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Speaker 1: Good evening, Stinchfield Army.

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Speaker 2: My name is Benny Harmony, and tonight i'm filling in

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Speaker 2: for Grant Stinchfield as we continue here on Real America's

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Speaker 2: Voice to follow this capital shooting which has left two

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Speaker 2: a targeted attack, and we must know that now little

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Speaker 1: He could be an Afghan national.

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Speaker 2: Now police are saying he was also shot and being

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Speaker 1: Here's FBI Director Cash Betel, and.

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Speaker 3: Make no mistake, they will be brought to justice since

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Speaker 3: this is an assault on a federal law enforcement officer.

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Speaker 3: This will be treated at the federal level as an

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Speaker 3: assault on a federal law enforcement officer. The FBI will

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Speaker 3: And we're thankful for the mayor's assistance in this matter.

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Speaker 3: The Metropolitan Police Department and their skills in investigating homicides

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Speaker 3: and gun shootings in this city is exceptional.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is a developing story which we will keep

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Speaker 2: from our Alago, our host of Stinchfield tonight, Grant Stinchfield.

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Speaker 4: Good evening, Mattie, thank you, and I want to give

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Speaker 4: and I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: So I am at mari A Llago.

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Speaker 4: I got to spend some time with the President last night,

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Speaker 4: here's what I love. When something like this happens, President

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Speaker 5: He moves forward.

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Speaker 4: So what we're learning right now is at about five

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Speaker 5: This is the double down scenario.

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Speaker 4: This is basically President Trump selling whoever's behind this attack,

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Speaker 4: and we have this one suspect that is in custody

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Speaker 4: as you mentioned, like possibly and Afterhan National I have

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Speaker 5: Halloween meet America safe again. So yeah, we's bringing in

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Speaker 4: More National Guard troops to Washington, DC, and many I

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Speaker 4: You know, the city is around the country where President

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Speaker 4: And then I see this this this reporter on ms

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Speaker 5: All of it's disgusting. You'll see this left wing media

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Speaker 4: By bringing the National Guard troops in the cities like Washington,

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Speaker 4: In fact, I think what you're going to see is

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Speaker 4: So if we can Spacefield's Army, pray for these National

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Speaker 5: Pray for this nation as he tried.

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Speaker 4: To make America great again, and of course any make America.

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Speaker 2: Safety absolutely and great. You know, we were on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I point back to the video that

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Speaker 4: All of this inspires this behavior on those on the left,

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Speaker 5: Guard troops are proud to serve and keep these cities safe.

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Speaker 4: And I can tell you being here at Mari Loango,

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Speaker 5: But I talked to these Secret Service agents.

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Speaker 4: I am sure that all of those maculin Bard troops

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Speaker 4: you what, Manny, I'm great.

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Speaker 2: Well, Grant, thank you so much, and we will keep

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Speaker 5: You, thank you so much for helping me out tonight

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Speaker 2: Now I would like to turn the conversation to the

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Speaker 1: Good evening, Good.

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Speaker 2: So, Jonathan, tell us, with your background as an agent,

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, they have to identify this individual,

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Speaker 6: There's really not much more law enforcement you could bring

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm having time in Afghanistan and having monitored and

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Speaker 9: They do not want to you know, provide information out

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Speaker 9: There there are some legal avenues, but we then run

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Speaker 7: But there are tools in the box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, colonel keeps post it if you hear anymore.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, CBS is currently reporting the identity of the shooter

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Speaker 2: That his name and he is a twenty nine year

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Speaker 1: Now, his name is Ramula Lachinwaw and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sure I butchered that, but we will get some proper

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Speaker 1: We have Colonel Rob Maynus A good evening, Rob.

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Speaker 1: So Rob.

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Speaker 2: They are calling this an attack. We've talked about this

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Speaker 10: Well, what it has all the harmarks of a targeted attack,

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Speaker 10: off an attack because they've probably been focused right on

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Speaker 10: this target for quite a while, and now they see

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Speaker 10: an opportunity and an opening because half of the country's leadership,

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Speaker 10: not just citizens yelling on social media, but leadership, political leadership,

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Speaker 10: is saying that they're re targets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that rhetoric that we are hearing just you know,

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Speaker 2: like the people calling the National Guard Nazis, that's really

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Speaker 2: contributing to this violence. But Colonel as a veteran yourself,

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Speaker 2: what was your reaction when you first heard about this story?

