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Speaker 1: with you as always as we are patiently waiting for

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Speaker 1: I think probably a best case scenario. That's best case.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to say best case, because

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Speaker 1: best case, who knows, he could be a freak and

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Speaker 1: be ready in six months, starts training camp, placed through

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Speaker 1: great good, starts on a opening day. Okay, there's best

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Speaker 1: case scenario, but that's yeah, I don't think that's realistic

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Speaker 1: even by with today's but you never know. With what

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's jumping around here like a like a

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Speaker 1: like a bullfrog. I mean, he's hopping around on this

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Speaker 1: practice field showing you, hey, all right, I'm feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, it's it's pretty interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: quickly these guys come back from this stuff. It's remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Other NFL news and notes, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell fielded

436
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Speaker 1: over a dozen questions on Deshaun Watson as he addressed

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Speaker 1: the media at the conclusion of the owners meetings down

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Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, Florida, and probably the most important comment

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Speaker 1: he made on it was that the league's people are

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Speaker 1: still working on the Deshaun Watson investigation. He said, obviously

441
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Speaker 1: these are serious charges. We now at least have resolution

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Speaker 1: from the criminal side of it, since there were no

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Speaker 1: charges levied, no indictments on the criminal side, but there

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Speaker 1: are still civil charges going on. He said, their investigators

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Speaker 1: hopefully will have access to more information and that will

446
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Speaker 1: be helpful in getting to the conclusion of what are

447
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Speaker 1: the facts and whether or not there was a violation

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Speaker 1: of the Personal Conduct Policy. But that determination is going

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Speaker 1: to be made by a joint Disciplinary Officer that was

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Speaker 1: established by the NFLPA and the NFL. She will make

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Speaker 1: the decision when all the facts are in and we'll

452
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Speaker 1: see there is no timeframe, according to Commissioner Goodell. He

453
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Speaker 1: was also asked on if the league would allow him

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Speaker 1: to personally interview Watson on this subject, and he said

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Speaker 1: that's a decision that's made by the league's investigators whether

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Speaker 1: a one on one, face to face interview with Commissioner

457
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: Goodell is warranted based on their findings. So basically we're

458
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Speaker 1: in a holding pattern here while the investigation continues at

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Speaker 1: the league level into Deshaun Watson's off the field transgressions

460
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: alleged off the field transgressions. So that's where we are

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00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: with that, right It's a wait and see. As the

462
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: season rolls closer and closer, that's going to put more

463
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: and more pressure that they got to do something either

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Speaker 1: if I mean they're not, what do you think are

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Speaker 1: they going to suspend him before he takes the field

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Speaker 1: or are they gonna wait let him play through the season?

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Speaker 1: If this is strung out through months and months, are

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Speaker 1: they're gonna him play and then suspend him after all

469
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Speaker 1: this comes out in the water, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I think timing wise, I think they're hoping they can

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Speaker 1: have it wrapped up, if not by the preseason, certainly

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Speaker 1: by the regular season. So there's some clarity on the subject.

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Speaker 1: The Browns know what they're in for, not that they

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Speaker 1: deserve any advanced notice. They they took the risk and

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Speaker 1: signing this guy to a two hundred and whatever million

476
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: dollar contract extension. Two hundred and thirty million dollar contract extension.

477
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: They're taking on all the risks. So they knew that

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Speaker 1: league discipline was a potential part of the equation here

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Speaker 1: and that he might miss games. So you don't have

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Speaker 1: to cater to them in terms of when you reach

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Speaker 1: a decision. If I'm if I'm Roger Goodell, I really

482
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Speaker 1: put the I say, listen, you are suspended until all

483
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Speaker 1: twenty two of those cases are are Oh, you're going

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Speaker 1: to do it before the commisions are now, Well, I

485
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Speaker 1: suppose I'm going to suspend him and definitely until all

486
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Speaker 1: twenty two of those cases are are cleared up to

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Speaker 1: the satisfaction of the accusers. Then we'll talk about getting

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Speaker 1: back in the league. He's gone, now, Yeah, I don't

489
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: know if you can do that now, because you're kind

490
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Speaker 1: of trying to put trying to put the cat back

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Speaker 1: in the hat. No, I don't care about that. I

492
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Speaker 1: just get you stay away from us until you solve

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Speaker 1: all that. Then we'll talk about you coming back and

494
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: playing football, because you're nothing but a headache right now. Well,

495
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: he already said that the commissioner's exemp list is not

496
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: an option he's going to use in this particular case,

497
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Speaker 1: so that's not on the table according to him. Where

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Speaker 1: he goes from there, I don't know, I don't I mean,

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Speaker 1: I suppose in a scenario where if they finish their

500
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Speaker 1: own internal investigation prior to the outcome of the civil suits,

501
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: maybe it goes that way. But something tells me knowing

502
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: the Players Association is going to push back if they

503
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Speaker 1: feel in any way that the league is premature in

504
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: its decision making. I'm inclined to believe they're gonna wait

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00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: until the civil suits are heard and adjudicated, but that

506
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: could take months. I mean we could be wealth into

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Speaker 1: the season before they wrap all that up. It mean

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Speaker 1: we thought there might be some resolution to all of

509
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: this during the season last year when he was not

510
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: playing and get being paid not to play, and that

511
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: never came to fruition, And we're still here six months

512
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Speaker 1: later waiting on the same results. So your guess is

513
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: as good as mine. I'm not ruling out your scenario,

514
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: but knowing the Players Association as a hand in this

515
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: and they aim to protect their players, I think they're

516
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if they've given a little nudge

517
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Speaker 1: to the league and said, hey, let the courts handle

518
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: it and then you can weigh in at that point

519
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: in time, not before. Now they can listen to the

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00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Players Association or not where the Players associating to say,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't do that, you're gonna have a

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00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: problem at our level. And maybe that's enough of a

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00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: deterrent to tell the league, Well, let's just let it

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Speaker 1: go through the courts and then we'll take it from there. Yeah,

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00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to read it, it really is. Let's say,

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Speaker 1: when you've got this isn't this isn't some crazy cock

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Speaker 1: of me. The twenty two different peats, not a parking ticket,

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Speaker 1: and they've already assembled three different grand juries. This is

529
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Speaker 1: a real thing. Yeah, this is not some he said,

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Speaker 1: she said kind of thing. Although the grand juries may

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Speaker 1: boil it down to that, and that's the reason they

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Speaker 1: can't indicted. When you're starting to convene grand juries, it's

533
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Speaker 1: time to let the guy sit for a while. To me,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to believe that that's the way they would go,

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Speaker 1: but I don't have a terrible amount of terribly large

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Speaker 1: amount of faith in that. Yeah, so we'll we'll just

537
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: sit here and wait. Just like everybody else, we have

538
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: to take a break here. We do want to let

539
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: you know that today we're kind of in a little

540
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Speaker 1: bit of an NFL power ranking mindset today because the

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Speaker 1: bulk of free agency is over. And yes, yes we

542
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Speaker 1: still have the draft and that could change the complexion

543
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: of this, but we know everybody loves power ranking. So

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Speaker 1: we're asking you at eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: today and on the tweechee to one Bills Live with

546
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Speaker 1: the bulk of Free agency over, how has your pecking

547
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: order in the AFC changed? Rank them for us? Give

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00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three five fifty Steve and

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00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: I take a break here, but back in a moment

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live presented by collid to Health. It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back One Bills Live.

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00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a Wednesday. Oh man,

553
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: the between the break content is just as good as

554
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: what we give you on the air. Sometimes better tell

555
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: them the story. Go ahead, are we okay to do this?

556
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: Listen here, here's what happened. I'm going over the one

557
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: Bills Live Twitter site and on our timeline. When you

558
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: know the mint notifications when people tag us and there's

559
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: a tag on there says hey look for jan Yeah

560
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: from a fan shows a picture of a Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: away jersey number forty with Miller on the back, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like going, okay, what I go? Who's this? Who's

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Speaker 1: is this? The guy's name? Miller? Who's number? Forty for

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Speaker 1: the b and obviously Brownie goes that would be Vaughan Miller.

