1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid verbal holl that for me. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Ato state? Is that? Whoo whoo? 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: And them and tie welcome back to the Solid Rubber 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildenbrandt. That guy 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: over there, the one, the only, the incomparable Dan Rubinstein, sir, 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: how are you go ahead? 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: Very excited for the show, Very excited to have a 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: guest one of my favorite people on the show. 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Fascinating topic obviously sports gambling. But I just I mean, 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: I went to a fantastic concert recently. I haven't we 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: were recording this early on in the week. It was 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: a Sunday night show. To the end of the episode, 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: I don't. We can't get into it. 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: At the end of the episode, I feel a little 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: bit emotionally wounded that you did not tell me in 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: advance you were going to the show. We could have 22 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: talked to You could have spent many hours, many minutes 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: at the minimum, talking about it on this program, and 24 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: we did not because you did not tell me. I 25 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: thought we were closer, but I thought I did I didn't. 26 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine. So it was Green Bay Green Day, 27 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Fallout Boy, Weezer, and a band called The Interrupters, who 28 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: I arrived too late to see at Wrigley Field. It 29 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: was a really, really good time and I'm quite glad 30 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: I went. We will talk later. We can, we'll talk later. 31 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: Yes, this show that we are doing, and we have 32 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: I suppose more housekeeping to take care of. But you've 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: seen the topic. It's Jeff Schwartz, who co hosts Big 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: Boy Bets with me in addition to other shows that 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: are without me for some reason, where we talk about 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: college football, wagering and issues that can come across for 37 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: large humans, of which Jeff is one like I always mention. 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk to him about buffet strategies, 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: just to give you a little portal into what goes 40 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: on in Big Boy Bets buffet strategies for him, as 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: as he's defined himself on his Twitter, a fat kid 42 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: live in a dream as a larger gentleman. I don't 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: think that's going too far to say. Do you know 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: where that comes from? By the way, fact, could the 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: fat kid living a dream? I don't think I do. 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: I believe. In two thousand and seven, Jeff and at 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: least one or two other guys were on the Jim 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Rome Show, and Jim, as I call him because I'm 49 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: a close dear friend, Sure, Jim asked some question that 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: elicited Jeff. 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: I think it was Jeff saying or maybe it was 52 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: another one of the offensive lineman saying like, look, man, 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: we're just a bunch of fat kids living the dream, 54 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: and that stuck. I know they may have done a 55 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: calendar something in the following year. 56 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: It was great. Jeff Schwartz will be by momentarily here. Yeah, 57 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna do a little bit of a I don't know, 58 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: just a discussion around college football gambling, some of the 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: lines that are of interest as we look forward into 60 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: Week one, any win loss totals that are of interest. 61 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: Of course, Jeff, much like yourself, Dan has a proclivity 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: towards all things PAC twelve that obviously is a source 63 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: of munch of his knowledge. So we'll dive into that 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: much much more. We'll get to the buffet strategy. I 65 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 2: promise you, yes, here momentarily, as you said, a little 66 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: bit of housekeeping on the topic of gambling. If we 67 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: could take a knee for a second. Please let's take 68 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: that knee without giving too much away, because I don't 69 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: believe I am able to at this point. Some of 70 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: these thoughts around week one lines could come into play. 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: If you are a patreon for baller verballers dot com. 72 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: Some of this gambling wisdom could be of particular interest 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: to you given some of what we have coming in 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: the next week or so, or lack of belief in 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: ties gambling wisdom or lack of belief in gambling wisdom 76 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: either or it's just it just I can't say more. 77 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: Well I will soon, but just keep it in the 78 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: back of your mind. Maybe take get a little notepad 79 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: or something it just jot down the things that you 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: like or don't like, and just commit it to memory, 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: because we may have something cool just around the corner. 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: It's the Venn diagram that it's the intersection of fun, 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: serious college football things and one of the stupider elements 84 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: of the soliverbal Ever it's at that really it's specific intersection. 