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Speaker 1: the show about Caitlin Cleric Boogie. She passed Pete Maravich
Speaker 1: for the most points scored by Division I basketball player,
Speaker 1: men's or women's. Apparently we're supposed to call her ponytail
Speaker 1: Peete now because you know bistol, pet What do you
Speaker 1: think of what's going on with her?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I think I think one, she's an incredible player. I
Speaker 3: think she's you know, doing more to her part when
Speaker 3: it comes to, you know, promoting the women's game, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, elevating their platform, all of those things. I
Speaker 3: think she's a great representation of the sport and I'm
Speaker 3: just a fan of them being able to have their
Speaker 3: platform gro regardless of how it's coming through college, through
Speaker 3: you know, the w NBA, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 3: Just these women and the sport that they love and
Speaker 3: their platform all now, you know, being on one of
Speaker 3: the biggest stages, people are now supporting it more than ever.
Speaker 3: I think it's a beautiful thing. So I'm happy for
Speaker 3: the sport. I'm happy for these ladies, and I'm a
Speaker 3: huge fan of Kaitln Cark. And like I said, I
Speaker 3: think she's doing more to her part of you know,
Speaker 3: elevating this the game for these ladies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she recently announced she is going to go
Speaker 1: to the w NBA. There's some question about what she
Speaker 1: take that fifth year of eligibility because you can make
Speaker 1: a lot of nil money. Now, boogie, do you have
Speaker 1: eligibility left? Because really we need to discuss, man.
Speaker 2: I got to go check in on that. Man.
Speaker 3: I feel like if I got the opportunity to go
Speaker 3: back to the Uk. I would definitely take it, so I.
Speaker 2: Got to check. I think you clean up.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I just save your beer off.
Speaker 2: I can look nineteen again. I see nothing like that.
Speaker 1: Boger here on Tuesday morning, less than twelve hours after
Speaker 1: the Lakers win over the Thunder and Okay See came
Speaker 1: into the game as the top seed in the West.
Speaker 1: LA is now three and one against Oklahoma City. For
Speaker 1: this season, they're seven and three in their last ten games.
Speaker 1: And here's what Anthony Davis had to say after last night.
Speaker 1: He said, quote, we don't really care what seed we're in.
Speaker 1: We proved it last year. It doesn't matter. It's just
Speaker 1: about getting in and tackling each opponent from there. Uh
Speaker 1: So that's all and good, And certainly they look like
Speaker 1: they'd be pretty strong in a series against saying Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, the other big game the Lakers
Speaker 1: had the past few days was yet another loss to
Speaker 1: the Nuggets. So I guess my question to you, boog is,
Speaker 1: if you look at the Western Conference standings, is any right?
Speaker 1: I mean, could they just beat anyone? Are you confident
Speaker 1: that the Lakers, if they get in, they could get
Speaker 1: to the finals or do you feel like that might
Speaker 1: be an overstatement for medi.
Speaker 3: I think that's spot on, and I think that's why
Speaker 3: the Lakers get treated the way they do in the
Speaker 3: aspect of, yeah, on paper and then the standings, they aren't,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the better teams in the league.
Speaker 3: But based off their foundation and Anthony Davis and Lebron
Speaker 3: James and just their history of you know, success, they'll
Speaker 3: always be in the conversation as long as they're in
Speaker 3: a spot of being able to be a playoff team.
Speaker 3: This is a playoff roster. I think the Lakers going
Speaker 3: to every off season thinking how can they become a
Speaker 3: better playoff team. Their rosters aren't ever really built for
Speaker 3: a regular season. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 3: it's never really a consistent third or fourth piece with
Speaker 3: any Lakers team outside of Anthony Davis and Lebron James
Speaker 3: to consistently carry them through a regular season. They're usually
Speaker 3: there for the support of those two guys or to
Speaker 3: enhance them with later runs in the year. So I've
Speaker 3: seen it time and time again with these Lakers teams.
Speaker 3: They usually construct their roster to match up with the
Speaker 3: Denver that's that's usually the team they struggle with the
Speaker 3: most So it makes sense. And obviously it sounds a little,
Speaker 3: you know, far off, but that's literally kind of how
Speaker 3: this team builds their roster every single season.
Speaker 2: So once they're in.
Speaker 3: The playoffs or or if they are a playoff team,
Speaker 3: they're gonna always be a threat just because of those
Speaker 3: two main guys and Lebron James and Anthony Davis. So
Speaker 3: I think everything else will kind of take care of himself.
Speaker 3: So in that statement, absolutely, I mean.
Speaker 1: If you look at the standings right now and in
Speaker 1: the West, they change every day, it feels like, but
Speaker 1: Lakers are sitting in ninth, so they would still be
Speaker 1: a playing team. And if the season ended today, you know,
Speaker 1: if they made it at the plan, they would face
Speaker 1: you know, the timber Wolves or the Oklahoma City Thunder,
Speaker 1: depending on where they ended up after the plan. You know, they,
Speaker 1: as I said, they've been beating Oklahoma City. They have
Speaker 1: a big game against the Wolves coming up. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think they played them twice. Still on the schedule
Speaker 1: Denver though, I mean, you know, I've been on Denver
Speaker 1: all year. I'm still someone's got to beat them before.
Speaker 1: I'm not picking them this year, and no one's no
Speaker 1: one big has been beating them. I mean they have
Speaker 1: been since the All Star break. They put their foot
Speaker 1: on the gas. They were clearly a little bit closet
Speaker 1: before then, and there was a little bit of a
Speaker 1: you know, Denver playing with its food aspect to that
Speaker 1: Lakers game. I mean, it certainly was very close, and
Speaker 1: the Lakers made some runs and it looked like, man,
Speaker 1: they could finally beat them, because I think including the playoffs,
Speaker 1: it's been like this was Denver's eighth win in a
Speaker 1: row or something like that, and the LA fans were like,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is great, and then last few
Speaker 1: minutes it was just like, yeah, you know, okay, we're
Speaker 1: done here, We're done messing around. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think that a young team like Oklahoma City, you know,
Speaker 1: we're we all say the same thing, right, The inexperience
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you know, is hard to overcome and
Speaker 1: could come out to haunt them. But I just I'm
Speaker 1: still all in on Dinvor, So I don't know. We'll see,
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there. Yeah, I want to switch
Speaker 1: to I want to switch to the East because we
Speaker 1: also have another team that's put its foot on the
Speaker 1: gas since the All Star break. The Bucks have not
Speaker 1: lost people since coming back from All Stars, six straight wins,
Speaker 1: including last night a comeback win over the Clippers. No
Speaker 1: Janna sent it to Compo in that game. No Chris Middleton.
