1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, twenty six 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: episode for guys. It's a production of iHeart Radio and 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: america shared consciousness. And it's Thursday, February twenty second, twenty 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: twenty four. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: To to to two four to to wait too, yeah exactly. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Guess what shout out everybody working in the supermarket Supermarket 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: employee Day. It's shout out also National Chili Day. Ch 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: I l i okay for all you chili lovers out there. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Myself included nationals cook a. 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Sweet more of a key bos guy. 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, Wow wow wow wow. 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Well your left eye open, Jack, because you're gonna miss 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: National Margarita Day. And everyone likes to Spicy margaritas are 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: everywhere now and I kind of hate it now. Every 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: everything's like we have spice, Like people have shit written 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: on windows. I'm like, we have spicy margarita's. Okay anyway, 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: National Spice shot out Market Day, shout out to all 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: my golden staters. Were the poppies or what Yeah, what's 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: starting at wildflower? Yeah? The golden poppies bloom, you know 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: what I mean? And it's national California day. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Okay, and you're flying back today. 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: You're going back. Yeah, we're out of Sunshine State to 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: the Golden State. We're gonna rip through this one. 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Just real half ass or as we call it in 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: the industry, because Miles is a plane to catch. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: My name is Chuck. 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: O'Brien aka oo wee. I've got resting butler face. Now, 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Oh can I take your luggage? 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: Sir? 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Just don't ask me to iron over anything. 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: I'm not good at that. 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I suck shit at that. The courtesy of the 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: b Squad in reference to my time as a butler. 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, my first job, or one of my first 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: jobs out of school, butler, It was just just a 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: concierge at a fancy British hotel, and I knew how 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: to iron my clothes. I did not know how to 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: iron a gown. 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: Which I was asked to do very early, and a 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: very patient, push British woman showed me, was like, here, 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: let me show you how to do this, and there. 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: Now you know how to use an iron. And I've 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: married that woman. That's right, she's now my wife. 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Unimpressed, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: co host mister Miles Gras. 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I may be in the three h five, but 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: it's still a one to eight every day. Myles Gray 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: aka you meet her for lunch just to hit a ullo. 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: She's faking a smile, orders her lunch to go. You 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: tell her your fine, take in your time. She nods in, 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: gets up, and then be lines to the door with 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: her BURIEDO break a bat a boat le you're taking 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: a nel mouthful up, thinking, man, what the hell? All right? 55 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: Shout out to Doc Doc Lobster for that. Doctor Wops 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: aka this. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Is our guest today is one of my favorite to 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: sing in front of because he just like puts his 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: face in his hands and just fully appreciates how dumb 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: this show is yeah, and gives it to us with the. 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 5: Fever dream that I wander into every time I'm. 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: On Yeah, yeah, Look, you know what I was broken 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: up with at a Chipotle and an oyster? And I 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: mean I have another breakup story out of a food 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: based breakup store I have still having told, so I'll 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: keep that one on deck for another time. 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: It's amazing that you didn't develop like an eating disorder 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: of some short of some sort if anything. 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: I just learned as fast as possible because I have 70 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: no idea when the meal could be ruined. But I 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: being broken up with, yeah. 72 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: You do eat pretty fast for a only child. Usually 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: people who eat fast are doing it to try and 74 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: get the food before their siblings. 75 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: I did spend a very good amount of my time 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: in my childhood up the street from my house in 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: a Catholic house that had like like a bunch of 78 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: kids shout out the Shrek family, and I would just like, 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, I knew. I learned how to go ham 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: in a very quick amount of time. Like I was 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: eating like a firefighter, basically, just. 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: Like what the Shrek family was it like Fiona and Shrek. 83 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: And they're also no no different spelling, different spelling, okay 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: they were anyway, like damn we the Shreks when that 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: when the movie came out, and I was like, respect. 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: Respect, We're thrilled Miles to be joined in our third 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: seat by a podcast or extraordinari who is too good 88 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: to be on this show? 89 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Come on? What is he doing here? You know him? 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: From this Day and esotery, political history from Radio Topia, 91 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: A Good Sport from Ted and Pushkin thirty for thirty 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: for ESPN the five thirty eight politics podcast, where I 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: first caught wind of him, the lead producer on the Puzzler. 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: It's Jody Ever. 95 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 5: Good right, I appreciate this, and I'm sorry you have 96 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: a plane to catch. I appreciate that we're here on 97 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: what is it National Phone? It in on your podcast 98 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 5: days fight. 99 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: That's right, No, no it's not, it's not. I have 100 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: I have plenty of time. Ye were just we're just while. 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 5: We're each singing, I just want to say each singing 102 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 5: a like five verse ridiculous song. I had some time 103 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 5: here to google National California Day, which is a deeply 104 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: weird thing that you would have a national single day 105 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: to celebrate a state. But and I can't really figure 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 5: out why it's February twenty second. 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, rubbing it in for to other people that it's 108 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: like sunny warm here. 109 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not bad. 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: Your your day probably sucks compared to ours on this 111 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Nationville California Day. 112 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: You know what's wold. It's just it was only done 113 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: because of this calendar website said it was. Yes, there's 114 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: they're just like it just said literally. Founded in nineteen 115 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: or in twenty seventeen by National day calendar to cethbrate 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: California is the thirty first. It's a thirty one proud 117 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: date history. Wow, I can't even. 118 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 5: Spell thirty first as a dog situation where they's, well, 119 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 5: we have a calendar and we have to put something 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 5: on every day. Yeah, there's fifty states, so that's a 121 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 5: good number of days right there. 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: So it says that it's it is to celebrate California 123 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: as the thirty oneth state. It's three one thirty one. 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty one leapiers in leap yeers, it's the thirty oneth. 125 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Oh man, we are in 126 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: a leap year. 127 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: How's everybody celebrating you guys doing anything wild for leap year? 128 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: You didn't get my invite for my big Leapier white party. No, 129 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: it's in the Hamptons. It's just a real bash. Yeah, 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: it's amazing my home. 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: He's turning ten, which is kind of cool. Is that real? Yeah? 132 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: Worse fortieth birthday? He's turning ten, but we're calling it 133 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: his tenth birthday. 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: Does he have like a ten year old's birthday? 135 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: No, he's just because it's a leap years to come 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: around every four every four years, They're like, bro, your 137 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: your birthday doesn't exist this year, so. 138 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: You should have to celebrate that that as that age, we. 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: Go, Yeah, we'll go to Chuck E Cheese and we'll 140 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: all get in fist fights with the other stressed out parents. 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll get your first boner. 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: In the ballpit, as one does. They got rid of 143 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: the ballpit. Too many bombers to it's all just a 144 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: video game arcade these days. Yeah, yeah, Jody, we're gonna 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: Teller listeners. 147 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: A couple of things we're talking about. We got the 148 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: first little taste of Trump's new reality show wherein he's 149 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: going to be picking a vice president with it's I 150 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: don't know that how much it's his idea and how 151 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: much is the mainstream media's idea. But I do feel 152 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: like the mainstream media needs this. They're like the primary 153 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: is really under delivered for us, and if you look 154 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: at the video, but like this is mainly Fox News 155 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I'm going to give you a list 156 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: of six names, and you tell like it's like a 157 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: first or something. You know, you tell me if they're 158 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: on your list. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll talk 159 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: about frozen embryos being deemed literal children according to the 160 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Alabama Supreme Court. We will talk about measles making a comeback. 161 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: We love it, don't we, folks. 162 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: All of that plenty more. But first, Jody, we do 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your 164 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: search history? 165 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 5: This last week has been one of the more busy 166 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 5: weeks of my professional life in a good way. But 167 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 5: I've been like, really just hold up and kind of 168 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: with blinders on, so I haven't searched much with the 169 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: one thing I did spend a long time searching was 170 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 5: and it's My search history is mostly this is New 171 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: Balance five to seven four US, which are you know, 172 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: one of my go to shoe and I've worn that 173 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 5: shoe basically for the last ten years or so. But 174 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 5: there's this very frustrating dynamic, which is I buy a pair, 175 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: I really like them, and then they run out, you know, 176 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: they wear out, and I go and look for that 177 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 5: pair again and they don't make the color any more. 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: And I have this thought of, like, I should just 179 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: buy three when I find a color I like and 180 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 5: just stock up. I've never really been that way, both 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 5: in terms of sneaker collecting or foresight. And so this 182 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: week was my one kind of like non working on 183 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 5: podcasts excursion was to try and stock up on colors 184 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: that I liked in the five seven fours that's spent 185 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 5: way too long. Well, they're not making a color that 186 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 5: I love right now? 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: What was that one? Just so further sneaker head out there, 188 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: so I can envision. 189 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 5: Oh, the one that I the last one I really well, 190 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: there was one, the one that like really led to 191 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 5: this moment regret. There was one I don't remember the 192 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 5: exact name of the color way, but it was like 193 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 5: it had like a light blue, it had like a 194 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 5: sky blue and a little bit of yellow on it, 195 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: and it was just really really nice. And it's the 196 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 5: one that I wish I had bought five of and 197 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 5: just worn for the next five years of my life. 198 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: But are you are you like doing like a Steve 199 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: Jobs kind of thing with your with your sneakers? Your 200 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: life might be this is it like. 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: On the sneaker front? Definitely like I'm not, you know, 202 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: I liked I like the way those shoes look. They 203 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 5: they toe, they toe a lot that I think is 204 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 5: perfectly on brand for me, which is like. 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: Very are intended just so we can get that out 206 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: of the stay. 207 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: Yes, that was very intended. Yeah, they project Dad first 208 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 5: and foremost, which is very comfortable with, but a little 209 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: bit of you know, a little a little more interesting. 210 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 5: And so I think the five seven fourth square that 211 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 5: for me. But yeah, I would very happily just like 212 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 5: have fifteen pairs of that. I was sitting there and 213 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: every six months just put on a fresh pair. 214 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just recently blew through my first pair of 215 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: new Balances that I'm like, oh yeah, because you know you, 216 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, I need my dad's shoe life. 217 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: I need I need comfortable shoes. I can't just walk 218 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: around and untied Jordans all day like I used to, 219 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: where my my feet just get just wrecked. 220 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feet when you take a lot of 221 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: a lot of steps under Jordan. 222 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: That's the big thing. 223 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: I barely time my shoe Like I only started tying 224 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: my shoes like maybe two years, like a year ago. 225 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I keep them loose. 226 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: And some of the Jordans are like starting to feel 227 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: to me in my old age, like the boots from 228 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: the face off Prism. 229 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: They're just oh like magnetic to the ground. 230 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: You use a hand to like get my legs moving 231 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: a little bit around the house. 232 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: Are you a socks or a slippers person? 233 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: Socks? 234 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 5: Socks? 235 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. I have socks my uh, and I 236 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: have grippy socks too, Like in the pandemic, like when 237 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: it started, and I was, you know, because I don't 238 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: wear shoes at home, I just had socks that were 239 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: that felt like they had traction. They'd be like, well, 240 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm not totally fucking around with my footwear right now. 241 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 242 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: You like to be able to jump stop wherever you 243 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: are even Oh, yes, you get able to stop on 244 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: a dime? 245 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, euro stamp, Yeah exactly. After repeated blows to the 246 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: back of my head trying to do that, yeah, I 247 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: was like, I gotta get grippy socks. 248 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: What uh, what's something, Jody? Do you think is overrated? 249 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 5: This is not exactly exactly overrated because I love it. 250 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 5: But I was thinking about this past weekend. I conned 251 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: my daughter into alphabetizing my vinyl collection for me, which 252 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: was great. It'd been like two decades of mess and 253 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 5: then I was like, oh, this would be educational to her, 254 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 5: and you know, really it was just finally getting around 255 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: to doing it. So we sat down and wetized my vinyl, 256 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 5: and most of it is like stuff that I bought, 257 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 5: you know, for like two dollars a record, three dollars 258 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 5: a record, like many many years ago of hauled around 259 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: and I love, you know, I love listening to it, 260 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 5: but I've gotten a little bit into just buying stuff 261 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 5: on vinyl, like a lot of people have lately, and 262 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 5: it's really expensive, like it's crazy. And I was reading 263 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: something yesterday about someone saying kind of like everyone that 264 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 5: they know who collected vinyl for like the practice of it, 265 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: you know, not not necessarily for the fidelity of the audio, 266 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: but like just it's fun to collect and it's good. 267 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 5: It's nice look at the artwork, and it's nice to 268 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 5: have music collection. All those people, at least this person claimed, 269 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 5: are moving to CDs now because you still get that 270 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 5: active collecting, but like you're not dropping forty dollars on 271 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 5: piece of vinyl. So I think Final is writing this 272 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 5: weird like maybe overrated curve or whatever. I think it's 273 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 5: gonna and I start I've started to feel that myself too, like, oh, 274 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 5: it's really fun to do this, but gosh, I cannot 275 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: drop twenty five to forty dollars every time I get 276 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: a new piece of finyl. 277 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: You don't think, because I've thought about this myself, and 278 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: the reason I've justified my vinyl collection is that if 279 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: there's like the world's electronics go out, my CDs are useless, 280 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: my MP threes are useless, But I can still put 281 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: my ear to a needle and move the record around 282 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: and still hear the music or like muse it round. 283 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: Like to me, it feels like the one apocalypse proof 284 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: form of recorded music. 285 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had to do that, just really like 286 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: hand rotate the record, I feel like that would get 287 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: annoying for you. 288 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 5: I think there was a whole and the director's cut 289 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: of Station eleven, there's like a ten hour section where 290 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: they're just listening to need a simone by hand cranking 291 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: it around. It's really an incredible scene. 292 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: Vinyl, right, at least compared to me. 293 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm sure, yeah, yeah. 294 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: So people are skipping the tapes tapes, which is right. 295 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 5: Well, that's the other question, the tapes. But I guess, 296 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: I guess the tapes aren't as like interesting of an 297 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 5: artifact and then and so forth, and if you're really 298 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 5: just in it to kind of like be able to 299 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 5: flip through stuff or whatever and just like you're collecting. 