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00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: I go, oh my god, you're right. It happened so fast.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't have a chance to die. It's not in

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00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: my brained yet. I know who the heck is mill

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00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: number for the Bills. I mean, it's like a nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighties defensive back, right, I mean who is that? Since

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00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: the players have not yet reported, gosh, which they won't

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Speaker 1: until April nineteenth, we will give you. We'll give you

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00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: a pass on that. Now we're seeing a picture of

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00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: le clearly has not been inmbedded in Steve's cerebral cortex.

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00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: I assure you it will be there. Well, here's the thing.

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00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Come training, they signed Vaughan, and then it was there

576
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: was something It's like nine things happened last week. It

577
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: was like Russ Wilson, Vaughan. Then it was Matt, Matt Ryan,

578
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, all this stuff's going on, and von was

579
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: just got in one of the list, got pushed unto

580
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: the to the bottom of the pile, and so then

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Speaker 1: he pops up here. They Hey, somebody, so somebody ordered

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Speaker 1: this jersey number forty down, Hey, check out what just

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Speaker 1: just happened? Just arrived in Dallas. It's Miller number four instant.

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Speaker 1: It looks like the old fashioned white just got two

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00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: per blue stripes on it. As the way erst that, well,

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00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: that's like a nineteen eighties nineties jersey? Who who is that?

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00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Just gonna say, if you saw the innocence on Steve's

588
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: face in asking who is forty Miller? That's so bad?

589
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: And I looked at him and I said, where that

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00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: would be? Vaughan Miller. It's Steve takes off his classes

591
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, dear lord, what is wrong with me?

592
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: It did not register because we haven't seen the guy

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00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: in the jersey yet. It will now, it will all right,

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00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I have faith probably probably, Well, we'll have you straight

595
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: out by the time we roll around to training camp,

596
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: which is another exciting thing because you know training camp

597
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,479
Speaker 1: will be out at Fisher again. We'll have fans there.

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00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: That always brings an extra energate practice. And it's coming

599
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: up April fourth, so it's next week. Teams with new

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00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: head coaches they can start conditioning, so they'll be in

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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: they'll start be in the buildings again. Brian Dabele has

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00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: that going on with the Giants, right, the Giants will

603
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: be in the building next week, running around in shorts

604
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: and T shirts, getting to know each other. They'll be

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00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: team be doing team building exercises, you know, relay races

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: and all that stuff to get each other crazy stuff,

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00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: and they'll get be getting in shape. And then April eighteenth,

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00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: two weeks later, everybody's back in. So mid April, the

609
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and everybody will be back in the buildings,

610
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: start conditioning, and you'll see guys a lot of classroom work. Yeah,

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00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: they'll be sitting down to meetings, watching film and doing

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00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: some conditioning. So yeah, that'll be cool. Before we get

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Speaker 1: to the phone calls, the last bit of NFL news items,

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Speaker 1: Did you see Jim Hersey's comments on the wind the

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00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz era? Can we even call it an era?

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00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: We should call it the Carson Wentz season, right, I mean,

617
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: it was a one and done, But apparently Jim Hersey

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00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: is still a little bitter in light of how last

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Speaker 1: season ended when they missed the playoffs. He was asked

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Speaker 1: about the Carson Wentz decision not only to bring him in,

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Speaker 1: but to jenison him off to the Washington commanders less

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Speaker 1: than a year later, and he basically said, quote, I

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Speaker 1: think the worst thing you can do is have a

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00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: mistake and try to keep living with it going forward.

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00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: So he basically it's called the Carson Wentz acquisition a mistake.

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00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: He said, for us, it was something we had to

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00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: move away from as a franchise. It was very obvious. Ouch.

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Speaker 1: Then he goes on to say, no disrespect to Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: but I mean they're the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 1: You play well and hard for the first quarter or

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Speaker 1: so and they gonna go to their locker room and

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Speaker 1: clean it out. I've never seen anything like that in

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Speaker 1: my life. You say, my god, there's something wrong here.

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00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: It needs to be corrected. I think that we feel

635
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Speaker 1: like we did correct it. So he basically just called

636
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: a division rival the worst team. I wouldn't. Maybe they

637
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: don't call him arrival because they don't they don't win. Well,

638
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: they did win last time they played. They beat to

639
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: the last time they played. Openly calls him the worst

640
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: team in the league. Well, I mean, I understand, you know,

641
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: you're an owner and you feel like you can shoot

642
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: from the hip, But not only that, Steve. He's saying

643
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: that at the owners meetings Sean Con could be right

644
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: around the corner in the hallway. Yeah, he hit the

645
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: bar before he met the media, didn't he. I mean,

646
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: that's just that's almost too revealing. That's well, I can't

647
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: believe he was that candid. Yeah, Carson Wentz was a

648
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: mistake and we had to move on from it. And

649
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was the worst team in no disrespect, but they

650
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: were the worst team in the lad It's like, don't

651
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: say no disrespect when you literally disrespect him in the

652
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: next five words to come out of your mouth. That's

653
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: what no disrespect means. I'm going to disrespect you, but

654
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: I don't mean to insult you by doing it. Um,

655
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: that's the thing. And the rails man, there's a couple

656
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: of screws loose there. I think. Well, here's the thing.

657
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: Some owners, um are more prevalent than others. They like

658
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: the public eye and they're they're not shy about stepping

659
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: up to the mic. And here's the thing they are.

660
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: There's not very many owners who allow themselves to be

661
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: held strictly accountable for what they say or by anybody,

662
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: and for good reasons, because you know, they're a lot

663
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: of times the smartest guy in the room. But here's

664
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: the thing. If they go down there and they're going

665
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: to open up these meetings to the to the media

666
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: and to have seven hundred it's an owner's meeting. There's

667
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: thirty two guys. Well, there are seven hundred people in

668
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: the room. And if you're gonna open it up to

669
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: being a public spectacle like that, you're gonna run into

670
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: interviews that make it awkward some once in a while.

671
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, I know this. I know

672
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: Frank has a lot of love and respect from mister Ersey,

673
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: and that's good enough for me, and so be that

674
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: as it may. A rough interview coming out where I

675
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: mean he went in here. I mean, he's the thing.

676
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: We're so used to hearing head coaches tiptoe around that

677
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: kind of thing that when you get somebody here's not

678
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: gonna tiptoe around and just gonna say, hey, they stunk

679
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: last year. There's no reason we should have lost to him.

680
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: We shouldn't assigned that guy, Da da da da. That's like,

681
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: that's pretty shocking. Yeah, that's pretty shocking. It's those guys.

682
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: It's a different, different time of the calendar year. There's

683
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: no competitive advantage to be gained by hobnobbing or like

684
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: tiptoeing around the issues. And these owners, for the most part,

685
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: they don't tiptoe. They don't care. They just do. I mean,

686
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: who do they really have to answer to? That's it

687
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, that's why. That's why that comments surprise. Yeah,

688
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Jacksonville. But they're the worst team in

689
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: the league, and their record would indicate that they're picking

690
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: first for the second year in a row. But still,

691
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that you need to point that out.

692
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: You just ye say, we look, we were very disappointed.

693
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have lost to them in the last game

694
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: of the season to get in the playoffs. There's no

695
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: way we should have lost that game and leave it there.

696
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: Don't say, wow, they're the worst team in the league, right,

697
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know, that's just I just think you

698
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: got to have a little bit better standard when dealing

699
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: with your ownership, brethren. But call me crazy. Let's go

700
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: to the phones at eight oh three five fifty one,

701
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty and we begin

702
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: with Herb and West Seneca. We got first. Herb, say, Brownie, Steve,

703
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: how you doing good? Thanks for taking my call. I

704
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: was at the Bill's advisory board meeting last night for

705
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: the new stadium, okay, and uh, you know it was

706
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: it was kind of pretty informative. You know, they're talking

707
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: about restaurants and touchless phone stuff they're gonna do, and

708
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: in stadium museum all the restaurants, bars, and good news

709
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: for you, Steve, there will be micro brewery. They're awesome

710
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: there you go. But what concerned me was when they

711
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: got to PSLs. You know, depending on where you sat,

712
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: they went from anywhere, you know, like from two thousand dollars, say,

713
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: all the way up to ten thousand dollars per seat. Now,

714
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 1: nothing's written in stone yet, but I asked the guy

715
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: after the meeting if it's possible we could see some

716
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: of these numbers, and he said, yeah, he's like a

717
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: data collector from Dallas, Texas. But for the center of

718
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: the field, from like the thirty five each side to

719
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: the fifty it was fifteen to thirty thousand dollars per seat.

