WEBVTT - Ep. 218: The World's Best Small Game Hunter Conquers Mongolia 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is Me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.319 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.600 can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.160 the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.440 Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store. Nor 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:36.040 where you stand with on X. All right, ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.720 Kevin Murphy my favorite guy in the world, one of them. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:45.559 Definitely better than Janni because, uh two reasons. I just 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.199 genuinely like him, and too, he makes my job easy. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.199 I don't need to drag out, I don't need to 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:56.800 like wrestle out thoughts out of him. He just got thoughts. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.240 So here he is, Kevin Murphy. I'm so glad to 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.760 see you, like kind of because we got I got. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.640 I gotta look at you through a computer, man, which 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.399 is not my preferred way of doing this. You know, 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.760 I'm the same way, And uh, good seeing you guys, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.200 And uh, you know it's kind of strange. Just like 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.440 a week before you called me up and said, hey, 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.640 you want to do a remote podcast, I had told 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.399 myself I had had some bad experiences over the telephone 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.400 interviews and doing some things that I would never do. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.759 I remote podcast over the telephone, I had told myself, 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.560 But I am eating the words now because you guys 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.800 are just like family with me, So I have no problem, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.760 no problem at I all set here and talking to 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.240 you guys. It's just like you were in the room 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.440 with me. So yeah, I agree. Generally I would stick 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.120 with your I would stick with that. But everything's you know, 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.160 a lot of exceptions going on right now, and I 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.400 don't one to ten Kevin, how how bummed out are 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.680 you about how we weren't able to pull off our 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.080 squirrel and rabbit trip in March. Oh, I was bummed out, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.720 but you know, and he said, hey, we're gonna Yeah, 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:05.080 it's ten because I was up there pre tuning and 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.120 ready to go, and I bought my day of a 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.040 yearly licensed day, so you for that. Yeah, So I 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.760 was I didn't do the regular five day or seven 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.160 day whatever. So I went ahead and I was gonna 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.080 go back up there, but I decided not too. But 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.080 we had a really good time. My seventh trip to 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.840 Bearing Springs over the last eight years. Shot a little footage. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.560 I saw all my amigoes up there doing I hate 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.320 you to all the people around bearing springs and enjoy 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.760 you very much and look forward to coming back next year. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.720 So I love going to southern Michigan. I really do 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.560 very nice people up there, just like home folk, uh, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.320 dog lovers, good stout rabbit population and have a good 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.080 time every year. And you can't hunting in Kentucky and 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.640 Barts So it's uh kind of the tip of the 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.920 spirit as far as the end of the hunting season 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.520 and then you get to start all over again. Good 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.000 have you ever seen it? I gotta I gotta rather 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.320 because we're right now out. We were gonna before we 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.640 plan that trip, we were gonna have Kevin come out 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.919 to Montana and hunt some small game. But the rabbit 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.799 numbers have been so low and this is going this 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:14.160 is going on probably three or four years. No, I 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.880 don't think they have been really good, like really really 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:23.400 good since two thousand eight, really good for twelve years 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.919 since they've been like where you feel like something bad 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.880 is gonna happen. There's so many rabbits. Yeah, Now, Kevin, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.760 have you ever seen like just numbers really low where 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:38.200 you've hunted your days? You know? Um, I've only been 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.720 a rabbit for a real uh, uh, top notch rabbit 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.400 hunter in the last uh since about twenty eleven when 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.320 I retired, and I see those cycles. You know, there's 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.800 a lot of things that can't happen. You can have 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.480 a wet summertime, wet spring, and then a lot of 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.600 the offspring dial off. Sometimes some parasites and disease come 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.640 through me and wipe them out. Now with the squirrel 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.680 population crop, it's a food food driving thing there. We 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.080 had some late frost here the last couple of weeks. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:07.600 I am a little bit concerned about some of our 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.760 acron trees that kills the caspians on those on the 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.600 tree limbs, so it could cut our food back. But rabbits, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.159 like I said, usually moisture, I think is more of 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.479 a thing that drives those guys up and low. That 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.080 affects them, you know when they're in the nest, dreadled 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:29.040 baby rabbits out Um they are what do you'll have 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.960 cotton tails up there? So they're born western Yeah, they're 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.200 born naked with their eyes closed, so you know, they 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:40.680 don't have much to protect them, uh from other nature 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.640 the elements. So I'd say that's one thing. But habitat 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.359 is the big issue around here, and we had a 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.680 wet spring in a wet summer last year, so it 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.640 knocked our population now quite a bit. I talked to 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.640 quite a few rabbit hunters and they said they were 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.839 having difficulty finding rabbits, and we've killed some really small 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.720 rabbits towards the end of February or our season goes 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.560 out the tents. So the last week we killed some 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.560 rabbits that were really small and they'll cycle all year long, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.560 you know, try to raise offspring if the winner is 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.320 not too too bad. Hey, Yeahny, what year was that 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.640 that we were down to Wyoming hunting antelope. That was 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.600 ridiculous months of rabbits. Yeah, I was just trying to 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.160 remember what what year that was, um, because that was 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.800 like as good as it gets. Yeah, that was probably 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:28.800 like twenty ish. We we put in some miles hunting turkeys. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:35.920 This weekend saw one cotton tail. Normally in that neck 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:40.520 of the woods there'll be a lot of them, but yeah, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.720 it's been dismal. So then we we were gonna hut 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.840 here with We're gonna hut Montana with Kevin. Then we're 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.640 gonna hunt Michigan and we got we got derailed by 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.440 the pandemic and Kevin Joannie was saying, you had some 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.919 what's your take on this whole pandemic situation? Man? You 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.520 know this is gonna be my thirty six year of 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:05.119 Germans were fair And UH explain that I'm a water 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:11.599 wastewater guy. Uh degree environmental geology background work started out 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:16.000 working the health department, nine five of being environmentalists, going 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.280 around doing different lots of different things, testing water, making 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:24.320 rat poison a couple of tons one day. Uh tell 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.040 me real quick, real quick. Uh give me the basic 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.440 recipiant making a ton of rat poison. You know, I 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.440 was just throwing whatever they told me to do because 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.520 I was brand new. I didn't know what I was 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.880 handling whatever. But we had a little concrete mixer showing 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.600 throwing stuff in there and bagging it up and stapling, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.560 giving away for free, no no graby clinic clinics. And 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.159 then uh, I worked at a power plant for a 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.000 while and they put me over the water department and 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.080 uh make sure that we were sucking out river water. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.720 Make sure that was the chlorine was a residential high 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.640 enough to kill back all the pathogens in it. And 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.719 then I transferred over to the wastewater plant in nineteen 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.400 eighty nine, and I spent from eighty nine to two 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:11.840 thousand and three are now until eleven. Uh, working my 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.960 way up to the top of the Totem pole on 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.080 the wastewater system and being environmental, let's see, and making 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.600 clean water every day. So back in there. So you're 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.920 your credential to your credential to at least have an opinion. Yeah, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.040 I think so. I mean, you know, I was permitted 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.480 place for operator. I can operate any plant in the 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.240 United States. I'm qualified to do that. I do yearly 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.920 see us and I've I've passed the exams to do that. UM. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.480 People can work under me. UM. I knew early only 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.120 in my career as I worked my way up with 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.560 Nashville is only two hours away. Within two hours, anything 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.560 in the world could be I could be face to 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.120 face beating up person, or it could be in the 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.560 sewer system. And the sewer system is very hostile to 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.840 some pathogens and it's very inviting for others. So I 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.880 grew up in the heyday of hepatitis c AIDS not 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.840 knowing a whole lot about it. A BOWLAE outbreaks and 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:14.360 I started reading books in journals and trying to protect myself. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.240 I would go and have to pull samples at this 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.920 at the local hospitals to make sure that they weren't 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.040 dropping anything into the sewer system that they weren't supposed 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.720 to be, like, you know, broken mercury thermometers or blood 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.840 pressure machines or acid tones from the lab all at debris. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.800 So I'd have to go out there, open up a manhole, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.360 and you know, I'm right there in the front line 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.440 of everybody in the whole area six So I knew 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:44.240 that I could personally be uh engaged in it. Uh 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.000 my guys could be uh face to face with it, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:48.960 or I could bring it home to my family. So 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.559 I started reading some some different books about pathogens of 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:58.160 bowl ee uh mad cow disease. I just sounded intriguing. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.360 It was kind of a way to let my mind 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.000 drift away from a work, but at the same time 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.640 learn something about work. And I read a book and 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.000 I got out the other day looking at it. It 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:14.160 was on the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen, uh called 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:18.719 the Great Influenza, and um by coincidence, I came by 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:23.040 Fort Riley, Texas or Kansas back in uh December I 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.360 was with Zack from c Z and his wife, she's 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.400 an environmental engineer for Kansas Light Empire. And as we 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.000 drove by the military basis, says, I am pretty sure 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.320 that is where the Spanish flu started the epidemic, and 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.240 that's where it was first recognizing that it swept the world, 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:42.200 just killing millions upon millions of people. And um, I said, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.160 it was, you know, very intriguing. I grew up in 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.200 a small community. When I was a kid, there was 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.679 three sets of orphans, all about the same age forty two. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.040 There was probably fifty years old somewhere in that time 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.679 from I don't know a single orphan from then or 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.679 from now. But after I read that book in two 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.160 th us and in five I did a timeline and 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:07.040 their parents evidently died from the Spanish flu. And that's 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:11.280 what that's what the Spanish flu it uh. It concentrated 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.640 on people of childbearing ages. And you know, probably the 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.560 book said like fifty million people you know, died worldwide, 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.240 but so many people died in India. They don't have 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.760 any any idea what happened. They tried to con That's 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.600 amazing because this is the this is the thing that 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:30.600 people draw. You know, this current situation is when people 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.120 are looking for a parallel that they reach for that, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.040 yes they do, and I don't see it based on 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.080 my experience in reading the books. And they want to 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:46.800 compare St. Louis to Philadelphia, and and I went back 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.840 and read some of the book. You know St. Louis 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.679 has right above the river system from us combined sewer system, 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.280 waste goes out to the river the dispose of uh. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.000 They had some really sharp dudes in uh. St. Louis 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.720 US and then Philadelphia wartime city people jammed together households 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.440 of maybe you know, fifteen to twenty years and an 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.800 outdoor privy. So they were constantly in contact with each other. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.840 Uh So I asked some of the engineers that works, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.720 and I want to see somebody do a comparison between 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.479 Philadelphia sewer system and the St. Louis and the population 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.120 and all that to see how it compares. But you 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.559 know from what I read in the book, and the 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.960 guy's name was Barry. He wrote that book and he 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.960 wrote another one on Rising Tides about the great floods 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.000 along the Mississippi River. So he's a very good historic 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.400 author that that takes his research very seriously. So um, 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.640 I don't see it from from what I see from 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.880 the numbers that I drank out, it is a flu. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.400 My mom is eighty years old. She needs to be 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.560 careful what she does. I have a friend that had 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.720 a liver transplant. He's fifty seven. He needs to watch 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.600 what what he does. But you know, we're all one 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.920 microby way of being reckon our system. My former boss, 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.319 Don hays Uh, he came down with West Nyle virus 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.320 and it wrecked his system. And I talked to the 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.600 doctor at Vanderbilt University and he says, hey, Kevin says, 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.720 everybody in this mosquito pit, it's West Nile virus. You 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.280 may feel bad for an hour or two or two 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.600 or three days. And he said, on some rare occasions, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.480 I see it wrecked somebody's system, like your boss, and 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.080 it just totally you know, Anni lees and paralyzed him 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.000 from the waist down and he had to have a 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.800 track and he fought through it for for five or 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.160 six years and then finally passed away. In a very 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.640 good person, a very good person to community, but very 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.840 health vibrant, you know, for an older guy wrote his 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.240 bicycle helped everybody out in the town. But like I said, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.880 you know, if I was a germophobe or whatever, I 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.920 wouldn't be able to do the travels that I do 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.000 and go out and do the things, or be even 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.479 a hunter, you know, knowing that there's viruses out there. Raybies, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.240 you had trickin noses. I think you know, you just 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.120 take that. As a human being, we're very resilient on 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.840 what we can do. We build up an immunity pretty quick. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.240 And I'm a firm believer, you know in that. Uh. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.520 But you know, when I went to Mongolia, I did 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.120 take up a I think a dip theory of tests. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.920 I had my latest technics shots and I do believe 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.040 in vaccines and if there's something available there, I will 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.800 study it there. I might not be the first dude 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.320 that gets a shot, but after after a few people 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.200 take it and look at it, I will. Um. So, yeah, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.040 I'm a firm believer in the in the vaccines. And 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.920 I'm a dude too that you know. I had the 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:30.000 months of the measles chicken pox, uh, and then then 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.960 I got I went through the line one day at 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.839 school and they vaccinated me, and this alien it come 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.079 up here on my my my shoulder and popped out 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.640 there and grew back to your culture for smallpox. So 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.160 I have been vaccinated for smallpox and have the scar 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.680 for that, and a lot of the young people have 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.880 not never went through uh any of that stuff. And 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.880 you know, I can remember my mom, all three of us, 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.600 my sister Kim and my brother Kent. We was running. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.160 Asked while through the house with with the months, and 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.760 my mom's said it, Kevin, if you don't settle your 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.200 grass down, says, your nuts is gonna shrivel up the 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.840 size of a marble. So you know it doesn't have me. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.320 I don't know if I listened to her or not. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.280 I do have two kids, so but I do remember 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:17.040 her saying that. So, but you know I've been exposed 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.400 to that, and we've become sterile America. We won't even 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.360 hardly drink tatwater. You know, you go into the office 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.760 and you see a uh you know, bottle water, a 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.080 water machine and all that, and there's a certain amount 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.080 that you can get immunity. I've got a good friend 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.360 that he his dad's engineer. Uh they had a plant 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.040 in Iraq or Iran. He said, man Burfy, I hate 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.320 going over there when I was a kid, said I would, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.680 I would get dys interior every time I'd go until 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.200 I built up a community to it. And he had. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.240 He showed me in college he had a bottle of 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.160 tap water that come out of the municipal system of 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.400 where hell, it didn't look any better than Berkeley Lake. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.800 And I just saw him back in February and I 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.480 asked him, so, man, remember that that bottle of tapwater 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.520 that you had from Iraq or Iran? And his eyes 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.200 lit up and he said, oh, I bet my mom 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.640 still got that. I said, that just fascinated me. And 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.120 you know, small things like that fascinating that we take 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.200 for granted in this country, that that other places, you know, 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.680 they don't they don't have that, that that mechanism that 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.200 makes sure everything as safe as it can be, that 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.280 we just take for granted and uh don't utilize. You know, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:26.120 the research is out there. Yeah, So tell me real 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:31.320 quick about this hunting station wagon you're working on. Oh, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.400 I brought back from the dead yesterday. A American Motors 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:39.440 Corporation nineteen eighty four American Eagle four door, four wheel 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.280 drive station wagon that has not been uh fared up 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.280 since nineteen or two thousand and eight, so twelve years 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.320 it has not been on the road. I got it 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.800 jacked up, put some wheat eater gas, and it got 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.840 a young boy out there showing him the way. He's 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.640 thirty eight, says he's raising on a farm, but he's 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.000 scared to death of a handy man jack. So hey, Stefan, 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.720 you can't pull that wheed eater gas. And there I see, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.720 yes I can. So the guess date was bad. So 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.320 I just got the fuel line off the uh uh, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.800 the fuel pump, and got me a water bottle. Now 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.240 I do consume water bottles. It is very convenient a 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.240 lot of times. And I feeled it full of wet 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.320 eater gas, which was some lubricant in there, and stuck 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.240 it down in there, and we fired it up and 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.360 she never missed a lick. Jacked it up, took the 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.920 tars and wheels off of it, and then just let 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.120 her set there and ida and spin and loup all 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.920 the seals and everything up. So I'm gonna bring it 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.320 back to the dead and baby drive up to Montana 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.400 and go hunting, and let about six or eight beetle 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.320 hands rolled out the back end it will be like 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.800 back in nine four. So you're saying where you're from. Uh, 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.040 used to be that you'd have instead of a hunting truck, 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.160 you had a hunting station wagon. Oh. I can remember 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.760 that as a kid. And I've been on a mission 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.000 here the last a couple of weeks. I put the 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.440 feelers out to all my friends and jump people and 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.560 everybody that I know. So, man, I'm looking for some 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.000 kind of vintage station wagon. Everybody says, ma'am, Murphy went jump, 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.320 got up really high. You get two three hundred dollars 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.800 for a body of Everybody started crushing it. So, Uh, 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:06.040 