WEBVTT - Happy Moms Matter

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Can't Fully Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and The Black Effect. Oh Shit, be back on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to y'all another carefully reckless episode.

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<v Speaker 2>With your girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff's hilarious. I'm gonna be fixing mess y'all. What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>What's good?

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<v Speaker 1>How y'all doing out there? Checking on y'all mentals, checking

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<v Speaker 1>on y'all mentals, y'all been checking on myne lately. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be going through my dm y'all. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>let y'all know, don't ever let no influencer or no

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity make y'all feel that they don't be in MDMs,

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<v Speaker 1>because it'd be money in there. So we all be

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<v Speaker 1>in there, okay. But I just want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>second and point out the love that I always get

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<v Speaker 1>from you guys. Y'all be really like checking on me,

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<v Speaker 1>checking on my mental, making sure I'm straight, whether something

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<v Speaker 1>great to happen, whether something bad happen, whether y'all hear

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<v Speaker 1>something good or bad. Y'all just be checking on me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just love y'all so much, so I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to give y'all some appreciation real quick before I

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<v Speaker 1>fixed this girl's mess. She sent a voice noe in

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that cause y'all know I hate reading

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<v Speaker 1>y'all run on sentences and shit, they be long as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, here goes the voice note.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey dress, So I have found your podcast, maybe about

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, a month ago, you know, looking for

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<v Speaker 4>shit to listen to while I'm at work. And I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to say, I think it's great that you're

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<v Speaker 4>helping people, you know, so help me fix my mess. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot why I'm gonna try to keep it short.

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<v Speaker 4>So twenty four and I got two kids, two boys.

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<v Speaker 4>My youngest one is twelve weeks so he's fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>This has to do with they dad. Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Before I found out that I was pregnant, we had

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<v Speaker 4>literally just broke up. And then I found out that

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<v Speaker 4>I was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, why did we break up? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>This girl talk so goddamn slow. Come on, girl, People

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<v Speaker 1>trying to listen before they get out of their car

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<v Speaker 1>and go to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, you're gonna make somebody late.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically, he was super disrespectful, you know, always calling me

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<v Speaker 4>out my name, you know, like saying shit, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just just coming at my whole life. You feel me

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<v Speaker 4>like literally just trying to, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring me down. And honestly, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was getting to a point where, like I was, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna say that I was believing him, but it

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<v Speaker 4>was definitely making me feel some type of way.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just a whole lot of bullshit. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like he put his.

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<v Speaker 3>Hands on me, h uh uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he wasn't like beating the fuck out of me

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<v Speaker 2>or nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not trying to like say like that it

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<v Speaker 4>was okay or anything like that, because no.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not okay now.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I know before I played the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the story, her ask not about to say he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>being like the fuck out of me or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>He was just like hitting me a little bit, bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>was putting his hands on you. That's just all that matters.

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<v Speaker 3>And he shouldn't have been doing it, but continue, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He was doing that. And basically, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>how you be in a.

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<v Speaker 4>Relationship and you you hope that they change, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you keep trying to talk to him and you're telling

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<v Speaker 4>him that this is the problem, right, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>the problem, and you just you know, you just keep

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<v Speaker 4>putting up with it. Like I kept putting up with

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<v Speaker 4>it until I got tired.

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<v Speaker 2>So I broke up with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Then, like I said, broke up with him, found out

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<v Speaker 4>that I was pregnant with our second child, didn't get

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<v Speaker 4>back together with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Going uh so, long story short.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he ended up getting in like he got mad,

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<v Speaker 6>and it ended with him going to jail, like because

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<v Speaker 6>I call the cops and you know, like people will

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<v Speaker 6>be like, don't call the cops.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, I honestly, I didn't even want to say

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<v Speaker 4>anything about it because you know, people feel.

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<v Speaker 2>How they feel about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl fuck people, Oh my god, Jesus, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't really like it's hard when you really

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<v Speaker 2>don't have anyone else to turn to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know, like my family, like they're not

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<v Speaker 4>really the type, Like they wasn't coming through for me, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean it's cool, but you know, what else

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<v Speaker 4>was I supposed to do? Like I'm like at this point,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm scared. So basically, like at first, I was a

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<v Speaker 4>little scared to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell him, like yo, like I don't want.