300 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 5: Then CDs might be the answer. 301 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: But I think like a lot of the hip or 302 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: bands are putting out tapes now too, like oh yeah, 303 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: is that in la where they're like, no, dude, put 304 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: Aren't dar Demo on fucking cassette? But then it like 305 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: it sounds like whatever. God, I mean, it's cool, I 306 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: get it, you know, do what you want to do. 307 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 5: No, it's funny. You go to band camp and it's 308 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: like you buy it and the options are basically like 309 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 5: P three cassette and fifty dollars vinyl that'll take eight 310 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 5: months to arrive because Taylor Swift gets the print all 311 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 5: of her stuff before any indie band gets the print. 312 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: All the world's vinyl is going to making that. 313 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 5: It's true, it's a huge shortage. It's kind of an 314 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: incredible thing that all these big artists like leap Frog, 315 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: all the all the other folks who want to put 316 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: stuff out on vinyl. 317 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Is it the material that there's a Is it like 318 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: helium like one of those materials that secretly is just 319 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: like we have a finite limit of vinyl in it. 320 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 5: It's more the manufacturing facilities. But I'm not sure, but 321 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 5: I think it's that, you know, it's vinyl has taken 322 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 5: off a you know in the last few years, but 323 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 5: not to a place where like it's worth opening a 324 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: vinyl factory in you know, in Cleveland or whatever. So 325 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 5: there's still a limited, limited manufacturing capability, but like a 326 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: really exponentially growing demand. And so then yeah, it's created 327 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: this whole thing where like Taylor Shift can put out 328 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 5: all her back catalog on vinyl, you know, have it 329 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 5: on shelves in a week, and indie bands need to 330 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 5: wait like eight months in line, you know, Right. 331 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: Will there ever be music stores like physical media stores? 332 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: Again? 333 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: Like not not you know. 334 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Used record stores like we have now, but like, will 335 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: there be a future where there's a record store, just 336 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: like it's not abnormal to see one? 337 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: Do you guess think? 338 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: I think so. I mean, at least in New York, 339 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 5: there's like I mean, I was at the the Rough 340 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 5: Trade has like a proper record store here in New York, 341 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: a flagship store, and it's like looked like a you know, 342 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 5: record starts a bunch of new vinyl, and actually there's 343 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: a cassette player. I noticed on per sale there too, 344 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 5: But I don't know, I mean, I don't think there's 345 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: going to be in every neighborhood or on every corner. 346 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, right, oh wow, it sounds like too. It's like, 347 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: because CDs, you know, became the norm, all the vinyl 348 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: operations just started to cease to exist, and so you're 349 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: left with like less plants. But also apparently there's a 350 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: place that The Apollo Masters fire of February twenty twenty 351 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: also had a huge setback on the vinyl industry. The 352 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: only plant in North America equipped to manufacture vinyl lacquer discs, 353 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: which is a key step in manufacturing process, had a 354 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: three alarm fire that completely destroyed its facility. That's great. Yeah, 355 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: so now people are going to a manufacturer in Japan. 356 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this shit is Yeah. 357 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: Can I tell you my favorite little at about vinyl 358 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 5: records that I learned in just fairly recently. And I'm 359 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 5: sure I will get corrected by the Reddit page if 360 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 5: I screw this up, but it's something like this that 361 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 5: the like physical way that a needle interacts with the 362 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 5: grooves on a record has a little bit to do 363 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: with the instrumentation on the record, right, And it's basically 364 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 5: that like higher pitch stuff has shallower or smaller grooves, 365 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 5: and more bass has bigger grooves and Moreover, as the 366 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: needle and the arm gets closer to the middle of 367 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 5: a record, it becomes a little more unstable just because 368 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 5: of the physics of it or whatever. Which is all 369 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: to say that throughout the like sixties seventies when they 370 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: were pressing vinyl, it was very risky to put bass 371 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 5: heavy songs on the towards the middle of a side 372 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 5: of vinyl, right, because it could potentially like throw things off. 373 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: So to me, so like to me, you know, I've 374 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 5: always been like, oh, I love all these Fleetwood mac 375 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 5: records where like the end of side one then on 376 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: this beautiful acoustic little piece, you know what, wonderful track 377 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 5: listing in our program. And it's actually just because of 378 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: the like a physical problem they have to do that. 379 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 5: But it has like defined for me, like so many 380 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 5: of these records that they end on these little acoustic moments. 381 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, like put the bangers up top. Yeah that basically 382 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: the Beatles White album like opens with back in the 383 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: USS or or whatever, and then amazing what uh, what's 384 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? 385 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 5: Jody Mittens, that's not that interesting. Actually know you might 386 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 5: wait wait, can I ask your questions? Sorry to break? 387 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: Can something be underrated if it's on the list of 388 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: favorite things from the song favorite Things? Just a question 389 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm put putting out there, but it's true. 390 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: We'll let the listeners decide. 391 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's underrated, but it's something that 392 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: is that I've really loved in my life and I'm 393 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 5: ranting to everyone about. But is this product? I don't 394 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: know if they're gonna sponsor the show. Maybe they can 395 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 5: sponsor the show. It's called Brick. Have you heard about this? Brick? 396 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: And it is Mittens. 397 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: I switched from Have you heard about this? 398 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: I love Brick? 399 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I threw them through a cop cars windshield. 400 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 5: No exactly exactly. They're great. No, no, no, so so 401 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: brick is this is this device? I've been on a 402 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 5: long quest to like remove apps from my phone and 403 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: sort of not get caught in the rabbit hole of 404 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: you know, social media and all that stuff in my phone. 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 5: And I've tried all sorts of things, including going to 406 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 5: a flip phone for a while, and that was no 407 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 5: good and I had to go back and I finally 408 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 5: discovered a thing called Brick, which is a product, and 409 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 5: it basically is a piece of software that lets you 410 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: decide what apps you want to have on and what 411 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 5: apps you you don't want to have on. So you 412 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 5: can basically take your phone and just say, like I 413 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: want Maps, I want Spotify, I want so forth. You know, 414 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 5: I want all these things, but I also don't but 415 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: I don't want to have all the social media and 416 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: email and all that stuff. And the way you turn 417 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: it on and turn it off, the way you activate 418 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 5: it is by tapping it against a physical square device 419 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 5: called the Brick, and that thing lives on my fridge. 420 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 5: So it's sitting on my fridge, and when I want 421 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 5: to basically unlock my phone, I have to walk over 422 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 5: and like tap it against this little thing that's that's 423 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 5: on my fridge. And when I leave the house, I 424 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 5: can't unlock my phone because the Brick is back on 425 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: my fridge and it has done wonders. It's incredible. I 426 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 5: have finally kind of like on on rabbit hold my phone, 427 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 5: and I only have things on there that are like useful, 428 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 5: and I don't have any of the distractions yeah. 429 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: Oh so it basically is like, okay, time out for 430 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: these other apps. Yeah, until you come back for the 431 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: brick tap. Okay. 432 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: The physicality of it's cool that there's no right, a 433 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: physical space that's like your that's like base for your phone. 434 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm off base, I can Yeah, that's exactly right. 435 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right. 