1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast d AM 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: supernatural and the unexplained. Get ready now for Shades of 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. You've heard 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: me say often that life is an education for the 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: soul and that your life matters. What I don't share 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: so much is I think the currency of the soul 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: is being of service to other people, making a difference. 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be big things, it can be 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: small things. Even if you're checking out groceries at the market, 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: you may notice the cashiers having a bad day. You 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: might pay her or him a little compliment. I've talked 24 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: to enough people who have had near death experiences who say, 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: after going through a life review and living from the 26 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: perspective of another person and feeling how your action or 27 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: what you said made them feel, we end up seeing 28 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: the ripple effect of our actions. Many people say it's 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: like an omnimax screen with many episodes of our life 30 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: playing all at once, and somehow our divine soul can 31 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: understand them all and realize the difference we've made on 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: this earth. Today, I want to share with you a 33 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: lady who's making a big difference, and yes, it came 34 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: out of the passing of her own son. Before I 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: tell you who she is, I want to read to 36 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: you this story, and then I will tie it all 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: together for you, I promise. I am a mother whose 38 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: daughter was brutally murdered. I'm not a professional writer and 39 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: English is my second language. I am just one bereaved 40 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: mother with a broken heart, living my life that's been 41 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: forever changed, and trying to help those who are thrown 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: onto a path of life that feels impossible to survive. 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: It is my wish that my story will become part 44 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: of someone else's survival guide and give people a better 45 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: understanding of how they can help their families friends who 46 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: are suffering the loss of their loved ones. Odd things 47 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: started happening soon after Alena passed. I remember how shocking 48 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: it was when the big portrait of Elena fell off 49 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: the TV stand where we had temporarily put it before 50 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: hanging it on the wall. It just randomly fell, as 51 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: if someone had pushed it off the stand. We had 52 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: a very nice wall clock in the dining room. It 53 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: was a housewarming gift from our friends. Every hour it 54 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: played a song by the Beatles, and the little figures danced. 55 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: One day, about six months before Elena died, the clock 56 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: stopped running. My husband's uncle, who could repair watches and clocks, tried, 57 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: but was unable to fix our clock due to a 58 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: complicated mechanism that required replacement parts he couldn't find anywhere. 59 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: For a few months, it just hung silently on the wall. 60 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: One evening, a few two days after her funeral, my 61 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: husband and I were quietly sitting in the living room. 62 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: Suddenly we heard the music play. We both got chills. 63 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: The sad strains of Yesterday by the Beatles were coming 64 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: from our clock. We got silent for a moment. Then 65 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: we ran to the dining room to check the clock 66 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: and make sure we were not losing our minds. The 67 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: clock was running without blinking. We stared at the mysterious 68 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: clock and watched its figures dance to the music of 69 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: the well known song Yesterday by the Beatles. On another night, 70 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 2: I was slowly walking upstairs carrying my phone. I felt 71 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: physically and emotionally exhausted. I could hardly breathe and had 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: no strength to lift my legs to take the next 73 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: step up. Suddenly, a voice screamed out of my phone. 74 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Now? Can you hear me? It 75 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: seemed the volume was at its highest. I flinched and 76 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: almost dropped my phone. Despite my weakness, I bolted up 77 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: up the stairs and tried to shut off the phone 78 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: with my shaking fingers. I sat on my bed and 79 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: with wide eyes, stared at my phone. My heart was pumping. 80 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: I had no idea what had happened. I thought I 81 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: must have touched an app and started some random video. 82 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: To my surprise, the face of singer Adam Lambert was 83 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: the first thing that popped up. Elena knew that I 84 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: was a big fan. Seeing his face right after having 85 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: heard such an odd message from my phone intrigued me. 86 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: Adam was wearing a red hot leather jacket and holding 87 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: a purple microphone. I pushed the play button and heard Mama. 88 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: I immediately got chills all over my body. He was 89 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: singing a song by Freddie Mercury. A couple of weeks 90 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: after we lost to Elena, I woke up one morning 91 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: and wanted to check my Facebook. The first thing I 92 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: saw was a post by a photographer. He was just 93 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: sharing a picture of the most vibrant rainbow that he 94 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: had ever seen. It was a double rainbow that looked beautiful. 95 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: In no time, I instinctively shifted my eyes to the 96 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: very top of that rainbow, hoping to see my angel 97 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: daughter in the sky, And in no time I did 98 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: see her. To my own shocking surprise, I saw the 99 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: figure of my daughter's upper body. I could clearly see 100 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: her face and her long hair. With her left hand, 101 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: she was holding her head tilted to the side. Two 102 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: huge white wings were visible behind her figure. My husband 103 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: was awake, so I quickly shoved my phone into his 104 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: hands and demanded he look and tell me what he saw. 105 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: He said, I see Elena. I immediately felt some relief. 