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Speaker 2: Bring us inside your mind.

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Speaker 10: Sadly, I'm not surprised, and I'm not surprised as a

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Speaker 10: jihadist either, because we have been those of us that

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Speaker 10: have fought in this war and are still on active

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Speaker 10: duty and have retired from the US Armed Forces, former

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Speaker 10: intelligence officers that have run intelligence and surveillance on Islamis

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Speaker 10: around the world, know that there are tens of thousands,

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Speaker 10: tens of thousands of jihadists in this country, and they

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Speaker 10: are even getting into political offices, and nobody in power

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Speaker 10: is listening and taking the appropriate action things that need

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Speaker 10: to happen. Deport all of these people, President Trump, you

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Speaker 10: want to do massive deportations, get rid of every Islamist

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Speaker 10: that's in this country. They are not compatible, even the

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Speaker 10: naturalized ones, with the Constitution of the United States. Sharia

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Speaker 10: law doesn't acknowledge natural rights and the inalienable right to life, liberty,

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Speaker 10: and the pursuit of happiness, and the rights of women

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Speaker 10: and children.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't do it.

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Speaker 10: They can't take an oath to the Constitution of the

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Speaker 10: United States, as is required for a naturalized citizen and

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Speaker 10: be honest about it. Deport every single one of them.

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Speaker 10: That's what's going through my mind. Let's get people that

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Speaker 10: are working for you to do this job, and if

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Speaker 10: they refuse to do it, fire them and hire people

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Speaker 10: that will get this type of job done. The other

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Speaker 10: thing that needs to be done is all of the

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Speaker 10: resistors that are still in the United States Government have

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Speaker 10: got to be cleaned out this moment, mister President. This

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Speaker 10: moment requires something much more massive than even your initial

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Speaker 10: entry back into office, with all these wonderful executive orders

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Speaker 10: that people like Russ Vote have put together for you,

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Speaker 10: and you've signed in the hundreds more rapidly than anybody else.

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Speaker 10: But this moment requires an even greater effort, something like

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Speaker 10: the Manhattan Project that put the atomic weapons together in

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Speaker 10: World War Two. And it's got to be put together quickly.

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Speaker 10: And we've got to clean the United States Government out

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Speaker 10: so that we can get the job done for the

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Speaker 10: American people. And first of all and foremost is our

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Speaker 10: internal security. We are under attack. There's an attempted color

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Speaker 10: revolution going on. We don't know who exactly is involved

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Speaker 10: in it, but we have evidence. We have billboards going

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Speaker 10: up around our military basis asking soldiers and sailors, airman, marines,

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Speaker 10: guardians and coast guardsmen. The question the orders of the

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Speaker 10: President of the United States. We have US senators and

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Speaker 10: retired senior military officers putting videos out doing the same thing,

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Speaker 10: and they're all funded by non governmental organizations that probably

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Speaker 10: have tax dollars coming front to them, like organizations like

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Speaker 10: what USAID used to do and probably still does, only covertly.

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Speaker 10: Now we've got to get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 10: You need people working for you that will do it,

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Speaker 10: and they need to get on it tonight before midnight.

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Speaker 7: But first they poured all these Islamist every single one

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Speaker 7: of them.

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Speaker 2: Colonel I'm glad you brought up the national security aspect

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Speaker 2: of this and the open borders, because as a member

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Speaker 2: of the military, I really want to highlight our servicemen

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Speaker 2: and women after this tragedy occurred.

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Speaker 1: When you become a member of the force, you take

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Speaker 1: an oath.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of these Democrats are coming out saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: these National Guard don't want to be there, and they

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Speaker 2: hate President Trump and they're just as mad as we are.

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Speaker 1: But that's not the truth, is it.

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Speaker 7: No, it's not the truth. I've talked to many of them.

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Speaker 10: As a matter of fact, I have a nephew that's

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Speaker 10: in another city I'm not going to name the location

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Speaker 10: right now, that's deployed there and going to be there

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Speaker 10: until the end of February, and he loves it. And

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Speaker 10: I've talked to his parents and they're very proud of him.

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Speaker 10: And people that I've seen talked to guardsmen in DC,

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Speaker 10: and I've talked to guardsmen in DC very recently, they

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Speaker 10: are very proud to be there. Down here in Mississippi,

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Speaker 10: we put a large contingent into the District of Columbia.

