1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: That's what he said. 4 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 3: That's what he said. The second part of the Dodgers 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: news that we're seeing, that's what he said. Quote will 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 3: come in the second portion of this second part, but 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: we'll start with Bob Nightingale's tweet on Yamamoto and Roki Sazaki. 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: So this applies to anyone rooting for whoever in the 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: WBC the World Baseball Classic, but also Dodger fans who 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: get nervous. We all remember the Edwin Diaz situation and 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: others have gotten hurt. I think Drew Smiley in the 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: one that I called in the WBC ended up getting 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: hurt or never was the same after that. But anyway, 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: Dodgers me, no, not this year, not anymore. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: The commissioners. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: Yamamoto confirmed today he's going to pitch for Team Japan 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: in the World Baseball Classic, and reports out of Japan 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: this all from Bob Nightingale, say that Roki Sazaki is 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: not going to pitch in the World Baseball Classic. Both 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: of these tidbits make complete sense to me. We might 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: as well add the Doc Roberts quote about show Hey Otani, 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: because I think these all are tied together to the 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: same WBC team and the same MLB team. Doc Roberts 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: spoke about show Hey at the winter meetings and he 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: said he hasn't talked to him yet about pitching in 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: the WBC, but he is hopeful that Otani will only 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 3: hit for Japan. I'll add to that Todd Father if 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: he calls Otani and says, hey, dude, I only want 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: you to hit, and O'tani says that's cool. I'm going 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: to do both for my country. Doc's going to say 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 3: good talk. 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: See as soon. 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: He's gonna ask for a trade, That's what it's gonna. 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: He's gonna say, thanks for back to back titles in 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: your first two years with us. 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: You do what you want. 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I'm just I was just throwing that out there that 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: if you don't want to pitch, you don't have to. 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: But if you do want to pitch, I still love you. 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 5: I think they'll have an easy communication about it, whether 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: one whether he does it or not. And I don't 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 5: think he'd be like, no, sorry, I don't I want 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 5: to pitch and do this, you can't say anything about it. 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: I think they'll have a nice dialogue about the whole thing. 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 5: And we'll see what happens. What happens if all of 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 5: a sudden they get in these games where it's they're 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 5: in the final four and all of a sudden, they 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: they're running out. 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: Of pitch and hey, Show, Hey, can you throw an 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: inning or two? I don't know. 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 5: We'll see what happens. They do they take pride in 53 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: their country, though, they they definitely do. 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: He's Doc Roberts. 55 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna pitch. He's one hundred percent gonna pitch. But 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go past the uh Edwin 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: DZ because everyone's like, oh, yeah, you know Drew Smiley, 58 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: Like you just said, Drew Smiley got hurt. Edwin Diz 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: everybody jumping around, You got her jumping around, Like, stop 60 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: blaming the WBC for injuries, like these guys are ramping 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: it up up. But here's my conspiracy theory. Because you 62 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: don't always get hurt in the moment that you're playing. 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the duration. And do you remember who won 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: the WBC and struck out Mike Trout in twenty twenty three? 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 4: Oh yes, show Hao Tani and then what happened? 66 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember what happened at the end of twenty 67 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: twenty three to show Heytani's arm with the shoulder, elbow, elbow. 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: It wasn't Tommy Johnathan it was. It was some kind 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: of internal bracing. It was UCL. So was that caused 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: by his speedy ramp up for that spring training WC 71 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: WBC moment. We'll never know, but you can't definitively tell 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: me it had no correlation. 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll say. 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, so you're fearful of that if you're 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: doing But they are thrown in spring training, Yeah, I 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: guess they're not. They're trying to ramp up to get 77 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 5: there where you need to be, and then there they're like, 78 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 5: hey man, you're going five innings. 79 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: We're trying to get eighty five. 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not they're not playing travel ball. They're 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: not going to go there and be like, oh we 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: got to the finals. We ran out of pitching. No, 83 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: this isn't you know, this isn't kids travel ball. But 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: I think I think that it is a legitimate discussion. 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: There's injury concerns, there is insurance concerns as far as 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: cash all that stuff to get these guys to play. 87 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: But hey, Yamamoto literally pitched more than everybody for the 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: longest time at the end of the season, and then 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: they say, okay, you can go pitch. If you're a 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Dodgers fan, if you're Doc Roberts, You're like, I'm the 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: biggest Yamamoto fan. Does this mean I'm losing a start 92 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: from him on the season? Especially after he had more 93 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: starts than he ever had. He blew past it. By 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: the middle of September, he already had more starts than 95 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: he ever had in his career. And then they went 96 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: to the end of October. It was a month and 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: a half of extra starts. 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: It's what the All Star break is for. That's why 99 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 4: it's called a break. 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Oh, just one, just one. 101 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 4: He'll probably be on that though. Yep. 102 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: I just think you have to be careful with the 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: Japanese superstar in trying to prevent him from representing his country. 