1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio jodcast. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Oh and Michael Causin, all right, got to change. That's 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: the guitar and I hear things. Do you want to 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: give it a run? It's good. Every time I'm on 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: a podcast, I listen to the opening songs. I want 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: to like get notes. Um, I like it. For those 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: of you that don't know that voice, this is Nick Vale. 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: What's up? Nick? How are you good? How are you? 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: I'm really delightful. Thank you for asking how you are. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: That's good. Um. So for those of our wind Down 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: listeners that don't know you, let me just give them 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: a little rundown. Nick was on The Bachelor Bachelorte Bachelor 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: in Paradise. You first started Andy dorphan season where you 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: receive the first impression roads five years ago. Five years ago, 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: so if you're like forever kind of confessed his love 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: for her as one of the final two bachelors, Oh Dune, 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Dune Dune. She chose someone else and then he popped 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: onto Caitlin Bristow's season. It was more or less invited 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: and final growth thereon, she chose Sean ca Dm. She 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: did every everyone knows this okay, and then you want 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: to bachelor on Paradise, But then you had your own 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor, which, by the way, when that 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: choice came up, because you were kind of like hated 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. Not then, No, because I was when 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: you were a bachelor. No, when I was on That's 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: why I was the Bachelor because of Paradise, because that 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: was oh quite quite much. Yeah. Um, I mean, accord, 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: we all know Janna hated me. I guess no, no, no no, no, 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: it was just an interesting choice because you had already 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: had two shots, three shots apparently. Um, he had staying power. 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: I know, but like both three girls. Well you turned 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: down the one girl? But then did you turn it 33 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: down because you knew you wanted to be the bachelor? No? No, 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: you just didn't feel the love I did. Not do 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: people eat Paradise Actually in relationships, yeah, Jade and Tayner 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: arguably has a better track record than the Bachelor or Bachelorette. Um, 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: can I just ask you a question? Sure, so I 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: know both? No, because I know I'm friends with the 39 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Andy I was would say I know that I'm friends 40 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: with Andy. Oh well no, I mean I'm friends with 41 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Andy and how close? Um? Why doesn't matter. I mean 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: we're not like besties, but we chat whatever. I'm in 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: New York. We'll have a drink, We'll get a glass 44 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: of wine. She's a really nice girl. I like her. 45 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: I was friends with Caitlin. Well, not that I'm not 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: what happened? Oh whose podcast is this? Because I'm the 47 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: one asking the question. Son Um, I mean we're fine now, 48 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: but we have a little bit of a falling out. 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we're I mean we're we're fine now. 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: But I also know Vanessa because obviously she's on my 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: heart radio. So all his women have like really strong personalities. 52 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: They do super super super strong. It's exhausting. But then 53 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: why do you continue to pick the same women. It's 54 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: a great question, that's my question. Excellent question. You. Uh, 55 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: couple of things. Okay, mommy issues. No, my mom is 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: truly a saint. Uh. Interestingly enough, my mom is exactly 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: the opposite of those women. Those women I have, in 58 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: fairness to those women, always been attracted to very strong personalities. Uh. 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: And my defense is relates to those three women. Those 60 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: were obviously, as the show goes, unique circumstances. I didn't 61 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: select Andy when she was the patch slor At I 62 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: showed up but not new Caitlin was a unique situation 63 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: where we didn't know each other and I actually specifically 64 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: came for the girl. Uh. And then as when I 65 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: was the Bachelor, do you guys think you would have 66 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: really made it work? Though? Yeah? Yeah, made she made 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: the right choice. Um yeah, And then and you know, 68 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: I also didn't pick the thirty women that came out 69 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: of Lima when I was the Bachelor. You didn't have 70 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: one say no, now, you didn't get to look at 71 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: any of the girls or something. I would have cast 72 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: it Liz who affects with at a wedding. And then 73 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: we didn't talk. And then I was like, hey, come on, 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. That was weird. It was a 75 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: weird one. Um, did you not watch Paradise? No, I 76 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: don't watch Paradise. I just watched the beginning to miss 77 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: on your part. Also, it's like my best work franchise, 78 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: So no, I did. I did not watch Paradise at 79 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: all anyways. Um, but Vanessa was sweet. She was you know, 80 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: she helped kids, she was but very strong personality. Again 81 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: because I exp we just hung out a nappa, but 82 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: so sweet her her first impression and yeah, strong, beautiful, 83 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: great is the room. She's an absolute pro at the 84 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: first impression. What's the second impression? Just like I'm just 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: saying her first impression, it's fantastic, right, But we go 86 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: deep on the show, we go real deep. We talk 87 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: about you know all of it. Um, I don't know 88 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: share our first impression is great, It's really great. I 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: was gonna say, I think strong personalities, strong real personalities 90 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: tend to get attracted to strong women. Personalities do sometimes 91 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: sometimes not. I have sometimes find it is it will 92 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: be opposite to try. I think. When it does, though, 93 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: it can be great because at the same time, if 94 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: someone who has a strong personality get someone who's submissive 95 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: all the time, that's not a challenge. That's not fun. 96 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: You and I, I mean you and I have to 97 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: have someone that challenges each other otherwise we walk all 98 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: over them. I don't know you that well, but I 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: don't know Mike at all. But do you guys have 100 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: strong personalities? Yeah? Very strong, And I mean they were 101 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: sweetest of guys, Like, I mean, I could name them. 102 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: They're they were so sweet. But it's like I will 103 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: literally walk fall and I did want anything. I can 104 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: do for you right whatever you whatever you want, hey, 105 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: um or listen. I have found to Mike's point, Um, listen, 106 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: I haven't figured it out yet in terms of my 107 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: my match. Yeah, I know my skin. Uh, I'm just kidding, 108 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: but I listen that what I've learned in life is 109 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: that sometimes, um, someone with a strong personality. I like confidence. 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm attracted confidence. I think most people are, and I 111 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: think sometimes it's easy to mistaken people with strong personality 112 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: is confident people. Sometimes people who are who have strong 113 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: personalities and project what seems be confidence over time reveals 114 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: itself to be a lot of insecurities, and sometimes that 115 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: big personality will project project their insecurities and another person 116 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: who is also confident. Because if you are, uh, if 117 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: you're position yourself and present yourself as a confident person 118 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: and then get yourself in a situation where you feel 119 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: threatened or feel intimidated, and whether it's a friendship or 120 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: work situation or a relationship, sometimes that can come out. 121 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: I have found in relationships with women I have dated 122 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: that again, I'm sure I'm doing things, and there a 123 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: lot of things I can work on as a as 124 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: a partner, but I find that I bring out some 125 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: of those insecurities because I've always been a confident person 126 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: and it becomes contentious and it doesn't. It's not a 127 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: relationship where you're bringing each other up a brother bringing 128 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: each other down. Yeah, what is your fault? You think 129 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: in relationships? Like where do you think that you could? Like? 130 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: What's the one thing that you know that you have 131 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: to work on? M that you like? For me, Like, 132 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: I know I'm super passive in a relationship. I need 133 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to learn how to not be as passive. I'm not. 134 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: I can some I need to well in life, I 135 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: need to listen better. I also will play devil's advocate 136 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: a little too much in a relationship. Um, And what 137 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: I've learned, I mean, I'll you know, I've learned this 138 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: from female friends and all friends that like sometimes especially 139 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: maybe let me know, Jenna, But if a woman is 140 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: expressing her frustration about any situation, sometimes she doesn't want 141 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: a solution. She just wants to set the up and 142 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: let her vent. And I can sometimes struggle with that 143 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: because I'm a solution based guy. It's like, all right, 144 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: let's break it down, all right, Like you know, like 145 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: this is a math equation and one plus one plus one, 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: he goes four for three or whatever. I don't know. 147 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: I ter carry the two and here's here's how you 148 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: do it. And she's like, just go, but I don't 149 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: want to yell. Yeah, and so I can. I can 150 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: be better at that? Interesting, I mean most men probably. 151 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not a rare bird in that, but 152 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: not at all. But I really I could really work 153 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: on it. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I could really. I mean, 154 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: you want to settle down very much, so sometimes my 155 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: actions don't reflect my desires. But do you have any interest, 156 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: like in dating anyone that's not a social stature? Like 157 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: do you consider anybody and everybody? It all just kind 158 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: of depends on Yeah. Really that it's a really opened 159 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: the flawed gates. I'm really open to anything at this point. 160 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: What about Tanya? What about Tanya? She's a sweet girl. 161 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, you're always trying to pimp out Tanya. 