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Speaker 10: We were very proud to send them, and each and

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Speaker 10: every one of them agreed with this order that it

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Speaker 10: needed to be done, that it was lawful, and that's

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Speaker 10: the right thing to do.

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Speaker 7: And you're right.

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Speaker 10: We take an oath to the Constitution of the United States,

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Speaker 10: not a president, and there's nothing wrong with reminding service

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Speaker 10: members of that. There's also nothing wrong with reminding them

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Speaker 10: that you're not supposed to follow and unlawful order.

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Speaker 7: We teach that to everybody.

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Speaker 10: What's wrong and what's going on on the Democrat side,

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Speaker 10: especially from their retired military officers like Mark Kelly of Arizona,

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Speaker 10: is that they're not saying what orders explicitly are unlawful.

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Speaker 10: They're saying things like America's military is being pitted against

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Speaker 10: the American citizen. That puts a target on these National

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Speaker 10: guardsmen that were shot tonight and are in they're fighting

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Speaker 10: for their lives in a hospital bed right there. They're

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Speaker 10: saying things like there's a lack of trust with America's government,

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Speaker 10: implying that President Trump is generating this lack of trust,

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Speaker 10: and they're sowing seeds of doubt. And these billboards that

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Speaker 10: ask soldiers that are in the airborne at Fort Bragg,

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Speaker 10: did you join the airborne to provide security for ice?

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Speaker 10: Sowing seeds of doubt amongst the military. I'll remind them

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Speaker 10: you took an oath to the Constitution. You're supposed to

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Speaker 10: follow lawful orders for enlisted Mini wueis you took an

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Speaker 10: oath to follow the orders of the President of the

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Speaker 10: United States and the officers appointed above you. You must

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Speaker 10: do it and assume they're lawful. First, execute the orders.

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Speaker 10: If they come out to be unlawful, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 10: Like with the COVID vaccine mandate, unlawful order once that was.

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Speaker 7: Found to be unlawful.

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Speaker 10: You will find video of me encouraging people to acknowledge

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Speaker 10: that that's an unlawful order, especially the officers that we're

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Speaker 10: supposed to be implementing it.

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Speaker 7: And unfortunately this crowd ever said a word.

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Speaker 1: Well, colonel, we have about a minute left.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that you would like to say to

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Speaker 2: all those active active members in our armed forces? Words

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Speaker 2: of motivation, encouragement, and just to just to let them

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Speaker 2: know that you understand and you're here for them.

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Speaker 1: What do you have to say?

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Speaker 10: Well, tomorrow, all of America gives thanks for everything that

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Speaker 10: we have. We still live in a great country, folks,

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Speaker 10: regardless of all our problems, and we are very proud

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Speaker 10: of you. We support, We're to you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 10: Don't question the President of the United States. He's your

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Speaker 10: commander in chief. He hasn't given one unlawful order that

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Speaker 10: I've seen yet, and I look at each and every

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Speaker 10: one of them every time one comes out, stay in

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Speaker 10: the fight, take care of yourselves, and take care of

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Speaker 10: your American citizens.

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Speaker 2: Colonel Rob Mainiz, thank you so much. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: all the information you share with us tonight, and happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Happy Thanksgiving, and.

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Speaker 1: Keeping on this story when we come back.

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Speaker 2: Former police lieutenant and retired US and Evy intel officer

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Speaker 2: Stephen Rodgers will.

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Speaker 1: Join us up next.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Stinchfield tonight. I am Benny Harmony filling

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Speaker 2: in for Grant this evening, and we have some breaking

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Speaker 2: news coming out of DC a shooting where two National

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Speaker 2: Guardsmen were shot and critically injured in an ambush style attack. Now,

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Speaker 2: the identity of the suspect has been revealed as Ramulah Lochinwall.

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Speaker 2: He is an Afghan national who entered the US in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and he used a handgun. We're getting

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Speaker 2: reports that that is how he carried out this attack,

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Speaker 2: law enforcement sources have told CBS News.

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Speaker 1: Now on with me now to talk about.

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Speaker 2: All of this is a former police lieutenant and retired

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Speaker 2: US Navy intel officer Stephen Rogers.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, absolutely so, Stephen, what do you

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Speaker 2: make of this reporting that it was an Afghan national

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Speaker 2: that carried out this attack.

