1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Our two Sean Hannity Show toll free. It is eight 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: hundred and nine point one Shawn, if you want to 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: be a part of the program. It is amazing the 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: times we're living in, and especially when we get into 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: the issue of illegal immigrants, all the crimes they've committed, 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: the thousands of criminals that have been deported and arrested 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: and soon to be deported by ICE agents that bravely 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: put their lives in harms way they've They've gotten known terrorists, murderers, 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: child molesters, rapists, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members, 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: I mean they are The list gets longer and longer 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: and longer, you know, and I keep reading every day. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Why would democrats ever be against this? 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: You know? 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: For example, New York Post today previously deported illegal named 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Rado Miguel Mora rap sheet includes attempted rape strangulation back 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: in the New York City courtroom last week on a 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: shoplifting charge, which, according to the Post was his second 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: arrest in the month of January, first being arrested for 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: crack possession. And the reason his most criminal case made 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: news is that New York City judge a New York 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: City judge allowed him to waltz right out of the courtroom. 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: This might be made aware of a federal criminal warrant 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: for this guy's arrest. This is now what the Democratic 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Party is embracing, aiding, abetting the worst of the worst. 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: And in spite of all of the courage, the thousands arrested, 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: that the millions now deported, especially when you have voluntary deportation, 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: it just the rhetoric continues Washington Examiner. Today, Democratic riot 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: culture is destroying politics and it's endangering lives. I mean, 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: this is the sad part of what people like Tampon 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Tim and you know, mayor smallfryar doing, is they are 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: inciting violence. Now there's another aspect to all of this 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: that I'm not going to let go. I mean, we 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: discussed it a little bit in the last hour, but 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: we're seeing more and more organization and funding New York 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: posts grassroots anti ice campaigns funded by left wing billionaire donors. 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: These are not organic protests. Rhode Island activists slamming adult 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: run nonprofit that promoted student led anti ice walkout. Deputy 38 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: ag is detailing a massive underground fraud network allegedly behind 39 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis anti ice push. This is Deputy Attorney General 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Todd Blanche who said all of this and if you 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: look at the weekend roundup, you had convicted murderers, child 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: sex abusers among the illegals nabbed by ice all across 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: the US, and they don't care, you know. Article in 44 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: the New York Post also today, Minnesota ignores a history 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: of warnings, you know, as they are setting up a 46 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: confrontation with the federal government. If they want that confrontation, 47 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: they can have it. And President Trump is saying, you know, 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: ask nice Leam will come in and help you out. 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: But you know, in the meantime, innocent people are victims 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: of all of this. Now, on the issue of Don Lemon, 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: I know he got a big applause at some Grammy 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: pre party that he was at, and he's now he 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: feels mortalized. He's gotten more notoriety publicity than he's ever 54 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: gotten in his life. I've looked at the videos. I 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: see him giving out coffee and donuts to the people 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: before they invade the church. I hear his commentary inside 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: the church. Doesn't sound like he's doing citizen journalism. To me, 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: sounds like he's an activist posing as a journalist Pam 59 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Bondi said something last night that really stuck with me, 60 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: and that is, oh, anyone could just start filming something 61 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: like a violation of the Face Act and preventing people 62 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: from practicing their faith, which is protected under the law, 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: and just say no, no, I'm being a citizen journalist. Okay, 64 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: we'll see how that works out in the end. You know, 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: here's a clip by the way of Don Lemon telling 66 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman that he's tired of talking about race because 67 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: racism is over. This is twenty fourteen. 68 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: It's probably get me in trouble. But I said to 69 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: some of my colleagues recently, said, so, I know that 70 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: it's an issue, but I've been it seems like every 71 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: single day on television, I'm talking about race, and it's 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: because of the news cycle. It's in the news. But 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: sometimes I get so tired of talking about it. I 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: want to I want to just go this is over. 75 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: Can we move on? 76 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: And if you talk about it, it exists. It's not 77 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: like it exists, and we don't refuse to talk about it. 78 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: But making it a bigger issue than it needs to be, 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: it's a problem we have. 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're listening to two very successful Americans that 81 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: happened to be African American, and America did not prevent 82 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: them from bringing their God given talents to fruition. Now 83 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: here's Don Lemon telling people to f off because he's 84 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: going to continue reporting. 