162 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: I love her, She's great. I don't know if we 163 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: would really, I think we're better friends. Yeah, So, like, 164 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: would you want confident? But then I feel like you 165 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: also want submissive. It's very confusing. I think you're a 166 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: very confusing bird. Like I can't I can't read you, 167 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: because I think that's what the draw is. I think 168 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: that's why girls people because interesting, because I often am 169 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: told that, and yet I often think I'm an open book. 170 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm a very honest, blunt person. I will tell you 171 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: how I feel if you ask me a question, and 172 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: yet for some reason people can't figure me out. I 173 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: think part of it is because I have many different 174 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: opinions about things, and I do have you know, sometimes 175 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: they can be really quiet. Sometimes I can be big, 176 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: like loud, um, what do you think? Just on the 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't I didn't watch it as much as Jana, 178 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: but the first few seasons, yeah, but it seemed like 179 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: guys weren't warm and fuzzy with you right like. It 180 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: always kind of seemed like they the way Maybe it's 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: just the way they produced it or edited that you 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: were kind of on your own and not you know, 183 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: buddy Buddy with all the all the all the bros. 184 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: Some truth to that early on and some of it 185 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: TV show on Andy season, it was very browy season. 186 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: It was like particularly like like Bro. It was also 187 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: can and Sean just like fun. That's the thing that 188 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: Caitlyn thing is so specifically to the Andy season. It 189 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: was a browy season and it was a poorly cast 190 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Andy season was one of the lowest rated 191 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: bat Shirts of all time, and that was mostly because 192 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: it was kind of a boring season where they didn't 193 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: really have a villain. I was made to be the 194 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: villain and that was the runner up. And when you 195 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: watch it back, it was like, it's not really doing anything. 196 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: He gets he seems relatively normal, but like, you know, 197 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: I gave Andy, I mean, I was a villain because 198 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: I was strategic. That was my big crime, as I 199 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: gave her flowers. And so I think there wasn't at 200 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: the worst, you know, you didn't have the chat or 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: some of this real drama, all these different storylines. It 202 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: was a bunch of guys who were like bro and 203 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: everyone was like cool with each other because and I 204 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: was just like and I really liked Andy and there 205 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: was a real relationship and I just was like I 206 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: didn't have time for them. Um as far as Catlin season, 207 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: I showed up, right, I showed up as the perceived villain, right. 208 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: So all these guys at the time, the Tanners and 209 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: the Jared's and the bends of the world, you know, 210 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: there you know, then I came in they had this 211 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: literal target on my back. They were all really sweet 212 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: and it's funny. I'm you know, Jared, Jared Tanner, some 213 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: really good funds of mine, as well as Ben Higgins. Um, 214 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: they're all really cool. It was at that point just 215 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: so the story of the entire season was just Nick 216 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: versus Sean. That's that was the literally the whole season. 217 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: So are you? Are you Caitlin versus if you could pick, 218 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: it's a Caitlin or Sean team whom nobody you guys, 219 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: you have like a total hatred for her. No, and 220 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: that's not true. Caitlyn called me last week. Oh well, 221 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: there was a big article in US about how you guys, 222 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: I call it big another artist. Thanks for keeping up 223 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: on me. No, no, I'm not keeping up on you. 224 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I was keeping up on US weekly there for my stories. Um, okay, 225 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: well that's so you guys are fine now, she called. 226 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean I was always fun. I was always annoyed 227 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: with Caitlin. Um because over the past, I mean, in reality, 228 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: I showed up for a season which she uh basically 229 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: asked me to show up. I was I willingly also 230 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: wanted to show up. I very at the time strong 231 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: feelings for you know, the little relationship we had before 232 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: h um, and since you know, then she picked Sean, 233 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: which was ultimately the right choice, and then I basically 234 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: went away. You know, I didn't talk about her. If anything, 235 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: when she was getting criticism for the whole like sex 236 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and whatever, and she was getting heat, I was defending her. 237 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: And then other than that, I just kind of went away. 238 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: And basically for the past three and a half years, 239 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: when it was ever convenient for her, whether it was 240 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: like a snarky joke or on her podcast, I was 241 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: always mean thrown under the bus by her for whatever reason, 242 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: and this implication that like, well then the producers maybe 243 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: bring Nick or blah blah blah, and I'm always like, yeah, 244 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: none of those remotely true kind of thing. And so 245 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: I was just always frustrating, and she made some more comments, 246 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: and at this point now you know that the excuse 247 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: was always Sean. You know, I was like, well, you know, 248 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: because Sean is insecure San, Sean is this, and um, 249 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: so I was pretty pissed, and so I made some 250 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: comment which I probably shouldn't have done, but I would 251 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: when it came when it comes to Caitlin. I'm very 252 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: sensitive about that situation because it was like, dude, look 253 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: what the well you took the high road and she 254 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: kept throwing ja well not only talking the high road, 255 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: it was no hyrod like. It was like we broke up, like, 256 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: you know, like I showed up. I'm sorry your fiance 257 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: hates me, but like what did I do? Um? And 258 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: to appease him? Like I was literally the butt of 259 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: jokes except when I was the batch or whenever it 260 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: was convenient for her. She would willingly show up on 261 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy like she if it was you know, and so 262 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: that was frustrating. So anyways, she called. We had a 263 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: very nice conversation. She was very gracious, and it was 264 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: a conversation that she acknowledged should have happened a much 265 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: long ago. And it was a great It was a 266 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: great conversation and it was water under the bridge, and 267 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: it was probably some closure. I'd probably even thought I 268 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: I needed the time, but she certainly validated a lot 269 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: of things I had always thought and kind of acknowledged 270 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: and admitted. And it was it was nice to finally 271 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: hear so and her and Sea are done. Yeah she's dating, 272 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: So that's probably why she was able to finally have 273 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: that conversation with you. It sounds like it, but it 274 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: really kind of piste me off the sense of yeah 275 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: I can I told her this. I was like, dude, 276 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: like I went away and it's like, for some reason, 277 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you've painted this narrative for three and a half years 278 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: that I was like some sort of prior to you, 279 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: when in reality there were stories that she too like 280 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: it was like quite the opposite. It was like, um, 281 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: and so again she was gracious and kind of things 282 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: that she admitted and acknowledged, and I was like, well, 283 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm not great. You know. It's like I know I'm 284 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: not crazy, but thank you for acknowledging I'm not crazy. Um. 285 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: I think I think people's own insecurities can kind of 286 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: get in the way of you know, yeah, yeah, that 287 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: can happen. So so what are you doing now? You've 288 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: done all this bachelor stuff, You've done everything under the sun, Like, 289 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: what what about Nick? Now? And moving forward? About now? 290 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: What about I like that? What about Nick? Now? It's 291 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: a good show? Nick Now? I have named my podcast 292 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: now you should have the vil Files. Nick Now. I 293 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: have a podcast. It's called The Vile Files. It's Uh, 294 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: that's going well. Seen people seem to like it, seemed 295 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: to dig it. Jan is going to come on. I 296 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: am super pumped about that. What's the topic of conversation. 297 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot of dating focus, but it's not I'm 298 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: just going to grill you about what is it? Like 299 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, because you you I don't think you go 300 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: you need to go a little deeper, like there's something 301 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: deep rooted in you. Yeah, don't you have you listen 302 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: to podcast? I don't know. Well, are you talking about me? 303 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't care. No, but I mean you haven't listened 304 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: to this, probably exactly, but no. Um, like I feel 305 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: like you like there's something that you're trying to find 306 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: and in myself. Yeah, you want to put me on 307 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: your couch, so to speak. Okay, Um, we do a 308 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: lot of dating stuff. It all kind of stemmed from 309 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: my questions with Nick that I do on my Instagram 310 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: and so fans will call in and with a lot 311 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: of dating questions, sex questions, Well we'll dive into it. 312 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: We cover the Bachelor when it's on Bachelorette rather for 313 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. No, we're just gonna talk about life 314 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: and you know, so he's doing oils now I also 315 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: have also oil company that jan is all about essential oils. Well, 316 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: she now has USD organic essential oil blends from natural habits. Yes, 317 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: and can you because Michael doesn't. And I really don't 318 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: know what they're doing either, but I just know that 319 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: I've been told they're good for I'm constantly diffusing around 320 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: the house and then I'm how what do I do 321 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: to Jay's? But I'm doing it wrong. I wish people 322 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: would see like before It's like she's blessing Jay's before 323 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: he goes to bed with essential oils. It's like on 324 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: his forehead, on his feet, like behind his ears, and Jenny, 325 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: you want to be careful, uh, depending on the essential 326 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: oil and the quality of the oils. Essential oils have 327 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: medicinal benefits and they're very potent in a great way, 328 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: but you do want to be careful by putting pure 329 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: essential oils directly on your skin and children's skin because 330 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: they have sensitive um. If you're gonna put essential oils 331 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: on your on your skin, you wanted to loot it 332 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: with a cry oil. Essential oils does that with their 333 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: roll ons already. So we have the pure essential oil 334 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: that you put in a diffused it or you went 335 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: on put into a couple of few drops under warm 336 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: back and you can get the aroma therapy that way. Um. 337 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: And we specially we blend them already so they're already blended, 338 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: so they have specific like you make me a baby blend, 339 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: I want to mean a baby blend. So another company 340 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: which I won't name because we're promoting yours, the level 341 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: marketing company called Young Living. Oh yeah, man, they have 342 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: a get not us dr again, but they say this 343 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: for baby like gentle baby sniffle ease for the kids. 344 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all marketing in a sense, but we 345 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: try to focus on the actual like benefits. And you 346 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: know the thing about the Essential oil company, sometimes it 347 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: gets a bad rap because central oils can be very 348 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: beneficial for you, right, they can have a lot of 349 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: various benefits. But sometimes because I think my husband's we 350 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: have like the center blend is it's specific. It's blends 351 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: of various oils to help reduce and um headaches. So 352 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: if you're prone to headaches, you would diffuse it in 353 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: your house or roll it on the and the roll 354 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: ons and well, if you have a headache will help 355 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: reduce it. And if you are prone to headaches. It 356 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: will help you not at them at all. Our release 357 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: is great for winding that at the end of the 358 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: day are going to sleep. It helps with anxiety. That's 359 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: why I started using essential oils. You have anxiety to 360 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: very bad. I have terrible anxiety, So I would use 361 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: the release a lot. The rise of something you'd use 362 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: in the morning kind of gives you a little uh 363 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: mental clarity. UM focus, you know, kind of gives you 364 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: some energy boost of energy. You use them all through 365 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: the fusers. Mike a warm bath if you ever bath up, 366 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm a big bath. How did you put a few drops? 367 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: And our protectives for immunity boost with UM so the 368 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: the blends that are already in there. And so if 369 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: you if you call which one I put on any well, 370 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like I don't think your baby gets headaches, 371 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: and maybe not that. I think the protect would probably 372 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: something I would put on because it helps boost their immunity. 373 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: You can put the UM release on there for sure. Okay, 374 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: why do you have anxiety? Why don't I have anxiety 375 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: and put it on you? When you put it on 376 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: a baby, put on the bottom of your feet, they're temple. 377 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: That's one of the many locations. It's diluted. It's diluted 378 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: the roll on UM so are it's safe. But you know, 379 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: if you want to be extract cautious, UM sample it 380 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: and if they don't have any type of reaction. But 381 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: what differs you, guys from all the other essential oils, Well, 382 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: the biggest ones. We are U s D Organic certified, 383 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: which in the essential oil space is unique. We're not 384 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: the only ones, but we're one of the few. UM. 385 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: A lot of companies will call themselves add percent pure. Uh, 386 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: some kindanies will call themselves therapeutic grade. That's it. If 387 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: you google it, it's made up designation that's not recognized 388 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: by any official third party in the U s D. 389 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: A UM has qualified our oils is organic because of 390 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: the farms that we source for oils from and they 391 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: have no contamination or wrote off or adulter ins or 392 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: fragrances or alcohol that we put in them. So an 393 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: you really think it's helped your anxiety? Yeah? Absolutely? Is 394 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: it just in your head? No, it's absolutely not your 395 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: head when it comes to essential oils. It's listen, it's 396 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: it's something. It's one thing I used to help with 397 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: my overall mental emotional and physical well being. Exercising also 398 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: helps my anxiety. Eating right also helps with anxiety. Staying 399 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: off my phone, it's one thing that helps me. Um 400 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the center Blend. It helps me with my headaches sometimes. 401 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: Have I ever still taken an idear hero thin because 402 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: my head is so bad? Sure? But this has allowed 403 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: me to take less medication for anxiety or head aches. Uh, 404 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't get sick very often, you know, in terms 405 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: of using it to boost my immune system and so um. 406 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Also just keep in mind too forgetting about that. When 407 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: you are talking about essential oils. Do you use candles? Jenna? Probably? 408 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: You know? Do you want to know goes into the candle? 409 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: What toxins lead, paraffins, egens like uh, I can't even 410 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: pronounce some of them. They're terrible. Canary and coal mine? 411 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that story? I know, canarian a, 412 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: cole mine, West Virginia coal miner. Are the candles all 413 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: bad though? Pretty much? Well? I mean candle, you're still 414 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: burning it? I mean you can There are really yes, 415 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: there are some kind of are really or yes, aesthetically 416 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: they're great, sure, but those are like a hundred and 417 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: fifty dollar candles. But most candles you're spending bucks on 418 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: have in they're colored their chemicals, and you're setting it 419 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: on fire and you're breathing it. How much of those 420 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: malone candles? I don't even know how much do they cost? 421 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: If if they're if they got bad stuff in them, 422 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna really do an uproar because those are expensive. Candle? 423 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: How much like bucks? A candle? A candle? And now 424 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: how long if you burn it nonstoff? How long will last? 425 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: A couple of days? Couple days? Well, an essential oil 426 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: blend is around fifty bucks? And so how much is 427 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: this set that eighty eight dollars? And then all right, 428 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: now are blends are forty dollars? They're usually fifty six? 429 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: But there right now? Okay? And then where do the 430 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: listeners go? Dot com and follow Instagram? In natural habits? 431 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: But yes, carry in a coal mine. Uh. Coal miners 432 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: would carry canaries into a coal mine to make sure 433 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: that the air was safe because birds in general have 434 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: sensitive respiratory systems, and if you put a bird heard 435 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: specifically canary, next to a candle, they'll have you tested. This. No, 436 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: it's just like a feeder. It's just a fact. My 437 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: point is is this for all the people who are 438 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: so worried about what they're breathing, and like your plugins, 439 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: your glade air fresheners, also all chemicals and synthetic adulterants 440 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: you're putting in your air and your skin and your 441 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: respiratory system is when your largest organs and then all 442 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: goes into your blood. So before you start burning a candle, 443 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: when you too want to make some love and have 444 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: some sex, set the mood right, light some candles, blow 445 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: it out. I'll be fine, but don't fill your indoor 446 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: air yourself with um. Diffuse them instead. Do you have 447 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 1: a diffuse in every room? I do? Actually, I mean 448 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: I own the company. So I have two black ones 449 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: in a white one in my house. Can we get 450 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: some more of these for that? Like? How like how 451 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: should we have it in in a house? How many 452 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: should you have? Should you have one about four to 453 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: six square feet? So this would be Jolly's room, rolly room. Ums. 454 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: Two settings where you have a set setting where constant 455 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: stream last about four hours, and you have one where 456 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: it will look um kind of intermittence. We have one 457 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: of these that look the exact same one just doesn't 458 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: say that in the bottom I don't know. I got 459 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: it from I think a different company, but same a 460 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: lot ceramic and it's sup stone diffuser and it lights 461 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: up if you want. All right, so n h oils 462 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Nick, You're awesome. Good bye. Hiring is challenging, 463 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: but there's one place you can go where hiring is simple, 464 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: fast and smart, a place where growing businesses connect to 465 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: qualified candidates. 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We just got back 491 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: from almost a week of traveling and Jane and I 492 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: are so happy to be back in our sick number. Yeah, 493 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: because it's so great because Mike likes a little harder, 494 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: I like it a little softer, and it's just so 495 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: great that we're able to choose truly what we want 496 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: for our sleep to have quality sleep. So coming during 497 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: the Memorial Day sale and say one thousand on new 498 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: Sleep Number three sixty special editions smart bed for temperature balancing, 499 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: comfort and exceptional Value. 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I mean we even had an argument this 507 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: morning about about the tension around the money issues because 508 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: we were playing Alexa and Jolie wanted to watch TV, 509 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: but it was like, you need to subscribe to whatever 510 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: and Michael goes, sorry, Jolie, we can't afford that, and 511 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: then I said, yeah, because Daddy spends our money, like 512 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: I was saying it in a joking way, and he 513 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: got you, what's so upset about. It's been a sense 514 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: of thing recently because our whole situation with although iPad 515 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: game and all that dumb stuff. So it was just 516 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: it felt like a jab in the moment. I was like, 517 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: are we over this? Because I'm not really receiving this 518 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: as a joke, even though that was your intention, right, 519 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: But I didn't know because we really haven't completely settled 520 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: it as all right, this is we're done with this. 521 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: It's in the past. There's no animosity. Let's move on. Well, 522 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: now we gets talked to a financial expert. His name 523 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: is David bach Um. He has nine New York Times 524 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: best sellers. That's pretty Yeah, that's impressive. Oh, this is interesting. 