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Speaker 11: Well, it goes to show you that there are people

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Speaker 11: in this country that simply are here for one purpose,

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Speaker 11: and one purpose only to hurt our nation. And let's

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Speaker 11: droll down to one of the major reasons why, at

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Speaker 11: least I believe that we're facing threats from individuals who

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Speaker 11: don't belong in this country, who came here illegally. And

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Speaker 11: it all points in the direction of Titians who are

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Speaker 11: demonizing our police, they're demonizing our military, they're demonizing the

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Speaker 11: president of the United States of America. These politicians all

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Speaker 11: of this, of what they're saying, they own a lot

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Speaker 11: of what's going on today with regard to this violence.

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Speaker 11: And they've got to understand that very bad people hear

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Speaker 11: their words, but those bad people are also acting on

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Speaker 11: their words. So we have to make that very clear

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Speaker 11: that yet there are people in this country they have

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Speaker 11: no use for our constitution, no use for our law,

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Speaker 11: and when they hear these politicians with their nonsensical, violent rhetoric,

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Speaker 11: it's almost a stamp of approval as to what they're

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Speaker 11: planning to do.

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Speaker 2: And Stephen, does this change the approach that law enforcement

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Speaker 2: will take now because this was a foreign national what

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Speaker 2: does that process look like?

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Speaker 11: Well, I'll tell you what's needed to be changed, and

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Speaker 11: the President of the United States is already doing that. Look,

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Speaker 11: when I hear these people get on these mainstream media

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Speaker 11: network saying that people in Washington they're upset. They don't

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Speaker 11: want the National Guard. There other cities they don't want

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Speaker 11: the military. I like to know what planet they're living on,

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Speaker 11: because I've been to Washington several times. I've been to

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Speaker 11: New York City, I've been all over the place, and

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Speaker 11: I've heard people say, we want our we want to

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Speaker 11: be protected. We don't mind having the military come here

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Speaker 11: and protect us because the police can't protect us. And

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Speaker 11: they're not blaming the cops, they're blaming the politicians. They're

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Speaker 11: blaming the judges, they're blaming the courts or letting these

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Speaker 11: maniacs back out on the streets. So the president has

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Speaker 11: already began that process in order to do what to

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Speaker 11: protect the people of this country.

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Speaker 7: Look at it.

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Speaker 11: I'm a retired military commander, a retired detective Bureau lieutenant

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Speaker 11: commander of a police department, and for forty years, you

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Speaker 11: know what, I've seen every imaginable program that this government

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Speaker 11: created to prevent some of the things we're seeing today,

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Speaker 11: it hasn't worked. But now what the President's doing, it's.

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Speaker 7: Going to work.

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Speaker 2: And so what about the islam aspect that we're seeing

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Speaker 2: in this now? If this is shown to be an

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Speaker 2: Islamic attack. Does that indicate to.

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Speaker 1: You that there are much more than just a loan

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Speaker 1: shooter in this well that.

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Speaker 7: Remains to be seen.

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Speaker 11: I was very concerned when I was assigned to the

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Speaker 11: National Joint Teisim Task Force in Washington, DC years ago

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Speaker 11: that a lot of individuals crossing the border were crossing

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Speaker 11: this border to create cells around the country, and it

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Speaker 11: wasn't a matter of if they would attack, but it's

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Speaker 11: a matter of when. So here we see someone who

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Speaker 11: happens to be Islamic, who's created a situation here that's

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Speaker 11: causing us to ask those questions. Is this wider and

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Speaker 11: greater than what we've seen happen today? And that's where

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Speaker 11: the investigation is going to be pointed at. Is there

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Speaker 11: anyone else involved? They say there was not another shooter, fine,

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Speaker 11: but was there someone involved in planning? How did this

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Speaker 11: individual get a gun? Was there anyone else who had

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Speaker 11: knowledge that this individual was going to do this? All

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Speaker 11: this will come out in investigation. Look, I have a

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Speaker 11: tremendous hope that the FBI and the other law enforcement

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Speaker 11: agencies will get to the bottom of this sooner or later,

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Speaker 11: But we don't have those answers until they get the

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Speaker 11: answers with regard to their investigation.

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Speaker 2: And Lieutenant President Trump, he's touted that this idea of

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Speaker 2: bringing the National Guard and law enforcement to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: Is to bring a homing presence to make citizens know

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Speaker 2: that they are safe and they don't need to worry

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Speaker 2: about gang violence. Do you agree with this assessment and

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Speaker 2: do you think that it's done its job to this

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Speaker 2: point until the tragedy today.