104 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: It's a different culture. Tell me I'm wrong, krat or 105 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: top Father. The players are like, yo, I'm repping the country. 106 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: I'm doing what I'm gonna do, and you gotta just 107 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: worry about the consequences. And if anything, I think show 108 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: Hey might not pitch early in the WBC, but as expected, 109 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: they should get to the semifinals and then he's going 110 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: to be up and at him. Now, maybe it's just 111 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: a bullpen dude like we saw last time around. But 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: if you give me over under half an inning, that show, 113 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: Hey is going to pitch in the WBC. I'm smashing 114 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: the over. 115 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: I you faced Japan in the finals of the Olympics 116 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: dress I faced Japan in fourteen in the MLB All 117 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: Stars Tour, which was in the middle of November. A 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: lot of those guys season had been done, and all 119 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: those guys had kept it ramped up, just playing just 120 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: for that. Then I faced them in the qualifier in 121 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of November again in twenty nineteen. All those 122 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: dudes kept it ramped up for that. So I think it. 123 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I think Scott's spot on your spot on Scott in 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: the sense of like these guys play for their country. 125 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: It is, it means, it means more. It's like the 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: SEC it means more. 127 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: Hey, we're hitting the Giants off season to do list 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: with our friend and star of Splash Hit Territory FP. 129 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: Santangel are joining us right now. 130 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: FP. 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: Always great to see you. 132 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: Man. 133 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: The way we do this is you lay out your 134 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: three Hey, this is what the Giants need to do 135 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 3: the rest of the way here in the wintertime. And 136 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: and we'll come back at you with follow ups. 137 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 7: Well, I mean my three right now? Or how does 138 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 7: Tony Voytello fit in? 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: Is number one? 140 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 7: Number two they need to add to starting pitching. I'm 141 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 7: looking at him right here on the side. And then 142 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 7: you know, there's some players that on the current roster 143 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 7: that could could do. 144 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: A little bit better. 145 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 7: Buster always says there's more meat on the bone with 146 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 7: some of the players they have. 147 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go right to Tony fitting in, 148 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: Tony Botello fitting in, Like you gotta be careful. You're 149 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: a next big leaguer, you can't. You know, we gotta 150 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: be nice to the guys who have never played in 151 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: pro ball, have never been in a big league, you know, 152 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: big league bench to even say I was on the 153 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: bench in the big league. So you got to be careful. 154 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: So how's he got to fit in? 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 7: You know, I think he's smart, and I think you 156 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 7: got to be transparent. You guys know, more than anything 157 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 7: in today's game, it's about what the manager can do 158 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 7: for the players, Right, How could I increase your value 159 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 7: in the industry? What can I do for you, and 160 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 7: so just have that open door policy. He's saying things 161 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 7: right now like I'm overwhelmed, and you know he seems overwhelmed. 162 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 7: So it's understandable, right, all of a sudden, you're a 163 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 7: big league manager from the University of Tennessee. 164 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: But I think he's a quick learner, and there's probably 165 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: gonna be some hiccups. You guys. You know, like if 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: you've never. 167 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 7: Been in a big league at clubhouse and you haven't 168 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 7: talked to grown men. Now there's twenty six general managers 169 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 7: on every team that know everything about everything. And back 170 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 7: when we played, I feel like it was what we 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 7: could do for our manager. And when you're at the 172 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 7: University of Tennessee, whatever he says is gospel. 173 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: Right. 174 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 7: These are eighteen to nineteen year old kids, and they're 175 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 7: just like worshiping the ground he walks on. But like 176 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 7: in the big leagues, you know, we sit back and 177 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 7: we're on the plane, we're having a pop and we're 178 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 7: can you believe what happened today? 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we should do that stuff. 180 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 7: So I think there's gonna be some initial hiccups, But man, 181 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 7: what a dynamic personality. 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: I've gotten to spend some time with him, and I'm 183 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: really rooting for him. 184 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: Can a manager in this day and age really get 185 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: in the way of a postseason berth? Because I you know, 186 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't think we're looking at the NL West, But 187 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: can what you said, it's your first thing on your list, 188 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: Tony Vattello fit in. Can he get in the way 189 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: of a postseason berth? Because you have Logan Webb, you 190 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: have Robbie Ray, you have Raphael Devers in the lineup, 191 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: you have Matt Chapman's platinum glove at third, Like, can 192 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: he really get in the way? 193 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 7: I mean, if you're saying like game time decisions, I 194 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 7: don't think so. I think the only time a manager 195 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 7: ever gets in the way, and you've probably experienced this 196 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 7: is when he loses the clubhouse, right, and all of 197 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 7: a sudden, you got guys over in one corner talk, 198 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 7: and you got guys over in another corner talk, and 199 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, you know, things start to 200 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 7: go south in a hurry, and it gets ugly. So 201 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 7: I think he's gonna learn on the fly. And he's 202 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 7: got he's got Dusty Baker around him, He's got Bruce 203 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 7: bot You around him. He's got Ron Washington on the 204 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 7: staff now, so he's been insulated with some baseball royalties, 205 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 7: so if he has any questions, I mean, his president 206 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 7: of Baseball Operations is a future Hall of Fame two, 207 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 7: so he's surrounded by good people and I think he's 208 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 7: humble enough to ask questions and to learn. 