Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio jodcast.
Speaker 1: Oh and Michael Causin, all right, got to change. That's
Speaker 1: the guitar and I hear things. Do you want to
Speaker 1: give it a run? It's good. Every time I'm on
Speaker 1: a podcast, I listen to the opening songs. I want
Speaker 1: to like get notes. Um, I like it. For those
Speaker 1: of you that don't know that voice, this is Nick Vale.
Speaker 1: What's up? Nick? How are you good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm really delightful. Thank you for asking how you are.
Speaker 1: That's good. Um. So for those of our wind Down
Speaker 1: listeners that don't know you, let me just give them
Speaker 1: a little rundown. Nick was on The Bachelor Bachelorte Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise. You first started Andy dorphan season where you
Speaker 1: receive the first impression roads five years ago. Five years ago,
Speaker 1: so if you're like forever kind of confessed his love
Speaker 1: for her as one of the final two bachelors, Oh Dune,
Speaker 1: Dune Dune. She chose someone else and then he popped
Speaker 1: onto Caitlin Bristow's season. It was more or less invited
Speaker 1: and final growth thereon, she chose Sean ca Dm. She
Speaker 1: did every everyone knows this okay, and then you want
Speaker 1: to bachelor on Paradise, But then you had your own
Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor, which, by the way, when that
Speaker 1: choice came up, because you were kind of like hated
Speaker 1: a little bit. Not then, No, because I was when
Speaker 1: you were a bachelor. No, when I was on That's
Speaker 1: why I was the Bachelor because of Paradise, because that
Speaker 1: was oh quite quite much. Yeah. Um, I mean, accord,
Speaker 1: we all know Janna hated me. I guess no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: it was just an interesting choice because you had already
Speaker 1: had two shots, three shots apparently. Um, he had staying power.
Speaker 1: I know, but like both three girls. Well you turned
Speaker 1: down the one girl? But then did you turn it
Speaker 1: down because you knew you wanted to be the bachelor? No? No,
Speaker 1: you just didn't feel the love I did. Not do
Speaker 1: people eat Paradise Actually in relationships, yeah, Jade and Tayner
Speaker 1: arguably has a better track record than the Bachelor or Bachelorette. Um,
Speaker 1: can I just ask you a question? Sure, so I
Speaker 1: know both? No, because I know I'm friends with the
Speaker 1: Andy I was would say I know that I'm friends
Speaker 1: with Andy. Oh well no, I mean I'm friends with
Speaker 1: Andy and how close? Um? Why doesn't matter. I mean
Speaker 1: we're not like besties, but we chat whatever. I'm in
Speaker 1: New York. We'll have a drink, We'll get a glass
Speaker 1: of wine. She's a really nice girl. I like her.
Speaker 1: I was friends with Caitlin. Well, not that I'm not
Speaker 1: what happened? Oh whose podcast is this? Because I'm the
Speaker 1: one asking the question. Son Um, I mean we're fine now,
Speaker 1: but we have a little bit of a falling out.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we're I mean we're we're fine now.
Speaker 1: But I also know Vanessa because obviously she's on my
Speaker 1: heart radio. So all his women have like really strong personalities.
Speaker 1: They do super super super strong. It's exhausting. But then
Speaker 1: why do you continue to pick the same women. It's
Speaker 1: a great question, that's my question. Excellent question. You. Uh,
Speaker 1: couple of things. Okay, mommy issues. No, my mom is
Speaker 1: truly a saint. Uh. Interestingly enough, my mom is exactly
Speaker 1: the opposite of those women. Those women I have, in
Speaker 1: fairness to those women, always been attracted to very strong personalities. Uh.
Speaker 1: And my defense is relates to those three women. Those
Speaker 1: were obviously, as the show goes, unique circumstances. I didn't
Speaker 1: select Andy when she was the patch slor At I
Speaker 1: showed up but not new Caitlin was a unique situation
Speaker 1: where we didn't know each other and I actually specifically
Speaker 1: came for the girl. Uh. And then as when I
Speaker 1: was the Bachelor, do you guys think you would have
Speaker 1: really made it work? Though? Yeah? Yeah, made she made
Speaker 1: the right choice. Um yeah, And then and you know,
Speaker 1: I also didn't pick the thirty women that came out
Speaker 1: of Lima when I was the Bachelor. You didn't have
Speaker 1: one say no, now, you didn't get to look at
Speaker 1: any of the girls or something. I would have cast
Speaker 1: it Liz who affects with at a wedding. And then
Speaker 1: we didn't talk. And then I was like, hey, come on,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. That was weird. It was a
Speaker 1: weird one. Um, did you not watch Paradise? No, I
Speaker 1: don't watch Paradise. I just watched the beginning to miss
Speaker 1: on your part. Also, it's like my best work franchise,
Speaker 1: So no, I did. I did not watch Paradise at
Speaker 1: all anyways. Um, but Vanessa was sweet. She was you know,
Speaker 1: she helped kids, she was but very strong personality. Again
Speaker 1: because I exp we just hung out a nappa, but
Speaker 1: so sweet her her first impression and yeah, strong, beautiful,
Speaker 1: great is the room. She's an absolute pro at the
Speaker 1: first impression. What's the second impression? Just like I'm just
Speaker 1: saying her first impression, it's fantastic, right, But we go
Speaker 1: deep on the show, we go real deep. We talk
Speaker 1: about you know all of it. Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: share our first impression is great, It's really great. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I think strong personalities, strong real personalities
Speaker 1: tend to get attracted to strong women. Personalities do sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes not. I have sometimes find it is it will
Speaker 1: be opposite to try. I think. When it does, though,
Speaker 1: it can be great because at the same time, if
Speaker 1: someone who has a strong personality get someone who's submissive
Speaker 1: all the time, that's not a challenge. That's not fun.
Speaker 1: You and I, I mean you and I have to
Speaker 1: have someone that challenges each other otherwise we walk all
Speaker 1: over them. I don't know you that well, but I
Speaker 1: don't know Mike at all. But do you guys have
Speaker 1: strong personalities? Yeah? Very strong, And I mean they were
Speaker 1: sweetest of guys, Like, I mean, I could name them.
Speaker 1: They're they were so sweet. But it's like I will
Speaker 1: literally walk fall and I did want anything. I can
Speaker 1: do for you right whatever you whatever you want, hey,
Speaker 1: um or listen. I have found to Mike's point, Um, listen,
Speaker 1: I haven't figured it out yet in terms of my
Speaker 1: my match. Yeah, I know my skin. Uh, I'm just kidding,
Speaker 1: but I listen that what I've learned in life is
Speaker 1: that sometimes, um, someone with a strong personality. I like confidence.
Speaker 1: I'm attracted confidence. I think most people are, and I
Speaker 1: think sometimes it's easy to mistaken people with strong personality
Speaker 1: is confident people. Sometimes people who are who have strong
Speaker 1: personalities and project what seems be confidence over time reveals
Speaker 1: itself to be a lot of insecurities, and sometimes that
Speaker 1: big personality will project project their insecurities and another person
Speaker 1: who is also confident. Because if you are, uh, if
Speaker 1: you're position yourself and present yourself as a confident person
Speaker 1: and then get yourself in a situation where you feel
Speaker 1: threatened or feel intimidated, and whether it's a friendship or
Speaker 1: work situation or a relationship, sometimes that can come out.
Speaker 1: I have found in relationships with women I have dated
Speaker 1: that again, I'm sure I'm doing things, and there a
Speaker 1: lot of things I can work on as a as
Speaker 1: a partner, but I find that I bring out some
Speaker 1: of those insecurities because I've always been a confident person
Speaker 1: and it becomes contentious and it doesn't. It's not a
Speaker 1: relationship where you're bringing each other up a brother bringing
Speaker 1: each other down. Yeah, what is your fault? You think
Speaker 1: in relationships? Like where do you think that you could? Like?
Speaker 1: What's the one thing that you know that you have
Speaker 1: to work on? M that you like? For me, Like,
Speaker 1: I know I'm super passive in a relationship. I need
Speaker 1: to learn how to not be as passive. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can some I need to well in life, I
Speaker 1: need to listen better. I also will play devil's advocate
Speaker 1: a little too much in a relationship. Um, And what
Speaker 1: I've learned, I mean, I'll you know, I've learned this
Speaker 1: from female friends and all friends that like sometimes especially
Speaker 1: maybe let me know, Jenna, But if a woman is
Speaker 1: expressing her frustration about any situation, sometimes she doesn't want
Speaker 1: a solution. She just wants to set the up and
Speaker 1: let her vent. And I can sometimes struggle with that
Speaker 1: because I'm a solution based guy. It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's break it down, all right, Like you know, like
Speaker 1: this is a math equation and one plus one plus one,
Speaker 1: he goes four for three or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I ter carry the two and here's here's how you
Speaker 1: do it. And she's like, just go, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to yell. Yeah, and so I can. I can
Speaker 1: be better at that? Interesting, I mean most men probably.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not a rare bird in that, but
Speaker 1: not at all. But I really I could really work
Speaker 1: on it. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I could really. I mean,
Speaker 1: you want to settle down very much, so sometimes my
Speaker 1: actions don't reflect my desires. But do you have any interest,
Speaker 1: like in dating anyone that's not a social stature? Like
Speaker 1: do you consider anybody and everybody? It all just kind
Speaker 1: of depends on Yeah. Really that it's a really opened
Speaker 1: the flawed gates. I'm really open to anything at this point.
