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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's time for another episode of the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 2: We were so pumped to be here. It is Bachelor

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Speaker 2: in Paradise time. We are here, just ready to dive in. Ashley,

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Speaker 2: I will describe this episode in my opinion as less chaos.

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Speaker 2: It was not so confusing to me. This actually fell

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Speaker 2: us like a very like old school Paradise episode to me,

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Speaker 2: well pulled.

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Speaker 3: There was nothing that left me going hmmm, except okay,

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Speaker 3: this one thing Tanner giving Rachel de Rose was a

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Speaker 3: HM for me, just because he had that amazing date

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Speaker 3: with Davia or so he said, yeah this okay, I

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Speaker 3: would I would agree with you.

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Speaker 2: For the most part, this episode felt very straightforward, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes those hmmm moments are really good in Paradise because

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Speaker 2: they keep us wondering, questioning. The problem I think that

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Speaker 2: we've seen so far this season is this storytelling doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel complete because we don't know where Dobby and Tanner

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Speaker 2: went wrong. They were very strong. He was very okay

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Speaker 2: dropping Cat. Maybe he just wanted to drop Cat. It

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Speaker 2: could be, but I just wish we knew why that

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Speaker 2: that relationship did not flourish.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally agree, and like it really start, all

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Speaker 3: the girls who came in last week ended up leaving,

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Speaker 3: so it was like, why do we even.

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Speaker 4: Have last week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we never got the storylines of why

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Speaker 2: those relationships that felt so beautiful and romantic and perfect

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Speaker 2: during their dates, why they didn't stay together through this week?

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, like Blake, look, Blake, who had a great

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Speaker 3: date with Genevieve.

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Speaker 4: Jess was like, nope, Jess, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: And Jess is making out with Tyler. We don't know

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Speaker 2: where that goes because he's back horses and.

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Speaker 3: Meads, so just we don't address it. Just he made

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Speaker 3: out with Jess and then but Mercedes is his girl.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just feel like we're getting

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Speaker 2: incomplete stories and that doesn't feel good for me because

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Speaker 2: I'm having to make a lot of assumptions, and you know,

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Speaker 2: when I make assumptions, they typically aren't right, and so

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening. Anyways, let's start at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of this episode. We do come off of last

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Speaker 2: week's episode, I think, intrigued at what relationships would stay together.

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Speaker 2: We had talked during last week's episode that it felt

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Speaker 2: like most of these relationships were not strong. In fact,

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Speaker 2: we couldn't really name one that we were that confident

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Speaker 2: would be together at the end. Charity lost and does

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Speaker 2: come down to the beach, and that's when she brings

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Speaker 2: up the Aaron B situation with Eliza. Eliza is shooken

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Speaker 2: by the news, and Aaron B is confused and he

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Speaker 2: gives a very poor explanation for how this whole thing

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Speaker 2: went down. So we are left going, there's no way

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Speaker 2: this continues, like it just feels like it's on a

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Speaker 2: dead end. However, we do see and we pick up

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Speaker 2: this storyline at the first of the episode.

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Speaker 4: And it all kind of just.

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Speaker 3: It becomes not a big deal because then they kind

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Speaker 3: of admit that.

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Speaker 4: We don't know the whole story. We only have DMS

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Speaker 3: She's a quote disgruntled x yeah, and we can only

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Speaker 3: you know, we have two sides of the story here,

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Speaker 3: and we only know one of these people, and that

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Speaker 3: is Aaron. So eventually it seems like Charity and Eliza

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Speaker 3: both kind of say, Okay, if this is what you're saying,

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Speaker 3: then we're going to choose to believe you. But Eliza

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Speaker 3: does say like all right, I'm choosing to believe you,

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Speaker 3: but I'm also still very nervous, and I'm I'm far

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Speaker 3: more or less I'm far less confident comfortable that I

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Speaker 2: Well here's my question. I have always thought Charity was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, obviously we love her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she showed great judgment, she was consistent, she was

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Speaker 2: clear and concise. My question with this is not a

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Speaker 2: they've sent you twenty messages and all these things that

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Speaker 2: Charity is explaining to Eliza and Aaron, Yeah, why in

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Speaker 4: And that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: And so why would she be bringing it up to

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Speaker 2: But it does feel very disgruntled and a tag chaotic.

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Speaker 2: And so why would Charity say, yeah, you just need

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why would she say anything? I don't know, because

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Speaker 3: you know what, even if Charity is wonderful, all of

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Speaker 4: A little drama.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it's human instinct, yeah, but it does.

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Speaker 2: I think at that point, once Charity fully explained what happened,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if I could take

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could take.