209 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 5: And as we know number two here, we're talking about 210 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 5: pitching always. Everybody needs at a starter, especially this team, 211 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: talk about maybe what they're thinking about. Do they have 212 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 5: anything in the work, So have you heard anything about 213 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: getting that starting pitcher that they need? 214 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys, I'm pretty disconnected in the off season, 215 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 7: just doing the podcast, so it's not like I'm in 216 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 7: the clubhouse that I'm getting some dirt right now. I 217 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 7: know Giants fans in general, if you read the comments 218 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 7: on our episodes, they're starting to panic a little bit. 219 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 7: And I think a great addition in one of Williadomas's 220 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 7: best friends is Freddy Peralta, and I don't know who 221 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 7: you trade for him. I don't know if you sacrifice 222 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 7: Bryce Eldridge, one of the top prospects in all of 223 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 7: baseball for Freddy Peralta, who would be a rent to player, 224 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 7: because you know he has a year left on his contract, 225 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 7: you probably have to sign him to a long term deal. 226 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 7: But when you have Logan Web and Robbie ray Man, 227 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 7: it would be nice to. 228 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: A guy like that in. 229 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 7: But then you have to ask yourself, like, if we 230 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 7: do go out inside a lot of guys, are we 231 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 7: just throwing a pebble into the ocean when you compare 232 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 7: yourself to the Dodgers and what they're doing right now, and. 233 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: So, yeah, do I want to spend money because I 234 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: don't know if we can compete with. 235 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 7: The Dodgers, but we could be a playoff team and 236 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 7: then once you get in, so that's a trick. 237 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: They're in a tricky situation right now. 238 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 7: I think all the baseball is in a tricky situation 239 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 7: when you talk about what the Dodgers are. 240 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Doing, smoking like a true giant, all the Dodgers, all 241 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. The Dodgers care about the padres. They don't 242 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: care about the giants. My question is like Todd when 243 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: he goes to Texas Roadhouse and he's looking at the 244 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: stakes through the through the glass and says, I want 245 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: that one which bone has the most meat on it? 246 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: Which which player has the most meat? Left on the 247 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: bone that Buster Posey's kind of like, Hey, I'm looking 248 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: at this guy to really step up? Is it Patrick Bailey? 249 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Because of the kind of down year that he had. 250 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: It could be Patrick Bailey. 251 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 7: You know when you talk about Patrick like should be 252 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 7: a platinum glove catcher. I mean what he does behind 253 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 7: the plate is magical, the way he handles the staff. 254 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 7: I know you're gonna have the automated strike zone this 255 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 7: year and that that could a few things. But there's 256 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 7: a guy that struck out three hundred and thirty three 257 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 7: times the last three years. So for me, Patrick Bailey 258 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 7: doesn't have to hit two seventy to eighty, but just 259 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 7: like be a tough out, put the ball and play 260 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 7: a little bit more grind some at bats out there's 261 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 7: a question whether he should be a switch hitter, and 262 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 7: that's for them to decide. Jung Whu Lee's another guy, 263 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 7: by the way, jun I think he had thirteen stolen 264 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 7: base attempts last year and stole ten, And to me, 265 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: he's kind of a prototypical leadoff hitter that where if 266 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 7: he plays the game a little more aggressively, whether it's 267 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 7: taking charge in the outfield on balls in the gaps, 268 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 7: whether it's stealing bases and being more aggressive on the bases. 269 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: He doesn't bunt at all. 270 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 7: And apparently he's a really good bunner, and Itchi rows 271 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 7: his hero So when you talk about how Itchiro is 272 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 7: kind of laid the butt down and then in one 273 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 7: of the best bunters I've ever seen. So there's there's 274 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 7: more to his game. But he just played his first 275 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: full season as a major leaguer and he's facing guys 276 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: for the first time playing in ballparks he wasn't familiar with. 277 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 7: You know, he only played thirty something games his first 278 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 7: year as a Giant, So I think there's a lot 279 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 7: of meat on the bone because when he's good, they win. 280 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 7: It's like Hugo Ego kind of a thing. So that's 281 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 7: one guy in then Elliott Ramos, when you talk about, 282 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 7: you know what he did last year and in his 283 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 7: defensive problems in left field, he had confidence issues, he 284 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 7: was bobbling ground balls, he was throwing. He threw a 285 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 7: ball into left center field last year from left field 286 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 7: because he held on to it and just threw it 287 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 7: to left center field. He's a great offensive player, he's 288 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 7: a great kid. He works hard, but if he needs 289 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 7: to get better for the Giants to be better. 