Speaker 1: In that game. The Clips were up by fifteen late
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Dame poured it in forty one point.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing. Bobby Porters had a big game twenty
Speaker 1: eight points, sixteen rebounds. We don't need to talk right
Speaker 1: now about the Clippers, but they've had some They've coughed
Speaker 1: up some big, big, big games where they've had big
Speaker 1: leads lately. So that's something to think about when you
Speaker 1: look at the West standings. But let's stick with the Bucks. Oh,
Speaker 1: what has impressed you most about the Bucks during this
Speaker 1: stretch because Doc has come in and turned things around
Speaker 1: like you said he would.
Speaker 3: Well, Well, one, I feel the Bucks have been treated
Speaker 3: unfairly this Seve. And the reason I say that, I
Speaker 3: actually think they deserve more credit than they've received.
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is.
Speaker 3: One as much change that's been going on with this
Speaker 3: Bucks organization, they've never been less than in my knowledge
Speaker 3: of my knowledge a three seed in the East, which
Speaker 3: is pretty damn impressive. With as much new moving parts
Speaker 3: this team has had, you know, going on in season.
Speaker 3: They've had a new coach, they have a they've had
Speaker 3: ownership change, they brought in another franchise piece in Damian Lillard.
Speaker 3: I just don't think they get enough credit for, you know,
Speaker 3: how they've kept things afloat amongst all this change, the
Speaker 3: huge new moving parts that they've had with this team
Speaker 3: and this franchise, I think they've done a pretty good
Speaker 3: job with you know, just keeping things afloat.
Speaker 2: They are still a threat in the East.
Speaker 3: Uh they are now starting to you know, find that groove,
Speaker 3: which is you know, great for them. Another thing I
Speaker 3: don't think it's enough credit is the Patrick Beverley effect.
Speaker 3: I've literally seen this guy, you know, put batteries and
Speaker 3: guys back to the point where they're talking out the
Speaker 3: side of their neck and they they're a believer or
Speaker 3: in character of being something that they're completely not. And
Speaker 3: that's totally fine. But that's the Patrick Beverley effect. I
Speaker 3: saw the Minnesota. I've seen it in many places that
Speaker 3: you know, this guy's been so I know that energy,
Speaker 3: that leadership, that voice in the locker room is only
Speaker 3: going to increase his team. So you know, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously Pat doesn't get the credit that he you know,
Speaker 3: deserves when it comes to you know, performing on the
Speaker 3: cord or the numbers aren't his flashy, but I put
Speaker 3: him in the category you know, of a Dremond where
Speaker 3: and obviously the accolades don't match up, but as far
Speaker 3: as you.
Speaker 1: Know, the fat skill level might not match up, but
Speaker 1: the emotion does, right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and in the impact he has on games that
Speaker 3: don't show up on paper like, it's a big effect.
Speaker 3: So I think the combination of all these things and
Speaker 3: just simply you know, they're now finding their stride. The
Speaker 3: system is now making sense with Doc, They're now starting
Speaker 3: to slowly get on the same page.
Speaker 2: And these are the effects of that.
Speaker 3: So I think this team only improved towards the end
Speaker 3: of the year, and like I said, they are still
Speaker 3: very much a threat in the ease.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, first of all, they also got Jay
Speaker 1: crowder back, who's another energy guy, right, So I think
Speaker 1: your point on Patrick Beverly is is totally true. The defense, though,
Speaker 1: has turned to and the idea was how can the
Speaker 1: Bucks improve their defense? They can't you go out and
Speaker 1: trade for anyone else. They already made their big trade.
Speaker 1: They were hamstrung. Clearly, defensive strategy was a big part
Speaker 1: of what was going on, and Doc has adjusted the
Speaker 1: defense for the opponent in a way that Griff wasn't
Speaker 1: really doing. The Bucks have held teams under one hundred
Speaker 1: points four times in seven games. They played forty three
Speaker 1: games under Adrian Griffin and only did that once, so
Speaker 1: that is a pretty stark set of numbers. In fact,
Speaker 1: they had the number twenty two defense in the league
Speaker 1: under Adrian Griffin. In just a short amount of time
Speaker 1: that Doc has been there, they're all the way up
Speaker 1: to number six. So that is just a huge, huge turnaround.
Speaker 1: And when we get to the playoffs, that is obviously
Speaker 1: going to be so important. And I think when they
Speaker 1: made the move to get rid of Griff, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it's very tough to make a coaching change like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Adrian Griffin deserved to sort of be
Speaker 1: dismissed in the middle of his first season the way
Speaker 1: it happened. However, the move for the playoffs right the
Speaker 1: move was, hey, we know we have a great record.
Speaker 1: I think at the time they were number two in
Speaker 1: the East, and it was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: But the point was you could look at that team
Speaker 1: and look at their defense and say this isn't gonna
Speaker 1: cut it in the postseason. And obviously, when you have
Speaker 1: Janna sentence Kupo, that is the standard. So I think
Speaker 1: that the fact that they've beaten the Nuggets under dock,
Speaker 1: they've beaten the Timberwolves under dock. You know, you look
Speaker 1: at how they have progressed against big teams, you see
Speaker 1: why they made the change. And this is all without
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton. He has not played in the last eleven games.
Speaker 1: He has that ankle injury. We don't know when he's
Speaker 1: going to come back. And I guess the question too
Speaker 1: a little bit is the road ahead for them, because
Speaker 1: they do have a very tough remaining schedule. Their next
Speaker 1: seven games. They're going to have the Warriors, They're going
Speaker 1: to have the Lakers, they're going to have the Clippers, Sacramento, Philadelphia, Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and then a huge game against Boston. So I don't
Speaker 1: know where are you on the on the Bucks chances
Speaker 1: because as you look at that Boston game, that's the
Speaker 1: one that's like looming on the schedule. So crazy.
Speaker 3: I can see them having a you know, a successful
Speaker 3: stretch when it comes to these teams that they're going
Speaker 3: to have, you know, later on. But obviously the Boston
Speaker 3: Boston has been a favorite, you know, for the most
Speaker 3: part the entire year. I still think they're the favorite.
Speaker 3: That Boston team is just so well constructed. You know,
Speaker 3: they had a plan in the offseason. They came together perfectly,
Speaker 3: and it hasn't been really much changed to that Boston team.