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Speaker 4: Much substance from I don't know, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know if I could take much substance from like what

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Speaker 2: not dismiss her claims necessarily, but I'd be a lot

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Speaker 4: Family and friends.

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Speaker 3: Is pretty weird because it's not like Charity ended up

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Speaker 3: away when she was getting these messages. Yeah if she yeah,

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Speaker 3: some knows. But like if she ended up with him,

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Speaker 4: With somebody who's not who they say they are.

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Speaker 3: But just just just him being on the show seems

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Speaker 2: Sure, And I mean if it was over and she

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Speaker 2: both agreed last week that as long as the relationship

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Speaker 2: he's not doing anything wrong. If they were still together,

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Speaker 2: a lot of weird. Yeah, But you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: You're very good with that, But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That seems a little tacky, A little tacky, sure, I

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Speaker 2: But again, he made the decision to leave, and at

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Speaker 2: that point, if you're dating, you can just pretty much consider, hey,

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Speaker 2: I think this is a really mean thing to do

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Speaker 2: I'm hurt. I'm I'm you know, confused. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why our relationship ended like this, or that we had

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Speaker 2: I would say it's over. I am moving on with

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Speaker 2: then for me to like message the lead and be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're dating at one point, maybe like a month before

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Speaker 2: to build this relationship to the place that it was before,

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Speaker 2: because I definitely don't get the sense that it is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she does say like let's sleep on this, but

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Speaker 3: Cat and John Henry are another big storyline in this episode,

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Speaker 3: because you know he is in between Kat and Olivia.

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Speaker 3: Cat's really like throwing herself at him and listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: To be like looking for the love of his life.

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Speaker 3: That's just the vibes that he puts out, and I

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Speaker 2: I don't think John Henry knows what in the world

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Speaker 4: He's a little spacey, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just like, you know, shiny new things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not I don't think. I mean, he's definitely intelligent,

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Speaker 2: when he talks to Olivia and tries to clean things up,

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Speaker 2: I am still very concerned that I was really hoping.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is evil of me. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I was really hoping. In this episode, some like new

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Speaker 2: I'm going after him.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to see her flip flop again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of did. Is that weird?

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Speaker 3: No, it's fine. It's fun to watch. She's wild TV,

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Speaker 3: and so is Olivia. So that's why it's kind of

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Speaker 3: they just are the best when it comes to talking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really good at it. Well, I would say

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Speaker 2: Kat is not very good at it, but she's down

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Speaker 2: to do it. Like she's going to scream about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like she's not like making great like points and she's

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Speaker 2: not closing out arguments and she's not like putting somebody

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Speaker 2: and it's wild to me. She has to admit that

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Speaker 3: We move on, Okay, we move on to Justin Blake,

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Speaker 3: Well, they're not going to get engaged, but I think

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Speaker 2: Well we'll see, we'll put a bed.

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Speaker 3: well we'll bet you know what, we can bet massage

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Speaker 2: I'm good with that. I love that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna win this strange of us we have. You guys,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't understand. Ben goes around massages everybody's shoulders every

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Speaker 2: It's my way of giving a hug.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so sweet.

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Speaker 4: He's the best at it, like the absolute best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is my way of giving a hug. That

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Speaker 3: So anyways, Tanner and is kissing, and how Tanner kissed

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Speaker 3: So Tanner is definitely the Bachelor of Paradise right now.

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Speaker 2: I do want to know what happens to his relationship.

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Speaker 2: He goes on a beautiful date with Davia and it

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Speaker 4: Very weird, very weird.

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Speaker 3: And then Olivia and John Henry have a conversation where

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Speaker 2: I mean, here's a deal, Johnny.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry about that. It's gonna make it worse

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just I mean, this poor dude is gonna

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get spit out in the most an opportune place.

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Speaker 4: Really. Why does he feel like just surfer bro who's

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Speaker 2: Down to have fun Because he says the words to Kat,

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Speaker 4: It's a weird couple.

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Speaker 2: We all know they're not gonna be we're not gonna

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Speaker 3: Ben, I'm thinking that maybe it doesn't make sense, so

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Speaker 4: She's going to be the dominant in every fifty shades

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Speaker 3: But she's gonna be that personality in any relationship that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just cool. I'm just glad to be here.

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Speaker 2: And you want my tongue down your throat because I

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Speaker 2: can do that. I can provide, I can provide that.

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Speaker 2: I got you want to you want to see my piercing.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's right. He was so into his tongue piercing.

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Speaker 3: Just it's why I kind of like hope that these

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Speaker 2: That's such a weird scene.

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Speaker 4: We started this.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it wasn't confusing to me because the relationships on

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Speaker 4: You don't have any context.