106 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: I was glad I had not lost my mind and 107 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: I was not hallucinating. What I just read to you 108 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: was literally two pages from a four hundred and thirty 109 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: eight page book called Gathering at the Doorway, an anthology 110 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: of signs, of visits and messages from the Afterlife, all 111 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: put together by Camille Dan. Camille is the person I 112 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: was referring to that is making a global difference, and 113 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: I want to share with you her story. Here's Camille. 114 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Shortly after Aaron transitioned, I started listening to your show. 115 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I know there's been so 116 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: much hard work that you've done. If you wouldn't mind 117 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: talking about your story and how it all began, and 118 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: tell us about Aaron and just share. 119 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity and 120 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: for all you've done for me. I really related to 121 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: your show the minute I started listening. A friend told 122 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: me about it, and I was a former skeptic myself, 123 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: so I really started on my journey when I lost 124 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: my eldest son, Aaron. Prior to that, I was a 125 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: nurse and you know, pretty science based person. Although I 126 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: had had some experience and listen to stories from people 127 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: about their contact with spirit and even witnessed some amazing 128 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: near death experiences in my nursing practice and had patients 129 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: tell me about them. After, I continued to believe that 130 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: it was something science would discover, there was some scientific 131 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: explanation for what's happening in the temporo parietal lobe of 132 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: the brain. 133 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: You know. 134 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: And in May, actually I lost my mother two days 135 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: before Mother's Day, and then four months later my son. 136 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, thank you, thank you. I went into 137 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: a state of shock. It was so traumatic for me. 138 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: My son and I were so close in life. Aaron 139 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: was a brilliant person. I used to call him an 140 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: old soul. He would come out with stuff at literally 141 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: two years old that I would think, where did a 142 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: two year old come up with this wisdom? 143 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: You know? 144 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: Going forward, we spoke every day on the phone. He 145 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: did go through some difficult times with addiction. He had 146 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: a highly sensitive soul. He had so much empathy for people, 147 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: and I think it was a self medication thing for 148 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: him that led to an addiction, and tragically he died 149 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: in a fall as a result of ingestion of fentannel, 150 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: which he didn't know. He told me he had taken 151 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: a sleeping pill, and I know he didn't know because 152 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: I know he had gone through rehab and he knew 153 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: everything about it and he was doing really well. We 154 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: had pizza at our favorite restaurant three nights before. Three 155 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: days later I got the news no parent ever wants 156 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: to get. And then, not long after funeral, a friend 157 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: of mine who has talked a lot about her experiences 158 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: with spirit contact with her family. In fact, she contributed 159 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: a chapter. Her name is Arlene. She came over with 160 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: a note she had written, and she claimed that she 161 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 3: believed the note was she channeled Aaron through automatic writing. 162 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: And she gave me the note, and when I read 163 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: the note, there were details that there's no way she 164 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: could have known. But still in shock, I didn't understand 165 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: what was happening. The next day we had to meet 166 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: with the detectives on the case, and one of the 167 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: detectives said something that was word for word in the 168 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: note Arlene had given me the day before. I forget 169 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: everything else, he said. So from that point on, I 170 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: started to find a lot of comfort in hearing about 171 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: spirit contact and how is this all possible? And I 172 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: started reading books. Arlene recommended try listening to podcasts, and 173 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: she told me about yours, and I went on your podcast. 174 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: That was a turning point for me in my grief journey. 175 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 3: The synchronicities that have occurred since I started to awaken 176 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: to contact with spirit and what I've learned is just remarkable, 177 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: And in the span of time that I've learned it, 178 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: my biggest teacher has been Aaron. So my first book, 179 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: Aaron's Energy, actually started as my grief journal. I had 180 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: read that journaling was comforting for people and helpful to 181 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: people and cathartic and therapeutic, and I thought, Okay, I'll 182 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: try that. Shortly after I started, we decided to go 183 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: to the lake house and get out of the city, 184 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: have some quiet time, some communion with nature. I had 185 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: also read that was good for someone to do in 186 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: early grief. As we were drying up to the cottage, 187 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: it was October. I was the passenger in the car, 188 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: and I was looking at all the beautiful October fall leaves. 189 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 3: The changing colors, how gorgeous they are that the highway 190 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: is lined with forests on the way up. And as 191 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: soon as I thought about this beautiful site, a tidal 192 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: wave of grief hit me. My first thought was, my 193 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: son is never going to see anything like this again. 194 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: As soon as I thought that, I heard my son's 195 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: voice say to me, I do see it, mom. It 196 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: was as if he was in the car with us, 197 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: like it was so like his voice, and it wasn't 198 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: in my head. I heard it. 199 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: There's rarely a good time to take a break. But 200 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: there's so much more to this story with Camille Dan, 201 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the 202 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Afterlife on the iHeart Rate and Coast to Coast AM 203 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network. 