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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club, Yep,

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Speaker 1: it's the World's most Dangerous Morning. Short to Breakfast Club,

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Speaker 1: Charlamagne the god Enva is in a shreport with with

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Speaker 1: fifty cent in the game. But Laura Lenro says, here,

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Speaker 1: nihlis some moons here and we got a special guest.

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Speaker 1: He's got a new album out. Sauce Father to Sauce Walker,

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Speaker 1: what's up my brother?

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Speaker 2: And ain't say, Man, it's the kid that did not

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Speaker 2: the kid that didn't the reason why the Sauce Wire

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Speaker 2: was reading, you know the flag. But I'm speaking Sauce Walker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, people act like they know what you just.

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Speaker 2: I always do it that. I never say nothing that

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Speaker 2: I don't do, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think people don't realize about you, Sauce Walker.

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Speaker 1: You really are a dope ass rapper.

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Speaker 2: Thank you appressure like an mc MC life.

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Speaker 3: But I think the.

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Speaker 1: Online personality sometimes overshadows the boss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's more of a

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Speaker 2: thing like don't judge a book by its cover, but

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Speaker 2: also what we'd like to say in my and my

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Speaker 2: cool we'd like to say, don't let the souse full you.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, but also as well, you know,

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Speaker 2: I kind of felt like a lot of artists and

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Speaker 2: a lot of rappers put on this persona and they

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Speaker 2: put on this image, but like you always got to

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Speaker 2: be tough, for you always gotta be uh. It's just

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Speaker 2: like on some some some some street shit, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you can't just enjoy life for

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Speaker 2: be humorous or have uh, just have fun. And you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, enjoy life for what it is.

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Speaker 2: And I always be so serious and for me and

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Speaker 2: my personal experience, I feel like when you really come

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Speaker 2: from the struggle, when you really come from violence, when

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Speaker 2: you really come from pain and suffering, and you get

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Speaker 2: to a platform like Instagram, this app was made to

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Speaker 2: like pictures and make memories and have fun, and just

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Speaker 2: so happened it became a platform where people could create,

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Speaker 2: uh lucrative ways of generating residual incoming wealth off of

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, creating a wider audience through

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Speaker 2: a platform. And I felt like, why would I use

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Speaker 2: Instagram as a place to try to be like overly see,

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Speaker 2: it's overly hard when I'm trying to reach out to

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Speaker 2: the world. You know what I'm saying. Not mad at that,

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Speaker 2: That's how I look at it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that because some people do like

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't know certain things about certain people. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't know your baby daddy ain't been around in

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Speaker 3: And the kids can't afford healthcare?

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I made me laugh.

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Speaker 2: They make me laugh. When I first got on their platform,

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Speaker 2: I thought, this is a platform to find pretty girls

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It just became, it grew and

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Speaker 2: I was on Instagram where you can only take pictures

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Speaker 2: and one NIC's outfit. So I feel like I grew

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Speaker 2: with the platform. So I'm enjoy and have fun on

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're because when I was I

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Speaker 4: listened to we were talking about earlier some of your interviews,

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Speaker 4: and I listened to how you were talking about how

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Speaker 4: you like do like the promotions sometimes for other artists

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Speaker 4: and whatever, and I was like, this is how like

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Speaker 4: an influencer works. Like do you consider yourself an influencer too?

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Speaker 4: Or like it's just you?

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Speaker 2: I mean to be honest, I only wrap on the weekends.

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Speaker 2: I'm keep it real. I'm more of a lot of

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Speaker 2: things than an artist. I'm a CEO, I'm a I'm

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Speaker 2: a philanthropist in my community. I'm a motive, motivational speaker

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Speaker 2: different companies as well. I own six different LLC's, two corporations.

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Speaker 2: I sell boats all all forms of streaming up from

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Speaker 2: being a YouTuber with TikToker only fans rapping like I've done,

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Speaker 2: I do it. I've done it all that's within my

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Speaker 2: respected realm of hustling, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 2: rapping is just something that's first nature to me because

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Speaker 2: I've been doing in my whole life. I've been recording

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Speaker 2: Is just something that I just do with that I'm

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Speaker 2: I could be making me as a dollars podcasting, comedian, acting.

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Speaker 2: I'm just one of those stars with just multitanted but rapping.

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Speaker 2: It's a strong suit that I have lyrically, and that

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Speaker 2: it does get overshadowed and overlook because I'm self charismatic,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But you know it's a

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Speaker 2: gifting of courage because you know, it's certain areas where

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Speaker 2: it calls to have intelligence, conversation and charisma, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of artists don't have that in those areas. So

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Speaker 2: you may have good music and a good song that

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Speaker 2: lasts momentarily, but you don't laugh last for a lifetime

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Speaker 2: because people not invested to you as a person, as

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Speaker 2: a as a human being more than just your music.

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Speaker 2: You know, music is subjective. Sometimes it's good, sometimes people

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Speaker 4: But does it get to you sometimes? Like when you

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Speaker 4: just drop that frees, I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah and our knock life yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like and people were like, yo, he really be going,

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Speaker 4: and like it's like almost like people are always relearning

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Speaker 4: that that's what you do. Naturally. Does that piss you

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Speaker 4: sometimes because it's like you do this?

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Speaker 2: I mean honestly, I always been one of them type

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Speaker 2: entire career. I'm sure the man is. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how familiar y'all are with me, but I know so

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Speaker 2: the main very familiar with my career. They've been we've

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Speaker 2: been talking to each other and trying to get me

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Speaker 2: up here for years, since early early in my career

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Speaker 2: when I was doing the Sauce Twins. So I've always

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Speaker 2: known and I've always been very vocal and confident about

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Speaker 2: the fact that I know I'm one of the best

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Speaker 2: rappers to ever live, not just of my generation or

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Speaker 2: not just from Texas, like I know for a million percent.