525 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: So basically, the latte factor explains how the money we 526 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: waste on frivolous things. So the Hulu subscription you never watch, um, 527 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: the latte that has become the habit and isn't even enjoyed, 528 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: so the bottle water and so on that you don't 529 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: even um. Basically, all those things that you can save 530 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: on can make you rich. So, for example, if we 531 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: don't have certain subscriptions that we don't use, but who 532 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: may think we use And that's a great, a great question. 533 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: I have a great question around that. But also I 534 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: have something to say. I was thinking this the other day. 535 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on when we get to the 536 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: Nashville house. I would really like to cut out plastic 537 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: water bottles, so we like I buy a case of water. 538 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: You go through it in like two days because you 539 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: drink so much water. I do drink a lot of water. 540 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: Here's my problem. You can even tell the difference between 541 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: Arrowhead and Essentia. You can tell. The people will say 542 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: you can't taste the difference. I promise you when you 543 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: drink a water, we'll get the best filter money can buy. 544 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: If we can get the filter that goes through the house, 545 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: then yes, refrigerator has a filter. No, but those are 546 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: not good filters. What's a good filter? What is it? 547 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: What is Essentials filter? What do they use? They? I 548 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: saw the thing on YouTube. Let's reach out to Essentia. 549 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: Let's hey give us your patent technology Instagram the other 550 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: day just to try to get a free bottle. No 551 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: luck yet, but I'm working on it. Um No, but 552 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: I just there's a lot of things like lead in water. 553 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: Right when you need do those tests. People can do 554 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: the tests of what's in the water, and water can 555 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: be very bad. And that's in order for it to 556 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: be as much water for county to allow it to 557 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: be drinking water, it has to pass certain tests and 558 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: all of that. Okay, Flint that with Mike on this one. 559 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: Tap water is just fine. I will say this. There 560 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: are parts of the country where it's not so fine. 561 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: But Nashville, I'm sure has fantastic tap water. Yes, okay, 562 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: so up North Michigan we have the best freaking water ever. 563 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean to the point where my mom used to 564 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: bring home jugs like milk carton jugs of water. But 565 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: you can taste the difference between a britta and essential water. 566 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: I promise you same amount. Michael. You even sat there 567 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: and you go this taste like lake water when you 568 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: were drinking, because I had just taken a sip of 569 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: ascension and just taking a sip of a lake arrowhead 570 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: local water. And what is the reasoning that you want 571 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: to get rid of the bottles? Because? Is it because 572 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: the waste or because because we're We're right, but we 573 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: do go through a lot. And just from a cost standpoint, 574 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: like we're like where we're about to where we're about 575 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: to talk about with David back, is I feel like 576 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: maybe that's something where we could cut cost because we 577 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: buy so much because we drink so much water. All right, 578 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: that's an idea. Okay, fine, I can cut that. That's 579 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: huge for me though, you know, that's like I'm not 580 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: saying we have to. I'm just saying it just it's 581 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: a thought. She's setting you up. Now, she's saying that's huge. 582 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: Now she's gonna go back for you to give something. 583 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: It has I think you should not golf ever again. Um, 584 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: excuse me. Can we just give me wife points? Because 585 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: I was going through the checklist with you last night. Yeah, 586 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: I have the I have the best wife ever. Because 587 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: I ripped out this page and like a recent Golf 588 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: Digest top hundred public courses in the country for two twenty, 589 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: and I told her, I was like, you know, this 590 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: is kind of like my new bucket list. I want 591 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: to be able to cross off every one of these courses. 592 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: And she's like the only wife I would know that. 593 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Like last night, yesterday, we're in Vegas and I went 594 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: and played Shadow Creek, which is probably the most beautiful 595 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: course I played to date, more than Pebble, even though 596 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: Pebble's number one on the list, And she was sitting 597 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: there like next to me, crossing off she and she 598 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: was like, you know later, you know, next month I 599 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: have to go to organ. Maybe come to Organ. Here's 600 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: something organ And like trying to logistically plant it out 601 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: with me, and I looked at it like, you're like 602 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: the coolest wife ever, because no other wife would do this. 603 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: Every other wife would be like, why are you going 604 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: to do that? You're gonna spend money, this and that. 605 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: So if it's something that you enjoy and it's an 606 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: outer circle, you know, behavior, Yeah, it is my number 607 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: one thing for me. So I appreciate that, right, and 608 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: so don't take away my water. Kid me by water 609 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: water bottles. I mean, if you can get the essential 610 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: filter mark, what do you do? Can you like Google 611 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: like how to get the best filter? Because I water like, no, 612 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: it's not. If you drink a vy On water, it 613 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: tastes like lotion. And I promise you if we get 614 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: an evy On bottle right now and you drink Von 615 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: versus An, essentially you can taste. I would like to 616 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: do a taste test with you guys on water, different 617 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: bottled water. Next week. We'll do That'll do That'll get 618 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: a million percent. Know Evon literally tastes like lotion. It 619 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: is very curious if if your palette is that sensitive, 620 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: you could tell the difference. Yes, you can, think you can. 621 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: So you're could you do a hydro flask out of 622 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: refrigerator and live on that. What does that mean? You know, 623 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: the big hydro flasks, the big heavy things that everybody's 624 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: carrying around right now, Tony's got a hot pink one. Well, 625 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: I have a new line coming out and I'm creating 626 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: my own technic. There you go. So that only drink 627 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: the water out of the refrigerator, which is filter want 628 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: to be digit water. I don't like. I don't like 629 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: refrigerated water. I do drink only room tip because cold 630 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: water is not good for your system. It's not she's 631 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: been Okay, she's been trying to convince me of that 632 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: since we started dating. Let me just google it right now, 633 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: but I will tell you that it jump starts your 634 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: system in the morning. It's not good for you. But 635 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: it's not as cut and dried as that cold water 636 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: is bad for you. It's not bad for you. Wait, 637 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: it just says there's no evidence that drinking cold water, 638 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: according to the Indian turned Well what I've been told. Okay, 639 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: time out. Now she's going down the rabbit hole where 640 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: she's gonna search, search until she finds what she wants 641 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: to see. Drinking cold water does have its benefits. Okay, 642 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I don't want to read that. Um, it's 643 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: just not as simple as it's bad for you drinking. 644 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: I will say to defend Janna with the whole water 645 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: thing is there's two things that Jana splurges on, that's 646 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: wine and water. So if she really puts up a fight, 647 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: I can. I'll just do my part and me and 648 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: the kids won't have, you know, water bottles and if 649 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: the if the if you thank you, Mark, that's the 650 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: kind of guy I am. No, I will say, I 651 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: agree with you. We have a ton of water bottles 652 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: and I need to stop with the essential. If we 653 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: can find a filter that is good, and I know 654 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: that's good for me because sometimes we forget to change 655 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: the brittle filter. It's been it was like seven months 656 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: and we just changed the brittle filter. That's another exaggeration, 657 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: but anyways, but I'm just saying, if we can just 658 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: make sure because I mean, even our refrigerator filter. I 659 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: know we should stop talking about this because who cares, 660 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: But like we don't change the filter, and then I'm like, 661 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: I get I don't even like people drinking my water 662 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: because I wanted to be clean because it grosses me out. 663 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: She won't let me take a sip for a water Bottleney, 664 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: Can I just have a SIPs? No, I'm like dying. 665 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: I can be dying in the desert. Nope, I'm doing 666 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: better now I'll let you know because now that Jolie 667 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: does so. Anyways, So okay, water? What else could we 668 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: cut out on for you? Bread? Tell our daughter that? No? 669 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, what's what's what's spends? Want? We don't really 670 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: do Starbucks? We don't really. I mean, what else? Smart? 671 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: What is your TV situation? What subscriptions? Do you have 672 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: all the subscriptions? We don't. We just have enough Flix 673 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: all the movies now we don't, but we have all 674 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: the movie channels. Oh so your cable bills? Pretty asterna 675 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: cable bills because we cancel cable and that's saved its 676 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: a good hundred bucks a month. Should we cancel cable? 677 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: What do you do for sporting events? Who do Live? Okay, 678 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm right this. Who do Live gives you your local channels. 679 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like we've just transitioned into a commercial But 680 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: we have your local channels and live a whole bunch 681 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: of cable channels. Live YouTube TV does the same thing. 682 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: It's personal preference. I prefer Hulu Live because it's fewer 683 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: commercials now and I'm very happy with it. And if 684 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: you use code East dot com and you get nothing, 685 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: get nothing, it will say invalid. Michael Haytes duk TV. 686 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: I think we're getting what in Nashville table we can't have. 687 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: We can't have satellite dishes hanging on our house in 688 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: the New neighborhood. Are you getting You're getting Comcast Spectrum. 689 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they do, but Spectrum has it 690 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: now where you can just stream your cable through them 691 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: and it's tons cheaper. You can pick your cable channels. 