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<v Speaker 4>To do this anymore because he came home and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's trying to work it out and I wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't expressing that, yo, like this isn't what I

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<v Speaker 4>want to do, because I was low key scared.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a low because like.

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<v Speaker 4>He it's when he gets mad, that's when he starts

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<v Speaker 4>acting crazy. That's when he wants to start putting his

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<v Speaker 4>hands on people and stuff like that. So I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>saying it, you know, but I was feeling it.

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<v Speaker 2>And now like.

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<v Speaker 4>I finally had the conversation with him, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I came out and I told him like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to do this anymore, like.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, of course he didn't really like it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you know, like that narcissism or whatever, like

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<v Speaker 4>he's like, well, I don't like you, like you're crazy

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<v Speaker 4>if you thought that I ever wanted to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is the thing, this is a cycle, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because I've told him that I didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>with him before, you know, like I when I remember

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<v Speaker 4>whenever I was mad or whatever, like I told him, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He, you know say what he.

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<v Speaker 4>Says, disrespect me, blah blah blah blah blah, and then

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<v Speaker 4>he's trying, like three days later, we're back on the

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<v Speaker 4>same shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're not back on the same shit. But

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<v Speaker 2>three days.

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<v Speaker 4>Later, he's acting like he didn't say anything, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like he didn't disrespect me or whatever, and I kindly

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<v Speaker 4>remind him, and he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, well, I gotta say stuff like that to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotta be like that with you because blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. And to me, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's bullshit. And basically, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>My question is because I feel like he doesn't really

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<v Speaker 4>understand that I'm at a point where I really just

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to be with him, like I want a

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<v Speaker 4>co parent, you know. And that's another thing, like he

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<v Speaker 4>uses that against me. He knows that I love my

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<v Speaker 4>kids with all my life and I want them to

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<v Speaker 4>have their father and their life, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>them to grow up in a broken home.

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<v Speaker 2>But at this point, it's like they deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>A happy mom, absolutely not a miserable mom, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do anything for them if you're not mentally okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, he tries to use my kids against me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess to just like stay around or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>use that as a crunch. I don't know, but basically,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm over it. I'm so done, like I don't I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to do it anymore. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that he understands that, Like he thinks like we just

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<v Speaker 4>had a conversation and you know, like I guess he's

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<v Speaker 4>horn it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to fuck so he's being super friendly.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I said, I reminded him of the shit

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<v Speaker 4>he said, and he you know, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Told you what is the reasons was?

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm like, we're just friends or you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>you're just my baby daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, all right, like yeah, okay, like stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing with me, okay, so stop playing, Like does that

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<v Speaker 1>affect you? Like I wonder does that like affect you?

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<v Speaker 1>Him saying that, like yeah, I ain't playing, but you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta really not be playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me let you finish, girl, cause I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>have to lay into you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, this is so long.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, girl, like for real, for real, if I

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<v Speaker 4>was to really get down and dirty and into everything,

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<v Speaker 4>like it would be a lot longer. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>keep it short. So basically, I know I keep saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>My question is how can I get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this situation?

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<v Speaker 4>Safely and with him understanding that this is not what

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like what can I do?

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<v Speaker 4>How can I get him to understand that this is

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<v Speaker 4>not for me? Like at this point we've outgrown each other.

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<v Speaker 4>What can I do? Because I don't want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like honestly, I listen to a lot of true crime podcasts,

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<v Speaker 4>and I be feeling like when I be listening some of.

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<v Speaker 1>That shit like sound like me and him, Lord Jesus, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to. Don't listen to snaps because

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of them, when the women snap, they

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<v Speaker 1>be killing the men and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, I think you just let me, let me,

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<v Speaker 3>let you finish, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I said, like everything is probably not as

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<v Speaker 4>bad as like the true crime podcast, but it's like

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<v Speaker 4>close enough, and it be having me thinking like, oh

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<v Speaker 4>my gosh, like this could literally be me one day.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's what I be thinking about, Like if I

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<v Speaker 4>don't get out, it could get worse than this. I

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<v Speaker 4>could end up dead, like and he's made threats like that,

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<v Speaker 4>like he's starting to hurt me, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 4>he even goes as far as the next person I go.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's gonna hurt them too.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just like I'm worried, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to do this no more, but I want to be safe,

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<v Speaker 4>and like by me being a little afraid, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>keeping me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's keeping me in this relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's not even a relationship because we're not together.

