 32 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: terrific year, came on, did some great things, and we 33 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: had to see great things for him in the future. 34 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: All Right. The second thing, reason, the second accomplishment I 35 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: had as my goal was to set this found this 36 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: excuse me, set the team up for sustaining success. So 37 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: over time since I got here, we have re generated, 38 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: We have rebooted, so to speak, and done a lot 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: of things behind the scenes that needed to be done. 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: John alluded to them yesterday. Um, we've completely redone our 41 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: scouting situation. How we look at college personnel, how we 42 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: look at pro personnel we have. We're in the process 43 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: of We've hired four computer of folks uh software, and 44 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: we are completely redoing our back end of our college 45 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: in pro scouting systems. As Joann alluded to yesterday, We've 46 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: hired a full time clinician. We're doing a lot of 47 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: things behind the scenes. And because you know, in terms 48 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: of being forward thinking, Bruce, you know, it was, we've 49 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: also have been the last two years ramping up the 50 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: analytic and technology piece. So it's, you know, that's where 51 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: we're going. And I know that sometimes it's it's difficult, 52 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, the instant gratification piece, but that's where we're going. 53 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: And and I really feel good. I feel good about, 54 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, the direction we're headed. I know previously you 55 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: spoken to a team employee about the Williams trade. Can 56 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: you just talk about the thought process of trading tops 57 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: vand pick and multiple other draft picks to bring Williams 58 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: in when he was going to be a free agent 59 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: at the end of it, Okay, we you know, basically 60 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: it was a you know, it was a three and 61 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: a five. Okay, if we signed him, it moves up 62 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: to a four. All right. The thought process was, I 63 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: really believe that as as much as the style of 64 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: play evolves, there are basic truths. You have to run 65 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: the ball, you have to stop the run, you have 66 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: to rush the passer. If you if you're seriously deficient 67 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: in any one of those three areas, it makes it tough. 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough sledding. By bringing in Leonard, we 69 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, we looked at it. You know, we obviously 70 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: evaluated the film. By bringing him in, we felt he 71 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: could be a disruptive force inside. And he has been. 72 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: He has been well you know that's that's hypothetical, that's 73 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, I really do. But you know, 74 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the the at the end of the day, we felt 75 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: good about him. He did what we wanted him to do, 76 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: excuse me, and and he wants to be here, so, uh, 77 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: what's that because now we know now we know what 78 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: we have and we're willing to do that. You wouldn't 79 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: draft picks in order to get that information. We exactly 80 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: we felt we needed him, Okay, I mean you know 81 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: again it's we felt good about it, and we feel uh, 82 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: and he proven he's he's disruptive in there. He improved 83 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: our past our rushing defense with him in there, and 84 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: he was he buzzes around the quarterback. We just get 85 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: to get him to finish now. But the bottom line 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: is we felt it was worth the deal. The juice 87 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: was worth the squeeze. You have said a few times 88 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: when you've talked to us about how you believe in Eli. 89 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: Manning was not a mirage. You said he had several 90 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: years left. He thought now looking back, was it wise 91 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: to devote twenty three million in cap space player who 92 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: was giving such a short lease that he only played 93 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: two games? So and then he was a backup any 94 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: mentor but a lot of money to a guy who 95 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: was going Were you blindsided that it was only gonna 96 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: be two games? And if so, would you have done 97 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: that different? Here's what I would say, Paul Okay, we 98 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: really believed in Daniel. We didn't know he'd come that fast. 99 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: You know again, you're talking about the kid that played 100 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: a duke Okay in the A C. C. And like 101 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: I said, we had taken him at six. We didn't blink, 102 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: all right. We just didn't realize he'd come that fast. 103 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, it was time. 104 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: It was time. You know, uh, Eli was great with him. 105 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: He was you know, who who better to learn from 106 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: and who better to have his back? He lies a 107 00:06:54,880 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: pros pro and a big piece of being the being 108 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the head coach, being the quarterback, the general manager of 109 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants is speaking with you folks 110 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: and getting the message to our fans. That's a big 111 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: piece of it. And that's another reason Daniel. You know, 112 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: who better for Daniel to learn from than Eli Manning. 