290 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: I'm very interested, you said. 291 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 5: Dusty Baker and Ron Washington two of my all time 292 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: favorite guys. 293 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 4: What do you expect from both them? 294 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 5: I know Ron might have a little more going on 295 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: because he's going to be closer, But at the same time, 296 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 5: is Dusty going to be there all the time? 297 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: Like? 298 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: Talk to me, do you know the ins and outs 299 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 5: of both of those guys and what their job entitles? 300 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 7: No, I Todd, I'm with you, man, those are two 301 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 7: of my favorite favorite ever. I played for Dusty and 302 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: we're still really good friends. Markay things like I don't 303 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: know what I'm doing here, I don't know my role is, 304 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 7: but I think this year it's going to be a 305 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 7: little more defined with a rookie manager. I mean, you 306 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 7: have two Hall of Fame managers and Bruce Bochi and 307 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: Dusty Baker right at your disposal. And you know Wash, 308 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 7: I mean Todd, I don't know how he influenced your career, 309 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 7: but you know, in Oakland my last year playing second base, 310 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 7: he taught me things at thirty five years old, and 311 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 7: I was like, where have. 312 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: You been all my life? 313 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 7: Just like opening up on a ball to your right 314 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 7: and backhanded it instead of like trying to work around 315 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 7: it and throwing on the run going into left field 316 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 7: away from the play. Just little things around the bag 317 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 7: and turn a double plays, you know. I mean, he's 318 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 7: he's just a joy to be around, and. 319 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: He keeps it real. 320 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 7: He's always pos He's probably the hardest working coach I've 321 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 7: ever been around. Man, he'd get you out there at 322 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 7: noon and doing all your groundball drills. And he managed 323 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 7: in the Big League. So I mean, their assembling what 324 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 7: seems to be kind of an all star staff, and 325 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 7: it makes sense with who your new manager is, having 326 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 7: those three guys around. Dusty's my all time favorite. Wash 327 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 7: is my all time favorite coach. I think, Todd and 328 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 7: you might disagree with me. I think Wash is better 329 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 7: as a coach than a manager. Not that he's a 330 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 7: bad manager, but he was born to get out there 331 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 7: and work and to coach and to teach. 332 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: All right. So you said about the starting pitching Batsuya 333 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: and my when we talk about Japanese pitchers or Japanese players, 334 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: you pretty much go down the West Coast. You're like, 335 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: I know, Seattle, Holy crap, it could be the Dodgers 336 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: padres No, they're kind of, you know, they're kind of 337 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: landlocked with their money a little bit. So the giants 338 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: fall in. There are the giants willing to go. Is 339 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: Buster Posey willing to say, yes, I would commit that 340 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: much to a starting pitcher that's not a known commodity. 341 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: I get it, he's probably going to has Yamamoto comps. 342 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: But is Buster Posey going to be able to or 343 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: be okay sticking his foot in that water just like 344 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: he kind of did with Willia Doomas. 345 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Buster Posey's fine with it because it's 346 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 7: not his money. 347 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: You have to go to Greg Johnson. 348 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 7: You got to go to Greg Johnson, the owner and 349 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 7: see if he's he's fine with it. I'm sure Buster 350 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 7: wants to go out and get him. I think he 351 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 7: got to be careful that everybody's not Yamamoto. And I've 352 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 7: watched this guy pitch on just like on highlights on YouTube, 353 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 7: and his split's dirty and his fastball is kind of 354 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 7: a short arm upshoot fastball that gets on you. 355 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: I mean, look at the numbers. Incredible. 356 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 7: The thing I like about him, you guys, is he 357 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 7: said he didn't want to be a Dodger and he 358 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 7: wants to beat the Dodgers. And I don't know if 359 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 7: that was a bargaining ploy but if he's got that 360 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 7: kind of swagger with the mullet and he wants to 361 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 7: be on a team that takes down the Dodgers, I mean, 362 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 7: what better team that designed with the But they've said 363 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 7: they're not going to sign pitchers to big contracts, and 364 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 7: that could be a bargaining employe too. We all don't 365 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 7: know what's going on right now, and you guys are players. 366 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 7: I always wonder what the players are thinking right now, 367 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 7: like what's going on? Are they all texting each other 368 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 7: in the group check going? Are we getting anybody? Are 369 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 7: we just staying at What are we doing? I always 370 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 7: go to that mode, like in the offseason, what are 371 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 7: those guys thinking right now when they're seeing all the 372 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 7: moves going on around baseball? 373 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: What's your opinion, but also the organization's opinion of the 374 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: twenty eight bat twenty eight at bats that we saw 375 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: from Bryce Eldridge last year? Is this a power hitter? 