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Speaker 2: it's Thursday, November eighteenth, and we've got a jolly good

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Speaker 3: Jolly good. Is that what we're doing right now? I

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Speaker 3: On the Volume.

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Speaker 2: As always, Jenkins and Jones is hosted by my my

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Speaker 2: real life pals and internet pals Legetro Jenkins aka John

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Speaker 2: was that Loubas Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler. Hey, everybody, that

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Speaker 2: was good. I'm GUARDI b aka Mike and UH started

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Speaker 2: off with Johnd McDonald and I let's talk about Big

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Speaker 2: Bubbas and we're.

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Speaker 3: The inventor of Bubbas Bubba's Nigga.

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Speaker 2: We got our favorite feedback that we get on the

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Speaker 4: Volume Alabama fan, a man from Alabama couldn't believe a

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Speaker 4: black person said nigga. He'd only seen white people. It

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Speaker 4: was very disrespectful him. It was gross.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe a black man it's saying Nickel.

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Speaker 5: He was taken aback fifteen seconds of should it took five?

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Speaker 2: He was upset, he said, he said ten seconds in

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Speaker 2: and I hear the inwood barfamuji.

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Speaker 3: Right right a right? Come on? How offended was he? Oh?

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Speaker 4: My god, come on gee, I love it though. It

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Speaker 4: means we're on the right path. I was so happy

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Speaker 4: and I saw that. I was elated.

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Speaker 3: Thank god, John D McDonald doesn't fuck with James and Jones.

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Speaker 3: Are we went?

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Speaker 6: We took a wrong, we took a left, We should

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Speaker 6: have took a right. Nigga, you feel me? Thank you,

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Speaker 6: John D McDonald.

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Speaker 3: You're my north star, You're my south star. Nigga, how

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Speaker 3: about that? I'm going to the opposite way here. You

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Speaker 3: about the fuck? Thank god?

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Speaker 2: It is one of those like uh, I wish you

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Speaker 2: could convey to these people. And you said it when

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Speaker 2: you've quote tweeted him like I saw that and immediately

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Speaker 2: screenshot it and sent it to the group chat, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, great, hey, great news, guys. I jumped on

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Speaker 2: Twitter so excited.

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Speaker 4: You have no idea how grateful I am for you,

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Speaker 4: how happy we all are that you don't fuck with us.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I should thank you that

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Speaker 3: you genuinely, I honestly was thankful for that. You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. Look at this picture. I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 3: high fives from all over the nation. Fuck you mean,

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Speaker 3: John D. McDonald, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like Cam Newton after did you see the video of

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton running around the whole stadium doing a high

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Speaker 2: five line or the entire ring?

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Speaker 3: That was you after you saw that?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know I've spent nine years now, Labama. I

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Speaker 4: know a bunch of John D. McDonald's, and fuck all

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Speaker 3: So you feel me? We bid you adude, my dear friend.

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Speaker 3: Too sweet for this world. John D. McDonald, nothing make

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Speaker 5: John McDonald's right, you feel me with all twelve leve

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Speaker 5: them that he knows.

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Speaker 3: Specifically here.

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Speaker 2: May the Lord carry him.

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Speaker 3: Now. Uh, let's talk about let's uh, let's talk about this.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about buildings and.

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Speaker 3: Uh exciting stuff.

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Speaker 2: The gajillion dollar corporations putting another steak in everyone my age,

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Speaker 2: in Southern California's childhood. The Staples Center will become the

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Speaker 2: crypto dot com center. Got it's like difficult for me

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Speaker 2: to even finish the Center, the Crypto dot Com center.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Crypto if you cast the Lakers game.

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Speaker 4: If you guys want to jump on Staples dot com.

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Speaker 4: They have hammer Hill paper for seven ninety.

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Speaker 1: Nine from the Staple Center.

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Speaker 4: There are literally two chairs on the top of the

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Speaker 4: fuck you know, one hundred dollars rolling chairs.

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Speaker 3: What did you do? How did it become the Staple Center?

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Speaker 3: That's the question.

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Speaker 2: Tyler had a tweet to this effect as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's been the Staple Center since what ninety nine?

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Speaker 5: I think, like, yes, it had a way longer run

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Speaker 5: than most you know, arena naming rights contracts go for

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Speaker 5: the most part, what twenty two years? You we usually

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Speaker 5: see shit, but boy, five six years, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. But I completely get the whole attachment to,

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Speaker 5: you know, it being Staples Center, because you know, that's

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Speaker 5: the house that Kobe and Shaq built. But bro, it's Staples.

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Speaker 5: It is a fucking office supply chain. Like you had

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Speaker 5: to have known for one that it was going to

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Speaker 5: attached to it. Because you, like I said, it's no

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Speaker 5: house Kobe and Shack built. But I think that this

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Speaker 5: just stamps it even more that that was Kobe and

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Speaker 5: And now we're moving forward. So I don't think that

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Speaker 5: cements them even further as the Staples Center being their era.

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Speaker 4: Mike Mike's Mad is not the swing line center.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Would you would you mad this much CBS Center? Like,

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Speaker 3: what would you there with it?

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Speaker 5: Would you have had this much attachment if it was

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Speaker 5: named the Office Depot Center back in ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: No, because that doesn't sound like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: The Staples Center doesn't sound good either. It was just

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Speaker 4: Kobe and fucking Shack doing numbers in there. That was great,

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Speaker 4: and that doesn't erase anything.

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Speaker 2: I actually disagree with you that it doesn't sound good

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Speaker 2: if you consider the business. The business is fucking lame. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever been inside of a

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But you would not say, let's go to the office,

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Speaker 2: whereas it's always been referred to as Staples since it opened, Like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I was coursighted Staples, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Staples to see Kobe and Shaq. And

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Speaker 2: for me, for people in our generation who grew up

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Speaker 2: in southern California, you knew that the Lakers were this

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Speaker 2: historic franchise. And I went to games at the Forum,

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Speaker 2: but that was not our history. Like Magic Johnson got

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Speaker 2: Aids when I was a kid, like a little kid,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and so got HIV excuse

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Speaker 2: me what.