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Speaker 11: Well, I've been to Washington several times. I'm down there

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Speaker 11: several times a month, and I've seen the difference between

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Speaker 11: the time I went there when the National Guard was

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Speaker 11: not there and now that the National Guard is there.

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Speaker 11: And I'll tell you, I was curious about the citizens

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Speaker 11: and I was wondering, I wonder what they're thinking about.

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Speaker 11: They love the idea that the President has taken that action.

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Speaker 11: And it's not only they love the idea in Washington,

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Speaker 11: across the country. I'd like some of these politicians, before

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Speaker 11: they open their mouths, is to do what I used

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Speaker 11: to do. Send a police car, go into some of

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Speaker 11: these high crime areas, try to walk down the street

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Speaker 11: with a child without the fear of getting shot. These

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Speaker 11: individuals doing all this demonizing and criticizing, they're serving no

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Speaker 11: purpose but to enbold the bad guys. Well, we have

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Speaker 11: to start showing the good guys that we're going to

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Speaker 11: protect them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lieutenant, do you have any final words you'd like

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Speaker 2: to share with our viewers today in regards to these

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Speaker 2: attacks that we're seeing on American citizens. After Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: and now these two National guardsmen, how do we put

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Speaker 2: an end to this?

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Speaker 7: Yes? Two things.

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Speaker 11: Number One, we have to keep our nation in prayer.

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Speaker 11: I believe in the power of prayer. I believe that

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Speaker 11: God has blessed this nation and will continue to do

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Speaker 11: so as long as we focus on him. Number Two,

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Speaker 11: it's very important we get involved. I've said over and

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Speaker 11: over again. We have a constitution, we have a process

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Speaker 11: to remove people from office.

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Speaker 7: It's called election Day.

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Speaker 11: It's time we rise up within the framework of the law,

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Speaker 11: no violence, none of that stuff, and get to the polls.

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Speaker 7: Get people who are.

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Speaker 11: Going to run for office, who are going to back

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Speaker 11: policies that are of the people, by the people, and

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Speaker 11: the four of the people, God and country together, there's

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Speaker 11: a solution.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I love that and thank You'll be praying for you

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Speaker 2: and lieutenant, just thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 2: this evening to discuss this tragedy that occurred.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, and I salute you for the

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Speaker 7: work you're doing. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: And when we come back, we'll hear from an active

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Speaker 2: member of the West Virginia National Guard.

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned. That's up next.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Stinsfield tonight. I'm Benny Harmony filling in

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Speaker 2: for Grant. So we have some more on this breaking

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Speaker 2: news out of DC, this shooting story which left two

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Speaker 2: West Virginia National Guardsmen critically injured. Now, the suspect is

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Speaker 2: a twenty nine year old Afghan migrant. We have come

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Speaker 2: to this knowledge, and he's now reported to have entered

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Speaker 2: the US in twenty and twenty one to this country

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Speaker 2: after the botched withdrawal that we saw under the Biden administration,

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Speaker 2: and has since overstayed his visa.

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Speaker 1: We probably we could have guessed that one, but.

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Speaker 2: Some reports are indicating that this could actually possibly be an.

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Speaker 1: Act of international terrorism. So on with me.

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Speaker 2: Now we have a special guest, a Green Beret and

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Speaker 2: active West Virginia National Guardsmen and US Senate candidate Tom Willis.

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Speaker 1: Tom. First off, how are you.

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Speaker 5: Hi?

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Speaker 12: Benny, thanks for having me. It's an honor to be

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Speaker 12: with you. I'm doing well, but obviously this is a

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Speaker 12: shock for all of West Virginia. And you know, our

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Speaker 12: hearts are heavy with this news and our prayers or

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Speaker 12: with our brothers in the National Guard and for their families.

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Speaker 12: And the timing couldn't be worse a day before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 12: So we have heavy hearts, but we remain steadfast and

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Speaker 12: we remain determined.

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Speaker 1: Well, as an active guardsman in West Virginia, what were

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Speaker 1: your first thoughts when you heard of this? This could

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Speaker 1: not be easy. These victims are from or state.