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<v Speaker 4>And I tell him that we're not together, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like keeping him around.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll be right back. Okay, So that is the end, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>Lord God, I'm gonna pray for you tonight and every

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<v Speaker 1>other night until I hear from you again. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely time for you to get up out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you say that you're staying there. You because

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<v Speaker 1>you well, you gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Me a couple of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you want your kids to see the whole

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<v Speaker 1>family dynamic, and you know, but let's just go one

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<v Speaker 1>by one. You wanting your kids to see the whole

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<v Speaker 1>family dynamic. You turn around and said the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>that comes right after that. But I want them to

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<v Speaker 1>see mom happy. If mom is not happy, if mom

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<v Speaker 1>is miserable, if mom is staying with their father who

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<v Speaker 1>is not only mentally abusive or emotionally abusive, but physically abusive.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously, your kids, the older they get, they see

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<v Speaker 1>that they're boys, you know what I'm saying. So then

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<v Speaker 1>that's not really a good example to set for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad hits on mom, or dad verbally abuses mom, he's

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<v Speaker 1>always mad at or he's angry at, or mom's always

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<v Speaker 1>looking sad. I remember my mom always being sad and

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<v Speaker 1>down and depressed, and you know, just shut down when

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<v Speaker 1>my dad would come home. Like do you want You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that? You don't want those story times from

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<v Speaker 1>your kids? You know you don't want you don't want that,

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<v Speaker 1>right And while I know it's probably easier said than

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<v Speaker 1>done for you to just up and leave, there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many resources that you have these days where you

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<v Speaker 1>can get help, you can't leave.

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<v Speaker 3>And then is what is his background?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What is he like?

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<v Speaker 4>Ex?

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<v Speaker 3>Military?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what will he always find you? Why haven't you

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<v Speaker 1>gone to the police? Like that's number one? Where do

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<v Speaker 1>y'all live?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they take what they take?

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<v Speaker 5>This serious?

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<v Speaker 3>This is domestic?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, I honestly do feel for you, but I need

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<v Speaker 1>for you to feel for yourself enough to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the situation. You get what I'm saying, like, and

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<v Speaker 1>then of course you and your boys will meet therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>How their father needs therapy right now, but he ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get it. But I want you to understand, you this,

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<v Speaker 1>this situation grew to be as bad as it is

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<v Speaker 1>because you allowed that for so long. You allowed this

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. And even when you call yourself

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<v Speaker 1>putting your foot down, like, oh, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, this is not for me, you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>sound confident telling me that's what you don't want. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine how unseerious he takes you. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, When you make those type of

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<v Speaker 1>threats to leave, or or when you tell him this

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<v Speaker 1>is not for me, you're not really being firm about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sound believable. You're not taking any action to

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<v Speaker 1>really show him that you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, is he a street dude? Like

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<v Speaker 3>what makes you so afreie? What has you so afraid?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I also heard you say you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else to turn to, So you don't have any family,

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<v Speaker 1>no friends, nobody, a best friend, a cousin like uncles.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't your dad, You don't have any body that

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<v Speaker 1>can help.

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<v Speaker 3>You or where you can turn. You need to get

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<v Speaker 3>a restraining order. You'll need to do that. You need

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<v Speaker 3>to call the police.

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<v Speaker 5>Kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm just fixed my mess all day.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, honey, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>come get you physically myself. I wish I fucking could,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is this is horrible. I really would love

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<v Speaker 1>for you to keep me updated, definitely, Like where the

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<v Speaker 1>hell did you meet this nigga? This is weird as hell?

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<v Speaker 1>And when did you start seeing signs of this? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>cause y'all got two kids together? If I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I thought you said, y'all got two kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have one child. Y'all just had a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's gonna be very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of him, but you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>go through the courts to handle this shit. But when

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<v Speaker 1>did you know, Like when did the red flags come

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<v Speaker 1>for this? You've taken this for a long time. You

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<v Speaker 1>decided to have another baby with him after you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>how he was or did he get like this after

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<v Speaker 1>you were with child?