376 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: That crap? Nobody hits for power in San Francisco, but 377 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: Willie hit thirty homers and Rothie's probably gonna hit thirty 378 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: home runs for the Giants this year. So is it 379 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: something that they were fearf or they didn't know how 380 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: the twenty eight at bats was gonna go, and it 381 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: just kind of it didn't go well right out of 382 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: the gate. 383 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 7: I think it's not the numbers or the results per se. 384 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 7: It was it was how he handled those at bats. 385 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 7: And I think Buster will tell you he's gone on 386 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 7: record saying I like that he wasn't scared. And he's 387 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 7: twenty years old, man, and your first go around the 388 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 7: big leagues and he was dinged up. There is one 389 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 7: giant power hitter that the park couldn't hold. I think 390 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 7: we all know his name. And you guys like guys 391 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 7: like Schwarber come in there and they hit balls in 392 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 7: the cove and if you have pop, you have pop. 393 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 7: Like it's not so much as the ball doesn't carry there. Baseball, 394 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 7: you know, we're used to playing in like ninety degrees 395 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 7: in humidity, and when the ball's flying, it's cold a 396 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 7: lot of nights there, and it's tough. 397 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: It's tough to hit in the cold. 398 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 7: So it's more about that. But I think he's got 399 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 7: line to line pop. You watch his videos from Triple 400 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 7: A's going out to left center field, and the ball 401 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 7: does carry that way at Oracle Park, and so yeah, 402 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 7: I wouldn't judge anything off that. I think it was 403 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 7: just a kind of a recruiting trip. Hey, this is 404 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 7: what it's like. This is what the clubhouse is like. 405 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 7: This is what the planes are like, this is what 406 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 7: the charters like. These are what the hotels are like. 407 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 7: He does have like size sixteen seventeen feet and I 408 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 7: don't know how he improves his footwork around the bag. 409 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: He's kind of heavy footed, but a great kid man. 410 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 7: You talk to him, you fall in love with him 411 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 7: in two seconds, and you're rooting for him. I don't 412 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 7: know if the Giants trade him. We did a whole 413 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 7: podcast on that. Do you trade Bryce Eldridge? Not for 414 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 7: me to I think he's a forty home run guy 415 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 7: even in that ballpark. 416 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Wait, what did Buster say that he wasn't scared of 417 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: the moment? Is that what you said about when when. 418 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 7: He just like the way he handled the at bats, 419 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 7: And I'll call he was and you know, he went 420 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 7: deep into counts and foul pitches off and maybe it 421 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 7: always didn't end up in a hit, but he liked 422 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 7: his he liked how he went about it, and it's 423 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 7: hard to judge a guy in twenty eight at bats 424 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 7: and you know, had the risk thing going on and 425 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 7: he wasn't healthy. So I, yeah, I'm with you, man, 426 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 7: I would love to see more of them because I 427 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 7: don't know either. 428 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's kind of what I was going and 429 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: on that. I just wanted to make sure I got 430 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: the quote right, because don't you feel like the Giants 431 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: played him a little scared? Like he's up there, he's 432 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: up there one of the first nights. Oh left, he's going, 433 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: We're not gonna we're not gonna throw him out there. 434 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: Like if this guy is the guy and you you 435 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: know you want him to just ride on big league planes, 436 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's one thing. But like, if you're that guy, 437 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: if you're a forty home run guy, you're protecting him? 438 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that the way to go? Is that 439 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: the way you're like, hey, we're not gonna put you 440 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: in against lefties, you know, right right out the gate, 441 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna kind of move you into the 442 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: big league experience. Is that? Am I? Am? I off 443 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: on that? 444 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: No? 445 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 7: I think there was some health issues that we didn't 446 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 7: know about at the time, so that that might have 447 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 7: played into it. 448 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: But I'm with you, man. 449 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 7: I was around Bryce Harper when he was nineteen and 450 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 7: they threw him right in the fire. I was around 451 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 7: Juan Soto when he was nineteen, and he threw him 452 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 7: right in the fire. And it was there was no platoons, 453 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 7: there was no matchups. It was like, you know, throw 454 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 7: them off the end of the dock and hopefully they 455 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 7: figure it out. And I think, you know, there could 456 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 7: be another year of seasoning for Bryce Eldridge at the 457 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 7: Triple A level. 458 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 459 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 7: I guess we'll see how the risk fares in spring 460 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 7: training and you know, how he fits in with Devers 461 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 7: at first And do you want to dh a twenty 462 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 7: year old twenty one year old? Now, I guess, and 463 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 7: that's something that the organization has to decide. But I'm 464 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 7: with you, Mandy, Hey, you get your day in the sun. 465 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 7: Let's go get y up. But also, like I didn't 466 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 7: know there was health issues at the time, and I 467 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 7: was kind of seeing the same things you guys were seeing. 468 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: Pee you're the man. You get a lot more of 469 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: this on splash It Territory, which is off to a 470 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: banger beginning. I know we texted about it, but for real, 471 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: there was a need in the marketplace and this thing 472 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: just wait till the season starts will take off. But already, 473 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we're just seeing a ton of great feedback, 474 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: as you can see probably in the comments at It's 475 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: really cool. So keep doing your thing, man, this is 476 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 3: just the start. 477 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 7: Thanks you guys, Thanks for having me on. Happy holidays everybody. 