85 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: It's right at that intersection. Yeah, it's where they overlap. Yeah, 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: So stay tuned. We do have that ballers dot com right, 87 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: verballers dot Com as ballers that should monitor and learn 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: more about being both the Patreon subscriber and the very 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: mysterious news that you alluded to. I'm very excited about this, 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: say the last time, one of the dumber things we've done, 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: which makes it all more exciting. Correct. The only other 92 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: thing that I have to talk about is go on 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: out wherever you get your podcasts. Obviously, download the show, 94 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: tell your friends about the show. But since we are 95 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: getting into the season now, and since more folks are 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: looking for college football podcasts, please do go out there 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: and leave us a review. If you like the show, 98 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: if you got something to say, if you want to 99 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: tell others how much you like the show. Every little 100 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: bit does help us, So going out there, leave a 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: five star review and let some of the other folks 102 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: out there who are looking for podcasts know about find 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: work we're doing here. Definitely agree on that note without 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: further ado. He is our friend, he is our colleague. 105 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: He co hosts Big Boy Betts. Where else can we 106 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: find him? Dan Fox Sports Serious. Jeff Schwartz is smarter 107 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: than you or smarter than you. Yeah, he does that 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: with our friends Gabe Goodwin and Matt Ford. They're fantastic. 109 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: I love him, and please welcome Jeff Schwartz back to 110 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: the show. The so called fat kid live in a dream. 111 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: Per your Twitter, sir, how are you well? 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm not so called. I am a fat person who 113 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: is also living the dream. I'm good. I'm excited for football, guys. 114 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: We have week zero action. We have like legit weeks thereo. 115 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: We have Nebraska Illinois right in a weird conference game 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: in UCLA and Hawaii. Like, we have real football in 117 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: just under two weeks, and I am I'm ready for it, 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think I really understand it's happening that soon. 119 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: What's it like for you? Having played the game now 120 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: you're on the outside to some extent looking in, do 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: you still like how do you get pumped up now 122 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: versus how you got pumped up for this before? Oh? 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: I mean I think now I feel like you get 124 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with information, right, I mean, you can find so 125 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: many different ways to preview the season. I've actually found 126 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: myself scaling back over the years. You know, when I 127 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: first retired, came I read all those all the guides 128 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: before the season, right, just read everything I could. And 129 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: now it's like, well, let me just read one or 130 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: two because you get overwhelmed with the information. I feel like, 131 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: especially in the gambling space now right, everyone has a 132 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: preview and all these trends and all this stuff. And 133 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: that's why I think I do really well gambling the 134 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: PAC twelve because I folks on the conference so much. 135 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't have to read all the stuff about the league. 136 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: I already kind of know it, but just naturally. It's 137 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: just so I tried not to get bogged down anymore 138 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: of just reading all these different previews, all these different guides, 139 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: because in college football and really in the NFL too, 140 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: in both sides, you know, things change very quickly, right 141 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: you have a guy gets hurt, boom, someone else comes in. 142 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: Like things are just flut all the time. If you 143 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: get bogged down with information, I think kind of it 144 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: makes your preparation tough for the year. So I just 145 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: try to let it roll, man, And when it comes 146 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: to the season, I feel pretty prepared to talk about 147 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the top team. It's different what I do than you know. 148 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: For you guys, you're previewing everyone, right, I don't have 149 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: to do that. I don't have to learn about the 150 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: seventh team in the MAC. So it's a little different 151 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: preparation for me. 152 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: Do you have a general philosophy that you try to 153 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: adhere to. I mean it always changes, It always is 154 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: situational by the game, by the situation. 155 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: But do you. 156 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: Recognize in yourself, like, Okay, this is how when I 157 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: look at a line, this is how when I look 158 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: at teams, this is how when I look at a situation. 159 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: This is how I approach it. 160 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I try not to bet on my favorite teams. 161 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: That's one thing. I just don't bet an organ. I 162 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: don't bet on the Chiefs very much in the NFL. 163 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: That's a good way to approach it. No, I mean 164 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I think that gambling is so different than the picking 165 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: games straight up, right, and even as a player, the 166 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: idea of matchups and whatnot that might that might not 167 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: determine who covers the spread, right, I mean, that's part 168 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: of it is We're we're talking about a team losing 169 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: by fifteen or less points, right, We're not talking about 170 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: wins and losses sometimes or a team need to win 171 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: by a touchdown, you know, and loyal eight points right, 172 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: so touchdown? Yes. So I think college football, though, there's 173 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: some pretty easy opportunities, especially when you have those those 174 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: look ahead games, right when a team is on the 175 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: road before they have a big home game, you know, 176 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: put the points in the dog. It's really it's really 177 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: hard in sports to bet on bad football teams. And 178 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: but that's really where the money's at, right, Like betting 179 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: on bad teams to cover games at home is where 180 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: you find yourself in the end, I think making a 181 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: lot of money, and that's really hard to put your 182 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: money on bad football teams. I mean, look, I gamble 183 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: on baseball. We talked about it before we started. You 184 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: have to bet bad baseball teams. That's the way you 185 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: make money in baseball, like because you know so, it's 186 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: just it's it's hard to swallow that sometimes, but I 187 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: think in the end that's the way to go. 188 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: What you bring up the look ahead game. And on 189 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: our show we have any number of different catchphrases that 190 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: will tag a game with the let down, look ahead 191 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: sandwich right, the sandwich game, after the big game, before 192 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: another big game, a body blow theory. Right, if you 193 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: play a team like Navy, or back in the day, 194 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: if you played Stanford, really physical team Wisconsin, yeah, Wisconsin, 195 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: perhaps the very next week your your team would ye 196 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: would lag, right. Is that a real thing? Are any 197 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: of these real when you're out there on the field, 198 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: or is it just something that Dan and I do 199 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: to amuse ourselves. 200 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's real on the college side, because 201 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: these kids are eighteen twenty two years old, right, So 202 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: they're very emotional, and it's very naive to think they 203 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: don't know who they're playing in two or three weeks, right, 204 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: So if you are, you know, look, I'll talk about Organ. 205 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: I might kind of worried the Fresno State opener is 206 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: going to be a clunker for this exact reason. Like, 207 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: they know they're playing Ohio States. Everyone knows they're playing 208 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: Ohio State. This game has been circled for years. It's 209 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: a game that I know the program at Staff feel 210 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: like can be their coming out game. Right of Look, 211 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: we blew the Auburn game two years ago. Let's go 212 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: to Ohio State and win. There's no debating that that's 213 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: that's being thought about right now. Obviously they have to 214 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: play Fresno State first, and I think they're like three 215 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: touchdown favorites, which in any other situation I'd be like sweet, 216 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, I would take Organ at home, just because 217 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: you know. But but I'm worried. These are kids, right, 218 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna think to themselves, I've been the same spot, right, 219 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: we can beat Fresno. Let's not you know, we we 220 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: can beat them, kind of, let's let's and you don't 221 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: really play less hard against Fresno. But your mind is 222 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of already in that place of like, we're playing 223 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State next week, and so I think it matters 224 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: now in the NFL not so much. Right in the NFL, 225 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: it's each week is so regimented, and you're you know, 226 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: just you're a pro, right, so it's a job, and 227 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: so you're not really looking ahead to playing the team 228 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: in front of you, because if you don't play very 229 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: well that way, you're gonna lose. Look if Organ comes 230 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: out and gives a c effort against Fresno State, they 231 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: probably win the game. Don't cover, but they win the game. 232 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: In the NFL, you can't do that, right, So the 233 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: look ahead stuff, I think it's very true. 234 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: Now. 235 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: The body blows is interesting. I hadn't thought about that 236 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: one before. I Mean, I definitely think if it's non 237 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: conference game, it could matter a little bit more. If 238 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: you're not used to physicality. I mean, I just think 239 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: that's what sets apart kind of the SEC and when 240 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: people say, hey, we want X team to play in 241 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: a bigger conference, you know, Cincinnati or UCF. I even 242 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: heard that stupid argument that the American Conference is more depth. 243 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: In the Pac twelve conference, you have to play a 244 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: powerfuff team each in every week, right, Like, that's that's 245 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: the difference. Is you stack those games up in a 246 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: row and by game six you're beat up. Your depth 247 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: is not there. That's what always impressing me about the SEC. 248 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: And really what BAM has always done is that each week, right, 249 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: it's a physical grind each week in that conference, yet 250 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: each week they keep being able to do it. I've 251 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: never thought about that, Like, is there a numbers after 252 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: you play wis Concert and Navy where teams struggle. 253 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: Not necessarily not necessarily. That's just a that's why we 254 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: call it the body blow theory that we as old 255 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: people are saying to ourselves, well, they're probably really sore 256 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: from having the place Stanford or Wisconsin. 257 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: I think. But I think there's some personal pride in 258 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: that too. You rock. If you get beat up against 259 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: Wisconsin the next week, you want to show you're not 260 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: that soft, right, or you're not that team. So there 261 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: could be able to add the adverse. I think for 262 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: Navy it's really hard because that's such a different offense. Right. 263 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: You're like, if you're on defense, you spend that entire 264 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: week preparing for something you see once every four years 265 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: if you play them randomly. 266 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: And we used to call it, and to some extent 267 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: we still do the Bruce Feldman body blow theory because 268 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: he had a stat about teams that would play Navy 269 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: and after they get the week after they played Navy, 270 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: and I don't recall I have to go back and look. 271 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a straight up loss 272 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: or maybe just against the spread, but the larger point 273 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: was just that you play Navy, you get kind of 274 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: beat up the following week. Maybe you're not your optimal self. 275 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: That makes sense, I think, because that that game is 276 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: so uni. If you're a defense you might not see 277 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: that many cup blocks all season, if you're a defensive lineman, 278 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: and like that takes its toll that week of practice, right, 279 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: kind of getting your body back. I could see that 280 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: being the case on defense. Offensively, I don't know what 281 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Navy doesn't do anything defensively that's so unique. I think 282 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: for again usual it to piece that out as far 283 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: as if it's just the defense that kind of feels 284 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: that body blows, the offense shouldn't feels a certain way. 285 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: There's Navy's not over the physical and defense. They don't 286 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: have anything they you know that they do that's so unique. 287 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: You could argue they don't have a defense at all, 288 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: at least the last week last year. 289 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Last year was it was very tough. But yes, they 290 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: always they're always going to be undersized, and I think 291 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: I like watching them play, right, They just they fight 292 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: for everything. They're scrappy and there and they're fun to watch. 293 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: Something that I've started to pay attention to that I 294 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: haven't dug into the numbers for gambling purposes and what 295 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: it looks like against the spread, but instead of looking 296 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: at how a team might play after an especially power 297 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: oriented team or an unusual you know, the flex bone 298 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: or the option offense that you know Georgia, tech Us, Runner, Navy, 299 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: Army and stuff like that, I'm starting to wonder if 300 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: the preparation and you can speak more to this from 301 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 3: a football perspective too, that preparing to play a three 302 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: three five team or on defense, an offensive line or 303 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: an offense in general, or even preparing to play you know, 304 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: the sort of the sort of defense excuse me that 305 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: Iowa State pioneered a few years ago, that teams have 306 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: been using against the spread, which is almost like a 307 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: three two six system, that there are so many assignments 308 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: that that are are practiced for offensive linemen and offenses. 309 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: In general against a four to three or against a 310 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: three four. 311 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,239 Speaker 3: And then and I was reading about this with Mississippi 312 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: State's defense that an offensive coordinator said, like, we're just 313 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: it's not something we practice against. And that is something 314 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: to me that is fascinating that in the way that 315 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: you're learning to play against an option team, you're learning 316 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: to switch assignments on the fly during practice before a 317 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: game against that team. 318 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: I'll just speak from the offensive line perspective. You know, 319 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: the three three five is it gives you really tough 320 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: double teams, right, because you're not really used to playing 321 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: guys that are head up on your body at the snap, 322 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: and that's really what it is, right, and they move 323 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: every snap, so they don't just stay there either. So 324 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: you know in a four to two five, yeah, you 325 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: might have some line movement, but that line movement and 326 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: stuff you practice all the time. And three three five 327 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to get the scout team to give 328 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: you that look that we can practice too, right, and 329 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to to and then you get into a game, 330 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: it's like, oh crap, they're moving everywhere. What do we do? 331 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: But the thing is if you can, if you know 332 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: how to block it up, then you can hit those 333 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: big games, right. I mean, you know, those defenses aren't infallible, 334 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: but they're really hard to play each and every week. 335 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: And then you know, so if you have a veteran 336 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: offensive line that knows how to pass protect, you know 337 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: it's how to double team, you're able to kind of, 338 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, handle that better, but you have to have 339 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: the personnel. I think that's really tough about three three 340 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: five is when you're behind in a game, trying to 341 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: stop the run game is kind of hard. Like when 342 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of gets rolling. You just don't have the bodies, right, 343 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: You don't have the big bodies in there to stop that. 344 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: But it makes sense teams doing that. Teams are passing 345 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: more often now, Defenses seem to be playing the pass 346 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: to the run. It used to be playing the run 347 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: to the pass right, and now they're playing more pass 348 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: on to the yep. So I liked where they're going. 349 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: But we've also seen Daniel too a bunch offenses. Defenses 350 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: are moving in the other direction. They had that three 351 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: three five, that three four scheme ish, and they're going 352 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: back to four two five because it's a lot happy 353 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: in that defense. It's hard with the lack of practice time, 354 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: with so many rotating players, I think to run the 355 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: stolid defense. 356 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm going to pay attention to it, just 357 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: in terms of what what the lines look like for 358 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: teams favorites playing against more unorthodox or more unusual defenses. 359 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: Let's take a look. I saw a stat that Brett 360 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: Brett McMurphy, who is now a believeab the Action Network. 361 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah that's a new thing. 362 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we like Brett. Brett's a good dude. 363 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: He pointed out that in the last twenty years or so, 364 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: the teams that won the national championship, all but two 365 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: started in the top seven of the preseason. A peopole 366 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: that would be Auburn in twenty ten. Not familiar with 367 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: that squad. 368 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Not familiar again, Now they didn't actually win that season 369 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: because it was the problem is that you know, when 370 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: you make a referee mistake like they did in the game, 371 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: the game is under an inevitable. 372 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: Print of protest. I still ruling. 373 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, Auburn of course started twenty two that year, 374 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: and then Florida State started at number eleven. That was 375 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: to be the Jamis Winston redshirt freshman year twenty thirteen. So, uh, 376 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: if you look at the current top seven, which is 377 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure you have it in front of you. 378 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got it. It's it's Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson, Ohio State, 379 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: Georgia no surprise in the top five, Texas A and 380 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: m is six, and Iowa State as seven. Just to 381 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: round out the top ten. Then we've got Cincinnati at eight, 382 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: Notre Dame at nine, North Carolina at ten. Cincinnati at 383 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: eight is really interesting to me. Now, I'm not going 384 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: to mount any kind of case here for Cincinnati as 385 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 2: a playoff contender, as a national championship contender, but it's 386 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: really high for Cincinnati, and they have a good schedule 387 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: that I think could get people thinking about, all right, 388 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 2: what could these guys do against a better team. So 389 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: that being what it is, out of that top seven, 390 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: no surprises in the top five. A and M at 391 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: six is kind of high for me, given that they've 392 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: got a freshman quarterback or a new quarterback. And then 393 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: there's the Iowa State question, which we spend a great 394 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: deal of time talking about Iowa State. How legit are 395 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: they or aren't they? They certainly bring everybody back, which is, 396 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: you know, you have to feel good about their returning production. 397 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: But there's your top seven. 398 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing about college football. 399 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: And there are teams outside of the top seven. 400 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: People there are people just don't really like having the 401 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: conversation that there is this upper tier of teams and 402 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: then there's a tier two. And tier two is really 403 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: good a football You just mentioned a lot of those teams, 404 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: probably right, A and M, North Carolina, Iowa State, Cincinnati, 405 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: a Pac twelve school possibly in there as well. There's 406 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: that tier two good at football teams, but they're not 407 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: winning the championship. I always state it's not winning championship. 408 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: Since he's not win the championship, I think maybe you 409 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: can make a case for North Carolina Sam Haws as 410 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: good as people want him to be, right, if he's 411 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the this year. Maybe right, they 412 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: don't have comes until the championship game. They beat clemes 413 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: In in a good game and then end up going 414 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: to the playoff. Okay, I could, I could maybe make 415 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: that case. That can make the case possibly for USC 416 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: being a playoff with their schedule, but that just feels 417 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: very gross because they're not good enough to win a championship. 418 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: But look, there's an up rational on teams and most 419 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: likely we're gonna end up having Alabama or Georgia comes 420 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: in Ohio state in Oklahoma. Like that's just the way 421 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. And until we get a new playoff 422 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: format that we'll have twelve teams. But guess what have 423 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: those twelve teams? Guess who's can win about four of 424 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: the same teams right until until we see otherwise it's 425 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: people hate talking about that, but it's true. And I 426 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: think that organ's building a program to where we can 427 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: compete at that level. I think not this year. I 428 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: think next year is with our new corporate situations kind 429 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: of the year where okay, we have all those Bootschip guys, 430 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: now can we go do it in a playoff? And 431 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: and by the way, the playoff also a twelve team 432 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: playoff actually makes it more difficult for anyone outside of 433 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: that Tier one to win a championship. I know people 434 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: think it makes it easier because they get in, no, no, no. 435 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: In the old system, you have to win two games 436 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: to win a title, right, just two games. In the 437 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: new system, anyone outside that top four has to win 438 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: four games. That four games? Are you telling me that, Cincinnati? 439 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: I always say to these other teams, you're not winning 440 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: four straight games against those teams. You're just not doing it. 441 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: So people hate so who from the second tier though, 442 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: numbers wise, just from a value perspective, I understand where 443 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: you're saying. From living in reality. 444 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean I get. I mean Florida's at plus four thousand. 445 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, is a good coach. Again, you have to 446 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: look at the easiest path into a playoff, right and 447 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: North Carolina I think if you're looking at pass to 448 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: the playoff, right, I mean, they don't play clumbs in 449 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: the regular season, so they can get them in the 450 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: title game. It's in Charlotte, right, so they're gonna have 451 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: a ton of fans of the game. They Sam Howe 452 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: plays out of his mind, and they're in the playoff, 453 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: and then anything can happen obviously. Again, I think so 454 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: that and there's different sportsbooks will have to make the 455 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: playoff wagers, which I don't. I can't. It's hard to 456 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: find in a lot of these places like Iowa States 457 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: plus twenty five hundred. Are they going to really run 458 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: the table in the Big twelve. I just they've never 459 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: won ten games in their program. 460 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: History regular season games. 461 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I only ever won ten games. 462 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: Ever. They've won nine games three times, yeah, like eighteen 463 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: or nineteen oh six, the year two thousand and last year, 464 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: the only three times that's ever happened. 465 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can make a case for 466 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: usc AT plus five thousand because of their schedule. Again, 467 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: I think they lose whoever they play in the in 468 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the Pactor Championship game because Washington and Oregon is just 469 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: getting physically pound on them and then Oregon. Look, I mean, Dan, 470 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: I talk about every day, right about Anthony Brown every day, 471 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: and we're trying to convince ourselves Anthony Brown will be 472 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: better than what he is. 473 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: The hottest text chain in America. 474 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: And if Anthony Brown, you know, Anthony Brown completes sixty 475 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: seven percent of passes this year, which will be a 476 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: lot for his career, which is not actually high compared 477 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: to where the top quarterbacks and culture boar. Right now, 478 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: we have a chance. I mean, it comes out to 479 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: that if they again working keep beat Ohio State, Anthony 480 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: Brown plays better than what he is. It's that simple. 481 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: If they beat Ohio State, they're probably the playoff team. 482 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Now can they win the championship? Probably not. 483 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: So here's my question about Oregon. We're framing this in 484 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: terms of the playoff, which I know you hate, Dan, 485 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: you secretly hate that or not. 486 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: Say, but I'm okay with people making money however they 487 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: can well, and that's where I'm going to go it at, 488 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: like plus I'm seeing. 489 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: Win the championship. 490 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: Yet to win the championship a plus eight thousand. Here's 491 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: the deal. Oregon's over under his nine and per I 492 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: think the latest line that I see here, it looks 493 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: like most people are hitting the over pretty hard. Right, 494 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: So that that contention that maybe you guys have about 495 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: Anthony Brown, it seems like the betting public is willing 496 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: to cast that aside and willing to go over on 497 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: the nine. How do each of you feel around that 498 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: over under? 499 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the best thing to do is often bet 500 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: against the public, so the wager would play. I think 501 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: nine is is the absolute bottom this season. Like that's 502 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: a pretty good number. I mean that that's a number 503 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: saying that they don't you know, they always make us 504 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: don't trust Anthony Brown. So Anthony Brown is just himself. 505 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: They'll win nine games, right, they'll they'll they'll lose to 506 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: Ohio State, they'll split Washington Utah on the road, and 507 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: maybe they drop one other one, right, and they're nine 508 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: and three. That's how it goes. If anything, Brown is 509 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: better than expected, they can still lose to Ohio State, 510 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: but then they're gonna probably beat Washington and I don't 511 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be very good this year. Sorry Husky 512 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: fans for me otherwise, and then Utah I think will 513 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: be really good and win those games at Utah will 514 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: be tough, and then you know, of course there's other 515 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: you know, landfalls here and there. I think nine is 516 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: the perfect number for them this year. I would I 517 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: would wager the over, but I didn't put money on 518 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: them this year, so I probably will bet them plus 519 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: ten in Ohio State, just at a principle because I 520 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: want to. But that's about That's about it. 521 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: For them right now, your favorite team. 522 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but I actually think ten. I actually 523 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: think if it gets to ten and a half, especially 524 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: it's a ten and a half's a good number for 525 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: that game. 526 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: The bye week is October ninth. If Anthony Brown does 527 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: not work out, or if Anthony Brown gets hurt, there 528 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 3: is a quarterback of the future on the roster that 529 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: you could get in early on if you are a 530 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: believer in ty Thompson, who is the incoming blue chip 531 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 3: quarterback who's been there already. He's a freshman. And so 532 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: the bye week is after Stanford and before Cal. There'll 533 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: be a tough defense in Cal there, but you do 534 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: have that opportunity if I am not a believer in 535 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: an eleven win Oregon team this year. But I see 536 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: the point, I see the reality in the rationale. 537 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: Yeah again, I think people don't pay attention to the 538 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Pac twelve And this is why the last two years 539 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: have been over fifty five percent the Pack twelve conference, 540 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: which we don't always give out Pack twef waiters on 541 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: our show because we have a national audience. But I 542 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: don't think people pay attention to what's happening out West. 543 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: I think Tyler you're about to ask some win totals. 544 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: I like, well, Stanford at three and a half is 545 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: silly to me. I don't really. I mean, even if 546 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: they're not good three, they're gonna win four games with 547 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: with David Shaw and like that and the town. They 548 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: do have some talent on their team. Now, they have 549 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: a tough schedule because they you know, they're the only 550 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: team that has all Power five Conference opponents. But they're 551 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna beat Vanderbilt, right do we agree on that? Like, 552 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat Kansas State. They're Washington State, are they? 553 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: Kansas State has a legit quarter. They are favored by 554 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: one and a half. And that's the weird body game 555 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: on the y. That's a bad excuse. Organ is not 556 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: using that excuse when they play. 557 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: I will I will. 558 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell myself, 559 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Like I've been kind of vocal about this, like I'm 560 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of not in this for like moral victories against 561 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State business, Like I'm just not in it for 562 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: that either. In the game, we don't. Okay, So they 563 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: have Kansas State at USC at Vanderbilt, so look, they 564 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: should beat Vanderbilt. UCLA is going to be a toss up. 565 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Oregon is at home, but that's the it's an organ 566 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: home game at Arizona State. I'm not as high as 567 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: Arizona State as others are, you know, the Washington State, Washington, Utah, 568 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: Organ State. I mean, three and a half just seems often. 569 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: That's a very low number. Well, we did when we 570 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: did our preview show and we talked through the over under, 571 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: we both got to three and a half for Stanford 572 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: and we were like, oh, I get where Vegas is 573 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: coming from, but that's kind of low. 574 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that has not made much sense to 575 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: me for for Stanford. As far as other wind totals, 576 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: I haven't done that much on the college shot. As 577 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: far as win totals, I think they're hard to again, 578 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: unless you focus on one specific conference. They're kind of 579 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: hard to do in general. Like if you just look 580 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: at the landscape and you're just like, oh, I'm gonna 581 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: I think Alabama over. I mean sure that that works, 582 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: but like it's I think it's hard to do unless 583 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: you focus on one conference and you study that conference 584 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: inside out to know whether or not that those teams 585 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: can hit those hit those numbers. 586 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and plus you lock your money up right now, 587 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 2: and you're stuck waiting all season long to see if 588 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: you cash the bet. 589 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: I used to feel that way about futures, but I 590 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: kind of don't anymore because they can. You can make 591 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: money if you think, if you think, I mean, obviously 592 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: everyone thinks they're right, but if you know, if you 593 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: do it, if you do it to what you think 594 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: is right, you you manage your bank roll, there can 595 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: be a payoff at the end if you choose wise 596 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: the pus. It also ways to get you know, to 597 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: get money in now based on of off. You know, 598 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: there's early lines out now, there's week one week, well 599 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: week zero, week one week two lines out and if 600 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: you like some numbers, it's not really the future's bet, 601 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: but you know, the numbers move and there's ways to 602 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: get some good numbers. It's some good numbers. 