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Speaker 3: He also was really good at basketball.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I know, yes, I know, but that

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Speaker 2: was that was everyone's parents, but that was your parents

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Speaker 2: Lakers history, right.

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Speaker 3: They closed the Forum, they.

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Speaker 2: Opened Staples with kobeas Shack and the next four years

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Speaker 2: was like the fucking best. And so to everyone, I

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Speaker 2: think this our age, it just holds an emotional significance.

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Speaker 2: And because it's exactly you said. Twenty two years La

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Speaker 2: quite frankly has been blessed and different with this stadium naming. Shit,

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Speaker 2: I know, most cities have some dipshit fucking company that

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Speaker 2: they rotate in and out. Dodger Stadium has been Dodger

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Speaker 2: Stadium forever. The Coliseum has been the Coliseum for fucking ever.

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Speaker 2: The Rose Bull has been the Rose bul since it opened.

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Speaker 2: And it was the Great Western Forum, which I didn't

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Speaker 4: Forum, and it was just a forum that sounds the

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Speaker 4: Great Western Forum.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It was just it was a

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Speaker 2: perfect name, the Great Western I literally didn't know it

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Speaker 4: SNAPU Center is just basic. Though maybe it was always bad,

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Speaker 4: but you have the memories there. It's nostalgic.

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 2: And it's been for twenty two years. Kicking off wis

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Speaker 2: shaking Kobe. So this like, oh, some dumb new you know,

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Speaker 2: the fucking up Smoothie King Arena, the fucking Arco Arena,

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Speaker 2: going from the Arco Arena to the Power Balance Pavilion

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Speaker 2: to the Sleep Train Arena, Like we just have not

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Speaker 2: done that in southern California. And I know that's snoppy

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Speaker 2: to say, but it's also true. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Of the Peaches head bro the fuck listen, bro, y'all.

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Speaker 5: Arena arena naming rights are dumb, and I get the

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Speaker 3: But you know, Staples at its core was dumb.

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Speaker 5: It's an office supply It was like the most terrify

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Speaker 5: there was the most terrifying team of my life played

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Speaker 5: their home games at a fucking supply chain data base

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Speaker 5: software development arena.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like that was the scariest best team I've ever seen

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Speaker 5: in my life and they played at a fucking database

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Speaker 5: software arena. This shit is all stupid, and I don't

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Speaker 5: understand getting this attached to it, because for one, it's

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Speaker 5: stupid to begin with, and two, you know the shit's

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Speaker 5: gonna get renamed once another big fucking bidder comes along.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So hey, Staples also has great deals on monitors

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Speaker 4: and has thirty nine per cent alcohol wipes, and they

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Speaker 4: also sell bounty bro okay bro.

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Speaker 5: The Staples around my way sells couches and flat screens,

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Speaker 5: and I would go in that bitch, like, who the

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Speaker 5: fuck is.

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Speaker 3: Furnishing their crib out of Staples?

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Speaker 5: And then I found out last night there a lot

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Speaker 5: of people have a lot of sentimental attachment to Staples.

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Speaker 5: I was like, y'all, y'all, the motherfucker's behind couches out

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Speaker 5: of Staples.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck not to the store. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, I'm dead serious. I honestly don't know that

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Speaker 2: I've ever spent money at Staples.

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Speaker 4: It smells like medicine inside of it. Okay, it's horrible,

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Speaker 4: that's what you dude. They Shaq and Kobe deserved better.

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Speaker 4: That's how you should look at it. At Crypto dot com.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a big crypto guy. I think is kind

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Speaker 4: of like all this ship is just crazy because I'm

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Speaker 4: maybe because I'm old to me, but also just like that,

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Speaker 4: I think that's more fun to me than Staple. No Staples, Bro,

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Speaker 4: no Staple, Crypto actual Staples.

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Speaker 2: Take the Crypto ship to the fucking Warriors, bro.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I hear you name it like fucking good looking women are.

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Speaker 3: Like that doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Exist, Mike, get in and out have money.

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Speaker 5: But the heat are already named after Crypto the FTX arena.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know, you know, because these are revenue

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Speaker 7: name it something cool like that doesn't have money, Mike,

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Speaker 7: this is the best option.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: No. I know actually because I because I hate the

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Speaker 2: the name of the building since it was built, since

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Speaker 2: name it after a speculative limited edition collector's item, masquerading

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Speaker 4: Let's call it Walgreen's Wonder Viet Well, that's what you want, bro,

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Speaker 4: that's what you want.

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Speaker 3: The crypt is hard, dog. I don't care what you say. Bro,

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Speaker 3: I know. I get it. Mike, I get it. I

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Speaker 4: I swear to God, I get it. I'm gostal about

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Speaker 4: the weirdest things. But trip off this, bro. It's a Staples. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's a sas Man.

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Speaker 3: You need a hug. You need a hug. You're caping for.

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Speaker 2: Staples, not the company, the building.

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Speaker 4: I know, but it's still Staples. It was always silly.

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Speaker 4: It was always silly.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Warriors nets Stephichos.

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Speaker 3: Fuck you. I don't want to talk about it anymore.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it anymore. Teacher, go

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Warriors next game though. Goddamn, do

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Speaker 2: you guys get it? You guys get a chance to

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Speaker 3: I watched it, I watched, I watched the second half.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna tell you, bro, like I don't know

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Speaker 2: I don't don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not broke. I tweeted this.

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Speaker 4: It looked like an actual basketball team pulled up to

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Speaker 4: It's like, let let KD KD stuff. Is your offense

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Speaker 5: That's not off it's it's world's of difference because you know,

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Speaker 3: You see guys both ends of the corps, right yeah.

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Speaker 5: You see guys cutting off fall, you see elevator screens,

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Speaker 3: And no sets. No, it's not a single set. You

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Speaker 4: And I we talked about this last last last podcast,

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it's it's fools. God, I

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Speaker 3: And Steph, oh my god, oh my, the man just peope.

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Speaker 3: It was dude. He's shimming. First quarter, they're down.

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Speaker 4: Four twenty eight thirty two. He hits one from like

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Speaker 2: My living room, they knew they were gonna win.