85 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: This is what is what I have to say. 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 5: Off. 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 6: Whoever you think is going to stop me from reporting. 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: I'll say it off. 89 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 6: If you think you're going to stop me from reporting, 90 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 6: If you think that you are going to stop and 91 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 6: diminish my voice, then you have a as again as 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 6: my grandmother would say, you have another thing coming, because 93 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 6: that ain't ever going to stop. I don't care what 94 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 6: you try to do to me. I am a journalist 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 6: through and through and through. And I came from strong, 96 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 6: sturdy peasant stock that built this country for free. This 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 6: is my country, through and through. If anyone deserves the 98 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 6: freedom and the rights and the constitution of this country, 99 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 6: it is me, this little black boy from Louisiana that 100 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 6: came from enslaved people who had not always and still 101 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 6: don't always have the same freedoms as white people do 102 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 6: in this country. 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: All right, That was then, this is now. Katie Zakaria, 104 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Republican legal strategist Horace Cooper, legal commentator, author of the 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: bestseller Put y'all Back in Chains. How Biden's policies harm 106 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: African America, harm black is what it's called. Welcome both 107 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: of you, Katie, let's get your thoughts on all of this. 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: I look, I looked at the video. I want to 109 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: give Don Lemon actually the benefit of the doubt. He 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be acting in the capacity of somebody 111 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: that was reporting. He seemed to be part of the activism, 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: which is clear. You know, when we've gone over the 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: law many times on this program, it's a clear violation 114 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: of the Face Act. 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: Yes, and Don Lemon, I mean, he is so obviously 116 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 5: interfering in other people's right, which is a Face Act, 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 5: other people's right to exercise their first Amendment. And now 118 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: he's pulled back and wants to be this martyr for 119 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 5: everyone else, for the Democrat Party and not be held 120 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: responsible for his actions. Look, he knew what he was doing, 121 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: and he went in there with that exact intent. And 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: this will all likely get set out and done with 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: in the legal proceedings. But he had a clear intent. 124 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: I think this was even bigger than Sean. He wanted 125 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: to be the less martyr on this topic. And honestly, 126 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: he's doing a good job right now acting like it. 127 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: What do you what's your take on all of this 128 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: horror seen through the lens of race then and now. 129 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 7: Well, first, let me say that there appear to be 130 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 7: two crimes that mister Lemon has undertaken. One is a 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 7: crime against cable news with some of the lowest ratings possible, 132 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 7: getting him kicked off. But the second is his idea 133 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 7: that somehow, if you sit in the getaway car, drive 134 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 7: people to the bank, then get out of the car 135 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 7: and start filming it, you are not a bank ropper. 136 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 7: There's just no reasonable way for that to succeed in 137 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 7: a court of law. He can get all the accolades 138 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 7: that he wants if he isn't smart enough to understand 139 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 7: you can't break the law. And then the podcast that 140 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 7: kailp that has some sort of exemption, then it's probably 141 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 7: too silly or stupid for freedom. 142 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, look, everybody's entitled to their voice, but 143 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: the face Act is clear, Katie. And this is the point. 144 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: You can't interfere intimidate people inside a place of worship, 145 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: a house of worship, fast, what's fascinating, Katie to me 146 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: is the left Embrace the Face Act because it also 147 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: one of their provisions provides for the right of women 148 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: to be able to enter an abortion clinic unimpeded. They 149 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: like that part of it, but they don't like sections 150 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: two forty seven and two forty eight that protects religious freedom. 151 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: Correct, And we saw pro life activists jailed during the 152 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 5: Biden administration for that exact reason. But now they're going 153 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 5: to rally, as you just said, They're going to rally 154 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: behind Don Lemon because he is in a church and 155 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: they this is this is them deciding to pick and shoes. 