Speaker 1: What about Tanya? What about Tanya? She's a sweet girl.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're always trying to pimp out Tanya.
Speaker 1: I love her, She's great. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: would really, I think we're better friends. Yeah, So, like,
Speaker 1: would you want confident? But then I feel like you
Speaker 1: also want submissive. It's very confusing. I think you're a
Speaker 1: very confusing bird. Like I can't I can't read you,
Speaker 1: because I think that's what the draw is. I think
Speaker 1: that's why girls people because interesting, because I often am
Speaker 1: told that, and yet I often think I'm an open book.
Speaker 1: I'm a very honest, blunt person. I will tell you
Speaker 1: how I feel if you ask me a question, and
Speaker 1: yet for some reason people can't figure me out. I
Speaker 1: think part of it is because I have many different
Speaker 1: opinions about things, and I do have you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: they can be really quiet. Sometimes I can be big,
Speaker 1: like loud, um, what do you think? Just on the
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't watch it as much as Jana,
Speaker 1: but the first few seasons, yeah, but it seemed like
Speaker 1: guys weren't warm and fuzzy with you right like. It
Speaker 1: always kind of seemed like they the way Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just the way they produced it or edited that you
Speaker 1: were kind of on your own and not you know,
Speaker 1: buddy Buddy with all the all the all the bros.
Speaker 1: Some truth to that early on and some of it
Speaker 1: TV show on Andy season, it was very browy season.
Speaker 1: It was like particularly like like Bro. It was also
Speaker 1: can and Sean just like fun. That's the thing that
Speaker 1: Caitlyn thing is so specifically to the Andy season. It
Speaker 1: was a browy season and it was a poorly cast
Speaker 1: I mean, Andy season was one of the lowest rated
Speaker 1: bat Shirts of all time, and that was mostly because
Speaker 1: it was kind of a boring season where they didn't
Speaker 1: really have a villain. I was made to be the
Speaker 1: villain and that was the runner up. And when you
Speaker 1: watch it back, it was like, it's not really doing anything.
Speaker 1: He gets he seems relatively normal, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: I gave Andy, I mean, I was a villain because
Speaker 1: I was strategic. That was my big crime, as I
Speaker 1: gave her flowers. And so I think there wasn't at
Speaker 1: the worst, you know, you didn't have the chat or
Speaker 1: some of this real drama, all these different storylines. It
Speaker 1: was a bunch of guys who were like bro and
Speaker 1: everyone was like cool with each other because and I
Speaker 1: was just like and I really liked Andy and there
Speaker 1: was a real relationship and I just was like I
Speaker 1: didn't have time for them. Um as far as Catlin season,
Speaker 1: I showed up, right, I showed up as the perceived villain, right.
Speaker 1: So all these guys at the time, the Tanners and
Speaker 1: the Jared's and the bends of the world, you know,
Speaker 1: there you know, then I came in they had this
Speaker 1: literal target on my back. They were all really sweet
Speaker 1: and it's funny. I'm you know, Jared, Jared Tanner, some
Speaker 1: really good funds of mine, as well as Ben Higgins. Um,
Speaker 1: they're all really cool. It was at that point just
Speaker 1: so the story of the entire season was just Nick
Speaker 1: versus Sean. That's that was the literally the whole season.
Speaker 1: So are you? Are you Caitlin versus if you could pick,
Speaker 1: it's a Caitlin or Sean team whom nobody you guys,
Speaker 1: you have like a total hatred for her. No, and
Speaker 1: that's not true. Caitlyn called me last week. Oh well,
Speaker 1: there was a big article in US about how you guys,
Speaker 1: I call it big another artist. Thanks for keeping up
Speaker 1: on me. No, no, I'm not keeping up on you.
Speaker 1: I was keeping up on US weekly there for my stories. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: well that's so you guys are fine now, she called.
Speaker 1: I mean I was always fun. I was always annoyed
Speaker 1: with Caitlin. Um because over the past, I mean, in reality,
Speaker 1: I showed up for a season which she uh basically
Speaker 1: asked me to show up. I was I willingly also
Speaker 1: wanted to show up. I very at the time strong
Speaker 1: feelings for you know, the little relationship we had before
Speaker 1: h um, and since you know, then she picked Sean,
Speaker 1: which was ultimately the right choice, and then I basically
Speaker 1: went away. You know, I didn't talk about her. If anything,
Speaker 1: when she was getting criticism for the whole like sex
Speaker 1: and whatever, and she was getting heat, I was defending her.
Speaker 1: And then other than that, I just kind of went away.
Speaker 1: And basically for the past three and a half years,
Speaker 1: when it was ever convenient for her, whether it was
Speaker 1: like a snarky joke or on her podcast, I was
Speaker 1: always mean thrown under the bus by her for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: and this implication that like, well then the producers maybe
Speaker 1: bring Nick or blah blah blah, and I'm always like, yeah,
Speaker 1: none of those remotely true kind of thing. And so
Speaker 1: I was just always frustrating, and she made some more comments,
Speaker 1: and at this point now you know that the excuse
Speaker 1: was always Sean. You know, I was like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: because Sean is insecure San, Sean is this, and um,
Speaker 1: so I was pretty pissed, and so I made some
Speaker 1: comment which I probably shouldn't have done, but I would
Speaker 1: when it came when it comes to Caitlin. I'm very
Speaker 1: sensitive about that situation because it was like, dude, look
Speaker 1: what the well you took the high road and she
Speaker 1: kept throwing ja well not only talking the high road,
Speaker 1: it was no hyrod like. It was like we broke up, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I showed up. I'm sorry your fiance
Speaker 1: hates me, but like what did I do? Um? And
Speaker 1: to appease him? Like I was literally the butt of
Speaker 1: jokes except when I was the batch or whenever it
Speaker 1: was convenient for her. She would willingly show up on
Speaker 1: Jimmy like she if it was you know, and so
Speaker 1: that was frustrating. So anyways, she called. We had a
Speaker 1: very nice conversation. She was very gracious, and it was
Speaker 1: a conversation that she acknowledged should have happened a much
Speaker 1: long ago. And it was a great It was a
Speaker 1: great conversation and it was water under the bridge, and
Speaker 1: it was probably some closure. I'd probably even thought I
Speaker 1: I needed the time, but she certainly validated a lot
Speaker 1: of things I had always thought and kind of acknowledged
Speaker 1: and admitted. And it was it was nice to finally
Speaker 1: hear so and her and Sea are done. Yeah she's dating,
Speaker 1: So that's probably why she was able to finally have
Speaker 1: that conversation with you. It sounds like it, but it
Speaker 1: really kind of piste me off the sense of yeah
Speaker 1: I can I told her this. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: like I went away and it's like, for some reason,
Speaker 1: you've painted this narrative for three and a half years
Speaker 1: that I was like some sort of prior to you,
Speaker 1: when in reality there were stories that she too like
Speaker 1: it was like quite the opposite. It was like, um,
Speaker 1: and so again she was gracious and kind of things
Speaker 1: that she admitted and acknowledged, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not great. You know. It's like I know I'm
Speaker 1: not crazy, but thank you for acknowledging I'm not crazy. Um.
Speaker 1: I think I think people's own insecurities can kind of
Speaker 1: get in the way of you know, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: can happen. So so what are you doing now? You've
Speaker 1: done all this bachelor stuff, You've done everything under the sun, Like,
Speaker 1: what what about Nick? Now? And moving forward? About now?
Speaker 1: What about I like that? What about Nick? Now? It's
Speaker 1: a good show? Nick Now? I have named my podcast
Speaker 1: now you should have the vil Files. Nick Now. I
Speaker 1: have a podcast. It's called The Vile Files. It's Uh,
Speaker 1: that's going well. Seen people seem to like it, seemed
Speaker 1: to dig it. Jan is going to come on. I
Speaker 1: am super pumped about that. What's the topic of conversation.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of dating focus, but it's not I'm
Speaker 1: just going to grill you about what is it? Like
Speaker 1: you know, because you you I don't think you go
Speaker 1: you need to go a little deeper, like there's something
Speaker 1: deep rooted in you. Yeah, don't you have you listen
Speaker 1: to podcast? I don't know. Well, are you talking about me?
Speaker 1: I don't care. No, but I mean you haven't listened
Speaker 1: to this, probably exactly, but no. Um, like I feel
Speaker 1: like you like there's something that you're trying to find
Speaker 1: and in myself. Yeah, you want to put me on
Speaker 1: your couch, so to speak. Okay, Um, we do a
Speaker 1: lot of dating stuff. It all kind of stemmed from
Speaker 1: my questions with Nick that I do on my Instagram
Speaker 1: and so fans will call in and with a lot
Speaker 1: of dating questions, sex questions, Well we'll dive into it.