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Speaker 3: I smelled Steph from where he shot it from. You

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Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy man like dog Steph is uh.

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Speaker 4: At what thirty two thirty three? We have like six

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: As Brian can like, you know, it's starting to deteriorate.

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Speaker 3: You know, KD is my guy. You know, I think

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Speaker 4: But oh, steph, step up. It didn't look like it

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: They've they found a way to you know, they've cracked

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Speaker 5: They've turned Wiggins into a solid contributor. Clay's gonna come back,

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Speaker 5: fucking you know, five six threes a game, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. Like, they're gonna be tough, man, They're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not even mad like I should be.

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Speaker 4: I mean maybe because the Lakers are just so bad

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Speaker 5: The Warriors, you know, looking at this Lakers teams like

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Speaker 3: Now? They get cooked? They get cooked.

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Speaker 4: Like like we were on a Brother from another other podcast,

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Speaker 4: and I said, it's like you know, I said, I said, like,

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Speaker 4: It's not even good enough to be fun, you know

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Speaker 4: won't matter. Bro, you have the most turnovers in history

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Speaker 3: It mattered, and it matters.

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Speaker 4: More now, right, and then when Bron's back, like, you're

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Speaker 3: But he's just less effective.

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Speaker 4: And we could have got Derosing, a guy good off

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Speaker 4: the ball that would have actually benefited Broun. I don't know, Bro,

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't It doesn't make sense right now.

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Speaker 3: And then him putting up thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: You saw Damar's comments that he quote assumed that he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and and also Lonzo putting up like

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Speaker 2: I never was not a line And unlike the Damar thing,

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Speaker 2: his success. The damar thing that's gonna look funnier and

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Speaker 3: And we were excited.

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Speaker 4: Because I know, like, I think the thing is, if

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Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, the numbers and all that, and.

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Speaker 3: If it didn't work out with Tomorrow look really silly.

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Speaker 4: But when you look at it, like how like pieces

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Speaker 3: You know, it's these are these are all things.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys hear did you guys hear how much

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Speaker 2: Barclays was cheering for Steph last night?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there are people yell them MVP for him.

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Speaker 3: Then for Katie?

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Speaker 2: Are the are the are the nets truly stepping into

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Speaker 2: They played the Lakers one night, they played the Clippers

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Speaker 3: So are the Nets just you know, Steph goes to

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Speaker 2: Everyone hates him, you know what I mean, It's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about the Nets, but I'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's exactly what it is. New York is

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Speaker 5: It's always going to be a next town and it's

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Speaker 3: And that's what we saw last night.

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Speaker 4: the Warriors, Like if you're in Atlanta, Like my sister,

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Speaker 4: even though she you know, she doesn't root for them,

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Speaker 3: But he's just it's his He's he's the guy. He's

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: You know, the league mimicked them, they changed because of him,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I mean, he's I mean, he's the

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There's nobody I'm turnning on

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Speaker 2: That that's that's what you just said one of This

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Speaker 2: don't play every game. Basketball is the only sport where

438
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: like it feels like music. You're like, oh, the Warriors

439
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 2: are in town, you know what I mean, Like, Oh,

440
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: they're playing They're playing the Lakers and the Clippers, and

441
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 2: it does feel that way, like, oh, your favorite musicians

442
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: in town, like I have to go out and see

443
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 2: him like that's it's such a special thing about basketball.

444
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: I I absolutely I love And then you know you

445
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 2: try and match it up, like Okay, if Brown and

446
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 2: A D and Westbrook are healthy and you know the

447
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: Warriors come in after Clay is healthy. Wow, you could

448
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: catch five all timers, you know, on one course, Like

449
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: I love ship like that. Man, that's a special thing

450
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 2: about that BA.

451
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 3: It's the locks verse, dipset things. The Warriors were that way. No, no,

452
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying what I'm saying before the Warriors. The Warriors

453
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 3: been that.

454
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 2: Way before, before the previous Yeah, yeah, before the previous incarnation.

455
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: Who was before the Heatles? Who would you go in

456
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 3: the Celtics the Celtic, do you think? I don't think.

457
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 3: I bet we might have the going back to Kobe

458
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 3: shack Man, I think so that's what I think. I think. Yeah,

459
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think people were leaving their seats,

460
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: but sellers were good. I didn't.

461
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: I don't think in southern California people would leave to

462
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: go to punch the ticket on KG and Paul Pierce. Yeah,

463
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce's stink, you know. But but Paul Pierce is

464
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: also a Southern California dude. Yeah yeah, yeah, so uh yeah,

465
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: Lakers for sure, Like those are the it's it's the

466
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: teams where I think, you know, yeah, you know who

467
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: the team is because it's a team that you would

468
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 2: if you're taking your kid, you'd get there early to

469
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: watch shoot around. You know what I mean that you'd

470
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: be like, we have to see every minute. And Steph

471
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: is absolutely that way. If you've ever been to a

472
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 2: Warriors game, people will show up the second you can

473
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: get in to watch his full warm up.

474
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 4: Didn't the Warriors like sale tickets where you can have

475
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's available, you can come in to

476
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 4: like watch his shoot around.

477
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 3: Oppose it road stadiums do that? I mean?

478
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: Bro?

479
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, come on, who's who's who else?

480
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: Is league? Is it right now? You know what I mean?

481
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 3: Like kids are wearing you know, under armoured.

482
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 4: I got kids to wear underfarmer basketball sh He had

483
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 4: them wearing nursing shoes hooping in you know what I'm saying, Like.

484
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 3: Shuffleboard, you know what I mean? They passed up the

485
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 3: swoosh in order.

486
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 4: To get that that that under armor logo. Bro, Like

487
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: that that dude, it's what he's doing special.

488
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 3: That guy Steve Curry.

489
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 4: You know, Stephen Curry is Curry and unlike Nash, the offense,

490
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: like we talked about offense that curR has running bro.

491
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's beautiful to see, you know what

492
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: I mean.

493
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 4: Like it's kind of like I think we said this

494
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: before too, but it's like san Antonio but fun to me,

495
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it's san Antonio with seasoning.