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Speaker 2: In fact, lyrically ball for ball, similar for similarly analogy

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Speaker 2: a message that people can actually grab knowledge, wholesomness, information

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Speaker 2: from pain, struggle and healing through the things that we

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Speaker 2: go through being black people in America, coming from poverty,

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Speaker 2: coming from struggle, broken broken parenting, or taking the struggle

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Speaker 2: part out of it, but just elite punchline skills and

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Speaker 3: He's not putting sauce on that I'm not. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: And I'm from the South, and I'm from the South.

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Speaker 2: I'm from Houston, Texas. You know what I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 2: And I'm looked at. I'm renowned, respected by New York

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Speaker 2: and New York rappers more than anywhere else. My biggest

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Speaker 2: market is New York. Houston or well, Texas is my

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Speaker 1: Maybe you should give him a quick sixteen just just

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Speaker 1: because before we keep keep the interview going.

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Speaker 2: I mean I could, but I really not a I'm

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Speaker 2: a I'm a freestyle rapper. I don't like had them

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Speaker 2: right ritten balls.

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Speaker 1: You can give him something that you've already given them before,

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Speaker 1: just so they know, just a little sample you have

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Speaker 1: A ain't ever heard sauce walking rap.

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Speaker 2: Must be I think a lot.

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Speaker 4: I think I think yeah, but I would love to

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Speaker 2: Out of it. I ain't never dripping about it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know it is.

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Speaker 3: The weekend, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm a freestyle you know, I want

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I really can't to talk,

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Speaker 2: but I will like it ain't nothing to it but

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Speaker 2: some ace time ship, but more than some sid ship.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna like get the wrapping about the stuff in

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Speaker 2: up like a balloon. Come out the cocoon and fly

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Speaker 2: it in the butter tusef business pulled up No study

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Speaker 2: alligator now later slepter hater. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: being the sauce dripping major flavor Like I'm gonna just

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Speaker 2: go out the top like.

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Speaker 3: No I need to because he can really wrap.

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Speaker 5: I know that that hen just talking about things.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 5: You were talking about all your many business ventures and

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Speaker 5: all the things that you do. In the first record

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Speaker 5: on Sopot the two is master p and I really

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Speaker 5: love the relationship between Texas.

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Speaker 3: And New Orleans.

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Speaker 5: Uh, just talk to me about your your relationship with

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Speaker 5: master P Song.

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Speaker 3: And what you think. But go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a master P and in a lot

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Speaker 2: And I also feel that, and I've been told this

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Speaker 2: do do business with or have done business within the industry,

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Speaker 2: that some of the deal structures that I've created are

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Speaker 2: kind of like master P deals because it's like very

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Speaker 2: rare where artists can sign a deal with an any

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Speaker 2: major label or major label, get millions of dollars and

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Speaker 2: still keep his entire catalog separated from that contractual agreement

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Speaker 2: and having a record label with I got fifty fifty artists,

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Speaker 2: well producers of artists as well, but forty some artists

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Speaker 2: and I have u those forty some are artists. Probably

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Speaker 2: like seven or eight of those artists are international from

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Speaker 2: I think that I've created a cult fan base and

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Speaker 2: the following somewhat similar to No Limit and Master P

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Speaker 2: with Saucewalker and the Sauce Family. T yourself.

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Speaker 3: But in that song you're talking about pimping.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always talking about the pimping. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's the P is a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: It's being a pimp, is being a players, being a president,

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Speaker 2: is being prestigious, it's being professional, it's being power, It's

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Speaker 2: being a lot of things being a p You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And I represent all of those titles

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Speaker 2: very well. But I'm who created P.

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Speaker 3: It come from Texas or they come from.

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Speaker 2: Saying the TURNP pushing P. Well, I don't push P.

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Speaker 2: What we do is something different. The p itself don't

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Speaker 2: come from no no rappers or none of that. The

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Speaker 2: psself come from the game. It comes from a man

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Speaker 2: with a plan and a woman with a vagina that's

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Speaker 2: a little bit finer. That's what the P comes from.

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Speaker 2: All the other stuff is like fabricated or extra like

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Speaker 2: you can make it sound cool, like saying you're pushing paper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so this again, again, again again again. Okay,

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Speaker 2: not make it about body shaming. Okay, the more in shape,

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Speaker 4: And we know that. And yeah, we know that. We

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, rubbing her head and she know

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Speaker 4: Didn't say anything. The only thing I didn't agree with.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the way you phrased it. But understanding

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Speaker 4: It's like, but a bad bitch is different than so

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Speaker 2: Beautiful woman, every woman is seeing something. Every woman is beautiful,

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Speaker 1: Beautiful conversation we had this morning, because what I was

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Speaker 1: saying that I get mad when certain women be like,

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Speaker 1: for me, that's not true. It's a mutually beneficial thing, right,

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Speaker 1: Everybody gonna do something everybody, but the raggedy ones be talking.

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Speaker 3: The raggety ones that be like, I ain't doing nothing,

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Speaker 2: I feel I feel that, I feel that. As much

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Speaker 2: there's raggedy every day.

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Speaker 4: They don't never cheat with nobody better.

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Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. A woman is never the prize to

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Speaker 1: And I think I get what you're saying, but I

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Speaker 3: Dress for women.

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Speaker 2: Or or even if it's not necessary to check certain women,

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Speaker 2: How can I help him be bigger and better and stronger,

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Speaker 4: So you're talking about like people becoming like popping, right

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Speaker 2: Like I was born, I was popping. I knew I

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Speaker 2: like I understand the difference between being a handsome man

436
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: but just a man that don't have natural you know

437
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, the ability to just captivate a woman's attention.