Speaker 3: They've been consistent, they've been and it's weird to say,
Speaker 3: with them having the best record in the NBA. For
Speaker 3: some reason, this team has kind of been under the
Speaker 3: radar as much. Even though they're a favorite, they're still
Speaker 3: kind of full none of the radar, and that's and
Speaker 3: it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's like just skepticism from some playoffs,
Speaker 1: you know, problems that they've had. I think people kind
Speaker 1: of feel like, yeah, we've been here before with the Celtics.
Speaker 1: We know that they've been good in the regular season,
Speaker 1: and then they've just had a few notable playoff performances. Obviously,
Speaker 1: that Golden State Finals was super winnable. Losing to the
Speaker 1: Heat the way they did, they clearly came in as
Speaker 1: the better team, and the way they lost that series,
Speaker 1: and the way Jason Tatum struggled throughout that series even
Speaker 1: before his injury, I think people just there's some skepticism
Speaker 1: about Boston, but there shouldn't be because, as you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're rocking.
Speaker 3: This team looks well. If it's if there's ever been
Speaker 3: a year, I think this is the year for this
Speaker 3: Celtics team. They look like a well war machine. I
Speaker 3: don't see a team that even comes closer to their talent.
Speaker 3: But to get back on topic, when it comes to
Speaker 3: this Bucks team, they have every chance of you know,
Speaker 3: being successful in this stretch. I think they'll only continue
Speaker 3: to improve with you know, this closing stretch of the season,
Speaker 3: and I think that's perfect time and they want to
Speaker 3: go in with some momentum. They want to go in
Speaker 3: with some confidence, and the biggest thing, they all want
Speaker 3: to go in on the same page as far as
Speaker 3: being on the same page as the coaching staff, the
Speaker 3: coaching stuff, being on the same page as the players,
Speaker 3: the system being you know, it's Bible, everybody knows the system.
Speaker 3: Everything's flowing. So I think this is kind of perfect
Speaker 3: time and for this team everything will be kind of
Speaker 3: semented with this group and they can go into the
Speaker 3: playoffs with some momentum. And like I said, they are
Speaker 3: still very much a threat in the East. They have
Speaker 3: the talent to do it. They have a champion in Giannis,
Speaker 3: they have a guy that's hungry for a championship in
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard, so they very much have a chance.
Speaker 1: Well, look, it is interesting if you think about who's
Speaker 1: going to end up where. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers comes into Boston and beats the Celtics in
Speaker 1: a playoff series, that's going to be a whole nother scene.
Speaker 1: But right now, Boston looks so good. They've had three
Speaker 1: wins this season of more than fifty points. Buggie, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like, that's an insane thing to say. They tore
Speaker 1: the Warriors into tiny little pieces. Over this past weekend.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry had a great quote after the Warriors loss
Speaker 1: by fifty two to Boston. He said, that's what we
Speaker 1: used to do to teams. It's demoralizing. And that's really
Speaker 1: interesting to think of because in some ways, this Boston
Speaker 1: team during the regular season, this is just regular season
Speaker 1: so far, is more dominant than the Warriors at the
Speaker 1: height of their dynasty. The Celtics have won eleven in
Speaker 1: a row and their point differential in those games has
Speaker 1: been by twenty two, which is better than the Warriors
Speaker 1: ever did even when they were killing teams. I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. They have the easiest remaining schedule compared
Speaker 1: to what that Bucks schedule. We just lifted off, listed off,
Speaker 1: So I don't know you were saying the Bucks, you know,
Speaker 1: definitely gonna fight the Celtics for the East is Boston though,
Speaker 1: I mean, are you ready to make your hotel reservations
Speaker 1: for Boston in the finals. I mean, do you think
Speaker 1: it's going to be a contest in the Eastern Conference finals?
Speaker 1: Or are you looking at these members for the Celtics
Speaker 1: and been like, yeah, it might be a tough go,
Speaker 1: but the Celtics are making it absolutely well.
Speaker 3: First off, I want to say, when it comes to that,
Speaker 3: that Warriors team in their prime, I'm taking them over
Speaker 3: the Celtius team.
Speaker 1: Well, you played on that.
Speaker 2: I don't give it. I don't give it. Damn what
Speaker 2: the nerds say, I don't give it.
Speaker 3: Down with the statistics, the the plus, I don't give
Speaker 3: a fuck about any of that. I'll take that Warriors
Speaker 3: team any day. Like I hate when these fucking numbers
Speaker 3: go all they're better than fuck that, Like.
Speaker 2: I'm taking that Warriors team any day.
Speaker 1: First off, right in the playoffs, that's all the champions exactly.
Speaker 3: Champions Cics team is just still trying to get to
Speaker 3: their first one. So I'll take that Warriors team regardless
Speaker 3: of what the nerds say. So that's one thing. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to uh, Boston finishing out the year,
Speaker 3: they do have, you know, one of the easier remaining schedule.
Speaker 2: I think they'll continue to just kind of float grew
Speaker 2: if the.
Speaker 3: Guys are you know, kind of having any knicks or
Speaker 3: knacks or you know, slight injuries. They also use it's
Speaker 3: time to get guys one hundred percent healthy going into
Speaker 3: the playoffs. So I think this Celtic teament is, you know,
Speaker 3: they're in a perfect place right now with just finishing
Speaker 3: out the season, going in healthy and having a clear
Speaker 3: mindset with trying to make this championship run. But when
Speaker 3: it just comes to the East, you know, on paper
Speaker 3: and you know, proof of the season right now, you
Speaker 3: can say Boston is the favorite. Like you can say that,
Speaker 3: and you can say that with confidence. But on the
Speaker 3: flip side of things, when it's a Miami Heat floating around,
Speaker 3: they're always a threat, and you can say that with
Speaker 3: confidence because it's proof in the pudding. I think the
Speaker 3: Heat will always be a threat. When you have a
Speaker 3: guy like Jimmy Butler who's notorious for kind of you know,
Speaker 3: heating up at the till end of the season, especially
Speaker 3: going into the playoffs, he becomes another player, and that's
Speaker 3: one thing you have to respect about a guy like that.
Speaker 3: When it comes to the playoffs, you want to elevate
Speaker 3: your game, and he does it time and time again,
Speaker 3: and he you know, he has a lot of unexpected runs.
Speaker 3: So the Heat are always a threat. If m B
Speaker 3: is healthy, if he's able to return, obviously that's a threat.