496
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like this off ball movement

497
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: is it's just it's incredible.

498
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: You mentioned Steve Nash.

499
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask, uh, do you do we

500
00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: think that Steve Nash after the game just immediately took

501
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: to the streets to try and find someone selling a

502
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: fake Bax card on the corner for Kyrie.

503
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 4: Office was great when they hag Kyrie, Right, it's like,

504
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 4: let the players just be themselves.

505
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: You know, it works when you have sixty percent Hall

506
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: of Famers on the court.

507
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: You feel me.

508
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: When he one guy and then I mean when you

509
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 4: have like KD and then a harden that hasn't looked

510
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: anything like hard and he's down, you have a guy

511
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 4: in a hash trick.

512
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right.

513
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 5: I love how Like a couple weeks back when they

514
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 5: were talking about how there is talk of New York

515
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 5: City lifting this vaccine mandate, like and they asked, Nash.

516
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: Well, you welcome Kyrie back if if the city lifts

517
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 3: the man.

518
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, hell yeah, absolutely, we are not taking

519
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 5: a moral stand here at all. Let's not get this confused. Yeah, yeah,

520
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 5: I'm glad.

521
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I appreciate the honesty. It's always appreciated.

522
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about my favorite basketball reel that we

523
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: got this week, which was what Spencer din what he

524
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: dubbed the Kyle Kuzma look No look Past. That video

525
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: was so fucking funny. I watched it three times in

526
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: a row of him looking at a dude passing it

527
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: and then looking away and clearly doing it.

528
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: I'm so fucking sweet type of a mood.

529
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 4: Sometimes he didn't even look away, he just did the

530
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 4: arms of a no look past, you know what I mean.

531
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: Like his arms made it seem like we were staring.

532
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 5: Dead at the dude, like there's a certain when right

533
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: right right right he was doing while looking dead at the.

534
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: Dude across his face like he was looking away, but

535
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: he was still looking at the dude like he had

536
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: he had you know what I'm saying, the jazz hands

537
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 4: like he was doing a no look. But he wasn't

538
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: bro like Tyler. You brought us up in a group chat.

539
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: We all thought that, you know, he was a too

540
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 4: cool for school ass motherfucker. But he's a nerd. You know,

541
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's trying to appear cool, and that's so

542
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 4: much more endearing, you.

543
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying.

544
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: Those people alone are so much fungingally.

545
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 4: You know, once you get them out of the light,

546
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, they're not pretending anymore.

547
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but it's hilarious.

548
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: That is That is Kuzman would be the guy that

549
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: has no look look past.

550
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the look.

551
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: No look past, no look, the look, no look dying

552
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: from Kuzman. He also had He also had the best

553
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: tweet of the week when a Cleveland television station captioned

554
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: him as player who only has a championship because of

555
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: Lebron James, and he quote tweeted that with we have

556
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: something in common. Cleveland's nice to meet you.

557
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: Did they like that's the lack of awareness. You threw

558
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: the live for you to get dunked on.

559
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Speaker 3: Thank you? What the fuck? Praise?

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Speaker 2: Okay, John wanted me to do a dramatic reading of

561
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: this text message on the podcast, So let me let

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 2: Tweet from Jet said Jade, And every time we spend

572
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Speaker 2: thirty seconds on the internet, we come away from it thinking,

573
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Speaker 2: thank god, we don't have to live our lives as

574
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Speaker 2: women on the internet.

575
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 3: Because men are the worst. Rely this justing God damn.

576
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: She posted a screenshot of a tweet and said I'm

577
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: done fucking with old men. Who says that? And the

578
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: tweet said, and I quote my mouth watered for you

579
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: last night. My muscle was throbbed for your womanhood dot dot.

580
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 3: Like you said it though hood locate fire though.

581
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna fire this off to the missus a little later,

582
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 5: you know, whisper I'm whispered in her ear.

583
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: I miss your womanhood. I am throbbing for your womanhood.

584
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: My muscle is pulsating, My main vein is pulsating for

585
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: your womanhood.

586
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: Oh, I want to know how old this dude is, bro,

587
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: because I'm an old motherfucker and I feel like this

588
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 5: is beyond my realm of o.

589
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Like he's eight.

590
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: Hundred and thirty years old. He saw Moses split the

591
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: red seat. Okay, he saw Moses part of.

592
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: The bro What the womanhood? I mean what he said?

593
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 3: What do you say?

594
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 4: I'm solid, I was, I'm salad. My mouth her mouth

595
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: was watering. Hey, but he has good taste, which is delicious,

596
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: but it is it is sooo.

597
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: Womanhood is an analogue term for like that is a

598
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: like that's a horse, buggy carry carriage.

599
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: Terms pre Internet for sure, that's pre Wi Fi. You know,

600
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: you hear the dial up in the background once you

601
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 4: hear womanhood, you know what I mean?

602
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nineteenth century. I mean that is like, that's

603
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: a Shakespearean Sonnet term.

604
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: What shoes did he have on when he sent that? Bro?

605
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: Definitely hard bottom?

606
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a hard bottom. You know what I'm saying,

607
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 5: some fake gators, I'm thinking.

608
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: Womanhood womanhood, a lot of womanhood.

609
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: Those toes were definitely off. Was whispering through the trees

610
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: of your womanhood.

611
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: Free.

612
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: He has to have a lisp too, He has to have.

613
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: Your woman head throbbing for your womanhood. Good God, bro,

614
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: his tongue must be huge. I just feel like he's

615
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: a big tongue person for somebody. He said, big beefy

616
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: tongue in his mouth, dog talking about womanhood?

617
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: What what what made him think that that was it?

618
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: That was it?

619
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 5: The wonder part of this, the wide part of this

620
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: is ain't no way in hell this is his first

621
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: time rolling that out. No way, man, no way this

622
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: He is a habitual meat pulsating.

623
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: For your womanhood. I know he is. This has probably

624
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: been in a playbook for like fifteen years. But this dude,

625
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: he's probably this is at the top of the playbook.

626
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: He just he puts up one. When he calls Io,

627
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: he called it, iold baby, he got it. This is

628
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: an easy bucket, you feel me.