436 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 5: That's because the problem is that like iPhones have that 437 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 5: screen time thing where it's like you can tell up 438 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 5: and close all these apps, but it's still the way 439 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 5: to unlock. It is still on your phone, and you 440 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 5: find yourself going and undoing the settings, and the fact 441 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 5: that it's just a physical, separate space has made all 442 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 5: the difference. Like it's really yeah, it's great. 443 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: It's like you can't psycho analyze yourself. You can't fix 444 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: the broken tool with the broken tool, and you can't 445 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: you can't fix your phone addiction with button. 446 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: Phone right, your phone. That's cool. I love that. 447 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 5: Give it a show. 448 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Have you have you ever like accidentally not unlocked your 449 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: phone and like gone been out for the day in 450 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: New York City? 451 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: I mean I'm doing it every day. I'm basically now 452 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 5: when I leave the house, my phone is bricked, you know, 453 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 5: And so and so I've had to like tell people 454 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 5: I work with, I'm like, I don't. I no longer 455 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: have email or slack on my phone. If you need 456 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 5: to reach me, text me or call me or just 457 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 5: generally I'll be back in a couple of hours. It's all, yeah, yeah. 458 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool, all right. 459 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 5: Brick and mittens, you know, under undercut the mittens. You 460 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 5: can keep it in or you. 461 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Can I think we keep it in. Mitten's mintens are 462 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: are great. Just one of a few of my favorite things. 463 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's take a quick break and we'll be 464 00:21:52,720 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: right back and get into the news. And we're back. 465 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: And this is just a little minor one, a little 466 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: check in. But Fox News did a little town hall 467 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: event hosted by Laura Ingram where she asked Trump about 468 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: six possible choices for his running mate DeSantis, Scott Ramaswami, Donald's, 469 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Byron Donalds. 470 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: Gno, and Gabbard. 471 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: Are they all on your short list? I'm I didn't 472 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: watch it. I'm picturing this having the music from Who 473 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: Wants to Be a Millionaire behind it as she's like, 474 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: do you will you lock this in? And Trump said, yeah, honestly, 475 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: all those people are good they're all good. Oh, they're 476 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: all solid, which people people are like. 477 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, he. 478 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: Announced his short list. 479 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: No he didn't. 480 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: He just answered the question that you posed to try 481 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: to make this into a story like that. The mainstream 482 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: media needs a something right now to fill in for 483 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: the fact that there is not going to be a 484 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: primary season that people will pay attention to, and so 485 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: they're going to go with this would be my that's 486 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: my prediction is that they're just going to really turn 487 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: this into the Bachelor Vice President edition. 488 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be the Faschelor and where this is all headed. 489 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: Jack. I'm really glad you kind of honed in on 490 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: that dynamic of how that question got asked, because it 491 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 5: is such a hallmark of how people ask questions of 492 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: Trump and how he wants to be asked questions. But 493 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 5: it's this like reporter floating an idea and then all 494 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: Trump has to do is yes and and pray along 495 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 5: and acting yes, and it's like people do not you know, 496 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you're literally collaborating with him in that point, 497 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: in that way to create this news moment insure that 498 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 5: like I guess the Fox News, but even you know, 499 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: quote unquote mainstream reporters find themselves playing that game where 500 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 5: they'll just like float ideas and then Trump, I mean, 501 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 5: he will go along with almost anything that you say 502 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: to his face if it has this tone of like, 503 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: you know, it's a lot like I think she could 504 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: have snuck in, like Stacy Abrams's name, like into that 505 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 5: list and Trump would have been like, oh yeah like 506 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: them all, you know, yes, I'm into it, you know, 507 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: like you like he just so that was the dynamic 508 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 5: that I most sort of jumped out to me is 509 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: so frustrating, and we're seeing it all happen again. The 510 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 5: way that he gets asked questions like he hasn't actually 511 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 5: thought about these people. He isn't going to actually engage 512 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 5: with their merits. He's going to make it a reality 513 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 5: TV show. It is like hilarious and fucking heartbreaking to 514 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 5: me that the Santas is on that list because the 515 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 5: Santus will never ever, ever ever get picked, and mostly 516 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 5: because he's too short, and that's just like how Trump works. 517 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 5: But you know, it is just so funny that he's 518 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 5: on that list. 519 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: Does that help him that he Trump kind of towers 520 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: next to him, you know, like I. 521 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 5: Think Trump, I think Trump like literally just thinks of 522 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 5: these people as casting and when he gets it in 523 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: his head that he's too short, he's just too short, that's. 524 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Right, Or does he think of it like he's like 525 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: Pence was too tough and he had a spine. I 526 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: need I need a weakling who wears custom boots so 527 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: I can really push him around and embarrass him, because 528 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: it feels like he would if DeSantis was his VP, 529 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: he'd right be like, folks, I want you to look 530 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: at Ron's boots. 531 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: Take him off, yeah, show everybody just humiliate him like 532 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: that would probably be the most entertaining is he has 533 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: Desanta's and then just make some meat ship because I 534 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: also Desanta's what turned out to be like heading in 535 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: when he's on the cover of Time magazine and. 536 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: People are like, he's just smarter. 537 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Trump, I was like, this guy's gonna be like very boring, 538 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: and he was actually one of the more fascinating people 539 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: to watch run for office because he was so uncomfortable 540 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: and weird. Yep, So I don't hate the prospect of 541 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: him again. I don't think it's going to happen because 542 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: Trump is just like I feel like he's more likely 543 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: to just like pick the liver king or like somebody 544 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: with big muscles that he is, you know, the big 545 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: muscle is down here. 546 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I pick the undertaker from 547 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: WWE like damn, but Desanta is like I have having 548 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: Desantas squirming in the spotlight was a fun, you know, sport. 549 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't like that. 550 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 5: You know there's anything that Trump notices, it's that right, Yes, 551 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 5: Trump watches TV with the sound off and he just 552 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 5: makes you know, he just looks at someone and Desanta's 553 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: like Sweaty's squirming. 554 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: Onder the loser. 555 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a short loser, it turns out, which yeah, 556 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: unfortunately for him. Trump did especially laud Tim Scott, but 557 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: mainly for how much Scott talks about him. 558 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: So I again. 559 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: If he's trying to pick the best sick of fans 560 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna make him look good, maybe this is the pick. 561 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: If he's trying to pick like this strongest, the strongest guy, 562 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: which seems like what he did not pick the strongest 563 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: guy the first time around. He just picked the one 564 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: that his supporters were telling him, or you know, his 565 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: analysts were telling him was the best kind of strategic 566 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: triangulation move. But he said of Scott, I watched his 567 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: campaign and he doesn't like talking about himself, but boy 568 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: does he like talking about Trump. 569 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's kind of like the whole thing was 570 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: just you know, sort of rigged de facto meant for 571 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: his nomination anyway, It's like, well, I can't speak ill 572 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: of the guy who I'm going to have to beg 573 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: for a cabinet position eventually. So yeah, here we are. 574 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: Almost as all right, let's talk about the Alabama Supreme Court. Yeah, 575 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: in a first of it's kind ruling, the Alabama Supreme 576 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: Court just declared that frozen embryos are children and those 577 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: who destroy them can be held liable for wrongful death, 578 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: making it even more terrifying. It'd be a doctor in Alabama. Now, Yeah, 579 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: this is this was I think inevitable. 