Speaker 3: When it comes to Philly, I think they have a
Speaker 3: great thing going there. And then when it comes to
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard and Gianni's you just can't ignore those two guys.
Speaker 3: Like if things work out the way you know they
Speaker 3: should when it comes to finishing out the season strong
Speaker 3: with that team and just finding their flow in the chemistry,
Speaker 3: they are very much a threat. But based off right
Speaker 3: now the present day, I think Paulston is the favorite.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of how I'm viewing this.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the Warriors comparison is so interesting because,
Speaker 1: as you point out, Boston hasn't done it so in
Speaker 1: terms of like, could you say they're as good a
Speaker 1: team as the Warriors in their prime? Absolutely not, Like
Speaker 1: there's no question, but you can't say that yet. It's
Speaker 1: just about that regular season dominance and sort of what
Speaker 1: we saw in the Warriors in the West at that time,
Speaker 1: where it just wasn't even a question they were the
Speaker 1: team making it to the finals. Like we all knew
Speaker 1: that at the time. It was just sort of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. And Boston looks like that right now. They
Speaker 1: look like a team where they're just winning by so much.
Speaker 1: They're winning by more than twenty points right now a game.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane. It looks like, yeah, of course
Speaker 1: you can. You can put them an in to the finals.
Speaker 1: But as you point out, like there's other teams in
Speaker 1: the East that at least have some playoff level threats,
Speaker 1: and if they do play a series against the Bucks
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference finals, Yannis is yanis the best
Speaker 1: player in that series. I mean, we always say the
Speaker 1: best player in the series is the team that's favored
Speaker 1: to win. Would you say Yanis is the best player
Speaker 1: in that series?
Speaker 2: I could see a one A, one B type situation
Speaker 2: with Tatum.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously accolade Wise, Yeah, accolade Wise is Giannis,
Speaker 3: But just on an everyday talent basis, it's a one A,
Speaker 3: one B when it comes to Giannis and Tatum.
Speaker 2: So yes, and no, you could you could say that.
Speaker 2: You could say that and you couldn't. That's that's just
Speaker 2: a hard That's that's a good question. You can never go.
Speaker 3: Into a series with Jason Tatum on the other end
Speaker 3: of it and say, yeah, the other guy's the best player, Like,
Speaker 3: that's just hard to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I can see a one one B type
Speaker 2: situation for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, this is the this is the postseason for
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum to prove it right. I mean, he is
Speaker 1: obviously an incredible, incredible talent. He is one of the
Speaker 1: top stars of this generation of NBA players. He has
Speaker 1: had some excellent playoff games. I don't want that to
Speaker 1: get lost. He's had some very very good playoff games.
Speaker 1: It's like with Chris Paul, like people forget some of
Speaker 1: the great playoff games Chris Paul played. People forget some
Speaker 1: of the great playoff games that Jason Tatum has played.
Speaker 1: But the truth is there have been big moments where
Speaker 1: he has faltered and they've been have to play from
Speaker 1: behind in series and things like that. And I think
Speaker 1: if he can pull off this season, this postseason, you know,
Speaker 1: being the star that we know that he is playing
Speaker 1: as consistently as he has all during this season, you know,
Speaker 1: if they make a run during the playoffs, if they
Speaker 1: somehow win this title, and then he goes into the summer.
Speaker 1: I think his contract is going to get signed this summer.
Speaker 1: We all know that's going to be very expensive. You know,
Speaker 1: he's going to play on Team USA this summer. That
Speaker 1: could be a gold medal. I think that this could
Speaker 1: very much be the stretch, the six month stretch that
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum sort of proves the doubters wrong. But he
Speaker 1: has to do it, so we will see if he
Speaker 1: does it again. I'm always going to pick Denver because
Speaker 1: they're the champs and they have not shown anything to
Speaker 1: say that they won't win, and Nikola Yokich has been
Speaker 1: just a stud again. But Jason Tatum has a chance
Speaker 1: to really change how people think of him. So I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready for it. I think it'd be a
Speaker 1: great Eastern Conference Finals if it's Bucks Celtics. I think
Speaker 1: the Doc factor is so much fun. I think the
Speaker 1: Tatum Jannis sort of you know, very different players, obviously
Speaker 1: different positions, but but a great comparison and could be
Speaker 1: fire Man could be really, really really good, and then
Speaker 1: the finals could be good too. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I said I was going to get back to the Clippers.
Speaker 1: I do have to say, not only have they coughed
Speaker 1: up a couple of big leads lately, Russell Westbrook is
Speaker 1: now out surgery to fixate broken hand. Obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of breaks you could just let heal, so it must
Speaker 1: have been bad if it required surgery. Now, Russ always
Speaker 1: has a quick healing timeline. You know, his superhumanness has
Speaker 1: in terms of how quick he he was at one
Speaker 1: point in his career, has always also extended to the
Speaker 1: fact that he heals really quick. But James Harden said
Speaker 1: it best. I think he said, will miss everything he
Speaker 1: brings to the game, his athleticism, his energy, his playmaking ability,
Speaker 1: his leadership. I just think it's a big deal. That
Speaker 1: that rust is out. What about you? Do you think
Speaker 1: the impact is a sixth man that he's going to
Speaker 1: be out for a stretch. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's big.
Speaker 3: It is a big thing. I agree with everything James said. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the energy, the leadership, those are contagious. Those
Speaker 3: those do you know that has more effect on the
Speaker 3: team than you know sometimes talent. So I agree with
Speaker 3: James on his statement. But also, let's not forget this
Speaker 3: Clippers team is loaded. They have so much talent. I'm
Speaker 3: a big believer in bones Holland. I had an opportunity
Speaker 3: to uh play with the kid in Denver, super super
Speaker 3: talented kid. You know, he's kind of been through the ringer,
Speaker 3: He's kind of in and out of lineups, He's been traded,
Speaker 3: So I think his mindset has shifted. I think he
Speaker 3: knows he's now learning how to carry himself. He knows
Speaker 3: how to be prepared as a pro. He's learning from
Speaker 3: a great group of guys in LA and this Clippers team.
Speaker 3: He has Hall of Fame talent in front of him
Speaker 3: to learn from. So I can I can easily see
Speaker 3: this becoming a situation where he's now you know, slid
Speaker 3: into that second unit and being that guy to help
Speaker 3: keep things to float until excuse me, until Russ comes back.