629
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 5: And And being that he I'm sure he's a habitual

630
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 5: offended with this. It has worked before, fan, it had to.

631
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 5: You don't go back to it if it doesn't.

632
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: It worked a lot.

633
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: I think The thing is he's she's probably messing with

634
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: like a like a O G.

635
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He's probably like eight to

636
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: ten years older dinner, you know what I mean. And

637
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: so like this has worked tomorrow, you know what I'm saying,

638
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: on the people he's messed with.

639
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: So he tried it with his young thing, and he's saying,

640
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: and it's really hard, purfule losing your young thing.

641
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: It'll work for Yeah, it'll work with Theas, not with

642
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: the Jades. Bro Like you know, you gotta know you

643
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: the devil, you gotta do. The devil is a big womanhood.

644
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the Barbers will go crazy for that.

645
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: DJs. The bja's wud go crazy.

646
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 6: But gee, if you gotta love before your name, she

647
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 6: ain't going for womanhood, Okay, Tasha with womanhoods Neither is

648
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 6: Latasha LaToya none of that.

649
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. You're saying you think this

650
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: is another demo. Got to know the demo? You're saying.

651
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: You think this like the dude I sent you in

652
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: the video who is on that radio show not allowing

653
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: anyone to disrespect Nipsey. You think he's like, oh, I

654
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: represent this cript ship.

655
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about that little bit?

656
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you close it in the crips than we are, Mike,

657
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: so you can't miss that's not pod talk.

658
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: It was a good clip. I retweeted it. It's a

659
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: good clip. It's important to know the difference. This is

660
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: not germane to the video clip, but just generally, it's

661
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: important to know the difference between radio slash, Twitter shit

662
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: and real life ship.

663
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: And there is a difference.

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Speaker 2: And if they really do change the name of the

665
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Speaker 2: Staples Center to the crypto dot com Arena and all

666
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: these fucking little tech bros who've recently moved to La

667
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: or running around talking about oh it's the crip, people

668
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: will learn the difference between the Twitter shit and the

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Speaker 2: real life ship.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

671
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: It's a difference.

672
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: When I told people to take that Kobe's all real difference,

673
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: it wasn't Indian baby, it.

674
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: Was it wasn't Indiana moment is okay, This.

675
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Is the difference between Southern California other places? Is that

676
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: the real, real real ones? A fuck with the Lakers

677
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: and Dodgers out here, right, that's learn.

678
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: How close the Lakers are to the city. Like you

679
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: disrespect the Lakers, you disrespect in La. You feel me

680
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: dispect the southern kyle you you know what I'm saying.

681
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: So what was.

682
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: Funny was watching when the Lakers won the Bubble Championship,

683
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 2: the impromptu celebrations that happened around Staples Center. And you know,

684
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: at that time, we were still fairly early in the pandemic, right,

685
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of like, well, the people breaking

686
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: the uh the quarantine rules of stay at home orders,

687
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: those are like redneck white people or whatever. And it

688
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: was like, these are not redneck white people.

689
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: These are them ones, bro, these are them once.

690
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: These are people with ATVs that they keep in the

691
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: garage for no reason other than maybe the Lakers will

692
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: win a championship.

693
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: And they would jump the ship out of Covid.

694
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Speaker 8: Okay, this is fucking rallies and donuts you know, on

695
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Speaker 8: main streets, Fucking ten o'clock at night.

696
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: It was the best. All right, let's talk about Marcus

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Speaker 2: Thompson's Dynasties were finishing it up. We got the last

698
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Speaker 2: three chapters, which is the King Dynasty. Uh fitted very

699
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Speaker 2: fitting actually for what we've been talking about, the Steph

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry Warriors and the Near Dynasties. Tyler do you

701
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Speaker 2: want to I just want to say again, Tyler, great pick, bro,

702
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: thank you man.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's the Marcus because Marcus is the homie

704
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Speaker 5: for real, you know what I'm saying.

705
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: And this is a great fucking concept. So did I

706
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: send you guys a picture of Vincent?

707
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: Marcus sent Vincent a signed copy of the book and

708
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: it had a really nice inscription in there for him,

709
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: and Vincent absolutely flipped the fuck out like he's been

710
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: showing everyone when when Tyler and JJ come over to work,

711
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: he shows him the book and the inscription and then

712
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: he points at the name and then the name on

713
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: the cover of the book.

714
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: He's like, it's the guy who wrote the book. You

715
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean? I have this and you don't. Okay,

716
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: that's cool, man, it's cool.

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Speaker 2: He's a really good dude for that. Bro.

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Speaker 5: I can't igine someone who was, you know, an eight

719
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: year old book wearing myself. I can imagine a guy

720
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Speaker 5: who wrote a book that I love telling me that

721
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 5: he appreciated me reading, you know what I mean?

722
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: Like that would have been huge for me at that age. Bro.

723
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Speaker 4: But who baby said, Vinnie, can you name like the

724
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Speaker 4: list of Hall of Famers or future Hall of famers

725
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,560
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726
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Speaker 3: He's grown up in.

727
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Speaker 4: The Long Beach Sports world, so you know he in

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Speaker 2: Well, he's he's uh, he's been blessed by his time

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the King Dynasty, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: So, yes, you know, this is a very unique chapter.

772
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Speaker 5: It's a unique chapter because of course, you know, the

773
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 5: book is dealing with you know, dynasties, the ten teams

774
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 5: that you know, shake them modern NBA. But you know,

775
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 5: you cannot leave Lebron out of this discussion. And you know,

776
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 5: he gave Lebron a chapter here because he you know,

777
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 5: he talks about, you know, besides the whole how Bron

778
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: shifted the league, you know, the whole player empowerment that

779
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: you cannot leave him out of the discussion when when

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Speaker 5: discussing finals championships, he's went to ten of them.

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00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, he went to fucking h straight.

782
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: You know he's got four rings.

783
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: So yes, he is a dynastyan to himself because and

784
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: it goes back to what I've said before that we've

785
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: discussed how Bron is a player system, you know what

786
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: I mean, Like when he comes to your team, you're

787
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 5: gonna play basketball, in his image, in his design.