438
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: Don't want to tell nobody ugly for nothing.

439
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the conversation you have a podcast.

440
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: Said you said, I don't want to call anybody ugly.

441
00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: You ain't wanna call the girl.

442
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm so I've been saying certain stuff about with girls

443
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 2: or just with people in there. People just wanting to

444
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: attack me from my opinion.

445
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: But everybody checking.

446
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's so informative, Like I would love to

447
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: watch a podcast on top of then some of that.

448
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 4: Should I say, sometimes you be calling like you be

449
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 4: calling people out for stuff like that's what I when

450
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 4: I hear your name, that's it.

451
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: Like it is. I know not I've been going to

452
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: change that.

453
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 4: The Drake moment was the moment.

454
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: That's when a lot of people know me from controversial

455
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: ship like that. Yeah, yeah, i'mnn stand on the business

456
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: regardless of whoever whatever you call.

457
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because you called Drake Off a cultural

458
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: appropriation way before Kendrick did.

459
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: I did. I did. I definitely did. And if my

460
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: if my whole city would have supported what I was

461
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: on back then for the reasons that I did it,

462
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: then we would have got the same reaction that Kendrick

463
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: Lamore in California did, and I think it's just a

464
00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: beautiful thing with again no discredit to either one or artists,

465
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: because again I have nothing to do with that shit,

466
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: and I don't give a fuck about that shit because

467
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm a millionaire, I'm Southwalker, and I made it. I

468
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: beat the black ball of the rap games of those

469
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: typeosittion scenarios. But to speak on that particular situation is

470
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: that it's just a beautiful thing to see the outcome

471
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: of an entire city and then entire state standing behind

472
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: the artist that represents them, will it represents the culture

473
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: and just trying to defend for their culture and the

474
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: culture itself, not trying to mediate or prohibit their artists

475
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: from fending for their culture, but instead standing behind them

476
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: and supporting that ideal. And that's the difference between appreciation

477
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: and appropriation, and that's what creates a bigger landscape of

478
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: economy and opportunity for that city, because regardless of New

479
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: York is the same way if somebody was to come

480
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: to New York and try to appropriate New York culching

481
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: and style and not give back to it. Like, I

482
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: don't know who's a good example to use, but because

483
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: nobody does that in fuck New York. Nobody come to

484
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: New York and act like a battle rapper, or act

485
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: like a lyricist, or act like a fucking drill rapper

486
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: out there. Don't do music with the drill rappers. Don't

487
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: come rap with you cannot do that. It doesn't make sense.

488
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: You can't. When everybody was doing this little this ship

489
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: and doing that little Jersey dance. Nobody from around the

490
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: world did that dance or made music on that sound

491
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: frequency without acknowledging that it came from those places of

492
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: bringing those kids from New Jersey on stage or in

493
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: the East Coast is going to govern that the South

494
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: was in Texas, Houston especially was supposed to govern government.

495
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, it's cool. Look, somebody

496
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: got to do it, and I did it. I ain't

497
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: tripping them. Bro.

498
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: Don't you think Houston probably looks at Drake different because

499
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be Houston.

500
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't give a fuck what Houston look at it.

501
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: It's what I said. I'm a j prince too, Like

502
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: what I'm my world is a law. What I'm saying

503
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: is what I speak is the real opinions of the

504
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 2: city of Houston, the people that's in the south side,

505
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: the people that's on the north side, the people that

506
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: they just ain't got the platform or the voice or

507
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: the the not gonna get the response, and I'm gonna

508
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: get in. They can't faith the heat, faith the water.

509
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: Everybody know, I got the manpower, I got the money,

510
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: I had the well with the validity, whatever this needed

511
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: necessary from my age then to right now. Just like

512
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: I've shown people, it's a lot of people that thought

513
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna be overnight or fly by night artists

514
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: or artist that. And then you also understand realized that

515
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm independent. I've been independent my entire rap career ten years.

516
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: I've been in rep game ten years now, going on

517
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: eleven years, and I'm a multi millionaire, still more relevant

518
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: the majority of the rappers that came out in my

519
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: general in my generation of my period, my time period.

520
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: Ten years later, I'm still making all this money and

521
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: still growing. So you know, it's more of a thing

522
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: for me, like if if somebody don't take the chance

523
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: to make the step or to speak up on it,

524
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: then I'm just like everybody else is just complaining behind

525
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: closed doors and being scary or just you know what

526
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And then what I was saying it was

527
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: not no, It's not make believe. It's simple. It's not

528
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: fucking rocket science. It was simple. Shit. If you in

529
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: this city and you saying like what you just said,

530
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: you just said that it wouldn't be no, it wouldn't

531
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: be no Drake without Houston. Okay. So at the time,

532
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 2: why did Drake not and still to this day, why

533
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: did Drake not have no bunch of records with Houston artists?