Speaker 1: We cover the Bachelor when it's on Bachelorette rather for
Speaker 1: a little bit. No, we're just gonna talk about life
Speaker 1: and you know, so he's doing oils now I also
Speaker 1: have also oil company that jan is all about essential oils. Well,
Speaker 1: she now has USD organic essential oil blends from natural habits. Yes,
Speaker 1: and can you because Michael doesn't. And I really don't
Speaker 1: know what they're doing either, but I just know that
Speaker 1: I've been told they're good for I'm constantly diffusing around
Speaker 1: the house and then I'm how what do I do
Speaker 1: to Jay's? But I'm doing it wrong. I wish people
Speaker 1: would see like before It's like she's blessing Jay's before
Speaker 1: he goes to bed with essential oils. It's like on
Speaker 1: his forehead, on his feet, like behind his ears, and Jenny,
Speaker 1: you want to be careful, uh, depending on the essential
Speaker 1: oil and the quality of the oils. Essential oils have
Speaker 1: medicinal benefits and they're very potent in a great way,
Speaker 1: but you do want to be careful by putting pure
Speaker 1: essential oils directly on your skin and children's skin because
Speaker 1: they have sensitive um. If you're gonna put essential oils
Speaker 1: on your on your skin, you wanted to loot it
Speaker 1: with a cry oil. Essential oils does that with their
Speaker 1: roll ons already. So we have the pure essential oil
Speaker 1: that you put in a diffused it or you went
Speaker 1: on put into a couple of few drops under warm
Speaker 1: back and you can get the aroma therapy that way. Um.
Speaker 1: And we specially we blend them already so they're already blended,
Speaker 1: so they have specific like you make me a baby blend,
Speaker 1: I want to mean a baby blend. So another company
Speaker 1: which I won't name because we're promoting yours, the level
Speaker 1: marketing company called Young Living. Oh yeah, man, they have
Speaker 1: a get not us dr again, but they say this
Speaker 1: for baby like gentle baby sniffle ease for the kids.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all marketing in a sense, but we
Speaker 1: try to focus on the actual like benefits. And you
Speaker 1: know the thing about the Essential oil company, sometimes it
Speaker 1: gets a bad rap because central oils can be very
Speaker 1: beneficial for you, right, they can have a lot of
Speaker 1: various benefits. But sometimes because I think my husband's we
Speaker 1: have like the center blend is it's specific. It's blends
Speaker 1: of various oils to help reduce and um headaches. So
Speaker 1: if you're prone to headaches, you would diffuse it in
Speaker 1: your house or roll it on the and the roll
Speaker 1: ons and well, if you have a headache will help
Speaker 1: reduce it. And if you are prone to headaches. It
Speaker 1: will help you not at them at all. Our release
Speaker 1: is great for winding that at the end of the
Speaker 1: day are going to sleep. It helps with anxiety. That's
Speaker 1: why I started using essential oils. You have anxiety to
Speaker 1: very bad. I have terrible anxiety, So I would use
Speaker 1: the release a lot. The rise of something you'd use
Speaker 1: in the morning kind of gives you a little uh
Speaker 1: mental clarity. UM focus, you know, kind of gives you
Speaker 1: some energy boost of energy. You use them all through
Speaker 1: the fusers. Mike a warm bath if you ever bath up,
Speaker 1: I'm a big bath. How did you put a few drops?
Speaker 1: And our protectives for immunity boost with UM so the
Speaker 1: the blends that are already in there. And so if
Speaker 1: you if you call which one I put on any well,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I don't think your baby gets headaches,
Speaker 1: and maybe not that. I think the protect would probably
Speaker 1: something I would put on because it helps boost their immunity.
Speaker 1: You can put the UM release on there for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: why do you have anxiety? Why don't I have anxiety
Speaker 1: and put it on you? When you put it on
Speaker 1: a baby, put on the bottom of your feet, they're temple.
Speaker 1: That's one of the many locations. It's diluted. It's diluted
Speaker 1: the roll on UM so are it's safe. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to be extract cautious, UM sample it
Speaker 1: and if they don't have any type of reaction. But
Speaker 1: what differs you, guys from all the other essential oils, Well,
Speaker 1: the biggest ones. We are U s D Organic certified,
Speaker 1: which in the essential oil space is unique. We're not
Speaker 1: the only ones, but we're one of the few. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of companies will call themselves add percent pure. Uh,
Speaker 1: some kindanies will call themselves therapeutic grade. That's it. If
Speaker 1: you google it, it's made up designation that's not recognized
Speaker 1: by any official third party in the U s D.
Speaker 1: A UM has qualified our oils is organic because of
Speaker 1: the farms that we source for oils from and they
Speaker 1: have no contamination or wrote off or adulter ins or
Speaker 1: fragrances or alcohol that we put in them. So an
Speaker 1: you really think it's helped your anxiety? Yeah? Absolutely? Is
Speaker 1: it just in your head? No, it's absolutely not your
Speaker 1: head when it comes to essential oils. It's listen, it's
Speaker 1: it's something. It's one thing I used to help with
Speaker 1: my overall mental emotional and physical well being. Exercising also
Speaker 1: helps my anxiety. Eating right also helps with anxiety. Staying
Speaker 1: off my phone, it's one thing that helps me. Um
Speaker 1: the center Blend. It helps me with my headaches sometimes.
Speaker 1: Have I ever still taken an idear hero thin because
Speaker 1: my head is so bad? Sure? But this has allowed
Speaker 1: me to take less medication for anxiety or head aches. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't get sick very often, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of using it to boost my immune system and so um.
Speaker 1: Also just keep in mind too forgetting about that. When
Speaker 1: you are talking about essential oils. Do you use candles? Jenna? Probably?
Speaker 1: You know? Do you want to know goes into the candle?
Speaker 1: What toxins lead, paraffins, egens like uh, I can't even
Speaker 1: pronounce some of them. They're terrible. Canary and coal mine?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that story? I know, canarian a,
Speaker 1: cole mine, West Virginia coal miner. Are the candles all
Speaker 1: bad though? Pretty much? Well? I mean candle, you're still
Speaker 1: burning it? I mean you can There are really yes,
Speaker 1: there are some kind of are really or yes, aesthetically
Speaker 1: they're great, sure, but those are like a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollar candles. But most candles you're spending bucks on
Speaker 1: have in they're colored their chemicals, and you're setting it
Speaker 1: on fire and you're breathing it. How much of those
Speaker 1: malone candles? I don't even know how much do they cost?
Speaker 1: If if they're if they got bad stuff in them,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna really do an uproar because those are expensive. Candle?
Speaker 1: How much like bucks? A candle? A candle? And now
Speaker 1: how long if you burn it nonstoff? How long will last?
Speaker 1: A couple of days? Couple days? Well, an essential oil
Speaker 1: blend is around fifty bucks? And so how much is
Speaker 1: this set that eighty eight dollars? And then all right,
Speaker 1: now are blends are forty dollars? They're usually fifty six?
Speaker 1: But there right now? Okay? And then where do the
Speaker 1: listeners go? Dot com and follow Instagram? In natural habits?
Speaker 1: But yes, carry in a coal mine. Uh. Coal miners
Speaker 1: would carry canaries into a coal mine to make sure
Speaker 1: that the air was safe because birds in general have
Speaker 1: sensitive respiratory systems, and if you put a bird heard
Speaker 1: specifically canary, next to a candle, they'll have you tested. This. No,
Speaker 1: it's just like a feeder. It's just a fact. My
Speaker 1: point is is this for all the people who are
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Speaker 1: so we have another fun guest, and this is going
Speaker 1: to be interesting just because we've had many discussions and
Speaker 1: arguments around finances, which I think every couple does. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that's one of the major stresses in life.
Speaker 1: Mm hm. I mean we even had an argument this
Speaker 1: morning about about the tension around the money issues because
Speaker 1: we were playing Alexa and Jolie wanted to watch TV,
Speaker 1: but it was like, you need to subscribe to whatever
Speaker 1: and Michael goes, sorry, Jolie, we can't afford that, and
Speaker 1: then I said, yeah, because Daddy spends our money, like
Speaker 1: I was saying it in a joking way, and he
Speaker 1: got you, what's so upset about. It's been a sense
Speaker 1: of thing recently because our whole situation with although iPad
Speaker 1: game and all that dumb stuff. So it was just
Speaker 1: it felt like a jab in the moment. I was like,
Speaker 1: are we over this? Because I'm not really receiving this
Speaker 1: as a joke, even though that was your intention, right,
Speaker 1: But I didn't know because we really haven't completely settled
Speaker 1: it as all right, this is we're done with this.
Speaker 1: It's in the past. There's no animosity. Let's move on. Well,
Speaker 1: now we gets talked to a financial expert. His name
Speaker 1: is David bach Um. He has nine New York Times
Speaker 1: best sellers. That's pretty Yeah, that's impressive. Oh, this is interesting.
Speaker 1: So basically, the latte factor explains how the money we
Speaker 1: waste on frivolous things. So the Hulu subscription you never watch, um,
Speaker 1: the latte that has become the habit and isn't even enjoyed,
Speaker 1: so the bottle water and so on that you don't
Speaker 1: even um. Basically, all those things that you can save
Speaker 1: on can make you rich. So, for example, if we
Speaker 1: don't have certain subscriptions that we don't use, but who
Speaker 1: may think we use And that's a great, a great question.