788
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: So you know, it was a really good chapter that

789
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: touched on that.

790
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: And like I said, you cannot discuss dynasties without discussing Lebron.

791
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 5: If you're if you're a focus of the discussion, as

792
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 5: this book is, it's kind of you know how they

793
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 5: impact it.

794
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting because I totally agree with

795
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: his pick of teams and of using Broun as a

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: team here. And I just think something that became clear

797
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 2: in this chapter to me is there's a difference between

798
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: being an all time great player and being a dynasty

799
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: all time great player. And I agree with John. I mean,

800
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant has taken the mantle over as the best

801
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: player in the world, but it's different. It's the history

802
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: of the NBA is this book. It was Jordan, then

803
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: it was Kobe and Shaq and Tim Duncan, and then

804
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: it was Braun and then Steph Curry Warriors, like and

805
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: as good as Kad is right now, he's just the

806
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: guy who is maybe the best player that year right

807
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: for Steph Curry's Warriors. As good as Klay Thompson is,

808
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: He's Scottie Pippen to Steph Curry on Steph Curry's Warriors,

809
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: Like that is the way that this shit will be

810
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: thought of in sixty years, whether that's fair or not.

811
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: And it's interesting when you look at the league now

812
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: to think about the Giannises, all the other great players

813
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: and we'll just see. But you had the way the

814
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: NBA is you have to win a couple of those

815
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: in order to end up in this book, you know

816
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: what I mean? And I totally agree with him, Like

817
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: this is how we talk about and remember basketball, you know,

818
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: passed down through the generation.

819
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: The thing is Kat has won a couple.

820
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: He won a couple MVPs with that too, and it's

821
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: still Steph's team, and that is so interesting. We're the

822
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: best player on the team for two of the three chips,

823
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's not the guy. He's

824
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: just not you know what I mean.

825
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Speaker 2: And if anyone said k Warriors, if anyone said the

826
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Speaker 2: KAD Warriors, you'd be like, what the fuck are you

827
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: talking about?

828
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: We'd be John A. McDonald.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I'm saying, you know, throw up emoji,

830
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Speaker 4: so yes, wow, but yeah, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I mean, you know, KD if we're talking

832
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Speaker 5: about the Steph wards KD went to the house that

833
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: Steph no way around that, you know what I mean.

834
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 5: Like KD was the best player on those teams, but

835
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: that was Steph's. That team was built by Steph. Team

836
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: was built his steps image and Steph springs.

837
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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting how people have looked at it,

838
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: looked at Steph and he talked about this and the stuff.

839
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Speaker 4: Whereas too, it's like how people you see kids out

840
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: here shooting from from deep now, you know, thinking they

841
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 4: can imitate him because they think what they could do

842
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 4: with what Steph does. But I think, you know Steph's

843
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: talents like that he came out the wound being able

844
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Speaker 4: to shoot. There is something in his genetic makeup that

845
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Speaker 4: makes him as good asy you. We could we all

846
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Speaker 4: three of us could have could work.

847
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: Twice as hard as that, did, you know what I mean?

848
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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he doesn't work hardest and happen

849
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: maybe maybe you know what I mean. So there's something

850
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Speaker 4: in his Makeupi's trying to imitate that and it's and

851
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 4: that's what's really interests me too as well.

852
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: The difference is because he's six three, it presents the

853
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: illusion of.

854
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: Suit you know, yet that baby face. You know what

855
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You know, he looks like he's not a guy.

856
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: You know, he shouldn't be a guy, you know, but

857
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: there's something in his makeup that he was going to

858
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Speaker 4: be this you know.

859
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's and it's like, you know, we've we've

860
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 5: heard that that narrative about Steph being an underdog, and

861
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 5: I not buy into that at all, because he you know,

862
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 5: for one, you're you're six three. You know, you came,

863
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: you're the son of an NBA player, You had all

864
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 5: types of you know, and trainings and camps and all that.

865
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: You're not an underdog, but you well, I do think

866
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: Steph is an overachiever. I don't think he's an underdog,

867
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 5: but he's definitely an overachiever. None of us looked at

868
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 5: this kid and was like, this is going to be

869
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: the second best point guard ever. This is going to

870
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: be the guy who changes the NBA. This is going

871
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 5: to be the best shooter of all time. This is

872
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: going to be a two time back to back MVP,

873
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 5: one of those MVP's unanimous. This guy is gonna lead

874
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: a team to seventy three wins. None of us sell

875
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 5: saw that for step not a single soul. Step probably

876
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 5: didn't even see that for Steph.

877
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

878
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 5: So, yeah, he's not an underdog at all, but he

879
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 5: is for sure and overachieving.

880
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: No one who grew up with a gator around their

881
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: house is a fucking underdog. To me, ever, I don't

882
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: give a fuck. You grew up as you grew up

883
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: as a millionaire son of an NBA player. You have

884
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: the same job your dad had, you're just better at it.

885
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: That's not I mean, it's not an underdog. Yeah, I

886
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: totally agree he's an overachiever, but yeah, the underdog shit

887
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: at some teacher I think in Oakland wrote him a

888
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: letter asking him to come talk to the to her kids,

889
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: saying that it was like, because you're not as big

890
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: as the other dudes, every kid thinks they can be you.

891
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: And there's a little bit of a danger in that.

892
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: You know, no one, no one, no one in southern

893
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: California thought they were going to be Shack, right, you

894
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean? You knew you weren't Shack, but

895
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 2: you can trick yourself into thinking you could be steps.

896
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 4: It's really funny that we saw him at Davidson doing

897
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: those things against the best players in the nation and

898
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: during an attorney and we just assumed he be fifteen

899
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 4: point per fourteen point per per game.

900
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: Player, you know what I mean.

901
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 4: But he's on shooter, he's yeah, yeah, but he's he's better,

902
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, he's you know, he's better,

903
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: not than the fifteen points than what we saw at Davidson.

904
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: That's extremely abnormal to me, you know what I'm saying. So,

905
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't think, yeah, but it's it's it's wild.

906
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 4: He's definitely you know, he's definitely overachiever.

