WEBVTT - NBA Bubble Expectations; 'Decision' at 10, Top 2021 HS Prospects with Rivals Analyst Eric Bossi 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.239 Hey, welcome in. This is the all New All Ball 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:12.799 Doug Gottlieb here and just a reminder, you can listen 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.600 to the daily radio show three to six Eastern twelve 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.840 to three Pacific. You can also listen to in the 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.520 I Heart Radio app or likely wherever you downloaded this podcast, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.040 you can download that daily podcast. Hope you're great, and 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.400 we are creeping into a time in which we're gonna 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.320 have basketball. I guess we have had basketball with TBT, 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.519 with the Basketball Tournament on TV. Get Gets talk a 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.360 little bit about that in a second, But um, like 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.239 NBA basketball is a couple of weeks away, and it's 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.120 gonna be fascinating because as much as we we like 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.040 to act like no one's been doing anything, I think 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.360 the reality is lots of guys have been doing something. Now. Look, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.880 I have heard several players say, well, I hadn't touched 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.279 the ball for a couple of months. I find that 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.960 to be bullshit. Frankly, Um, it doesn't mean that you've 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.600 been doing You are doing full workouts the entire time. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.080 But the I haven't touched the ball in three months, 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.840 Come on, and maybe you haven't, but that's negligence. You 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.800 do well there was just no gym's open. Try that 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.600 one with your coach. You know, we're gonna be reasonable 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.040 about health and injuries and all that other stuff. But 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.760 in the real in the real world of sports, I 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.000 don't buy for a second that guys UH didn't touch 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.840 a basketball or like guys couldn't find a gym, right, 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.720 but everybody has. If you, if you're if you're an 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.959 NBA player, I guarantee there is a basketball gym which 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.880 you could get some shots up. Could you be in 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.039 your regular routine? Of course not, that's that's reasonable. But 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.800 this idea, and I'm not talking about you had a 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.400 Mike Conley set up. He had a full gym in 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.400 your house. Every one of those guys if they wanted to, 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.760 they wanted to, was working on their game or working 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.440 on their body. All right, let's welcome him in. I 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.480 want to talk to hoops. I got some different thoughts. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.760 Eric Bossey, who's UH a lead basketball analysts for Rivals, 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.600 good friend of the program, the radio program, and he 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.840 has been on the pod before. He's awesome. Let's get 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:18.360 after it. Let's let's welcome in. He's Eric Fosse, he's 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.079 a friend of the pod and I think he does 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.480 a great job, and uh, Eric, I really appreciate you 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.480 taking some time with this. Um. What are your expectations 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.600 for basketball in the bubble? Like when I say I 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.959 hadn't played for a couple of months, they're gonna they're 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.280 gonna have they have a short training camp, they start 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.200 games in a couple of weeks. What are your expectations 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.840 for what hoop looks like. Uh, I think it's gonna 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.240 be hopefully a little bit higher level than most people 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.480 are expecting, just because I feel like there's a lot 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.320 of these guys who are ready to get out there 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.680 and continue. But even if if it's not up to 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.080 the standards that we would be expecting normally, we're watching 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.200 basketball in the summer is normally, you know, Jude or 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.000 July basketball is the NBA Finals, right when it's at 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.160 his highest level. I'm sorry, I got a lung to 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:12.120 goron by, so we know that it's not going to 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.080 be perfect, but I don't think it's gonna be terrible, 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.600 And frankly, I really don't care. I'm just so excited 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.880 to get to see basketball. And I don't know, I'm 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.760 kind of a nerd. I keep seeing these random names 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.239 like the Michael Beasley's of the world popping up and 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.239 getting another shot at things. I'm kind of interested to 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.480 see these guys and see, maybe can these guys were 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.680 fighting for the professional lives inject a little bit of 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.600 life into things. Yeah, I mean, look, I think they're 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.360 gonna get buckets. I think whether it's Beasley if he 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.680 gets minutes, or is Jamal Crawford. Um, I don't think 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.720 those those type of guys generally win games, but yes, 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.040 I'm with you, it feels like it for those that 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.880 like an advanced veterans sort of summer league where you're 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.760 gonna match up those type of guys with some there 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.720 will be some G League guys playing at who are hungry, right, hungry, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.480 hungry to play, And that part of it is I 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.360 didn't even think of that. That part of it should 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.560 make it fun. Yeah, it's just obviously that's not who 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.000 you're tuning in for, Like I'm tuning in to see 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.760 who's gonna win a championship. You know how Lebron gonna 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.160 look after all these things like any normal basketball fan, 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:19.240 but also you know, as someone who lives and breeding basketball, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.719 all these different substories that they're really interesting to me. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.360 They're interesting to me as well. Um. I guess my 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:32.000 thought is pre the the the games before the playoffs, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.560 especially the teams that are established, my guests would be 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.760 they cycle through everybody, they work at, they work on stuff, 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.080 they they let everybody plays like right, like if you've 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.440 got a uniform in, some socks and some shoes you're 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.520 getting in. I think that part will be interesting. Up 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.400 for like the Lakers and the Bucks and the Clippers. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.600 My expectations are for them to tinker with some lineups, 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.080 play some depth, you know, try some different things as well, 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.520 and it will be I can advance preseason, which I 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.960 which I really like. And then you have all those kinds. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.400 Then you have the teams that are not playoff teams 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.520 and that's you know, like like the Washington Wizards and 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.560 how they play will be interesting. And then you have 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.640 the Nets who all their best players decided to to 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.279 not show up. What what I want you? When you 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.880 see some of these dudes complaining about food and accommodations, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:28.360 what do you think? Uh? On one hand, I kind 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:33.440 of get it because they're they're they're they're they're rich, right, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.839 And I think any rich person or a lot of 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.320 rich people are a lot of people would means in 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.160 that situation who are used to a certain level of service. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.520 There's there's gonna be some grass and we'd like to 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.560 say that we wouldn't, but you know, I mean, I'm 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:52.080 far from rich. And as I've gone through the years, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.039 I've been known to complain a time or two about 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.520 a hotel that a lot of people would be very 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.200 happy to stay in. But I think right now a 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.240 lot of it is on the tongue in cheek and 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.840 just kind of a woes me. But I really don't 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.440 think it's that big of an issue. And you know, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.159 there's lots of things for me to get upset about 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.960 in my life NBA players compared complaining about their food 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:16.880 and Disney just isn't on tie on my list of 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.440 things to worry about. No, I don't. But I also 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:24.479 think that that it's it's um here's the part that 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.960 I was thinking of, where on one level, we're starting 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.200 to realize or maybe the guys are starting to realize 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.960 that they do have power behind their voice, right like, like, look, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.160 your respected guys, because in your chosen craft, you've made 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.800 it and many of these guys, as you've known following 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.800 them through the recruiting circuit, like they're they're actually very 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.599 very bright guys who would be successful in whatever field 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.680 they chosen. They're just bodies and skills, and early development 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.720 was basketball, and so they've used that and it's built 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.520 their platform. Be like wow, you know, there's a lot 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.599 of the rest of America who has come to figure 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.840 out that these guys are actually super, super bright, active 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.760 citizens the United States. The juctaposition of that with the 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.280 bitching about food and a decent hotel room, you know, 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.040 where America goes to vacation with their kids. I just 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.880 think it's a it's a little bit of a dicey 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.160 thing because the old picture is worth a thousand words, 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.720 like video with commentary is worth even more words than that. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.120 And I just think you have to be very You're like, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:29.920 you don't have to kiss everybody's ass and tell them 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.000 how great Disney World is and how amazing it is 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.600 and when you're showing a regular hotel room. But I 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.320 I just think there's a limit, and you've got to 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.280 be smart with your use of social media. If you're 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.320 gonna use social media just to have fun and to 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.040 clown around with what's going on in quarantine. Cool, but 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.640 use it for that and then you you want to 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:51.440 you know, you want social change. I think that can 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:55.520 be really hard for most people's brains, like my ear brain, 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.680 and I think a lot of people we understand there's 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.960 a difference there. I don't know if that's how more 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.600 people take can make the switch in the social media. Oh, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.800 now you're serious about demanding social change. Five minutes ago, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.640 you're complaining about the fact that you've got a sandwich 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.640 in some sort of plastic container. Yeah, I think I 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.600 think that's a really fair point, doug Um. You know, 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.560 I think what you're getting to is because some of 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.280 the message there, some of the greater, broader, more important 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.880 societal messages they're looking at me made, can some people 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.280 look at them to go, well, I can't take this 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.320 guy seriously. He's he's graping about I was chicken looks 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.600 is staying in the Swan and Disney, Right. I get that, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.920 and I see that, and I see some merit in that. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:40.600 But I also think that anyone who's small minded enough 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:46.360 to dismiss someone uh position on social issues or things 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.839 like that because they complain about some food, you're probably 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.160 not changing their mind anyway. Yeah, that's a it's a 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.559 that's a very smart point me, Eric Bossi joining us 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:02.439 here in the All Ball podcast years ago. Lebron um, 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.080 it wasn't just that he chose Miami. It was the 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.520 way in which he went about it. And look, you've 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:12.280 been around for hundreds of these. I can remember the 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.120 time where I put on the Notre Dame hat to 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.760 choose Notre Dame and we had a little press conference. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.600 It's like a tradition that seems to be you know, 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.679 like I remember, was it like Johnny be Good? Right? 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.080 That was the but in that movie in the I 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.560 think the eighties Anthony Michael Johnny be Good, where you 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.600 have a big press conference you announce where you're gonna 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.680 go to school. That was kind of what Lebron did, 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.840 only he hired Jim Gray. They did in Connecticut. There 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.280 was some weird aspects to it. First thing ten years 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:45.720 ago when that announcement came down. Where were you, Um, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.640 I was in a gym watching a basketball so I 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:54.160 didn't even get to watch it on TV. Where gosh, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.280 I can't remember. I would imagine probably probably at the 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.320 Peach Jamber getting ready for the Pam. But I know 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.000 I didn't watch it on TV, and so given the 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.640 time of year, I'm gonna assume I was watching summer basketball, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.720 all right, So what do what? What was? Do you 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.120 remember what you thought? Was you just nodding or did 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.640 you think it was weird? Like? What do you think? 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.680 There was a lot of talk about, cause certainly it 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.520 caused a lot of things. Um to me, I thought 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.240 it was I didn't think it was. I thought a 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.800 little bit much ado about not thinking And when I 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.800 saw the video of it, I thought back to when 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.360 Kobe Bryant announced coming out of high school, because he 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.440 said something very similar. He said that he was gonna 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.200 take his talents to the NBA, and so I thought 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.319 maybe it was kind of a nod to Kobe in it. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.640 And then all of a sudden, you know, things just exploded. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.920 I guess I didn't realize that it would it would 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.120 rub so many people the wrong way. I was just like, 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.520 you know, this is a a young guy making a 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.400 big deal, trying to do something different, and maybe it 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.040 didn't go off perfectly, but you know, I guess I'm 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.920 more of a don't get too fired up about things 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.160 you can't control and I'm sure in retrospect Lebron would 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.120 like to do it differently, But I think the bigger 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:07.520 conversation and it was what it led to, what's kind 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.560 of the formation of the super keep and stuff that 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:14.920 are coming about. And I think that more more than 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.560 how he did it, there's what really got some people going. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:24.360 Did well it was it good for basketball? Yeah? I 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.439 mean I don't I don't think it was. I don't 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.680 think it was bad for basketball. Um, you know, we 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.720 all like to see guys compete ball man. I kind 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.200 of like seeing really good players play with other really 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.079 good players, and that movement and they got going with 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.520 with him and and and Wade and Bosh and it 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.840 ushered in kind of a new era whereas you had 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.920 super teams in the past, but they were they were 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.400 built from within because guys were locked in the longer 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.240 contracts and free agency was so much different and stuff 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.440 like that. So it was kind of I guess the kickoff, 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.880 kickstart and the jumping off to the NBA that we've 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.400 see right now. And you know, as I mentioned to you, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.480 Sorry if I'm rambling here, I mentioned to you, I 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.480 thought that was I thought it was a little bit 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:17.360 of byproduct of the summer basketball system that Lebron came 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.680 up in. When you know, he was traveling to play 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.000 with the team out of Oakland with Kendrick Perkins in 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.200 leon Po and stuff like that. And I thought it 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.800 was just a manifestation of the summer thing that most 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.480 of those younger star NBA players who didn't send much 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.280 time in college came up through making its way to 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.920 the NBA, and those guys kind of learning that hey, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.800 you know, we got flown all around in summer ball. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.640 Now we could kind of we could kind of take 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:48.240 controls things and kind of reshape the NBA. Yeah. The problem, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:53.040 the downside to it is um again, the juxtaposition with 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.440 the National Football League, where player movement is not, especially 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.280 with the most important position at quarterback. It rarely happens 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.679 in the prime of somebody's prime, with somebody's career because 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.680 really they have to want to get rid of you 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.600 in order for that to happen. Right, Like Brady left, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.600 but Brady's forty three years old. Uh, bred Farv left, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.520 but bred Farv had retired and come back. It was 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.120 his third time he was trying to come back. Um, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.199 Philip Rivers is like thirty eight, thirty nine years old, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.280 and that that's the only where's you know in the 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.120 primus career is no chance he's getting out of sane 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.400 diego no chance. And these guys moved for the most 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.400 part in the prime of their career. And what I 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:35.640 think that does is between the teams, the familiar familiarity, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:40.240 and even the opponents of the teams. You you know, well, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.920 every year when you played the Annapolis Colts, you had 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.480 Paid Manning. Every year when you play the Patriots, you 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.880 got Tom Brady, et cetera. Like there's a it's better 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.960 for the sport. And I think the same is true 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.080 with the NBA. And I again, I understand the Lebron 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.680 like for to me, the Lebron thing was more. Also, 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.320 it wasn't just about playing with otter players than he 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.640 had in Cleveland, or for better organization. But I also 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.480 think it was about a kind of a coming of age. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.440 He hadn't gotten a chance to get out of Ohio. 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.920 He went to high school there, he played professionally there, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.000 and like at some point, like man, I gotta see 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.280 what the you know, I gotta see what the some 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.680 other part of the world is, Like I gotta gotta 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.400 grow up, and I think he did, and and I 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.560 think even losing that first NBA Finals helped him grow 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.600 up and and then and then obviously came back and 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.400 made it a success story. But I understood it. I 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.320 can understand it and tell you he had every right 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.040 to do it and get why playing around better players 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:39.520 already better. But I think it it won change the 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.320 trajectory of how we will always look at him fair unfair. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.160 That's just the reality of it. And secondly, I think 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.280 it changed the landscape of the NBA for the worst 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.240 because guys don't have the same affinity for where they're playing, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.280 and they're waiting for that moment where they can get 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.120 out and they can, you know, find the guys that 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.280 they've always wanted to play with and create their own 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.440 dream team. Yeah. I think you've got some really fair points, fair, Doug. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.880 And I think also though, if we're gonna hold players 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.880 to those kind of standards on things, I think ownership 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.520 and general managers and people of that nature and how 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.920 they treat those star players has changed quite a bit too. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.280 I don't think there's quite as much loyalty from that 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.760 end of things, and so I think that has uh, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.920 enabled these guys and emboldened them to grab the bull 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.240 by the horns and do this more on their own. Whereas, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.240 like you said, you're talking about these NFL quarterbacks, there 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.400 was never any questions if those guys are gonna get 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.920 brought back. There's never any question is if Pat Mahomes 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.600 was gonna get taken care of about the Kanas City Chiefs, right, 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.640 I feel in basketball, maybe there's been a little bit 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.160 more questions on those guys, and especially now with the 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:55.920 way the contracts have taken off and everything and things 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.800 of guys you know, well, you know, we really want 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.880 to keep rad Beal around. Are we gonna pay him 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.240 this next super Max? When you know Bill has been 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.720 nothing but the best guy guy could be for the Wizards, 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.560 And what have they done to help him out? Could 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.440 you blame him for wanting to jump out on his 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.160 next chance? You know, So there's a lot of sides 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.520 you could take him. But I think you've got a 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:20.640 fair point. And it's definitely I think it's maybe a 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.120 little bit of different and how the different viewers and 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.040 consumers of the NBA look at things. I think the 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:33.800 more new school Twitter NBA fans probably don't care about it. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.920 But the old school guys, the more purist and thing 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.280 like you know, who sit around and it really want 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:41.800 a team and a guy that they can root for 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.720 through his entire career in one place. They don't like it. 