Speaker 3: So this is a big I think this can be
Speaker 3: a big opportunity for him. This is another time for
Speaker 3: him to continue to grow as a pro and as
Speaker 3: a player, and I think he this is a chance
Speaker 3: to just take advantage of his moment. Like I said,
Speaker 3: the talent is there and now the opportunity is now
Speaker 3: present himself. So I think he can step in and
Speaker 3: like I said, keep things afloat for this Clippers team.
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, moving forward, it could have an
Speaker 3: effect on this Clippers team chemistry wise. Once Rush returns, obviously,
Speaker 3: you know he has to get back in the flow
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 2: That's not easy to do.
Speaker 3: Depending on how long he's out, it could be closer
Speaker 3: to playoff time, so it could get a little, you know,
Speaker 3: funny for this team. But like I said, talent wise,
Speaker 3: they have the pieces to fill in that void. But
Speaker 3: chemistry is going to always be an issue, especially with
Speaker 3: the time and of it depends on the timing, but
Speaker 3: it could be an issue.
Speaker 1: Look, I think where they are in the standings is interesting,
Speaker 1: like in a Western Conference where the top three teams
Speaker 1: seem to trade every second. I think on whose first
Speaker 1: two seconds, who's third. The Clippers are in fourth, there's
Speaker 1: a gap between them and the third place whoever's in
Speaker 1: third place that day. There's a gap between them and
Speaker 1: fifth place, which is right now the Pelicans. So I
Speaker 1: think they've got some squishy room in the standings. They're
Speaker 1: probably not going to leap up into that top three
Speaker 1: no matter what. They're probably not going to fall into
Speaker 1: that five to six spot no matter what. And then
Speaker 1: in the West right now, because of say the Lakers
Speaker 1: getting in from the plan, the Warriors possibly getting in
Speaker 1: for the plan, being in that four spot is not
Speaker 1: the worst place to be in the first round if
Speaker 1: you're playing the four or five series. Let's say it's
Speaker 1: Clippers Pelicans the way it is right now, and by
Speaker 1: the way, No Orleans has not gotten the credit it
Speaker 1: should this season either, I think that's kind of a
Speaker 1: I mean, you played there, you know that. Sometimes the
Speaker 1: media skips over them, and I just think that what
Speaker 1: the Pelicans have done has not been noticed or talked
Speaker 1: about it now. But I will say we talked about
Speaker 1: the best player, you know, winning a playoff series. The
Speaker 1: Clippers talent is crazy, and when you look at them
Speaker 1: versus the Pels in a playoff series, anything can happen,
Speaker 1: but the Clippers would be the favorites there. So I
Speaker 1: just think that they have some cushion in terms of
Speaker 1: if you know, they lose a game or two because
Speaker 1: they don't have that energy off the bench with Russ.
Speaker 1: I like your bones Highland prediction. So I hope that
Speaker 1: it does doesn't affect them because I hate when injuries
Speaker 1: affect teams anywhere. I think they'll miss him. I think
Speaker 1: they'll miss him, but hopefully you know, it's not the thing.
Speaker 1: Injuries shouldn't be the thing that changes a team season.
Speaker 1: So the Clippers are interesting right now, so I want
Speaker 1: to see them continue to be interesting. We'll see, all right, Buggy,
Speaker 1: we got to get to one of my topics. I've
Speaker 1: been beating the drum on all season, and I apologize
Speaker 1: you had to be at the other end of this
Speaker 1: over and over, but I know you agree with me,
Speaker 1: so that that's something. The sixty five game rule, Man,
Speaker 1: it is still bothering me. Donovan Mitchell is the latest
Speaker 1: person we got to talk about. He is a chance
Speaker 1: to miss out on all NBA. He is now out
Speaker 1: for quote, at least the next three games could be longer.
Speaker 1: He has already missed I think thirteen games this season.
Speaker 1: You can only miss seventeen, so the next three would
Speaker 1: put him at sixteen, so that margin for error would
Speaker 1: be almost nothing. Tyre's Halliburton has talked about the fact,
Speaker 1: and I talked to him for a while at All
Speaker 1: Star about this that you know he's close to the
Speaker 1: cutoff now too, by the way, and he said he said,
Speaker 1: I would have played. I would have taken a game
Speaker 1: or two more off from the injury he had because
Speaker 1: he said he needed that time to heal, but he
Speaker 1: felt so much pressure to make all NBA. We know
Speaker 1: guys contract bonuses are tied into this, and it's not
Speaker 1: a little money. It's like thirty forty million dollars in
Speaker 1: some cases that these guys could lose. And Tyreus was
Speaker 1: saying to me, he said, yeah, he said, I just
Speaker 1: I don't have the lift on my shot, especially in
Speaker 1: the second half of games, because I didn't really get
Speaker 1: enough time for it to heal completely, which is not
Speaker 1: what we should be having guys do. And we know
Speaker 1: with Joelle Embiid, you know who knows if he misses
Speaker 1: as many games as we expect, if he would make
Speaker 1: All NBA anyway, just because I mean, at some point
Speaker 1: he's only played thirty four games so far. At some
Speaker 1: point that just becomes okay, not his year. But he
Speaker 1: got hurt because there was so much pressure on him
Speaker 1: to come back. And you remember the chatter that week
Speaker 1: and the whole thing about the sixty five games. Gee,
Speaker 1: he's ducking games in Denver and all the stuff. And
Speaker 1: I mean he felt this pressure to come back. He's
Speaker 1: talked about it. That's not like an assumption anyone's made.
Speaker 1: And he got hurt and the season that he was
Speaker 1: on a historic pace got wrecked. So again, Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 1: to get back to the current player that's being you know,
Speaker 1: sort of affected by this. Where are you on the
Speaker 1: fact that what if he plays sixty three games, what
Speaker 1: if he plays sixty four games, should he not make
Speaker 1: all NBA?
Speaker 3: Right, I've agree with you fromt them beginning. I think
Speaker 3: this is a bullshit rule. I'm not in disagreemance was
Speaker 3: trying to figure out a way to continue to make
Speaker 3: the game competitive. I do still feel that that's with
Speaker 3: that being a topic that we have to find a
Speaker 3: way to make our game competitive. That's bullshit. Well let's
Speaker 3: take less business out of it and put more to
Speaker 3: sport back in. I think that changes everything that we're
Speaker 3: trying to you know, do here, if you want a
Speaker 3: competitive game, let's totally off the sport and not the
Speaker 3: business and you'll get the production that you want. But
Speaker 3: back to the topic, when it comes to this, my
Speaker 3: biggest thing and my biggest like grievance, when it comes
Speaker 3: to this, it's a legacy change, and I'm just not
Speaker 3: okay with that. Guy's put in so much time to
Speaker 3: this craft and this art and gods strive to be
Speaker 3: the greatest, and it's taken away from you because you
Speaker 3: miss more than seventeen games out of an eighty two
Speaker 3: game season. Like that's fucking ridiculous, Like it really is,
Speaker 3: and I won't ever be in agreeance with it. I
Speaker 3: think they need to do. I think they need to
Speaker 3: go back to the drawing board, try to figure this
Speaker 3: thing out again.