534
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: You aren't doing that with Eleanta. If you love Leanta

535
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: and he got it's seven, eight, nine, fifteen artists that

536
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: you got songs with in Atleanta, because why not only

537
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: does it not only does you know that the city

538
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: of Atleanta was gonna look at you weird for not

539
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: doing that, look at you and feel a certain type

540
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: of way by you by you not making those I

541
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: was making those moments with the city. But you knew

542
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: that it was also beneficial for you as an artist

543
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: to make music with these songs because the leveling of

544
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: stardom and momentum it feeds each other. Versus you feel

545
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: that I'm just the a side all this this lifting up,

546
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: this musician. But as far as the city of Houston,

547
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: you're looking at it for the market share. All of

548
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: these countries people in Houston, Nigga, all of this land,

549
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: all these clubs, all these women, all these people in

550
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: these big ass arenas and eventsments go on, but they

551
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: don't have a large community and representatives of people that

552
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: are knowledgeable about the music industry, that have resources that

553
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: can say, Hey, y'all been around this artist and you

554
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: help them. You was in the studio when they was

555
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: making that song. You told them to add this and

556
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: this on the hook. You get a couple of writer

557
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: points for that. You was up and there where you

558
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: made the b were supposed to get. Okay, you y'all

559
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: was in the You brought him to Houston, and you

560
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: took him there to this club. You took them in

561
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: this hood, and you may introduced them to Charlamagne. It's

562
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: a feature in the song come behind that in every

563
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: other the city. It's a long live California. It's a

564
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: long list artist from the Bay all the way to

565
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: la They got Drakes with songs with Drake. So how

566
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 2: did Drake love Houston so much at that time and

567
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: not have music with artists that you are uplifting from

568
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: this community. Fuck me, I don't care if it was

569
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: bigger than me. I didn't care about the sign on me.

570
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, but what I would like

571
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: up and from then to now, Travis Scott is the

572
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: only rapper that still got us on with Drake Travis

573
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: Scott Again, what I just said earlier, it makes sense.

574
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 2: It's an equal trade. It's not necessarily like, oh bro,

575
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: I'm just making it. I'm helping Houston and changing your

576
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: life and changing the career your career, and it's bigger

577
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: than's it's saying, Oh well, a person wants to Drake

578
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: stimulus package, about the fuck out of that. It's about

579
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: fair exchange and business. If if you are using the

580
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: lineage and the culture of somebody's city, of somebody's hometown

581
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: in backyard, do something that helps not yourself and your

582
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: your your more of your notoriety for your own benefit

583
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: with the ladies and the people in the city. Do

584
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: something that actually make still economy of that city in

585
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: music and musicians bigger and greater. So therefore we can

586
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: have Roland Loud in Houston, we can have more young

587
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: artists performing on bigger platforms, Jimmy Filing and Jay Lennon

588
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: and all this other shit, because the artist of this

589
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: magnitude is living in our backyard. That's all I was saying,

590
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: not just for me, just for anybody.

591
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: Did y'all have that conversation, because there was a video

592
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: of y'all.

593
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I vocalized and had whatever I say, whatever

594
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: I feel is something that I to anybody and everybody

595
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: to they face behind closed, like everybody know this about me.

596
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, Like when it comes to

597
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: stuff like that, I just don't give a fuck, Like

598
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because I've been rich before rap.

599
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be rich during rap. I'm gonna be rich

600
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: after rap. I'm gonna be real. I wrap for money

601
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: like I don't wrap for like, Yeah, I wrap for money. Now.

602
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: It's because I understand let me say that, let me

603
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: make that make sense. I understand that what rapping does

604
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: is create money for everybody there around me, not just myself.

605
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: And that's what also plays more into the conversation was

606
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: having other about the Drake shit, because it's not about Drake,

607
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: not tring to be just steady talking about Drake and

608
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: harping on him. It's just period in hip hop and

609
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: black culture. Period. If I'm going to foreign land and

610
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: I have resources and you have resources that I want

611
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: to also generate from, we're supposed to share, we' suposed

612
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: to trade, and that's what makes everybody stronger. So it

613
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: just doesn't It didn't make sense, and it was just

614
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: a total line of disrespect to me at the time,

615
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: knowing that this this, this particular and this will be

616
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: for any celebrity and artists, this particular superstar, this particular

617
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: entity that's in my city can simply make two songs

618
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: with two different artists here, that's going to create so

619
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: much revenue from ESPN's to the talk shows, to Nikes

620
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: and all these huge companies seeing that, Oh wow, there's

621
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: there's there's money, there's momentum, there's lucrativeness in the state

622
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: of Texas. Look at these artists working with these artists. Okay,

623
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: maybe it makes sense for us to run the NBA

624
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: campaign behind this song with these artists when we have

625
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: Toronto planning against the Houston Rockets, so Toronto playing against

626
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks. We're gonna make sure that these artists

627
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: are sitting on the sidelines that we do. And that's

628
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: just all that that I understood from a business standpoint

629
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: that that should be happening.

630
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Isn't that required the Houston artists too. I mean, Travis

631
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: ain't no slops. Travis is a big.

632
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: Deal and and and I vocally publicly have stood on

633
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: the business and made Travis adhere to that type of

634
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 2: shit Like that's me and Travis got a real brotherly relationship,

635
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: Like it's in Houston. Know that, Like there's been times

636
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: was still going on where I asked and require like

637
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: Travis bro like it's do this with this artist, or

638
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: acknowledge this artist, or like you know what I'm saying,

639
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Let's let's go do this music right here. And Trevis

640
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: does it because Trevin understand Like that's the difference, Like

641
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Travis sond artists from Houston. Trevis has made music with

642
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: all this from Houston. Traffick show up the music videos

643
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: for allis from Houston, old and knew. He do concerts,

644
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: put Houston artists on the on the bill, put him

645
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: on his main performers. He does his due diligence. Megan A. Stallion,

646
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: she does something she had songs with Softwalk. She got

647
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: songs with Max o'cran, she got songs with Little key Y,

648
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: she got song Bet Poky. That's really being from a city,

649
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: being in appreciating the culture of me being in New York.

650
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: I love New York. I made a New York album

651
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: produced by New York producers with New York artist featured

652
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: on it. You just seen Mayno just came through the window.

653
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: Oh my boys, Suce I made songs with Mayno years

654
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: and years and years ago. No disrespect to bun Bet.

655
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: He's from Port Author, He's not from Houston. Make a

656
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: lot of people trying to say, oh what Drake made

657
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: a sound Bun Bun being not from Houston, No disrespect him.

