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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I thought,

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Speaker 2: Buck out of the gates there about trying to do

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Speaker 2: my best rapid Joe Biden's speech, screaming at everybody, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to scare anyone who might have their

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Speaker 2: radio turned up to normal decimals. But the state of

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Speaker 2: the Union was last night, Joe Biden spoke faster and

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Speaker 2: angrier than at any point in his career. I honestly

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Speaker 2: believe he was drugged up, and a part of me

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Speaker 2: thought I wouldn't mind some of what he has occasionally,

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Speaker 2: if I got to be out in Vegas for multiple

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Speaker 2: days and need to be able to have a little

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Speaker 2: bit more energy, I would love to know what the

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Speaker 2: drug cocktail they put him on last night was, because

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Speaker 2: I mean that to me was the biggest takeaway from

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Speaker 2: the moment he started speaking. He didn't sound like himself.

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Speaker 2: He did it. His eyes were so uncomfortably hidden the

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Speaker 2: way that he spoke. I guarantee you if you go

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Speaker 2: back and play that compared to ten years ago, there

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Speaker 2: are multiple sentences Buck where it felt like he was

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Speaker 2: being paid to try to get as many words in

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Speaker 2: a minute as he possibly could.

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Speaker 3: He didn't pause correctly.

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Speaker 2: I think the lasting impact was they wanted to send

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Speaker 2: the message that Joe Biden had energy, and really what

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Speaker 2: he said hardly mattered at all. It was just the fact,

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Speaker 2: like we said, that he didn't fall, that he didn't

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Speaker 2: have some perilous pause. That was so devastating that it

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Speaker 2: moved through social Now. I think there's several different things

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Speaker 2: to get into, and I'll get your read. But clearly

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Speaker 2: this was an opening speech to attack Donald Trump, but

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Speaker 2: not use Donald Trump's name. Instead, they use the word

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Speaker 2: predecessor buck. I believe thirteen times listen to this.

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Speaker 4: My predecessor came to office determined to see Rob wad

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Speaker 4: overturn my predecessor on Some of you here seek to

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Speaker 4: bury the truth about January sixth Many of you in

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Speaker 4: this chamber, Acessor, my predecessor, my predecessor, past administration is

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Speaker 4: including my predecessor or my predecessor. I'm told my predecessor

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Speaker 4: called members of Congress in the Senate, and if my

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Speaker 4: predecessor is watching, unlike my predecessor, on my first day

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Speaker 4: in officsign produced the comprehence of bills.

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Speaker 5: I don't like my predecessor. I know who we are

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Speaker 5: as American.

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Speaker 4: My predecessor told the NRA he's proud he did nothing

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Speaker 4: on guns when he was president. All it's tough talk

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Speaker 4: on China. It never occurred to my predecessor to do

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Speaker 4: any of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what was your biggest takeaway? I think the idea

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Speaker 2: of not naming Trump is sad. Makes me wonder if

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Speaker 2: he benefits every time Biden names him if they decided

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Speaker 2: to go with predecessor. But what was your biggest takeaway

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Speaker 2: last night from the State of the Union.

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Speaker 5: Uh, they're not replacing Biden. It's not happening.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna lie. That's a body below. This was an

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Speaker 2: opening campaign speech. Biden's not I would say they want

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Speaker 2: to replace Biden. My takeaway is Biden this was his response,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to drag me out.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going.

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Speaker 5: He's not going everybody, So you know, I will eat

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Speaker 5: my words if this turns out to be false, but

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Speaker 5: I would I would be very careful before any of

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Speaker 5: you would start throwing steak bets out there on this one.

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Speaker 5: Biden is going to be their nominee and I do.

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Speaker 5: Look a few things he came out with. The opening

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Speaker 5: salvo was Russia threats to democracy, abortion. So it's exactly

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Speaker 5: this was a campaign speech, plain and simple. It actually

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Speaker 5: had the first I don't know, thirty forty minutes, had

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Speaker 5: very little to do with America as we know it.

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Speaker 5: It was the MSNBC audience talking points for the base.

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Speaker 5: What's the assault, and it is, you know, Russia Ukraine

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Speaker 5: stuff to start this speech basically about Ukraine just goes

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Speaker 5: to show you this is like Ukraine for the Libs,

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Speaker 5: It's this is the thing that they think they have

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Speaker 5: to do. Now. There are a lot of problems in

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Speaker 5: this country. Ukraine and the future of it is not

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Speaker 5: hard time with Ukraine. They're going to attack a NATO

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Speaker 5: that's crazy, but okay, so that's where they are. The

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Speaker 5: three pronged you know Democrat base. The Democrat tried if

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Speaker 5: Russia stuff transitions into threats to democracy because Trump Russia,

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Speaker 5: he likes Russia, he would leave Ukraine. Democracy is under assault.

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Speaker 5: This is all the same, the same stew of garbage.

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Speaker 5: And then he transitioned very clearly into really it was

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Speaker 5: an Obama speech from twenty twelve. It was you know,

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Speaker 5: immigration stuff, which was really so dishonest and grotesque. But

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we can get We'll get into

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Speaker 5: more details, obviously, that's what we're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 5: for the show today. But I think that the biggest

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden is going to be their nominee, and we'll

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Speaker 5: nothing but failure for them. But I gotta say, like,

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Speaker 5: it wasn't a bad night for Biden. People may not

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Speaker 5: want to hear this, but it wasn't bad. There was

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Speaker 5: nothing that happened where you'd say, oh, Joe Biden, he's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a cakewalk, the same guy ran against in

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Speaker 2: So I did think that opening with Ukraine and being

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Speaker 2: actual immigration, which is the number one issue, And I

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Speaker 2: did think Marjorie Taylor Green baited him into going off script.