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Speaker 12: Right and and I just want to clarify Benning that

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Speaker 12: I'm speaking on behalf of myself, Tom Willis, as a

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Speaker 12: state senator and a candidate for US Senate. I'm not

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Speaker 12: speaking on behalf of the West Virginia National Guard. You

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Speaker 12: know they they have a public public affairs office or

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Speaker 12: the governor will speak on behalf of the West Virginia

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Speaker 12: Guard or the adjutent in general. So I'm just sharing

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Speaker 12: my personal views as a state senator and a US

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Speaker 12: and a candidate. But yeah, it's uh, it's heartbreaking. You know,

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Speaker 12: these are these are personal friends you know, we we've

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Speaker 12: heard a little bit about the inflammatory rhetoric from some

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Speaker 12: of your previous guests, and it's absolutely true. One thing

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Speaker 12: to remember is that, you know, the vast majority of

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Speaker 12: National Guardsmen don't wear the uniform. You know, twenty eight

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Speaker 12: days out of every month, they're working at Walmart. They're

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Speaker 12: your local police, they're your firefighters, they're your nurses, your doctors,

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Speaker 12: you know, your your professionals. Uh so so, but they're

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Speaker 12: but they also follow their duty and when they're called

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Speaker 12: to serve, they serve willingly and with honor. And and

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Speaker 12: so these are my brothers and sisters in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 12: Carrying out this mission. It could have easily been me

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Speaker 12: that had been called up for this mission. So I

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Speaker 12: could have easily been a part of this. And I've

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Speaker 12: talked to them during the mission. I know that there

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Speaker 12: were you know, fulfilling their duty, honorably, fulfilling it well

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Speaker 12: like we always do. And in West Virginia has a

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Speaker 12: long history of close ties with the Washington d C.

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Speaker 7: National Guard.

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Speaker 12: Every presidential inauguration, we send a large contingent of West

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Speaker 12: Virginia National Guardsmen to support the d C National Guard

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Speaker 12: and to provide security in the DC area. We also

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Speaker 12: support with regards to hazardous response if there's a hazardous

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Speaker 12: waste disaster, or a natural disaster or a chemical, biological,

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Speaker 12: radiological disaster. It's well known that West Virginia is on

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Speaker 12: the first line of defense to support Washington d C

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Speaker 12: with our expertise in our sets, so we have long

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Speaker 12: ties and supporting the DC National Guard and supporting Washington

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Speaker 12: d C. Obviously, this mission would not have been necessary

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Speaker 12: if local authorities were doing a better job of controlling

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Speaker 12: crime and not encouraging lawlessness by being soft on criming

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Speaker 12: and turning a blind eye to it. Really, that's the

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Speaker 12: root cause of this tragedy that in this uh noxious

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Speaker 12: what appears to be a noxious you know, Muslim terrorist ideology.

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Speaker 12: We've been spoiled the last couple of years because President

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Speaker 12: Trump was so effective in attacking and nullifying ISIS in

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Speaker 12: al Qaeda during his first term that we haven't heard

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Speaker 12: as much domestically or internationally from those terrorist organizations. But

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Speaker 12: make no mistake, they're still alive. You know, I've I've

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Speaker 12: worked against them personally, multiple deployments to Afghanistan and to

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Speaker 12: the Middle East, and they're still alive and well they've

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Speaker 12: been reduced, but they still want to kill Americans.

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Speaker 7: They still want to destroy our society.

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Speaker 12: And it sounds like that's what we're dealing with this night,

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Speaker 12: this evening, and we'll have to wait for more details

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Speaker 12: to confirm.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tom, I want to share this clip with you.

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Speaker 2: Pete Hegg said he talked about earlier sending more troops

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Speaker 2: and I'll get your thoughts.

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Speaker 13: On the other side, someone decided to turn that into

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Speaker 13: targeting National guardsmen. That will only stiffen our resolve. We

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Speaker 13: will never back down. We will secure our capital, we

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Speaker 13: will secure our cities.

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Speaker 5: In fact, this.

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Speaker 13: Happened just steps away from the White House. It will

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Speaker 13: not stand and that's why President Trump has asked me

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Speaker 13: and I will ask the Secretary of the Army to

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Speaker 13: the National Guard to add five hundred additional troops National

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Speaker 13: guardsmen to Washington, DC. This will only stiffen our resolve.

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Speaker 2: So we just heard it right there. The Pentagon is

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Speaker 2: sending wants to send five.

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Speaker 1: Hundred more troops to the district following this event.

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Speaker 2: What's your take on that the overall use of the

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Speaker 2: National Guard troops being deployed not just to DC, but

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Speaker 2: many major cities.