907
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: Some guys and this is an interesting phenomenon in sports

908
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: to me. Some guys succeed at a certain level at

909
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: every level of petition. We had a baseball player in

910
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: out of Lakewood near here, you know, that plays in

911
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: the league that all the Lumba High schools play in

912
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: second team All league player his whole career. I don't

913
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: think he was ever on an all star team as

914
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: a youth player. Goes to college second team All Conference players,

915
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: hits like two ninety in high school, hits two ninety

916
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: in the NC double A, gets drafted by the Giants. Okay,

917
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: he's in Single A. He's in Double A, hits two ninety,

918
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: second team, you know, and then gets called up to

919
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: the major leagues, hits two ninety in the Major leagues.

920
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: That win's a World Series ring with the Giants. It's

921
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: just there's just some dudes like that where it's like

922
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm at my I know exactly who I am, I'm

923
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: at my level. But so for Steph, he's playing YMCA

924
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: ball or whatever rich kids play, that's, you know, the

925
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: better version of YMCA ball. He's playing NC DOUBLEA basketball.

926
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: He's playing the NBA's I'm gonna do this shit to

927
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: whoever's guarding me, and it is what it is.

928
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: He makes it to Steph Perry Show wherever he goes,

929
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

930
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: Like, but it's like him hitting like three point fifty

931
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: in college and then four hundred.

932
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 3: In the NBA, you know what I mean.

933
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: Like usually we see guys that will be like the

934
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: five hundred in high school and they'll go down, you know,

935
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: to like no, you know what I mean.

936
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: Like Lonzo. Lonzo had what I would think of as

937
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: a very traditional like unstoppable in high school, set a

938
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: bunch of records in college, but you could see that

939
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: the shot wasn't you know, white at the college level,

940
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: and then got to the NBA and realized, oh, I

941
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 2: have to completely do this and put it back together.

942
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Steph.

943
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: It was just this weird, you know, straight up arc

944
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: absolutely really really really unique. Let's talk about the newyor dynasties, Tyler,

945
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: what what what sort of jumped out of you? What

946
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: interested you the most from this chapter.

947
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 5: I do think the the Rockets probably don't get enough credit.

948
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: I think that, you know, and and Marcus said it himself.

949
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 5: You know, they're a victim of winning those rings, you know,

950
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 5: with DIAMJ wasn't there for a season and when MJ

951
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 5: came back, right, But I think if you look at

952
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: the at the Rockets, if you look at the style

953
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 5: of ball they play, they played spacing, shooting in and out,

954
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 5: which is kind of what the NBA is about today,

955
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 5: except NBA teams really don't go through the center offensively anymore,

956
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 5: you know, for the most part. But you know, they

957
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: also don't have a log one exactly if they don't

958
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 5: have a lot, right, if they had a log one

959
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 5: and they figure it out, you know what I mean

960
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: for sure? But yeah, but yeah, they played ball in

961
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: a very you know, modern way. Like I said, the spacing,

962
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 5: the shooting, and the inside out ball like that was

963
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: that that was fucking you know, that's modern day basketball.

964
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: That we were seeing twenty five years. I think the

965
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: Sixers don't get enough credit. And I think Doctor J

966
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: in particular, you.

967
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, Like twenty twenty in college, I'm

968
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: looking at the numbers he put up in the NBM,

969
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 4: like what the hell? You know what I'm saying, Like

970
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 4: I knew he was. I knew he was a guy.

971
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: I knew that, but I hadn't looked into that at

972
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: the status. The status blew me away how incredible he was.

973
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: But he got caught up in between, like you know,

974
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: some some real great themes, you know, great dynasties, and

975
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: they as they had a they have some incredible teams

976
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: too that they that they underachieved. I think they blew

977
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 4: a three to one lead against I forget who it was,

978
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: but they blew a three one lead in the in.

979
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: The conference finals before.

980
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: So but Doctor J, like how and how the teams

981
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 4: that the Sixers had, and how we never talk about them.

982
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: We're just talking about we just we don't even talk

983
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: about Doctor J's numbers.

984
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: We just show his highlights.

985
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: We showed that up and under, you know what I'm saying,

986
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: Show how smooth he was, how cold cold he was,

987
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: but we don't actually show that, like how he really

988
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: was a baller and he put up incredible numbers. It

989
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: just didn't happen a lot of times in certain some

990
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 4: of the big moments.

991
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: But they had a fansom squads.

992
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 5: And I've said before I think Moses moments pers the

993
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 5: most underrated player in NBA history. Like he he was

994
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 5: a three time MVP. You know, a guy who was

995
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 5: getting you twenty seven and thirteen in his peak, busted

996
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: Kareem's ass for a ring in a sweep, and we

997
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: don't talk about the guy at all. Like I really

998
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 5: think Moses is perhaps the most underrated player in the NBA.

999
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: Is there? I think Doctor J is probably the older

1000
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: basketball player who the people that I know who grew

1001
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: up watching him, there's the biggest disc repancy between how

1002
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: they feel about him and how younger people know about him.

1003
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's a long beach thing

1004
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: or what, but the people who are like fifteen years

1005
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: twenty years older than us, they talk about Doctor J.

1006
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 2: You know, Michael Jordan. They're still having goat conversations about

1007
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan and doctor j just in terms of the

1008
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: best player they've ever seen. And I think growing up

1009
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: when we did, I just it's just not what I heard,

1010
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: you know, at the time, necessarily. So here's a question,

1011
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: because I totally agree with Marcus about the Rockets and

1012
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: the fact that they won their championships, you know, not

1013
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: against the full Jordan boles.

1014
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: Do you think, like when I was a kid, I thought.

1015
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: The Bulls would have won eight championships in a row.

1016
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: But the older I get and the more you see

1017
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: how human beings and their emotions, like that's a part

1018
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: of the equation on these dynasties, I don't think that

1019
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: that's possible. Like, do you think that they would have

1020
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: won both of those championships? Because if the Rockets had

1021
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: beaten the Bulls for their first championship, I think we

1022
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: talk about that team completely differently. But I disagree with

1023
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: the cultural assumption that, well, the Bulls would have just

1024
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, like one no matter what because of Michael Jordan.