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Speaker 3: And let me just explain. I always think this is important.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is reading off a teleprompter almost every time

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Speaker 2: he has a public events. Ninety nine percent of people

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Speaker 2: have never seen a teleprompter. Ninety nine point nine percent

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Speaker 2: of people have never read off of a teleprompter before it.

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Speaker 2: I think you will talk about Katie Britt. I think

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Speaker 2: oftentimes that can impact the way that you deliver. One

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Speaker 2: reason that I love radio. Neither Buck nor myself will

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Speaker 2: ever have anything written on a teleprompter ever, although I

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Speaker 2: do love that ourddiction and word choice can be so

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Speaker 2: clear sometimes that people ask who writes your scripts? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I just want to say the Lord Almighty, because it's

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Speaker 2: between these two ears. There is zero script for anything

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Speaker 2: that we do any given day, and I like more

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Speaker 2: natural conversations. But he's reading off a teleprompter. He has

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I want, though, when he went off script, that's what

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Speaker 2: you got to do. What the great Mike Tyson quote,

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Speaker 2: everybody's got a plan till they get punched in the mouth.

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Speaker 2: Biden with a plan, and that's what they're going to

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Speaker 2: try to do. They're going to try to keep him

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Speaker 2: on script when he had that White House press conference.

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Speaker 2: The reason they don't let him take questions. Whenever he

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Speaker 2: as sharp as it used to be. When he's just

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Speaker 2: reading off a prompter, it's less likely that he's going

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Speaker 2: to screw up. So you have to get him off script,

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Speaker 2: which is what Marjorie Taylor Green did and what I

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Speaker 2: thought was his only real mishap all day. He decided

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Speaker 2: to finally try to say Lake and Riley's name, and

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Speaker 2: this is what it sounded like.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 4: I'm told my predecessor called members of Congress in the

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Speaker 5: He feels political win.

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Speaker 4: He viewed a political win for me and a political

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Speaker 4: loser for him. It's not about him. It's not about me.

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Speaker 4: I'd be a winner, non really. I Lincoln Lincoln Riley,

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Speaker 4: an innocent young woman who was killed. Why an illegal?

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Speaker 5: That's right?

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Speaker 4: But how many of thousands of people being killed by legals?

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Speaker 4: To her parents, I say, my heart goes out to you,

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Speaker 4: having lost children myself, I understand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, Clay, do you have something to add to

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Speaker 2: to well? First of all, he couldn't get her name right.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley is the head coach of the USC football team.

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Speaker 2: This has gone megaviral. I do think that's going to

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Speaker 2: be a mess for him. And also, did you see

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Speaker 3: What did we have to clip? We have to clip?

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi went on and criticize Biden for responding, what

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Speaker 2: did she have an issue with Lincoln Riley's death?

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Speaker 3: The illegal thing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah for sure. Yeah, we can play that on

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Speaker 5: what is that like thirty or something?

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Speaker 3: We got there? Yeah, thirty second, there's play like Nancy

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Speaker 6: the isle had, and he had one of those buttons.

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Speaker 6: We believe it was given to him by Marjorie Taylor

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Speaker 7: I should have said undocumented, but it's not a big thing.

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Speaker 6: I actually wasn't even gonna ask about that. I was

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Speaker 2: Well, we usually say audocumented. He said illegal.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's a big deal. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 8: But more broadly, plus, I think his focus was on

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a mishap as soon as he

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Speaker 5: I just think that on the wet blanket of reality today,

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Speaker 5: in the right media ecosystem we are going to between

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Speaker 5: now an election day, always be tempted to say look

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Speaker 5: at what, and I'm going to keep saying it. I'm

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Speaker 5: not pretending like I'm above this, right, I'm not saying,

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Speaker 5: oh I don't do this. I even do Biden impression sometimes,

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Speaker 5: but then he's a bumbling, senile, old fool. Look at him,

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Speaker 5: stumble here, look at him, say this this dumb thing. There.

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Speaker 5: Seventy five percent of the country thinks he's too old, right,

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Speaker 5: about forty nine percent of the country, based on the

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Speaker 5: polls right now, would still vote for him. I worry.

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Speaker 5: I worry that our side is doing what we did

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Speaker 5: in twenty twelve with ben Ghazi, where we start to

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Speaker 5: And you know, I know some of those folks who

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Speaker 5: were in the ben Gazi situation. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 5: whole other conversation.

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Speaker 3: It was horrible.

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Speaker 5: It was it was they were left high and dry

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Speaker 5: by the administration. But it turned into, oh, you know,

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Speaker 5: he's not going to be able to win, and you know,

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Speaker 5: everyone's going to realize what a big deal this is,

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Speaker 5: and we're gonna have all these hearings. It was only

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Speaker 5: Republican independence. Didn't care about it at all. Swing voters

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Speaker 5: So we've also got to get into the Katie Britt response.

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Speaker 5: All right, second hour, Play and Buck kicks off now,

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Speaker 7: Us, sir, good good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 7: Hey, before we get this state of union, I just

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Speaker 5: All right, Hold on, Congressman, though, yes, where are you on?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's now, but I totally that's that my experience.