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Speaker 2: She's just gone.

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Speaker 4: It's like, seriously so weird.

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Speaker 2: No, there's like Biden Like Braiden's like I don't know

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Speaker 3: They say producers don't know where she went, which is

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Speaker 4: She said that she's afraid.

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Speaker 3: The only thing we get is like one little SoundBite

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Speaker 4: It's not real.

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Speaker 3: With Braiden, it's like, Okay, well there's other people that

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Speaker 4: Maybe she was scared she was gonna get villainized, well, how.

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Speaker 2: About you stick around long enough to figure out if

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Speaker 3: I was excited because I thought that that maybe Rachel

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Speaker 4: Did you foresee this because in my head I was.

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Speaker 3: Thinking that Tanner was probably going to pick Davia and

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Speaker 2: Yes, and no, I think actually we didn't get the

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Speaker 2: Tanner's like, well, I'm gonna give to Rachel and then

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Speaker 2: they're all here and you can figure this out later.

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Speaker 2: I think there was probably studia. Okay, so yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I feel very overwhelmed here. I kind of want to

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Speaker 2: We don't see any of that with Becca. In fact,

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Speaker 2: My first question was, who's Becca? I don't know who

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Speaker 2: Becka is. I'm trying to figure out because we just

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Speaker 2: is like, we need to figure out a way to

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Speaker 4: They definitely need to keep Olivia around.

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Speaker 3: Somehow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Beca's gone Long Street.

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Speaker 4: Guess what. Producers don't know where you are.

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Speaker 3: Producers are there saying you gotta leave because we need

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Speaker 3: Olivia stick around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He and Braiden are going to work out. He's yeah. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: So she's gone, which means braid now gives his rose

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Speaker 2: to Olivia, which means Olivia is able to stay for

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Speaker 2: one more week. And we're all very excited about that

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00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: because honestly, I don't know what this show is this

444
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: year because Ben.

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Speaker 4: Freaking loves her. She's so freaking she is like, she delivers.

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Speaker 5: She delivers the most she's ever delivered for me personally

447
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Speaker 5: when Michael walks down the stairs, because she goes from

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Speaker 5: being sad because she has this disappointing conversation the next

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Speaker 5: day after the rose ceremony with John Henry where he

450
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Speaker 5: was like, hey, I feel guilty and she's like, okay,

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Speaker 5: thanks for talking to me.

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Speaker 4: I hope it makes you feel less guilty.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, back over to Kat and then all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, this guy Michael comes down and she is

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Speaker 3: like that Michael is a good looking man. Yes, girl,

456
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Speaker 3: she won eighties. She's not going to get the row

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Speaker 3: she's not going to get the date card. You know this.

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Speaker 3: They leave us on this cliffhanger. Who's Michael going to

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Speaker 3: give the date card to? And you just know it's

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Speaker 3: not going to be Herdy.

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Speaker 2: Who else would say? Yes? Rachel? Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He did pull over Mercedes, which and he's not gonna

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Speaker 3: Mercedes isn't going to go because Tyler says that they're

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Speaker 3: like all in they can all see a future with

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Speaker 3: each other. But I'm also like Tyler, when you get

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Speaker 3: to tell Mercedes that you made out with Jess, he.

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Speaker 2: Probably already has. We just haven't seen it again. I

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00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot we're not seeing. I just

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Speaker 2: don't know what the show would be this year without Olivia.

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Speaker 2: I feel like she if you looked at Cat like

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Speaker 2: Bachelor data and you saw screen time, it would be

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Speaker 2: like Kat and Olivia seventy percent of the screen time

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Speaker 2: and the rest of them like thirty percent, kind of

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Speaker 2: like when they're on a date, but the rest of

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Speaker 2: the time is just the two of them either doing

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Speaker 2: the itms or trying to figure out who they're going

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Speaker 2: to date. I think Olivia has made great television. I

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Speaker 2: don't know Olivia personally, but she is.

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Speaker 4: Would you wait until she comes on the pod?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I cannot wait. It's going to be so fun.

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Speaker 2: I just want her to talk. I just want to

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Speaker 2: listen and laugh and just be like you say the

483
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Speaker 2: most wildly ridiculous, funny things and all of it somehow

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Speaker 2: makes sense and I don't know how you do it.

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Speaker 3: Ben, we should have her be our official fill in

486
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Speaker 3: or like, whenever one of us can't do the podcast,

487
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Speaker 3: we should always have Olivia on speed dial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know she is not afraid to say

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Speaker 2: some stuff during headlines either. I'm going to breakdown bachelor headlines. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so Michael does coming down to the beach. He is

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Speaker 2: the newcomer. He's an attractive man with great dimples. There's

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Speaker 2: not a lot of Yeah, there's not a lot of

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Speaker 2: single people on the beach. It is kind of up

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Speaker 2: to like Olivia and rachel On who maybe would be interested.