204 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: Stay right there, there's more, Sandra Common write out. 205 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: The Internet is an extraordinary resource that links our children 206 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: to a world of information, experiences, and ideas. It also 207 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: can expose them to risk. Teach your children the basic 208 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: safety rules of the virtual world. Our children are everything. 209 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Do everything for them. 210 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 5: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 211 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 5: Paranormal Podcast Network. Check out all our shows on the 212 00:13:47,200 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you find your favorite shows. 213 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain 214 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: and we're listening to the story of Mom Camille Dan 215 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: after the passing of her son Aaron. Last we left her, 216 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: she was driving up to her cabin seeing the beautiful 217 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: fall colors and she hears the voice of her son. 218 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: As we were driving up to the cottage. It was 219 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: October and I was the passenger in the car, and 220 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: I was looking at all the beautiful october fall leaves, 221 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: the changing colors, how gorgeous they are. The highway is 222 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: lined with forests, And as soon as I thought about 223 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: this beautiful site, a tidal wave of grief hit me. 224 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: My first thought was, my son is never going to 225 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: see anything like this again. As soon as I thought, 226 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: I heard my son's voice say to me, I do 227 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: see it, Mom. It was as if he was in 228 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: the car with us, like it was so like his 229 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: voice and it wasn't in my head. I heard it, 230 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: and I looked and nobody else heard it, and he said, 231 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: I do see it, Mom. I see the colors. I 232 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: see the leaves, But the colors I see aren't the 233 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: way you see them. He said, I see the energy 234 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: that the leaves are emitting colors that I can't describe 235 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: to you. They're beyond description. And I just sat there 236 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: and I didn't tell anyone because I thought they're going 237 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: to think I'm crazy. I'm making this up in my head. 238 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: I'm hearing things. We went up to the cottage and 239 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: he started talking to me more about physics, like how 240 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,479 Speaker 3: energy works, what is afterlife is like, and he combined 241 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: what he was telling me was signs, some of them 242 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: I was to get photos of, and I thought, wow, 243 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: this is really incredible. Well then I got this idea 244 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: maybe I should record all of this for the family, 245 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: you know. And then I came back and I was 246 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: telling my friend again about this, and she said, you 247 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: should do a book. And I said, oh, nobody's going 248 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: to care about reading my stuff, like this is just 249 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: my stuff, and she said, oh no, I think a 250 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: lot of people will care about it. One day, after 251 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: I had gone quite a ways with my journaling, I 252 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: opened a spam email, which I never do. We know 253 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: not to open spam emails, but I don't know why. 254 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: I clicked on it. It opened and it was my 255 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: horoscope and it said you're going to turn your manuscript 256 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: into a book, and I would oh, okay, yeah. My 257 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: first thought was okay, erin I will. And I didn't 258 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: ever write a book before in my life, didn't know 259 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: what I was doing, so I googled it and oh, 260 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: you can actually do this yourself. So I just kept 261 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 3: following what the instructions told me to do and Kindle 262 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: direct Publishing and I had entered and next thing I knew, 263 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: I got a response, your book is available on Amazon. 264 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and it was. It just kept going from there. 265 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: The signs just kept getting more profound. 266 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: These signs do you want to share? 267 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes. Signs seemed to occur a lot in synchrony 268 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: with events, So signs can be birds. Here's an example. 269 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 3: I started noticing cardinals coming into the backyard all the time, 270 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 3: and sometimes they would come in groups of three, and 271 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: one time two males and a female came together. And 272 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: I had lost my father the following year, and I 273 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: thought two males and a female my father, Aaron, and 274 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: my mother. And they would come at times when I 275 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: was either thinking of them or when I was doing 276 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: something like writing a journal entry or communicating with someone 277 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: about spirit. I could hear them loudly outside the window. 278 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: Another time, we were in Florida and we were walking 279 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: along the beach and you know those little sandpipers that 280 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: skidter along the water's edge. They do that in big groups. 281 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: One broke away from the group and started following us 282 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: down the beach. And I was looking at this little 283 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 3: tiny sandpiper getting farther and farther away from his group 284 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: alongside of us, and I'm looking. Finally I turned, I 285 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: said Aaron. He said, yeah, Mom. I said, are you 286 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: the bird? He said, no, I have melded my energy 287 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: with the bird. Their eyes are our eyes, their ears 288 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: are our ears. 289 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: He said. 290 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: We can check in on you. We can show you 291 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: where present, and if you didn't notice the bird, we 292 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: can drop a feather and let you know we were there. 293 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: I mean, the messages are incredible. One time I was 294 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: at the lake and I was feeling sad and really 295 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: missing him. I asked him for a sign. He sent 296 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: me them pretty quickly after I would ask. He still does. 297 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes he tells me I'm busy, mom, I'll be back later. 