Speaker 1: I have a great question around that. But also I
Speaker 1: have something to say. I was thinking this the other day.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on when we get to the
Speaker 1: Nashville house. I would really like to cut out plastic
Speaker 1: water bottles, so we like I buy a case of water.
Speaker 1: You go through it in like two days because you
Speaker 1: drink so much water. I do drink a lot of water.
Speaker 1: Here's my problem. You can even tell the difference between
Speaker 1: Arrowhead and Essentia. You can tell. The people will say
Speaker 1: you can't taste the difference. I promise you when you
Speaker 1: drink a water, we'll get the best filter money can buy.
Speaker 1: If we can get the filter that goes through the house,
Speaker 1: then yes, refrigerator has a filter. No, but those are
Speaker 1: not good filters. What's a good filter? What is it?
Speaker 1: What is Essentials filter? What do they use? They? I
Speaker 1: saw the thing on YouTube. Let's reach out to Essentia.
Speaker 1: Let's hey give us your patent technology Instagram the other
Speaker 1: day just to try to get a free bottle. No
Speaker 1: luck yet, but I'm working on it. Um No, but
Speaker 1: I just there's a lot of things like lead in water.
Speaker 1: Right when you need do those tests. People can do
Speaker 1: the tests of what's in the water, and water can
Speaker 1: be very bad. And that's in order for it to
Speaker 1: be as much water for county to allow it to
Speaker 1: be drinking water, it has to pass certain tests and
Speaker 1: all of that. Okay, Flint that with Mike on this one.
Speaker 1: Tap water is just fine. I will say this. There
Speaker 1: are parts of the country where it's not so fine.
Speaker 1: But Nashville, I'm sure has fantastic tap water. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so up North Michigan we have the best freaking water ever.
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where my mom used to
Speaker 1: bring home jugs like milk carton jugs of water. But
Speaker 1: you can taste the difference between a britta and essential water.
Speaker 1: I promise you same amount. Michael. You even sat there
Speaker 1: and you go this taste like lake water when you
Speaker 1: were drinking, because I had just taken a sip of
Speaker 1: ascension and just taking a sip of a lake arrowhead
Speaker 1: local water. And what is the reasoning that you want
Speaker 1: to get rid of the bottles? Because? Is it because
Speaker 1: the waste or because because we're We're right, but we
Speaker 1: do go through a lot. And just from a cost standpoint,
Speaker 1: like we're like where we're about to where we're about
Speaker 1: to talk about with David back, is I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe that's something where we could cut cost because we
Speaker 1: buy so much because we drink so much water. All right,
Speaker 1: that's an idea. Okay, fine, I can cut that. That's
Speaker 1: huge for me though, you know, that's like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying we have to. I'm just saying it just it's
Speaker 1: a thought. She's setting you up. Now, she's saying that's huge.
Speaker 1: Now she's gonna go back for you to give something.
Speaker 1: It has I think you should not golf ever again. Um,
Speaker 1: excuse me. Can we just give me wife points? Because
Speaker 1: I was going through the checklist with you last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have the I have the best wife ever. Because
Speaker 1: I ripped out this page and like a recent Golf
Speaker 1: Digest top hundred public courses in the country for two twenty,
Speaker 1: and I told her, I was like, you know, this
Speaker 1: is kind of like my new bucket list. I want
Speaker 1: to be able to cross off every one of these courses.
Speaker 1: And she's like the only wife I would know that.
Speaker 1: Like last night, yesterday, we're in Vegas and I went
Speaker 1: and played Shadow Creek, which is probably the most beautiful
Speaker 1: course I played to date, more than Pebble, even though
Speaker 1: Pebble's number one on the list, And she was sitting
Speaker 1: there like next to me, crossing off she and she
Speaker 1: was like, you know later, you know, next month I
Speaker 1: have to go to organ. Maybe come to Organ. Here's
Speaker 1: something organ And like trying to logistically plant it out
Speaker 1: with me, and I looked at it like, you're like
Speaker 1: the coolest wife ever, because no other wife would do this.
Speaker 1: Every other wife would be like, why are you going
Speaker 1: to do that? You're gonna spend money, this and that.
Speaker 1: So if it's something that you enjoy and it's an
Speaker 1: outer circle, you know, behavior, Yeah, it is my number
Speaker 1: one thing for me. So I appreciate that, right, and
Speaker 1: so don't take away my water. Kid me by water
Speaker 1: water bottles. I mean, if you can get the essential
Speaker 1: filter mark, what do you do? Can you like Google
Speaker 1: like how to get the best filter? Because I water like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not. If you drink a vy On water, it
Speaker 1: tastes like lotion. And I promise you if we get
Speaker 1: an evy On bottle right now and you drink Von
Speaker 1: versus An, essentially you can taste. I would like to
Speaker 1: do a taste test with you guys on water, different
Speaker 1: bottled water. Next week. We'll do That'll do That'll get
Speaker 1: a million percent. Know Evon literally tastes like lotion. It
Speaker 1: is very curious if if your palette is that sensitive,
Speaker 1: you could tell the difference. Yes, you can, think you can.
Speaker 1: So you're could you do a hydro flask out of
Speaker 1: refrigerator and live on that. What does that mean? You know,
Speaker 1: the big hydro flasks, the big heavy things that everybody's
Speaker 1: carrying around right now, Tony's got a hot pink one. Well,
Speaker 1: I have a new line coming out and I'm creating
Speaker 1: my own technic. There you go. So that only drink
Speaker 1: the water out of the refrigerator, which is filter want
Speaker 1: to be digit water. I don't like. I don't like
Speaker 1: refrigerated water. I do drink only room tip because cold
Speaker 1: water is not good for your system. It's not she's
Speaker 1: been Okay, she's been trying to convince me of that
Speaker 1: since we started dating. Let me just google it right now,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you that it jump starts your
Speaker 1: system in the morning. It's not good for you. But
Speaker 1: it's not as cut and dried as that cold water
Speaker 1: is bad for you. It's not bad for you. Wait,
Speaker 1: it just says there's no evidence that drinking cold water,
Speaker 1: according to the Indian turned Well what I've been told. Okay,
Speaker 1: time out. Now she's going down the rabbit hole where
Speaker 1: she's gonna search, search until she finds what she wants
Speaker 1: to see. Drinking cold water does have its benefits. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I don't want to read that. Um, it's
Speaker 1: just not as simple as it's bad for you drinking.
Speaker 1: I will say to defend Janna with the whole water
Speaker 1: thing is there's two things that Jana splurges on, that's
Speaker 1: wine and water. So if she really puts up a fight,
Speaker 1: I can. I'll just do my part and me and
Speaker 1: the kids won't have, you know, water bottles and if
Speaker 1: the if the if you thank you, Mark, that's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy I am. No, I will say, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. We have a ton of water bottles
Speaker 1: and I need to stop with the essential. If we
Speaker 1: can find a filter that is good, and I know
Speaker 1: that's good for me because sometimes we forget to change
Speaker 1: the brittle filter. It's been it was like seven months
Speaker 1: and we just changed the brittle filter. That's another exaggeration,
Speaker 1: but anyways, but I'm just saying, if we can just
Speaker 1: make sure because I mean, even our refrigerator filter. I
Speaker 1: know we should stop talking about this because who cares,
Speaker 1: But like we don't change the filter, and then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I get I don't even like people drinking my water
Speaker 1: because I wanted to be clean because it grosses me out.
Speaker 1: She won't let me take a sip for a water Bottleney,
Speaker 1: Can I just have a SIPs? No, I'm like dying.
Speaker 1: I can be dying in the desert. Nope, I'm doing
Speaker 1: better now I'll let you know because now that Jolie
Speaker 1: does so. Anyways, So okay, water? What else could we
Speaker 1: cut out on for you? Bread? Tell our daughter that? No?
Speaker 1: I mean, what's what's what's spends? Want? We don't really
Speaker 1: do Starbucks? We don't really. I mean, what else? Smart?
Speaker 1: What is your TV situation? What subscriptions? Do you have
Speaker 1: all the subscriptions? We don't. We just have enough Flix
Speaker 1: all the movies now we don't, but we have all
Speaker 1: the movie channels. Oh so your cable bills? Pretty asterna
Speaker 1: cable bills because we cancel cable and that's saved its
Speaker 1: a good hundred bucks a month. Should we cancel cable?
Speaker 1: What do you do for sporting events? Who do Live? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm right this. Who do Live gives you your local channels.
Speaker 1: It sounds like we've just transitioned into a commercial But
Speaker 1: we have your local channels and live a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of cable channels. Live YouTube TV does the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's personal preference. I prefer Hulu Live because it's fewer
Speaker 1: commercials now and I'm very happy with it. And if
Speaker 1: you use code East dot com and you get nothing,
Speaker 1: get nothing, it will say invalid. Michael Haytes duk TV.