Speaker 2: I'm even okay with it being a sixty game rule.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, sixty games compared to sixty five just
Speaker 3: makes more sense. You have a twenty game window, twenty
Speaker 3: two game window to figure out you know, injuries, time,
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. So it just makes more sense.
Speaker 3: I see, this game doesn't go without our stars, like
Speaker 3: we need our stars. And to go back to the
Speaker 3: part of our legacy when it comes to these guys
Speaker 3: careers ending and we go back to look at, you know,
Speaker 3: what they did throughout their career, and instead of them
Speaker 3: being you know, a ten time All NBA or whatever
Speaker 3: the case may be, they're now a seven because three
Speaker 3: of the seasons they play sixty four games.
Speaker 2: Like that's bullshit, Like that.
Speaker 1: Takes away Hall of Fame looks at that All NBA stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: we see Donovan Mitchell play, we know how much of
Speaker 1: a baller he is. But in twenty years people just
Speaker 1: look back at the numbers and they might say, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: this happened a couple of times. Okay, okay, and the
Speaker 1: money toune. It's not fair. I'm sorry, it's not.
Speaker 3: Yes, guys work too hard for their money to be
Speaker 3: cut short because of a game or two or whatever
Speaker 3: the case may be.
Speaker 2: So it's a lot of things in it that I
Speaker 2: just don't agree with.
Speaker 3: And like I said, the root of the problem is
Speaker 3: trying to make the game competitive again. If you want
Speaker 3: the game or the sport to be competitive, Let the
Speaker 3: sport be the sport and take less of the business out.
Speaker 3: Business is going to be business if the sport is booming,
Speaker 3: So let the sport be the sport and stop trying
Speaker 3: to put things in place or kind of simulate what
Speaker 3: you want to happen, or take less defense like that.
Speaker 2: That's not what makes this sport the sport.
Speaker 3: So I think we get back to that part and
Speaker 3: the understanding of that. I think that eliminates all the
Speaker 3: issues that we're having when it comes to just the
Speaker 3: game being competitive in today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we talked about that at the All
Speaker 1: Star Game, right, the All Star Game wasn't competitive at all. Again,
Speaker 1: but because you know, there's a lot of factors, and
Speaker 1: the players wanting to play hard is one of those factors.
Speaker 1: But part of them wanting or not wanting to play
Speaker 1: hard is that you give them fifteen sponsorship, you know,
Speaker 1: obligations in the two days leading up to the game,
Speaker 1: the game will feel like an afterthought. And you're right
Speaker 1: about the business of the league. I mean, there's been
Speaker 1: a lot put forward as important and therefore you are
Speaker 1: not stressing getting guys on the court playing competitively all
Speaker 1: the time, and that has to be looked at as
Speaker 1: much as how many guys are games missing? Games are
Speaker 1: guys missing because I look at Donovan Mitchell. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been resting like that whole load man. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: load managing. He got hurt, and he got hurt, you
Speaker 1: know in a way that he might end up at
Speaker 1: sixty three or sixty four games. And I'm a voter
Speaker 1: and I often use the third NBA All NBA Team
Speaker 1: to sort of say, okay, guys who didn't play as
Speaker 1: much because availability is important to me as a voter.
Speaker 1: So guys who were available for the whole season, guys
Speaker 1: who put it you know, we're out there and put
Speaker 1: it on the line the whole season. I am putting
Speaker 1: them up in the top two teams, and that is
Speaker 1: making a difference to me. But there are players who
Speaker 1: are clearly among the top fifteen players in the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no question about it. And maybe
Speaker 1: they played less games that year, but it's still enough.
Speaker 1: I will put them on my third All NBA team.
Speaker 1: And I'm not the only one who does this. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people other voters sho do this.
Speaker 1: And it's a way to balance out as you say
Speaker 1: that legacy stuff, that recognition stuff of saying in this
Speaker 1: year of Our Lord twenty twenty four, the idea that
Speaker 1: you know, this guy was one of the top fifteen
Speaker 1: players in the game, and I just I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: this bothers me. Thank you for humoring me again with
Speaker 1: one of these discussions, Boogie Cousins, you are my friend.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right too. Truth and a lie.
Speaker 1: I love this segment. Producer Nate and preducer Eric cooked up.
Speaker 1: We're going to do it every week. If I'm going
Speaker 1: to throw three stats at you, two of them are true,
Speaker 1: one is a lie, and I'm just going to put
Speaker 1: it out there. This one stumped me, so if it
Speaker 1: stumps you too, no shame because I was completely wrong
Speaker 1: on this one when I first talked to Nate about it.
Speaker 1: Here's the three things. See if you can do better
Speaker 1: than me. Jamar Derosan leads the league in minutes per game.
Speaker 1: That's fact one or stat one. Stat two is down
Speaker 1: in Houston. Shanng Gooon leads the league in foul that
Speaker 1: statue or in Oklahoma City SGA has the most made
Speaker 1: field goals in the NBA. Which one is a lie?
Speaker 1: It's hard, right, this one's hard.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think this is hard. I could be wrong,
Speaker 2: but I don't think this is hard. Okay, Okay, I
Speaker 2: think I think the lie is the Martyros and leads
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 1: And that's what I said. We are both wrong.
Speaker 2: That's bullshit. It's no way deep Old as leading the league.
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. So I didn't even get it
Speaker 1: right on the second time. Can you get it right now?
Speaker 1: Just with these two stats, can you pick out the lie?
Speaker 1: Is it Shangoon leading the league in fouls or SGA
Speaker 1: with the most made field goals in the league.
Speaker 2: I don't like being wrong, but I'm gonna go I
Speaker 2: think a lie. What shit?
Speaker 3: I think SGA has the most goals in the league
Speaker 3: because he's also the league and scorer in the league,
Speaker 3: and most of his scoring comes from midies mid range jumpers.