156 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: This is symptomatic across the country sanctuary laws. We want 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: to pick in shoes, which laws we want to follow, 158 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 5: which laws apply to us, and which laws we don't. 159 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 5: We want to pick and shoes how we want to 160 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 5: persecute the president, persecute pro life activists, but we don't 161 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: want those same laws to apply to us. This is 162 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 5: the Democrat Party right in front of us. But they think, 163 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 5: and they continue to say, they are actually thinking they 164 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 5: are above the law. 165 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: Here, Sean, Well, it's going to be interesting. Now he 166 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: does have a good attorney, and I know you know 167 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: him Harris Abby Lowell. Although Abby lol did represent Hunter 168 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: Biden that didn't work out particularly well. But he's want 169 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: of Washington's best attorneys, there's no doubt about it. And 170 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: the argument is going to be that he was acting 171 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: in the role as a quote journalist, as he's saying here. 172 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: So it's really going to come down to I guess 173 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,359 Speaker 1: a jury, I guess interpreting what they see his commentary, 174 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: him giving out coffee donuts, and whether or not it 175 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: was an active participant and part of this radical activist 176 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: group or not. To me, it's clear, and that doesn't 177 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: really matter to me how much applause he gets at 178 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: the Grammys, that's meaningless. I think what's going to matter 179 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: is how other people view it, and you know, when 180 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: they are read. The actual law I think is very 181 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: clear and transparent. 182 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 7: So abi Ole is probably going to work with Don 183 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 7: Lemon to try to create the impression that race has 184 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 7: played some issue here, so presumably a jury might be 185 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 7: more sympathetic. But let's talk about the First Amendment. There's 186 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 7: another part of the First Amendment, which is speech. When 187 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 7: people showed up at abortion clinics and prayed in front 188 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 7: of those abortion clinics, maybe so loud that some people 189 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 7: were dissuaded. The Biden administration had those people prosecuted. There 190 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 7: was no this sense called well, I'm exercising my First 191 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 7: Amendment by protected right while I am standing near this clinic. 192 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 7: As you point out, the statute statute also covers churches. 193 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 7: There simply is no protection. I actually wonder if the 194 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 7: lowal process is going to be heavy Little's process is 195 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 7: going to be to sort of negotiate some none prison punishment, 196 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 7: because this case is going to be very, very difficult, 197 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 7: if not impossible, to win in a court of law. 198 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: The language, Katie is by force, threat of force, or 199 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: physical obstruction, intentionally injuring, interfering, or attempting to interfere with 200 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: any person who is lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise 201 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: their First Amendment right of religious for them at a 202 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: place of religious worship, such as a church, synagogue, mosque, 203 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: or other house of worship, intentionally damaging or destroying the 204 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: property or a place of worship. Now, one woman broke 205 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: her arm, Congregants were not allowed to leave the church. 206 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: Moms and dads were not allowed to go down to 207 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: where their kids were. You know, in the church. You know, 208 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: they have an area where kids, you know, stay during 209 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: and play during service and maybe learn religious lessons. They 210 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to retrieve their kids. That seems to meet 211 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: the definition up by every standard, every single standard. 212 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: And when you look at the video footage and when 213 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 5: you hear the testimonials of these people who not only 214 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 5: did they break, did they go into the church and 215 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: interfere with the right to worship, the interference of not 216 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 5: being able to, as you just said, obtain their children. 217 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 5: And then now so they were blocking them from being 218 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: able to go, they were keeping them away from getting 219 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 5: their children. John. I think for this case particularly, this 220 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: highlights exactly what Pambondy, what they need to bring out 221 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 5: is that there is a first amended violation and if 222 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: not Don Lemon, it is that the church, congregants and 223 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 5: parishioners who were at the service to worship. And I 224 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,239 Speaker 5: think it's actually a pretty clear case. I might disagree 225 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 5: on that. I think it's going to be very, very 226 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: very clear for Don Lemon. 227 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: I think it's clear. The problem as hars is, I 228 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: don't trust any judge in this country. 229 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think we. 230 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 7: Are increasingly finding out that when a judge walks out 231 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 7: to the edge. We have to go through the tedious 232 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 7: process of appealing that decision and if necessarily, taking it 233 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 7: to the Supreme Court. Appellate courts have been smacking down 234 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 7: these district court judges, and that's also true for the 235 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 7: Supreme Court. I think ultimately what we're going to see 236 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 7: is the other individuals that were with Don Lemons are 237 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 7: going to be convicted. And if they're convicted, there isn't 238 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 7: some so called journalistic broadcast exemption to the Face Act. 239 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: There simply are no exemptions that are going to occur. 240 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 7: I think it's highly likely, as I said, that he 241 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 7: will negotiate a plea deal so that because he's better 242 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 7: than everybody else, that he could find a way not 243 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 7: to actually have to go to prison. But I don't 244 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 7: see him walking away with no conviction on this whatsoever. 