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Speaker 2: illegal or legal. You can't tell because he slurs so

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Speaker 2: many words what he was saying. Did you feel like that?

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Speaker 2: That's kind of when you have to get him off

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Speaker 2: of his you know script, that that's when it reveals

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Speaker 2: how little depth that he has, and that's where the

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Speaker 2: mental faculties aren't as strong as they used to be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, and in fact, we've actually subceeded Special

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Speaker 7: Counsel Robert Hurr. We want the audio tapes because that's

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Speaker 7: what Robert hurt said was the reason he didn't indict

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Speaker 7: this guy for you know, deliberately bofully intentionally missailling classified doctors.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, and I did think that was a big

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Speaker 7: moment last night when it was when he said Lincoln

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Speaker 7: Riley instead of Lake and Riley. I thought that was

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Speaker 7: that was huge. But when he kind of gets off

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Speaker 7: scripts and then of course the abrupt change and emotions,

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Speaker 7: you know, one minute he's kind of reading and chouting

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Speaker 7: and the next man he's really shouting, and then he

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Speaker 7: throws in a whisper here or there. So it's I

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Speaker 7: think that's that's kind of a concern.

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Speaker 5: As well, speaking of I'm sorry, Congressman Jim Jordan of

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Speaker 5: Ohio and uh, Congressman, you know, what do you see

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Speaker 5: from the the way they're trying to position immigration specifically,

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Speaker 5: they realize it's a huge issue, right, they realize a

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Speaker 5: big problem. They can't ignore it anymore. But it's as

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Speaker 5: though they want us to forget what Democrats have done

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Speaker 5: for this is now the fourth year under Biden, and

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Speaker 5: shift the blame to Republicans for not going along with

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Speaker 5: Democrats to not fix the problems that Democrats created in

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Speaker 5: the first place.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's and everyone knows they're the cause. We

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Speaker 7: actually had a hearing on this yesterday in our committee

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Speaker 7: and Joe Biden, I asked the witnesses said, did Joe

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Speaker 7: Biden cause this problem? Because yeah, and Joe Biden told

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Speaker 7: us he was going to cause the problem back during

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Speaker 7: the debates when he's says we want he literally said

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Speaker 7: this in the Democrat presidential debates, we want migrants to

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Speaker 7: surge to the border. Well they took him at his word,

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Speaker 7: you know, go figure, and they came, and it's well

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Speaker 7: on pace now to get the twelve million migrants coming

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Speaker 7: in this country in the Biden presidency. So the idea

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Speaker 7: that somehow they're going to blame you know, it's Trump's fault,

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Speaker 7: it's Republicans faulled, it's climate change is the reason this

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Speaker 7: is happening. Like, no, you guys had deliberate, intentional policies

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Speaker 7: that created this mess. And now you see that it's bigger.

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Speaker 7: It's the biggest issue polling across the board, so that

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Speaker 7: it's the biggest, bigger than the inslation and all the

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Speaker 7: economy problems. It's the biggest issue because of things you

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Speaker 7: guys wilfully intentionally did.

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Speaker 2: I saw and thought and believe that it is is

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Speaker 2: still kind of crazy that he did this to last

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Speaker 2: night Congressman. He directly lectured the Supreme Court about their

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Speaker 2: decision on Roe v.

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Speaker 3: Wade. I think it's weird. I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: I think it's weird that the Supreme Court is there

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Speaker 2: for the State of the Union in the first place, personally,

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Speaker 2: but the fact that this was such a camp Pain

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Speaker 2: style speech that he would take advantage of them being

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Speaker 2: there and say you're going to learn that there's a

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Speaker 2: major issue now that women are going to respond to

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Speaker 2: your opinion. I thought was was really outside the pale

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Speaker 2: of what I've ever seen at the Supreme I mean,

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Speaker 2: at the State of the Union before I do.

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Speaker 7: I do think the only time I could recall this

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Speaker 7: there was something similar is when I believe President Obama

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Speaker 7: called out Alito on the Citizens United decision, maybe ten, twelve,

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Speaker 7: fourteen years ago. But yeah, that was unusual. I didn't see,

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Speaker 7: but I was told by one colleague that they felt

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Speaker 7: like even one of the one of the Democrat more

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Speaker 7: liberal members of the Court had kind of a you know,

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Speaker 7: they kind of keep it straight face throughout the whole

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Speaker 7: thing anyway, But I don't think that was appropriate. You know,

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Speaker 7: we're a system of separate and equal branches of government.

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Speaker 7: Don't don't show poor form and criticize the Supreme Court

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Speaker 7: who were sitting there during the during the address.

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Speaker 5: Congressman, how do you think we're looking for control of

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Speaker 5: Congress on the GOP side going into this election? Obviously,

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Speaker 5: so much is focused on Trump vi Biden because now

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Speaker 5: it's more officially than even if we've seen it coming

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Speaker 5: for a while. But what are your thoughts on how

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Speaker 5: the GOP can maintain and really grow majority.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I feel good.

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Speaker 7: I mean we're gonna win West Virginia in the Senate.

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Speaker 7: We got a great candidate. I think Bernie Marino. I

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Speaker 7: was campaigning with him on Monday in Ohio. I think

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Speaker 7: he's going to be our nominee. I think he could

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Speaker 7: beat CHERF.

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Speaker 5: Brown.