658
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: This is Houston, Texas you was talking about. You just

659
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: said Houston. Did you say Port Author? Du say Houston?

660
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: All right there.

661
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Next, you made an excellent point too on bootlet keV

662
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: podcast that I want I want you to get into

663
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: because I really loved it.

664
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Speaker 3: You said it's the boule keV.

665
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: You said only fans is providing women with a safer

666
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: alternative to the streets and offering them a sense of

667
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: intimate freedom.

668
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: Yes, librate on that. I mean it's it's the alternate.

669
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: It's the substitution to prostitution. It's a way for a

670
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: woman to give a man the same ecstasy and fulfillment

671
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: that he gets touching her body physically. But she could

672
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: do it from the comfortability of her home, in a

673
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: living room or in a ballroom and retain the physical

674
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: side of her dignity. Now that may be in opinion

675
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: from her family's, friends, co workers, and loved ones about

676
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: her body being out there on pictures, But again we

677
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: talked about earlier were living in the world where the

678
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: average woman on the internet is showing you some form

679
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: of skin. The average woman understands the algorithm feeds her

680
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: pockets and feeds her marketing strategies much more. Where she

681
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: looks appealing and sexually appealing to the eye of not

682
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: just men, but the women who inspire to look like her.

683
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: These are the things that are beneficial for her market

684
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: place and share to set products because as a woman,

685
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: nobody wants to buy. A man will buy a product

686
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: from another rough looking man with a scruffy beard and

687
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: with the with the woo because of the message behind

688
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: the product. A woman not buying a product from another

689
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: woman that she doesn't see in some shape of beautiful

690
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 2: the way she looks at herself.

691
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: So is that true, Lauren?

692
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. When you start talking about that, I

693
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 4: start thinking about it when I get my hair done,

694
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 4: No I did. I didn't even see her.

695
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: Thinking like I will go get a haircut from about head, motherfucker,

696
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: when I would never go get a hair done.

697
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: Come on, when I get my hair done to the.

698
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: Dread lady, they go get your fune to put in now.

699
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: And if I'm trying a new artist, I go to

700
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: the Instagram and I want to see how she's doing

701
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: her hair personally when she goes out. Maybe she not

702
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: dressed up in a salon, but I do want to

703
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: see how Sis looks on a daily because it's like,

704
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 4: can she upkeep? Because then if she matched my upkeep,

705
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: I know she's not gonna you're not gonna see my HD.

706
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I know. I'm sorry. I'm the facts man.

707
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: You know it's not really I mean, I don't.

708
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if I care too much, like I

709
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: think scrolling online.

710
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: I support it, like I do like.

711
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 5: Seeing women in their femininity, but it doesn't like swear

712
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 5: me one way or the other.

713
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 4: Whether I want to work with you or not.

714
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 5: I want to work with you.

715
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 4: If you do good work.

716
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh question what I'm saying.

717
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: But I guess for you, like take the like is

718
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 4: she like beautiful or not out?

719
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: It's just.

720
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 4: There you are brand wise, like there are certain brands

721
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: that like if they read to you right now, it's

722
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: not where you at. It's not matching aesthetic and you're

723
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 4: not going to you're not leaning that way.

724
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: What kind of what what? What kind of quarter you drive?

725
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: If you don't mind me asking, I don't have a car,

726
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: okay from New York. Okay, I'm trying to think, like,

727
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: what's your favorite fashion brand? What's your favorite thing? Will

728
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: fashion over fashion over? Okay?

729
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 5: Really we're fashion over.

730
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: I know that I would be flying. I thought i'd

731
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: be like thrift store types.

732
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's you see what I'm saying. It still

733
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: goes back. You know how fashion over became fashion over

734
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: women liking for the women fashion over Give me the

735
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: most beautiful women in the world, the most sexiest women

736
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: in the world. Closed that look top tier, fashion that

737
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: look high end designer. But we're giving it to you

738
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: for free or the super affordable price. Exactly all you

739
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: have to do is stretch out of a blanket and

740
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: fit it across the body, and it can be so

741
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: this woman. You put a blanket across the woman's body

742
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: and she can go on the wrong with the t

743
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: the men that's wearing Louis Vaton and Christian Dior and

744
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: all this other shit. That's just the truth. I don't

745
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: know how much you a man gotta go spend fifteen

746
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, six thousand, folks, it's very seldom in today's

747
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: day and age that a man could go get the

748
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: type of women that he wants in this world off

749
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: of just a white a white tea, and a nice beard.

750
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: Unless you fine, he got.

751
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: To be fine, exactly. I'm gonna look at the jeans,

752
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: like the jeans you got on. You got to watch

753
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: like what because.

754
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: A lot of women know that to find a fine

755
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: man that don't got this ship together ain't nothing but

756
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: another beer, responsibility and the problem good dick in the headache.

757
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: A lot of women they get they waking up to

758
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: that girl.

759
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: It's not even about money either. It's like I want

760
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: to like, it's so, how do you take care of yourself?

761
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: Like because you don't even got Yeah, with the change.

762
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: I can tell about the jeans like this is a

763
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: wells healed.

764
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: A man would look at A man would look at

765
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: that same business and the same thing. Like, you know what,

766
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: I see some flaws. I see some stuff wrong. But

767
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: maybe let me give you some suggestions. Let me help

768
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: you see I can make this big thing better. Let

769
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: me get involved with this big you know what I'm saying.

770
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: So I think the girl math basically that's what that's.

771
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: B so, you know, but you know, for me, that's

772
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: just how I be looking at stuff.

773
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: Bro.

774
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: I like the record. You got rules too, men, because

775
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: I feel like there aren't any anymore.