692 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: You can do it all a cart that's p I 693 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: like that because it's either with directs that you have 694 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: to buy all the movie channels. Okay, so there's that. 695 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: We don't spend much in that. We have all the 696 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: channels from She watches like the local channels like seven 697 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: ABC and all that stuff, and then I'll watch the 698 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: ESPNS in Golf channel and then nothing in between like 699 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: two D two until like five or anything like that. 700 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: You're not watching the LRA network or so whol live. 701 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: There you go. It's got your networks. All your shows 702 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: are on demand without commercials. If you pay the extra 703 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: five bucks of my for the code for this. ESPN 704 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: and the Golf channel are on there, because that's my 705 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: dad watches when he comes to visit, and it's streaming, 706 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: and it's thirty five dollars a month, maybe forty with 707 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: the ads fifteen bucks extra. You got HBO. What about 708 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: Thunderstorms it's streaming. Oh, that's only satellites like direct TV. 709 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: But is the NFL sendy tickets still exclusive? Hey, I'm 710 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: not sure. I think it is exclusive. I think it is. 711 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: I just love how we go real deep, like last episodes, 712 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: like super Deep, we're talking about like sex addiction. Now 713 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about Hulu Live subscription. This is going to 714 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: touch more people than that, Probably more people A canna 715 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: be stacking their heads, see honey. Yeah, Well it is 716 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: a dilemma. Everybody's dealing with it right now. There's so 717 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: many services and scribe. I don't want to know the 718 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: best one to save us money for what we watch 719 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: because we really don't watch that much TV. That's a 720 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: good thing to sit down and figure out what you 721 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: can come without. So TV that's good in the middle. 722 00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: One on demand we're really bad at We're terrible on demand. Yeah, 723 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: that's bad. But at the same time, though, I mean, 724 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: we don't not anymore, not any more because the kids 725 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: did I mean watching movies and on top of everything else, 726 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: you're paying a month for TV. Yeah, that's a good spot. 727 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean we we. iPad games aren't no more because 728 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: we basically you're non existent. They're not existent because I 729 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: blocked the in app purchasing on Michael's iPad, so he 730 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: now does not have he doesn't have your parenting code. 731 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: But here's the deal. I gave him three don't worry. 732 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: That doesn't make me feel like I'm a child. But 733 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: could you do it without it? No? I gave you 734 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: three choice. Still couldn't. She didn't tell me that it happened. 735 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: You told me to, and then you said I shouldn't 736 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: have to. I said, you're right. So I was going 737 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: along not buying anything. And then and then he went 738 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: to go buy something. No, it accidentally like I was 739 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: trying to click out or whatever and accidentally try to run, 740 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, because dumb print, even if you try to 741 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: click out of it, it will reach your dumbrint try 742 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: to purchase, and then it comes up and tries to 743 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: purchase as in that purchases have been turned off this mother, 744 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and for all the people that are just 745 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: catching up and they're like, oh, you're so mean to 746 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: your husband. If your husband spent over ten tho dollars 747 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: and thousand dollars, the number increases every time. Well it's 748 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: it's around six thousand. That's only for the few months 749 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: that I've checked. So what game costs six thousand dollars? Yeah, 750 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: you don't want to get into a share because it's 751 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: exactly thank you very much, be your wife be blocking that. 752 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: And then I and then I brought the you know, 753 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: the situation that was just one month. You know, if 754 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: I was if I had if I was playing video 755 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: games again, like regular console video games, this isn't part 756 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: of that. You don't have to have in that purposes. 757 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: You buy the game once and then that's it. And 758 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: she was like oh really. I was like yeah, She's like, 759 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: m maybe we can talk about I think that's a 760 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: bad road to go down. I think video games are 761 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: an addictive thing. Because I'm a victim of that. There 762 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: are no video games in her house because I cannot 763 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: stop once I start. Yeah, I definitely used to be 764 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: that way. I think now it's like even Janna, like 765 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, she she would if we had a serious conversation, 766 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: was like, honey, I really enjoy this. You know. I 767 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: know in the past it was triggering because of our 768 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: own issues. And just so people know, so this isn't 769 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: just Jenna coming from a place of just authority or whatever. 770 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I don't want people just to think you're 771 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: coming down on me for no reason. In the past, 772 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: I would always express to Janna like my only vice 773 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: is video games, like I just want to play video games, 774 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: when really I was doing other things behind her back, 775 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: which were you know, the affairs and stuff like that. 776 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: So that felt like the curtain for my behavior. So 777 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: Janna kind of correlates to two and so I empathize 778 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: with that. So I understand why, which is why I 779 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: took a hammer to his advices to my that's right, 780 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: So I so I understand. So just so people know, 781 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't want people to get on you for no reason. 782 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: So there's something behind that. That being said, if we 783 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: want to have a real conversation, Janna would be willing 784 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: probably to be like, Okay, we'll talk about it, but 785 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: we don't have time. I don't have time yeah, I 786 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: have no time. No. I mean maybe if we get 787 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: on the better schedule with the baby, maybe when the 788 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: kids get older, but I just want to golf. So anyway, 789 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll talk to David back 790 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: when we come back. So you spend a third of 791 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: your life and sheets, so it's about time for a 792 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: betting upgrades. So this is a true story I want 793 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: to tell you guys about. So we changed our sheets 794 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: in our bedroom and Michael gets into bed and he says, honey, 795 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: these are the most amazing sheets ever. What are these? 796 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: And weird you get on It was like, um, these 797 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: are brook Lennon And it's funny because their tagline is 798 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: these really are the best sheets ever. 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Hi, guys, I'm doing great. 847 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: We're really excited to talk to you because, like I 848 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: think probably every married couple, we've definitely had our um 849 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: financial arguments, um, which I'm sure obviously you are an 850 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: expert too, and so that's why we're super pumped to 851 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: talk to you because you are I feel like you're 852 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: kind of like the guru for all things financial. Well, 853 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 1: thank you, you're welcome. Um, So the Latte Factor that's 854 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: out now, right, Yeah, this book just came out last week. Congratulations, 855 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: thank you so much. We're so excited. It's really just 856 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: like taken off. This is my thirteenth book. So it's 857 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: been really fun because this is the first book I've done. 858 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: It's a story, it's not a classic non fiction self 859 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 1: help financial book. And people really reading the book like 860 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: from you know, in one sitting, and it's having such 861 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: a profound impact on them that they're already going out 862 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: and buying four or five, six, nine copies and giving 863 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: them out his gift to friends and kids for graduations. So, um, 864 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: it's been an amazing way. That's awesome. Congratulations, that's so 865 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: cool and what would what would you say as like 866 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: the log line for the Ltte Factor the log line 867 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: on that phrase before um, If I were to give 868 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: you the the three minute story of The Latte Factor, 869 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: it's it's a story about a young woman named Zoe 870 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: Daniels who's the Millennials. She's twenty seven years old. She 871 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: works in Brooklyn and she's been living in this She's 872 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: been working in the city New York City now for 873 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: six years and has her dream job and is actually 874 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: making more money every year. But at the end of 875 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: six years, she sort of looks up and realizes that 876 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: she's still living paycheck to paycheck, that she still has 877 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: student loans, and that she's not getting ahead. She's renting, 878 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,959 Speaker 1: and she's starting to question if all of the hard 879 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: work that she is doing is ever going to lead 880 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: to anything even remotely related to financial freedom, because she 881 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like she's living her dream life at all. 882 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: And so she goes on a journey where she starts 883 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: to think about where is her life going and she 884 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: meets mentors, starting with a woman named Barbara in her 885 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: office that began to teach her how she can basically 886 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: be financially free and go for her dreams and ultimately 887 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: be rich, and how it can be as simple as 888 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: starting by saving five to ten dollars a day. And 889 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: so she's taught this metaphor h called the Latte factor, 890 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: which is a way to look at where are you 891 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,479 Speaker 1: spending money and then learn how to redirect that money 892 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: to putting herself first. She learns how in this little 893 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: short book, the Little Story, Little short of Story, she 894 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: learns how to do what's called pay yourself first. And 895 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: she's really taught that's critical at a young age to 896 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: becomes financially selfish, to put herself first, and learns how 897 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: to do that, you know, not through budgeting, because she learns, 898 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, budgeting doesn't work, and how to do it 899 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: through automation, so the money that she's saving is saved automatically. 