245 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: Look, look, the penalty is not that severe unless I 246 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: guess if there's any physical altercation, although the one woman 247 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: did break her arm, not on think it's going to 248 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: be a big deal. But I tend to agree with you. 249 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to be you know, 250 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: pushed off to the side. I don't think this DOJ 251 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: is going to allow this to happen anyway. Appreciate both 252 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: of you. Horaschooper, thank you, Katie Zakaria, thank you. Eight 253 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: hundred and nine four one, Shawn is number. We'll get 254 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: to your phone calls coming up, coming up in mere moments. 255 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, the the rhetorica the left gets more insane 256 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: by the minute. But I'm okay with this, and the 257 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: reason I'm okay with it. If Democrats, as I was 258 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,479 Speaker 1: saying yesterday, want to be the party of defund dismantle, 259 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: no bel, reimagine the police. If they want to be 260 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: the party of defunding ice, I'm okay with it. If 261 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: they want to be the party the votes for the 262 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: largest tax increase in history, and Republicans vote for the 263 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: largest tax cut in history. Republicans stand up for working 264 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: men and women, no tax on tips or overtime. They 265 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 1: stand up for the elderly, no tax on social security. 266 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: They're working to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in in 267 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, our disastrous healthcare system, which is good for 268 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: every American. That means more money will be available for 269 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: every American. If they want to cling to their climate 270 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: alarmists and try and force cars into people's driveways that 271 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: people don't want. Let them be that party, and the 272 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: Republican Party will be the Party of freedom. And you know, 273 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: here's an example, Delia Ramirez, Illinois. ICE will be abolished, 274 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: not if there'll be aboulish, will be abolished, DHS will 275 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: be dismantled. 276 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: Listen. 277 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 8: But also, Americans are past reforms of a department that 278 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 8: has used your taxpayer dollars to execute people in broad daylight. 279 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 8: Here's the bottom line, folks, that I'm getting off before 280 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 8: and Bonnie pushes me out. We must have accountability and 281 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 8: we must bring justice to every fashion in the administration. 282 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 8: And that includes Christinome, that includes Stephen Miller, and that 283 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 8: includes Tom Homan. I will be abolished, DHS will be dismantled, 284 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 8: and together we. 285 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 6: Will get it done. 286 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: You go, you get that done. You fight hard for that. 287 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: That's my advice to you. All right, let's get to 288 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: our phones. New Joysey, Phil, Hi, Sean. 289 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad it's working out for you in Florida. But 290 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: let me ask you this. You're from Nassau County originally, right. 291 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: I am Bruce Blakeman, by the way, as the county executive. 292 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: He's now going to run for governor. I'm very fond 293 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: of Bruce Blakeman. I know him personally. I saw him 294 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: at the Fox Nation Patriot Awards. Like him a lot. 295 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what chun you're from. Let me 296 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: ask you this. If Long Island and I'm what I 297 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: mean by that is specifically Nasau and Suffolk County that 298 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: where its own state, would you've considered staying there? 299 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: Maybe? 300 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I've been hearing your show, and I've hearn a 301 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: lot of other people's show the problem that's going on. 302 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be honest now that I am really 303 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: through and through a Floridian at this point. And that 304 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: may sound strange to people. 305 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: Now. 306 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Remember I lived in I was born and raised in 307 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: Long Island. I lived in Rhode Island five years, California 308 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: five years. I was a radio nomad Huntsville, Alabama, Atlanta, Georgia, 309 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: back to New York when I started at Fox when 310 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: they went on the air, and I've been down here 311 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: in my third year and I like it here the best. 312 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: I did like my place in Long Island. But you know, 313 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: I had to sell everything, get rid of every association 314 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: with New York because they I talked to a guy. 315 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: He's been audited for ten years by New York tax 316 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: officials that harass him. And if this happens, I'm making 317 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: this the biggest public issue ever because I am gone. 318 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 319 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: And by the way, as far as I'm concerned, once 320 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: you leave a state, that's it. That state he left 321 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: has no this is coming out well it should be. Now. 322 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: Some people try to thwart the rules, and they don't 323 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: do it the right way. But I hired an army 324 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: of accountants and lawyers and this is all they do. 325 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: And if the amount of money I had to spend 326 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: to leave and leave cleanly is you wouldn't believe it. 327 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: It's insane, of course. 328 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: And the point and also because the one I wanted 329 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: to each out was because of the problem I would 330 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: say with New York City, New York State and other 331 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: states like Illinois are the big cities. New York State, 332 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: New York City is the real problem when you think 333 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: about it. I mean, let's put it this way. 334 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Look, Nassau County also has high taxes. Now, Bruce Blakeman's 335 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: done a lot to improve it, but it's not Florida. 