Speaker 1: I think we're getting what in Nashville table we can't have.
Speaker 1: We can't have satellite dishes hanging on our house in
Speaker 1: the New neighborhood. Are you getting You're getting Comcast Spectrum.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they do, but Spectrum has it
Speaker 1: now where you can just stream your cable through them
Speaker 1: and it's tons cheaper. You can pick your cable channels.
Speaker 1: You can do it all a cart that's p I
Speaker 1: like that because it's either with directs that you have
Speaker 1: to buy all the movie channels. Okay, so there's that.
Speaker 1: We don't spend much in that. We have all the
Speaker 1: channels from She watches like the local channels like seven
Speaker 1: ABC and all that stuff, and then I'll watch the
Speaker 1: ESPNS in Golf channel and then nothing in between like
Speaker 1: two D two until like five or anything like that.
Speaker 1: You're not watching the LRA network or so whol live.
Speaker 1: There you go. It's got your networks. All your shows
Speaker 1: are on demand without commercials. If you pay the extra
Speaker 1: five bucks of my for the code for this. ESPN
Speaker 1: and the Golf channel are on there, because that's my
Speaker 1: dad watches when he comes to visit, and it's streaming,
Speaker 1: and it's thirty five dollars a month, maybe forty with
Speaker 1: the ads fifteen bucks extra. You got HBO. What about
Speaker 1: Thunderstorms it's streaming. Oh, that's only satellites like direct TV.
Speaker 1: But is the NFL sendy tickets still exclusive? Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I think it is exclusive. I think it is.
Speaker 1: I just love how we go real deep, like last episodes,
Speaker 1: like super Deep, we're talking about like sex addiction. Now
Speaker 1: we're talking about Hulu Live subscription. This is going to
Speaker 1: touch more people than that, Probably more people A canna
Speaker 1: be stacking their heads, see honey. Yeah, Well it is
Speaker 1: a dilemma. Everybody's dealing with it right now. There's so
Speaker 1: many services and scribe. I don't want to know the
Speaker 1: best one to save us money for what we watch
Speaker 1: because we really don't watch that much TV. That's a
Speaker 1: good thing to sit down and figure out what you
Speaker 1: can come without. So TV that's good in the middle.
Speaker 1: One on demand we're really bad at We're terrible on demand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's bad. But at the same time, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't not anymore, not any more because the kids
Speaker 1: did I mean watching movies and on top of everything else,
Speaker 1: you're paying a month for TV. Yeah, that's a good spot.
Speaker 1: I mean we we. iPad games aren't no more because
Speaker 1: we basically you're non existent. They're not existent because I
Speaker 1: blocked the in app purchasing on Michael's iPad, so he
Speaker 1: now does not have he doesn't have your parenting code.
Speaker 1: But here's the deal. I gave him three don't worry.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make me feel like I'm a child. But
Speaker 1: could you do it without it? No? I gave you
Speaker 1: three choice. Still couldn't. She didn't tell me that it happened.
Speaker 1: You told me to, and then you said I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to. I said, you're right. So I was going
Speaker 1: along not buying anything. And then and then he went
Speaker 1: to go buy something. No, it accidentally like I was
Speaker 1: trying to click out or whatever and accidentally try to run,
Speaker 1: you know, because dumb print, even if you try to
Speaker 1: click out of it, it will reach your dumbrint try
Speaker 1: to purchase, and then it comes up and tries to
Speaker 1: purchase as in that purchases have been turned off this mother,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and for all the people that are just
Speaker 1: catching up and they're like, oh, you're so mean to
Speaker 1: your husband. If your husband spent over ten tho dollars
Speaker 1: and thousand dollars, the number increases every time. Well it's
Speaker 1: it's around six thousand. That's only for the few months
Speaker 1: that I've checked. So what game costs six thousand dollars? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get into a share because it's
Speaker 1: exactly thank you very much, be your wife be blocking that.
Speaker 1: And then I and then I brought the you know,
Speaker 1: the situation that was just one month. You know, if
Speaker 1: I was if I had if I was playing video
Speaker 1: games again, like regular console video games, this isn't part
Speaker 1: of that. You don't have to have in that purposes.
Speaker 1: You buy the game once and then that's it. And
Speaker 1: she was like oh really. I was like yeah, She's like,
Speaker 1: m maybe we can talk about I think that's a
Speaker 1: bad road to go down. I think video games are
Speaker 1: an addictive thing. Because I'm a victim of that. There
Speaker 1: are no video games in her house because I cannot
Speaker 1: stop once I start. Yeah, I definitely used to be
Speaker 1: that way. I think now it's like even Janna, like
Speaker 1: you know, she she would if we had a serious conversation,
Speaker 1: was like, honey, I really enjoy this. You know. I
Speaker 1: know in the past it was triggering because of our
Speaker 1: own issues. And just so people know, so this isn't
Speaker 1: just Jenna coming from a place of just authority or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I don't want people just to think you're
Speaker 1: coming down on me for no reason. In the past,
Speaker 1: I would always express to Janna like my only vice
Speaker 1: is video games, like I just want to play video games,
Speaker 1: when really I was doing other things behind her back,
Speaker 1: which were you know, the affairs and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So that felt like the curtain for my behavior. So
Speaker 1: Janna kind of correlates to two and so I empathize
Speaker 1: with that. So I understand why, which is why I
Speaker 1: took a hammer to his advices to my that's right,
Speaker 1: So I so I understand. So just so people know,
Speaker 1: I don't want people to get on you for no reason.
Speaker 1: So there's something behind that. That being said, if we
Speaker 1: want to have a real conversation, Janna would be willing
Speaker 1: probably to be like, Okay, we'll talk about it, but
Speaker 1: we don't have time. I don't have time yeah, I
Speaker 1: have no time. No. I mean maybe if we get
Speaker 1: on the better schedule with the baby, maybe when the
Speaker 1: kids get older, but I just want to golf. So anyway,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll talk to David back
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Speaker 1: So let's let's figure out where we can had some stuff. David,
Speaker 1: are you in the line? I am sorry about oh
Speaker 1: don't be sorry at all. Um, it's Jane and Mike.
Speaker 1: Hi David, how are you doing? Hi, guys, I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: We're really excited to talk to you because, like I
Speaker 1: think probably every married couple, we've definitely had our um
Speaker 1: financial arguments, um, which I'm sure obviously you are an
Speaker 1: expert too, and so that's why we're super pumped to
Speaker 1: talk to you because you are I feel like you're
Speaker 1: kind of like the guru for all things financial. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, you're welcome. Um, So the Latte Factor that's
Speaker 1: out now, right, Yeah, this book just came out last week. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We're so excited. It's really just
Speaker 1: like taken off. This is my thirteenth book. So it's
Speaker 1: been really fun because this is the first book I've done.
Speaker 1: It's a story, it's not a classic non fiction self
Speaker 1: help financial book. And people really reading the book like
Speaker 1: from you know, in one sitting, and it's having such
Speaker 1: a profound impact on them that they're already going out
Speaker 1: and buying four or five, six, nine copies and giving
Speaker 1: them out his gift to friends and kids for graduations. So, um,
Speaker 1: it's been an amazing way. That's awesome. Congratulations, that's so
Speaker 1: cool and what would what would you say as like
Speaker 1: the log line for the Ltte Factor the log line
Speaker 1: on that phrase before um, If I were to give
Speaker 1: you the the three minute story of The Latte Factor,
Speaker 1: it's it's a story about a young woman named Zoe
Speaker 1: Daniels who's the Millennials. She's twenty seven years old. She
Speaker 1: works in Brooklyn and she's been living in this She's
Speaker 1: been working in the city New York City now for
Speaker 1: six years and has her dream job and is actually
Speaker 1: making more money every year. But at the end of
Speaker 1: six years, she sort of looks up and realizes that
Speaker 1: she's still living paycheck to paycheck, that she still has
Speaker 1: student loans, and that she's not getting ahead. She's renting,
Speaker 1: and she's starting to question if all of the hard
Speaker 1: work that she is doing is ever going to lead
Speaker 1: to anything even remotely related to financial freedom, because she
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like she's living her dream life at all.
Speaker 1: And so she goes on a journey where she starts
Speaker 1: to think about where is her life going and she
Speaker 1: meets mentors, starting with a woman named Barbara in her
Speaker 1: office that began to teach her how she can basically
Speaker 1: be financially free and go for her dreams and ultimately
Speaker 1: be rich, and how it can be as simple as
Speaker 1: starting by saving five to ten dollars a day. And
Speaker 1: so she's taught this metaphor h called the Latte factor,
Speaker 1: which is a way to look at where are you
Speaker 1: spending money and then learn how to redirect that money
Speaker 1: to putting herself first. She learns how in this little
Speaker 1: short book, the Little Story, Little short of Story, she
Speaker 1: learns how to do what's called pay yourself first. And
Speaker 1: she's really taught that's critical at a young age to
Speaker 1: becomes financially selfish, to put herself first, and learns how
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, not through budgeting, because she learns,
Speaker 1: you know, budgeting doesn't work, and how to do it
Speaker 1: through automation, so the money that she's saving is saved automatically.