Speaker 2: Am I right or wrong? You're wrong?
Speaker 1: And by the way, I said the same, The lie
Speaker 1: is that SGA has the most made field goals. He
Speaker 1: is second. Okay, So there's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: trick question from our producers, but they got us both.
Speaker 1: He is second. Yannis has the most made field goals
Speaker 1: in the league. Wow, I know, I know, I was.
Speaker 1: I thought to murder Rosen was one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's no way, deebo, oldest ship.
Speaker 3: Then they ask kicked the Chicago right, It's no way.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: They've had a lot of injuries this year, so people
Speaker 1: who are healthy for.
Speaker 2: Plenty more minutes. So yeah, man, right, I'm proud of you,
Speaker 2: old man. I'm proud of you. Bro.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll take that bet presented by DraftKings. DraftKings
Speaker 1: has a bet that is uh, look, there's some long
Speaker 1: odds in this bet, but it is possible and it's
Speaker 1: a fun bet. So will Victor Webbin Yama have a
Speaker 1: quadruple double this season? Now, the odds, as I said,
Speaker 1: are plus forty five hundred. That means you bet a dollar,
Speaker 1: if it comes through, you get forty five backs. So
Speaker 1: just you know, do that to one hundred dollars, do
Speaker 1: that to one thousand dollars, et cetera. Here is the
Speaker 1: closest he has come so far. He had a game
Speaker 1: against Toronto where he was twenty seven fourteen, ten blocks,
Speaker 1: five assists, so if those assist numbers had gotten up,
Speaker 1: he would have made it. He had a game against
Speaker 1: the Lakers where it was twenty seven points, eight rebounds,
Speaker 1: five blocks, and five steals. That was a little further away.
Speaker 1: Will you take the bet? Would you put down your
Speaker 1: money on forty five hundred odds that he will come
Speaker 1: up with a quadruple double this season? You're dropping a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on that, Poky.
Speaker 3: No, I think he will have a quadruple double in
Speaker 3: his career. I don't think it'll happen this season, though
Speaker 3: he may have more than one. Yeah, yeah, but I
Speaker 3: don't think this season.
Speaker 2: I'm away.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wait till he's a little more season, and
Speaker 3: I'm more than confident to bet on that I'm putting.
Speaker 2: I'm putting a nice amount of money down too.
Speaker 3: I hope I'm gonna put a nice amount of money
Speaker 3: down on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if the team improves around him too.
Speaker 1: I mean I lifted listed up the stats of that
Speaker 1: one game, and the only number that was below double
Speaker 1: digits was the assist. If his teammates were better than
Speaker 1: his numbers will go up. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: factors there.
Speaker 2: Pretty young, it happens straight young to the Spurs. Please
Speaker 2: make it happen for basketball.
Speaker 1: Please, are going to have something to say about that.
Speaker 2: No, send him to the Spurs.
Speaker 3: Please, let's basketball fans want and we deserve it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the one I'm rooting for. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. All right, we are not taking
Speaker 1: the bed DraftKings. I'm sorry, but you know again, keep
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Speaker 1: get your podcast. And uh, Paul was asked, who is
Speaker 1: the best number one draft pick of the last dozen years?
Speaker 1: So just you know you can redraft. You're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna see the clip in a minute. You've got the
Speaker 1: list in front of you. Those of you at home
Speaker 1: can look the list here. Who do you think, in
Speaker 1: hindsight is the best number one overall pick at the
Speaker 1: last dozen years. Here's what pol say, the.
Speaker 4: Top number one picks in the last I said ten years,
Speaker 4: but let's do twelve years, says twenty eleven to two,
Speaker 4: thy and twenty three. Who's the best number overall number
Speaker 4: one pick overall? You got Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Bennett, Wiggins,
Speaker 4: town Simmons, Faults, Aton, Zion, Anthony Edwards, k Pablo, Victor
Speaker 4: Wimen Yama. Who y'all got the best number one picks?
Speaker 5: Going to be the best one? And who's been the
Speaker 5: best one so far? Who's who you taking number one?
Speaker 2: Number one? Who you taking?
Speaker 1: Number one?
Speaker 4: Out of all them?
Speaker 2: I would take?
Speaker 5: Out of all those people.
Speaker 2: Who would you take? I mean a D.
Speaker 5: Kyrie Killers, I'm taking I'm taking it. I'm taking Victor.
Speaker 4: Oh you taking a bit?
Speaker 2: Who are you taking? I'm number one picks.
Speaker 6: I'm taking Victor as well. Well.
Speaker 2: I think, I mean all these picks I would go with.
Speaker 2: I'll rank him.
Speaker 6: I'll go Victor, I go Victor, A D. Edwards, Kyrie,
Speaker 6: that's solid, that's solid. I'm going Victor too. And I'll
Speaker 6: tell you why. We've never seen nothing like this.
Speaker 2: First of all.
Speaker 4: I mean he said records every year. I mean not
Speaker 4: every year, but every day. With his blocks, with his
Speaker 4: scoring and rebounding. I mean, in my eyes, I think
Speaker 4: he defensive player of the year. I mean as a rookie.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we've ever seen that. I know
Speaker 4: they're not a great defensive team, but that's not on him.
Speaker 4: But you cannot score with him in the paint. He's
Speaker 4: leading the league in blocks.
Speaker 6: Can you be defensive player of the Year from the
Speaker 6: last place team in the league.
Speaker 2: No, I mean that's a new that's new. That's a
Speaker 2: good question.
Speaker 1: All right, So they're picking. Are you in on that?
Speaker 2: But I don't know?
Speaker 1: That's not and I agree with them face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: And it's the obviously we can look at Winby see
Speaker 3: what he's done this season, but it's only based on
Speaker 3: his His sample size is so small, like compared to
Speaker 3: guys that have been in the league, you know, a decade,
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis. And that's kind of more
Speaker 3: so what I'm what I'm leaning to.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about Kyrie being a champion, a
Speaker 3: one time champion. We're talking about Anthony Davis being a
Speaker 3: one time champion. We talked about these guys being Olympic
Speaker 3: gold Mellists, all Stars, all NBA, Kyrie having one of
Speaker 3: the number one sneakers in the you know, in the
Speaker 3: world when he was you know once when Yeah, and
Speaker 3: all of those things count. The impact, the marketing, all
Speaker 3: of that matters when it comes to a number one pick.