900 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: And finally, like two learns you know, the two critical 901 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: lessons of wealth, which is that she needs to also 902 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: own real estate. She have to own real estate and 903 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: you have to own stocks because those are the two 904 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: primary escalators to wealth. And finally, by the end of 905 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: the book, she really learns how to go for her 906 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: dreams and learns that you know, money is a tool 907 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: to three her to live her best life. And at 908 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: any age you can start to go for your dreams. 909 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: So that sounds awesome. I want to read act what David, 910 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: What inspired you to do it in this format of 911 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: more of a storytelling than you know, educational life, you know, 912 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of help? You know. The honest answer is that 913 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: with seven million books out, I've had nine consecutive New 914 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: York Times bestsellers on money and and that's incredible and 915 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for that. But but I've been frustrated. 916 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: I've been frustrated realizing most people will never read a 917 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: financial book. They may even buy them, but they won't 918 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: always read them. And so I just started really over, 919 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, over ten years ago, asking myself a question 920 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: which was, how could I package would people need to 921 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: know into a really short story that anybody could read? 922 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, we even start like starting as a teenager. 923 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: And so I my personally, my personal life, I've been 924 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: very impacted by storybooks like Who Moved My Cheese one 925 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: of most all time classic business books by Spencer Johnson. 926 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: Um The Alchemist by Paula Quelo is another book that 927 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: really had an impact on me. And so I started, 928 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, asking myself the question like, how could I 929 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: take how could I create a story that would especially 930 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: inspire young people to learn the lessons about money they 931 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: should have been taught in school and they never were. 932 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: And then anybody could get through in an hour to 933 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: ninety minutes. And that's what's happening with this book. This book, 934 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,919 Speaker 1: you know, the thing that was probably were the most 935 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: exciting for me. I have a fifteen year old who 936 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: has never read any of my other business books, but 937 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: he read this book cover to cover and read it 938 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: on a plane flight and he turned to me at 939 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: the end of two hours and said, well, Dad, this 940 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: book shows how you can become a millionaire starting at 941 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: nineteen and I'm only fifteen. So if I do this, 942 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: I could become a multi mulpen. And I was like, 943 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: you're right, you could. He's like, well, then let's do this. 944 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: Let's set up a retirement account for me. And so 945 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: now fifteen, he wants to have a raw th ra A. Well, 946 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 1: I couldn't get him to read any of the other books. 947 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't get in Blake. So I think stories have 948 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: a profound ability to change people's lives. And it took 949 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 1: me ten years to to go from an idea to fruition. 950 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: That has to be extremely rewarding for your son too, 951 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: for it to hit him like that and be that 952 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: into it. You know what, I gotta tell you something. 953 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: It's like the most rewarding thing I need that's ever 954 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: happened to me in my career. And I have two sons. 955 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: I have a fifteen year old and I have a 956 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: nine year old. And the nine year old when he started, 957 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: when he heard his older brother all excited it about 958 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: this book, and I'll motivated. She turned around and said, well, 959 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: I want to read it. So he's nine, he's halfway 960 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: through the book. Happens to be I'm actually, I'm actually 961 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: doing this with you, and I'm in my son's room 962 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: right now. The book is by his bed. He's nine, 963 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: he's read half of the book. He's told the teachers 964 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: about it, and he already gets the fact at nine 965 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: years old, that the lock factor is a metaphor that's 966 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: not about giving up your coffees. Because he said to 967 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: me the other day in the kitchen. You know, Dad, 968 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot factor. I don't drink coffee, 969 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: he said, but I have a v buck factor Now 970 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: for those who are listening who have no idea what 971 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 1: a v buck factor is, that those are the digital 972 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: coins you need to use in order to buy things 973 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: inside video games Minecraft. And so he says to me, 974 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: I have a v buck factor and then he goes, Wow, Dad, 975 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: I wish I had all that money back that I 976 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: wasted last year on v Bucks, because if I could 977 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: put it into these investments, I could have a whole 978 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: lot more money. Later, hear you on that because my 979 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: husband spent so much money on those iPad games, and boy, 980 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm like you just you literally just peeped all that 981 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: money away into the universe. And I'm like you, honestly, 982 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 1: when we talked about it, I was like, you could 983 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: have bought your motorcycle with all that money that you 984 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: spent on your in app purchases. And it's just it 985 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: makes it makes me sick because we have I think 986 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: we have a very different um habit with I guess spending. 987 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: And so it's hard at times because I'm like, that 988 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: money could have gone to your motorcycle, or could have 989 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 1: gone to this, or it could have been to our house, 990 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: or could have gone to Julie's you know something. And 991 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's very It's like what 992 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: do you do with that? How do you go to right? 993 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 1: Like and go you in the in the Lawe Factor, 994 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: what's happened? Like Joe Daniel, her dream is she wants 995 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: to chance to travel. She's ironically she's a travel writer. 996 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 1: She worked for travel magazine in the book, and she's 997 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: never traveled. She doesn't even have a passport. And and 998 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 1: as she's these mentors, they start to point out to her, 999 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: like the amount of money that you've been spending you 1000 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you just saved it for two or 1001 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,479 Speaker 1: three or four months, you'd go in your first trip. 1002 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: And she also wants to be a photographer, but she's 1003 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: not taking pictures, and they and they start to say 1004 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: to her, like, with this amount of money that you're spending, 1005 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: you could start taking pictures, you could take you could 1006 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: go take a class on how to be a photographer. 1007 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: So a big part of the lessons, like when you're 1008 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: talking about, is most of us are not consciously thinking 1009 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: about how we spend our money. But the problem with 1010 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: that is everybody is consciously thinking about how to take 1011 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: our money. So like those video games that you play, 1012 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: they're designed to stuck money out of your pocket, right 1013 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: that that's that's what they're intended to do. Everything that 1014 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 1: we do on social media in between seeing our friends, 1015 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: is an ad designed to separate us from our hard 1016 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: earned dollars. And we live in a world today where 1017 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: we can just be on our phone and then five 1018 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: seconds later click on something and spend money. It's never 1019 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:03,959 Speaker 1: been easier to spend mean unconsciously, and so the core 1020 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: message of the Latte factor is actually looking at what's 1021 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: most important to your values, your dreams, and then consciously 1022 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: spending money to get you closer to those things. So 1023 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: what do you do when like there is there is 1024 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: that difference in spending in a relationship, So like how 1025 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: do you Is it just you know, does someone have 1026 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: to bend obviously? Like what do you to to keep 1027 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: that money? Is it just where is the middle ground? Yeah? Yeah, So, 1028 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: by the way, I've been where you are. I've been 1029 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: in a position where I've fought about money with my wife, 1030 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: and years and years ago I wrote a book called 1031 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 1: Smart Couples, Finished Rich, where interviewed couples that didn't fight 1032 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 1: about money and became financially well off. And we're still 1033 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: married and still happy and still in love. And so 1034 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: here here's what couples of co are successful at dealing 1035 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: with what I would call the money compromised too. The 1036 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: first thing is you need to agree on a pay 1037 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: yourself first goal, a number you start with. You know 1038 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: someday you're gonna want to have money for the future, 1039 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: and you need to agree in order to do that, 1040 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: you have to pay yourself first. So what percentage of 1041 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: your income could the two of you agree to take 1042 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: off the top and pay yourself first? I would tell 1043 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: you it should be least ten percent of your gross income. 1044 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: But the two of you should talk about that, Like, 1045 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: let's agree on that so that that money is taken 1046 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 1: right off the top and put away into a retirement account. 1047 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, let's agree that. Well, let 1048 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: me ask you a specific questions. You guys have children. Yeah, 1049 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: we have two kids. We have a five month old 1050 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: and a three and a half year old. Okay, so 1051 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: do I don't know, do you have an insurance policy 1052 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 1: to protect you in case one or both that you 1053 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: die right now? So that's done, so you're taken care of. Like, 1054 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: because there's all these questions that like couples need to 1055 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: think about, like is your family protecting Great, you've got 1056 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: the will, you've got the insurance, so that's good. So 1057 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: then it's like who else the size retirement? Could the 1058 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: two of you agree on that you want to save 1059 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: money for that you could both be excited about. Well 1060 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: Mike wants his motorcycle college for our kids. Well no, 1061 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: but he's saying like that's already set up, you know, 1062 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: like our retirement is insurance. Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, we 1063 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: do have that set up. Look at you guys, you're 1064 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: doing so much right, So we're good, honey, that's spend spence. No, 1065 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: but we did. I will say this though. I did 1066 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: send an email to our business manager, which is very 1067 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: huge because I have a very hard time talking about money. 