776
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't nothing, and a lot of people need

777
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: to learn from this shit. Earn from this shit. You

778
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You rule number one. I always

779
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: move like a boss. You know what I'm saying. You know,

780
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: h God, damn me. Keep your eyes open. You know

781
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Fuck the beef, Let's get to the cheese.

782
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to my boy

783
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: boss man d lo yeoh man. You know all my

784
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Even when I make a music, it ain't like the

785
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: lyrical ghet up gospel stuff. I still try to have

786
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: a missage. I still try to have some knowledge and

787
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: in some empowerments something that people can learn from and

788
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: earn from, you know what I'm saying amongst all the

789
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: ignorance and like like we were saying earlier, Like a

790
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: lot of people like judge judge me by by my

791
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: the way I am and the way I act. But

792
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: I act stupid because I'm smarter than a lot of people.

793
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: I play dumb because I understand the power that I possess.

794
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: In the knowledge that I possess, it's actually dangerous, you

795
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So you know, I feel like

796
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: this one little life, one chance at this video game

797
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: that we got to live, there is a time and

798
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: a place for everything. And if you don't understand the

799
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: rules and the strategy that needed to be implemented in

800
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: the game of life that you're playing, and you're plan

801
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: to lose. So you know what I'm saying. I try

802
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: to just try to keep that message in my music,

803
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: even when we having fun that were in the club

804
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: getting high and drunk, and even like as far as

805
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: men like, it's a lot of shit that men need

806
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: to just like my opinion is not just about women

807
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: and shit like that. It's a lot of bullshit ass

808
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: niggas out here. It's a lot of unworthy ass niggas,

809
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: a lot of not king, not king built deserving men

810
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: out here that need to be taught or need to

811
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: be there, or need to be influenced.

812
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: And so they start projecting that hurt on everybody.

813
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: Else, right right right? You know what I'm saying. And

814
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: I try to like as much as I have an

815
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: opinion towards women, I have an opinion towards niggas as well,

816
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: like y'all about how we should not saying saying, y'all,

817
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: how we should be better. You know what I'm saying,

818
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: how we could be you know, more useful to our

819
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: women and into our community and to the world. You

820
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I believe that's what the pimping is.

821
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: That what the is and me is period is like

822
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: somebody just having a knowledge and the understanding and the

823
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: accountability within themselves to say, I'm willing to do all

824
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: these things to make myself better. And because I was

825
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: able to go through the process of these things to

826
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: make myself better and learn these learn these attributes, learn

827
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: these skill set if you are going to be in

828
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: my life. If you're going to be in a relationship

829
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: in my life, then you have to follow some of

830
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: the beliefs that I have because I have used these

831
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: things to be successful. You know what I'm saying. That's

832
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: just like a person who owns a company. I bought

833
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: the building, I put all the equipment up here, but

834
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the workload as far as

835
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: what to do in this building to sell products and

836
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: facilitate this store. But I'm the one that got to

837
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: pay twenty thousand a month for this facility. I have

838
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: to keep the cargo coming in. I have to do this,

839
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: but it doesn't make sense for me to be in

840
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: here doing the physical work. So I try to use

841
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: that same thought process in life, like, Okay, if Nigga's

842
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: gonna be around me, you're gonna be my brother, my partner,

843
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: my business. I said, Nigga, you gotta be able to

844
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: either teach me some, show me some, or help me

845
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: do something. And I need to be able to teach

846
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: yourself to show you something to help you do something,

847
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: because if you can't use me, then I'm useless. If

848
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: I can't use you, then you're useless. Then then who

849
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: the fucks wants to be in a circle full of

850
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: people with know nothing is being utilized. That's idole's time,

851
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: I heard. I thought, that's what the devil's playground is,

852
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: idle time.

853
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: That's my grandma say. But with such an elevated way

854
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: of learning and thinking like, there are still sometimes though,

855
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: where like you put yourself on I won't even say

856
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: put yourself but you get into some certain situations like

857
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: that the high speed chase. How like is that like

858
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 4: a thing of the not happening anymore?

859
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: Like?

860
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: How does a person that thinks and knows how valuable

861
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: you are end up in a situation like that?

862
00:41:54,760 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: Because not perfect?

863
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 4: All right, whatever makes you comfortable.

864
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have fun in the joy life Walker, I'll

865
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: give it them. But the point of what I'm trying

866
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: to say is I'm still a street nigga. Man. I'm

867
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: still again, I said, I only rap on the weekends.

868
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: I spend a lot of my time in multiple cities

869
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: just being out and about in the communities, in multiple

870
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: different trap houses, chilling with rappers, like up and coming rappers,

871
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: people who aspire to be rappers. I'm still like in

872
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: a grid of it, you know. I might record. I

873
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: don't always record in professional studios and backgrounds. Sometimes I'm

874
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: recording in some apartments. You know what I'm saying, just

875
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 2: to get that feeling in their true essence of where

876
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: I started it with it, you know what I'm saying,

877
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: And just to also be motivational piece for people to see,

878
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: like you could tell success, you could be like you

879
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: see a cyber truck on the internet and sat walk up,

880
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: bringing the cyber truck right to your ghetto and right

881
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: to your hood. And me having that that connection and

882
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: openness to my background and where I come from, is

883
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: still indulging in some of the activities that come from

884
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: where I come from. Something that simpler and smoking weed

885
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: and sip and drink or put you in a position

886
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: to where it's like, oh damn, now I'm getting pulled over.

887
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I might be going through

888
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: this and that and I still I know I said,

889
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: I said, now I'm getting pulled out. You know what

890
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And you know it just be high b

891
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know, like you know

892
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: I was just in a situation where you first of all,

893
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: would you know what I'm saying the way that you

894
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: know it was just it is what it is. It is.