298 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: He's busy doing a lot of things. Because he tells 299 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: me that across the veil. He can be in multiple 300 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: places at the same time. So if he's busy looking 301 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: in on someone else or having another experience, or melding 302 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: with an animal, or melding with another person, or creating 303 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: an experience for him himself that he wants to have 304 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: in that moment, he'll be back. He's always around. Well, 305 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: this time, I was looking out over the lake feeling 306 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: really sad, and I looked up in the sky. He 307 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: leaves me a lot of messages in the clouds, like 308 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 3: his name, the first letter of his name. I have 309 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: photos of those in both books I have in Aaron's 310 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: Energy and in Gathering at the Doorway. I continued my 311 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: journaling as my chapter in Gathering at the Doorway, because 312 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: this all kept continuing and, as I said, getting more 313 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: and more profound and deeper in meaning and learning for me. Anyway, 314 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: So I'm looking up at the clouds, and all of 315 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: a sudden, just a group of clouds started kind of swirling. 316 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: Wasn't a windy day. I'm watching this group of clouds swirling. 317 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: Next thing I know, it looks like it's forming into letters. 318 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: I had my phone with me and I got a 319 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: photo of it. The letters say very clearly, I love 320 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: you In clouds, I love you, and the oh of 321 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: love is a heart shape and there's a photo of 322 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: it in the book. It's not photoshopped. It actually happened. 323 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: That was the most profound cloud message, a sentence in 324 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: the clouds. So Aaron had told me, and I really 325 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: believe looking back now, the way he gave me the 326 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: information would build on itself, so the cloud messages. What 327 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: he told me about that was that they are able 328 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: to move particles around, especially particles like what exists in clouds. 329 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: They use their energy. With their energy, they can push 330 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: or draw particles together to form images that we're able 331 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: to see, and we have to be part of that. 332 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: It has meaning because we were present. One time when 333 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: I asked him to do a cloud message for me, 334 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: he said, Mom, the amount of micro and macro events 335 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: that have to occur simultaneously and you have to be 336 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: present for that to occur. You'll never understand, never fully understand. 337 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: But eventually I got to see Sonia Andaldi's work when 338 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: she described the vapor chamber that she uses, where spirit 339 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: energy can move vapor particles around using energy and light. 340 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: Light can become a particle, Light energy can be a wave, 341 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: how she has discovered this to occur and create images 342 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: in her laboratory is not only astounding, but it's evident 343 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: because Aaron told me about how they can do that 344 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: before I even ever heard of Sonya Ronaldi. Here's another 345 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: synchronicity that occurred. I had invited Sonya to join in 346 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: the group with the anthology, and she responded right away 347 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 3: and sent me this beautiful chapter which is also in 348 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: our anthology. And then within a couple of weeks maximum 349 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: I saw that there's a documentary coming out about Sonya 350 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: Ronaldi in her work that you produced with Robert Lyon. 351 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: And at about fifty eight minutes into the documentary, there's 352 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: a trans image of Aaron that appeared in Sonia's laboratory. 353 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: I just about passed out. I couldn't believe it. I 354 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: was one hundred percent an image of erin no question. 355 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: I sent it out to family and friends and where 356 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: did that come from? I said, it came from a 357 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: woman in Brazil's laboratory. She is able to cause these 358 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: images to occur from spirit, and it wasn't a photo 359 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 3: of Aaron I had, so it's not like, you know, 360 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: she could have ever seen a photo of erin before 361 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: or had one. It looked like he was about sixteen. 362 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: He looked beautiful and healthy. It was almost like a 363 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: combination of photos of him in one anyway, I got 364 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: so excited about it before the end of the documentary, 365 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: I started typing a message to Sonia, Aaron is in 366 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: your documentary? 367 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: Just well. 368 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: Next thing I know, I started sharing with people in 369 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: the parents healing groups that I belonged to, like helping 370 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: parents heal, and with some friends, and I found out 371 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: that they can also find images of their loved ones 372 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: from Sonia's catalog of unknowns. They went and looked at 373 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: another number of us now have discovered images so beautiful. 374 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: And Roseanne was in the documentary, so she's in the anthology. 375 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: And Ellie Shaykat, a friend who I contacted, found her 376 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: daughter and she's also contributed a chapter to the anthology. 377 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 3: So you see how things have went from one step 378 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: to the next. And I'm looking at now we're having 379 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: a conversation, and you're the person that I first heard 380 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 3: and started this whole journey with. And it's just been 381 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: a journey of miracles, you know. Just the fact that 382 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: I only started writing this anthology in October and it's 383 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: already available. It's already compiled with forty authors from around 384 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: the world. 385 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: This is a good place for us to take our 386 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: break if you're new to Sonia in all these work, 387 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: I recently did an episode on three Brazilian mediums and 388 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: I created a web page so you can learn more 389 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: about them after you hear the episode. So be sure 390 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: to go back and listen to that. Let's head to 391 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: the break. We'll be right back. 