720
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: It was like, and that's where I sit. And I'm like,

721
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: this is going to totally ruin the type of atmosphere

722
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: we have at the game if all this goes through,

723
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: because you know, we have a family type atmosphere. We

724
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: all sit together, we're all going to get broken up

725
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: depending on what we could afford. The cost of season tickets,

726
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: they double them all. It's just I guess I'll know

727
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: more as the Bunkston goes on. Yeah, i'd wait, yeah,

728
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're at an advisory meeting and

729
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: everything seems, you know, set in stone, But I would

730
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: I would not. I would not jump to conclusions just yet.

731
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: I think we got to let the process play out.

732
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: As we heard Ron Riculias say yesterday, they're not going

733
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: to price the fans out of the stadium because the

734
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: most important thing for the atmosphere on game day is

735
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: the fans. They need people in those seats. So I

736
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: think they've done an exhaustive amount of research in this marketplace,

737
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: and I think they have an idea on what the

738
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: range should be that's appropriate for what this market has

739
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: to offer in terms of average annual income, disposable income,

740
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And they've researched all of that,

741
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: they've done all the data, and they'll probably do even

742
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: more now that we're coming out of a pandemic because

743
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: those numbers have probably changed something for a lot of people,

744
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: So I anticipate that there'll be a lot of moving

745
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: parts to that element of it. I know it's of

746
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: great concern, and I understand why because it changes the

747
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: bottom line pretty quickly for a fan that has season tickets.

748
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: And we'll just have to wait to get to that

749
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: point and wait until it's kind of set in stone

750
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: before we say, hey I like this, or hey I

751
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: don't like this, or hey I'm not gonna be able

752
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: to come to games anymore or whatever it is. Let

753
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: the process, I would say, play out first. Yeah, exactly,

754
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: and listen, I agree with you. Thirty thousand dollars for

755
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: one seat, even if it is for thirty years, that's

756
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: a big nut to come up with all at once.

757
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: It's it's a big nut to come up with all

758
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: at once. So like, I'm with you, that's it's a

759
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: startling number. And I would say, hold up a minute,

760
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: because Brownie's right. I know they did a huge amount

761
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: of market research, and that means talking to people like

762
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: herb about what they can afford and what they're willing

763
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: to afford to be able to afford. And so in

764
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: these numbers, all the numbers that come out after this

765
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: is all said and done, we'll reflect those thoughts and opinions.

766
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Break time for us here. Steve and I back in

767
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: a second as we talk AFC pecking order. Don't forget

768
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: coming up second hour of the show. We've got NFL

769
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: dot COM's Dan hans Us who has his own NFL

770
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: Power rankings post free agency. We'll be talking with him

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Speaker 1: second hour of the show here on one Bills Live,

772
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:18,520
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773
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: are proud to host r J Knight, presented by Wegmans,

774
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: during the team's home game against the Nashville Predators on Friday,

775
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: April first. The legendary career of Sabers, played by play

776
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: announcer Rick Jannerette, will be honored when a banner bearing

777
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: his name will join the banners of other Sabers legends

778
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: in the rafters of key Bank Center before the game.

779
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: Steve and I are both going to be there. I

780
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: got my tickets, Steve's got his season tickets, and we

781
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: encourage you to get in your seats by around six

782
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: thirty or so because the pregame festivities honoring RJ will

783
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: be taking place at about six forty PM. That's when

784
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: it starts. It is a yeah, it is a banner

785
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: ceremony for Rick RJ. And uh, yeah, I'm gonna be there.

786
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: It'll be fun. Yeah, I'm gonna look forward to that. Yeah.

787
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: And then what has been a tough obviously a tough season,

788
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: a tough stretch of seasons for the Saves. And there's

789
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: been a lot of nights when there wasn't very many

790
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: people there. I would expect a really good crowd on

791
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: Friday night. It's gonna be fun, and the crowd that

792
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more people there tonight too because they're

793
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: playing really well. Yeah, and you think having a nice

794
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: stretch of Obviously, you know, I got season tickets, so

795
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: I you know, yeah, kind you're plugged in, right, plugged

796
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: in might be a little strong, but but I am

797
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: inter present. I am yes. And they are fun to watch. Man.

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00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: I gotta say, um, you know this season is gonna

799
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: end on the last game of the regular season, but man,

800
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: oh man, yeah, like I like my guys. I gotta

801
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: say I like them. Let's get back to the phones.

802
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: At eight oh three, oh five fifty one, eight eight

803
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty we go to Tony and

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00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Angola X. What you got first, Tony? Yeah, Hi, guys, Um,

805
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: you think the Pagoula's declining any of your guys interview

806
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: when you were there Monday and Tuesday? And do you

807
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: think you know they'll be at the game maybe Friday

808
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: at least may be willing to talk at that point. Yeah,

809
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about I don't know this why

810
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: the Pogoulahs haven't addressed the media about the stadium deal yet.

811
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: My guess is this, Tony and I don't know this.

812
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: This is just a hypothesis on my part. I'm wondering

813
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: if they would prefer to wait until the state passes

814
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: the budget April first, and until Erie County Legislature signs

815
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: off on their portion of the deal and the funding

816
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, Terry Pegoula and Kim Pagoula are

817
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: very successful business people for a reason, and I think

818
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: I think there is stute enough to know that it's

819
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: probably best to let the process play itself out first

820
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: then address things afterwards. And knowing that those are two

821
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: important hurdles here, because all you have is a memorandum

822
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: of understanding right now, and news flash, that's not a

823
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: binding agreement. It's just a preliminary step. A binding agreement

824
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: is a state budget that puts the money in place

825
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: to go towards the stadium. The Erie County Legislature has

826
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: to approve the two hundred and fifty million dollars in

827
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: funding that the county is providing for construction of the stadium.

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00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: You don't have any of that yet, so I wouldn't

829
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: be I don't know this, but I wouldn't be surprised

830
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: if they thought speaking about it might be a little premature. Yeah,

831
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: and that's part of the job description of Ron Riculia,

832
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: who we had on show the show yesterday's that's kind

833
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: of his job to be the point man on it,

834
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: and he'll do that, and he probably is more familiar

835
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: with the inner workings of it. Kim and Terry can

836
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: probably best speak to what their feelings are about the

837
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: whole thing, and that's you know, that's kind of where

838
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: you should probably keep it. And right now, that's a

839
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: side note, because you know, they obviously want to move

840
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: forward with this with projects. So I don't know what

841
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: you would expect to learn from them other than what

842
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: you've been told if they did speak. So yeah, whatever,

843
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: and hurt and as we said, hurdles still to clear

844
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Speaker 1: state budget vote Erie County legislature. That's where the funding

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Speaker 1: becomes official. It is not official as off yet. Break

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Speaker 1: time for us here when we return second hour of

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Speaker 1: the show, we're gonna talk to Dan Hanzo's from NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com. He's got his latest NFL power rankings post

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Speaker 1: free agency. Who does he have at the top of

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Speaker 1: the leaderboard. I think Bills fans are gonna like it.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with Dan next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Colloid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio at

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Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you state, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the stragedyre of normalcy, all right. Our number two

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Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve casking with you.

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live is the show Please to be joined

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Speaker 1: now by Around the NFL writer and podcast host. I've

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Speaker 1: been with the NFL since twenty ten, otherwise known as

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Speaker 1: Dan Dan the Power rankings Man. It's Dan Hanzo's joining

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Speaker 1: us as he's got some power rankings post free agency.