1068 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: It makes me very uncomfortable. Um, but I I I said, 1069 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,240 Speaker 1: I set a meeting for when we're back in Nashville 1070 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: because we're moving to Nashville, you know, and hopes to 1071 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: save money and you know, from not in l A 1072 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: and basically where it's like, Okay, how much are we 1073 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: spending a month and where can we not overspending the months? 1074 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 1: So it's like, so we're not spending crazy amounts of 1075 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: money and we're able to try to save and then 1076 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: put into those investments, you know, portfolios that we have. Um. 1077 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: I think that's like kind of what you're saying about 1078 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: figuring out like what's kind of left and how to 1079 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,439 Speaker 1: like pay each other out. Yeah, And I mean you see, 1080 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 1: you have a business manager, so they should be tracking 1081 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: where your money goes. But another thing the two of 1082 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: you can do is you can also like put an 1083 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: app on your phone that will prap where the money 1084 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 1: is going, so like mint dot com or clarity money 1085 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: dot com tracking where the money goes. It is a 1086 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: really useful thing to do, especially when you're a couple. 1087 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: You can kind of get the end of the week 1088 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: and go, you know, where the money really go. Once 1089 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: you see where the money is going, you can start 1090 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: to really think through like do we need all these things? 1091 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: Are there some things that we could change that we're doing? Um? 1092 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: Because I think the most important thing as a couple 1093 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: just to work as a team and don't let the 1094 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: money fight fester, Like the moneys fight usually are over stuff. 1095 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: And I always start to get couples to focus on 1096 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: the bigger picture, which are your values and your dreams, 1097 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: your goal Like a smart a couple of finish churches. 1098 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 1: Basically you can read. Honestly, you can just take that 1099 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: book and read it and you can sit down with 1100 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: the financial plan or do it yourself. Write down all 1101 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: your goals, write down all your values, and work on 1102 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: it as a team. But the kids that you want 1103 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: to work at it as a team, because you don't, 1104 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: the fights will continue. How do you determine, David, whether 1105 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: it's whether you're a married couple or an individual. You know, 1106 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: you talk about um focusing and prioritizing and things that 1107 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: are important for you in your life and your well being, 1108 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: but how do you you know, I feel like people 1109 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,919 Speaker 1: I know myself just from my personal experience. You people 1110 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: can find a way to rationalize or justify something to themselves. 1111 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: Would have come to purchase. Okay, yeah I should give 1112 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: up my coffee, but I really need my coffee or 1113 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 1: I really like my coffee. Like, how do you determine 1114 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: really the hierarchy of of what's important and what you 1115 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: can cut on? It's such a good question. Um, here's 1116 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: the thing that's so hard for for some people, not everybody, 1117 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: but for some people. Ball it's to imagine your life 1118 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: twenty and thirty years from now. And the amazing thing 1119 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 1: about money is that well that not even money. Time 1120 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: you blink your eyes and you're twenty years older, right, 1121 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: Like I remember being in my twenties and we had 1122 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, I was I was a brand new financial 1123 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: advisor and I was in training and we had a 1124 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: sixty one year old financial visor was getting ready to retire, 1125 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: come and speak to my training class. And he showed 1126 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: us his chart. It's absolutely the back of the book. 1127 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: It's the first chart in the back of the book, 1128 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: which is about the Camp Miracle compound interest in starting early. 1129 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: And he said who in his rooms twenty six and 1130 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of us raised her hand. He said, you'll 1131 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: just say five dollars and forty one a day, you 1132 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: can have nearly a million dollars by the time were 1133 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: sixty five, just two thousand dollars a year, and I 1134 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: are a county ay six. And he said, to you, guys, 1135 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: how many of you going out for a drink after 1136 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: work tonight? And so we all laughed and we all 1137 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: raised our hand because that's the first thing you do 1138 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: after a training class. And he goes, just have one 1139 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: less drink tonight, because because more than five dollars to 1140 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 1: have a drink in Manhattan. But he's like, just have 1141 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: more less drink and then go back to the office 1142 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: and funds your retirement account. He goes, because I'm sixty 1143 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: one and I'm retiring a multiloying her. I'm out of here. 1144 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm done. But I can tell you this, most of 1145 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: the guys in your office right now, when you go 1146 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: back to your office and their fifties, they're still broke 1147 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 1: and their financial advisors, which he goes, is pathetic, but 1148 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: he goes because most financial visors don't do for themselves 1149 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: when they do what they do for their clients. And 1150 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: he said, so all I can tell you is at 1151 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: whatever age you are in this room right now, you're yourself. 1152 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: Ten years from now, he's gonna thank you for having 1153 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: made a few changes to save more money. And they said, 1154 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: in yourself in twenty years and thirty years, is really 1155 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna thank you, because he says, you don't know it 1156 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: right now, but you're gonna get tired as you get older. 1157 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: You're not going to have the same energy and the 1158 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,919 Speaker 1: same hunger and the same as typically and you're gonna 1159 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: be really happy to turn around your fifties and your 1160 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: fifties and have a bunch of money and some of 1161 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: the stuff that you're gonna need to give up to 1162 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: get there. It's just not that big of a deal. 1163 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: And that got me, That got me to start investing. 1164 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: I just did an interview right before you with People 1165 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: magazine and the one woman interviewed me fifty nine, and 1166 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: she was reading this book and she said, you know, 1167 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: I love the book. I'm I'm super emotional right now. 1168 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: She's like, I just wish I had seen what was 1169 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: in the Latte Doctor when I was younger, because it 1170 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: seems like it's too late for me now. And I go, 1171 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: but it's not too late for you, fifty nine. Not 1172 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: too late, But you have to get started today. Like 1173 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: you can't spend time worrying about money. You have to 1174 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: go to work on your money. And then you have 1175 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: to get your money to work for you. And what 1176 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: do you mean when you say that, Well, so most 1177 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: people have a whole lot of money to have money 1178 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: to have in the bank account, right and a bank 1179 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: account earns nothing, maybe earns one percent, So money doesn't 1180 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: grow at one percent. Take seventy two years for your 1181 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: money to double. At one percent, you'll be dead by then, 1182 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: so money has to grow at a rate that's five 1183 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: percent or higher. And in the lot you've got your book, 1184 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, the mentors go through the different ways to 1185 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: make a higher rate of return, talking about from bonds 1186 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: to stocks and the first five portfolios. And like I 1187 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: was just talking to somebody else who was on the 1188 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: phone with me, and they were like, how can you 1189 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: make ten percent way to return? I'm like, last had 1190 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: the SMP five hundred. The stock market is done for 1191 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. If you if you just 1192 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: went to van Guard and looked up the SMP five 1193 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,479 Speaker 1: hundred funds, that's an index fund, you'd see that since 1194 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: inception the fund is earned ten percent annually. Now there 1195 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: have been years it's done better and there's years it's 1196 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: not worth but ten percent rate to return your money 1197 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: doubles every seven years. And if you don't want to 1198 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: take the risk of being all on the stock market, 1199 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: you can have a boring, diversified portfolio and those of 1200 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: average So you've got to get your money to earn money. 1201 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: And what when people go, I don't how do how 1202 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: does compound interests really work? What happens over time? Like 1203 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: in a couple of decades. Is that your money just 1204 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: starts making you a whole lot of money. It makes 1205 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: it while you sleep. This is why when people go, 1206 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, the rich get richer. The rich get richer 1207 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: because their money is making them money. The poor stay 1208 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: poor because what money they have is not doing anything 1209 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: at all. It's making somebody else rich. Right Like if 1210 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 1: you have a money in a bank account, it zero. 1211 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: It's making the people who own the bank rich. So 1212 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you just have to do on that. You have to 1213 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,959 Speaker 1: get in the game of building wealth with your money 1214 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 1: versus just having your money sit there. Absolutely, and if 1215 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 1: there before we wrap up with you, David, that's such 1216 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: amazing stuff and I hope the listeners take all that 1217 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: to heart. What are three areas just off the top 1218 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: of that, just real quick that you know that you 1219 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: could cut our listeners like where they should cut? You 1220 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: know where they're Jim coffee, cable subscription, whatever it is, Like, 1221 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: what's the top three that you've seen people will be 1222 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: able to cut? Okay, the fastest thing you can do 1223 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: to cut your overhead is I would download an app 1224 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: like Clarity Money and take a look at what have 1225 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 1: you signed up for? Because what Clarity Money will do. 1226 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: This is a financial app is it will show you 1227 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: what you signed up for that our subscription fees, anybody 1228 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: that you're paying monthly, will summarize it. If you don't 1229 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: want to download a new app, go through all your 1230 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: credit card bills, go through your checking account, and look 1231 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: at what have you signed up to pay for monthly? 