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Speaker 2: I feel like at this point, going on to day,

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Speaker 2: I think everybody else for the most part, has at

497
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Speaker 2: this point in the season said no, let's either let's

498
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Speaker 2: give this a go with the person I'm with or

499
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Speaker 2: if this doesn't work, I'm probably done here. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: they can tease us, I do think Olivia goes on

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Speaker 2: this date, because I just don't. He never pulled Rachel.

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Speaker 2: We never saw it. And so if he asks Rachel

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Speaker 2: old Mercedes, Yeah, but I mean I think I don't

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00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: think Mercedes goes. I don't think Kylie will go with him.

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Speaker 2: Who we saw him pull as well.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was Kylie who was pulled.

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Speaker 2: Both they both pulled. Oh yeah, well, and so I

508
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: just don't think either of them are going on a date.

509
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: And so, you know, the only other person we saw

510
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Speaker 2: him talk to is Olivia. So if he pulls anybody

511
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: other than Lyvia, it's gonna be very confusing for the

512
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: audience because they're like, so you talked to three girls

513
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: and you didn't like any of them, and so you're

514
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: just going with the next best option.

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00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you wanted to take one that wasn't available.

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00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 3: All right, Hopefully Olivia gets the date. The other big

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00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 3: tease that we have for next week is the fact

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Speaker 3: that Katie comes down and we did touch on it recently,

519
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 3: but she says something to Blake that is heavy, or

520
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: so it seems when clipped up the way we see it.

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Speaker 4: She goes, if I could go back and redo it

522
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Speaker 4: all I would.

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Speaker 3: I think my theory is that she feels really guilty

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Speaker 3: about how things ended, and I don't think it was

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Speaker 3: the happiest of splits. I think that there's rumors that

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Speaker 3: like she kind of blindsided him, that their breakup was

527
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Speaker 3: when they're away from each other.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he was in Africa.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm making things up, but I think that what

530
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Speaker 3: she's gonna go and redo is just like the ending

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Speaker 3: of their relationship, and she feels bad and that's for

532
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Speaker 3: the first time they're talking in two years.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to see it. I just I'm I'm kind

534
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: of in this season of life where I just love breakups,

535
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: rekindling and getting on in a good place. I'm a

536
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: big fan of watching him happen right in front of

537
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: my eyes. It's great, it's really fun. Hey, we still

538
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: haven't seen Ashley. It's kind of been like disappeared. We

539
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: still have a wedding supposedly in Paradise. Do we have

540
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: any better idea of who this is gonna be? I know, no,

541
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: it was teased like, wh who are these people?

542
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Speaker 1: Are?

543
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: Just like a random wedding now or.

544
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Speaker 4: The longest season?

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00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 3: So like we might have we have weeks left I

546
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: feel I feel like we have at least three weeks

547
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: left of show, so who knows how these things might evolve,

548
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: and who knows, maybe just a random ass wedding on

549
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: the beach. It's a date dumble across it. I know

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00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: it's gonna be like that prom date. You know, It's

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Speaker 3: like there had Van Donta and it's like, oh my god,

552
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: a wedding.

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00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: I imagine getting married to you right next to me.

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00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's that. I mean, there are rumors

555
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: that it was Gary, but I'm like, Gary season hadn't

556
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: even filmed yet, so it's not Gary. Yeah, like it

557
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: was after like this faradest filmed a long time ago,

558
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: so who knows. Anyways, We'll be back next week with

559
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: another breakdown of Bachelor in Paradise. Hey, this week we

560
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: have some really cool stuff. We had Rodney Matthews join

561
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: us for headlines and we also did an in depth

562
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: with Rodney. We're gonna still do the Golden Bachelor breakdown,

563
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: so it's a big week of podcasts but also a

564
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: really great week of podcasts. Rodney opens up about his

565
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: new relationship and so the big question there that I

566
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: think everyone's answer is, is it the real dealer or

567
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: not so Tune into our episode to get all the

568
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: details on his new relationship and where they're at currently

569
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Speaker 2: and what he sees as a future for the two

570
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: of them. But until next time, I've been Ben, I've

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Speaker 2: been Ashley.

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Speaker 4: Bye, guys, we love you. You're the best.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to our voices all

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00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: the time. When you come up to us and you're like,

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00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: hell the podcast, I'm like.

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00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 4: You listen to my voice.

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00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: That's the kindest of things. And I'm gonna start screeching now.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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