863
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: At least the majority of it is over right, Dan, Dan,

864
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: when did it dawn on you that you would be

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Speaker 1: a guest on one Bills live? Once you put these

866
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Speaker 1: power rankings out? It does? It does seem to get

867
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Speaker 1: me popular in the western New York area. And when

868
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: I make that move to put the Bills at number one,

869
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: And also, this is my third season doing power rankings

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Speaker 1: for NFL dot Com, and I had like a rule

871
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: that the defending champion gets to stay at number one

872
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: through the offseason until they lose the game the next year.

873
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a neat and clean way to

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Speaker 1: handle things. And then I was thinking about it after

875
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: free agency and after von Miller, and after what we

876
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: saw from the Bills over the last couple of years

877
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: that I just couldn't deny that. When I looked at

878
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: the NFL and and had to pick which team I

879
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: thought was the best team right now, it is Buffalo

880
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: and that and that's that made me change my rules.

881
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: And the people that support the Rams were not happy,

882
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: and some management figures, but at the end of the day,

883
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: I had to go with what I felt was right.

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00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: That's a bravery, That's what I call it. Yeah, Yeah,

885
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: there you go and Buffalo Bravery. Sure, um, it's is

886
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: it more? It's more than Miller and Allen. I realize

887
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: those are two main driving forces here for for a

888
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: top ranking, But what what else speaks to you? Knowing

889
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: that you don't suffer from the Bills myopia that we

890
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: do every day of the week. Now, I did think.

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00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's notable obviously that the Rams where the

892
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: team Miller went to. So when you're just in, you're

893
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: in this power of rankings vacuum. One of the best

894
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: defense defensive players from the champs goes to the Bills.

895
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: But that's not just it because I think, you know,

896
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: I saw this as and I know the contract. There's

897
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: some funny money involved there, but it's still a two

898
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: to three year commitment with big money. And for me,

899
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: it was like the Bills. It was an active desperation,

900
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: but not the bad type of desperation like what we

901
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: saw with the Browns of Deshaun Watson. That's bad desperation.

902
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: But the Bills they know it, they know how close

903
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: they are, they know how things ended. Obviously in January

904
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: they watched that Super Bowl and they said, oh, we

905
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: could have beat Cincinnati, we could have beat La, We're

906
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: right there. So you make a move like this to

907
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: get you over the top. And when you factor in

908
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: Miller with Josh Allen ascending to this higher plane of

909
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: the elite levels of the Superstar club, with this great

910
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: offense and a very good defense, it's just kind of

911
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: all there with the coaching staff obviously for this to

912
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: be the year. And I don't want to jinx it,

913
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: and that's not me saying that, so you can't come

914
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: back at me if it doesn't work out. But this

915
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: just feels like this is the one, doesn't it feel

916
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: like with the Bills, this is the year? Yeah? Finally,

917
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: there's certainly a lot of things pointing that direction. And

918
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: when we talk about how these power rankings have changed,

919
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: and even in a year where you had to kind

920
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: of make an exception to your own rule of letting

921
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: somebody else be number one until the world champion gets

922
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: knocked off, what one move this offseason a free agency

923
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: like was it Russell Wilson was a Deshaun Watson? What

924
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Ryan, go down the list. What one

925
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: guy moved one team up and down these power rankings?

926
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Speaker 1: The most that would be Russell Wilson and obviously that

927
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: was a trade, but that just you know, I think

928
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Speaker 1: obviously you see it in the rankings. I think the

929
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: Bills are the best team in the NFL. I think

930
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: they're the best in the AFC. But the Broncos became

931
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: so intriguing with that move, obviously, And when you take

932
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and I know he has kind of slipped

933
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: a little bit statistically, just a bit in the last

934
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Speaker 1: couple of years, and maybe the bloom was off the

935
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: rows in those final years with the Seahawks. But I

936
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Speaker 1: think he's going to be a big time addition in Denver.

937
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: And I think when you take Wilson's skill set, in

938
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: his ability to make big plays, you give him a

939
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: real revitalize him in a new setting, with a new challenge,

940
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: with a great offensive roster. I think the Broncho is

941
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 1: going to score a lot of points. I think they

942
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: are a team in a loaded AFC West that has

943
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: a chance to come out of that division and give

944
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: the Bills and anyone else that are playing come January

945
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs a real tough ride. I think that

946
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: is a team that went from pretender to contender overnight,

947
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: just like ten years earlier, when they pulled the trigger

948
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: and brought Peyton Manning in. It's a similar vibe to me.

949
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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Rams already, but I want to go

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00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: back to them for a second, and here Dan, for

951
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: this reason, I'm just curious what I mean. The Bills

952
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: were obviously a big factor in your decision to slide

953
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: them out of the top spot. The other thing that

954
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: I have trouble with, you know, in ranking the Rams,

955
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, I'd still have him as

956
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: a top three team, but no Von Miller. As you mentioned,

957
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: Darius Williams is in Jacksonville, Austin Corbetta starting guards out

958
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: the door, Sebastian Joseph Day goes across the street to

959
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and yes, and Whitworth retires, OBJ is still repairing. Yeah,

960
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: an acl And I know they got Alan Robinson, so

961
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: that kind of takes care of the wide receiver issue.

962
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: Robert Woods traded as well, but they have no first

963
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: and second round picks either, So how much did their

964
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: inability to maybe because they have, to their credit, I

965
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: think drafted better than people give them credit for over

966
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: the years, especially Layton drafts. What was the what was

967
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: the factor maybe on the Rams side, of the Ledger

968
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: that made you feel like I can't put him there.

969
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: I think you kind of explained it there, Chris, like

970
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: I think with what happened here was their volatile team

971
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: just because the team building is unique in the NFL,

972
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: this idea of we will chew these top round picks

973
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: and developing, will use them as assets to bring in

974
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: talent and then and trust our personnel behind the scenes

975
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: to hit on mid and late round draft picks. But

976
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: at the same time, like with the Bucks, they use them.

977
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: As an example, last year they won the Super Bowl,

978
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: they make a concerted effort to bring back basically the

979
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: same team. So again from the lens of the power rankings,

980
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: that was an easy one. That was like, Okay, they

981
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: won the championship, they have Tom Brady, They're bringing back

982
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: the same roster. The Rams with this much roster churn,

983
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: they become more of a question mark. And the fact

984
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: that yes, they absolutely deserve to hoist that Lombardi and

985
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: you give them credit for making that charge to the

986
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: NFC and then knocking off Cincinnati late in the final game,

987
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: but that wasn't a dominant team. That was a team

988
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: that I thought that was well constructed on the fly

989
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: and put together a nice playoff runs. So yes, I

990
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: still think the Rams are an absolute contender in a

991
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: weaker conference compared to the AFC. But you can't look

992
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: at their offseason and be like, oh, they're better right now.

993
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: I think right now where they stand, they're a little worse.

994
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: But it also don't rule out them making more moves

995
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: because they're a bold organization under less need than Sean

996
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: mcvayh You know, I know when we make these power ranks,

997
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 1: or maybe I'm maybe I'm assuming every team is kind

998
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: of its own entity. How good is that team? How

999
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: much does the divisional rivalries and how many team good

1000
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: teams in their division? How much does that play into

1001
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: these power rankings? Because you know, I was thinking about

1002
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: it green Bay and with Aaron Rodgers and before him,

1003
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: Brett Farve, they're in a division with Detroit and Chicago,

1004
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: two teams that maybe catch lightning in a bottle once

1005
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: every ten years and then go back into dormancy of

1006
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: being mediocre or less right, and Minnesota's not much better.