1232 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 1: Because today we have we're paying everybody else besides yourself automatically, 1233 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: so like it could be gym membership, it could be 1234 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Apple storage, it could be Netflix, it could be you're 1235 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: having a box of goodies sent to you. I don't 1236 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 1: know what it is, but going through those six expenses 1237 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 1: and going what could have change? Because when you change 1238 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: a fixed expense that's fifty a month a year, and 1239 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: that's six thousand dollars over a decade. You do two 1240 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,439 Speaker 1: or three of those and you've just found enough money 1241 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: to start seriously saving and investing. So I look at 1242 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 1: the six expensive number one, number two, I look at 1243 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: what is your latte factor. I would go and track 1244 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: where your money goes for for just two days two days, 1245 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: carry pad of paper, spend money like you always do, 1246 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: write it down and then and then added up like 1247 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: people have done this and they're like, you know, I 1248 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: really do spend fifteen dollars a day at Starbucks. And 1249 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: then the question I go, will well quaint? So there's 1250 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 1: two choices you could make the coffee. You can don't 1251 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: buy Starbucks coffee, right like, you could make it at 1252 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: home for twenty cents. Or if you're not going to 1253 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: give it up, then you should start to look seriously 1254 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 1: at investing in the company where you're where you refuse 1255 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 1: to stop spending money, right like, if you have an 1256 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: issue where you use Uber a lot, Uber just want public, 1257 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 1: you could own that. You could own Uber, right like 1258 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: investing what you won't give up. And the third thing 1259 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: I would say is look at a big find a 1260 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: big expensive you could change, So biggest expense that people 1261 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: can change, and were most people are not conscious of this, 1262 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 1: but it's car expensive. So the average Americans car expense 1263 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: for a new car right now is five three dollars 1264 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: a month, and that doesn't include insurance, doesn't include gas. 1265 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: If you've got storage, it doesn't include storage. So what 1266 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I've seen is that many people are spending two to 1267 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: three months a year paying for their car. And one 1268 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: of the fastests you can do to cut your overhead. 1269 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: If your two car families go down to one car. 1270 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 1: If you're a three car family, for sure, get down 1271 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 1: with two cars and figure out if you can get 1272 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 1: your car overhead down, because the car overhead is almost 1273 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: like an expense that we take for granted. We just 1274 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: assume we have to have a car, and we have 1275 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: to have a certain sort of a certain amount of 1276 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,439 Speaker 1: money that always goes towards a car, and we don't 1277 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: really think about the overall financial ramifications. And today there 1278 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of ways to get around without owning 1279 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 1: a car. And if you can cut out one car expense, 1280 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: that can be the extra time. It's a lot of money, 1281 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: be enough money to help you retire ten years sooner, 1282 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 1: if you gave up one car in a family, or 1283 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: you went from an expensive car to a chupercar. I 1284 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: love that. Um, that's some really good advice. I'm super 1285 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: pumped about that. And we're gonna I'm gonna go home 1286 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: right now. I'm like making my list and being quiet 1287 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: over here making my list of what. Um, but seriously, 1288 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much, David, and we're um, we would uh, 1289 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read all your books now because you've got 1290 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: would you say thirteen. Yeah, but it starts to start 1291 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: with a Latta Factor and your for your listeners, come 1292 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: check out the website at the Latte factor dot com. Um. 1293 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: We've got a special big bonus gift thing going on 1294 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: there with like over five or dollars with a special 1295 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: downloadable bonuses and things. If they join us, we've got 1296 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: a special insider team. UM, and that's gonna go for 1297 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 1: about another two weeks and then David bo dot com 1298 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 1: is the primary website where all the books are listed 1299 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: and you can get our friend news letter there David 1300 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Bok dot com. Awesome. Thank you so much, David, Thank 1301 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: you so much. You guys are so welcome. I appreciate you. 1302 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on UM. That's really good advice. Money. 1303 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 1: Just want to talk about money, literally literally just irks me. 1304 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,479 Speaker 1: I know it does super good, just because I don't 1305 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to spend a penny if I if 1306 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: I didn't have to, I just want to save it all. 1307 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: I think we balanced each other out though, because you 1308 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,440 Speaker 1: got like you get so much anxiety at around it 1309 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: where you would never do anything for yourself, and so 1310 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: you have someone who is a little bit more loss. 1311 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I fear, which to a fault of mine, I am. 1312 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 1: I tend to be that way. Um, you know, I'm I. 1313 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 1: I think I offer you opportunities to to take care 1314 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: of yourself or to do something for yourself that you deserve. 1315 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: I try to mean you force me like you just 1316 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 1: force me to buy, because otherwise, you know, won't you won't. 1317 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's take an email mark what you got 1318 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: for me. But thank you very much. Jess says, due 1319 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 1: to blood pressure issues and being high risk, I'm having 1320 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: a C section next week at thirty nine weeks, and 1321 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: it was not in my plan. I desperately wanted a 1322 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: v back, which I learned is a vaginal birth after 1323 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: c section. Not until I became a father. I had 1324 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: an emergency c section eight years ago, and it was 1325 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 1: very traumatic. I had a panic attack while I was 1326 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: on the operating table and was screaming and asking if 1327 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 1: he my baby was going to die. I was restrained, 1328 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 1: had a spinal tap, couldn't feel my legs. I'm a 1329 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 1: sexual abuse survivor, and I'm so anxious and so scared. 1330 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to feel that way ever again, especially 1331 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 1: when I'm bringing my baby into the world. By the way, 1332 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: my son was able to heal and as a healthy, 1333 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: growing little man. I'm an avid podcast listener, and I 1334 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 1: know that you opted to have your C section, and 1335 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: I admire your bravery so much. I'm just hoping you 1336 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: could share anything with me that will help me feel better. 1337 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 1: Oh geez. I mean, first of all, I'm sorry that 1338 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 1: you have all those triggers. I look. I if you 1339 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: listen to the episode where I had Jason, I freaked out. 1340 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 1: I had a panic attack. I passed out. They gave 1341 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: me have to like to chill um. I was terrified. 1342 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: I think it's normal, it's okay. The amount of women 1343 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: I felt so stupid after that episode aired because I 1344 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 1: was embarrassed. But so many women have a hard C 1345 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,560 Speaker 1: section and they freak out. But at the end of 1346 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: the day, like it's traumatic, but just try to relax. 1347 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 1: I know it's hard to say when you can't feel 1348 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 1: your legs, because I was freaking out and I probably 1349 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: couldn't relax if we had a third baby. So I 1350 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 1: just know that you're gonna be okay. It's such a 1351 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 1: routine surgery and you will be okay. And put some 1352 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,560 Speaker 1: good music on. That's my advice. I mean, There's not 1353 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 1: more I could say other than that. I mean, hope 1354 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 1: that helps. I mean, yeah, she's not alone. Yes, you're 1355 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: not alone. Yeah, you're not alone. I'm gonna be okay, 1356 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,639 Speaker 1: and the baby is going to be You. Guys will 1357 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 1: be okay, I promise, And doctors have done this thousand 1358 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: times over, so you will be okay, and we'll be 1359 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 1: praying for you. And A says, I'm twenty five and 1360 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 1: I've never kissed someone. I'm totally disinterested in online dating, 1361 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,639 Speaker 1: and every time I made a new boy, my brain 1362 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 1: screams run. However, I do you have a cross on 1363 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: her friend? And I'd like to see if we could 1364 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: be something. He knows me extremely well, but I can't 1365 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 1: bring myself to even talk to him but anything of substance. 1366 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: It's all small talk and laughing. He's just as shy 1367 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 1: as me. It's like we're in a shy standoff. I 1368 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 1: can feel a connection, but neither of us are willing 1369 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 1: to do anything about it. So, guys, what the heck 1370 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,719 Speaker 1: do I do? Stay single forever? Hashtag one year old virgin. 1371 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 1: It's okay, just just go up and randomly kiss somebody. 1372 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: Ask your friend, just be okay? Do you think you 1373 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 1: and I could ever be more than what we are. 1374 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 1: I just say, make out with him, do it, Run 1375 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: up and kiss him. Take a leap. Take the leap. 1376 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I won't jump off the bridge. Don't be scared of 1377 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: the conversation. Yeah, you guys aren't gonna lose your friendship 1378 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: by having that conversation. Can I suggest something press I 1379 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 1: feel you're both so shy. I'm getting an idea that 1380 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 1: maybe you two have similar interests and if that's the case, 1381 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: maybe you buy two movie ticket to something. And then 1382 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: you pull a thing like, oh my gosh, my friend 1383 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: just totally bailed on me and I got the actor ticket. 1384 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Would you want to go? Because then it's like no pressure, 1385 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 1: it's no big deal. It seems spontaneous. And then you 1386 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: get the idea if he's interested, if he says no, 1387 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 1: maybe he's really really shy, but it could be kind 1388 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: of a spontaneous, organic way of doing something together. I 1389 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: love that. It's like the best idea ever. And then 1390 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: you just like slide your hand over like, oh sorry, 1391 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 1: I love you guys,