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Speaker 7: We got a great chance at Montana. McCormick is a

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Speaker 7: great case. He's an old wrestling Guy, So I really

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Speaker 7: like McCormick as well. In Pennsylvania Wrestled to the West

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Speaker 7: Point and Super Guy. So we got good Kerry Lake

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Speaker 7: and Arizona. We got good candidates. I think we take

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Speaker 7: back the Senate. Of course, I think President Trump's gonna win.

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Speaker 7: You have the election today, I think he wins gone away.

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Speaker 7: And if they run on the kind of garbage they

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Speaker 7: were talking about last night, that's the message to Americans.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 7: I think that's good for us too. So I feel

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Speaker 7: a real bod about those and I think we keep

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Speaker 7: the House. We got the majority there. We need a

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Speaker 7: little we need a few more seats so we have

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Speaker 7: a stronger working majority and it's easier to get things pass.

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Speaker 7: But I feel really good as we're what now eight

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Speaker 7: months away from the from from the election day.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Jim Jordan. I know you're in the

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Speaker 2: room itself, and sometimes it can be hard to know

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Speaker 2: how that's going to play on television because it's a

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Speaker 2: very small room and it looks sometimes very different in

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Speaker 2: person than it does on television. But we've gotten some

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Speaker 2: questions about the marine dad who was up in the

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Speaker 2: upper gallery. I don't even know if you could hear

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Speaker 2: the disruption. His son was evidently killed in part of

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Speaker 2: the Afghanistan withdrawal, and there were reports that he was arrested. Now,

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Speaker 2: the reason why I bring that up is there were

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Speaker 2: many pro Palestinian protesters who were blocking the president's route

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Speaker 2: to the white to the capital, so that he had

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Speaker 2: to go a different way. I don't know if any

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Speaker 2: of those protesters were arrested. Do you know anything about

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Speaker 2: the dad who was arrested, and what if any charges

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Speaker 2: might be brought and or what Republicans could do. I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine charging a dad because he wants some sort

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Speaker 2: of acknowledgment of his son who died because of Biden's

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Speaker 2: withdrawal recklessly, I think from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, if there's if there's anyone metaphor for for

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Speaker 7: the Biden presidency, it's that plane taking off of Afghanistan

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Speaker 7: with people literally trying to jump on the wheels and

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Speaker 7: get out of it because they know what's coming, they

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Speaker 7: know what the Taliban is going to do when they leave.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's a picture of how what a

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Speaker 7: disaster this administration has been. I do not know. I

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Speaker 7: did talk to a couple of colleagues. I think he

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Speaker 7: was may have been a guest of one of our colleagues,

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Speaker 7: one of our colleagues who served our country and sacrificed

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Speaker 7: tremendously for our country. But other than that, I don't know,

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Speaker 7: And particularly the comparison between you know, what may have

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Speaker 7: happened to him and versus these uh, these these crazy

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Speaker 7: protesters on on the Palestinian in the guy's issue.

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Speaker 5: Congressman, Uh, what do you think about going forward the

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Speaker 5: prospects of whether Joe Biden is actually going to stand

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Speaker 5: on stage and debate against Donald Trump? Do you do

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Speaker 5: you think that he'll be pushed into it or do

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Speaker 5: you think he's going to be able to try to

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Speaker 5: avoid this thing.

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Speaker 7: I think the latter. I think there's little to note

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Speaker 7: that he does it, because, I mean, President Trump, you

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Speaker 7: guys talk to him a lot too. I talked to

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Speaker 7: him all the time. He is as sharp as they come.

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Speaker 7: He is, he's a competitor. I just don't see that

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Speaker 7: in buy and I see him like, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: just don't see it. So I think he probably doesn't.

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Speaker 7: But you never know, I mean, you never know. But

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Speaker 7: my gut tells me they're going to figure out a

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Speaker 7: way to keep him kind of the campaign they ran

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Speaker 7: the last time. You know, they used COVID as an

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Speaker 7: excuse last time. I'm not sure what they'll do this time,

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Speaker 7: but they'll probably to say President Trump is you know,

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Speaker 7: he's They're gonna say he's so bad or something. We

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Speaker 7: shouldn't be on the stage with him when when we

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Speaker 7: know that there should be a debate. But I don't

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Speaker 7: think he does it. I think he stayed away.

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Speaker 3: Jim, who would you tell the president?

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Speaker 2: I know you talked to the President all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I know that he's weighing who his vice president

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Speaker 2: should be. You talked about all the Senate candidates. Obviously

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Speaker 2: we're hoping to flip there. Who do you think the

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Speaker 2: president should be considering as vice president to put together

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Speaker 2: the best possible ticket if it's Biden Commelin, Well.

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Speaker 7: I think Tim Scott's great. I think Elise is great.

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Speaker 7: She's one of our colle She does a great job

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Speaker 7: as our conference chair. I really like Sarah Hackebye Sanders.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, she gave the response a year

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Speaker 7: ago and I thought she knocked it out of the

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Speaker 7: park when particularly the line when she said the divide

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Speaker 7: in America today is normal versus crazy, and then listed

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Speaker 7: all the crazy things that the left now has made

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Speaker 7: mainstay and the Democrat Party. So I like all of

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Speaker 7: those and a bunch of others. I'm forgetting now, but

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Speaker 7: let's never forget. This is a race between Joe Biden

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Speaker 7: and President Trump. President Biden, president Trump, and that's how

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Speaker 7: these things are decided the guy at the top of

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Speaker 7: the ticket. And I think when people look and all

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Speaker 7: the great things President Trump got done, did what he

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Speaker 7: said he was going to do, and did it when

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Speaker 7: everyone in this town was against Never forget in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 7: every stinking Democrat was against him, everyone in the mainstream

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Speaker 7: press was against him. Half the Republicans were against him,

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Speaker 7: and maybe most importantly, all the bureauctras, all the federal

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Speaker 7: bureaucrafts were against him. And yet he got done so

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Speaker 7: many things with that headwind. I think this is racist.

