WEBVTT - Making the Cut with Nick Viall 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.240 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio jodcast. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:11.240 Oh and Michael Causin, all right, got to change. That's 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.480 the guitar and I hear things. Do you want to 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.720 give it a run? It's good. Every time I'm on 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.320 a podcast, I listen to the opening songs. I want 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.840 to like get notes. Um, I like it. For those 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.600 of you that don't know that voice, this is Nick Vale. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.720 What's up? Nick? How are you good? How are you? 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.479 I'm really delightful. Thank you for asking how you are. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.599 That's good. Um. So for those of our wind Down 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.640 listeners that don't know you, let me just give them 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.360 a little rundown. Nick was on The Bachelor Bachelorte Bachelor 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.040 in Paradise. You first started Andy dorphan season where you 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.919 receive the first impression roads five years ago. Five years ago, 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.760 so if you're like forever kind of confessed his love 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.279 for her as one of the final two bachelors, Oh Dune, 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.160 Dune Dune. She chose someone else and then he popped 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.400 onto Caitlin Bristow's season. It was more or less invited 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:14.000 and final growth thereon, she chose Sean ca Dm. She 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.520 did every everyone knows this okay, and then you want 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.480 to bachelor on Paradise, But then you had your own 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.080 season of the Bachelor, which, by the way, when that 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.760 choice came up, because you were kind of like hated 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.840 a little bit. Not then, No, because I was when 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.280 you were a bachelor. No, when I was on That's 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.320 why I was the Bachelor because of Paradise, because that 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:41.840 was oh quite quite much. Yeah. Um, I mean, accord, 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.160 we all know Janna hated me. I guess no, no, no no, no, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.560 it was just an interesting choice because you had already 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.920 had two shots, three shots apparently. Um, he had staying power. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.800 I know, but like both three girls. Well you turned 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.280 down the one girl? But then did you turn it 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.000 down because you knew you wanted to be the bachelor? No? No, 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.720 you just didn't feel the love I did. Not do 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.120 people eat Paradise Actually in relationships, yeah, Jade and Tayner 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:15.240 arguably has a better track record than the Bachelor or Bachelorette. Um, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.880 can I just ask you a question? Sure, so I 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:27.400 know both? No, because I know I'm friends with the 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:32.080 Andy I was would say I know that I'm friends 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.880 with Andy. Oh well no, I mean I'm friends with 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:41.400 Andy and how close? Um? Why doesn't matter. I mean 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.800 we're not like besties, but we chat whatever. I'm in 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.880 New York. We'll have a drink, We'll get a glass 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.839 of wine. She's a really nice girl. I like her. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.920 I was friends with Caitlin. Well, not that I'm not 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.960 what happened? Oh whose podcast is this? Because I'm the 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:59.160 one asking the question. Son Um, I mean we're fine now, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.359 but we have a little bit of a falling out. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.639 I wouldn't say we're I mean we're we're fine now. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.160 But I also know Vanessa because obviously she's on my 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.720 heart radio. So all his women have like really strong personalities. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:17.600 They do super super super strong. It's exhausting. But then 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.359 why do you continue to pick the same women. It's 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.800 a great question, that's my question. Excellent question. You. Uh, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.000 couple of things. Okay, mommy issues. No, my mom is 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:33.200 truly a saint. Uh. Interestingly enough, my mom is exactly 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:37.640 the opposite of those women. Those women I have, in 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:42.440 fairness to those women, always been attracted to very strong personalities. Uh. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.160 And my defense is relates to those three women. Those 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.920 were obviously, as the show goes, unique circumstances. I didn't 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.560 select Andy when she was the patch slor At I 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.560 showed up but not new Caitlin was a unique situation 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.000 where we didn't know each other and I actually specifically 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.840 came for the girl. Uh. And then as when I 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.280 was the Bachelor, do you guys think you would have 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.800 really made it work? Though? Yeah? Yeah, made she made 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.040 the right choice. Um yeah, And then and you know, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.040 I also didn't pick the thirty women that came out 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:14.680 of Lima when I was the Bachelor. You didn't have 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.560 one say no, now, you didn't get to look at 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.400 any of the girls or something. I would have cast 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.400 it Liz who affects with at a wedding. And then 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.720 we didn't talk. And then I was like, hey, come on, 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.400 let's talk about it. That was weird. It was a 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:33.000 weird one. Um, did you not watch Paradise? No, I 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.679 don't watch Paradise. I just watched the beginning to miss 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.320 on your part. Also, it's like my best work franchise, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.680 So no, I did. I did not watch Paradise at 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.800 all anyways. Um, but Vanessa was sweet. She was you know, 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:50.400 