580 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 2: A lot of people once you know, rowe Fell, were like, 581 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, IVF is also the other thing, because these 582 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: antichoice people fucking would love nothing more than to go 583 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: after IVF and get continue the sort of like these 584 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: these cell clumps are people and they have rights, and 585 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: if you drop a test tube with it in there, 586 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: that could be murder. Although that's still we still don't 587 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: know what the bounds are of that law, but the 588 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: very least there are stiff penalties that could easily bankrupt 589 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: any sort of healthcare provider because of you know, something 590 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: happened and this, you know, this comes from these lawsuits 591 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: where these parents who had IVF treatment had their embryos frozen, 592 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: and like a patient at the hospital where the embryos 593 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: were at had got access to these embryos and then 594 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: dropped them, picked them up with the bare hands. Yes, 595 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: something that is cryogenically frozen. I don't know if you've 596 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: seen the movies, but that's a little bit. I think 597 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: that's not like taking a pint of ice cream out 598 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: of your freezer. But anyway, and then yeah, so because 599 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: of that, these embryos were destroyed and the parents sued 600 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: the clinic for quote wrongful death, and they these the 601 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: court loved nothing more than to oblige them and said that, yeah, 602 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: these are these people do fit the definition of a 603 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: person or child. 604 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: The quote from the Chief Justice is fucking terrifying. 605 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: Dude, this is wild. So yeah, the Chief Justice of 606 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: Alabama Supreme Court said that, you know the people of 607 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Alabama have declared and have adopted quote the theologically based 608 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: view that quote, life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring 609 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: the wrath of a holy god. M hmm so just 610 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: hm hmm, so. 611 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: No more capital punishment Alabama? 612 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: Is that? What? Wait? No, no, no, I mean. But 613 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: then also, how conversely, how would you look at the 614 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: idea of science being able to to create life out 615 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: of the you know, the the actual human intercourse version 616 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: versus you know, because right now IVF eggs are retrieved, 617 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: they're fertilized with sperm, and then they're rated for quality, 618 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: and the higher quality embryos are the ones that are 619 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: transferred to the uterus, and often more than one at 620 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: a time are done so in order to increase the 621 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: chances of success. And so that's the that's the thing 622 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: where this chief just is like, well, there is a 623 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: version that you could do that wouldn't put it at risk. 624 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: So in this version, according to this Chief Justice, who 625 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: is not a fucking doctor, is basically saying every time 626 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: an embryos created, it has to be transferred to the 627 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: uterus and regardless of quality. So you're saying like and 628 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: if a doctor be like this has actually a very 629 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: low chance of being successful, They're like, well, we got 630 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: to try because that embryo is a person and if 631 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: you destroy it then that's that's a no no, and 632 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: you will incur the wrath of a fucking holy God. 633 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: And this is like obviously terrible because it's just it's expensive, 634 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: it's needless, very painful for the patient. And this is 635 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: just sort of like the abortion bands where logic does 636 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: not prevail, where they're like, no, the doctor must wait 637 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: until the patient is like on death's doorstep before they 638 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: can intervene and ask a court if it's okay to 639 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: terminate a pregnancy, and the Chief Justice is sort of 640 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: logic for this more arcane version of IVF that he 641 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: feels is more in line. 642 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: With God's law. 643 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: He was like, well, you know, it's it's fine because 644 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: the Italians made this a law back in two thousand 645 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: and four and then completely left out the part where 646 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: the law was fucking rescinded a few years later because 647 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: it was so fucked up and backwards. So yeah, this 648 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: is just a very you know, the next sort of 649 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: the next target in terms of reproductive rights that anti 650 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: choice people are going after. And yeah, obviously people are 651 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: scared because it could go to other states. 652 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you're right, you're right to point out that, 653 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: you know, it is clearly there's just a top line 654 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 5: agenda here and everything is kind of retrofitted to fit 655 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 5: into it, including not sort of thinking through the rip 656 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 5: effects as you were saying. But like on the on 657 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: the front end, I mean, it's just I don't know, 658 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 5: maybe it's just stating the obvious, but like the idea 659 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 5: that you're trying to essentially make a law that points 660 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 5: out that, like a random person shouldn't walk into a 661 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 5: facility and grab frozen embryo things and then accidentally drop 662 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: them on the ground, Like I think we do we 663 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 5: need do we need a law? Yeah? Do we need 664 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 5: a law exactly? Do we need a law that then 665 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 5: defines embryos people in order to kind of like put 666 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 5: guardrails on that kind of behavior? And so clearly, like 667 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: you know, this is exploiting a moment in order to 668 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: take a bigger, a bigger stance here and set some 669 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 5: really sort of scary precedent. But I mean, like not 670 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 5: everything and I understand this hell often works, but there 671 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 5: it's probably another way, you know, like the pre war 672 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: should have been like how about a key? Yeah? 673 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: What if that ship? 674 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 675 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: How about how about gloves next to the cryogenic freezer. 676 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 5: But the gloves have the Bill of Rights and the 677 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 5: gloves of the you know, some Bible versus on the back. 678 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Right commandments on the back, so that you can did 679 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: anybody notice if this justice's hands were bandaged up while 680 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: he was delivering this because it feels like the sort 681 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: of thing like you. 682 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 5: Could sit inside job. 683 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying, so show me your hands, sir. 684 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 5: It's it's clearly the most efficient way to get this ruling. 685 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because it's like such an inexplicable move like 686 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: move by the person to just go in there and 687 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: be like doope to doop de doo. 688 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are these things do? 689 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is going to have immediate, really fucked 690 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: up consequences for fertility specialists. They don't really like doctors 691 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: aren't even sure how to proceed in light of this, 692 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: because point they've been given absolutely no guidance and it's 693 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: just so kind of out of left field that there's 694 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: not a clear path. 695 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: Forward for them. So no, yeah, and like using laws 696 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: from like the nineteenth century to like kind of be 697 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: part of like their reasoning. I mean, it's just you know, 698 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: it's by every definition, the most regressive form of creating 699 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: a law to punish people for whatever. Again, because the 700 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: agenda is these clumps of cells are human beings, and 701 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: I think that's what a lot of people whenever these 702 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: sort of declarations are made, You're always like, okay, so 703 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: then what does that mean? Like what rights do they 704 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: have too? Like if they are a person, then do 705 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: they have don't they got rights? And then how does 706 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: that work? But the other thing is too with these 707 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: embryos that are stored, they're saying that like you can't 708 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: these these IVF clinics have to store the embryos like 709 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 2: imperpetuity dues. Like there's no there is no like disposing 710 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: of embryos. They said, even after quote even after the 711 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: couple's children, grandchildren, and even great grandchildren have died, they 712 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: must remain in cryogenic storage. And again it's just to 713 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: make it completely. 