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<v Speaker 3>With the second baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to know, and I need to know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're okay as well, and that you're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>the necessary steps to make sure you're okay. Cause this

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<v Speaker 1>shit ain't cool, Mama, I guarantee you it's not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even like hearing this about women, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you letting me into your life enough to even

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to advise you in any type of way

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<v Speaker 1>because these days, you know, all days, but especially these days,

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<v Speaker 1>women do need to stick together. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>people say, women definitely got to stick together. So check

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<v Speaker 1>in with me, mamm geez, y'all, we got another voice note, Hey.

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<v Speaker 7>Jess, good morning, or at least it's morning here for me.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what time it will be when you

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<v Speaker 5>listen to this or if you listen to.

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<v Speaker 7>This, but I wanted to first off, thank you for

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<v Speaker 7>your dedication and fixing people's mess even when they must

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<v Speaker 7>be feel good, honey.

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<v Speaker 5>But thank you for all that you do.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm just gonna get right into it and drop

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<v Speaker 7>my lilw mess off in your lap. Okay, So, my

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<v Speaker 7>husband and I are having a hard time seeing eye

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<v Speaker 7>to eye with wanting to expand our family and have another.

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<v Speaker 7>So a little backstory. We've been together for ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>We currently have a preschool aged child after our son.

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<v Speaker 7>Initially, my husband said he wanted no more kids, like

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<v Speaker 7>want and done, and he was pretty firm on that, like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, We've had a few conversations and he's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 7>I want no more.

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<v Speaker 5>I want no more x y Z okay.

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<v Speaker 7>So I've always wanted two children at the least. My

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<v Speaker 7>thinking has always been having one kid it's just selfish,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, like if something happened to that kid's parents,

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<v Speaker 7>no one else understands what that kid is going through

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<v Speaker 7>but a sibling, you know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 5>You could have cousins, this person, this.

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<v Speaker 7>That, and the third to be there for you, but

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<v Speaker 7>no one really understands that pain of losing a parent

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<v Speaker 7>other than your sibling. And furthermore, I just felt like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, having just one kid, I don't know, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Boring, Like damn giveing a friend apartment a friend like

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<v Speaker 5>have you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, maybe I won't even like each other here.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but that has always been my thinking.

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<v Speaker 7>So I've always been said, like, I want at least

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<v Speaker 7>two children. Obviously, I can't pick the gender, but I've

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<v Speaker 7>always wanted at least a boy and a girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so let me get back to it.

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<v Speaker 7>Because I'm just taking you through my little thinking and everything.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>So basically, like I say, he was pretty consistent with

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<v Speaker 7>saying he doesn't want anymore, he's wan and done, and

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<v Speaker 7>I basically tell him, and I know, before you check me,

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<v Speaker 7>I know this is wrong the way I went about it.

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<v Speaker 7>I know it's selfish. I know you don't do these

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<v Speaker 7>type of things, but I did tell him, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I want another kid, and if you're stuck on not

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<v Speaker 7>expanding our family, then maybe we should reevaluate our relationship

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<v Speaker 7>because this is non negotiable for me. And I just

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<v Speaker 7>want to also like add a little more context here,

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<v Speaker 7>Like I know how selfish that sounds, but throughout my life,

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<v Speaker 7>I've sacrificed so much for other people, like so much

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<v Speaker 7>for other people's happiness, so much, given my last so

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<v Speaker 7>that this person can have, you know, whatever it is

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<v Speaker 7>they need. And I just felt like in this particular moment,

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<v Speaker 7>or in this particular situation, rather, this was something that

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<v Speaker 7>I just wasn't willing to, you know, be flexible with,

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<v Speaker 7>like it means. So it meant so much to me

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<v Speaker 7>to have at least two kids. Okay, so let me

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<v Speaker 7>get back to it. So he handed up agreeing to

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<v Speaker 7>one and a second child, and then a few years

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<v Speaker 7>later I got pregnant again. But with that pregnancy, it

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<v Speaker 7>just felt off, like it just always fell off, not right,

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<v Speaker 7>just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It just didn't feel the same.

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<v Speaker 7>And I know every pregnancy is not the same, but something,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, your instincts, something just wasn't right with this one.

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<v Speaker 5>But he was excited, and I.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually feel like I was very excited my first pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 7>I felt like he was whatever, like, ir we having

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<v Speaker 7>a kid, cool, you know, but that's also his personality.