1007
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: So green Bay is sitting there. If you run that team, well,

1008
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: you're gold in that division. But then you look at

1009
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: these rankings this year the Chargers you've got at seven,

1010
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos are eight, the Chiefs are nine, and the

1011
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: Raiders are eleven. I mean, that's a division that we

1012
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: all knew it like the eye test. But even in

1013
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: your rankings, how much do your division rivalries and the

1014
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: quality of division opponents, you know, go into these rankings. Yeah, Steve,

1015
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: you could look at it two ways. And with the

1016
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: AFC West, you could say that I shouldn't have them

1017
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: that high and that budged up because they're gonna beating

1018
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: each other up all year. There's there's no soft link

1019
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: in the chain there in the AFC West, but especially

1020
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: this early in the process. I'm just looking at like

1021
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: where the rosters and how they came off last season,

1022
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: and they just feel like all that. They feel like

1023
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: top twelve teams to me right now. And the Packers

1024
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: are a good example because the Packers made me look

1025
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: bad because over the last six weeks of the regular

1026
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: season and heading through the bye week of the opening

1027
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, I parked the Packers at one. I

1028
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: bought in. I said, this team is ready to make

1029
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: that leap. It's not going to be the same old

1030
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: story for Aaron Rodgers and company in January, and then

1031
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: sure enough against the Niners. It was so maybe there

1032
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: was I should have been looking at it a little differently.

1033
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: Maybe they did fatten up on a mediocre NFC North,

1034
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: a team that there's a lot of issues in the

1035
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: relationship between me and Tennessee Titans fans, who are surprisingly

1036
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: feisty those fans, because I look at the AFC South

1037
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: and that's a division where it's like I just can't

1038
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: ever truly get behind the leader of that division typically

1039
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: or the Titans. I see them as a paper champion,

1040
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: and sure enough they go out quickly in the playoffs

1041
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: because I think they beat up on the likes of

1042
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: the Texans and the Jaguars and got some NFC South

1043
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: teams that were soft as well. But then again, I

1044
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: also had the Cults in the top six or seven

1045
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: for most of the season, and we saw how that ends.

1046
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: Like that was a very difficult season, guys for power rankings.

1047
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you. It was a bizarre,

1048
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: schizophrenic season for the NFL, and things seemed to change

1049
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: and flip we to week Yeah, and despite all the

1050
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: social media hate that flies at you, Dan, you got

1051
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: to look at it as job security. People care, So

1052
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. The one you mentioned the AFC South,

1053
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: and that brings me to the one team that surprised

1054
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: me in terms of where you had them. You had

1055
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: the Colts all the way down at sixteen, plummeting seven

1056
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: spots after acquiring Matt Ryan and jettison in Carson Wentz,

1057
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: which I don't know. To me, even though I know

1058
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan isn't quite what he used to be, he's

1059
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: not the MVP. Matt Ryan still pretty capable guy, and

1060
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: I would argue might have been more capable coming into

1061
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: Indie this year at thirty seven than maybe Rivers was

1062
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: coming in a couple of years ago. I to me,

1063
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: it's an upgrade at quarterback. So knowing they have a

1064
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: pretty complete roster, why the plummet to sixteen for you?

1065
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: It's funny because we just talked about it. I factored

1066
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: in a few things there, and some of that did

1067
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: connect to I had the Cults pretty high up by

1068
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: the end of last season, and I thought they had

1069
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: a chance. They had one nine to twelve at one

1070
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: point and looked like a team that could really do it.

1071
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: And I understand why they made the decision to get

1072
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: away from Wentz, and I do believe I'm with you

1073
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 1: that Matt Ryan is an upgrade. I think he could

1074
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: be a better version of what Philip Rivers was two

1075
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: years ago. But I also kind of look at the team,

1076
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: and I look at the rest of the conference, and

1077
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: I think the fact that the AFC West kind of

1078
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: went off during the free agency and trade tsunami we

1079
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: just saw, and the fact that the Cults the way

1080
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: they finished, everything got pinned on Carson Wentz, and I

1081
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: understand he played poorly those last two weeks, but that

1082
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: whole team melted down down the stretch, and I think

1083
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: maybe that's just in the back of my mind lingering.

1084
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too sucked in because it

1085
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: happens to me throughout the back half of the regular season.

1086
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to park them kind of right on the

1087
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: edge of the priphery of the AFC playoff race and

1088
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: see how this thing starts out. But I do I

1089
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: like the move, considering they were kind of boxed themselves

1090
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: in on Wentz one year and decided to get out.

1091
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: The fact that they came out of it with Matt

1092
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: Ryan is better than the alternatives. Baker Mayfield or Teddy

1093
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: Bridgewater or whomever you could have plugged in instead of wins.

1094
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: And you look back at what the Bills did, and

1095
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, sitting at the top of the power rankings,

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at the rest of their division.

1097
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: And the next AFC East team that's on the rankings

1098
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: is New England at thirteen. I think a lot of

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: people here are surprised you would put New England ahead

1100
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: of Miami with the flashy trade and the and the

1101
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: upgrade with the left tackle, the upgrade with Tyreek Hill.

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01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: You know, just give us your idea of why New

1103
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: England is so much is as high as they are,

1104
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins are kind of where they're at. I mean,

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: it's it's really close at thirteen seventeen, and I think

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: they're basically you know, could I even put them a

1107
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: little tighter together, perhaps, But ultimately, you know, I think

1108
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, for all the moves, and I loved the

1109
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hilled move was bold, was down for that and

1110
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: that I like the Toronto Armstead move even better to

1111
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: give their offensive line and much needed boost. But you know,

1112
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: like the Jets, you could do whatever you want, but

1113
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 1: it all goes back to the quarterback, and I guess

1114
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on two A yet. And I know

1115
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: the idea here is now, you're gonna take to A.

1116
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna get give him a better offensive line, You're

1117
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna give him the best playmaker at wide receiver of

1118
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, entire kill at least a downfield threat.

1119
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: You have Jalen Waddle, who is one of the best

1120
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: young wide receivers to come into the league in the

1121
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: last few years. And it should all hum with Mike

1122
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: Jesseki back at tight end. But I'm still in a

1123
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: bit of a hold there, kind of like the Colts,

1124
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'm ready to buy in

1125
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: on this organization, the way they operate, the way the

1126
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks shown us in the first two years. The Patriots

1127
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: have been quiet obviously in free agency, but I just,

1128
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, I know things went very south for them

1129
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: against the Bills in those last two meetings, but I

1130
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: saw that as a team that had found its footing

1131
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: post Brady, and I like Mac Jones and what he

1132
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: showed as a rookie, and I think he's gonna be better.

1133
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people are kind of

1134
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: burying the paths right now and forgetting about them. But

1135
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be competitive and I still see

1136
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: them as a better team with better coaching than the Dolphins.

1137
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: So with that line of thinking in mind, Cleveland was

1138
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: an interesting one for me, Dan because obviously it's the

1139
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson whole situation. There question for you you have

1140
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: him at fourteen, right on the cusp of getting a

1141
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: playoff berth The last one conceivably is it did you

1142
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: even factor in the potential of him missing time for

1143
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: a league in post suspension or are you just kind

1144
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: of saying is a boomer busts let's just put him here.

1145
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: I think the suspension end of it was almost entirely

1146
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: the reason I kind of kept him at fourteen, And

1147
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: it's the whole way the way played out. Have you

1148
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: know Mark Cesslero I do the podcast with as a

1149
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: lifelong Browns fan. It broke his heart the way they

1150
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: handled this, but ultimately they made the decision. This is

1151
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: the other type of desperation. Cleveland doesn't want to be

1152
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: a laughing stock. They tasted a little bit of glory

1153
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: two years ago with that win over the Steelers in

1154
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and now they want more, so they're going

1155
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: all in now. I have to say that I can't

1156
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: really have them shooting up the power rankings. It's not

1157
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: an issue a moral issue for me. It's more like,

1158
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if Deshaun Watson is playing in you know, September.