336 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, let me give you an example. I mean, 337 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Florida has some of the lowest gas taxes. They have 338 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: zero income taxes, they have zero estate taxes. You know, 339 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: New York State has ten percent of state tax After 340 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: you paid money, they get another bite of the apple. 341 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: You have to pay to die. Nassau County, where I lived, 342 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: the second highest property tax county in the country outside 343 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: of Westchester, which is also a nice area. If you 344 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: look at the map of New York, it's mostly red. 345 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: My biggest problem became it was untenable for me. Like 346 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: Fox has bureaus all over the country, it just became 347 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: untenable for me to be in New York City. I mean, 348 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: I needed a security guard to go to a restaurant. 349 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to live my life that way. 350 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 7: No. 351 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Never, But if they did this, this is just I 352 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: mean me, I'm thinking hypothetically. But if they made New 353 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: York City its own state, Long Island it's own state, 354 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: and the rest of it may be upstate New York, Hall, Look, 355 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: New Amsterdam, New Albany, whatever, and then you go up 356 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: for other states like Illinois. If they split off Chicago, 357 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: made that its own state and let the rest of 358 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: Illinois alone. Maybe maybe with a problem in Minneapolis, with 359 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: Minnesota at the twin city is there where its own state. 360 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking outside the box there. But then you 361 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: go out west with the coast. 362 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm all in favor of California secid, Yes, Ventura, 363 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: Wan's Minnesota to secede. 364 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean splitting up like other words, Eastern California. There's 365 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: a representative out their named James Gallagher. 366 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: I could see this happening. I mean, we're gonna have reapportionment. 367 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a new census. New York, New Jersey, Illinois, California, 368 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: they're all losing massive amounts of congressional seats. It's going 369 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: to reconfigure the map because of mass migration out of 370 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: these places and the policies have pushed people away. It's 371 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: very interesting. When I did run into Chuck Schumer. I 372 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: was in New York like two days last year. That 373 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: was it, you know, to visit my sister and my family, 374 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: and otherwise I don't go there. I mean, this is 375 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: this idea that you spend half a year in a 376 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: day in Florida and you're considered a resident is a joke. 377 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: It's not even close. I know people that have been audited. 378 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Where is your heart off, you still own property there, 379 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: if you're a member of clubs there. I mean, they 380 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: got this whole checklist that is insane that you know 381 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: that they used to go after you. And I am 382 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: just telling you have to make a clean break if 383 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: you want to do it. There are more New New 384 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: York tax agents in my free state of Florida than 385 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: in New York because they don't like they chase everyone away. 386 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: Now I run into Chuck Schumer. I said, who's your 387 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: favorite cable news host. He looks up and he goes, oh, no, 388 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: not you. It was funny, and you know, we're sitting there, 389 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: we're talking, and I said, I bet you you should 390 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: be happy I don't live here anymore. He goes, actually, 391 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm not. And I think it was since here then 392 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: I interviewed Comrade Deblasio and he's like, you need to 393 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: come back to New York. We want you back in 394 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: New York. And I'm like, oh, they don't like it. 395 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: They want the money, but they don't. But the people 396 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: don't like conservatives. They just don't. In Florida, honestly, the 397 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: people are salt of the earth. South Carolina salt of 398 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: the Earth. North Carolina salt of the Earth, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, 399 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: you name it. I don't have the same issues that 400 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: I had in New York City. Now, you're right, it 401 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: was better for me in Nasau Nasau County. But it's 402 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: still you know, pretty You still have state taxes, you 403 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: still have a lot of regulation, and I don't really 404 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: like cold weather, to be honest. 405 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: But here that's another point too. A lot of people 406 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: run those states are from the big cities, like Chuck Schumer, 407 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: even Andrew Cuomo, Mario Cuoma, who is a live I mean, 408 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: they're all out west. You had Kamala Harris, she's from 409 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: the Bay Area, you had you know what I'm saying. 410 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: It's just they're not even from the people in the 411 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: rural areas have no representation and they have to. I mean, 412 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: they're dominated by the people in the bigger cities. Like 413 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: in my case now I live suburban about ten miles 414 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: outside of Philadelphia, which isn't too bad. It could be worse. 