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.680 But guys, I think now there's more fans of players 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.320 versus fans of thieves. And it's probably a result of 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:57.520 guys jumping around. So it's a little bit of both. Yeah, um, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.280 I and I do think though it, you know, I 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.280 think the AU mentality also has has changed things. I know, 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.200 the Oakland Soldiers thing was always interesting. And look, it's 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.919 interesting because my my late father, I mean, we used 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.960 to bring guys in. Ronnie Henderson stayed in my house 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.200 for us a summer. I mean, you've got to go 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.840 back through I could. We used to have a guy 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.480 from Roman Rushenko who played with Ronnie Henderson and l 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:27.040 s U uh uh yeah. I can think of like 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.240 thirty guys who would stay at my house from out 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.800 of the area. And then AU of course tried to, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.240 uh tried to, you know, change the rule where you 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.680 gotta play with guys kind of in your area. But 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.239 but you can get around that by saying you're going 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.440 to prep school or whatever. Like there's there was always loopholes. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:50.200 But it's interesting because that movement combined with Lebrons movement UM, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.159 and I think some player empowerment because of social media, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.240 and I think that's why we have so much movement 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:01.000 in college basketball, which I definitely think has hurt the work. Again, 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.320 I'm a transfer and I'm not sure and for people 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.360 don't know, like, yeah, I got in trouble, but I 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.640 was thinking about transferring anyway, just for a better fit 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.439 and to play with better players. Um. But I also 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.879 think that uh so I'd be hypocritical if I didn't 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.600 mention that. But I think all of this movement it 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.960 makes it hard when you turn on college basketball on 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.560 TV to know who's playing for who, because there's so 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.919 much player movement from when you're next, no question, it 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.320 all triples down and it's all part of kind of 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.399 instant gratification. And you know there are a lot of 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:40.040 players who like this. If you're a school and you're 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.000 recruited kid who went to three different high schools and 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.280 play for four different summer teams, I've got no problem 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.800 with the kid who did that. He needs to do 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.000 whatever he thinks isn't his best interest, right. But if 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.760 you're a school and he recruit that kid expecting that 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.359 you've got the secret saft to be the reason that 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.160 he's not going to switch, well, then I pack it's 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.800 kind of foolish on your part to expect a different result. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.680 You now, if you can make, if you can if 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.160 you can change that and you can get that kid 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.800 to stay, then wow, you know, more power to you. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.680 You've done something impressive. But a lot of it is 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.840 is guys taking guys that they know they're going to transfer, 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.359 or as you know this, every spring, we got a 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:23.720 lot of we get a lot of kids to get 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.040 reached on by schools, and some of us an industry, 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.239 we joke around with each other like there's a lot 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.960 of kids where we could probably write their transfer story 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.040 the same day we write their commitment story, just because 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:40.639 we know either a history of jumping around or we 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.720 know that a schools taking a guy just to take 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:50.080 a guy. So until we get schools not taking guys 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:51.800 that they know they don't really have any future plans 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.080 for they just want practice bodies. And until we've got 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:58.200 guys going to places that they're serious about, it's gonna 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.479 be a problem that the answers have to from all around. So, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.160 you know, I think the NBA and some of those 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.040 things like it contribue it. Because you dream of playing that, 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.760 you watch those guys doing it suponsciously, you think you 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.560 need to do that too. It's a human nature, right. 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.600 But the solution is it's as you know, Doug, it's 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.240 it's a really big conversation and and and it involves 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:23.439 a lot of moving parts. Um, okay, so what you 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.760 for for people don't know? Ericson National Basketball Analysts for arrivals. 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.080 You can follow on Twitter at boss Hoops. You can 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.960 follo him on Facebook which is facebook dot com, slash 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:39.080 e Boss Hoops on Instagram at the Boss Hoops as well. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:43.479 He's McDonald's all American voter. This is your time of year, right, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.480 this is July. You're supposed to be pee jam Vegas, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.960 Indian speace, you know, maybe coming here and watch some 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.960 pangos or some l A staff or whatever. Um, how 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.800 how are you able to do your job to evaluate? 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.280 And we didn't have a conclusion to high school most 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.080 high school hoops. We didn't have spring and we're not 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:10.399 having summer. Yeah, it's it's been tough dugs because for 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:15.360 the most part, most state High Schools Association has got 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.440 their seasons completed or at least to a final four, 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:22.439 quarterfinals or something like that, so you're able to go 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.879 back and review the last month and a half of 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.720 the season. So because there's so much more film available, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:33.320 whether it be with huddle or NHS or streaming services 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.320