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Speaker 12: Well, the sectuary of war is absolutely right. We will

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Speaker 12: never back down. One thing to remember is that the

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Speaker 12: people that operate with this ideology are looking for weakness,

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Speaker 12: and if we signal weakness that this sort of attack

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Speaker 12: is effective, then then they'll just double down and increase

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Speaker 12: their efforts. So again, the root cause of how did

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Speaker 12: we get to this position in the first place is

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Speaker 12: the failure of mayors and Democrat cities uh to enforce

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Speaker 12: the law and encourage law their encouraging lawlessness through their

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Speaker 12: policies and their soft on crime and turning a blind

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Speaker 12: eye to crime, and failure to enforce the law and

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Speaker 12: letting folks out with no cash bond or are failing

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Speaker 12: failing to prosecute crimes as they occur. This lawlessness is

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Speaker 12: what gave rise to the need for a lawful presence

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Speaker 12: in the first place. And so that's the root issue

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Speaker 12: that we need to address here is get people into

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Speaker 12: government that are willing to enforce the law and encourage

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Speaker 12: a culture of lawfulness, of law and order. And that's

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Speaker 12: what we stand for on the Republican side of the aisle,

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Speaker 12: and that would be nice. So you don't need National

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Speaker 12: Guard in the first place in these cities yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And when we first began this, you mentioned you are

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Speaker 2: running for Senate in a West Virginia. Now, what can

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Speaker 2: our elected leaders do? What are you calling on them

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Speaker 2: to do to address this? And what would you do

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Speaker 2: if you were in their shoes right now?

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Speaker 12: That's right, Benny, I'm currently a state senator. I'm running

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Speaker 12: for US Senate for West Virginia. I think that one

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Speaker 12: thing we need to do at the federal level is

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Speaker 12: take a very close look at our immigration laws. You know,

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Speaker 12: I met my wife on a military deployment, and when

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Speaker 12: we went through the immigration process, the paperwork is quite

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Speaker 12: thick that you have to accomplish to get a visa

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Speaker 12: and then a green card and then the US passport

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Speaker 12: and become a citizen. But it was interesting. One of

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Speaker 12: some of the questions that they asked her as part

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Speaker 12: of that immigration packet was whether she was a communist

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Speaker 12: or had ties to communism. And it was interesting because

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Speaker 12: there was there's an explicit acknowledgment on behalf of the

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Speaker 12: State Department and the US government that we don't want

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Speaker 12: to bring people into our country with ideology ideological views

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Speaker 12: such as communism that are completely antithetical to our constitutional

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Speaker 12: republic form of government, and I think we need to

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Speaker 12: take a very hard look at implementing similar restrictions on

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Speaker 12: Sharia law, because Sharia law is completely antithetical to our

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Speaker 12: constitutional republic as well. And if we're gonna if we're

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Speaker 12: going to screen for one harmful ideology in consistent with

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Speaker 12: our way of life in our society, we should screen

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Speaker 12: for all of them, and certainly sharia law would be

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Speaker 12: one of those. Now, it's very difficult. I've worked in

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Speaker 12: a few embassies overseas, and I've had conversations with some

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Speaker 12: of my friends that were in the visa department, and

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Speaker 12: a lot of times we were in Muslim countries, and

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Speaker 12: you know, folks who come in, they know the right

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Speaker 12: things to say.

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Speaker 7: They know they know the words to avoid.

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Speaker 12: It's not always easy to figure out, you know who,

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Speaker 12: who might turn out to be a Muslim terrorist. But

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Speaker 12: we need to make the standards much stricter and so

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Speaker 12: we avoid a situation like they have in Europe where

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Speaker 12: Muslim Islamic immigration has completely transformed a lot of societies

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Speaker 12: across Europe, and frankly, it's too late for a lot

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Speaker 12: of those civilizations. They're they're they're beyond hope at this

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Speaker 12: point and a lot of those countries.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tom, thank you so much, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 7: This evening, Thanks Benny coming back.

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Speaker 2: We will share some final thoughts on the day and

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Speaker 2: all that unfolded on this day before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Stay here, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you all for joining us today as I

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Speaker 2: filled in for Grant, and Grant, thank you for allowing

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Speaker 2: me to do this.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to wish you

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Speaker 2: Guys all a very happy Thanksgiving and even though there

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Speaker 2: was a great tragedy today, we have to remember how

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Speaker 2: good our God is and always is