415 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: I think Camden, New Jersey, is the problem here at Successpool. 416 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: But if you go up north, you're near Newark, you 417 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: near a lot of those metro areas outside New York 418 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: City that those are the real problems are a lot 419 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: of the people who run for governor whatever are from 420 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: those portions, and I feel like we have no representation. 421 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: You get further to the south, it's a little better. 422 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: If you go to the north northern part of the state, 423 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: it's not too bad, But I mean, it's just you 424 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: can't seem to get That's what I'm saying if you 425 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: I'm not saying every state has to do this. 426 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 7: Now. 427 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: Virginia split up years ago with West Virginia and so on. 428 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: But that's just something I was thinking about. And by 429 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: the way, they ought to bring and that's I don't 430 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: want to bring it up too long. I never hear 431 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: anyone talk about maybe a bounce budget amendment, a line 432 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: item VITA or anything like that. 433 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: Look, I'm only going to tell you this so you 434 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: you really understand it. And I mentioned it earlier. There's 435 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: an article out today California has this referendum that's coming 436 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: out and it's going to retroactively if it's passed from 437 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: till January. Is going to put a wealth tax on billionaires. 438 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: They're all leaving. And there was an article in the 439 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: New York Post today and it quotes Citadel founder Ken Griffin. 440 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: He's moved his entire operation down here. He's a multi 441 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: multi billionaire, Steve Ross, multi multi billionaire, and they're encouraging 442 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: businesses and CEOs to relocate to my state, Florida. And quote, 443 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: the only place a CEO and founder can can scale 444 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: from ten employees to ten thousand will be in South Florida, 445 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: said Steve Ross. He's not wrong, and it's already happening. 446 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I see it happening, and I'm just telling people there 447 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: is a better way, a better life. And I know 448 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: for a lot of people change as hard. It's not 449 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: for me. I've done it my whole life. But I'm 450 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: just telling you it's. 451 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: I just like it. 452 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: Look, there's a reason I've had property down here for 453 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: thirty years. It's not like Florida is new to me. 454 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: That's my vacation point. But I'm going to roll along. 455 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being with us eight hundred and nine 456 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: four one, Sean, if you want to be a part 457 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: of the program. Right back to our busy phones. Wayne 458 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, Hey Wayne, how are you glad you called? 459 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 7: Sir? 460 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 9: Hey Sean, thanks for taking my call. Originally from I 461 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 9: would tell Phil move, I'd like to talk about Don Lemon. 462 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: By the way, in Pennsylvania, it's okay. Linda lives in 463 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and it's just getting worse. 464 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 9: It depends on where you live in Pennsylvania. I'm in 465 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 9: Central PA and it's great out here. So Sean, don 466 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 9: Lemon said he was a Christian. Now, if he is 467 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 9: a Christian, why does he barge into that church? He 468 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 9: wasn't that parking lot. He was definitely in on it 469 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 9: when he rolled up to the church. He was outside 470 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 9: with his crew. He could have waited until the congregation 471 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 9: got out of their services, but no, he went in there. 472 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 9: What I'd like to ask you, Sean, is do we 473 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 9: know if that was live or did they that later? 474 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 9: And did they edit what we have seen? 475 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: I don't think. 476 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought there'd be any consequences. And 477 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: the most incriminating evidence that will be if assuming that 478 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: if this doesn't get negotiated out or a plea agreement 479 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: doesn't get made, and I would expect Abby Lowell probably 480 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: will go in that direction, and probably Don Lemon won't 481 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: like the advice Abby gives him as my guest, but 482 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: it would be in his best interest to listen to Abby, 483 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: who I do have a lot of respect for, is 484 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: that they just thought they could get away with it, 485 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: and they just thought that this wouldn't apply to them. 486 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: The Face Act I read it in the last half hours. 487 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: It is clear, crystal clear what it is, what it says, 488 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: and it's very obvious in these videos to me that 489 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: he was a part of this group that was obstructing 490 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: the worship service. But you know, let the jury decide. 491 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: It's not up for me to decide by videos. I 492 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: don't like to rush the judgment. I don't even wish 493 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: this on Donald. I have nothing against Don Lemon. He's 494 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: allowed to be a liberal talk showist like he was 495 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: on CNN. Stop calling yourself a journalist. That's my biggest 496 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: issue with him. He's not a journalist anyway. I appreciate 497 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: the call, my friend. Thank you. Eight hundred and nine 498 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: four one Seawan. If you want to be a part 499 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: of the program,