714 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 5: Catscade of little ripple effects. I mean, I can just 715 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: imagine like the clerk for this judge like every ten 716 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 5: minutes walking back into office and that Okay, I just 717 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 5: figured out, like we're gonna have to answer this thing too. 718 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 5: It's like okay, oh, but what about okay, so I 719 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 5: guess that's store them forever. Okay, write that down. Okay, 720 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 5: now we'll get you. 721 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll 722 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: be right back. 723 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: And we're back. 724 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: And the fallout from Trump's financial ruling keeps coming. First, 725 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: he starts selling the sick Golden sneakers at Sneaker con 726 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: and now New York is losing two of its most 727 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: promising and successful entrepreneurs. The guy who made Dilbert and 728 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: the dumb guy from Shark Tank are both They've both 729 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: announced if New York's gonna be a dick about it, 730 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: then they're not. They're not gonna do business in New York. 731 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: So this is following the ruling that Trump has to 732 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: pay three hundred and fifty five million dollars plus interest 733 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: for lying about his wealth and inflating the value of 734 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: his assets. Canadian businessman in Shark Tank goon Kevin O'Leary, 735 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: he told Fox News that he will never invest in 736 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: New York now because it is a lose, loser state. 737 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: Sir, are you vying for a cabinet position too? What's 738 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: going on? He said? 739 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: It was already a loser state like California is a 740 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: loser state. There are many loser states because of policies, 741 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: high taxes, and uncompetitive regulations. It was already at the 742 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: top of the list of loser states. Never invest in 743 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: New York. And I'm not the only person saying that 744 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: I love. He really has the trump ism of like 745 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: people are saying, I'm not the only one. 746 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: A lot everybody. 747 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: Everybody's saying these people are losers. 748 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: The New York is the top of the loser states. 749 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 2: So funny, Yes, everybody says they're a loser, also behind 750 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 2: your back, and they just don't tell you to your face, 751 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: but like everyone's saying it. 752 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: Also, if there's one thing O'Leary is an expert in, 753 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: it's being a loser. According to his turn on Celebrity Jeopardy, 754 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah he got is that Aaron Rodgers? 755 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah he might. 756 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: I think that's Aaron Rodgers at twelve thousand, eight hundred 757 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: dollars and mister Wonderful at negative two thousand, eight hundred. 758 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: It's up there with Wolf Blitzer on the list of 759 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: like Celebrity Jeopardies where you're like, oh, this, this is 760 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: this paints you in a completely different light than what 761 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: is portrayed on Televion yeah. 762 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 5: I wonder he like wolf did poorly. I didn't. I 763 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 5: didn't catch that one. Oh man, really yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 764 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 5: you got it. 765 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: You gotta watch the highlights of that one. That's pretty 766 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: funn I think he's also it's him, and also the 767 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: other person is I think Senator Mark Kelly. It looks like, yeah, 768 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. 769 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean I remember that being like one of the 770 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: rationales for like why he might be a good host 771 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: is that he did well in Celebrity Jeopardy. The fact 772 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers is at twelve thousand, eight hundred and 773 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: Senator Mark Kelly is at eight thousand and six hundred. 774 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 2: An astronaut, you know, yeah, and then mister wonderful's ass 775 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: he owes money. Yeah. 776 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: And then Scott Adams of course wrote on Twitter that 777 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: he's canceling all New York City business trips until the 778 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: Trump property seizure is reversed. Also, no new businesses with 779 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: New York entities. 780 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: So oh, people were did the public did the publishing 781 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: industry move towns? But we'll see they don't fucking work 782 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 2: with him anymore? Oh right, right, right right. 783 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: People questioned why he would even be going to New York. 784 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: He defensively said, everyone in my line of work has 785 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: regular NYC trips, But since his strip was dropped by 786 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: its distributor after he went on a bunch of racist tirades, 787 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: his line of work these days seems to be making 788 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: YouTube videos and solicitening crowd funding money with cartooning lessons 789 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: and a new I guess there's a new like red 790 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: band trailer version of Dilbert that you can get a 791 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: version of Dilbert Spicy Dilbert. 792 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know. 793 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 5: I yeah. I got my start here in New York 794 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 5: in public radio and worked, you know, for WMC. And 795 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 5: like this story of like people claiming to leave New 796 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 5: York and take their business elsewhere. I mean, it's like 797 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 5: the oldest story in the book. And I mean it 798 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 5: often plays out with like New Jersey and New York 799 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 5: and New Jersey cutting its taxes to try and lower 800 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 5: businesses away, and you know, it's occasionally happened, but it 801 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 5: just it does not happen. People do not follow up 802 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 5: on this. I mean, I think for the obvious reasons, 803 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 5: but it's like this is the cultural capital, this is 804 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 5: the human capital. Like people do not realize that, like 805 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 5: this is where the people who actually you will need 806 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 5: to populate a lot of your businesses are And I 807 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 5: just like, I don't know how what game people think 808 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 5: they're playing when time and time again, you know, even 809 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 5: like you know, post pandemic, this whole story about office 810 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 5: occupancy being a huge problem in New York, it's like 811 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 5: bouncing back in the last six months in a way 812 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 5: that people didn't really you know, it is starting to 813 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 5: bounce back. I just I just think people don't realize 814 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: that they're never going to win by like playing this 815 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 5: game with New York City. 816 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and also just having like the least principled 817 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: boycott ever to be like, and I'm standing on like 818 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: this is this is this is a very like highly 819 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: moral ground. These are this is why I'm saying we 820 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: shouldn't do it, Like because even truckers were also getting 821 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 2: in on this too. They started grumbling about how they 822 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: could bring New York City to its knees over this 823 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: shit by boycotting the city. 824 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 5: One trucker on TikTok. Maybe. I mean there's a media 825 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 5: element here too, right that it's like, yeah, we put 826 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 5: a spotlight on these people and they're grumbling, and then 827 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 5: we don't actually follow up on their actual. 828 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 2: Because yeah, there's this guy like you're referencing Chicago Ray 829 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: on TikTok and he said, I've been on the radio 830 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: talking to drivers for about the past hour, and I've 831 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: talked to about ten drivers. 832 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 5: Uh huh. 833 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: And he said, I don't know how far across the 834 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 2: country this is or how many truckers are going to 835 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: start denying loads going to New York City, but I'll 836 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: tell you what. You fuck around and find out. And 837 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: two days later he took the video down and folded 838 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 2: like Origami, and then he said, quote, just to be clear, 839 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm no figurehead of any movement. I'm not leading, nor 840 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: have I encouraged or am I encouraging anyone to do 841 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: anything other than what they were doing prior to their 842 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 2: ruling Friday in New York City. And they also mentioned 843 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: that his grandson saw his shit go viral on TikTok, 844 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 2: and I think presumably maybe didn't want to embarrass him 845 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 2: any further, because it's probably bad enough that his grandpa 846 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: goes by Chicago Ray. Other truckers just out of like 847 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: they immediately dismissed this boycott. They're like, dude, I haven't 848 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: heard a single thing about anything being close to an 849 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: organized boycott or strike or whatever. And it seems to 850 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 2: be like there is organic anger over New York City 851 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 2: from truckers, but that seems to stem from the fact 852 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: that a lot of trucks, like truckers are now made 853 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: to pay tolls in the city, and they're more like 854 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: that would probably be a bigger reason where you'd see 855 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 2: something organized from truckers, not because they're all like, it's 856 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: not fair that the guy who did fraud and hasn't 857 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: denied that it was fraud. He just said that he 858 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: has a right to do it. I don't like that 859 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 2: they're enforcing the law against this person. 