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I'm Sandra Champlaine 418 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: and you're listening to the conversation I had with Camille Dan. 419 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 2: She self published her first book, Aaron's Energy, after the 420 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: passing of her son Aaron. Remember Camille was a nurse 421 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: with a scientific and analytical background and never believed in 422 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: any of this. Now she has compiled a book over 423 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: an inch thick with over forty stories. 424 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: I got the idea that you know, I think we 425 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: should be sharing these stories. We should get people to 426 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: share because what I found along my journey is the 427 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: minute you start talking about this stuff, somebody tells you 428 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: they see dimes, they see feathers, They believe that it 429 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: might be, but they just don't explore it. They keep 430 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: it to themselves, maybe for one reason or another. Maybe 431 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: they think people won't accept when they hear that, or coincidences. 432 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 3: A lot of people say, a lot of people explain 433 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: things away. I did that, definitely did that. Well, now 434 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: I look at it the complete opposite way. What are 435 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: the odds that something would happen at exactly the right time, 436 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: in exactly the right place when I was there. You 437 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: can't calculate the odds of that. My mind is really open. 438 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: And then for all that has occurred and in so 439 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: many ways, and we've shared it in the book with 440 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: all of the authors, the signs and the synchronicities and 441 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: synchronicities that have occurred with authors and other authors in 442 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: the book who didn't even know each other before that 443 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: have occurred with friends and family of theirs that didn't 444 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: even know that they believed in these things before. The 445 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: book is full of evidence, and I'm rambling along here. 446 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: But it's good rambling. I've never known a person, tomil 447 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: that had a dream to have this done so quickly. 448 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: Over forty authors in it talk about some of the 449 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: people and maybe some of the stories. 450 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: Well, one of the forwards is your beautiful forward. And 451 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 3: you know, everything I read from you and watch and 452 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: listen is so inspiring and affirming for me and for 453 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: so many others. I've joined your Sunday gathering, and you know, 454 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: it's not that long ago that this all happened to me, 455 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: and I still seek out comfort and I find it 456 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: so comforting. So I thank you for that. So in 457 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: another chapter, Melissa Ralston, who I never knew before from Alabama. 458 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: I live in Toronto, Canada, and a mutual friend here 459 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: said I have this friend in Alabama. I think maybe 460 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: you might have a lot in common with her, and 461 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: maybe you should contact her. 462 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: So I did. 463 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: Melissa. She's such a lovely person. She lost her son 464 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: and his name is Matthew. Melissa contributed a chapter to 465 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: the anthology called The Christmas Miracle. Well, when I met Melissa, 466 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: I found out we did have a lot in common. 467 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: Aaron told me before I met Melissa, and this was 468 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: around the Christmas before I met her, that he was 469 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: with someone named Matthew in his afterlife, and I didn't 470 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: know anyone named Matthew in the afterlife. Took me a 471 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: long time to figure it out. Turns out Melissa's son's 472 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: name is Matthew, but it goes on. Melissa lives thirty 473 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: minutes from where I was born. My father was in 474 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: the US Air Force and I was born on Maxwell 475 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: Air Force Base in Alabama. Melissa's husband worked on Maxwell 476 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 3: Air Force Base and guided a salute to my father 477 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: in his memory on that base. 478 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: Beautiful. 479 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are the odds of something like that? 480 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: Another incredible synchronicity. I was listening to a podcast by 481 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: another author in our anthology. Her name is Jane Asher Rainey. 482 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: Now when I drive up to the cottage, what it's 483 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: the first thing I do? Turn on podcasts. I never 484 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: listened to a podcast before yours. Now I can't get 485 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: enough of the podcast. And Jane was talking about her 486 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: experience with her mom in spirit. She started to hear 487 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: her mom through a medium, then started hearing her mom herself. Anyway, 488 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: The strange thing that happened was I was driving along 489 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: in Canada. I know my eyesight's not that great. I 490 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: saw what looked like a road exit sign that said 491 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: Oprah Winfree Road, and I'm thinking, Oprah Winfrey Road. There's 492 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: no Oprah. And as soon as I got close enough 493 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 3: to the sign, it didn't say anything like Oprah Winfrey Road. Well, 494 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: not very far up the highway. Jane mentioned Oprah Winfrey 495 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: in her podcast and I went, oh, and I take 496 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: these as little messages. Listen or it's a good thing 497 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: you're listening now, because something's going to happen on the 498 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: way to the cottage. The other day, I was behind 499 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: a car with the driver's license numbers five sixteen, and 500 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: I looked at it. I said, oh, something's going to 501 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: happen on May sixteenth. 502 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 2: Here we are, yes, ladies, and gaidh do we are 503 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: recording this on May sixteen? 504 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: And oh my goodness. There's so many chapters I can 505 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: talk about. The thing about the anthology, The really interesting 506 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: thing is it's not just full of personal accounts and 507 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: anecdotal stories about these kinds of experiences. I have, somehow 508 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 3: miraculously had scientists reach out to me to contribute chapters 509 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: about their scientific research. Findings in afterlife communication and Survival 510 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: of Consciousness. So doctor Piero Calvi Paracetti, he contributed a chapter. 511 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: When you read this chapter, you will read this as evidence. 