Speaker 3: So I've see when you base it off of talent
Speaker 3: and projection, we can all sit here and say Wimby, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: but based off facts and accolades and what's actually happened,
Speaker 3: I think I lean more so towards Kyrie at this point.
Speaker 3: And like I said, it's bigger than just you know,
Speaker 3: the numbers or I'm talking about the impact.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the marketing.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about being a global superstar, also being a champion,
Speaker 3: hitting one of the biggest shots ever in finals history.
Speaker 2: Like, it's a lot that comes into that.
Speaker 3: Even when it comes to Anthony Davis being a number
Speaker 3: one pick, coming off a national championship in college, going
Speaker 3: straight from that to the Olympics, then becoming an Olympic
Speaker 3: gold medalist, then going to the Lakers, helping them get
Speaker 3: their first championship in a long time. You know, since
Speaker 3: the you know Kobe Dad, It's it's not as simple
Speaker 3: as saying, you know, Winby, and I'm leaning more towards
Speaker 3: you know, Kyrie Irvin or Anthony Davis in this conversation.
Speaker 3: And it's really kind of hard to pick between those
Speaker 3: two because they've been you know, pretty similar and pretty
Speaker 3: equal when it comes to their careers.
Speaker 2: So uh, definitely not Winby.
Speaker 3: I'm going with eleven or twelve, right, So I'm going
Speaker 3: going I'm going with twenty eleven or twelve.
Speaker 2: That's that's my stands, all right.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you bring up the final shot from Kyrie.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that, but you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's that Kyrie shot and the
Speaker 1: Ray Allen shot, at least in my memory of the
Speaker 1: best shot in when it counted the most in the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals, And I think the Kyrie one would take
Speaker 1: it for me because again, that was coming back from
Speaker 1: a three to one deficit and it was against you know,
Speaker 1: what was the best team of all time in terms
Speaker 1: of regular season and all that other stuff. I Mean,
Speaker 1: I just think that that the weight of that and
Speaker 1: I was in the building for that Ray Allen shot
Speaker 1: and it was huge, but you're talking about a much
Speaker 1: different swing in the series and a much different kind
Speaker 1: of opponent. So that's a really good point. I didn't
Speaker 1: think about that. The Anthony Davis factor is huge too,
Speaker 1: because we know what he's accomplished and we know how
Speaker 1: good he is. I think Wemby. My prediction on Wemby
Speaker 1: has been that he you know again, health, we don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe his drive changes as he gets more money, although
Speaker 1: I don't think so. He's really a determined cat there.
Speaker 1: But I think Wenby will end up being in ten
Speaker 1: top ten player of all time if things go the
Speaker 1: way they're going, and then we will look back because
Speaker 1: I don't think Kyrie Irving is the top ten player
Speaker 1: of all time. I don't think Anthony Davis is going
Speaker 1: to end up as a top ten player of all
Speaker 1: time if Wenby does get there, and that is an if,
Speaker 1: I understand. But I do think that we will look
Speaker 1: back and say he was the best one of that
Speaker 1: twelve year stretch. But I agree with you certainly can't
Speaker 1: say that now, Aunt Davis, by the way. Anthony Edwards,
Speaker 1: by the way, should get his due as well, by
Speaker 1: the way, on that list, because he is such a talent.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, webin now I'm eventually is maybe my answer.
Speaker 2: And I'm not mad at that statement. I actually agree
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: I think out of all these guys, I think, you know,
Speaker 3: Wemby has the best career. I think he has all
Speaker 3: the intangibles to do so. And I think that happens
Speaker 3: quicker if they go and get Trey Young. But you
Speaker 3: know that's another topic.
Speaker 1: By the way, if they make that trade, We're gonna
Speaker 1: run back every clip of you say, and I'm sitting invoice.
Speaker 3: I'm sending my GM invoice.
Speaker 1: Do it this. By the way, all right, this next
Speaker 1: doom scroll, I love this one. This one makes me
Speaker 1: so happy. Boogie. Mike Miscala NBA VET, hard worker, journeyman,
Speaker 1: just like us boy cousins. He recently the Internet discovered
Speaker 1: that Mike Miscala has a linked In profile. Obviously, most
Speaker 1: professional basketball players do not feel the need to put
Speaker 1: their resume on the Internet. They're not applying for jobs
Speaker 1: in the same way most people on LinkedIn are. But
Speaker 1: he has done it, and by the way, he has
Speaker 1: moved around a lot. He's played for ten seasons. He's
Speaker 1: played for seven teams in those ten seasons, He's already
Speaker 1: played for three teams just this season, so I guess
Speaker 1: I see they need to update your resume. But look
Speaker 1: at basketball player, basketball player, basketball player. If you look
Speaker 1: at the profile here, I don't know. What do you
Speaker 1: think about him using LinkedIn here?
Speaker 2: Bug?
Speaker 3: I think that's a nice portfolio. Bro, I'm not mad
Speaker 3: at you. You know, get it, how you live, brag
Speaker 3: how you want.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 3: I think it's very impressive. I find nothing funny or
Speaker 3: comical about this. To sit here and be able to
Speaker 3: say I play for this many professional franchises is a
Speaker 3: beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: You know, you know. More power to him, and I
Speaker 2: think it's dope. I actually do.
Speaker 3: I don't see it being any different than anybody else
Speaker 3: bragging about their resume of portfolio.
Speaker 2: I think I think he has every right just.
Speaker 1: Saying we have basketball reference for this.
Speaker 2: Wow, go to his you could just go to his LinkedIn.
Speaker 2: It's even more simple. He's making it easier for the people,
Speaker 2: like I think he's doing. I think he's going to
Speaker 2: justice to the people. So I said, more.
Speaker 1: Power he uses it. By the way, he not only
Speaker 1: like lists his resume, he writes little things on there.
Speaker 1: He's thanked people in the organization that he just left.
Speaker 1: You know he's using it. And look, maybe when he's
Speaker 1: applying for jobs or wants to workplace his post career,
Speaker 1: because he probably will, he'll just be able to say,
Speaker 1: look at my LinkedIn page.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think that's dope. I think it's incredible.
Speaker 3: I think he's going about it the right way. Take notes, kids,
Speaker 3: take notes.
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Speaker 1: to that tree, young trade. Just same, appreciate you.
Speaker 3: I need I need my moneys, I need my hands,
Speaker 3: I need my cut take care of me.
Speaker 1: And you getting your Kentucky eligibility back. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: put that on the roster for this week.
Speaker 2: Business is booming.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmmmmmmmmm