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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season ten, Episode one

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Speaker 1: of Dust Daily See Guys for December eleven, two thousand

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Speaker 1: seven tea. My name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is I Miles. Don't lie to the FBI?

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Speaker 1: How was everybody? And we are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: by We're the second time the hilarious stand up and

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Speaker 1: hilarious podcast guest with one of our audience and our

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Speaker 1: favorite first time around, Caitlyn Gil. Hey mess with the

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Speaker 1: Gil You get the whole piranha. That's pretty good. Ready

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Speaker 1: to shine, Let's get the whole piranha, which she says

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Speaker 1: anytime she enters the room too. Oh man, I should

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Speaker 1: open the door. You messed with the Guiltperana. I don't

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Speaker 1: know well how popular dinner guest them. I feel like

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Speaker 1: after the second time, feels like she's broken three doors

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Speaker 1: and now he can't have me. That's one of those

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Speaker 1: jokes she push Pats I'm funny into really funny, But

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't want to invest that much, okay,

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Speaker 1: but I would actually would like to see that joke

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Speaker 1: of off over. Yeah, eventually the absurdity of it will

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Speaker 1: turn into that what's something premier search history that is

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Speaker 1: revealing about who you are? Oh man, I definitely looked

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Speaker 1: up a lot about the difference between dry skin and

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Speaker 1: flea bites, both for myself and my dog. Um again

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Speaker 1: that I'm speaking very naturally. That is the first piece

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Speaker 1: of revealing information that came into my mind to tell you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's grosser things in my search history, like

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Speaker 1: step families doing things to each other, but I just

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Speaker 1: like to explore America's fantasies anyway. Uh, yeah, both my

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Speaker 1: dog and I roach, and I was trying to determine

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Speaker 1: if it was our skin attacking us or other animals.

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Speaker 1: Did you have anything like visually to suggest like it

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Speaker 1: was still up in the air, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: flea bites are like little little red bit they are

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Speaker 1: little in red I found out when I was in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta for a couple of months, and I am allergic

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Speaker 1: biting me. Ever, so there was some cross research with

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Speaker 1: the possibility of being allergic. I just wanted to know

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Speaker 1: what my dog was a chat and then I rubbed

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Speaker 1: her with oil and now she's not anymore. Yeah, fish

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Speaker 1: oil is great for dogs. Yes, I used to vitahim

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Speaker 1: in e based oil thing. She's anyway so hot tips

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Speaker 1: Daily sit guys, listeners, got a nitchy dog? You just

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Speaker 1: rubb that ship with oil? What kind of oil you

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Speaker 1: can use? Anything? Motor oil? I mean i'd refrain, but

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Speaker 1: if you want to run right, you fill it up

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Speaker 1: with motor oil everything thousand miles followed up with palm

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Speaker 1: olive to wash it off like they do those ducks. Kitlin.

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Speaker 1: What's something that you think is overrated? Can I give

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Speaker 1: you my underrated first? Because I have a here. They're

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Speaker 1: a little bit related. Thank you for letting me shake

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Speaker 1: up your ears. If anyone shake up underrated night drives.

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Speaker 1: I just took a night drive last night. I came

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Speaker 1: back to l A from San Francisco because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be here with you for this podcast. This morning,

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Speaker 1: no traffic, no sun, beautiful moonlight. I don't have to

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Speaker 1: look at the fields on the five because there's nothing

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Speaker 1: much to look at. Not trying to insult you, Gustine,

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Speaker 1: but honestly, honey or not that pretty from the outside. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was just how I shouldn't have called out a

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Speaker 1: specific town, Gustine, I said that name because I routinely

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Speaker 1: used the gas station outside of your city. I respect you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're there. Now. They're gonna be checking

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Speaker 1: for you next time you go to on my five spot.

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Speaker 1: I just love a night drive for its speed, and people,

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Speaker 1: you know, underrated because it's like, guess, nighttime when you'd

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Speaker 1: long as you can and then you hit that that

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Speaker 1: great American highway in the nighttime, just you and truckers.

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Speaker 1: So by night drive you just mean like sort of

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Speaker 1: traveling by car at night rather because I know some

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Speaker 1: people like to just go for a drive. I'm not

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Speaker 1: one of those people. And I thought, for a second,

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Speaker 1: But I've never gone to this extent, but some people

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Speaker 1: Finally the eagerly awaited overrated sleep. Who needs it? Man?

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Speaker 1: Right now? I feel great. I definitely didn't you one

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Speaker 1: understand what the hell, lou No, No, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about this, this sleeping thing. I mean, wow, you can

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that actually works, but it's what

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Speaker 1: I've told myself that we're calling speed now yea to

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Speaker 1: percent of her b twelves on purpose this later track. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all right, let's get in format. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: take a sample of the ideas out there changing the world,

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Speaker 1: trying to take the temperature of the shared consciousness of

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Speaker 1: the human species or the nation at the very least.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do we think in the temperature

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Speaker 1: a ninety seven point eight. We're not quite at that

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Speaker 1: And the way we like to open up is by

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Speaker 1: asking our guest what something is that the zeitgeist that

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Speaker 1: the national shared consciousness has wrong? And from their experience, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm the one who thinks sleep is overrated, so maybe

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Speaker 1: don't believe me. Uh, but cocaine is perfectly healthy? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well right right? I mean, can't that just be my myth? Uh? Dill?

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Speaker 1: you can like see in other people's cars, and people

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Speaker 1: maybe this is a myth we need to talk about,

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Speaker 1: because honey, yes, yeah, that's happening. Masturbating while driving seems wild. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's way more dangerous than drawing the I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: Unin I feel it's less. I mean, maybe people assume

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Speaker 1: There is no degree of severity or intensity for your orgasm.

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Speaker 1: every orgasm, Yeah, I guess certain, man I have, Yet

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Speaker 1: Whatever you know, whatever it takes. Yeah, I just need

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Speaker 1: to It's like the cousin of Otto Erotic exactly. Thank

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Speaker 1: In the paper it was called President versus the Presidency,

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Speaker 1: primarily because of documents. I'm reading documents a lot. I

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Speaker 1: at her tips because there's buttons on her vet. Like

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Speaker 1: even in media, which seems to be like as a discussion,

425
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: is this this is only a Hollywood thing, Like Hollywood

426
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: portrays that industry as a demo sexual girl and the

427
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: reality is painfully, terrifyingly true and as scary as a

428
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: Weinstein is, and he's a fucking monster scary guy. Like

429
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Speaker 1: there are Weinstein's that like every Applebee's, Chilies, T g

430
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Speaker 1: I Friday's, and like drive in diner anywhere like it,

431
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Speaker 1: or at least eight of them. Right, Yeah, it's a

432
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: horrifying it's a in such an intense industry. There's a study.

433
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Speaker 1: I don't remember who did it or where it was,

434
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Speaker 1: but I believe that I remember it that the two

435
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: most stressful professions by just measurable stress level are like

436
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: surgeon and server. Those are the two that the the

437
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: how hard you work in the restaurant industry goes so

438
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: underappreciated that almost how hard you suck goes under appreciate.

439
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: Like nobody sees it. Nobody sees how hard you're working.

440
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: Nobody sees, uh, how dark and kind of gross it

441
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: can get. It's just you know, I guess tip next

442
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: time you go out, because somebody got her butt padded

443
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: or worse to bring you that ranch stressing. Well, yeah,

444
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: it seems like they're even some of the other articles

445
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: about sort of the harassment in the industry too. It's

446
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: like it's also kind of a regular story for servers

447
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: to be trapped in the walk in constantly. So yeah,

448
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what how like this, Like you said,

449
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: if in the beginning we thought it was like limited

450
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Speaker 1: to Hollywood, and I guess, but Holly is some extension

451
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: of that. But we'll see. Like that, I hope that

452
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: this creates an actual sea change or cultural shift in

453
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: that industry, not only not just Hollywood, but Hollywood is

454
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Speaker 1: reflecting what's happening in the rest of the world. So

455
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: the same way, I mean, as a person in comedy,

456
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: this is a crazy thing to keep looking at. But

457
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: the same way, there was a machine around Louisi k

458
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: to make it okay for him to jerk off in

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Speaker 1: front of women and then lie about it. That is

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Speaker 1: a reflection of the machine. The key your garbage shift

461
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: leader there at your garbage restaurant job, even though he's

462
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: done creepy ship to every girl on staff, the same

463
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: machine is working. Don't complain. It's easier if you don't complain,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where a different shirt. He hate wear green.

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00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: He hates green like that. Hollywood didn't invent that. It

466
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: didn't come from here. That was the world. And then

467
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: Hollywood use that model. And there's too much light shining

468
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: here and the show biz and it shined on some

469
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: darkness and that darkness is revealing that it wasn't. It's everywhere.

470
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: Everywhere is darkness. And I guess the question is will

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Speaker 1: people in other other industries have a mechanism for reporting

472
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: these people, because the reason that this sort of sea

473
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Speaker 1: change is happening in Hollywood is because they're able to,

474
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, get media attention because these are famous people

475
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: behaving like monsters. If it's your shift manager at Applebee's,

476
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: then uh, you know who is going to give enough

477
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: of the shunion report? Oh wait wait wait no, no, yeah,

478
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: more gravy? Those were those are bad for democracy? Uh?

479
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: And then uh, there was a press conference this morning

480
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: where three of Donald Trump's accusers. Have you heard about this?

481
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the president has been accused of inappropriate sexual behavior. Uh,

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00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: sexual behavior he could engage, it would be considerate, So

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Speaker 1: Rachel Crooks, Uh, Samantha Holvey and Jessica Leeds are three

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00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: of Trump's accusers. Rachel Crooks, who was forcibly kissed by

485
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Speaker 1: Trump at Trump Tower when she worked as a receptionist.

486
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: Samantha Holvey was a former Miss USA contestant who says, uh,

487
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: the President walked into the dressing room to inspect the women,

488
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: not just lie. So you're there to expect the A

489
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: C unit to say anything else. A C unit can

490
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: mean whatever you want it to mean. Just you could

491
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Speaker 1: even say likes in here where I left him in

492
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Speaker 1: here and anything. And then Jessica Leeds, who said Trump

493
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: groped and kissed her on an airplane. Uh, oh, you

494
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: can't get out of an airplane. And then right, uh yeah,

495
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: it's reminiscent of the scene in Star Wars where Han

496
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Solo like has Princess let trapped against the like where

497
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: are you gonna go? Huh um. Uh. So we actually

498
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: have a clip from so we want to every time

499
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: we bring up Menghazi, just uh, you know, play a

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00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: clip of what exactly Trump is being accused of. And

501
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: we have audio of the Apprentice star Summer Servos who

502
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: so she met with Trump once in Trump Tower and

503
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: he kissed her and she was weirded out by that,

504
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: but was like, you know, celebrities are strange. He, you know,

505
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: was doing it almost as a greeting, and then he

506
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: invited her to a meal in his hotel room, which

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00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: we now, I don't know post meng Ghazi that that

508
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: is a red flag. But she accepted the invitation. She

509
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: thought they were just going to meet in his room

510
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: and then go out to dinner, but obviously he had

511
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: other ideas. I was standing in the entryway. To my

512
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: left was a bedroom and I saw Mr Trump's close

513
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: on the bed. I did not see him, but he

514
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: greeted me with hello in a singsong voice. It sounded

515
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: like hello. I thought the mistake had been made, and

516
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: Mr Trump thought he was speaking to someone who was

517
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: more familiar with I walked further into the living room,

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Speaker 1: away from the bedroom, and sat down. I waited for

519
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes until Mr Trump emerged. He had his

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00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: suit on. I stood up and he came to me

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00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: and started kissing me, open mouthed. As he was pulling

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00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: me towards him. I walked away and I sat down

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Speaker 1: in a chair. He was on a low seat across

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00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: from me, and I made an attempt at conversation. He

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00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: then asked me to sit next to him. I complied.

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00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: He then grabbed my shoulder and began kiss me again

527
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: very aggressively, and pieces placed his hand on my breast.

528
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: I pulled back and walked to another part of the room.

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00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: He then walked up, grabbed my hand, and walked me

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Speaker 1: into the bedroom. He then proceeded to grope her breast

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00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: and quote began thrusting his genitals on her. So that's disturbing, yep, okay,

532
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: so I left my body. Uh well, you know, thank

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00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: you for thank you for playing that. Thank yeah, thank you,

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00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: thank you for using your words, raise your voice. That

535
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: happened to you, happen to you, that happened to you,

536
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: And we want to remind people that that's for the

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00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: reason why we keep playing. Like on Friday, Rachel Crooks,

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00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: we had her account of her interaction with with Trump

539
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: where he tried to basically kiss her. You know, because

540
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: we are holding many other people accountable, and it's still

541
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: important that a man because like we say, it's so

542
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: easy to fucking forget or or just not want to

543
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: remember this other ship that you know, we also have

544
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: to remind ourselves that the fucking the person holding the

545
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: highest office is also yeah, a fucking sex crime. Uh.

546
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: And he's assaulting women. And again because of like the

547
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: very similar power structures that protect the Weinsteins and the

548
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: Louise of the world, they protect Trump too, because people

549
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: have a lot to lose by this man not being

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00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: in office, and that's just a shame. And I think,

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00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, we have to we have to keep we

552
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: have to keep on this. I don't know who's left

553
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: that has a lot to lose. Like that's a list

554
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: of like twenty people, and they're all like the Order

555
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: of the Twelve or some illuminati conspiracy ship. I don't

556
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: know who's left that's benefiting. I mean, look at that

557
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: tax plant um. And yeah, so I think there's been

558
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: some some claims that she is doing this because Glory

559
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: already paid her five hundred thousand dollars. But they have

560
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: produced witnesses who came forward and we're like, yeah, I know,

561
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: she told us about this, like right after it happened.

562
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Uh and before he ran for president. Because his claim

563
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: is that this is like all part of a liberal

564
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: uh you know, establishment conspiracy. It's the same Roy Moore

565
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: is using the same playbook. Yeah, you know, it's it's

566
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: it's all. It's all liberal transgendered, gay social justice warriors

567
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: who were trying to you know, ruin me, smear good

568
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: man and a proud Democrat all my life. And this

569
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: party is far too inept to execute such a broad,

570
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: sweeping conspiracy to you know, design and manufacture these stories

571
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: of women dating back decades that all accused this guy

572
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: the same behavior. But yeah, somehow that's cooked up by

573
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: a party that can't agree on a slogan that works

574
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: like there's this there's no world, which that's very equable

575
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: of weaving this whip. Yeah, who have proven time and

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00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: time again that very capable of sucking even the simplest

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00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: things up. Yes, let alone. Yeah, Jones is barely winning. Yeah,

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00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he is wing who knows. Yeah, Yeah,

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00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: that's one interesting thing. Fox News keeps being like Doug

580
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Jones up by double digits. But I don't know, I

581
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: feel like it's them trying to their Republicans to get

582
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: out Yeah, guess, lating Republicans to get out the book.

583
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: But so on this theme of you know, non famous

584
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: sexual harassment, we wanted to talk about Silicon Valley because

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00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: Miles you have some friends who work uh in like

586
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley and and and talking to them. It's

587
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: interesting that because you know, Silicon Vallees and notoriously just

588
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: a very hostile place for women to work, that there

589
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: was some feeling that he wouldn't be surprised if there

590
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: was like this backlash coming because and and it's and

591
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: it's possible in many industries. And I guess that you know,

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00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: a lot of these men who are in positions of

593
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: power aren't really looking at these accusations as wait, this

594
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: behavior is appalling unacceptable. That is why it needs to

595
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: stop rather than uh, some people got loud enough and

596
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: they got their way, so you know, like fuck it,

597
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: Like I guess they win today. But we're not doing

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00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: anything wrong. And that's like kind of a very scary prospect,

599
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: right because like this idea of like moral licensing, we

600
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: can see the pendulum swing all the way back very quickly.

601
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Like so you know, the idea of moral licensing is

602
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: that sort of uh, you know, if you say you

603
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: give yourself to do something bad because you've been good

604
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: all day or you've done good enough, so like whether

605
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, like oh well I can eat this

606
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: because I ate, you know, nothing against my diet for

607
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: the rest of the dam I can just eat this

608
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: entire cake. Or uh, you know, we voted for Obama,

609
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: so we're not racist. That means we can vote for

610
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: Trump now because I did the good thing already, and

611
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: so it's it's what's what's worrying is that that phenomenon

612
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: could be at work even in this sort of moment

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00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: we're at in history, if like our people actually acknowledging

614
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: what they're doing is actually an actible or some people

615
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: also kind of trying to protect their egos, their way

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00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: of thinking, their worldview by just saying, you know, paying

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00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: lip service to these things, but not actually internalizing or

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00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: understanding that like, wait, no, this is not the way

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00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: the world needs to be going forward, right yeah, And

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00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean with Silicon Valley, I mean it's white men

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00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: are still in almost all of the positions of power.

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00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: So I feel like a lot of these cases people

623
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: are learning their lessons as much as they are forced

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00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: to learn their lessons. And you know, like you saw

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00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: it even with the Google uh sort of screed that

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00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: guy who wrote like a long Google note about how

627
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, women don't belong in the workplace essentially and

628
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: that uh forcing women to like get jobs at Google

629
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: was like hurting Google. Um that that was something that

630
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: had been up for weeks apparently before, and that his

631
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: managers were aware of, and then it just broke publicly

632
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: and that's when he suddenly got fired. But uh, you know,

633
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: there's a crazy article about the sort of sexual discrimination

634
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: at Tesla and these companies that are beloved in America, uh,

635
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: where they will female employees will hold a company wide

636
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Speaker 1: meeting where they're like women are being discriminated against, and

637
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: it'll seem like everyone's doing the right thing. And then

638
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: they'll have a meeting with one of the like higher

639
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: higher ups and they'll be like, Okay, here's your severance

640
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: package for bringing this up. Like they because they can

641
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: get away with it, you know, right. And again these

642
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: companies too, they're dealing with massive amounts of money that

643
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: paying settlements is probably nothing to them, Like yeah, it's

644
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: like well if like it could be seen as a

645
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: cost of doing business. And it's that it's so funny

646
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: to listen to how men feel about this, because there's

647
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: men like it seems like you guys both are where

648
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: it's like this behavior is disgusting it's so amazing to

649
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: watch this change where people are being held accountable for it.