512 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: You can't see this any other way of what the 513 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 3: chances are that accurate contacts are made with spirit, especially 514 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: through mediums. Speaking of mediums, I met a medium through 515 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: a friend, both who have contributed to the anthology. The 516 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 3: medium's name is Sherry Gallant and she's a very well 517 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 3: known medium here in Canada. Her accuracy is unbelievable. I 518 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: had one of my first mediumship readings with her. I 519 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: was so blown away by what she brought through from 520 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: my father and my son, and the friend who recommended 521 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: her also had incredible experiences. Her name is Cindy Leader, 522 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 3: and they're in the book. All of these kinds of 523 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: stories are recorded in this book alongside of each other, 524 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 3: so that it's not just you know, people's personal stories 525 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 3: from every walk of life around the world, every background, 526 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: every religion, practically nearly every continent but science. Doctor Mark 527 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: Pittstick wrote a chapter about his research with doctor Gary 528 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: Schwartz in Communication Across the Veil. There's over forty chapters. 529 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 3: Beautiful forwards. There's an endorsement from Mark Anthony, the psychic lawyer. 530 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: I went in a group meeting with him. That was 531 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: the first time I just thought, okay, I'll join. I 532 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: literally joined five minutes before I saw an ad for it. 533 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: And the first thing he said was, I have a 534 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: blue jay here. Does anyone recognize a blue jay? And 535 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: my first thought was, well, my mother was a huge 536 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: Toronto blue Jays fan. So I typed it into the 537 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: chat and he called me up. What he brought through 538 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: down to the finger my mother broke. He talked about 539 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 3: how my mother had to wear a ring on the 540 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 3: other hand because of her finger, and he pointed at 541 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: the very finger that she broke and it never healed right, 542 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 3: so she couldn't wear her ring on there. He talked 543 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 3: about the heart shaped necklace I gave her. He couldn't 544 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: have known these things. I joined five minutes before. What 545 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 3: I found that I need to do is recognize what's 546 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: happening in that moment, and then I can connect the 547 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: dots and figure out the messages. 548 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: Camille, there's people who would love to know their loved 549 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: one is around and that yes, signs are great and 550 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 2: working with the medium is great. But can you talk 551 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: about how Aaron is kind of in touch with you 552 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: through your thoughts and mind because I know the two 553 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: books there's a lot of your journaling with things that 554 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: have happened with him. But what should we be aware 555 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: of with our loved one? How should we keep the 556 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 2: relationship alive? You know what I'm asking? 557 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. Thank you. That's a great question. Aaron 558 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 3: explains so much to me about this. How are we communicating? 559 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: Because I've asked him and he said that we are 560 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: always connected with the source of creation. It flows through 561 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: us as it flows through everything. So opening our minds 562 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 3: is really opening our brains to allow ourselves to tune 563 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: into it. Aaron says that love is the energy of creation, 564 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: and everything is created from love. We are actually part 565 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: of that chain of creation. We've been given brains and 566 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 3: tools for creation, like hands, tools to see, to speak, 567 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: to hear, and then to create from what we receive. 568 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: Every bit of love we put out into the world 569 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: is valuable and important to the universe in that constant 570 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 3: flow of creation that it's in. Sometimes when people feel like, oh, 571 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 3: how come I'm not receiving messages? How come other people do? 572 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: But I don't I want it so badly? And what 573 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: Aaron says is everyone is He's saying, be open, open 574 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 3: up to all the possibilities because your loved one will 575 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 3: come through with their own language for you and what 576 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: you're able to recognize. But if you're focused on one 577 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: thing like dimes or feathers or something somebody else is getting, 578 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: you might be missing what they're sending you. But they 579 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 3: are sending them. They're always sending them. Or if you're 580 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 3: in a group reading, which the group readings are wonderful, 581 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: but not everyone gets called up. But guess what, the 582 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 3: loved one who's coming through the medium is the spokesperson 583 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 3: for the group. That means if you're there, your loved 584 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: one is there and they might not be speaking directly 585 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 3: to you, but they are all speaking to everyone in 586 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 3: the group. So that's another way we can connect. Let's 587 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: head off to the break now and when we get 588 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: back we'll hear more from Camille Dan who compiled the 589 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: book Gathering at the Doorway, an anthology of signs, visits, 590 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 3: and Messages from the Afterlife. 591 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: You are listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the 592 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 593 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: Keep it here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 594 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 4: am Paranormal podcast Network. 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Enjoy your search 604 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 7: and have some fun at paranormal date dot com. 605 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 4: Hey, it's producer Tom and you're right where you need 606 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 4: to be. This is the iHeartRadio in Coast to Coast, 607 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 4: a paranormal podcast network. 608 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 609 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 2: We're talking to mom, and author and nurse and so 610 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: much more. Camille Dan who put together an amazing compilation book. 611 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: It's called Gathering at the Doorway, an anthology of signs, 612 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: visits and messages from the afterlife. There are over forty 613 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: stories in it. Before the break, she was just telling 614 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: us about different ways to connect. Let's continue. 