860 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: Still, I mean, that's a pretty big statement coming from 861 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean that that's the he covered Chicago territory for 862 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: all the rays. 863 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he is Chicago Ray. 864 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: He's the ray for all. 865 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: Of What does New York Ray have to say? 866 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: Oh? 867 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 5: I know exactly was that was what. 868 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: It was on my mind. But maybe maybe. 869 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 5: They famous ray versus Chicago Ray. 870 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 1: There's so many rays in New York claiming supremacy over 871 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: one another. The first famous rays fa. 872 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 5: I think there's a there's a pizza shop I've seen 873 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 5: called like original Famous Rays. Yeah, just like and you know, 874 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 5: you look at that sign and you're like, there was 875 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 5: just like thirty years worth of backstory, collection of words. 876 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: The original not like those busters over one block up. 877 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: I think they're like a dozen that claimed to be 878 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: the original Famous Rays. But yeah, god, the ray Wars 879 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: of the nineteen seventies or whenever the fuck that happened, 880 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Famous Rays. I don't know what 881 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: they're famous for. I don't think it's their pizza, because 882 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: that is probably I'd say, like Famous Rays is the 883 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: most mediocre of the New York pizzas, Like it's it's 884 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: good because like it's. 885 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 5: Which what are you thinking about? 886 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the one on like in the thirties 887 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: on the East Side. That was the one that was 888 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: like close to my the apartment of like that I 889 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: spent most time at at that time. So and it 890 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: was not good. But yeah, it's also highly variable too, 891 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: which not great for a pizza chain. All right, should 892 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: we talk measles huge comeback with a with a possible 893 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: exception of justin Timberlake's album, The worst comeback of twenty 894 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: twenty four has been measles. Right now, there's a measles 895 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: outbreak at a South Florida elementary school. 896 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: Uh oh, miles, have you been thinking why am I 897 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: on trial? Well? Have you been hanging out at any elementary? 898 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 5: This is where that this is where a court order 899 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 5: actually really is saving your butt. 900 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: Here. 901 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: The World Health Organization just warned that last year's measles 902 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: cases saw a seventy nine percent increase from twenty twenty two, 903 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: which is pretty bad for a disease that was declared 904 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: eliminated from the US in the year two thousand. The 905 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: big problem here, of course, is that vaccination rates are falling. 906 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one twenty two school year, an estimated 907 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: ninety three percent of the country's four million kindergarten children 908 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 1: had recorded getting their recommended vaccines for guarding against measles, tetanus, polio, 909 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: and arrisella. That which might not sound bad, but that 910 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: number was down from ninety four percent the previous year 911 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: ninety five percent the year before that. It also means 912 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: that nearly two hundred and fifty thousand kindergarteners are potentially 913 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: not protected against measles, which. 914 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 5: I think you mean two hundred and fifty thousand kindergarteners 915 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 5: are are now open for natural immunity. 916 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly to be naturally immunized. 917 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 918 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been immunized. That's what That's what my kindergartner 919 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: asked when I said, wait, did we get you your vaccine? Yeah, 920 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: that I've been immunized. 921 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember those three weeks of school you missed 922 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 5: you were getting. 923 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, like any vaccines, you know, it's not one. 924 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: So you need large vaccination numbers to act as a 925 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: firewall to keep it from spreading. And we are trending 926 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. There have been reports and measles 927 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: outbreaks in recent years prior to the pandemic, like the 928 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: one in Disneyland, but following the COVID shit show, things 929 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: seem to be getting worse thanks to what they're calling 930 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: spillover a hesitancy, which is, you know, fear of the 931 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine causing people to avoid other vaccines. 932 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 5: So there's a dynamic here that obviously played out during COVID, 933 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 5: but like there's a distinction between vaccine skepticism, which I 934 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 5: think is you know, worth interrogating, and it's pretty it's 935 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 5: pretty awful as well. But then also this downplaying of 936 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 5: the disease itself. And I mean that's one of the 937 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 5: you know, many things in the around COVID that just 938 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 5: made so thishearts like people were twisting themselves into logic 939 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 5: to then just say like, oh, actually, you're not that sick. 940 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 5: And I think that's starting to happen here too, where 941 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 5: people will be like, oh, measles is not that bad. 942 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 5: It's not just I'm skeptical vaccines for all these reasons 943 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 5: that I've deluded myself. But it's more of that next 944 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 5: logical step is than to say that these diseases aren't bad. 945 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's natural. It's from the earth. Man. What's more 946 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: natural than measles? 947 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 2: It's measles, don't the black plague? 948 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? 949 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 950 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: The I mean, so there are a lot of people 951 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: actively doing what you're describing, downplaying the severity of measles, 952 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: like the president of the Children's Health Defense, which sounds 953 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: great name, sounds like a name that like ten years ago, 954 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: I'd be like, sign me up Children's Health Defense, But now, like, 955 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: knowing what we know, I'm like, this was founded by 956 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 1: RFK Junior, wasn't it? And guess what it was? She said, 957 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: it's not a super severe, serious illness. When you're a child, 958 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: it's a couple of days in spots and then you 959 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: move on, and kids love spots, like Mike loves Polka dots. 960 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: She didn't say that last part, but like that's basically 961 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: trying to make it into like a fun a fun thing, yeah, 962 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: that you know, we shouldn't be too worried about. Unfortunately, 963 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: there is a type of thing called a wellness influencer, 964 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: and they've been promoting the idea of measles parties to 965 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: expose kids and just like get it over with, which 966 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: is a very dangerous relic of the past that largely 967 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: ended with the availability of vaccines and now is coming 968 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,959 Speaker 1: back because. 969 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 2: Do you know what's in the vaccine? Can? Because then yeah, 970 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: no further questions, your answer. Do you know what's in 971 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 2: your diet cream? Soda? You're drinking right now? 972 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: Found com and soda, No further question. 973 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you're on your questions, you answer your question. 974 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's just like it's so wild too, 975 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 2: because like every time, like the so all of this 976 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: started because of that fucking stupid debunked medical journal post 977 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: about the guy who is trying to link the MMR 978 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 2: vaccine to autism, and every journal who published it had 979 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 2: to retract it. They had to be like, this guy's 980 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 2: a fucking fraud. And it was exposed that he only 981 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: started doing this for his own personal gain because he 982 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: had a financial stake in an alternative MMR vaccine, and 983 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 2: that was like his way to be like, oh man, 984 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 2: this will get that. This is the best, this is 985 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 2: the best marketing ever. And now look at where we are. 986 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, you have people constantly being like I just 987 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: don't know. Like I know people who've said to me 988 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: like I just don't know, like what will happen if 989 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 2: I take the COVID vaccine or whatever. I'm like, what 990 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: are the possibilities that you've heard of? And it's like, well, 991 00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: I just don't know. 992 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: You just don't know. I can't predict the future. It's 993 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 1: just like Okay, yeah, no, that I guess that's true. 994 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: And you know how that we can do to argue 995 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: with that. So you know how you'll react if you 996 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: have COVID? Do you know know absolutely for certain that 997 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: there's a one hundred percent chance that I won't have 998 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: a bad reaction to this vaccine. It's like, you know 999 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: or have the numbers where here's the percentage chance that 1000 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: you'll have a bad reaction with the vaccine, and then 1001 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: here's the percentage chants that without it you're going to 1002 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: get a serious case of COVID that will kill you. 1003 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 5: And then one other question, just as I weigh my options, 1004 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 5: but like, what are you know at the measles party? 