Speaker 1: And finally, like two learns you know, the two critical
Speaker 1: lessons of wealth, which is that she needs to also
Speaker 1: own real estate. She have to own real estate and
Speaker 1: you have to own stocks because those are the two
Speaker 1: primary escalators to wealth. And finally, by the end of
Speaker 1: the book, she really learns how to go for her
Speaker 1: dreams and learns that you know, money is a tool
Speaker 1: to three her to live her best life. And at
Speaker 1: any age you can start to go for your dreams.
Speaker 1: So that sounds awesome. I want to read act what David,
Speaker 1: What inspired you to do it in this format of
Speaker 1: more of a storytelling than you know, educational life, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of help? You know. The honest answer is that
Speaker 1: with seven million books out, I've had nine consecutive New
Speaker 1: York Times bestsellers on money and and that's incredible and
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for that. But but I've been frustrated.
Speaker 1: I've been frustrated realizing most people will never read a
Speaker 1: financial book. They may even buy them, but they won't
Speaker 1: always read them. And so I just started really over,
Speaker 1: you know, over ten years ago, asking myself a question
Speaker 1: which was, how could I package would people need to
Speaker 1: know into a really short story that anybody could read?
Speaker 1: You know, we even start like starting as a teenager.
Speaker 1: And so I my personally, my personal life, I've been
Speaker 1: very impacted by storybooks like Who Moved My Cheese one
Speaker 1: of most all time classic business books by Spencer Johnson.
Speaker 1: Um The Alchemist by Paula Quelo is another book that
Speaker 1: really had an impact on me. And so I started,
Speaker 1: you know, asking myself the question like, how could I
Speaker 1: take how could I create a story that would especially
Speaker 1: inspire young people to learn the lessons about money they
Speaker 1: should have been taught in school and they never were.
Speaker 1: And then anybody could get through in an hour to
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. And that's what's happening with this book. This book,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that was probably were the most
Speaker 1: exciting for me. I have a fifteen year old who
Speaker 1: has never read any of my other business books, but
Speaker 1: he read this book cover to cover and read it
Speaker 1: on a plane flight and he turned to me at
Speaker 1: the end of two hours and said, well, Dad, this
Speaker 1: book shows how you can become a millionaire starting at
Speaker 1: nineteen and I'm only fifteen. So if I do this,
Speaker 1: I could become a multi mulpen. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you're right, you could. He's like, well, then let's do this.
Speaker 1: Let's set up a retirement account for me. And so
Speaker 1: now fifteen, he wants to have a raw th ra A. Well,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get him to read any of the other books.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get in Blake. So I think stories have
Speaker 1: a profound ability to change people's lives. And it took
Speaker 1: me ten years to to go from an idea to fruition.
Speaker 1: That has to be extremely rewarding for your son too,
Speaker 1: for it to hit him like that and be that
Speaker 1: into it. You know what, I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 1: It's like the most rewarding thing I need that's ever
Speaker 1: happened to me in my career. And I have two sons.
Speaker 1: I have a fifteen year old and I have a
Speaker 1: nine year old. And the nine year old when he started,
Speaker 1: when he heard his older brother all excited it about
Speaker 1: this book, and I'll motivated. She turned around and said, well,
Speaker 1: I want to read it. So he's nine, he's halfway
Speaker 1: through the book. Happens to be I'm actually, I'm actually
Speaker 1: doing this with you, and I'm in my son's room
Speaker 1: right now. The book is by his bed. He's nine,
Speaker 1: he's read half of the book. He's told the teachers
Speaker 1: about it, and he already gets the fact at nine
Speaker 1: years old, that the lock factor is a metaphor that's
Speaker 1: not about giving up your coffees. Because he said to
Speaker 1: me the other day in the kitchen. You know, Dad,
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot factor. I don't drink coffee,
Speaker 1: he said, but I have a v buck factor Now
Speaker 1: for those who are listening who have no idea what
Speaker 1: a v buck factor is, that those are the digital
Speaker 1: coins you need to use in order to buy things
Speaker 1: inside video games Minecraft. And so he says to me,
Speaker 1: I have a v buck factor and then he goes, Wow, Dad,
Speaker 1: I wish I had all that money back that I
Speaker 1: wasted last year on v Bucks, because if I could
Speaker 1: put it into these investments, I could have a whole
Speaker 1: lot more money. Later, hear you on that because my
Speaker 1: husband spent so much money on those iPad games, and boy,
Speaker 1: I'm like you just you literally just peeped all that
Speaker 1: money away into the universe. And I'm like you, honestly,
Speaker 1: when we talked about it, I was like, you could
Speaker 1: have bought your motorcycle with all that money that you
Speaker 1: spent on your in app purchases. And it's just it
Speaker 1: makes it makes me sick because we have I think
Speaker 1: we have a very different um habit with I guess spending.
Speaker 1: And so it's hard at times because I'm like, that
Speaker 1: money could have gone to your motorcycle, or could have
Speaker 1: gone to this, or it could have been to our house,
Speaker 1: or could have gone to Julie's you know something. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's very It's like what
Speaker 1: do you do with that? How do you go to right?
Speaker 1: Like and go you in the in the Lawe Factor,
Speaker 1: what's happened? Like Joe Daniel, her dream is she wants
Speaker 1: to chance to travel. She's ironically she's a travel writer.
Speaker 1: She worked for travel magazine in the book, and she's
Speaker 1: never traveled. She doesn't even have a passport. And and
Speaker 1: as she's these mentors, they start to point out to her,
Speaker 1: like the amount of money that you've been spending you
Speaker 1: you know, if you just saved it for two or
Speaker 1: three or four months, you'd go in your first trip.
Speaker 1: And she also wants to be a photographer, but she's
Speaker 1: not taking pictures, and they and they start to say
Speaker 1: to her, like, with this amount of money that you're spending,
Speaker 1: you could start taking pictures, you could take you could
Speaker 1: go take a class on how to be a photographer.
Speaker 1: So a big part of the lessons, like when you're
Speaker 1: talking about, is most of us are not consciously thinking
Speaker 1: about how we spend our money. But the problem with
Speaker 1: that is everybody is consciously thinking about how to take
Speaker 1: our money. So like those video games that you play,
Speaker 1: they're designed to stuck money out of your pocket, right
Speaker 1: that that's that's what they're intended to do. Everything that
Speaker 1: we do on social media in between seeing our friends,
Speaker 1: is an ad designed to separate us from our hard
Speaker 1: earned dollars. And we live in a world today where
Speaker 1: we can just be on our phone and then five
Speaker 1: seconds later click on something and spend money. It's never
Speaker 1: been easier to spend mean unconsciously, and so the core
Speaker 1: message of the Latte factor is actually looking at what's
Speaker 1: most important to your values, your dreams, and then consciously
Speaker 1: spending money to get you closer to those things. So
Speaker 1: what do you do when like there is there is
Speaker 1: that difference in spending in a relationship, So like how
Speaker 1: do you Is it just you know, does someone have
Speaker 1: to bend obviously? Like what do you to to keep
Speaker 1: that money? Is it just where is the middle ground? Yeah? Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: by the way, I've been where you are. I've been
Speaker 1: in a position where I've fought about money with my wife,
Speaker 1: and years and years ago I wrote a book called
Speaker 1: Smart Couples, Finished Rich, where interviewed couples that didn't fight
Speaker 1: about money and became financially well off. And we're still
Speaker 1: married and still happy and still in love. And so
Speaker 1: here here's what couples of co are successful at dealing
Speaker 1: with what I would call the money compromised too. The
Speaker 1: first thing is you need to agree on a pay
Speaker 1: yourself first goal, a number you start with. You know
Speaker 1: someday you're gonna want to have money for the future,
Speaker 1: and you need to agree in order to do that,
Speaker 1: you have to pay yourself first. So what percentage of
Speaker 1: your income could the two of you agree to take
Speaker 1: off the top and pay yourself first? I would tell
Speaker 1: you it should be least ten percent of your gross income.
Speaker 1: But the two of you should talk about that, Like,
Speaker 1: let's agree on that so that that money is taken
Speaker 1: right off the top and put away into a retirement account.
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, let's agree that. Well, let
Speaker 1: me ask you a specific questions. You guys have children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have two kids. We have a five month old
Speaker 1: and a three and a half year old. Okay, so
Speaker 1: do I don't know, do you have an insurance policy
Speaker 1: to protect you in case one or both that you
Speaker 1: die right now? So that's done, so you're taken care of. Like,
Speaker 1: because there's all these questions that like couples need to
Speaker 1: think about, like is your family protecting Great, you've got
Speaker 1: the will, you've got the insurance, so that's good. So
Speaker 1: then it's like who else the size retirement? Could the
Speaker 1: two of you agree on that you want to save
Speaker 1: money for that you could both be excited about. Well
Speaker 1: Mike wants his motorcycle college for our kids. Well no,
Speaker 1: but he's saying like that's already set up, you know,
Speaker 1: like our retirement is insurance. Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, we
Speaker 1: do have that set up. Look at you guys, you're
Speaker 1: doing so much right, So we're good, honey, that's spend spence. No,
Speaker 1: but we did. I will say this though. I did
Speaker 1: send an email to our business manager, which is very
Speaker 1: huge because I have a very hard time talking about money.