650
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: I assume that, like I have, you look back at

651
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: your past actions and think about, you know, situations that

652
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: you might have done something differently, and you grow, you change,

653
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: and then there's this other reaction that I see for

654
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: men and women, but men, uh where it's like, I

655
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: guess they're coming for me now, Like, who knows what's

656
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: page in my history? Somebody's gonna wildly misinterpreted that I

657
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: certainly shouldn't self examine. Oh, it's the witch hunt. We

658
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: better tighten up the rules because if we don't, they'll

659
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: get away with telling on us. Like, you know, we

660
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: better raise the you know money, We better get ready

661
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: to pay more settlements because they're gonna be coming in now.

662
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: How inconvenient. Uh. It's perspective that seems to pretty much

663
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: prevail in Stillicon Valley for a bunch of reasons, and

664
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: one of them is all that money. You know, how

665
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: could they be wrong? And the thing that terrifies me,

666
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: uh sincerely, is that a place like Google where that

667
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: very publicly had that kind of manifesto get leaked that

668
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about, that's the same company that's like making

669
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: devices that recognize our faces, decide our desires, and cater

670
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: to us, that listen to us in our homes. I

671
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want the people making those products that look

672
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: into my everyday life, that know everything about me and

673
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: my words orch history and whether or not I'm being

674
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: bitten by fleas or have dry skin. I don't need

675
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: the people making that to be dickles who think that

676
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: I can't do math because I have a vagina. I

677
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: don't need that. I would really prefer to have a

678
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: broader perspective involved in creating the technology that peers into

679
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: my innermostlife. There's this effect that I forget. I think

680
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: I read about it for the first time, like in

681
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: high school and The People's History of America the Zen

682
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: book where he talks about how the US Department of

683
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: Defense used to be called the War Department, and then

684
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: they changed their name to the Department of Defense the

685
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: second they started fighting offensive wars because just to like

686
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: do the opposite, essentially, to you know, cover things up.

687
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm reminded of that story every time I think of

688
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: Google's motto being don't be evil, It's like be Google,

689
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: e right, just be don't be evil? Is like such

690
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: a transparent I don't know, is it that easy to

691
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: be evil? Right? Cool? I get to decide what evil? Right?

692
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll

693
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: be right back. And we're back. So we wanna at

694
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: least mentioned the failed terror attack in Times Square in

695
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: one of the subway stations I would be most horrified

696
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: to be attacked. And the guy was walking onto the

697
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: A C when he blew himself up with a poorly built,

698
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: h improvised explosive device. This is actually the second time

699
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: so Time Square is always used as the you know threat,

700
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: Like what if a terrorist brings a suitcase dirty bomb

701
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: into Times Square? Then like that's that's the scary thing.

702
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: But so far we've had now two terror attacks attempted

703
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: in Times Square that have just been completely fucked up

704
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: like that. There's this one where the guy blew himself

705
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: up with a bomb that was so poorly built that

706
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: it didn't even kill him. Uh, and I guess it

707
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: injured for other people, so it's not funny to talk

708
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: about how poorly built it is. But and then there

709
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: was another guy who was actually funded. I didn't realize this.

710
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: I knew that there was like a failed attack back

711
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: in two thousand and ten. Apparently he was financed by

712
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: the Pakistani Taliban and was the guy who like left

713
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: a car on a really crowded touristy street in Times

714
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Square and people like a street vendor was like, hey, police,

715
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: that car over there has smoke pouring out of it

716
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: and there are firecrackers going off inside of it. And

717
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: I guess they had used the wrong type of fertilizer.

718
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: They're trying to McVeigh it. So he just made a

719
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: big firecracker, right, he just made a firecracker in his car.

720
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: I think that firecrackers were actually the detonation device. And uh,

721
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: it's really hard for an individual to change the world,

722
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Like it takes a lot of steps and it's pretty difficult,

723
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: and our own homegrown terrorists aren't any better at it

724
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: at Timothy McVeigh blew up the outside of the Oklahoma

725
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: City Building because he didn't know his truck wouldn't fit

726
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: inside of its lower parking lot. Right, So it's like

727
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: just that, I mean the rage, the I didn't rage.

728
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Somebody has to feel to drive a vehicle full of

729
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: ready to explode ship into a public space. It clouds

730
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: your mind and it really prevents you from doing some

731
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: of your very important pre planning, right, Um, got to

732
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: do that pre pro you really do? Yeah, So, I

733
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I can't say whether we are

734
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: just in like one very small thread of reality where

735
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: the two people who tried to attack Time Square fucked up,

736
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: or if there's something about you know, our security apparatus

737
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: that makes it hard for these people to you know,

738
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: build good bombs to attack you know, clearly must because

739
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I feel like these people seem to be you know,

740
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: like they're probably they're they're definitely not sophisticated people with

741
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: experience handling explosives, Like they're just probably reading something off

742
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: the internet and then like making a mess of it.