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Speaker 7: You know, obviously it's gonna be Trump versus Biden, and

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Speaker 7: that's what people going to decide on. And they remember,

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Speaker 7: when they remember what things were like just three years

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Speaker 7: and forty eight days ago, I think they're going to

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Speaker 7: be strongly for President Trump.

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Speaker 5: Congress and Jim Jordan right about everything today except single

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Speaker 5: men who eat ice cream by themselves. Congressman, we appreciate you, sir,

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Speaker 5: thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 7: Take care, guys, keep it up all right.

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Speaker 3: Don't miss the day of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 5: Welcome back into Clay an Buck. I still think that

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Speaker 5: no matter what was focused on last night, this election

662
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 5: on the issues, and this is true not just for

663
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: Biden v. Trump, but for the congressional races, Senate seats,

664
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 5: et cetera, that it will turn into immigration, crime, the economy,

665
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Speaker 5: some combination of those three will be very prominent here

666
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Speaker 5: and at the top of the top of the issues chart,

667
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 5: if you will, will be those three things. Maybe the

668
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: economy first, but immigration probably right behind it, and then

669
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Speaker 5: I think crime will be number three.

670
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: And really rule of law.

671
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 5: You know there's a lot of issues you can put

672
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: under that headline. I'm looking at this now, though, Clay,

673
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 5: because I've got two cities that I know quite well.

674
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I still know New York better

675
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: than I know Miami. But I'm in Miami now, and

676
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: I've got two cities that are trying to handle chaos

677
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: and lawlessness in disparate ways. Miami Beach, I'm actually Miami

678
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 5: Beach resident, which is its own city. So for anyone

679
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: who's hasn't spent a lot of time that Miami, you

680
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 5: got to drive across a pretty long causeway to get

681
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: from downtown Miami to Miami Beach. I live on the

682
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: beach side of it. I walk around in flip flops constantly, Clay,

683
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: you'd be proud. Actually when we met, I'm gonna tell

684
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 5: you I didn't wear flip flops that often, and you did.

685
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: And now I have joined your society of flip flop wearers.

686
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: What about shorts? How many days a week do you

687
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: wear shorts?

688
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: Now? In Miami, all that you go outside, you gotta

689
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: all the time. I'm wearing shorts all the time. So

690
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: flip flops and shorts, I've joined Life well lived. If

691
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 5: you're in flip flops and shorts. It's a good day.

692
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 5: So absolutely so. In Miami Beach, there's a bit of

693
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: a bit of a hubbub kerfuffle around what they're doing

694
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: here to deal with spring break. Spring Break for a

695
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: lot of people, they think of college kids drinking beer

696
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 5: and partying. But it's gotten out of hand in Miami

697
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: Beach in recent years. There have been shootings, there have

698
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: been stabbings, there's been chaos and disorder in the streets.

699
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: And this is generally a quiet and low crime community. Uh,

700
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 5: it's a you know, people visit here. The hotels are

701
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 5: all quite expensive, especially the ones on the beach, and

702
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: you know it's a tourist paradise. But Clay, they are

703
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 5: just they are cracking down. They are flooding the zone

704
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: with cops. Not just flooding zone with cops though, they're

705
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 5: also increasing all of.

706
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: The fines for everything. You know, if you if.

707
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 5: You are illegally parking your car, if you are if

708
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 5: you are doing any if you're drunken, disorderly, if you're

709
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: doing anything, they are going to come down with the

710
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 5: full force. And then said this, if you want to

711
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 5: be law abiding and be here that's we love that, right, Like,

712
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: spend your money be here, fantastic. If you're going to

713
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 5: cause any problems, meaning breaking the law and any capacity,

714
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 5: even little things even more minor, you know, minor crimes,

715
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: they are going to the fines are going to be

716
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 5: the maximum, Arrests are going to be made right away,

717
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 5: prosecutions are going.

718
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: To be the maximum.

719
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Speaker 5: I love it. O'mousitting here and I'm thinking, this is great.

720
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 5: This is how it should operate all the time, because

721
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: there's just no excuse, there's no excuse for people to

722
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 5: be doing In previous years, there've been you know, videos

723
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: of the fist fights and the stabbings everything else. That's

724
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 5: what they're in Miami Beach. Meanwhile, in New York City,

725
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: which I still think of as my hometown, they have

726
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 5: National Guard deployed to the subway doing random bag checks. Now,

727
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 5: first of all, this is a temporary measure. How temporary

728
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: who knows, but it is clearly a political stunt. National Guard.

729
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 3: This isn't what they do.

730
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: They're not NYPD, they're not really trained for this, and

731
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 5: they're gonna be looking at random people's bags for guns

732
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: what like. It's actually not the issue on the subway

733
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 5: is more often than not doesn't even involve a firearm,

734
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: so you know, involves people groping people and punching people

735
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 5: and things like that. Why not you say we're gonna

736
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: crack down on any Basically in New York City they

737
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 5: should say, you know, if you're arrested three times, we're

738
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: gonna hit you with the max. Whatever the max is,

739
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: we're hitting you with the max three strikes in your

740
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 5: aut And if you hurt someone for no reason, we're

741
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 5: gonna hit you with the max. If you are violent,

742
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 5: you attack someone, if you punch someone, you know, without provocation.