895
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm I would say this, I would say this without

896
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: saying too much. I'd say this is that I grew

897
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: up where if a car is telling me or following

898
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: me fast with all the lights off, I'm trying to

899
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: do two things, respond or respond, And in that situation

900
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: I was. You know, that was my response. And I've

901
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: had a history of responding that way, you know what

902
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying, in certain and certain cause, and I'm just

903
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: growing to change that by myself. But at the end

904
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: of the day, you know, it is what it is.

905
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

906
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: It's about when you had the broomstick and the dude

907
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: was coming at you with the knife.

908
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm just violent. I'm just no like meaning as far

909
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: as like when somebody aggresses me, like brings aggression to me.

910
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: I'm just that just how I am finishing. I don't

911
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: got security and none of that. I don't do Like

912
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: you just seen I come up here with five hundred

913
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: thousand other chaina on. I ain't got no big tall

914
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: person with black te on and in a little pouch

915
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: like yeah, I ain't one of them. Type out my

916
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: own security. I beat people up. I've been to the penitentiary.

917
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: I've been fighting and defending myself my whole like my

918
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 2: daddy six y five, Like I have no physical fear

919
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: of confrontation, death for another man, weapons, gun like I

920
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: just offrom off from Here's the taste is a place

921
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: where guns or cell phones and wallets. A handgun is

922
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: a cell phone. Where I'm from. Where I'm from, every

923
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: person in this radio station got a handgun in their

924
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: bag every day of their life. Every woman is trained

925
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: normally regularly to walk around with a handgun. Every single

926
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: one of y'all where I'm from, in the radio station

927
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: right now while they're at work. You got your gun.

928
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: You got your little pink toy Chris gun. She got

929
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: her gun. You know what I'm saying. That's how so

930
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: uh for that. That guy was just tripping like it was.

931
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: He was a he's a homeless guy drug at it.

932
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: He was tweaking on everybody, baring everybody, and then he

933
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: came to me and my friend with that ship, and

934
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: we just ain't going for this, especially me, Like I

935
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: enjoy defending myself, like I I don't want to hear

936
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: nobody I don't want to fight nobody. But when these

937
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: situations occur, whether it's life or death, I just enjoyed

938
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: defending myself because that is who I'm inspired by. Goku,

939
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm inspired by vegeta, I'm inspired by why you. I'm

940
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: inspired by niggas, people that whoop ass. So when I'm

941
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: put in a situation where I gotta whoop ass, I'm

942
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: gonna whoop ass. You gonna You're gonna have to whoop me?

943
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: Well, when do you give up the screen life styles?

944
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: Because you you got a lot to offer.

945
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean, my personal opinion, I feel that life has

946
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: just I don't think it's ever gonna prohibit the blessing

947
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: for me to just completely walk away from the streets

948
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: because what I was born into, and by me being

949
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: born into this lifestyle, into this way of thinking, and

950
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: to these relationships with people, I owe certain lords to

951
00:46:51,840 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: certain relationships, certain accountability of going back to the community

952
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: in which I was raised, then in the people that

953
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: shared my struggles and be a vessel of cleansing and

954
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: healing and teaching and prosperity to them. I have to

955
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: go back and be with them. I have to go

956
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: in those communities and be a part of the activities

957
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,959
Speaker 2: and the struggles and the conversations that's going on and

958
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: from where I come from to make a difference. Yeah,

959
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: just in general period. Can't you how you do have

960
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: to be involved with a criminal aspect. That don't mean

961
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: I have to be doing crime. I don't have to

962
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: be doing crime, but I have to be able to

963
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 2: If you want to tell somebody to stop sitting and crack,

964
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: you have to be able to walk in the crack

965
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: house where he's setting dope at and then offer him

966
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: another job, another opportunity, another way that we can both

967
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: sit at this table. We're going to compare this business opportunity,

968
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: this business strategy compared to the scale and the dope,

969
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: and I'm going to show you how this is going

970
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: to be bore, beneficial and life changing for you than this.

971
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: I cannot convince him to do that if I'm not

972
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: willing to go into his habitat and his surroundings to

973
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: convince him. I pulled up to the trenches in this

974
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: car that you want the videos that you in here

975
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: selling up to watching and the way that they live

976
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: in and these videos, I'm living like that right here

977
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: in your face, and I'm telling you that there are

978
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: ways for you to use your same hustle, your same strategy,

979
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: and infuse that with a different way of creating money.

980
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to tell them jump in the calls,

981
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: go to a restaurant because I can't sit in the

982
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: track out the police come in here. They're not gonna says,

983
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: walkers in here, opportunity.

984
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: That's just a certain that's just a scenario that makes sense.

985
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: But I still got to meet you at ground zero.

986
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: We'll tell people put the guns down. But it's like

987
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 4: people are literally that you got it's me or you sometimes.

988
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, it comes it comes to these places where we're

989
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: getting shot at all day to understand why we have

990
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: these guns now exactly, that's just like that's just like

991
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: me with the box and shit. Okay, like you want

992
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: want fuckers to stop shooting guns and all that, But

993
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: then you also have to show them that you're willing

994
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: to do what I don't what I want. I'm willing

995
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: to do what I'm asking you to do. I'm willing

996
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: to make the change, or I've already made the change,

997
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: or I'm willing to take the risk, and I'm suggesting

998
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: for you to take and I'm trying to make it

999
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: look cool, look look respectable, look fun, look honorable, to

1000
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: where you can stay. Have a two black men, the

1001
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: two brown men, two men of color of any ethnicity

1002
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: of color, can have a physical few, have a fight,

1003
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: have a disagreement, and we both go home to our

1004
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: families and our children.

1005
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 5: Being able to go back to ground zero. I think

1006
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: is just like, though you're you've elevated, you know you're

1007
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 5: still humble. And then I kind of wanted to pivot

1008
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: back to you talking about the rules, and somewhere in

1009
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: this conversation you're also talking about pouring into your community,

1010
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 5: Like where did you get all of all of your

1011
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: your coding, like your ethics, Because.

1012
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: I really come from a lot of nothing. And when

1013
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: I say that, I mean like I grew up in

1014
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: a or motherless home, not a fatherless home.

1015
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: And but you your mom was a strip your words,

1016
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: a scripple.

1017
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: My mom was a whole. My mom was a prostitute.

1018
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: My mom was a dancer. Mama was exact a dancer.

1019
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: My mom was also a gangster. My mom was also

1020
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: a hustler, you know what I'm saying. So my father

1021
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: was was aspiring athlete, aspiring football player aspiring wrestler. He

1022
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: never made it like you know what I'm saying to

1023
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: the top, or like my dad is not like no

1024
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: household name wrestler that you know. His name my dad

1025
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: names is our rage Walker's not any of these other

1026
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: guys that you know. People look at his spectacles of

1027
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: millionaires and even though it's wrestlers, them niggas really broke

1028
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: to honestly. But yeah, I grew up where cocaine, crack, heroin,

1029
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: the aroma of it being cooked and prepared to be

1030
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: used as like air freshen in the living room to

1031
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: me type shit for a large period of time. Then

1032
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: there's a period of time after that where my mother

1033
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: just wasn't present in my life at all for twelve

1034
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: thirteen years. And I'm just growing up as with a

1035
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: single father trying to chase his dream, raise me, raise

1036
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: another woman's family that he married, and also pay child

1037
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: support on me while I'm in his living room. You

1038
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: see how your face, you see how you see that,

1039
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: you see your face that I know exactly. It's crazy

1040
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: as fucking it, don't It barely makes sense to do it.

1041
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: But that's the world we live in. Because of a

1042
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: woman asks for child support and got the documentation needed

1043
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: necess say she's going to get that payment whether you

1044
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: raising the child or not, because the government sees what

1045
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: they see it and it's a long process to undo

1046
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: this process and make them see and realize whatever. But

1047
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: I say that to say with the struggles and the

1048
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: harshess that I grew up, but not just on my parents,

1049
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: because that's just parenting, just the surroundings around me. The

1050
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: first time I seen people get shot and shoot each

1051
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: other and like that, I'm seven six. Then I grew

1052
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: up in a mixture of two very very wild places.

1053
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: My mom from Chicago, my dad from Houston, Texas. So like, yeah,

1054
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: like I just seen it. I've experienced my uncle of pim.

1055
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: My uncle's is dope fiends, my grandny is alcohol my

1056
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 2: grandmother in Houston, and my dad is one hundred percent.

1057
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: During my mama, my grandmother's from the cyber Honduras, I

1058
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: watched my grandmama died from alcohol poison it from just

1059
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: being an over alcoholic and my grandma died like four

1060
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: days before my sixth birthday type shit. So like and

1061
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: she was teaching me Spanish, like it was just so

1062
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: much shit that I saw struggle young. It matured me

1063
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: like my childhood was down there, ripped from me from

1064
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: just all the experiences that I've been through, So it

1065
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: forced me to mature early. That's another reason why I'm

1066
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: so childish and I laughed so much and I have

1067
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: so much fun as an adult and on the internet,

1068
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 2: is because like growing up to me, I never liked

1069
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: watching movies like uh Minister Society and The Nino Brown

1070
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 2: and Boys in the Hood and all that ship because

1071
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm really living at like, how can I find enjoyment

1072
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: and entertainment from black struggling and black poverty and making

1073
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: humorous moments of it when I'm I really got the

1074
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: the Ezekiel and my doorstep getting drunk. I'm really living

1075
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: around debos and Craigs and like and like this ship,

1076
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: my mama is wanted, my mama is a Felicia? How

1077
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: is that funny? How How is this like? How is

1078
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: this escape of my mind? How is this u a

1079
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: visual pleasing moment to my young mentality? When this is

1080
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: my everyday reality. That's not no fucking entertainment that's systematically

1081
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: progragramming me to continuously be what I already am living

1082
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 2: or to think that that's fun.

1083
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: You're breaking the cycle now.

1084
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: I am because because why because I want to be Goku.

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Speaker 3: Did you want to.

1086
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 4: Say this conversation is definitely yeah.

1087
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: But I'm the Internet, I'm the dumb dripping Yeah.

1088
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: Again, man, we gotta we got another interview. But we

1089
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: definitely enjoyed the conversation. But soft Father two is out now,

1090
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: and whatever you else got going on, Man, when you're

1091
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: in New York, pull up on us.

1092
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, soft Father two right now. It's a business.

1093
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: Shout out to my record, but shou out to my friends.

1094
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Breakfast Club for having me here.

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00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: You know, it's been a long time coming. Man. I

1096
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: appreciate you having me here. I appreciate me to you,

1097
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: young beautiful lady. Tonight to follow you. So just put

1098
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 2: your hands together and pray to the Saugus to say,

1099
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: I need some flight, I need some saving, I need

1100
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: the sauce. It's gonna find you and I gotta I

1101
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: gotta part. She asked me about my podcast. I got

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00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: a podcast coming to man, Sauce Me Up podcast. Follow

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00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: us on YouTube, man, Sast me Up podcast. It's coming soon. Man.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully I get some of y'all to be a guest

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Speaker 2: one day.

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Speaker 3: Saut Walker, the Breakfast Club wake

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Speaker 2: That airs up early in the morning at Breakfast Club