743
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: And I also feel like if you're actually buying like

744
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: the kinds of things that you need to really make

745
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: devastating bombs, like there there probably are apparatus out there

746
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: to like kind of take it. You had to scan like,

747
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: oh wait, how much you know of this given thing

748
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: are you buying? I mean, look, it's it's hard to

749
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: say like you're glad that a terroristack didn't go well,

750
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, like it's yeah, I mean they talk about

751
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, after an athlete has like five amazing games,

752
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: they're like, well, you can expect him to return to

753
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: the average about like where you would expect things to go.

754
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: I feel like you could say the same about terror attacks,

755
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: like nine eleven went as well as like like everything

756
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: went perfect. That was like Reggie Miller in the fourth quarter, right,

757
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: that was Reggie Miller, just like making thirty three's in

758
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: a row, Like it was just al Qaeda was unconscious

759
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: that day. Man, they were just like nail and everything.

760
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: They didn't leave any loose change. Uhh. And now and

761
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: now we're seeing a return to the average. I think

762
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: that is very true. But it's also what makes terror

763
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: so completely effective for it because even when it doesn't

764
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: go according to horrible, destructive evil plans, it's still fucking

765
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: terrifying and it puts it in your mind and it

766
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: calls on individuals to rise above fear, which is a

767
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: tough thing to ask human beings to do, and we

768
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: have to do it every day and it is difficult

769
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: and scary. Yeah. And I know earlier you're talking about

770
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: like like if there's like an obsession with New York,

771
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: especially like as a target, and I don't know if

772
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: that's media created or whatever. That is like why terrorists

773
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: feel like New York is always a good place to

774
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: do that. But I even find myself, like being a

775
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: West Coast person, like when I go to New York,

776
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: there are times like because I used to work for

777
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: a company that was like in the Tower or at

778
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: the New World Trade Center, and like when I go there,

779
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: like you can't help. But even when you visit New York,

780
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: think of like like just the terror attacks. And I

781
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: think that's like a very like you're saying, Caitlin, like

782
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: a weird thing that even if an attack doesn't go

783
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: right in my even in my mid subconscious, you're like wow,

784
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: like things are possible here or they feel more real

785
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: or whatever. And that is like that where the terror

786
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: aspect comes in. Yeah, and it is the most American.

787
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: It like strikes at everything about America's ideals, like the

788
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: Great melting Pot, and this is where all of I mean,

789
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: if things made sense, you know, it would be the

790
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: capital of America. It's and also it's a lot of

791
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: people on top of each other, which also makes it

792
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: makes sense as a terror target. Uh, let's get into

793
00:43:52,680 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: the Golden Globe nominations, which natural transition exactly. I I'm

794
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: scared of um. So, you know, get Out got nominated

795
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: for Best Comedy for some reason, but uh, calling that

796
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: economic comedy is a violent act. That's also because that's

797
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: how the studios submitmitted it, right, right, So it's not

798
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: that the the the old elderly people of the Hollywood

799
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: Forign Press Association were like, that was a great comedy. Yeah. Um,

800
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: I just laughed and laughed at that. Poor boys. Fear

801
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: The Shape of Water was the most nominated film, followed

802
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: by I think Three Billboards Outside Having Missouri, which I

803
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: saw over the weekend. Very good. I thought it was

804
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: very good. Although I think it's criticism. People who have

805
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: criticized it, we're right, and I loved every minute of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

806
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I also saw A Girl's Trip over the weekend and

807
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: I thought that was amazing. I thought like I would

808
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: have nominated that for Best Picture. That was so good.

809
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: And Tiffany Haddish it was mind breaking. Lee good her name,

810
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: and then watch everything she's ever done and every time

811
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: she's been on television. I don't know if there is

812
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: a more charming human being. Neither the movie or Tiffany

813
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: Haddish were nominated, which uh is insane. But again, look,

814
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: so you know, I have an intimate relationship with the

815
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: Hollywood for Impress in the front of that. My mother

816
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: is in the h f p A, and a lot

817
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: of the people in that vote are older, so they're

818
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: not quite as in tune with those kinds of things.