1159
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's playing in October. Who knows,

1160
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: he might not play the whole season. They're so much unsettled,

1161
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: So they're just a tough team for this exercise to

1162
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: make a hard move one way or the other. I'll

1163
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: say this, you could really be plugged in on the

1164
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: story and be kind of disappointed. You could be disgusted

1165
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: about the allegations connected to Watson. But the reason the

1166
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: Browns went out and got him is he's one of

1167
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: the top five or six quarterbacks in the league, and

1168
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 1: when he eventually does get in that lineup, he's gonna

1169
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: make them a and tender. With the way Andrew Berry

1170
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: has built that team over the last couple of years,

1171
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: I just don't know when that actually begins. So that's

1172
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: why I just parked in here last one. For me,

1173
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: as I look down this, I'm always you know, with

1174
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: these teams, when you talk to each of them, individually,

1175
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: it's always about winning their division first, getting to the playoffs,

1176
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: And to me, there's a couple of teams that are

1177
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: decidedly in the driver's seat to win their division. One

1178
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: would be Tampa Bay with Tom Brady coming back and

1179
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: Caroline in the state they're in New Orleans, in the

1180
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: state that it's in in Atlanta, just trading Matt Ryan.

1181
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: It seems like tom Brady could take it out of

1182
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: gear and coast all the way to the division title.

1183
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: Another one might be Green Bay where they're the you know,

1184
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. I don't care if Davante Adams is

1185
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: there or not. They're gonna do. They could draft somebody

1186
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: and sleepwalk through Detroit, Chicago and Minnesota this next year.

1187
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: That seems as well. Is there any Is that the

1188
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: way you see it as well? Is there a division

1189
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: winner in the AFC division champion in the AFC who

1190
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: you think has maybe the easiest road to the playoffs

1191
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: and a division title? Yeah? I think what was the

1192
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: first team? You said? It was the Bucks and who else?

1193
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: It was the Tampa Bay and Tampa Bay, Green Bay,

1194
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay Bay. Yeah, I think you know, you look

1195
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: at that division in the AFC South, and it's still

1196
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: it has the Texans there, it has the Jaguars. So

1197
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: I know the Jaguars spent a lot of money and

1198
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: we'll see they have a better, more responsible head coach

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: in the building. And I'm still totally in on Trevor

1200
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence as a prospect. So they are kind of an

1201
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: X factor and an interesting team. But there's still a

1202
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: team that's had the number one overall picked two years

1203
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: in a row, and so that's a team you're happy

1204
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: to be in a division with right now. The Texans.

1205
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: We don't know what the Texans are right now, but

1206
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: they are a long ways off for being in it.

1207
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: So I would think, once again, you have the Colts

1208
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: here and the Titans here, and I think those teams

1209
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: have you know, the easiest path to those eleven or

1210
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: twelve wins and a playoff burns, So that would be

1211
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: the you know, I think the Bills are head and

1212
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: shoulders I think above the rest of the teams in

1213
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: the AFS East. But those that you can make a

1214
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: case certainly for the Dolphins and certainly for the Pats

1215
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: as giving them trouble. The Jets are still in a

1216
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: perpetual state of rebuilding. Obviously until we see what Zach

1217
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: Wilson is at. But those are the two divisions where

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01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: I think the favorite has the clearest path to that

1219
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: home game and perhaps a buy. Dan, thanks as always

1220
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: for the time. We appreciate you providing us with offseason

1221
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: debate topics. With these rankings, as you put out periodically,

1222
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: they well, I don't have to tell you, they spawned

1223
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: conversations that go on and on and on and on.

1224
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: So thanks for doing it, number one, and thanks for

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01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: giving us some time. Number two. Thank you guys and

1226
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: all that hate it. Just there's a force field. That's

1227
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: an invisible force field. Nothing can hurt me, so it's fine,

1228
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: don't worry about me, perfect, all right. Thanks Dan. That's

1229
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: Dan Hanzer's from NFL dot Com. Also does the Around

1230
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast with his fellow cohorts there at the

1231
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: NFL offices and really puts a lot of thought into it,

1232
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny to see the backlash that

1233
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: he'll get by a given fan base that is unhappy

1234
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: with where their team may or may not be ranked.

1235
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: And I think Dan's got the perfect disposition for the

1236
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: job he has to do NFL dot Com because he

1237
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: knows right off the bat there is no way he

1238
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: is making everybody happy. Oh yeah, and more often than

1239
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: not he will make more fan bases unhappy than happy.

1240
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: But Bill's fans are probably happy today that he has

1241
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: them in the top spot. Yeah, and it's it's true.

1242
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and he, you know, jokingly said, doesn't it

1243
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: just feel like that, you know, doesn't it just feel

1244
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: like the building? Yeah? Certainly, in a lot of ways,

1245
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: it feels like they have postured themselves into a place

1246
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: where they will not only get markedly better in some

1247
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: areas this next year, but decidedly so. And that's hard

1248
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: to do from the level of football. We saw them

1249
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: playing at the end of last season when they when

1250
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: Josh put Josh put together two absolutely superhuman playoff game

1251
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: performances off the charts, the best two game stretch in

1252
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: NFL history for quarterbacks efficiency and forget about all that,

1253
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: forget about all that analytical stuff. You could see it

1254
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: just by watching the game if you had never seen

1255
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: a game before, that guy was off the hook. And

1256
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 1: that's how people around the league, not just in Buffalo,

1257
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 1: we're seeing this team. They were. They were Their offense,

1258
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: Their offense was a problem big time problem every single

1259
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: snap and uh and I heard Josh and an off

1260
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: seas was quoted as saying after that game, and you know,

1261
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: and the off season as it got rolling, did a

1262
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: couple of interviews, he said, you know, he'd never he

1263
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: said he was a weird feeling in that Chiefs game.

1264
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: He says he was one of the few times, he said,

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Speaker 1: he felt so relaxed, so focused, so calm um. It

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01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: was rare for him. You know, we see we talk

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01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: about Josh all the time, peeling him off, the peeling

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Speaker 1: off the ceiling and how the you know, the sugar

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: high Josh and all that stuff. And then when he

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: played like that the other he'd like he did against

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01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the divisional round of the playoffs, to

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: hear him say, I've never played in the game so

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01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: calm and been so you know, just calm and focused

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01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: and just you know, I'm good in his own in

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: his own um. Bottle it up and save that for

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Speaker 1: next season. I'm telling you, man, it was. It is unbelievable.

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: Find out where that what that is. Bottle it up

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01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: and bring give me. I don't need it, I don't

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01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: need him. All yeah, swallow that up. But I'm telling you, Uh,

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: to hear him talk like that is pretty cool. And

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: it's not just us here in Western New York and

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: Bill's nation who see it. The whole the whole world

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: saw it. And you know, what are you gonna do? Man?

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: You just can't wait to Sey fans can't fans of

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: other teams NFL fans, they cannot second guess um doubt

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01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: him anymore. You just can't do it. Yeah, you can't

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01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: do it anymore. There's no there is no basis of

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01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: any kind of evidence anymore that can deny the fact

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Speaker 1: that he is an elite quarter in this league. We

1290
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: only got a couple mints here before we hear a break.

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01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: But this is an interesting topic right here, Brownie, because

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01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: people are saying it's the Josh Allen rule, the new

1293
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: overtime rules, you know, because everybody said, well that guy, Yeah,

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: they ain't stopping him. Why don't you give him the ball?

1295
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: That's not fair? Right? So I get it, and I

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01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: and I was thinking this as I was I was,

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01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: I heard you know, Sal and the guys talking about

1298
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: it today. I heard Show Uping the Bulldog talking about

1299
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: it last night. I've heard all the guys on ESPN

1300
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: talking about the overtime rules, and every everybody mentions the

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01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen Kansas City game. I get it here in here,

1302
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: in Bill's country, you know, Bill's mafia. How would we

1303
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: feel about the overtime rules if we didn't have, if

1304
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: we had, if it was back in the Tyrod Taylor days?

1305
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: How do we How does Josh change everything for us?

1306
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: Not only we are like a neck deep in what

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01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: overtime rules should be, We're neck we are like passionate

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01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: about it because of Josh. Because we got the atomic

1309
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: bomb in this skirmish. You know, we're that We've got

1310
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: the ultimate weapon. So words like saying, hey, I don't

1311
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: care what it is. As long as we get a chance,

1312
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: you cannot beat us. Where would we be if we

1313
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: have Tyrod Taylor or fits or you know, insert quarterback

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01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: in search quarterback drought, insert drought quarterback here? Where would

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01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: we be? How would we be if we're Miami, if

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01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: we have or if we're Houston, or if we're what Denver?