615 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 3: Another way we can connect is to try to reduce 616 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 3: a lot of the distractions of daily living that take 617 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 3: our focus and occupy our focus all the time. And 618 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 3: see if meditation works for you, see if walks in 619 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 3: nature work for you. Try different things, because everybody's different, 620 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 3: and just as much as all our loved ones are different. 621 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,959 Speaker 3: Yet although everyone is a different expression of the love 622 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 3: energy of creation, we are all connected to that source always. 623 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: Yes, you were on our Sunday gathering yesterday. Yes, yes, 624 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, we offer a 625 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: free Sunday service. It's filled with surprises and inspiration and love, 626 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: and part of it is a demonstration of mediumship. And 627 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: your hand went up many times, so I feel like 628 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: you had a lot of love there. 629 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: Yes, That's happened a lot of times for me when 630 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: I've been on group readings, it's like, oh, I recognize that. 631 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 3: I recognize that. A lot of times the leader is 632 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 3: saying wait till you recognize three indicators, And a lot 633 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 3: of times there are and somebody else gets called up, 634 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 3: and I think, okay, well this message is for me too. 635 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 3: It's not just for the person that was called up, 636 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: It's for everybody here. It was remarkable yesterday how many 637 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 3: things I could take came up. But it's happened before. 638 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 3: One mediumship group reading I was in. Aaron dominated the 639 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 3: whole thing. I just kept putting my hand up, putting 640 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 3: my hand up. So that's to me, just evidence that 641 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: readings are for everyone who showed up. 642 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: I agree, you can take out of it so much. 643 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 2: And of course in these readings, not everyone can get 644 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: a personal reading, but I visualize behind the scenes. So 645 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 2: in our Sunday gathering, we might have two hundred people 646 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: that show up in the Zoom meeting. Mind, it's just 647 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 2: thousands of our loved ones, and they're all, okay, who's 648 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: going to do what? And okay, our stories are similar, 649 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 2: so let's step up together. And even right now, you know, 650 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: Aaron and your folks and my dad and my grandmother 651 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: all just big smiles. We're here. 652 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: You know what, what you're saying rings a bell so 653 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 3: much for me, because all I've been saying throughout this 654 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: anthology is our loved ones have gathered us together, They've 655 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 3: guided us all together for this. How else could this 656 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 3: have happened in this short span of time? And I say, 657 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 3: there's got to be a stadium full of souls cheering 658 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 3: us on. And their book club is growing bigger and 659 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: bigger all the time, every time a story is shared. 660 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 3: And that's what this book is about, sharing stories and 661 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 3: encouraging others to share their stories and to open their 662 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: minds and their own experiences with their loved ones too. 663 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm so excited that science is working on this too, 664 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: from the people that you mentioned in your book and 665 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 2: people that I've interviewed, and I mentioned this on our 666 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: Sunday gathering that a group of scientists have proved that 667 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: near death experiences are not hallucinations. So many people who 668 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: are the skeptics and the doubters, and I was even 669 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,919 Speaker 2: that person not oh yes, you see that white light. 670 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: It's a normal part of the brain shutting down. But 671 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 2: with the commonalities of meeting our relatives, seeing things so clearly, 672 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 2: being accurately able to tell different things that are happening 673 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 2: on earth while your eyes are closed, and so many 674 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 2: other things, the clarity the visions that people have are 675 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 2: not forgotten. There's no way it can be a hallucination. 676 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 2: So science is a little slow to pick up on it, 677 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 2: but so many people are looking for that scientific evidence. 678 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: And when you look, there are plenty of scientists that 679 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: do believe in doctors. 680 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 3: And things, plenty of evidence. 681 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: Can I ask you about your cover designs, because they're 682 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 2: really quite special. 683 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for asking. My son Jonathan 684 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 3: created all of the book covers for Aaron's Energy, the 685 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 3: first edition and the second edition, and for Gathering at 686 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 3: the Doorway. He's a graphic artist. What he is able 687 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 3: to come up with. All I have to do is 688 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 3: tell him I think this is a good title for 689 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: the book. And he produces artwork that's so reflective of 690 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 3: it and missed Cole, and I believe that his art 691 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 3: speaks about the book. And he does it all out 692 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 3: of love, in honor of his brother, all of it. 693 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 3: He even wrote a chapter this time. He's a shy, 694 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 3: quiet guy, works very hard, very dedicated to his work. 695 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: Not like him to write, but he wrote a beautiful 696 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 3: chapter about his brother and his experience with his brother 697 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 3: and his dreams. 698 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 2: Oh that is so wonderful. Thank you, Oh Camille, I'm 699 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 2: just setting you a big hug right now. It has 700 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: been a roller coaster journey for you, but what you've 701 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: found and what you've shared has changed so many lives. 702 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. 