819
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: So I'm not totally surprised. But yeah, like it's tough

820
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: because you're not really getting a fair shake alert, like

821
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: a good look at everything that came out and what

822
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: could be good. There are a few things that seemed

823
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: surprising too, because even like with Ladybird got like a

824
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: ton of nominations, but Greta Gerwig didn't get like a

825
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: director's not or anything like that. But the Golden Globes

826
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: aren't perfect, much like most Awards shows, because inevitably, to

827
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: like these nominations will probably affect how the Academy members

828
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: vote to um, So, can I ask how Aitonia did?

829
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I comma don't know because I saw

830
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: that over the weekend and if that is playing anywhere

831
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: near you, check it out. Don't wait, go go go.

832
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: I was disappointed Logan didn't get a nomination. I thought

833
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: that was a really great maybe as good as a

834
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: superhero comic book movies have been, uh, with the possible

835
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: exception of Dark Knight and The Crazy One. For me,

836
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: I always pay attention to Best Screenplay because I feel

837
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: like in the Oscars at least, Best Original Screenplay is

838
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: actually the place where they I don't know if like

839
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: the old people just sit that one out or what,

840
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: but it's the one where they actually give the award to,

841
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: like the best movie or like the thing that I

842
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: actually was most impressed by. Um, they didn't nominate Get

843
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Out for Best Original Screenplay and the Golden Globes, which

844
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: is insane to me because that seems to be like

845
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: one of the groundbreaking screenplays of the past decade. Yeah,

846
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: it seems like that should have been should have been

847
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: up there. Um. So hopefully that just gives the Academy

848
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Speaker 1: an example of something not to do when when they're

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Speaker 1: came out. Well, I think hopefully you think that the

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Speaker 1: Writer's Guild would at least acknowledge that much, because I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's I think it's over some

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Speaker 1: of these people's heads. And HFP, a super producer, Anna

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Speaker 1: just informed me that Titania is up for Best Comedy

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Speaker 1: slash Musical, you know, head to head with get out Right,

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Speaker 1: two films that you could easily compare. Uh. Also, calling

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Speaker 1: Aitania comedy is a touch dismissive. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it is. I don't know if it's a biopic. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's a docu slash mockumentary, because I

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Speaker 1: think they submitted Wolf of Wall Street as a comedy

862
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Speaker 1: too that year. This year also, it's just weird because

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Speaker 1: it's that they even create an opportunity for someone to

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Speaker 1: submit a film. But The Martian was a comedy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you do that because like best Pictures too congested,

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Speaker 1: and you'd be like, oh, well, here's a good way

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Speaker 1: to like it. We can say it has this bend.

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of gaming the system. I feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: The Martian had a lot of laughs. I could like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that one was quite as crazy as

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Speaker 1: get Out. Get Out. Get Out is not funny, well,

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Speaker 1: I think, But then the people argue that it's like

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Speaker 1: satirical at its core. That's that's why it's a horror film,

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Speaker 1: because it isn't. But again, this is what how the

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Speaker 1: studio was trying to to rationalize why they submitted it

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Speaker 1: as a comedy. Uh. I saw Get Out on a plane,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of those movies that sticks to your ribs.

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Speaker 1: Wish I'd seen it in the theaters. It deserves it,

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Speaker 1: But I wound up catching it on a plane and

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Speaker 1: I had to like get out of my seat and

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Speaker 1: just walk around the aisle of the plane for a minute.

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted somebody else to be watching it

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Speaker 1: so we could be like, can we talk about this

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Speaker 1: right now? Nobody wanted to talk about it right now?

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Speaker 1: But that movie. I think it's brilliant. It deserves every

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Speaker 1: accolade it gets. Uh, it is not a comedy. I

887
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Speaker 1: have never risen from my seat out of physical discomfort

888
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Speaker 1: at anything except for me the parents. And also they

889
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Speaker 1: capture like some of the nuances of like the very

890
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Speaker 1: sort of subtle forms of racism people of felt experience,

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Speaker 1: like whether it's like man, you're so cool, like that

892
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Speaker 1: version to where you're like, well, the first time I

893
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Speaker 1: saw I was like fuck, bro, like that's some real ship.

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Speaker 1: I think it's not there. There's such good moments in

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Speaker 1: that film that like really are they're just so honest?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it when told against like in the backdrop

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Speaker 1: of the story, it's it's even crazier, all right, And

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Speaker 1: we just want to go out reminding everybody, Uh, today

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Speaker 1: or tomorrow, depending on when you're listening to this is

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Speaker 1: the Alabama Senate race is uh in America. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, please go vote for Doug Jones. If you

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Speaker 1: are in Alabama, if you know anyone there, please tell

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Speaker 1: them to not vote for Roy Moore. It's been a

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Speaker 1: strange final couple of days for a couple of reasons. Uh. One,

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Speaker 1: there is just absolutely no consensus on who's winning. And

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Speaker 1: like I said earlier, Fox News claims that Roy Moore