Speaker 1: It makes me very uncomfortable. Um, but I I I said,
Speaker 1: I set a meeting for when we're back in Nashville
Speaker 1: because we're moving to Nashville, you know, and hopes to
Speaker 1: save money and you know, from not in l A
Speaker 1: and basically where it's like, Okay, how much are we
Speaker 1: spending a month and where can we not overspending the months?
Speaker 1: So it's like, so we're not spending crazy amounts of
Speaker 1: money and we're able to try to save and then
Speaker 1: put into those investments, you know, portfolios that we have. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that's like kind of what you're saying about
Speaker 1: figuring out like what's kind of left and how to
Speaker 1: like pay each other out. Yeah, And I mean you see,
Speaker 1: you have a business manager, so they should be tracking
Speaker 1: where your money goes. But another thing the two of
Speaker 1: you can do is you can also like put an
Speaker 1: app on your phone that will prap where the money
Speaker 1: is going, so like mint dot com or clarity money
Speaker 1: dot com tracking where the money goes. It is a
Speaker 1: really useful thing to do, especially when you're a couple.
Speaker 1: You can kind of get the end of the week
Speaker 1: and go, you know, where the money really go. Once
Speaker 1: you see where the money is going, you can start
Speaker 1: to really think through like do we need all these things?
Speaker 1: Are there some things that we could change that we're doing? Um?
Speaker 1: Because I think the most important thing as a couple
Speaker 1: just to work as a team and don't let the
Speaker 1: money fight fester, Like the moneys fight usually are over stuff.
Speaker 1: And I always start to get couples to focus on
Speaker 1: the bigger picture, which are your values and your dreams,
Speaker 1: your goal Like a smart a couple of finish churches.
Speaker 1: Basically you can read. Honestly, you can just take that
Speaker 1: book and read it and you can sit down with
Speaker 1: the financial plan or do it yourself. Write down all
Speaker 1: your goals, write down all your values, and work on
Speaker 1: it as a team. But the kids that you want
Speaker 1: to work at it as a team, because you don't,
Speaker 1: the fights will continue. How do you determine, David, whether
Speaker 1: it's whether you're a married couple or an individual. You know,
Speaker 1: you talk about um focusing and prioritizing and things that
Speaker 1: are important for you in your life and your well being,
Speaker 1: but how do you you know, I feel like people
Speaker 1: I know myself just from my personal experience. You people
Speaker 1: can find a way to rationalize or justify something to themselves.
Speaker 1: Would have come to purchase. Okay, yeah I should give
Speaker 1: up my coffee, but I really need my coffee or
Speaker 1: I really like my coffee. Like, how do you determine
Speaker 1: really the hierarchy of of what's important and what you
Speaker 1: can cut on? It's such a good question. Um, here's
Speaker 1: the thing that's so hard for for some people, not everybody,
Speaker 1: but for some people. Ball it's to imagine your life
Speaker 1: twenty and thirty years from now. And the amazing thing
Speaker 1: about money is that well that not even money. Time
Speaker 1: you blink your eyes and you're twenty years older, right,
Speaker 1: Like I remember being in my twenties and we had
Speaker 1: you know, I was I was a brand new financial
Speaker 1: advisor and I was in training and we had a
Speaker 1: sixty one year old financial visor was getting ready to retire,
Speaker 1: come and speak to my training class. And he showed
Speaker 1: us his chart. It's absolutely the back of the book.
Speaker 1: It's the first chart in the back of the book,
Speaker 1: which is about the Camp Miracle compound interest in starting early.
Speaker 1: And he said who in his rooms twenty six and
Speaker 1: a bunch of us raised her hand. He said, you'll
Speaker 1: just say five dollars and forty one a day, you
Speaker 1: can have nearly a million dollars by the time were
Speaker 1: sixty five, just two thousand dollars a year, and I
Speaker 1: are a county ay six. And he said, to you, guys,
Speaker 1: how many of you going out for a drink after
Speaker 1: work tonight? And so we all laughed and we all
Speaker 1: raised our hand because that's the first thing you do
Speaker 1: after a training class. And he goes, just have one
Speaker 1: less drink tonight, because because more than five dollars to
Speaker 1: have a drink in Manhattan. But he's like, just have
Speaker 1: more less drink and then go back to the office
Speaker 1: and funds your retirement account. He goes, because I'm sixty
Speaker 1: one and I'm retiring a multiloying her. I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm done. But I can tell you this, most of
Speaker 1: the guys in your office right now, when you go
Speaker 1: back to your office and their fifties, they're still broke
Speaker 1: and their financial advisors, which he goes, is pathetic, but
Speaker 1: he goes because most financial visors don't do for themselves
Speaker 1: when they do what they do for their clients. And
Speaker 1: he said, so all I can tell you is at
Speaker 1: whatever age you are in this room right now, you're yourself.
Speaker 1: Ten years from now, he's gonna thank you for having
Speaker 1: made a few changes to save more money. And they said,
Speaker 1: in yourself in twenty years and thirty years, is really
Speaker 1: gonna thank you, because he says, you don't know it
Speaker 1: right now, but you're gonna get tired as you get older.
Speaker 1: You're not going to have the same energy and the
Speaker 1: same hunger and the same as typically and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be really happy to turn around your fifties and your
Speaker 1: fifties and have a bunch of money and some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that you're gonna need to give up to
Speaker 1: get there. It's just not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: And that got me, That got me to start investing.
Speaker 1: I just did an interview right before you with People
Speaker 1: magazine and the one woman interviewed me fifty nine, and
Speaker 1: she was reading this book and she said, you know,
Speaker 1: I love the book. I'm I'm super emotional right now.
Speaker 1: She's like, I just wish I had seen what was
Speaker 1: in the Latte Doctor when I was younger, because it
Speaker 1: seems like it's too late for me now. And I go,
Speaker 1: but it's not too late for you, fifty nine. Not
Speaker 1: too late, But you have to get started today. Like
Speaker 1: you can't spend time worrying about money. You have to
Speaker 1: go to work on your money. And then you have
Speaker 1: to get your money to work for you. And what
Speaker 1: do you mean when you say that, Well, so most
Speaker 1: people have a whole lot of money to have money
Speaker 1: to have in the bank account, right and a bank
Speaker 1: account earns nothing, maybe earns one percent, So money doesn't
Speaker 1: grow at one percent. Take seventy two years for your
Speaker 1: money to double. At one percent, you'll be dead by then,
Speaker 1: so money has to grow at a rate that's five
Speaker 1: percent or higher. And in the lot you've got your book,
Speaker 1: you know, the mentors go through the different ways to
Speaker 1: make a higher rate of return, talking about from bonds
Speaker 1: to stocks and the first five portfolios. And like I
Speaker 1: was just talking to somebody else who was on the
Speaker 1: phone with me, and they were like, how can you
Speaker 1: make ten percent way to return? I'm like, last had
Speaker 1: the SMP five hundred. The stock market is done for
Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. If you if you just
Speaker 1: went to van Guard and looked up the SMP five
Speaker 1: hundred funds, that's an index fund, you'd see that since
Speaker 1: inception the fund is earned ten percent annually. Now there
Speaker 1: have been years it's done better and there's years it's
Speaker 1: not worth but ten percent rate to return your money
Speaker 1: doubles every seven years. And if you don't want to
Speaker 1: take the risk of being all on the stock market,
Speaker 1: you can have a boring, diversified portfolio and those of
Speaker 1: average So you've got to get your money to earn money.
Speaker 1: And what when people go, I don't how do how
Speaker 1: does compound interests really work? What happens over time? Like
Speaker 1: in a couple of decades. Is that your money just
Speaker 1: starts making you a whole lot of money. It makes
Speaker 1: it while you sleep. This is why when people go,
Speaker 1: you know, the rich get richer. The rich get richer
Speaker 1: because their money is making them money. The poor stay
Speaker 1: poor because what money they have is not doing anything
Speaker 1: at all. It's making somebody else rich. Right Like if
Speaker 1: you have a money in a bank account, it zero.
Speaker 1: It's making the people who own the bank rich. So
Speaker 1: you just have to do on that. You have to
Speaker 1: get in the game of building wealth with your money
Speaker 1: versus just having your money sit there. Absolutely, and if
Speaker 1: there before we wrap up with you, David, that's such
Speaker 1: amazing stuff and I hope the listeners take all that
Speaker 1: to heart. What are three areas just off the top
Speaker 1: of that, just real quick that you know that you
Speaker 1: could cut our listeners like where they should cut? You
Speaker 1: know where they're Jim coffee, cable subscription, whatever it is, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the top three that you've seen people will be
Speaker 1: able to cut? Okay, the fastest thing you can do
Speaker 1: to cut your overhead is I would download an app
Speaker 1: like Clarity Money and take a look at what have
Speaker 1: you signed up for? Because what Clarity Money will do.