1025
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: Jordan retiring probably gave the team a reprieve, you know,

1026
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: Like Tyler talks about how nobody was happy on that

1027
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: Bulls team, you.

1028
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

1029
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: They got you know, three years, a year and a

1030
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: half without MJ, and then another three years, you know

1031
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

1032
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 3: So I think that kind of gave him reprieved, Like, dude.

1033
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: What eight years straight playing that like with that type

1034
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: of you know, with that dude on your head like that.

1035
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if they would have stayed together, you know.

1036
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 4: I mean, that might have been important for him to retire.

1037
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 4: But but yeah, I mean, yeah, we were talking about

1038
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: the rock is totally different. They at least won one

1039
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 4: of them against MJ, for sure.

1040
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

1041
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Jordan himself said that he retired after the

1042
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: first three peat because he was drained. He was mentally

1043
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: and physically drained. He just didn't think he could do

1044
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 5: it anymore. So I do not see the Bulls, you know,

1045
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: running off eighth straight.

1046
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: Hell no, Wain.

1047
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: Now it's interesting. It's an interesting kind of a trick

1048
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: almost to pull on the rockets, you know what I mean.

1049
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm gonna devalue your championship by not being there.

1050
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: It also shows what a psycho he was by the

1051
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 2: way that he was like, let me go play minor

1052
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: league baseball because I'm drained, which is arguably the most

1053
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: grueling thing you could do to yourself in pro sports

1054
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: in America. I mean, let me go chill out playing

1055
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: minor league baseball. I know you had a nicer hotel

1056
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: room than everyone else, but that's not a fun life

1057
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: to live, you know what I mean.

1058
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: You pay.

1059
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 5: Also, it's also a clear case of big guy bias.

1060
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 5: You know, big guys do not get their credit the

1061
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 5: way that we give it to, you know, smaller guys,

1062
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 5: the wings and guards, because like if we're to credit,

1063
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: if we're discredited, we're discrediting Aqum because we didn't get

1064
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 5: to see him matched up against Luke Longley when he

1065
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 5: went through you Ing and shack to get these two

1066
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 5: rings right, Like like that's man, It's like I said,

1067
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 5: it's big guy bias. We always lean more towards the

1068
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 5: wings and the guards in these discussions rather than the

1069
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 5: big guys.

1070
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: Went when discussing great.

1071
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: You were talking about you know, players are not getting love.

1072
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: I think James Worthy one of those players too, man.

1073
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 4: I think he's up there with most Belonge with Like

1074
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: we just don't talk about Worthy enough, you know what

1075
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 4: I mean.

1076
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: So he was crazy, but you.

1077
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 4: Put in a lot of playing, like you know, tiple

1078
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 4: a ball or was he playing single lay ball whatever,

1079
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: I don't even know. Whatever, Yeah, minor league. I saw

1080
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: him play for the Birmingham Barents. You put a lot

1081
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: of heavyweight on playing. He struck out like seventeen times

1082
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 4: straight at one point.

1083
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: Bro. That's stressful too, though, and especially if you have

1084
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Speaker 2: the mentality that he did.

1085
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's like baseball.

1086
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: It's like failure drenched and minor leagues are you know,

1087
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: the money obviously doesn't mean anything to him, but it's

1088
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: like you get drafted and you congratulations, you're the best

1089
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: high school baseball player in the country. You get to

1090
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: be on a fucking bus, you know, two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty days a year for ten thousand bucks a year

1092
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: or whatever.

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00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: Like it's crazy.

1094
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: And he was like, let me get away from the

1095
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: bright lights of the NBA and go grind it out

1096
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: in double.

1097
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: A fucking baseball's hands. I couldn't.

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00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: Like, we had the Knoxville Stars when I was living

1099
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: in Tennessee and I ran to watch him play, and

1100
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: I remember like, by the sixth inning.

1101
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: I was like, can we go home? Dad chuck out

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00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: like two or three times.

1103
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, man, I've seen enough. I'm gonna watch

1104
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 4: David Justice, you know what I mean?

1105
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 3: Or like right, you know a real one.

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00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: You know? All right, that's all the time we've got.

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00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: Thank you to uh, thanks to Marcus for writing a

1108
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: great book.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. It was a good break from

1111
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: learning about the crushing weight of how horrible American history

1112
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: is to uh dip our toes in with with the

1113
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: basketball book so and animations like that. Yes, I'm like, cool,

1114
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: little look at this cool drawing of Steph Kirry And

1115
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: I want to.

1116
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: Start this real quick.

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00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: Arthur Joffa, I'm getting my artsy nerd ship. But Arthur

1118
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: Joppa dropped the ID mag He like edited a whole

1119
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: ID magazine. I don't know if y'all have to Arthur Joffa,

1120
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: but I get high a lot and watch his stuff

1121
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 4: and like cry, it's it's beautiful, beautiful ship. But like

1122
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: cop that. And if you aren't hip to Arthur Joppa,

1123
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 4: check this stuff out. Man, It's it's dope. But I

1124
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: think that's just so cool. Bro, what exactly is an

1125
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: I D Man, I D I D magazine. It's it's

1126
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: it's a yeah, yeah, yeah he edited magazine.

1127
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Arthur Joff is like a visual artist and he like

1129
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: he has like these archives of you know, visuals, and

1130
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: he puts them together and makes visit it makes these incredible,

1131
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 4: like moving pieces of work, our art. But like sometimes

1132
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: you can watch him on YouTube and stuff like that,

1133
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 4: or like on the computer. But I've seen him in

1134
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: a couple of museums and you know what I'm saying,

1135
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: I like salivate.

1136
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm my my my main watching watching his work. But no,

1137
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: he seses. I think he's one of the best visual

1138
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: artists of our era, of our time personally. But yeah,

1139
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: check tap in with that, tap in with that. It's fire.

1140
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: All right, We'll see you guys on Monday, right, Yes,

1141
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: this is mid week episode. Yeah, we'll see you on Monday.

1142
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: Bye.

1143
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 4: I'm doing with you, bye bye bye.

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Speaker 3: H m hmmm.