WEBVTT - Bears vs. Browns Week 15 Game Preview | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.240 Right justin middle of the field forty five fifteen bring 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.600 Russ in front of a cleaving Lions. 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:09.039 In this way, I am Jeff Jonahacklitz. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.480 Is not Donny go up. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.360 What was like playing for Coachy boddom Ah. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.560 I don't want to answer any questions like that. Sixty 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:17.439 one yards? 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.000 What's Sunday stroll for? 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:20.040 Justin field? 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.400 Ye Bears et cetera with the voices of the Chicago 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:34.360 Bears Jeff Joniac. But it's gonna be a big game 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.599 Bears and Browns in Cleveland, an important game as it 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.479 awaits the Bears. They are back in the conversation, albeit 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.920 a long way to go to get into the playoffs, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.000 but plenty of ways to get there and plenty of 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.440 discussion with Tom Thayer. I'm Jeff Jonahak and this is 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.280 the Bears et Cetera podcast. The Bears travel to Cleveland 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.200 on Saturday. We'll kick off at noon Chicago time. On Sunday, 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.440 we break it down and coming up, we visit with 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.920 former Browns quarterback Bernie Kosar and inspiration story for him 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.640 and is rebound overcoming a lot of personal issues and 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.920 just his health in general. And he has a keen 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.000 eye on quarterback play in the National Football League, both 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.760 with Joe Flacco and Justin Field. So I hope I 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.000 set it up perfectly because I think it is one 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:18.760 of the bigger games we've had here in a while 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:19.880 Bears and Browns. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.039 Oh, I mean a non divisional game at this point 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.600 in the season. How much it matters to the possible 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.240 playoff future of the Bears. What happened the last time 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.520 that Justin Fields went into Cleveland and played. There are 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:38.880 so many tentacles to this game that it's not It's 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.360 not as meaningful as a divisional game to me. However, 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.680 for where the Bears are going, it has as much 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.200 meaning as any game the season. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.680 Yeah, you're shoving all the chips in the table, you know. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.280 If this is Polker, you're putting them all on the 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.680 table right now. One of four games left, and you're 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.240 right and high a little bit here. You got a 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.960 two game win streak, you have three out of your 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.520 last four, five out of your last nine. There's Rodderie 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.680 brewing in the locker room. Across the offense and defensive 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.600 special teams. People are playing for each other. All these 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.640 things you hear about winning teams, and yet Hey, there's 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.040 still again mountains the climb here, but it feels different 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:14.800 at the moment. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.680 How about for you? 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.640 You know, the unfortunate thing for me right now looking 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.120 to Sunday's game is the fact that they've lost you 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.600 On Econ Gockway to an injury. And you know, he 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.919 was part of a rotation of defensive linemen that were 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.640 really effective. And I think when if you have guys 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.400 of a pass rusher with his reputation, what Montes Sweat 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.000 has done for this team, how the rookies are developing, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:43.919 and how every other defensive defensive lineman is contributing. He 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.000 was important part of the rotation. So I'm interested to 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:51.920 see how Matt Eberflus, the defensive coordinator, they kind of 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.160 supplement his reps with the other guys. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.720 Yeah, Tom still the status from hallis in Ikeon Gockway 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:58.440 broke an ankle. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.280 I was surprised to hear that, as I. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.040 You know, I didn't think I never saw an injury 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.120 that seem ass severe, and then when I read the 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.640 injury report, I was really disappointed that you know, you know, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.760 there's a possible well he will be out for quite 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.079 a while. And just again to see where this defense 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.480 was going. I think he was as important part of 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.280 it as not as anybody, but he was an important 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:25.639 part of. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:26.160 It, no question. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.000 Can't have too many defensive pass rushers. I broke it 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.519 in the game, requires surgery out for the year. I 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.480 happened in one of the last two minute drives of 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.840 the game. Four sacks he winds up with, and eber 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.160 Flush says on Wednesday could have had at least three 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.560 or four that slipped out of his graphs. So a 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.440 great opportunity here. Again, DeMarcus Walker's been playing a lot. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.720 He'll probably play a lot more. Will Dominique Robinson get 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.280 back into the mix. I'm not giving up on this 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.680 guy just yet. It's just a pause after the trade 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.360 that brought Montest sweat here. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:58.119 Reps are a little. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.520 Limited for guys right now, but I hope he can 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.560 maybe have just one last kick in the end of 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:04.920 the season. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.000 You never know what's going to happen. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.240 Well, you really have to evaluate every position and how 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.040 they factor in in the specific part of the team play, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.080 how they fit into special teams. Where the receiver position 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.000 is at right now with an injury to Saint Brown, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.280 so you know it is it is about, you know, 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.600 how they factor in on special teams if they're not 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.240 if they're not a true starter, and Dominique Robinson is 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.520 not going to be considered a true starter. So what 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.040 else can he do for this team? 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.719 Justin fields at the podium every Wednesday, addressed a number 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.719 of things, won, the hits that he's taking and what 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.200 Jacon Brisker had to say about maybe teams are you know, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.200 zeroing in on Justin and the and the flags aren't flying. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.680 He took it in stride. He's not making a big 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:55.440 deal about it. But he has played well, and he 0:04:55.520 --> 0:05:00.200 has played differently in his return. Obviously, the pocket play 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.720 is something that we're always going to discuss. He thinks 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.680 he's developed significantly. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.359 Yeah, I think just you know, learning from past mistakes. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.360 I think that's the biggest thing. Where last year, at 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.200 some points I would just you know, escape the pocket 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:11.920 or you know, just. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:12.839 Run for no reason. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.640 So you know, just trying to move in the pocket, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.760 fill out the pocket, and throw the boat up too. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.240 So that's interesting that, you know, he felt last year 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.480 he just sometimes left the pocket for no reason. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:22.919 Now he's trying not to do that. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.560 And boy when he does run though, and I caught 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.760 some of your stuff on Marquee with the Dan Hampton 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.719 this week, just watching some of those runs. They have 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.159 a hard time reaching him when he he just feels 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:35.680 the juice. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.760 You know. We talked about the podcast the other day. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:42.440 Yeah, you know, it's interesting his escapability over time because 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.600 a lot of times we saw him move to the 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.560 exterior of the pocket and then when things opened up, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.080 he took off down the sideline. But a couple of 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.280 the runs he had in the Detroit came were right 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.719 through the center of the defense. And it's not you know, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.799 like I said in that show, because you can't spy Justin, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.080 because there's no one out there that's fast enough to 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.080 be a dedicated spy to Justin. So it's more of 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.719 putting bodies on the field and try to interrupt the 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.800 escape lanes or the throwing lanes. Yeah, and but Justin said, 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.680 you know, he's learned more about this offense and it's about, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.839 you know, how to use his feet and how to 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.760 use his arm. And I think we see examples of 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:24.560 it each week. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.840 But now the Cleveland Browns are the opponent. He gave 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.480 us a little thumbnail Scott and report on what he 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:31.080 is facing. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.360 I mean, yeah, they have a lot of talented players, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.280 you know, on defense, of course, their D line is 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.840 a talented group. Shoot their linebackers, they're very athletic, very fast, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.560 they have very good instincts in zone coverage on the 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.920 back end. Safeties and corners of course are definitely top 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.640 of the league. So it'll be a great test for 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.160 us this week, and everybody's excited for the opportunity. But 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:55.760 definitely a talented defense for sure. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.600 So a lot there athletic linebackers all three levels, but 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.760 they are banged by injuries. In the last question, how 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.800 do you prepare for Miles Garrett? Man, you got to 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.679 have a plan, just you got to have a plan, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:09.560 got no where he is. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.320 Yeah, but it's Justin's responsibility. That's the responsibility of the 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.600 offensive line coaches, the offensive coordinator, and the guys who 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.200 are assigned to him. As far as blockers, Oh yeah, Justin. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.600 Justin can't be responsible for Miles Garrett and everybody else. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.840 So the plan of attack against Miles Garrett is gonna be, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.440 you know, the creativity of Luke Getsey, of Chris Morgan, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.520 and then the assignment guys that you know are his responsibility. However, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.080 like when you see him playing against defensive ends like 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.040 they did against the Raiders and other teams along the way, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.560 they can have a plan of extended opportunity for Justin 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.320 to run away from, you know, wherever the defensive end 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:01.840 lines up. However, my concern is is that sometimes Miles Garrett, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.760 he waits for the offense to break the huddle, he 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.920 looks for their position of strength, and then he lines 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:12.360 up accordingly. So you can't always be guaranteed that you're 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.480 going to have protection pointed in the right direction for 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.080 Miles Garrett. So sometimes some of these guys are going 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.240 to have to have some incredible efforts to be able 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.680 to stop him slow and slow him down in his 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.520 pass protectar's pass effort. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.840 Well, how would you conteract that? If he's going to 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.559 do that late game shift, late snap shift? 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.959 What do you? What do you? How do you counteract it? 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.480 I have a good blocking back in the backfield, and 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.800 so if I break the huddle and I come out 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.320 in my strength, my tight end is to the left, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.040 then I move my right, my running back to the 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.240 right hand side if that's where Miles Garrett is lined up. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.680 So now my chipper is right off the shoulder of 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.000 the offensive tackle, and then I tell my offensive tackle, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.679 maybe cut down your split a little bit. Makes understand 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.000 that you have outside protection, so don't give up that 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:07.080 inside path. And those are the coaching remarks and the 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:11.000 responsibilities of the offensive offense developers. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.480 The new Chicago United air Lines is getting brand new 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.200 planes with all the bells and whistles, like Bluetooth connectivity 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.640 screens at every seat in the room for everyone's rollerbag. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.800 United Proud to fly the Chicago Bears. And you too, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.400 just looked at some stats here on the Browns. You 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.560 know they do blitz They blitzed at a pretty higher 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.439 rate thirty percent of the time. Their pressure rate second 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.439 best in the league. That's an ode to the great 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.199 skill of Miles Garrett at forty two point one percent. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.319 So these are things that the Bears are going to 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.959 have to be looking at. They play man a lot, 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:47.400 fourth highest percentage in the league tom and that seemingly 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:52.160 lands in favor of the quarterback justin fields because if 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.080 their back is to them, he could be taken off right. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.000 But when you talk about a great pass rusher like 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.559 Miles Garrett, you talk about a team that it says, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.920 are they gonna push him? Are they going to allow 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.640 his escapability to the shortest part of the field where 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.560 they have multiple bodies. Are they gonna give him the 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:14.240 full fifty three to you know, take off and challenge 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:14.920 the defense. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:16.280 It'll be interesting. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.079 And I think though, if you're gonna play a lot 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.800 of man coverage against a guy like Justin fields Man, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.360 you're playing with fire. And if he can, you know, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.200 create escapability through that, I think you're gonna see some 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.079 big quarterback runs by him. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.880 So this Browns team is number five right now in 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.280 the AFC. Tom Grant Delpit out for the year, just 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.640 signed a thirty six million dollar contract. He's got a 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.760 groin injury suffered against Jacksonville when he sacked Trevor Lawrence. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.480 Outstanding player having his best season so far. Seventy seven tackles, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:53.400 Jedrick Wills Jedrick Willis goes on injured reserve with a knee. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.520 Dwan Jones has a knee. The two starting tackles. If 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.800 they had Nick Chubb and Deshaun Watson and Conklin and 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.320 Rodney McLeod and Maurice hurst Man, we'd be we'd be 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.960 talking a little bit differently about this Browns team, and 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.280 as it is, they've managed to overcome and win eight games, 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.160 and they've won the most games in the league against 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.320 teams with a better than five hundred records. So they're 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:17.680 finding ways to get it done. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.600 Yeah, you know, and a large large part of that 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.760 is they have a good defense. Even though they're missing 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.160 a couple of key parts to that defense, they can 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:32.240 still pressure a quarterback, young quarterback, maybe a quarterback that 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.320 doesn't have great athleticism. Maybe there's a deficiency on the 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:41.000 offensive line that they can take advantage of repeatedly. So 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.400 this is going to be an interesting matchup. But you know, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.400 I think the development of the Bears offensive line, the 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.400 way the offensive guards can help out the tackle position, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.880 what you can do for a guy like Justin Fields 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.360 if you offer him the right escape valve. So I 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:04.920 think they're over there in Cleveland kind of probably talking 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.400 about some of the same things that we are about 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.760 the Cleveland Browns. They're saying of them about the Chicago Bears. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.760 For all your journeys ahead, go with a partner who 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.480 has been on your team from the beginning of the one. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.200 Members and communities of trusted for over eighty five years, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.360 Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Villinois, always standing by. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.920 You, with you, for you through it all. 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.400 All right, a long conversation and in a very in 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:31.760 lightening conversation. Ahead, Well, we have two weeks ago Eric 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.920 Kramer or last week Eric Kramer his battles. Now we 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.840 got Bernie Kosar. We were seemingly going to talk Brown's 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:44.160 Bears and his unique perspective on his hometown team growing 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.840 up in Youngstown, but it traveled many different ways. Tom, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.320 I was blown away by the conversation and some of 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.240 your questions and some of your thoughts on it as well. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.040 So let's take a list in our conversation with the 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.800 former national champion at the University of Miami, recruited by 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:05.160 Howard Schnellenberger, instrumental in his rise to becoming a Heisman 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.120 candidate back in nineteen eighty four, and then the supplemental 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.920 draft in nineteen eighty five, the year Tom and his 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.840 Bear teammates won the Super Bowl, Bernie Cosa on a 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.760 lot of different topics. All right, we welcome an old 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:21.319 friend back to the Show Bears, Etc. Podcast with Tom There, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.520 Jeff Joniyanka. We welcome the smiling face of one of 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.640 the best quarterbacks in his day and one of the 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.880 best quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns. Bernie Cosard doing well. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.520 I love the big smile on your face. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:33.400 Bernie. How you feeling. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.400 I'm still great, Jeff Tom Great to be with you 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.880 guys as your Chicago Bears come in to take on 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.000 our Cleveland Browns this weekend. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.760 The actually, the health and wellness of myself, it's a. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.559 Lot better than some of our our Cleveland Browns and 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.199 some of our our Cleveland Brown quarterbacks of late. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:52.640 Yeah. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.200 Well, hey, I think a second team now. The Browns 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.600 have already done it. Minnesota is going to be the 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:03.280 second one since nineteen fifty to start four quarterbacks in 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.080 one season and win games on top of it. So 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.640 your guy right now is Joe Flacco. Hey, we'll take 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.920 your lead here and start talking about that. I mean, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.680 he's a Bernie co start type quarterback, pocket passer and 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.040 been around a long time at the tender age now 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:18.640 thirty eight. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:19.120 Yeah. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.600 To see to see Joe Flacco in a Cleveland Brown 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.240 uniform and playing in the old Cleveland Brown Stadium is 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.359 a little unique and challenging to some of us CTED 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:35.160 or TBI cancust old quarterbacks, but seeing him on the 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.600 Brown side of things as opposed to the Ravens and 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.600 our last year. We were mortified when he was playing 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.480 for the Jets and had that miracle comeback against the 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.400 Browns last year. The way our defense is playing, the 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.520 way our offensive line is playing, and to see Joe Flacco, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.400 who literally two. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.320 And a half weeks ago was sitting on his couch and. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.000 Now to see now's the se him throwing. And to 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.760 see him throwing and I'm not trying to say this 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.960 guy is to be a homer or to strike up 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.560 this Browns Bears thing. I'm really just talking about it 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.800 from the ultimate respect of an old quarterback watching another 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:21.480 quarterback play. To see him throw the skinny bangate post 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.360 that he threw a couple times against the Rams two 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.960 weeks ago, and then what he was doing last weekend's game, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.600 and to have that sense of timing to be able 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.840 to hit those balls now, with that sense of timing now, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.160 it's really impressive after all those years in. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.720 The league that he's still able to make those type of. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:45.480 Throws and away Coach Stefanski and our offense and Coach 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.080 Callahan's been handled We've had a ton of injuries on 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.600 the offensive line, and with Tom on the call here, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.400 I'd love to see what he thinks about our offensive line. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.560 I mean, we're throwing the third level of third string, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.840 yet our offensive line is dominating. And given Joe Flacco 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.840 with the running game time so the play action pass 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:11.680 and being an old school quarterback, drop back, pocket quarterback 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:16.080 with offensive line play with guys that you have only 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.840 been there as a little amount of time as Joe Flacco, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.479 it's actually really impressive. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:21.720 Ernie. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.160 Before I get into the Cleveland Browns and Bears game, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.200 I got to ask you a question. When I heard 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.480 you were going to be on, I could not wait 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.360 to ask you. So, you've taken your career from consideration. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.680 You take it. You look at the tough guy image. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:39.040 Of that era of football, You think of the quarterback position, 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.280 and then you think what Tom Brady said two weeks 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.360 ago and the state of the toughness in preparation of 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.680 the modern day NFL. Do you have any reaction towards 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.960 what he said and do you agree or disagree with it? 0:16:55.880 --> 0:17:00.640 Well, Tom, the old school, the old school QB. Now, 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.320 I probably could get a little long winded on this answer, 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.640 you know, and as I look at some of these 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.720 old cranium inflating pictures of me behind me and stuff 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.480 of the old days, we were joking, you know, me 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.080 and you and Jeff joke on air and off air 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.119 for more than the last decade about some of the 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.920 health issues that we've gone through, that we go through 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.720 and proudably what we did when we played. And I 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.680 don't want to see guys get hit like we got 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:33.919 hit and it's kind of the. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.640 Barbari gladiator days of it. But I am super. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.080 Proud to be sitting here, to be healthy, to be 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:46.719 cognitively present, you know, after forty surgeries, eighty broken bones, 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:51.000 hack one hundred concussions, had fifteen seizures. I had my 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.480 last two seizures at the O'Hare Airport. I was in 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:59.639 a coma for ninety six hours coming from a concussion 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.840 and valuation. I'm with the NFL docs, so I don't 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.960 want to see these younger quarterbacks go through some of 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.520 the stuff that I'm going through health wise and kind 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.840 of what I've been doing on my health and wellness 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.000 journey to come out of it. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.120 Heck, the great quarterback Jim McMahon I've been looking at 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.360 his ankle. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.600 And some of the stuff that you know, he's going 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.320 through with his with his rehab and us trying to 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.080 be healthy now on that God, one of your old 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:32.320 teammates that you used to block, Steve McMichael, you know, 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.159 and what he's going through. So there's so many of 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:40.919 those type gladiator issues that some of our friends aren't 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.800 doing well with that, you know. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:44.920 I'm I'm super proud to be. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:50.480 Cognitively present and to be basically physically pretty good. But boy, Tom, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.160 you know, some of the stuff that we went through 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.840 and some of our friends are going through. Now, it's 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.639 awesome that you and me are able to be on 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:03.199 air today and decently articularly, but God, so many of 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.119 our friends aren't able to do that. So when I 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:11.119 hear statements like that, I kind of feel proud to 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.600 be here, but yet I feel bad for a lot 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.879 of the guys that we played with and what they're 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.960 going through. So when I hear Tom Brady make those statements, 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:22.240 the physical thing I think is. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:23.879 Okay, But one of the things that. 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:28.520 Maybe he's made referring to is because they don't maybe 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.720 practice as much and actually see this a little bit 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.000 in the development of Justin Fields in Chicago. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:36.880 I'm a big, big fan of. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.520 Your QB there, and I love his athleticism, I love 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:44.240 the way he plays in his presence. But maybe Tom 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.760 your question, and what tom Brady's may be referring to 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.800 is his level of coaching and the system that he 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.240 got early in his career, and the attention to detail 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.880 and almost the obsessiveness that we had. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.240 With knowledge and back in the day. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.200 You know, yeah, I was on top of that gladiator 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:09.360 targ killer be killed attitude from the physical side, but boy, 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.120 from the mental side, it was a masters program of 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.719 practice and intelligence from the x'es and o's. And I 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.720 see that kind of lacking a little bit in what 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.840 they're teaching the younger quarterbacks, and they're asking them really 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.040 to not on learn the whole field, in the whole game, 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.680 like Tom Brady, like myself, was kind of groomed. 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.959 And that's kind of limiting to young quarterbacks. 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.959 And I see guys like you know, Justin Field's kind 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.320 of struggling early in his development because of I think 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.320 some of those statements like that Tom Brady's making about 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.720 maybe the development of the coaching of it isn't what 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.520 it's what it's up to part all right. 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:52.040 So now let's move to the modern day Cleveland Browns. 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.120 You talked about your offensive line a year ago, two 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.199 year and a half ago, they had a reputation of 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.000