743
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 5: I'm not talking to two guys to say, let's settle

744
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: this outside, although technically that's illegal too. You're gonna go away,

745
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Miami Beach has got it right,

746
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: crack it down, get rid of it. New York City,

747
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: it's for optics. It's a game they're playing.

748
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: Well, this is why we didn't hardly hear anything in

749
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: the whole state of the Union about actual security and safety,

750
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: which I would argue is the number one responsibility of

751
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: politicians really, and instead we got a lot of grand standing.

752
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: But that's the essence to me.

753
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: You have a really fantastic window into two different governances.

754
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: There are so many people that grew up in the

755
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: New York City area that have decided, I can't deal

756
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: with this anymore. And they went through a lot, and

757
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: we know what worked. Giuliani and Bloomberg back to back

758
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: made New York City super safe. And then the luxury

759
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: of the safety allows people to say, wait a minute,

760
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: we're too tough on criminals. And so this is what

761
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: I remember from the end of the Bloomberg administration. You

762
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: remember this, Bloomberg was having to defend the New York

763
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: City Police Department from allegations that they were racist because

764
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: they were arresting too many minorities. And Bloomberg, who is

765
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: a super data guy, whatever you think about him, obviously

766
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: very successful capitalists, looked at it and said, we're actually

767
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: just arresting people at the rates that they commit violent crime.

768
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Speaker 3: It's not racism at all.

769
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Speaker 2: The people that were searching, asked, stop asking and for

770
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: risk are the people most likely to be committing crimes.

771
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Speaker 5: So they're looking for guns on the subway. Now that's

772
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: what the National Guard. We're looking for guns on the subway.

773
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 5: And now they're doing this because violent assaults are up

774
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 5: twenty percent year over year in the subway system. Right,

775
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 5: but why are they looking for guns? It may not

776
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 5: come as a shotgun. And who thinks this through? Shooting

777
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: someone on the subway where there tend to be cameras

778
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 5: and police is generally for the bad guys. A pretty

779
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 5: stupid thing. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Right, there

780
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 5: are shooting subway, but it's a very rare thing overall.

781
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 5: The number of shooting victims this is from the New

782
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 5: York Post was on the all on the subway system

783
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: we're talking about now. There was one person shot in

784
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 5: the New York City subway in twenty twenty three. There

785
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 5: have been seven who have been who have been shot

786
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 5: and injured so far in twenty twenty four. So assuming

787
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: by the way, that's even less than I thought. But

788
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 5: assuming these numbers are correct, they're looking for guns on

789
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: the subway because you know, we've got to get the

790
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 5: guns clay. In twenty twenty three, there was one person

791
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: shot on the New York City subway system. With millions

792
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: and millions of people riding every day, guns on the

793
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: subway is not the problem. Crazy criminals on the subway

794
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: is the problem. People who assault, rape, punch, stab with

795
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 5: you know, whatever objects they have. That's what's happening in

796
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: large numbers. But they're immediately focused in on we're going

797
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: to stop the guns from There was one shooting on

798
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 5: the subway last year.

799
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Speaker 2: When I saw this story, irrespective of the hypocrisy that

800
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: came out of the New York Times, one of the

801
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: first things I.

802
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 5: Thought, Sorry, I'm sorry, hold on, it's one a month. Okay,

803
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: that it is too low. Yeah, it makes one up

804
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 5: to Yeah, I was shocked up to this point. So

805
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: in three months of last year, sorry, there was one shooting.

806
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: But again, okay, maybe it's ten of year. It's maybe

807
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: it's ten a year. That would have been would have

808
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: been what I guess, but that's very rare. There's millions

809
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: of people on the subway a day, so call it

810
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: a dozen shootings on the subway a year, give or take.

811
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: What I immediately thought about when I saw them bringing out

812
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: the new security was actually Daniel Penny, the guy who

813
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: is right now being prosecuted that they're trying to put

814
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: in prison for decades of his life in theory, when

815
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: they're not prosecuting any actual crimes.

816
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: By and large, unless you're affiliated with Donald Trump.

817
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: Daniel Penny, the marine who put the deranged person in

818
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: a choke hold and is now being charge of the crime.

819
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: If I'm his attorneys, I'm looking at this and I'm saying, Oh,

820
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: the subway is so safe that you've had to call

821
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: out the National Guard and you've had to put a

822
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: thousand people two hundred and fifty additional police officers individuals there.

823
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: I think it's a thousand total that have been called

824
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: out by Kathy Hokeel. And yet you're telling me that

825
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: my client's behavior to try to protect people on the

826
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: subway was unnecessary and worthy of being prosecuted as a

827
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: violent crime.

828
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Speaker 5: I have been on the subway in New York City

829
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: thousands of times, actually, right, I mean, if I were

830
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 5: to add it up over all the years, there was

831
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 5: for a period of time I was on the subby

832
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 5: four times a day, So I mean, you know, thousands

833
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: of times over life. I think I've been in the

834
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 5: New York City subway probably two or three thousand times.