703 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Really, 704 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 3: I would have never dreamt of things going how far 705 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,399 Speaker 3: they've gone, or in the amount of time that they have, 706 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 3: or being on your show talking with you after I 707 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 3: first heard your podcast and was so moved by it. 708 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 3: And if I can add that, Aaron passed away at 709 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 3: thirty one, a young age, and everything I do with 710 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 3: my books is in his honor and memory, and I 711 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 3: believe he and I are working together on everything that 712 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 3: I have done, because, as I said, I've never written 713 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: a book before. I'm a former skeptic. So I'm donating 714 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 3: all of the proceeds of my book in honor of 715 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 3: Aaron and to places that he would have donated, I believe, 716 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 3: and some of them he's put them in my path 717 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 3: or he's even told me so. For instance, proceeds are 718 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 3: going to mental health and addiction care and research programs 719 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 3: helping parents, Heal Forever Family Foundation, to Sonia Ronaldi's Institute 720 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 3: and her research to survival of consciousness and afterlife communication 721 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 3: research to bereavement support groups to using young adult social 722 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 3: development programs, and those are the categories. So under each 723 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 3: category there's a list of individual charities that the proceeds 724 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 3: are going to. 725 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 2: Oh, bless you for doing that, and we can find 726 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 2: out more at your website. You want to talk about 727 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 2: that and what's on your website? 728 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. 729 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: So. 730 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 3: You can find all of my books on my website 731 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 3: www dot aarons energy dot com. Plus on my website 732 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 3: there's a list of referrals, references and books that I've 733 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 3: read that I recommend, So if you're interested in any 734 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 3: further reading from Sandra or any of the other authors, 735 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 3: or any books that have moved me, you can find 736 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 3: those there on the references and recommendations page. 737 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 2: Camille, thank you so much for being our guest today. 738 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's such an honor. I can't 739 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 3: even there's not enough words for me to express my gratitude. 740 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 2: Camille, is that wonderful lady I was telling you about 741 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 2: at the beginning. She'll never know in this life the 742 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: ripple effect of the difference she's made in so many lives. Again, 743 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 2: her website is Aaron's energy dot com. Aarin is spelled 744 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 2: aa r N. I want to read to you some 745 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 2: words that Aaron said through Camille. She journaled every date, 746 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 2: the conversations she had personally with him, and some of 747 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: his words. This one is dated May twenty third. Although 748 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: I am no longer present in my physical form, my 749 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 2: consciousness continues to be present here with you. Mom, live 750 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 2: on for me and go forward with me. June twelfth. 751 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 2: Your loved ones and spirit are still with you. Continue 752 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 2: to love you and share all of your life within 753 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 2: and alongside you. The connection is never broken. We anchor 754 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: our energy to you through shareable, compatible, and familiar thoughts 755 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 2: and memories, and we are always here for you as 756 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 2: your guides and helpers. Ask us any time and be 757 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 2: comforted by our ever presence. We always answer your call. 758 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 2: Look for guidance, open yourself to possibilities and to the 759 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: concept of infinity, even though the perception of it seems impossible. 760 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,959 Speaker 2: We are not finite, and we can maintain our connections 761 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 2: to you. Our guidance is not restricted or limited to 762 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 2: your familiar dimensions. We are eternal and we live in eternity. 763 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 2: June thirtieth, When we are reunited again, you will understand 764 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: the joy of eternity, something you cannot understand now. You 765 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: will know all of our existence and memories across time, 766 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 2: and you will know that we have always been together. 767 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 2: There's so much more for you in this beautiful book. 768 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 2: Gathering at the Doorway, an anthology of signs, visits, and 769 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: Messages from the afterlife. And those last words were from 770 00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 2: Camille's chapter. It's one of over forty chapters. You know, 771 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 2: I get it. Sometimes it's really hard to believe in 772 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 2: the afterlife. We want to, but there's something in our 773 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 2: human brain that says, is this too good to be true? 774 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 2: And I tell you, when you read other stories of 775 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 2: what people are experiencing, suddenly your experiences seem to make sense. 776 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 2: If your heart is feeling a little sore right now, 777 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: or you're missing your loved one, pull out your computer 778 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: or some paper and a pen and start writing to them. 779 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 2: Write your thoughts, write your feelings, and then write as 780 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 2: if you were them writing back to you. And something 781 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 2: magical happens when we practice this. Suddenly you start realizing 782 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 2: these are not your words, they're theirs, and you get 783 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 2: that comfort that your loved ones live on and they 784 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 2: are by your side. And you will see them again. 785 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 2: Just a quick reminder, come visit me at We Don't 786 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 2: Die dot com. Enter your name and email address on 787 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 2: that front page at the bottom, and you'll get a 788 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 2: free copy of my book, We Don't Die, a skeptics 789 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 2: Discovery of life after Death. You're welcome to join us 790 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 2: for our medium classes, our demonstrations are free Sunday gathering 791 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 2: and much more. In closing, my friend, you will never 792 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 2: see until your life flashes before your eyes the difference 793 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 2: you make for others. But do good things make a 794 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 2: difference for another even when nobody's watching. I'm Sandra Champlain. 795 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on 796 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 797 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: And if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 798 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next one. Thank you for 799 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 800 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: Podcast Network.