she helped kids, she was but very strong personality. Again 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.800 because I exp we just hung out a nappa, but 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:02.919 so sweet her her first impression and yeah, strong, beautiful, 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.880 great is the room. She's an absolute pro at the 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.839 first impression. What's the second impression? Just like I'm just 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.760 saying her first impression, it's fantastic, right, But we go 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.120 deep on the show, we go real deep. We talk 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.720 about you know all of it. Um, I don't know 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.359 share our first impression is great, It's really great. I 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:29.600 was gonna say, I think strong personalities, strong real personalities 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.920 tend to get attracted to strong women. Personalities do sometimes 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.280 sometimes not. I have sometimes find it is it will 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.799 be opposite to try. I think. When it does, though, 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.960 it can be great because at the same time, if 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.840 someone who has a strong personality get someone who's submissive 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.159 all the time, that's not a challenge. That's not fun. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.080 You and I, I mean you and I have to 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.000 have someone that challenges each other otherwise we walk all 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.359 over them. I don't know you that well, but I 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.200 don't know Mike at all. But do you guys have 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:03.120 strong personalities? Yeah? Very strong, And I mean they were 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.560 sweetest of guys, Like, I mean, I could name them. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.760 They're they were so sweet. But it's like I will 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:15.000 literally walk fall and I did want anything. I can 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:20.120 do for you right whatever you whatever you want, hey, 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.799 um or listen. I have found to Mike's point, Um, listen, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.520 I haven't figured it out yet in terms of my 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:39.799 my match. Yeah, I know my skin. Uh, I'm just kidding, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.360 but I listen that what I've learned in life is 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:48.040 that sometimes, um, someone with a strong personality. I like confidence. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.240 I'm attracted confidence. I think most people are, and I 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.120 think sometimes it's easy to mistaken people with strong personality 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.920 is confident people. Sometimes people who are who have strong 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.560 personalities and project what seems be confidence over time reveals 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.840 itself to be a lot of insecurities, and sometimes that 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.640 big personality will project project their insecurities and another person 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.800 who is also confident. Because if you are, uh, if 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.480 you're position yourself and present yourself as a confident person 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.600 and then get yourself in a situation where you feel 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.800 threatened or feel intimidated, and whether it's a friendship or 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.080 work situation or a relationship, sometimes that can come out. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.239 I have found in relationships with women I have dated 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.560 that again, I'm sure I'm doing things, and there a 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.280 lot of things I can work on as a as 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.040 a partner, but I find that I bring out some 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.480 of those insecurities because I've always been a confident person 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.880 and it becomes contentious and it doesn't. It's not a 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.480 relationship where you're bringing each other up a brother bringing 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.960 each other down. Yeah, what is your fault? You think 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.080 in relationships? Like where do you think that you could? Like? 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:49.400 What's the one thing that you know that you have 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.520 to work on? M that you like? For me, Like, 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.520 I know I'm super passive in a relationship. I need 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.360 to learn how to not be as passive. I'm not. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.520 I can some I need to well in life, I 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.600 need to listen better. I also will play devil's advocate 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.080 a little too much in a relationship. Um, And what 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:11.640 I've learned, I mean, I'll you know, I've learned this 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.680 from female friends and all friends that like sometimes especially 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.000 maybe let me know, Jenna, But if a woman is 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.560 expressing her frustration about any situation, sometimes she doesn't want 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.240 a solution. She just wants to set the up and 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.600 let her vent. And I can sometimes struggle with that 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.760 because I'm a solution based guy. It's like, all right, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.880 let's break it down, all right, Like you know, like 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.360 this is a math equation and one plus one plus one, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.719 he goes four for three or whatever. I don't know. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.280 I ter carry the two and here's here's how you 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:40.680 do it. And she's like, just go, but I don't 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.719 want to yell. Yeah, and so I can. I can 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:47.040 be better at that? Interesting, I mean most men probably. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.160 I mean I'm not a rare bird in that, but 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.800 not at all. But I really I could really work 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.320 on it. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I could really. I mean, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.520 you want to settle down very much, so sometimes my 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.120 actions don't reflect my desires. But do you have any interest, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.160 like in dating anyone that's not a social stature? Like 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.559 do you consider anybody and everybody? It all just kind 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.800 of depends on Yeah. Really that it's a really opened 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.440 the flawed gates. I'm really open to anything at this point. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.000 What about Tanya? What about Tanya? She's a sweet girl. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.480 I don't know, you're always trying to pimp out Tanya. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.800 I love her, She's great. I don't know if we 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.120 would really, I think we're better friends. Yeah, So, like, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.480 would you want confident? But then I feel like you 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.400 also want submissive. It's very confusing. I think you're a 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.920 very confusing bird. Like I can't I can't read you, 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.240 because I think that's what the draw is. I think 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:45.360 that's why girls people because interesting, because I often am 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.400 told that, and yet I often think I'm an open book. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.920 I'm a very honest, blunt person. I will tell you 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.719 how I feel if you ask me a question, and 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.360 yet for some reason people can't figure me out. I 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.280 think part of it is because I have many different 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.079 opinions about things, and I do have you know, sometimes 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.360 they can be really quiet. Sometimes I can be big, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:11.040 like loud, um, what do you think? Just on the 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.640 I don't I didn't watch it as much as Jana, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.679 but the first few seasons, yeah, but it seemed like 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.160 guys weren't warm and fuzzy with you right like. It 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.439 always kind of seemed like they the way Maybe it's 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.120 just the way they produced it or edited that you 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.319 were kind of on your own and not you know, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.559 buddy Buddy with all the all the all the bros. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.599 Some truth to that early on and some of it 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.280 TV show on Andy season, it was very browy season. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:41.440 It was like particularly like like Bro. It was also 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.880 can and Sean just like fun. That's the thing that 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.760 Caitlyn thing is so specifically to the Andy season. It 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.320 was a browy season and it was a poorly cast 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.640 I mean, Andy season was one of the lowest rated 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.320 bat Shirts of all time, and that was mostly because 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.680 it was kind of a boring season where they didn't 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.000 really have a villain. I was made to be the 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.079 villain and that was the runner up. And when you 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.280 watch it back, it was like, it's not really doing anything. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.319 He gets he seems relatively normal, but like, you know, 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.439 I gave Andy, I mean, I was a villain because 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.880 I was strategic. That was my big crime, as I 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.320 gave her flowers. And so I think there wasn't at 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.439 the worst, you know, you didn't have the chat or 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.400 some of this real drama, all these different storylines. It 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.040 was a bunch of guys who were like bro and 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.040 everyone was like cool with each other because and I 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.280 was just like and I really liked Andy and there 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.360 was a real relationship and I just was like I 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:36.600 didn't have time for them. Um as far as Catlin season, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:42.920 I showed up, right, I showed up as the perceived villain, right. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.959 So all these guys at the time, the Tanners and 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.439 the Jared's and the bends of the world, you know, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.559 there you know, then I came in they had this 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.200 literal target on my back. They were all really sweet 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:56.520 and it's funny. I'm you know, Jared, Jared Tanner, some 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.360 really good funds of mine, as well as Ben Higgins. Um, 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.319 they're all really cool. It was at that point just 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.760 so the story of the entire season was just Nick 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.360 versus Sean. That's that was the literally the whole season. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.559 So are you? Are you Caitlin versus if you could pick, 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:15.920 it's a Caitlin or Sean team whom nobody you guys, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.880 you have like a total hatred for her. No, and 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.400 that's not true. Caitlyn called me last week. Oh well, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.760 there was a big article in US about how you guys, 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.320 I call it big another artist. Thanks for keeping up 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.360 on me. No, no, I'm not keeping up on you. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:36.080 I was keeping up on US weekly there for my stories. Um, okay, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.160 well that's so you guys are fine now, she called. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.560 I mean I was always fun. I was always annoyed 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:45.600 with Caitlin. Um because over the past, I mean, in reality, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.600 I showed up for a season which she uh basically 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.320 asked me to show up. I was I willingly also 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.920 wanted to show up. I very at the time strong 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.880 feelings for you know, the little relationship we had before 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.680 h um, and since you know, then she picked Sean, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.240 which was ultimately the right choice, and then I basically 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.720 went away. You know, I didn't talk about her. If anything, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.400 when she was getting criticism for the whole like sex 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.360 and whatever, and she was getting heat, I was defending her. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.079 And then other than that, I just kind of went away. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.840 And basically for the past three and a half years, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.360 when it was ever convenient for her, whether it was 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.280 like a snarky joke or on her podcast, I was 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.560 always mean thrown under the bus by her for whatever reason, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.480 and this implication that like, well then the producers maybe 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.560 bring Nick or blah blah blah, and I'm always like, yeah, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.719 none of those remotely true kind of thing. And so 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.440 I was just always frustrating, and she made some more comments, 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.840 and at this point now you know that the excuse 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.800 was always Sean. You know, I was like, well, you know, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.319 because Sean is insecure San, Sean is this, and um, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.959 so I was pretty pissed, and so I made some 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.040 comment which I probably shouldn't have done, but I would 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.079 when it came when it comes to Caitlin. I'm very 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.640 sensitive about that situation because it was like, dude, look 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.040 what the well you took the high road and she 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.480 kept throwing ja well not only talking the high road, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.679 it was no hyrod like. It was like we broke up, like, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.079 you know, like I showed up. I'm sorry your fiance 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.959 hates me, but like what did I do? Um? And 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.760 to appease him? Like I was literally the butt of 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.160 jokes except when I was the batch or whenever it 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.400 was convenient for her. She would willingly show up on 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.560 Jimmy like she if it was you know, and so 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.720 that was frustrating. So anyways, she called. We had a 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.360 very nice conversation. She was very gracious, and it was 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.280 a conversation that she acknowledged should have happened a much 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.000 long ago. And it was a great It was a 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.840 great conversation and it was water under the bridge, and 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.960 it was probably some closure. I'd probably even thought I 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.880 I needed the time, but she certainly validated a lot 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.480 of things I had always thought and kind of acknowledged 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.280 and admitted. And it was it was nice to finally 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.480 hear so and her and Sea are done. Yeah she's dating, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.360 So that's probably why she was able to finally have 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.520 that conversation with you. It sounds like it, but it 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.760 really kind of piste me off the sense of yeah 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.120 I can I told her this. I was like, dude, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.120 like I went away and it's like, for some reason, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.240 you've painted this narrative for three and a half years 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:08.960 that I was like some sort of prior to you, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.440 when in reality there were stories that she too like 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:17.120 it was like quite the opposite. It was like, um, 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.760 and so again she was gracious and kind of things 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.520 that she admitted and acknowledged, and I was like, well, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.480 I'm not great. You know. It's like I know I'm 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.680 not crazy, but thank you for acknowledging I'm not crazy. Um. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.640 I think I think people's own insecurities can kind of 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:37.640 get in the way of you know, yeah, yeah, that 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.960 can happen. So so what are you doing now? You've 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.680 done all this bachelor stuff, You've done everything under the sun, Like, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.400 what what about Nick? Now? And moving forward? About now? 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.560 What about I like that? What about Nick? Now? It's 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.000 a good show? Nick Now? I have named my podcast 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:56.080 now you should have the vil Files. Nick Now. I 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.240 have a podcast. It's called The Vile Files. It's Uh, 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.080 that's going well. Seen people seem to like it, seemed 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.360 to dig it. Jan is going to come on. I 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.280 am super pumped about that. What's the topic of conversation. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.200 It's a lot of dating focus, but it's not I'm 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:12.840 just going to grill you about what is it? Like 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.840 you know, because you you I don't think you go 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.080 you need to go a little deeper, like there's something 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.560 deep rooted in you. Yeah, don't you have you listen 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.840 to podcast? I don't know. Well, are you talking about me? 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.160 I don't care. No, but I mean you haven't listened 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.320 to this, probably exactly, but no. Um, like I feel 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.760 like you like there's something that you're trying to find 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.360 and in myself. Yeah, you want to put me on 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:40.760 your couch, so to speak. Okay, Um, we do a 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.640 lot of dating stuff. It all kind of stemmed from 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.640 my questions with Nick that I do on my Instagram 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.040 and so fans will call in and with a lot 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.720 of dating questions, sex questions, Well we'll dive into it. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.200 We cover the Bachelor when it's on Bachelorette rather for 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.400 a little bit. No, we're just gonna talk about life 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.480 and you know, so he's doing oils now I also 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:04.200 have also oil company that jan is all about essential oils. Well, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.560 she now has USD organic essential oil blends from natural habits. Yes, 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.280 and can you because Michael doesn't. And I really don't 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:13.760 know what they're doing either, but I just know that 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.880 I've been told they're good for I'm constantly diffusing around 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.920 the house and then I'm how what do I do 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.120 to Jay's? But I'm doing it wrong. I wish people 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.440 would see like before It's like she's blessing Jay's before 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.359 he goes to bed with essential oils. It's like on 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.440 his forehead, on his feet, like behind his ears, and Jenny, 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.960 you want to be careful, uh, depending on the essential 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.639 oil and the quality of the oils. Essential oils have 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.120 medicinal benefits and they're very potent in a great way, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.160 but you do want to be careful by putting pure 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.640 essential oils directly on your skin and children's skin because 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.679 they have sensitive um. If you're gonna put essential oils 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.000 on your on your skin, you wanted to loot it 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.000 with a cry oil. Essential oils does that with their 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.600 roll ons already. So we have the pure essential oil 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:57.959 that you put in a diffused it or you went 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.800 on put into a couple of few drops under warm 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.560 back and you can get the aroma therapy that way. Um. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.159 And we specially we blend them already so they're already blended, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.480 so they have specific like you make me a baby blend, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.680 I want to mean a baby blend. So another company 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.240 which I won't name because we're promoting yours, the level 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.399 marketing company called Young Living. Oh yeah, man, they have 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.320 a get not us dr again, but they say this 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.439 for baby like gentle baby sniffle ease for the kids. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.480 I mean, that's all marketing in a sense, but we 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.600 try to focus on the actual like benefits. And you 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.440 know the thing about the Essential oil company, sometimes it 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.760 gets a bad rap because central oils can be very 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.760 beneficial for you, right, they can have a lot of 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.280 various benefits. But sometimes because I think my husband's we 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.760 have like the center blend is it's specific. It's blends 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.760 of various oils to help reduce and um headaches. So 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.040 if you're prone to headaches, you would diffuse it in 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:54.680 your house or roll it on the and the roll 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.520 ons and well, if you have a headache will help 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.600 reduce it. And if you are prone to headaches. It 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.879 will help you not at them at all. Our release 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.159 is great for winding that at the end of the 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:04.960 day are going to sleep. It helps with anxiety. That's 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.159 why I started using essential oils. You have anxiety to 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.960 very bad. I have terrible anxiety, So I would use 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:11.679 the release a lot. The rise of something you'd use 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.679 in the morning kind of gives you a little uh 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.720 mental clarity. UM focus, you know, kind of gives you 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.880 some energy boost of energy. You use them all through 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:24.919 the fusers. Mike a warm bath if you ever bath up, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.600 I'm a big bath. How did you put a few drops? 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.399 And our protectives for immunity boost with UM so the 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.159 the blends that are already in there. And so if 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.160 you if you call which one I put on any well, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:37.680 I mean, like I don't think your baby gets headaches, 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.440 and maybe not that. I think the protect would probably 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.600 something I would put on because it helps boost their immunity. 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.439 You can put the UM release on there for sure. Okay, 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.680 why do you have anxiety? Why don't I have anxiety 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.639 and put it on you? When you put it on 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.200 a baby, put on the bottom of your feet, they're temple. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.600 That's one of the many locations. It's diluted. It's diluted 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.280 the roll on UM so are it's safe. But you know, 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.399 if you want to be extract cautious, UM sample it 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:07.440 and if they don't have any type of reaction. But 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.239 what differs you, guys from all the other essential oils, Well, 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.160 the biggest ones. We are U s D Organic certified, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.159 which in the essential oil space is unique. We're not 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.239 the only ones, but we're one of the few. UM. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.399 A lot of companies will call themselves add percent pure. Uh, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.560 some kindanies will call themselves therapeutic grade. That's it. If 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.960 you google it, it's made up designation that's not recognized 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.680 by any official third party in the U s D. 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.240 A UM has qualified our oils is organic because of 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.320 the farms that we source for oils from and they 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.080 have no contamination or wrote off or adulter ins or 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.840 fragrances or alcohol that we put in them. So an 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:45.159 you really think it's helped your anxiety? Yeah? Absolutely? Is 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.000 it just in your head? No, it's absolutely not your 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.840 head when it comes to essential oils. It's listen, it's 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.720 it's something. It's one thing I used to help with 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.880 my overall mental emotional and physical well being. Exercising also 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.720 helps my anxiety. Eating right also helps with anxiety. Staying 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.640 off my phone, it's one thing that helps me. Um 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.119 the center Blend. It helps me with my headaches sometimes. 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.240