478 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: Hey, we're back and so is Glazer with us the 479 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: star of Friar Territory talking all about the San Diego Padres, 480 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: and I think it'll be another interesting offseason. Aj Probler 481 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: always keeps it exciting for us, that is a fact. 482 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: He certainly lit it up during the trade deadline. Kyle, 483 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: good to see you, and I want to go right 484 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: to the names that have popped up that not only 485 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: affect the Padres, but it affects fans across the game. 486 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: We've seen names like Nick Pavetta and Jake Cronenworth pop 487 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: up in trade rumors from legit reporters. So what do 488 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: you have for us on what that could look like 489 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: and what those players could bring to the table for 490 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: other teams too. 491 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 6: Absolutely, the reason the Potters are even having these discussions 492 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 6: is because they are in a serious payroll crunch. The 493 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: Padres have said they're going to try and keep payroll 494 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: around last year's level, and look, they're exploring sale teams. 495 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: Exploring sales don't raise payroll. So with that, they only 496 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 6: have about ten to twelve million dollars to play with, 497 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: and they have to try and fill two starting rotation 498 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 6: spots and an everyday first base spot at minimum, so 499 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 6: they need to clear payroll and that's where the these 500 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 6: conversations are coming from. Jake Croninworth is owed a little 501 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: over sixty million dollars over the next five years. Nick 502 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 6: Pavetta hasn't opt out after this year, but again he's 503 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 6: going to make about nineteen million this year. So it's 504 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 6: really just going to come down to are the Padres 505 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 6: going to get the kind of trade offers that allow 506 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 6: them to fill most of their holes. They're not going 507 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 6: to do a one for one trade for Nick Poveta. 508 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 6: It would have to be a situation where they get 509 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 6: a major league ready young starter, another player who can 510 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 6: help them this year, and then they can use the 511 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 6: payroll savings to go sign another player, Jake Croninworth as well. 512 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 6: It's going to be a situation where they're going to 513 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 6: be looking for multiple pieces back, So both of them 514 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 6: are going to attract interest and have attracted interest. We 515 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 6: just have to see if ultimately the price is met 516 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 6: where it makes sense for the Padres to move them. 517 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: Who's a higher value sell now type of thing, because 518 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: we've heard Jake Croninworth ever since he signed his seven 519 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: year contract, it was like they're looking to shed, They're 520 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: looking to shed the entire seven years. And I was like, Jake. 521 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: I texted Jake, I'm like, did you sign it? Did 522 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: you sign it with Major League Baseball? Or did you 523 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: sign it with the Padres? So whose value is higher 524 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: from where I get it? Pavetta's making more this season, 525 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: but whose value is where they're going to get the 526 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: most or be able to dump more of the money 527 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: is kind of what I'm what I'm asking here. 528 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 6: There's no question Nick Pavetta is the more valuable player. 529 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 6: Teams always need frontline starting pitching, and Nick Pavetta took 530 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 6: the leap last year with the Padres. He'd always had 531 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 6: great stuff, great peripherals, but it never really worked out 532 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 6: consistently for him. We saw long stretches of he'd look 533 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 6: great for six or seven starts, and then stretches where 534 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 6: he would look terrible for six or seven starts. Last year, 535 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 6: he took the leap and was consistent pitching like a 536 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 6: frontline starter from Game one to Game one sixty two. 537 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 6: The tricky part with Nick Pavetta is he hasn't opt 538 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 6: out at the end of this year. So are team's 539 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 6: going to look at him as a pitcher that really 540 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: only has one year left on his deal because Hoole 541 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 6: realistically opt out, or are they going to look at 542 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 6: him as a pitcher who is under contract for three 543 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 6: more years and there's always the possibility that something goes 544 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 6: wrong and he stays in the deal. Whether teams view 545 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: him as a one year rental versus a pitcher who 546 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 6: does have three years left on his deal is going 547 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: to make a huge, huge, huge difference in what they're 548 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 6: willing to offer the Padres. Realistically, all things being equal, 549 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 6: he's going to bring back more, but a lot of 550 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 6: it's going to depend on how teams view him and 551 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 6: his contract. 552 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 5: Right the best player on that team is Fernando Tatist 553 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: Junior In my opinion, I think he's an absolute stud. 554 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: Have teams gone out and try and seen if there's 555 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 5: a possibility of him being moved or is he untouchable 556 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 5: right now? 557 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 6: At this point, Teams at this point in the year 558 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 6: are always having conversations and reaching out talking about any 559 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 6: number of players. Yes, teams have reached out to the 560 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 6: Padres to just kind of gauge where they're at, and 561 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 6: the Padres have been definitive, both publicly and privately. They 562 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 6: are not trading Finante Taste junior. They have no interest 563 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 6: in trading Finance Tatist junior. They have no intent to 564 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 6: trade Finante. They view him as the folkrum a round 565 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: which this entire team is built. They want him to 566 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 6: be the centerpiece of the Padres in twenty twenty six, 567 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight and beyond. At this juncture, 568 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 6: there is zero chance he gets moved. Now, we'll see 569 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 6: what happens six months from you out now, a year 570 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 6: from now, if new ownership comes in, there's all different 571 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 6: dynamics at play. But this offseason, he is not getting moved. 