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<v Speaker 7>But that the second time around, I felt like he.

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<v Speaker 5>Was like excited and I wasn't. Like, wait, dude, the

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<v Speaker 5>table's fucking turned. Yeah. Anyways, we ended up losing a baby.

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<v Speaker 7>So this is where things take a little complete term.

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<v Speaker 5>Honey.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, So I'm at a place now I no longer

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<v Speaker 7>want another kid.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not interested. I'm just over it.

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<v Speaker 7>Like our son is only getting older and I don't

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<v Speaker 7>necessarily want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Start over, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, don't get me wrong, I love babies. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>I love children.

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<v Speaker 7>I love babies, I work with kids. I want to

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<v Speaker 7>have my own day care.

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<v Speaker 5>I love kids, but I just don't want anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if it's because like we're in our

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<v Speaker 7>thirties and I just want to travel, I want to build,

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<v Speaker 7>I want to start a business, and I just I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, or I also feel like I never got

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<v Speaker 7>back into me after No, I'm not even gonna say

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<v Speaker 7>after having my son, because even before my son, I

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<v Speaker 7>felt like I never I kind of fell out of

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<v Speaker 7>being me. I started gaining weight, you know, happy weight,

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<v Speaker 7>but don't get.

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<v Speaker 5>Too happy shit.

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<v Speaker 7>But I started my happy weight and then I paired

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<v Speaker 7>it with babyweight.

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<v Speaker 5>I never got rid of that.

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<v Speaker 7>So I feel like losing the second you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>second pregnancy, not being successful. I just feel like now

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to focus on me. I want to

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<v Speaker 7>focus on us. I want to focus on the y'all

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<v Speaker 7>we do have. I want to travel, I want to build,

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<v Speaker 7>I want to start a business, and I just want

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<v Speaker 7>to make money moves.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. But each time.

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<v Speaker 7>He brings up trying for another child, I just expressed

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<v Speaker 7>to him that I don't want to and I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 7>And I know it's my body and ultimately my choice,

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<v Speaker 7>but I don't want to approach that with him, like

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<v Speaker 7>this is a marriage. You know, this is a marriage.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to be like this is my body.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to So anyways, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 7>Like he listened to me, he hurt me out, changed

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<v Speaker 7>his mind when I basically gave him my ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 5>But now I'm not willing to change my mind. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's not.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I'm fearful that he's going to give me an ultimatum,

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<v Speaker 7>Like all right, well look check it.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't want another kid, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not who he is, that's not how he rolled.

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<v Speaker 7>He not liked that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's me. I'm like that, but I'm changing my ways.

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<v Speaker 7>But anyways, I don't know, Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 7>just have another kid just because he wants one, and

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<v Speaker 7>then I end up presenting him.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to resent the baby. I can never

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<v Speaker 5>resent a child. I could never. I love I already

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<v Speaker 5>said this already, but I love children.

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<v Speaker 7>But maybe I will end up presenting him like but

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<v Speaker 7>you may no, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 5>Like no, I've said like that, you sound stupid, but

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't want another kid. Like I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a great mom, and I.

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<v Speaker 7>Think maybe like him, seeing sometimes when I interact with kids,

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<v Speaker 7>even in public, like I think it's like something in

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<v Speaker 7>him that's like, oh my gosh, like she's.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn near born to be a mom.

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<v Speaker 7>And then like I don't know if it's also paired

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<v Speaker 7>with the fact that he was so excited for that

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<v Speaker 7>second child and then it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, now he's really really eager to fill that

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<v Speaker 8>void because before we got pregnant with the second kid,

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<v Speaker 8>it's not like he was excited to get pregnant, you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know what I mean, Like it just happened and we's

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<v Speaker 7>like cool, and I'm like, yes, I think this is

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<v Speaker 7>my girl. But then, like I said, like stuff started

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<v Speaker 7>happening and I'm like, this pregnicy just feeling strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up, hold up, I know this shit getting good.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love me, you'll listen.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyways, I don't know, though, I just I don't want

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<v Speaker 7>another kid, and like I feel like, hell, all I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm getting tongue tiny shit, But he like kind of

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<v Speaker 7>always brings it into a conversation, like you're like just easey,

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<v Speaker 7>motherfucking talking and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 5>Nigga, get somebody else to do it.

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<v Speaker 7>No, But like I don't know, do I need to

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<v Speaker 7>go to marriage counsel for this shit?

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<v Speaker 5>But what the fuck a marriage counselor gonna tell me?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want the bagbee. No, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me just hear you out. I hope I gave

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<v Speaker 5>you enough context backstory.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, we've been together ten years, right, we marry

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<v Speaker 7>already got to I don't know what else you.

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<v Speaker 5>Need to know, but.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't provide you whatever details you need to help

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<v Speaker 7>me figure the funk out.

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<v Speaker 5>What the fuck do? Anyways, thank you, and I advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Wo that girl is entertaining, Okay, And look y'all, if

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<v Speaker 1>you'll I apologize about the noise in the back. Look

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cooking right now, all right. My family's home, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my man and one of my kids. Anyway, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get back to her story, because, like she said, tables turn, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they do. She went from wanting the kids and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really sure about it, or you know, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>doubting it, but he was like, uh to he really

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<v Speaker 1>really really want wanted his second kid, and then second

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<v Speaker 1>second time.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't excited about it. That happens.

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<v Speaker 1>That definitely happens, I know, like I know couples and

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<v Speaker 1>have known couples that that it happened with.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a couple of different ways. It's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways you can go about it. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>hard one. I'm not gonna lie this. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>as easy as I thought, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>But shit, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly think one of y'all just gonna have to bite

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<v Speaker 1>the bullet. One of y'all would have to bite the bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are you willing to like? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>willing to adopt?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he like? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you want to do it? Is it that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to put your body through it? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it that you just don't have time for another child?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know you said you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to you, But is that because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to cause any more detrimancy a body.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all been together for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of history and he's broken, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from losing you guys as second child. You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>can take a lot out of a person. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that it didn't do any harm to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know, we're discussing him because he

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<v Speaker 1>still wants he wants, like you said that boyd Field, However.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not there mentally. You just don't want another child.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to know specifically what it is

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<v Speaker 1>because it always depends.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>You could give him another baby through surrogacy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could give him There are different.

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<v Speaker 3>Ways that he could still get his baby, you know, So.

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<v Speaker 1>It all depends on if you're willing to compromise, make that,

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<v Speaker 1>make that sacrifice a marriage to compromise that, Like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you willing to give your husband a baby another way?

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<v Speaker 3>Damnit?

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<v Speaker 1>That is a lot that I feel for both of

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<v Speaker 1>you because to be married and to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>on two different pages about something.

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<v Speaker 3>So serious like that, that's big.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it could take over your marriage easily because

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<v Speaker 1>that has to be on y'all, on both of y'all

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<v Speaker 1>minds every day. He's not letting up, You're not letting

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<v Speaker 1>up like what I know it has. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>cause tension and division, and you know, in the home

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<v Speaker 1>in conversations, I know it could even cause tension in

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<v Speaker 1>your sex life. You know, because you don't want another baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't trying to let him shoot the club up.

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<v Speaker 1>It could cause a lot of problems, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I totally do get it. But one of y'all have

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<v Speaker 1>to bite the bullet and still try to make each

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<v Speaker 1>other happy, the happiest that you guys could be together.

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<v Speaker 3>Check back in with me. I need I need. I

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<v Speaker 3>need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you said you left, you gave me all

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<v Speaker 1>the meat on the bone and all that shit, But

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<v Speaker 1>I still need to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to know. Are you willing to do it

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<v Speaker 3>another way? Should?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's how we move forward. Then I can give

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<v Speaker 1>you some more advice. I could fix your mess further

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<v Speaker 1>if you let me know what you're willing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why you really don't want the baby? What's

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<v Speaker 1>up is it for your body? You can't handle another

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<v Speaker 1>child right now? What exactly is it that's keeping you

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<v Speaker 1>from giving him another baby?

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<v Speaker 3>So just check back in with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and look, y'all, we just come to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of yet another episode of Carefully Reckless with your Girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Just hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'll be doing, what I'll be doing, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>fixed the mess and I'm gonna be doing it from

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<v Speaker 1>here on out, each and every Wednesday where you find

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast at y'all and then my deepest Pam voice

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