907
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Speaker 1: is down by double digits, but then you know most saying, uh,

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Speaker 1: polls are saying that very close, it's very close, and

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Speaker 1: that Roy Moore is at least up by a couple

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Speaker 1: percentage points. Uh. What's really weird though, and Miles you

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Speaker 1: can speak to this a little bit, is that so

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Speaker 1: the last four days of of an election are you

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Speaker 1: were saying, it's known as like get out the vote

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Speaker 1: at GOTV weekend? Right, Yeah, and that's where you really

915
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Speaker 1: have to go knocking doors, call it going through your

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Speaker 1: voter roles, making sure you're calling people who you have

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Speaker 1: ide to supporters to remind them to get out the

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Speaker 1: vote on Tuesday, tell your friends and family, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Like it's really it's the it's the most important final

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Speaker 1: push to really make sure that you activate all your

921
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Speaker 1: supporters before an election. And like, yeah, when I was

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Speaker 1: working politics, I did a lot of campaigns to where

923
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Speaker 1: you don't sleep. You you start, you like wake up

924
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Speaker 1: like at five on Friday and you maybe sleep like

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Speaker 1: eight hours the entire or weekend until Tuesday because you're

926
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Speaker 1: you're just doing so many things to get this done.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Roy Moore has been invisible since TuS Tuesday

928
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Speaker 1: fucking vanished. Like in most campaigns, if your candidate is

929
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Speaker 1: not in front of a crowd that is cheering, you

930
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: are doing a bad job at this point in the election.

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Speaker 1: And he has They've just hidden him. Um, which is

932
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Speaker 1: could be good. I mean, it could be a good move.

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Speaker 1: It might just be brilliant. It might be like very

934
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Speaker 1: shrewd because you know they this is tribal. You're voting

935
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Speaker 1: for team read you are not voting for Roy Moore.

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Speaker 1: Forget that you're voting for a pedophile. Um, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's interesting. Uh, you know, whatever happens, we'll

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Speaker 1: probably be talking about it on Well, we'll see because

939
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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna say a lot because you know, the

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Speaker 1: young Republicans of Alabama are like absolutely not. There are

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Speaker 1: many people who are in the Republican establishment who are

942
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Speaker 1: like really having really serious doubts about the party because

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Speaker 1: of this, because like, wait, where the funk are we

944
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Speaker 1: like have we become that partisan that we're just going

945
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Speaker 1: to overlook these like very credible accusations against this person.

946
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Speaker 1: Really no one better to run for Senate and all

947
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Speaker 1: of Alaban this was the cream of your crop. Yes, guy,

948
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Speaker 1: I mean you could have had fucking Luther Strange, but

949
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Speaker 1: because he's not a Bannonite. That's the other thing too,

950
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Speaker 1: is like you have Bannon behind the scenes like leaning

951
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Speaker 1: on Sean Hannity to retract him, like his ultimatum to

952
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Speaker 1: get him to like explain himself, or and also clearly

953
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Speaker 1: leaning on Trump because suddenly the r n C and

954
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Speaker 1: the White House are like full Roy Moore. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's wild. So you never know what the fun is

956
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Hopefully the right fucking thing happens. Yeah, it's

957
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Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting also just because of Trump is

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Speaker 1: um and Bannonite type like uh, you know, there was

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Speaker 1: the Virginia election where the guys supported by Bannon and

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Speaker 1: uh somewhat like linked to Trump lost, but this is

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Speaker 1: a full throated like Trump is um. You know, Trump

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Speaker 1: didn't endorse him at first during the election, but he

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Speaker 1: the Trumpiest of the Trump Frank Rich just wrote an

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Speaker 1: article in New York Magazine and called After Trump that

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Speaker 1: is really interesting because it talks about how he thinks

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Speaker 1: Trump is Um will outlast Trump and is more powerful

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Speaker 1: than Trump. And you know, he pointed to the primary

969
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Speaker 1: where the you know, very clear candidate who represents Trump's

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Speaker 1: values and the values that got Trump elected one over

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Speaker 1: the candidate that Trump officially endorsed just based on his gut,

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Speaker 1: who was more of an establishment person. So it'll it'll

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Speaker 1: be very interesting if this will also be a test

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Speaker 1: of how powerful the sort of populist right wing Trump

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Speaker 1: is m is uh in terms of you know, whether

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Speaker 1: Roy Moore is able to disappear enough to get elected,

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Speaker 1: and then also then brings up what happens if he

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Speaker 1: gets elected? And then what will the GOP do if

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Speaker 1: he is actually part of the body of the Senate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we we shall see. Uh, Caitlin, this was so

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Speaker 1: much fun, gentlemen. It is always a delight to go

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