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: Don't want to think about that. Where would you where?

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01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: How how many light years away from that are we?

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't I don't care. I'm just glad

1320
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,839
Speaker 1: that we're out of it. We are, but not only Brownie.

1321
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Not only are we out of it,

1322
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: we're living. There were the point of the spear, Baby,

1323
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,839
Speaker 1: We're on the tip of the bullet that is rocketing

1324
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: away from it. Yeah, and that's I think that affects

1325
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: all of our opinions about all of this stuff, just

1326
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't have to worry about that

1327
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: because I got the guy, and that is I think

1328
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: about think about how different we are today then we

1329
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: were right then I don't and I will. And while

1330
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: I agree we are completely different and in a good way,

1331
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: I still do not believe we have gotten to the

1332
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: point where we're acting spoiled, you know what I mean.

1333
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: I think we still have enough scar tissue where we

1334
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: completely appreciate what it is that we have at quarterbacks.

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: There is no there are no false notions or you know,

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01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: any kind of overconfidence or ignorance or arrogance. It's not

1337
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: like that at all. It's just like, well, we still

1338
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: got that guy. Yeah, we still remember what it's like. Yeah,

1339
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: we still have I still think there's a lot of

1340
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: Bills fans out there who can look out at these

1341
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: other teams and say Wow, you know what, I get it,

1342
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, right, been there. You can look at Denver

1343
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 1: over there, flopping around trying to find a guy. Draft

1344
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: guy nope, Draft guy nope, draft guy nope, Free agent nope.

1345
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean they were they were running through those guys

1346
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: like toilet paper and the pandemic, you know. I mean,

1347
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: they couldn't get enough of them, and right, and so

1348
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: they they couldn't do it. They just couldn't do it.

1349
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: We were there forever, you know, And and I get

1350
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, the La Chargers of the world. Finally they

1351
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: get a guy, finally, you know. But I think there's

1352
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: still a lot of empathy in Bill's you know, fan base.

1353
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: They say, yeah, listen, we know what it was like.

1354
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: I know it's hard. And these feeling teams were feeling

1355
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: and jumping through the exact same fiery hoops that the

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: Bills franchise was trying to jump through for seventeen years,

1357
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: trying to if we can't win with if we can't,

1358
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: we gotta all right, we gotta build it. We gotta

1359
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: have pass rush and corners, and we gotta have the

1360
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: best coverage linebackers. We gotta build our defense because we

1361
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: can't score you know, we're gonna have to hold them

1362
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: off the scoreboard. We're gonna blot the ball. You know,

1363
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole circular argument that we were all

1364
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: a part of trying to keep because you didn't have

1365
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: that one magic bullet. You didn't you couldn't come up

1366
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: with enough bullets to win games. There weren't enough other bullets.

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01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: So I'm just glad we're here. It does change everything

1368
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: about our opinion about what's going on in the league, though,

1369
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: it really does amen to that. We have to take

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: a break here. When we come back, more of your

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01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: phone calls here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kelli

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01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back

1373
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: We apologize to our MSG viewers and is right. When

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01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: we went to break, we had a power outage here

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01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: and we are in the process of trying to get

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01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: everything back up and running on the visual side of things,

1378
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: so please bear with us as we work to remedy

1379
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: that here. Going forward, we are still up and running

1380
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: though on the radio side, and we are taking your

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: phone calls. At eight oh three, oh five fifty one

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01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: eight eight, five fifty two, five fifty and waiting patiently

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01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: for us. Here is Jack in cheek, dwaga Jack, what

1384
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Okay, guys,

1385
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: thanks for taking the call before we got into all

1386
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: the feel good stuff in the last forty five minutes

1387
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,759
Speaker 1: or so, the power rankings and a lot of things

1388
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: to look forward to in the coming seasons. I listened

1389
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: to a long time season ticket holder and his thoughts

1390
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: about the personal seat licenses, and I gotta tell you,

1391
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: and I would appreciate you're letting me finish my train

1392
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: of thought here before you know making your comments. I'm

1393
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: seventy six and the train gets derailed easily. But basically

1394
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: this is all bitter sweet to me. My grandfather in

1395
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine fought sixteen season tickets from the Buffalo

1396
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: Bills from Pat mcgroder Jr. Now that's the guy up

1397
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: on the Wall of Fame next to Ralph Wilson. He's

1398
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: a salesman who convinced Ralph to come to Buffalo, New

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01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: York rather than Miami of Florida with his franchise. And

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01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: we've supported the team from nineteen sixty season. You know

1401
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: right on through, and this personal seat license to me

1402
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: is something that that's just going to be, you know,

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01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: a game breaker in a bad way for me. I've

1404
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: got two sons in their their late thirties, and I'd

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01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: like to pass my tickets onto them. But I don't

1406
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: think it's even going to reach that point because if

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01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: they are looking for personal seat licenses and you said,

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 1: let the process play out, let's see what it's going

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01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 1: to cost. I hadn't even heard figures like ten thousand

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01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: dollars and up for each seat. I had heard one

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01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And my seats are on the fifty yard

1412
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: line because over those sixty years, we've improved our seat

1413
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: locations and we've got great tickets. And my personal feeling

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01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: now is the bills for whatever they say. They don't

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01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: care whether I renew or not because they can sell

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01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: my tickets. We've supported the team for sixty years, and

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01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: what we have here is saying, well, to show your

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01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: loyalty to us, after sixty years of support, we need

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01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: you to pay a thousand dollars a seat. Let's just

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01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: use that figure for the privilege of buying our new,

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01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: much more expensive season tickets now. In all honesty, after

1422
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: all those years of support. To me, that's billionaire blackmail.

1423
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: That's wrong. I think that's wrong, Jack. I think that's wrong.

1424
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: And let me tell you why, Jack, that's not right.

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01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: They're not making it possible impossible for you to do

1426
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: There's still gonna be seats for you to be there

1427
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: if you still want to support the team, you can

1428
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: if you if you can't buy the exact same ticket

1429
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: for the exact same price you bought it in nineteen

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01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: fifty nine, that's not That is ridiculous. So I get that.

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01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: You're you're a long time season ticket holder. I get it.

1432
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: And you've got a lot of long history of supporting

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01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: the team. So do I. I've been here for thirty

1434
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: six years myself in the building, and I buy my

1435
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: season tickets as well. I may have to change my

1436
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: location in the stadium, but trust me, they're not going

1437
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: to price you or people like you out. You may

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01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: not be five rows behind the bench like you have been,

1439
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: but there's no question that if you want to go

1440
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: support the team you love, you're gonna be able to

1441
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,879
Speaker 1: do that. They're gonna make sure that, certainly you can't

1442
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 1: fault any team in the NFL for maximizing the market

1443
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: share they've got in the market. They do, and trust me,

1444
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: they're going to be smart enough to make sure that

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01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: anybody who wants to is going to be able to

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01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 1: afford to be able to go and see the Buffalo

1447
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: Bills play in Orchard Park. I get the history you

1448
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: have with the team. I really do. And believe me,

1449
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: it's not that the Bills don't care about you. They do,

1450
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: but they have a responsibility to the league and to

1451
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: themselves and as doing business to get what they can get.

1452
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: And now they've asked people like you, hundreds of people,

1453
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: thousands of people like you, to put out what they

1454
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: could afford, what they would afford, what they'd be happy

1455
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: about playing, what they would be unhappy about paying with

1456
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 1: kind of PSLs they would prefer, or no PSLs that

1457
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: would be sold. They've done research on all of this,

1458
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: people just like you, if not you yourself. They know

1459
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: what this market will handle. They're not gonna put prices

1460
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: on there that are going to keep people like you

1461
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: who have been longtime friends and supporters of the franchise

1462
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: out in the cold. They just won't do it. Now, don't,

1463
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: but don't tell me they don't have the right if

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01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 1: they if they've got five hundred people who will pay

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01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: a million bucks a PSL, that they're not gonna take

1466
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: that money. And I'm that's a ridiculous amount, but I'm

1467
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: exaggerating to make a point. They're gonna maximize a certain

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01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: small percentage of seats that they can get whatever they

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01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: can get for. But they got to know that people

1470
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: in Buffalo aren't gonna pay thirty grand a seat all

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01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: over the stadium to get in and watch the team.