1005 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 5: Like what are the snacks? 1006 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: Right? They are used lollipops. They're lollipops that you comes in, 1007 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: lick a lolly, leave it at the door. Then you 1008 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 2: reach in a bag, take one out, like it, put 1009 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 2: it back in, and we do that about for about 1010 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 2: five rounds, and then we're okay. 1011 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 5: New York I measles outbreak in twenty nineteen I think 1012 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 5: it was, and the measles parties thing came up, and 1013 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 5: I just found our is written around that period where 1014 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 5: just my heart goes out to the reporter who has 1015 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 5: to write an article headlined, Yeah, why measles parties are 1016 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 5: a bad idea for parents? Yes, And they have to 1017 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 5: call up like a very credential person from the CDC 1018 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 5: and ask them should you have measles parties? And then 1019 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 5: they're like doctor from the CDC has to give a 1020 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 5: quote saying you should not have measos parties because quote, 1021 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 5: vaccines are very effective. Right, yeah, you have to write 1022 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 5: up this whole article, but yeah, you shouldn't have a 1023 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 5: measless party. 1024 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, then they have to like write a first person account. 1025 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1026 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 1: The clink of the glasses and hum of children chattering 1027 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: with one another. 1028 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 5: Set the scene here. You want to go gonzo on this, 1029 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 5: I think I need you to go hunder s Thompson 1030 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 5: on this one. 1031 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: And then our junior himself, of course then a major 1032 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 1: source of measles misinformation. He once claimed that chicken soup 1033 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: was more effective than the vaccine. There, he is your 1034 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: presidential candidate. Everybody are FK Junior? 1035 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 1036 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: The people on the right are arguing, of course that 1037 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: mules vaccine, not really talking about the musles vaccine so 1038 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: much as just blaming any outbreaks on migrants being allowed 1039 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: into the country by Joe Biden. 1040 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, yeah yeah so but I also just 1041 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 2: like how there was like in back, like when there 1042 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 2: was an outbreak at like an immigration detention center, what 1043 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 2: a euphemistic name for that facility like that, They're like, oh, man, 1044 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: like it's because of the migrants in there. We're getting 1045 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 2: all this, we're getting like all this outbreak happened, and 1046 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 2: it's because a lot of the staff. There were plenty 1047 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 2: many staff members that refused to get vaccinated anyway, just 1048 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 2: a snaky in its own tail at this point. But hey, 1049 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 2: it's Joe Biden. I wonder if they have the what 1050 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 2: else they can blame on? I guess they there. Really, 1051 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 2: there's no there's no end to what conservatives will blame 1052 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 2: migrants for, like anything. No, Like yeah, like Taylor Swift 1053 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: is popular because of migrants. They're actually the ones playing 1054 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,720 Speaker 2: her songs, and that's why she's so popular, and actually 1055 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 2: migrants are responsible for you know whatever, whatever the outrage 1056 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 2: your is. 1057 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, Jody, it has been a pleasure 1058 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 1: having you as always on the daily Zeitgeist. 1059 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 2: Where can people find you? 1060 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 5: In fully, well, it is always a pleasure to come on. 1061 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 5: I really am in awe and you've set the bar. 1062 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 5: You set the bar at the beginning of this show 1063 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 5: for the amount of singing, so I just expect every 1064 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,439 Speaker 5: time I'm on whether it'd be more and more. 1065 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1066 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 5: People can find me, you know you you thank you 1067 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 5: for saying all my credentials at the top there, but 1068 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm still making The Puzzler. That's very fun. 1069 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 5: People should go check out The Puzzler. It's a daily 1070 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 5: puzzle podcast hosted by A. J. Jacobs. I think he's 1071 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 5: been on. Yeah, I think it was on with do 1072 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 5: you guys. I think we're gonna try and get you 1073 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 5: guys on the Puzzler sometime soon. So you know, it's 1074 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 5: very fun. So people should keep saying that. 1075 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'll be pave it when I'm on, but 1076 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 2: you know, I guess we'll see. Yeah, we actually get that. 1077 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 3: You know great. 1078 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: Is there a work in media that you've been enjoying? 1079 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 5: Oh, you know I ripped through that that Hulu FX 1080 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,919 Speaker 5: series about Truman Capoti. I don't know if you saw 1081 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 5: that Capo the Swans. The Swans, Yeah, like I yeah, 1082 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 5: just this past week basically I watched like One a 1083 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 5: night and got through the whole first season and it 1084 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 5: was great. It's like very dishy and easy to watch 1085 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 5: and just like an incredible lineup of actresses and actors. 1086 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 5: And then it's directed by Gus Van Sant, who's the 1087 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 5: name I haven't heard in a while, and so that yeah, yeah, 1088 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 5: it's like it's like kind of beautiful and interestingly directed, 1089 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 5: So I don't know. It was very fun to watch 1090 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 5: Amazing Miles. 1091 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 2: Where can people find you? What's working media you've been 1092 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 2: enjoying at Miles of Gray, at the app based platforms, 1093 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 2: Find Jack and I on the basketball play Yes Miles 1094 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,760 Speaker 2: and Jock boosties, and if you'd like Nady day fiance, 1095 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 2: catch me on four to twenty day fiance. A tweet 1096 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 2: I like it's a quote tweet by at Obra de Arte. 1097 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 2: I think is what that handle is. The first is 1098 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 2: just a highlighted I think part of a Wikipedia article. 1099 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 2: It says William Shakespeare wore hoop earrings in his spare time. 1100 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 2: At that time, it was customary for poets and religious 1101 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 2: people to walk with hoop earrings in their ears. And 1102 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,839 Speaker 2: a heart Day tweeted he was Latina with the big 1103 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 2: ass hoops. That's great, very good. 1104 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. 1105 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,280 Speaker 1: A couple of tweets I've been enjoying America's lounge singer 1106 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: at kranng T Nelson tweeted, one of life's little joys 1107 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: is when you don't watch a show because you don't 1108 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: feel like it, and then when the season is over, 1109 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: everyone agrees that it sucked. Yes, I was right to 1110 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: not watch that show. I chose not to because I 1111 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 1: am wise, and that's just a feeling that I identify with. 1112 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, exactly exactly. I knew you were gonna hate 1113 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 2: the ending, and that's why I didn't watch it. 1114 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: And then Mike f At Deputy Warlock tweeted, when people 1115 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: get food poisoning, they always tell you it came out 1116 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: of both ends. There's no need to malign the ass 1117 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: in that scenario. The food was going to come out 1118 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 1: of there regardless of whether it was poisonous. 1119 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 2: Leave the ass alone. Okay, yes, that's right. 1120 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeikeeist. We're 1121 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeichist on Instagram, we have a Facebook 1122 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where 1123 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,439 Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link 1124 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, 1125 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. 1126 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: Miles Wethong, do we think people might enjoy it? 1127 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 2: I mean we were just talking about vinyl and just 1128 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 2: classic vinyl sounds, and I just think of break dancing 1129 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: and DJ yes, yes, the vanility of it all and 1130 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 2: this one the poets of rhythm. This track is called 1131 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 2: Augusta Ga and it's just one of those seminal b 1132 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 2: boy breaker tracks. Got a great drum break in it 1133 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 2: and look, you know, sound cool at your next party 1134 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 2: by saying like, oh, this is the phot's a rhythm, 1135 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,439 Speaker 2: Well goes to Georgia. Yeah it is, so check it out. 1136 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah bitch it is duh. Anyways, you can find that 1137 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: song in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production 1138 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 1139 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 1140 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: That is gonna do it for us this morning, back 1141 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what tis trending and we 1142 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,720 Speaker 1: will talk to you all then Bye. 1143 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 2: Bite