Speaker 1: This is a financial app is it will show you
Speaker 1: what you signed up for that our subscription fees, anybody
Speaker 1: that you're paying monthly, will summarize it. If you don't
Speaker 1: want to download a new app, go through all your
Speaker 1: credit card bills, go through your checking account, and look
Speaker 1: at what have you signed up to pay for monthly?
Speaker 1: Because today we have we're paying everybody else besides yourself automatically,
Speaker 1: so like it could be gym membership, it could be
Speaker 1: Apple storage, it could be Netflix, it could be you're
Speaker 1: having a box of goodies sent to you. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is, but going through those six expenses
Speaker 1: and going what could have change? Because when you change
Speaker 1: a fixed expense that's fifty a month a year, and
Speaker 1: that's six thousand dollars over a decade. You do two
Speaker 1: or three of those and you've just found enough money
Speaker 1: to start seriously saving and investing. So I look at
Speaker 1: the six expensive number one, number two, I look at
Speaker 1: what is your latte factor. I would go and track
Speaker 1: where your money goes for for just two days two days,
Speaker 1: carry pad of paper, spend money like you always do,
Speaker 1: write it down and then and then added up like
Speaker 1: people have done this and they're like, you know, I
Speaker 1: really do spend fifteen dollars a day at Starbucks. And
Speaker 1: then the question I go, will well quaint? So there's
Speaker 1: two choices you could make the coffee. You can don't
Speaker 1: buy Starbucks coffee, right like, you could make it at
Speaker 1: home for twenty cents. Or if you're not going to
Speaker 1: give it up, then you should start to look seriously
Speaker 1: at investing in the company where you're where you refuse
Speaker 1: to stop spending money, right like, if you have an
Speaker 1: issue where you use Uber a lot, Uber just want public,
Speaker 1: you could own that. You could own Uber, right like
Speaker 1: investing what you won't give up. And the third thing
Speaker 1: I would say is look at a big find a
Speaker 1: big expensive you could change, So biggest expense that people
Speaker 1: can change, and were most people are not conscious of this,
Speaker 1: but it's car expensive. So the average Americans car expense
Speaker 1: for a new car right now is five three dollars
Speaker 1: a month, and that doesn't include insurance, doesn't include gas.
Speaker 1: If you've got storage, it doesn't include storage. So what
Speaker 1: I've seen is that many people are spending two to
Speaker 1: three months a year paying for their car. And one
Speaker 1: of the fastests you can do to cut your overhead.
Speaker 1: If your two car families go down to one car.
Speaker 1: If you're a three car family, for sure, get down
Speaker 1: with two cars and figure out if you can get
Speaker 1: your car overhead down, because the car overhead is almost
Speaker 1: like an expense that we take for granted. We just
Speaker 1: assume we have to have a car, and we have
Speaker 1: to have a certain sort of a certain amount of
Speaker 1: money that always goes towards a car, and we don't
Speaker 1: really think about the overall financial ramifications. And today there
Speaker 1: are a lot of ways to get around without owning
Speaker 1: a car. And if you can cut out one car expense,
Speaker 1: that can be the extra time. It's a lot of money,
Speaker 1: be enough money to help you retire ten years sooner,
Speaker 1: if you gave up one car in a family, or
Speaker 1: you went from an expensive car to a chupercar. I
Speaker 1: love that. Um, that's some really good advice. I'm super
Speaker 1: pumped about that. And we're gonna I'm gonna go home
Speaker 1: right now. I'm like making my list and being quiet
Speaker 1: over here making my list of what. Um, but seriously,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, David, and we're um, we would uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read all your books now because you've got
Speaker 1: would you say thirteen. Yeah, but it starts to start
Speaker 1: with a Latta Factor and your for your listeners, come
Speaker 1: check out the website at the Latte factor dot com. Um.
Speaker 1: We've got a special big bonus gift thing going on
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Speaker 1: is the primary website where all the books are listed
Speaker 1: and you can get our friend news letter there David
Speaker 1: Bok dot com. Awesome. Thank you so much, David, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. You guys are so welcome. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on UM. That's really good advice. Money.
Speaker 1: Just want to talk about money, literally literally just irks me.
Speaker 1: I know it does super good, just because I don't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to spend a penny if I if
Speaker 1: I didn't have to, I just want to save it all.
Speaker 1: I think we balanced each other out though, because you
Speaker 1: got like you get so much anxiety at around it
Speaker 1: where you would never do anything for yourself, and so
Speaker 1: you have someone who is a little bit more loss.
Speaker 1: I fear, which to a fault of mine, I am.
Speaker 1: I tend to be that way. Um, you know, I'm I.
Speaker 1: I think I offer you opportunities to to take care
Speaker 1: of yourself or to do something for yourself that you deserve.
Speaker 1: I try to mean you force me like you just
Speaker 1: force me to buy, because otherwise, you know, won't you won't.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take an email mark what you got
Speaker 1: for me. But thank you very much. Jess says, due
Speaker 1: to blood pressure issues and being high risk, I'm having
Speaker 1: a C section next week at thirty nine weeks, and
Speaker 1: it was not in my plan. I desperately wanted a
Speaker 1: v back, which I learned is a vaginal birth after
Speaker 1: c section. Not until I became a father. I had
Speaker 1: an emergency c section eight years ago, and it was
Speaker 1: very traumatic. I had a panic attack while I was
Speaker 1: on the operating table and was screaming and asking if
Speaker 1: he my baby was going to die. I was restrained,
Speaker 1: had a spinal tap, couldn't feel my legs. I'm a
Speaker 1: sexual abuse survivor, and I'm so anxious and so scared.
Speaker 1: I don't want to feel that way ever again, especially
Speaker 1: when I'm bringing my baby into the world. By the way,
Speaker 1: my son was able to heal and as a healthy,
Speaker 1: growing little man. I'm an avid podcast listener, and I
Speaker 1: know that you opted to have your C section, and
Speaker 1: I admire your bravery so much. I'm just hoping you
Speaker 1: could share anything with me that will help me feel better.
Speaker 1: Oh geez. I mean, first of all, I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: you have all those triggers. I look. I if you
Speaker 1: listen to the episode where I had Jason, I freaked out.
Speaker 1: I had a panic attack. I passed out. They gave
Speaker 1: me have to like to chill um. I was terrified.
Speaker 1: I think it's normal, it's okay. The amount of women
Speaker 1: I felt so stupid after that episode aired because I
Speaker 1: was embarrassed. But so many women have a hard C
Speaker 1: section and they freak out. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like it's traumatic, but just try to relax.
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to say when you can't feel
Speaker 1: your legs, because I was freaking out and I probably
Speaker 1: couldn't relax if we had a third baby. So I
Speaker 1: just know that you're gonna be okay. It's such a
Speaker 1: routine surgery and you will be okay. And put some
Speaker 1: good music on. That's my advice. I mean, There's not
Speaker 1: more I could say other than that. I mean, hope
Speaker 1: that helps. I mean, yeah, she's not alone. Yes, you're
Speaker 1: not alone. Yeah, you're not alone. I'm gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: and the baby is going to be You. Guys will
Speaker 1: be okay, I promise, And doctors have done this thousand
Speaker 1: times over, so you will be okay, and we'll be
Speaker 1: praying for you. And A says, I'm twenty five and
Speaker 1: I've never kissed someone. I'm totally disinterested in online dating,
Speaker 1: and every time I made a new boy, my brain
Speaker 1: screams run. However, I do you have a cross on
Speaker 1: her friend? And I'd like to see if we could
Speaker 1: be something. He knows me extremely well, but I can't
Speaker 1: bring myself to even talk to him but anything of substance.
Speaker 1: It's all small talk and laughing. He's just as shy
Speaker 1: as me. It's like we're in a shy standoff. I
Speaker 1: can feel a connection, but neither of us are willing
Speaker 1: to do anything about it. So, guys, what the heck
Speaker 1: do I do? Stay single forever? Hashtag one year old virgin.
Speaker 1: It's okay, just just go up and randomly kiss somebody.
Speaker 1: Ask your friend, just be okay? Do you think you
Speaker 1: and I could ever be more than what we are.
Speaker 1: I just say, make out with him, do it, Run
Speaker 1: up and kiss him. Take a leap. Take the leap.
Speaker 1: I won't jump off the bridge. Don't be scared of
Speaker 1: the conversation. Yeah, you guys aren't gonna lose your friendship
Speaker 1: by having that conversation. Can I suggest something press I
Speaker 1: feel you're both so shy. I'm getting an idea that
Speaker 1: maybe you two have similar interests and if that's the case,
Speaker 1: maybe you buy two movie ticket to something. And then
Speaker 1: you pull a thing like, oh my gosh, my friend
Speaker 1: just totally bailed on me and I got the actor ticket.
Speaker 1: Would you want to go? Because then it's like no pressure,
Speaker 1: it's no big deal. It seems spontaneous. And then you
Speaker 1: get the idea if he's interested, if he says no,
Speaker 1: maybe he's really really shy, but it could be kind
Speaker 1: of a spontaneous, organic way of doing something together. I
Speaker 1: love that. It's like the best idea ever. And then
Speaker 1: you just like slide your hand over like, oh sorry,
Speaker 1: I love you guys,