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Speaker 1: Of course not. So don't get this scare tactic of

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01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: the people or you know. And there's gonna always gonna

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01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: be people out there disgruntled. It's the world we live

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01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: in social media. I rate fans whatever, and somebody's gonna

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01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: be upset and bash the team because they had to

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: move two sections further away from center field, from the

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01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: from the fifty yard line. Okay, there can be an

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01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: happy but believe me, the seats are gonna be there.

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01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna be affordable. You're gonna be able to go

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01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: and enjoy the game. And that's that. Don't think you're

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01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to afford to get near to

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01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 1: get into stadium because you are. And if you're upset

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01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: because you can't afford a good a seat, well that's

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01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills are in the market for selling seats,

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01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: not particularly, just to make sure that you know, everything

1487
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: is just like it has been for fifty years. So

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01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: don't be afraid of what this is gonna mean, like

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01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to mortgage your house to buy one PSL.

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01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: Don't think like that. You're gonna be able to see

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01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: the game. You're gonna be able to afford it. And

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01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: no matter where you sit in this new stadium, it's

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01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna be Believe me, it's gonna be way better and

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01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: more comfortable and more covered and more and there's gonna

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01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: be more many and you're gonna enjoy it as much

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01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: or more than you ever did in the old stadium,

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01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: believe me. And I think what people lose sight of

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01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: sometimes is the fact that the Bills are trying to

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01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: be a successful business in a land of as you said,

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01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: billionaire owners who are grossing far more revenue in the

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01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: other larger markets than the Bills are here. And I

1502
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: understand there's revenue sharing and all of that, but I

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01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: think sometimes because we are all focused on how it's

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01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,919
Speaker 1: going to impact me. We lose sight of the balance

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01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: that the Bills as an organization has to strike, and

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01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: that's the balance of appealing to their customer base while

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01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: also having a level of business savvy that allows them

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: to compete with the other teams in this league. They

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01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: have to balance the cost of doing business at this level,

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01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: which is a world class level of sports, while also

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01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 1: balancing the wants and needs of their customers. And they're

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01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: trying to strike that balance. And when you bring a

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01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 1: new stadium into the equation, it's going to complicate that

1514
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: balance because it's gonna mean a whole new way of

1515
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: doing thing. The balance is gonna be there. There's gonna

1516
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 1: be seats that are really affordable. And it doesn't mean

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to sit a half mile away from

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01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: the field. Either, you're gonna be able to watch the

1519
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: game and see it. It's gonna be great. You're gonna look.

1520
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great, don't think. And the Bills don't

1521
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: have to compete financially with New York or LA or

1522
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: Houston or Chicago or whatever. All they gotta do is

1523
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: maximize whatever's here in Buffalo, and the research they've done

1524
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: is going to allow them to do that. That's it.

1525
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: They're not gonna They're not gonna price themselves so high

1526
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: that nobody can come to the games. And it's not

1527
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna be people from LA buying season tickets to the

1528
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: bills and flying you know what I mean. It's not

1529
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna be like that. The balance is gonna It's always

1530
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: been struck the Sweet Holders, then it was the dugout Holders,

1531
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: then it was the M and T Club. There's gonna

1532
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: be an entire range of tickets, and if you want one,

1533
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: even as a season ticket holder, you're gonna be able

1534
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: to get it, and you're gonna be completely satisfied with

1535
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: this location and what it has to offer. You believe me.

1536
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: That's the balance that they are committed to striking. Certainly,

1537
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: there's gonna like there are now, They're gonna be seats

1538
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: in the stadium, like there are in this stadium here

1539
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: that I can't afford. I don't want. They're too much

1540
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: that happens here in high Mark. It's gonna be the

1541
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: same thing in the new one. Yep. So it's gonna

1542
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: be the same in that respect. They're gonna be seats

1543
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: you can afford and seats. There's no way I'm gonna

1544
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: I want that, right, So just don't get sidetracked with

1545
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: the numbers, because the numbers are gonna be in your reign.

1546
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna there's gonna be great seats, You're gonna love them,

1547
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be the ones you want to buy

1548
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: and can buy. We just gotta let that all those

1549
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: details kind of play out a little bit more. You're

1550
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: gonna hear a ton of things between now and the

1551
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: time that the concrete figures come out. Don't get bent

1552
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: sideways because of it until we see what the final

1553
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 1: offerings are. We have to take a break here, happy

1554
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 1: to say we're back on the video side for our

1555
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: MSG viewers. Steve and I back to close it up

1556
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Colloid of Health,

1557
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio, send it up for a Wednesday

1558
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: and Steve, I'm not going to pretend to know the

1559
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: inner workings of your brain. But as you know, earlier

1560
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 1: in the show, during a break, you were asking who

1561
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: is forty Miller on the Bills and I looked at

1562
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 1: you incredulously and said it's von Miller. I have a

1563
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: theory Okay, could you possibly have been thinking of this

1564
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: former Bill? Our MSG viewers are seeing the one year

1565
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: wonder at running back during the Chuck Knox era, Terry Miller.

1566
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: How about that who also wore jersey number forty? Is

1567
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: that you were thinking of? Probably? Not? Am I giving

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: you too much credit? Yeah? But because I didn't day

1569
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: it was Vaughan. I could not get because here's the thing,

1570
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm an old guy, right, So everything

1571
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: was happy. We were here last week and our regular listeners, no,

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01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: I mean it was like it was like name after

1573
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: name after name after name, and then you know, we

1574
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: were getting blitz and one of those in there was

1575
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: Von Millergan and Bills and that's awesome. We were all celebrating.

1576
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: I was talking to my friends about as unbelievable as grade.

1577
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: And then the next day it was you know, it

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01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: was Deshaun Watson and it was Matt Ryan, and you know,

1579
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: it was one gay thing after another, Davante Adams, all

1580
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: these lit you know, and so somewhere in there, oh yeah,

1581
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: by the way back there, you know, and so on

1582
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: our timeline, on our social media, on our Twitter page,

1583
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: somebody put they got a Miller number forty bills away Jersey,

1584
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's cool. Yeah, I go, Miller number forty.

1585
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: It must be the guy. I wonder what his And

1586
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: then the name was not Miller in the in the avatar, right,

1587
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: I go, who's right? The fans name is on what

1588
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out? Well, maybe you were channeling Terry

1589
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: Mill who knows. Yeah, and yeah he didn't have a

1590
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: very he was here for one season. I think, yeah,

1591
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: well yeah, Vaughan was here for like twelve hours. So

1592
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: you know, well, yeah, so you get a pass because

1593
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: it's the offseason. Take that pass, um, come training camp, though,

1594
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: you have to know who Miller number forty is. I

1595
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: will probably guarantee you that from maybe from this day forward,

1596
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: I will be responsible for rerealizing von Miller is number

1597
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: forty for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, so that's that's your task,

1598
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: and maybe to help you will put it on the whiteboard.

1599
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's show, we will have Shield Capatia joining us, who's

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: got some interesting stuff coming out on the Bills based

1601
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: on what he covered and I guess, to a certain extent,

1602
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: uncovered at the owners meetings this week in Palm Beach, Florida.

1603
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: So looking forward to talking to him. Those meetings wrapped

1604
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: up a couple of rule changes, the overtimes and the

1605
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: Bills Stadium got you know, they're in on that, so

1606
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff went on. The owner's meetings will

1607
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: wrap that up. And we've got shoot conditioning starts up

1608
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: next week for some of the new head coaches. Yes,

1609
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: new head coaches get their players back sooner. April fourth,

1610
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 1: that's next week, man. Yeah, it's coming up fast. Steve

1611
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: and I will join you tomorrow. Be sure you join us.

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01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: One pm is the time here on one Bill's Live.

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01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: We'll see you that