I found a big Buig State UH wagon over in 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.720 uh Liveston County. So I drove over there and it 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.480 had a Pearl Harbor Survivors license plate on it. And 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.280 I pulled into this trailer there and I kind of 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.240 looked at around. Looked like nobody was living there. And 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:17.720 I went down the road a couple of miles and 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.480 found two dudes on the side of the road talking 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.520 some farmers, and I talked to him about it. So, well, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.120 it's someone so lives there. So she comes to the door, 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.000 she'll have a shotgun. I said, that's the kind of 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.439 lady I like to deal with all up front. She 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.800 means business. So I found this American eagle. It was 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.680 only like two miles from the house. So I got 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.359 the local uh car guy. I'm always dragging in scouts 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.040 and wagoneers and vineage for wheel drives. So I got 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.919 him to haul it to the house yesterday and he 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.960 was kind of saying, man, yeah, before he spent a 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.520 bunch of money and needed fired up and all that. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.520 So I got it fired up yester afternoon and I 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.080 I sent him a picture of it, and he was 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.040 as excited as I was that brought it back from 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.520 the dead. So you know, I'm just like projects and 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.640 doing stuff and get it going and bringing the old 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.240 stuff back. Why why was it a station wagon thing 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.400 back in the day. Is this because availability? Yes, because 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.359 his family cards, you know. And I was talking to 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.160 the to the uh Mark Valley of the record guy. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:14.600 He says, you know, when I grew up as a kid, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.760 says we raised hosting cows and said we would buy 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.840 a bottle casts from a guy over in Callaway County 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.960 and said he had a station wagon instead of a 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.040 pickup truck. He says, you know, a new pickup truck 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.919 was about five thousand dollars and he could buy an 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.840 old used station wagon for five hundred. He could haul 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.960 his feed mineral he'd called calves in it right every 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.520 but yeah, it's just kind of availability, something cheap. There 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.560 was a lot of station wagons out and uh, you know, 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.359 you can't call a hall a bunch of kids in 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.920 a car, so it's multipurpose and it's like a mini 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.240 van of the day. The station wagon was there's three 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.680 three of us kids and then my mom and dad, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.200 and then we put the dog in the back. And 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.840 hell sometimes we just have a sedan and haul the 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.640 dogs in the in the back of it. We didn't 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.720 have a hunt you know, a designated hunting truck like 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.000 a like a bid now. So yeah, this was availability 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.720 and necessity. And then you got, uh, you got this 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.000 new dog. Yeah, don't even tell me. You name the 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:14.840 dog wings and things. It sounds a good restaurant. You know. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.240 The dog was pre named. It took me three months 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.320 on my best Jedi negotiating to get this dog. It 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.880 comes from Patrick Flannagan and it was never about money. 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.880 It was about being worthy enough to own a really good, 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.320 outstanding hunting dog, and I wanted something small, and I 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:34.480 went with us uh hunting in uh December out of 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.480 Kansas with zach of c Z and I had my 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.439 bird dog center. Uh Dan, Lieutenant Dan out with us. 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.680 And he's a he's a pleasure to hunt. He likes 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.119 to go out and make a circle, come back in 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.440 and get his head rubbed, rubbed. And I've got another 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.040 Why do you call that dog, Lieutenant Dan? Oh, it's 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.480 got a good ring to you know, Lieutenant Dan. He's worthy. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.800 He wants to serve you and do whatever is necessary. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.840 How uh And so we hunted with a sage wh 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.320 was the brother two wings and things, and uh we 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.040 hunted on a Saturday on Monday, the monday before he 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.160 was neutered. So they turned him loose and he out 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.679 hunted all of our dogs put together. It was a machine. 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.879 And he went out and he pointed something out the 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.480 middlefield and I walked up there and I saw something 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.119 gray and furry. The first thing that I thought that 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.320 went through my mind was it was a badger. And 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.119 I needed to protect the dog because I didn't want 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.320 the badger to tear his foot off. You know, Uh, 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.520 body real, real hard. So I hollered badger and then 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.000 I got to look at it. He had a coon 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.240 pointed out there in the in the field. So I'm 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.560 thinking multipurpose dog. And I asked him, says, man, has 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.119 this boy, Patrick Flanagan is from Border to the Border. 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.160 Has he got any dogs left like that? He said, 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.960 I think he's got three. So my I started negotiating 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.720