113 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: So so to answer your question, you know we're fine 114 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: with it over the Delts trade. And if not, why not? Well, 115 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, really and truly, Steve, you know, we're not 116 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna know about that trade for two years, you know, 117 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: two rookies and and and again Jabrils only in his 118 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: third year, so we're really not going to be able 119 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: to evaluate that trade in two years. You come back 120 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: in two years and hopefully I'm standing there we can 121 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: have that conversation. Being honest, I mean, it's it's it's 122 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: it's it's really you gotta wait. You know, people immediately 123 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: want to you know, Roman glad Roman Forum thumbs up, 124 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: thumbs down. Okay, right now, I'm we're excited about dex 125 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: to Lawrence and O'Shane and Jibril. We're gonna find out 126 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: day got on Leonard Williams for a moment. Are you 127 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: willing to give him the significant, big contract that he varied. 128 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't discuss money. I don't discuss the knock tract. 129 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't discuss negotiations, insurance that he won't assess the market, 130 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: because he was in my office yesterday and told me 131 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: he wants to be here A lot of leverage by 132 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: trading him and saying that you know, I don't know. 133 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I feel like you have to sign them because otherwise 134 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: you get those two picks for just the information that 135 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: you then can't use. Say it against you, and I'm 136 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: sorry you feel like you have to sign him now, 137 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: because let's say he he tested the market and he 138 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: tried to sign him and he signed elsewhere. Then you 139 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: traded two picks for the information you wanted to use 140 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: it and you still weren't able to use it. And 141 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: if we and if we whole, dot Water will get 142 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: a third round cump. Yes, I understand that you know 143 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: changes had to be made. I understand changes had to 144 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: be made when you first came in here, but they 145 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: were made at a rapid pace. Looking back, you think 146 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: that maybe you know, the process was a little too 147 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: quickly because it upset whatever continuity that you may be 148 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: wanted to keep in the locker room and upset the chemistry. No, 149 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: I don't feel that way at all, Patty. I. We 150 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: had a culture issue that was well documented and changes 151 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: had to be made. You you had you had an 152 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: operation that had one that had one winning season since 153 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, and that you know the definition 154 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: of insanity. So um No, to answer your question is 155 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: how you can justify a recommitmentation? Sorry, how do you 156 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: rationalize the recommitment to analytics when the night after you 157 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: drafted Sa Kwon barkway you mark? Is what I would 158 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: say to you about that and that and that's really 159 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I did that kidding around you. You turn 160 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: around and you learn very quickly. I learned there's no 161 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: throwaway lines here. You know, you guys will take anything 162 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: and and you know do that and I understand that, 163 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: I truly do. But here's what I would say to 164 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: you about that, Okay, in terms of the analytics and 165 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: devaluing the running back and this and that Sa Kwan 166 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: special and I and that's what I should have said, 167 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: say Kwan special, He's an outlier, so you know it's 168 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: it's not you know, we are we are committed to 169 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: being forward thinking. We're committed to being the best in 170 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: every area, and we have made a we are making 171 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: a determined effort to move that way, and we have 172 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: we have you know, we're in the process of that process. Odell. 173 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: We asked you why you didn't call the forty niners, 174 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: and you said, whoever picks up the phone to make 175 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the phone call gives up the leverage. Floody Nighters. Cool. 176 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: I was in I talked to the foty Nighters, right, 177 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. Around for a 178 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: better offer than that was, you said you don't pick 179 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: up whoever picks up the phone to make the caller speaking, 180 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: But you picked up In your in house interview, you 181 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: said you picked up the phone to call the Jets 182 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: for Leonard Williams. You initiated the conversation, Yes, because I 183 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: had heard, because I heard Romas, I'd heard MS that 184 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: he was that he was available. So I called ask 185 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm reading you know. I called Joe. I say hey, Joe, 186 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm reading all over the place he's available, so I called. 187 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: So my question was gonna be, did you feel like 188 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: you lost leverage by doing that? I felt we got 189 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: fair trade value. It's not about when when you're in 190 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the trade business, moving up, moving down, whatever, it's it's 191 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: you want to get to a win win, Ryan, you 192 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: know it's it's you know it. People aren't gonna let you. 193 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Most people are savvy enough where they're they're you know, 194 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be fair body line to have 195 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: a bottom line question. Just sorry, just this is really 196 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: a big picture question. Yesterday, John Marra said he expects results, 197 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: more results, better results in he thinks the team should 198 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: be better, will be better. How close is this team 199 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: right now to being a playoff contender? In your mind? 200 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: You know it's it all depends upon how quickly the 201 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: puppies come along. We got a lot of young kids. 202 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: We lead the league and snaps by rookies. It's it's 203 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: a big part of it is how quickly they come. 204 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: When you look at the coaching process now and moving 205 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: on to hiring a coach, obviously you're looking at college 206 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: and pro guys or what have you. What are some 207 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: of the benefits of a college coach, and because they 208 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: tend to handle both duties being a GM technically and 209 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: also a coach. How is that dynamic when you're into 210 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: you guys are coming from the collegiate level. Well, one 211 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: of the things that that I that I find interesting 212 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: is we are getting younger and younger players in the league. 213 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: These kids were drafting a one years old, they've been 214 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: they've been in college for three years. Heck, in Caroline, 215 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: I drafted two kids that were twenty years old. The 216 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: Edmund's kid that Buffalo drafted was nineteen. You know, it's 217 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: you're drafting a younger kids. So the the to to 218 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: take a college coach now, you know, he I think 219 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: he'd had that advantage of, you know, having been connected 220 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: to these college kids for so long, understanding the culture 221 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: and what they're at, what they're about, and where they're at. 222 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: You know. So I appreciate that as far as him 223 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: being the GM because obviously he's got his recruiting war 224 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: room and he's the one doing that. You know, it's 225 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: a collaborative process. Everything is a collaborative process. This is 226 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: a this is a monster up here. Anybody who's doing 227 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: it on their own, it's it's difficult, and you know, 228 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: I would say to anybody, any college coach that we 229 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: can talk to, that I'm here to help him. One 230 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: of the things that that I'll that I'll that I'll 231 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: tell you is, you know, we're all supports staff, We 232 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: really truly. Ah. There's been some speculation that there may 233 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: be some coaching candidates who might not want to work 234 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: with you and your situation, not knowing whether you have 235 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: ownership support for multiple years. Is that something you've heard? 236 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: It all give any concerns that there may be candidates 237 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: will say no, you know, I don't understand the notion 238 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: that I'm tough to work with. UM. I think it'd 239 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: be from people who don't know me. UM. Obviously, as 240 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: we move forward in the coaching search, it's the dating game, 241 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: and they'll they'll be that opportunity for them to look 242 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: me in the eye and say, hey, Dave, what up? 243 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: So you know it's it's Uh, I don't understand that. 244 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't know where it's coming from. 245 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I would say this. I went to Carolina, Ron was there, UM. 246 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I didn't fire anybody there. And three years later we 247 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: were in Pello at Palo Alto and Santa Clara at 248 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because they don't believe. Well, that's part 249 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: of the conversation. That's part of the conversation, John, you know, 250 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: it's just part of the conversation. We'll see are David. 251 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: In April, um in an interview with Steve Polity, he 252 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: asked if there was a culture problem, and you said 253 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: not anymore with a smile. According to what Polity wrote, 254 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: you now have a season where you have four wins, 255 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: more than half of your losses are by two scores 256 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: at least, and you did have some locker room issues 257 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: this season, but it's clear you think the culture is 258 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: somehow better. Why. Well, I think that, you know, one 259 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: of the part of the problem, Kim is you know, 260 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: when you lose year after year after year, it's it's 261 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: you've got to get that winning feeling back. Okay, In 262 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: terms of culture problems downstairs, this year, uh, I know this. 263 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: I saw a team that came out, practiced hot every 264 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: day and played and played hot on Sundays. So I'm 265 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: not sure where that comes from. Um, the first time 266 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: it's ever been mentioned to meet Kim, and and you know, 267 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm through that locker room all the time. You know, 268 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: on a on a daily basis issue in the locker 269 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: room this year and with some other players, Well what yours? 270 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: What your neurius said? He said, you know, he came 271 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: out and he said what he said? You know, it's 272 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: it's he's you know, he's it. He was at So 273 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: feel like, do you feel like you've been put on notice? 274 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: A little bit from John Marry yesterday he said you 275 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: need a better better batting average and free agents and 276 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: all that. Do you actually put on notice this year? 277 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Going into absolutely, I'm sorry, Well, you know we're we're 278 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: we're all unnotice. We truly are. From a first year 279 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: GM to a thirty absolutely, absolutely absolutely I feel that 280 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: pressure every day, whether or in my first year or fifty. 281 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: You have a lot of money in calf Right, you 282 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: planned on being very aggressive. Well, first of all, whatever 283 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: amount of money we end up having, you've got to 284 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: take twenty million and put it to the side and 285 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: put it in the past book savings account, because you 286 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: want to be in a position in season two to 287 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: do extensions. If an attractive player is there, you want 288 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: to have the cap space to make a decision. And 289 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: instead of saying, well we can't afford this guy, we 290 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: can't afford that guy, So you take twenty million aside. 291 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: You build the team through the draft. Free agency is 292 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: the is really to a certain degree, and I've said 293 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: it before, free agency is to set yourself up so 294 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: that in the draft. Excuse we address issues with free agency, 295 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: so you can set yourself up in the draft. So 296 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: you take the best player available. Let me let me 297 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: go here with Pat the other bad one you said, 298 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams improved your run game. The Eagles controlled the 299 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: ball on the ground both times you played them. Here 300 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty nine yards, four touchdowns with a 301 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: guy named Boston Scott running back. So I'm curious why 302 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: you think you improved the run game too. Why don't 303 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: you talk and take a kind of pill accountability Moore? 304 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: It seems like Pat Shermer was out in the front 305 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of taking all the bullets and then of course 306 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: gets fired and not And third, why should players free 307 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: agents trust you when you say you didn't sign a 308 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: guy to trade him and then you trade him. Why 309 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: should people trust what you said? Well, the first question 310 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: is one of the questions you hit me with. Three. Pat, 311 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: you got your money's worth, all right, So what's the 312 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: no problem kid. The bottom line is Pat Okay with 313 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: the what why should people trust me? Why shouldn't they? 314 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: All right, we signed, we made the deal with Odellt's 315 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: beginning of the year. At the beginning of the year, 316 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: I told him come in, we'll get it done, and 317 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: we did. A's as simple as that. Then from that 318 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: point on, you make decisions. What was the next question, Oh, 319 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: the run defense, it takes more than one guy. That's 320 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: my response to that. You've got you've got a number 321 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: of people playing defense. It takes the football is the 322 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: ultimate team game. You can't pin an offense is an offenses. 323 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: Offenses performance, our defensive performance on one player. Okay, what 324 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: was the third question? Uh, why don't you talk publicly 325 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: more and take accountability when things are going wrong? Well, 326 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: here's what I would say to you, Pat Okay, And 327 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: we looked at it all right, and we probably need 328 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: to address it and it may change next year. But 329 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: there are very few gms to talk in season most gms, 330 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: and I did this in Carolina, I did not talk 331 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: once the season starts. To me, it's about the players 332 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: and coaches, it really is. And even in the Super 333 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: Bowl season, I was behind the scenes. The only time 334 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: I talked in the Super Bowl season once the season 335 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: started was the first a second week of the playoffs, 336 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: when Ron was getting inundated by requests. So I just 337 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, I stepped in for twenty minutes one day 338 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: before practice. But that's it, I really and truly believe. 339 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: And if you go around the league and I you know, 340 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: I was feeling guilty about it. You know, I felt 341 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: guilty that Pat was up there taking the bullets. So 342 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I turned around and had Pat handling. You know, go 343 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: around the league and see what people are doing. And 344 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: most GMS, the IF the IF the GM talked in 345 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: season this year, it was because of a big deal. 346 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: That was it? What's that Leonard? Right? Wow? So we 347 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: didn't talk with that time. So the last earlier, I know, 348 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: he talked about are you worried about certain things turning 349 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: off coaching candidates? And you mentioned you need difficult to 350 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: work with. I think more of what he was getting 351 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: out was you've been put on notice. You're clearly on 352 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: the hot seat during there's uncertainty that this coach may 353 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: not be working for the GM hires. Does that concern 354 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: you in terms of potentially turning off prominent head coaching Canadida. 355 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: I think that I think that the power of this franchise, 356 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: this is an iconic franchise. The power of this franchise 357 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: will and and the stability of this ownership will day 358 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: the fears of any coach that goes thinks about that. 359 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: You said earlier, obviously talking about the letter deal though 360 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: you felt as though the draft assets that you were 361 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: giving up we're worth the player coming year. And then 362 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: in the later questions you talked about how to build 363 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: the team and the team needs to be built through 364 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: the draft. So how do you explain the contradiction from 365 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: your view? Yeah, I don't think it's just me. I 366 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: mean that you're contradicting the idea of giving away assets 367 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: versus protecting assets so you can build the team away. 368 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: You say you need to be built years old. He's young, 369 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: he's he's about to enter his prime. And I I 370 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: felt that what he gave us, with the potential he 371 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: gives us, was worth those two assets. What do you 372 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: say to the Giants fan who sees nine wins the 373 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: last two seasons, four this season and you generally kind 374 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: of telling us today, everything's okay. I I'm telling you 375 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: everything's okay? Is that what you're getting? That the vibe 376 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: you're getting, it's getting better him and this is frustrating 377 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: for all of us. I'm not I'm not happy about this. 378 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Ownership is not happy. We're all frustrated, all right, But 379 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately it takes time. Pat obviously, I don't know if 380 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: you've had a chance to think about this, But for 381 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: you personally, you mentioned some of the changes that you've 382 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: made behind the scenes, But for you personally, how do 383 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: you anticipate you're going to do things and be different 384 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and better? Because I'm sure you want to be better 385 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: moving forward, So what kind of changes and how do 386 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: you anticipate you're gonna be better next year? As me personally, well, 387 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: you know it's I know this may sound crazy, but 388 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: I I met recently with a big analytics guy. Um, 389 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna learn from my mistakes. I 390 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: never stop asking myself the question, what could we have 391 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: done differently? What could we have done better? That question 392 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: never stops getting asked. I always ask that question. We evaluate, 393 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: we reevaluate, we go backwards and forwards over it. And 394 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: that's what I've got to do. I've got to talk 395 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: to other gms and inside and outside the industry and 396 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: continue to grow. Yesterday, sorry if I called for you 397 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: first press conference. One of the your big teams was 398 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: hog Molly's the Offensive life. The top priority wasn't good 399 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: the first year was guess at some moments this year, 400 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: where do you stand in that rebuilding? What pieces you have? 401 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: How much more work? Well, you know, it's that part 402 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: of it's been frustrating. You know. Jodge Young May Rest 403 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: of Peace used to call that the dance of the 404 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: elephants and those five whoops. Those five guys have to 405 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: work together and it's it's it's as a unit, and 406 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: if they don't, it looks it's messy. All right. We 407 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: we feel like unfortunately Peo got hurt again he towards Achilles, 408 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: as you guys know, so now he's not gonna be 409 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: ready until camp probably most likely. But you know, we 410 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: feel like we've got some good pieces there and they've 411 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: just got to continue to work together and improve. Yeah, 412 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: we're always going to look to add always, I'm not 413 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, we're not afraid to draft over anybody. So 414 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: we'll we'll continue to work that. Ralph, you can turn 415 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: things around pretty quickly. But in the last three years, 416 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: the record says what the record says, So why will 417 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: this year be different in your mind in terms of readings. Well, 418 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: I just told you, Bruce, these young kids are getting better. 419 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: They truly Well that's what this next obviously, you know 420 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: this next roster building season is about. It really is. 421 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: It really isn't And I would I would say this 422 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: to you when you talk about teams that get turned around, 423 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: quickly take a look at what they started with first. Okay, 424 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: just take a look, Paul. You just spection before that 425 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: you felt guilty watching Pat go up there every day. Okay, Um, 426 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: well you could have, like you said, when you felt 427 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: guilty about that, and then you said we should have 428 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: a study to see what the other gms do. Why 429 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: we looked at But why did that matter to you? 430 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: Because because gut tells me he's I'm feeling guilty. I 431 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: talked about it with Pat and we decided to stay 432 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: the course. Yesterday's job in the biggest media market in 433 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: the country. You realize that coming in that there were 434 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: probably certain obligations. Are you concerned at all that your 435 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: lack of availability to the media at large over five 436 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: months projected a vibe of weakness to the fan base, 437 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: and if not, why not. Yeah, I'm I'm concerned about 438 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: that very much, you know, Ian, And that's why we're 439 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: going to address it. One thing that John mentioned yesterday 440 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: was that he would be willing to listen to a 441 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: coach coach Kennedy if he could be convinced that that 442 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: coach would say, I want more personnel, say than a 443 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: head coach typically has here, that he'd be open to that. 444 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Number One, whatever is 445 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: in the best interests of the New York Football Giants, 446 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: I will do whatever is in the best interests of 447 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: the club. Number Two, what I would say is there 448 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: were no major decisions made without everybody's interest, without everybody's opinion. Okay, 449 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: I am. You know for some reason there is a um. 450 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: We we're collaborative here, we are collaborative. Coach, do you 451 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: need this, this team, this franchise need at this point 452 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: we need we need a head coach with that can 453 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: bring together a staff that's enthusiastic. We need a head 454 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: coach with leadership. We need a head coach with a 455 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: great you know within with intelligence and we know one 456 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: that can connect with these players and that's what we need. 457 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: Understand why a lot of paying customers are skeptical that 458 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: you can get this job done? Do I understand why? 459 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: Sure day with Daniel that you sound very optimistic about data. 460 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: There obviously where a lot of reasons to be optimistic, 461 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: but the turnovers obviously bubbles eleven I think twelves. Why 462 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: do you think that's corrective? Well, you know it's legit. 463 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: What you're saying is legit. Obviously in later games he 464 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: did a better job. He had that he had a 465 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: bad run, and in later games, as you watch the 466 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: pressure around him and whatever, you'd see him feel it 467 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: better and have two hands on the ball, and he 468 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: cut them down less handful of games. He knows it. 469 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna work on it. He's he's that kind of 470 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: a kid. Last personnel. If the personel decisions are collaborative, 471 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: how come you get credit for drafting Daniel and for 472 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: what he looks like? But Pat is not. I have 473 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: no idea what you're talking about, Pat, very frankly no idea. 474 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: Just a couple of house keeping questions. You talked to 475 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: the previous staff, did you ask anybody to come back? 476 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Or here's what we did, Tom Okay. When I talked 477 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: spoke to the staff yesterday, there's a number of housekeeping things. 478 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: Number One, we told them they're under contract and they 479 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: are welcome to use the facilities. Number Two, we will 480 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: certainly recommend and suggest that the new head coach speak 481 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: with them. Number Three, we will send them all of 482 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl because that is the job fair for 483 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: lack of a better term. In the NFL, we have 484 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: a couple of our young coaches that are probably gonna 485 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: coach in the East West game that we're gonna send 486 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: And yes, um, they had trying to think of I 487 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: think that's it. So that's who we told him there 488 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, that's right. The other thing, they're free 489 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: to pursue other opportunities. They're under contract, obviously, tom So 490 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: if if if it's an offensive line coach and he's 491 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: going for an offensive line job, theoretically we can block it. 492 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: We will not do that. Done with the Giants. I 493 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: haven't spoken to him yet. He took some he took 494 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: some time, and he's gonna I'm assuming he's gonna get 495 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: back to me over the last one. Thank you? How 496 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: would thanks, Pat? How would you grade yourself over the 497 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: last two years. Over the last two years, not good enough. Really, 498 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: it's not hasn't been good enough. It'll get better.