835
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 5: I don't know whatever the number is. The problem you

836
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: have on the subway is not that someone comes on

837
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: with a gun and shoots you. That can happen. And

838
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 5: as I said, you know, it's happened seven times in

839
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 5: two and a half months this year, but last year

840
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 5: it happened one time in two and a half months. Okay,

841
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: one time in two and a half months. You extrapolate

842
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: that out of the course of the year. It's a

843
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 5: very very low number, but there are hundreds and hundreds

844
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: of violent felony assaults. The problem on the New York

845
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 5: City subway system is some deranged career criminal gets on

846
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 5: looks at you know, he thinks that you looked at

847
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 5: him strangely or whatever. And it's always a hymn. Okay,

848
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 5: there's always a guy and you know, decides that he's

849
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 5: gonna punch you in the face, or he's gonna hit

850
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 5: some old lady and he's gonna steal her bag. That's

851
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: what's happening. The only way to stop that is to

852
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 5: lock up the deranged lunatic looking for guns and bags.

853
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 5: When there are ten or fifteen shootings in the subway

854
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: a year, is an absolute waste of time, and it

855
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 5: feels a little bit like tyrannical condition, you know what

856
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: I mean. Now, to go on the subway system, you

857
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: have to have your bag check. When are we going

858
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: to start walking through metal.

859
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: Detectors to go on the subway system?

860
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: When are we just start having to wear masks and

861
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: go through metal detectors. The whole thing is absurd.

862
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 3: We come back, We'll take some of your calls.

863
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: And now I've got a great mask story that we

864
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: should make sure that we don't avoid talking.

865
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: About or forget to talk about it. I should say,

866
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 3: But in the meantime.

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Speaker 9: Need a break from politics, a little comedy to counter

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Speaker 9: the craziness, So The Sunday Hang a weekend podcast to

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Speaker 9: lighten things up a bit. Find it in the Clay

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Speaker 9: you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Play and Buck. Our friend Steve Krackour joins.

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Speaker 5: Now we'll get his take on what we saw last

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Speaker 5: night and how everything's looking here for the GOP going forward.

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Speaker 5: His book, now out in paperback, Uncovered How the media

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Speaker 5: got cozy with power, abandoned its principles, and lost the

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Speaker 5: people is out now. Steve.

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Speaker 8: Great to have you man, Hey Buck Rach be back

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Speaker 8: with you.

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Speaker 5: So let's actually, uh just get your from the perspective

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Speaker 5: of the media coverage of last night and what Biden said,

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Speaker 5: and really focus in on that for a second. Here,

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Speaker 5: what was your biggest your biggest takeaway, your your feelings

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Speaker 5: about how it all went.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there were two. I think there's sort

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Speaker 8: of two different tracks that are both positive for President

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Speaker 8: Biden and negative for President Biden when it comes to

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Speaker 8: how the corporate press at large viewed what happened last night.

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Speaker 8: The first is that the expectations have never been lower

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Speaker 8: first date of the Union to drafts. I mean, if

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Speaker 8: he didn't just collapse up there or have a giant

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Speaker 8: brave freeze that had to everything had to shut down,

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Speaker 8: and he had to be, you know, wheeled off stage,

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Speaker 8: it was a win. And so in that sense, he

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Speaker 8: exceeded expectations. He was actually getting i think overly real

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Speaker 8: hyperbole from the press talking about how amazing it was

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Speaker 8: it was. I mean, come on, the expectations were so low.

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Speaker 8: So that's the first track of it. The second, though,

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Speaker 8: was that it was an overtly political speech, so much

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Speaker 8: so that even people like John Came on CNN was saying,

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Speaker 8: in thirty six years of watching State of the Union addresses,

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Speaker 8: this was the most political speech he's ever seen given

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Speaker 8: in that role. That's of course more than the Donald

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Speaker 8: Trump speeches in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. So in

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Speaker 8: that sense, I think, yes, it may have appeased the

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Speaker 8: pundits on the left and in the media, gave them

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Speaker 8: something positive to talk about about President Biden. However, I

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Speaker 8: don't think it will appeal to the general independent, fairly

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Speaker 8: apolitical voter in the country that frankly, Joe Biden right

928
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Speaker 8: now needs to convince that he's worthy of voting for. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 8: he's not going to be dying tomorrow, but he is

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Speaker 8: a very just delivered a very divisive, very political speech

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Speaker 8: and a setting that's not really typical for you know.

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Speaker 5: See last night I was down here in Florida, South

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Speaker 5: Florida went to an event a Samazdath Award samas dot

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Speaker 5: for the Russian underground publications during the Soviet Union, right,

935
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Speaker 5: and that's what they're named for. It's sort of like

936
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Speaker 5: the free speech the free speech equivalent of a Pulitzer,

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Speaker 5: you know, because Pulitzers now only go to people that

938
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Speaker 5: do the bidding of the regime. And the people honored included,

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Speaker 5: say doctor j Aboutucharia, Miranda Divine, And I thought it

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Speaker 5: was it was interesting that the media treated doctor Batacharia

941
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Speaker 5: horribly and have no introspection about this at all. Right,

942
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Speaker 5: he was somebody who on COVID, he was an author

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Speaker 5: of the Great Parenting Declaration. Everything that he said turned

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Speaker 5: out to be not just true, but show tremendous courage

945
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Speaker 5: and foresight. But the media apparatus congratulates itself even when

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Speaker 5: it's wrong, and it tries to destroy good people. But

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Speaker 5: how do we change that? Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: I think doctor j Boicharia is a perfect example of this,

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Speaker 8: and buck he's one of the twenty six people I

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Speaker 8: talked to on the record in my book Uncovered, and

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Speaker 8: it was the reason I was so interested into hearing

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Speaker 8: what he had to say was because I could see

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Speaker 8: it happen in real time, could see how the press

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Speaker 8: turned against him in a way that really served the

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Speaker 8: purpose of trying to authorize him, trying to make him

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Speaker 8: seem dangerous and someone who is this kouk who should

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Speaker 8: be banned from social media platforms. That's that's the next

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Speaker 8: step we see with the corporate media today. It's not

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Speaker 8: just that ideas are bad or stupid, it's that they're

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Speaker 8: dangerous ideas. I mean, you start describing dangerous ideas. Now

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden you have to deal with them

962
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Speaker 8: in a very different way. And so obviously, first of all,

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Speaker 8: it turned out he was right. So that's but even

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Speaker 8: if he wasn't right, it would be completely ridiculous for

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Speaker 8: the press to describe him as dangerous. I mean, this

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Speaker 8: is a Stanford expert. I mean, it was absolutely outrageous.

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Speaker 8: But he described to me in the book is the

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Speaker 8: way that doctor Fauci and doctor Collins and others in

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Speaker 8: these the establishment consensus apparatus that existed in DC, they

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Speaker 8: were so cozy with the reporters that were covered them

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Speaker 8: that they took dictation from the doctor Fauchi's of the world,

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Speaker 8: these reporters. And he was saying that reporters from the

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Speaker 8: New York Times during this when the Great Barrington Declaration

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Speaker 8: came out, would call him and quote for him, well

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Speaker 8: why would you believe that we should just let the

976
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Speaker 8: virus spread throughout the community, And he said, well, I

977
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Speaker 8: never wrote that. I don't believe that. But that's what

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Speaker 8: doctor Fauci was essentially giving these reporters to dictate this,

979
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Speaker 8: is that he was dictating the coverage of people like

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Speaker 8: doctor j. Bonataria and whether it's COVID, whether it's the

981
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Speaker 8: Hunter Biden laptop story, which I get into in my book,

982
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Speaker 8: there is a what's more concerning than just a political

983
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Speaker 8: bias that exists in the media and has existed for

984
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Speaker 8: a very long time, is this new censorship era that

985
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Speaker 8: exists between the corporate media, between government entities like the

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Speaker 8: FBI and like the CDC, and just to some degree

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Speaker 8: as well, and with social media platforms, with tech platforms

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Speaker 8: that are more than happy to both work with the

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Speaker 8: media and work with these government agencies to just completely

990
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Speaker 8: censor and and exercise people from their platforms that have

991
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Speaker 8: the quote unquote wrong think, that believe something that's that's

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Speaker 8: that's you know, you're not allowed to see, not allowed

993
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Speaker 8: to spread, and that's extremely dangerous and frankly, it's the

994
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 8: opposite of journalists. It's the way, it's the complete opposite

995
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Speaker 8: of what the job of a journalist should be.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I wanted to ask you about that.

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Speaker 5: We're speaking to Steve Krakauer. His book Uncovered is out

998
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Speaker 5: in paperback, now go get yourself a copy. Steve Matt

999
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Speaker 5: Tayibi was also one of the honorees last night. It

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Speaker 5: was Miranda Devine, doctor j Batochari, and Matt Tayibi. And

1001
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Speaker 5: really one of the most remarkable lines of the night

1002
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Speaker 5: from up on stage was when he just said that,

1003
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Speaker 5: you know, he's described by the Washington Post as a

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Speaker 5: conservative journalist now and everyone's kind of laughing about that.

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Speaker 5: Matt Tayibe was kind of a bomb throwing leftist for

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Speaker 5: a lot of his career, at least in the eyes

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Speaker 5: of some folks. And now, though, if you're trying to

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Speaker 5: do journalism, as in a thing where you find facts

1009
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Speaker 5: wherever they lead that is considered right wing, what do

1010
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 5: you think you worked at CNN? I worked at CNN.

1011
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 5: What do you think their response to that is? Is

1012
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 5: that just not srure? Do they just not care?

1013
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 8: I would say, unfortunately, it's you know, the nuanced answer

1014
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 8: is it's a little bit of both. I think that

1015
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 8: there is an element that simply don't care. They believe

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Speaker 8: that we are ever since twenty sixteen, and I think

1017
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Speaker 8: it took Donald Trump winning in twenty sixteen to amplify

1018
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 8: a lot of these problems. But they believe that they

1019
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 8: are now in this existential fight for democracy with the country,

1020
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Speaker 8: and so the rules as they once existed in the

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Speaker 8: world of journalism no longer applo.

1022
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Speaker 5: It's so funny.

1023
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Speaker 8: I used to point out hypocrisy in my newsletter Fourth

1024
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Speaker 8: Watch Or I do it a lot in the book.

1025
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Speaker 8: I'm covered, and it's really pointless. They don't care about

1026
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 8: being yet that's.

1027
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Speaker 3: Right, they don't care.

1028
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Speaker 5: I've been saying this for Yeah, they revel in the

1029
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 5: ability to have double standards. They don't. They're not shy

1030
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 5: about it. They say, yeah, that's right. We're unfair to

1031
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: your side, and we do what we want for our side,

1032
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Speaker 5: and that's how we play the game. The book Everybody

1033
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Speaker 5: Uncovered how the media got cozy with power, banded its

1034
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Speaker 5: principles and lost the people out now in paperback, Steve

1035
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 5: krackouur hi, buddy, good to have you on. Then we'll

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Speaker 5: talk to you soon.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much, Buck, appreciate it.

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