572 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go to somebody that did get 573 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: moved because of free agency. Robert Suarez got moved and 574 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: he signed. He signed with the Braves. What are they getting? 575 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: You watched him day in and day out. The numbers, 576 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: I feel like speak for themselves. But what are the 577 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: Braves getting? And is there a chance of some regression? 578 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: And if the Padres had the money, would they have 579 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: resigned them themselves? 580 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 6: What the Atlanta Braves are getting is a lockdown, end 581 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 6: of game reliever. Robert Sworez was one of the best 582 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 6: closers in the National League each last two years, and 583 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 6: prior to that, he was one of the best set 584 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 6: up in the National League for two years setting up 585 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 6: Josh Hater. He's someone that can fill both roles and 586 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 6: not just be good at both, but dominant and both. 587 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 6: He had a sub three ERA in both look it's 588 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 6: a fastball he can run up to one hundred and 589 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 6: one oh one, one oh two. His changeup when he 590 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 6: throws it as a really really good pitch. Ice in 591 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 6: his veins. Nothing phases him. He is everything you want 592 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 6: in a late game reliever and closer. There's a tremendous 593 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: amount of mental toughness there as well. In terms of 594 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 6: whether the Padres would have resigned him just given the 595 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: Podreis needs, and their fundamental need for years now has 596 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 6: been they need more impact on offense. Given the strength 597 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 6: of their bullpen, even without Robert Swoz, they were always 598 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 6: going to need to reallocate this money toward bringing back 599 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 6: an impact bat. So, on the one hand, you understand 600 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 6: Robert Swores is a tremendous talent who will give the 601 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 6: Atlanta Braves a lockdown end of game option in whatever 602 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 6: role they choose to use him in. Reports are will 603 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 6: be a setup man and a backup closer to start. 604 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 6: But for the Podreys, bringing him back just given their 605 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 6: other needs just just never made lot of sense. They really, 606 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 6: really really have to address the starting rotation and the 607 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 6: lineup much more than the bullpen. 608 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: You glazed over it a little bit, but he was 609 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: People think he's been a closer his entire career. The 610 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: run with the Padres, or the run where the Padres 611 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: almost made it to the World Series and lost to 612 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: the Phillies where Bryce Harper hit the home run against 613 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: him was arguably, in my opinion, statistically stuff plus all 614 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: that stuff, his best season. Did you see a difference 615 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: in Robert Suarez because he was Hey has never been 616 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: as dominant as he was that season. Is he better 617 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: in the eighth inning? There is there a difference that 618 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: you saw from when he became the setup guy to 619 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: the closer. 620 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 6: Not really. Again, he's been so good pretty much every season. 621 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 6: You're still talking about eras under three, you know, three 622 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 6: of his four seasons, you're still talking about strikeout rates. 623 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 6: You're still talking about premium stuff. It's small margins. So realistically, 624 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 6: he's someone that you feel comfortable putting in either situation. 625 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 6: And look, yes, people are going to remember him serving 626 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 6: up the home run to Bryce Harper. What they don't 627 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 6: remember is Robert Swarez throw an absolutely ridiculous change up 628 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 6: the previous pitch that Bryce Harper held up on. It 629 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 6: was incredible that Bryce Harper held up on that pitch, 630 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 6: and it's more about Bryce Harper being amazing than any 631 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 6: failures of Robert Swarez. So, Robert Swarez again, from the 632 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 6: moment he came over from Japan, has been dominant in 633 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 6: whatever role he's been asked to fill, and I expect 634 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 6: that to continue with the Braves. 635 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: We have a super chat fan question appreciated from Scott Farr. 636 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: He said, anyone are free to the Jays talking with 637 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: the Padres for a Mason Miller deal Brios and Ricky Tiedeman. 638 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: This is exactly what Toronto needs to take over for 639 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: Jeff Hoffman. Well, even if you want to entertain that, 640 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: I will step in before you've been jump in and 641 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: say that ain't gonna get it done. 642 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 6: Again. The Padres just given the situation they're in. And look, 643 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 6: aj Preller has always been most aggressive GM in baseball 644 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 6: since he took over. He is someone that will talk 645 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 6: about big packages, marquee names, tens of millions of dollars 646 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 6: changing hands like it's nothing, a lot of the kind 647 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 6: of trades that most presidents of baseball operations and gms 648 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 6: shy away from. He embraces that said, whether you're talking 649 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 6: about Mason Miller, Nick Pavetted, Jake Cronaworth, the Potters are 650 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 6: not going to trade them without getting significant value back. 651 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 6: And I'm talking multiple players who help them fill multiple 652 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 6: holes in one fell swoop. So again, while Jose Barrios 653 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: has obviously had a great career, he was also demoted 654 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: from the Blue Jay's rotation at the end of last year. 655 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 6: Ricky Tineman has tremendous stuff. He has never stayed healthy 656 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: that's not close to what would get a Mason Miller 657 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 6: trade done. It would have to be impact big leaguers 658 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 6: who are controllable and cheap right now, plus top young prospects. 659 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 660 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: I was gonna go a little bit on Jake Croninworth, 661 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 5: but you kind of hit that one perfectly. My question 662 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: to you is you look over at the other side. 663 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 5: The Dodgers just picked up Edwin Dias Padres a product. 664 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: I mean, just tell me your thoughts. And even even 665 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 5: as the guy who covers them and talks about him, 666 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 5: like you see something like that, what goes on through 667 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 5: your head? 668 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: Is it like, oh God, here we go again. 669 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 6: Look, you know my nearly you know, decade as a 670 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 6: national writer for Baseball America and continuing to cover, you know, 671 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 6: league wide. You understand that the Dodgers have tremendous financial resources. 672 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 6: They spend them wisely, which is something a lot of 673 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 6: other teams with tremendous financial resources cannot say, and they 674 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 6: draft and develop incredibly well. Again, the Dodgers have been 675 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 6: the beast of the NL West for over a decade. 676 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 6: Now you know that they are a force. You're going 677 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 6: to have to deal with them at some point if 678 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 6: you are attempting to compete in the National League. So 679 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 6: on the one hand, yes, you see them sign Edwin 680 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 6: Diaz and you go, yep, they just add another superstar. 681 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, though, that's kind of 682 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 6: the mo for them, and you just understand that's how 683 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 6: they operate. That's what you have to deal with if 684 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 6: you're a team trying to compete with them in the 685 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 6: National League. Now, it's just about trying to make your 686 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 6: roster the best it can possible be so that you 687 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 6: have a shot to maybe beat the Dodgers in a 688 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 6: short series in the playoffs. That's really where you have 689 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 6: to get them. Trying to beat them over one hundred 690 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: and sixty two game season. Look, almost no one has 691 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 6: done it in the NS since twenty thirteen. The only 692 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 6: team to do it was the Giants in twenty twenty one, 693 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 6: when the Dodgers won one hundred and six games that year. 694 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 6: So you understand that in order to take down the Dodgers, 695 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 6: it's more about building a team that can hopefully catch 696 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 6: them in a short series because doing so over one 697 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 6: sixty two Look, the facts are, no one's been able 698 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 6: to really do it consistently for over a decade. 699 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: Hey, Kyle last one, Oh, go ahead, go ahead? 700 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: Kay? 701 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: How about the manager situation Craig stamens Obviously everybody hears 702 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, Manny Machada was like, oh, we love this guy. 703 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's come out and said we love this guy. But 704 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that was kind of said about Shilt 705 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: too until Shilt was Shilt was out. So is this 706 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: more of a Okay, Craig Stamon's gonna work because he's 707 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: already worked with Aj Preller. You know, it's it's clearly 708 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: the aj Pereller effect of the drama that comes with 709 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: and you know, his constant hovering over. But this Craig 710 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: Stamon thing, is there tangible wins and improvements from a 711 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: Craig Stamen hiring. 712 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 6: So Craig Stamon and Mike Scheldt are two very very 713 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 6: different personality types. And I think it's important to point 714 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 6: out Mike Scheldt did work in the Pattery's front office 715 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 6: and working a couple different roles before taking over as manager. 716 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 6: So in terms of Craig Stammon, the pluses are he 717 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 6: is a tremendous communicator. He is someone that took on 718 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 6: a leadership role in the Pattery's clubhouse for years, especially 719 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 6: during COVID, he really was the spokesperson for the team 720 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 6: in a time of great uncertainty. He is a natural 721 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 6: leader in a lot of ways, has all the personality 722 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 6: traits you look for as well as the baseball mind. 723 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 6: At the same time, a first year manager, there are 724 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 6: going to be things that you have to learn on 725 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 6: the fly, especially when you have ever coached or managed 726 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 6: at any level of professional baseball. Mike Schultz was an 727 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 6: established manager in the big leagues who had years and 728 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 6: years and years as a coach and manager throughout the Miners. 729 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 6: He didn't have the learning curve that Craig stam is 730 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 6: going to have. So there's no question there are going 731 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 6: to be some things early on, especially that might not 732 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 6: be the smoothest just in terms of game strategy bullpen decisions. 733 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 6: But the hope is Craig Stammond, being as humble as 734 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 6: he is, as smart as he is, that he will 735 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 6: figure it out quickly enough that it doesn't hurt the 736 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 6: Padres for any considerable amount of time as they attempt 737 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 6: to make the playoffs for the fifth time in seven seasons. 738 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 3: Kyle, great insight. You know we love you. And Friar Territory. 739 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: You want to let everyone know just a little bit 740 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: more about how the team expanded. I mean, we've talked 741 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: about it a touch, but just give everyone a taste 742 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: of how big the Friar Territory team is getting. 743 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's still me, Heath Bell and Mike Cameron. We 744 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: recently added Marty Caswell, a long time radio host in 745 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 6: San Diego. She's tremendous. I encourage everyone come check it out. 746 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 6: We've got a lot to talk about. This is a 747 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 6: very fascinating team. Really they always are, but especially true 748 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 6: now just given potential impending sale. Aj Prowler still has 749 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 6: yet to sign a contract extension, first year manager and 750 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 6: Craig Scammond. Maybe some big trades. This is a great 751 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 6: time to subscribe. I encourage everyone to check it out.