603 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: Now, I see like what I will look at with futures. 604 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 2: And again I don't have data behind this, but let me. 605 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: Let me find teams that have a combination of an experienced, 606 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: at least decent quarterback and a promising defense. If I 607 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 3: can get that duel, that's what I go for. And 608 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: I was going to bring up Miami when we were 609 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: talking about playoff of it's like, okay, if Derek King 610 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: is healthy and is once again a playmaker and once 611 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: again has emerging skill talent and is protected. I like 612 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: the defense enough. I like their schedule enough that like, look, 613 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: if they they lose comfortably to Alabama in Week one, 614 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: so be it. That's the best loss anybody's going to 615 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: have because it can say it was Alabama and it 616 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: was early, so they've improved. So that's that's an element 617 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 3: to me. So a team like Pitt, for example, Pitt 618 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: has an over runner. I know you haven't looked at pit, 619 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 3: but like it's at seven right now, and they have 620 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: a very experienced quarterback. They have one of the better 621 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: receivers in the country to me, and Jordan Addison, and 622 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: they have a defense that should once again be pretty 623 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 3: strong upfront. That to me is what I look for 624 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: in terms of dependability of going over a win total 625 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: depending on the number. 626 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think anytime you can those two things 627 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned typically carry out without a year, right, If 628 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: you have a good defense, you typically stay good, right. 629 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen obviously situations where we think someone 630 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: will be good on defense and they're not. But typically 631 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: if you're good, you start the year good, you don't 632 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: get in the track. Question is yeah, quarterback, you're right, 633 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, dynamic quarterbacks is everything. Now. If you can 634 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: make plays outside the pocket with your legs, then you 635 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: transform your offense right. Plays that you know, third and twelve, 636 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Now it's a fifteen yard run. It's 637 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: a first down. That makes things different. Now it's hard 638 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: to handicap those, or you can't rely on those, I think, 639 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: but it is a big part of your evaluation for 640 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: season win totals. 641 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ty, do you have any wind totals that you 642 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: are looking at particularly wide eyed? 643 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: I think the one that jumped out at me that 644 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: we talked about was Arizona State. I am I am 645 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: one of the folks that's high on Arizona State this year, 646 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: so not as much, not as much. 647 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: Why, Like I just I just this is everyone I 648 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: don't seem not to get it. What am I missing here? 649 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Because I think they're they proven nothing since Herm's been 650 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: there about what they thought they were going to be. Like, 651 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: what is it about them? 652 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: Well? I mean, I really like Jane Daniels first and 653 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: foremost agreed last year was up and down right. It 654 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: wasn't anyone's best year, especially in the Pac twelve because 655 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: the only played four games. But I really like Jane Daniels. 656 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: I take last year with a grain of salt. I 657 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: like their running back a great deal. He averaged over 658 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: ten yards to carry. They bring a lot back across 659 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: the field, and so I like their experience. It feels 660 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: to me like the pack tole South is wide open, 661 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: and it doesn't strike me as the kind of schedule 662 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: that's got a whole lot of killers on it. I mean, 663 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: they've got a road game at BYU, which okay, it's winnable. 664 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: They're at UCLA, They're at Utah, they're at Washington. I 665 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: mean those aren't easy places to go, mind you, but 666 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to me like it's anything too far 667 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: beyond It's like the sixtieth toughest schedule in the country. 668 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: So it lines up pretty well. They bring twenty guys back. 669 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, miss Oregon, and I mean it's it's 670 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: at Utah at Washington are the two obvious obvious losses. 671 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: And then outside of that, like, okay, if you love Ucla, 672 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: I get it. And that was a close game. That 673 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: ASU I think fumbled away in the red zone. But 674 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: and then it's also twenty twenty. The case for ASU 675 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: is that there's not a lot of obvious losses. The 676 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: case against ASU is what have they consistently done under 677 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: Herm Edwards to make you feel like this is a 678 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: year where they make that. It's fair they're deeper now. 679 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: I think they're I think they're a lot deeper than 680 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: at any point in you know, Herm's tenure there. I 681 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: have questions, Like, for as much as I like Jane Daniels, 682 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: I have questions about who's he throwing to. Like, they 683 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: have some big tight ends and that's cool. It just 684 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: had a big injury right up front on their defensive line. 685 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 1: If it's a lot of the other best defensive linements out, 686 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, but James always had pro guys 687 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: to throw too. He doesn't have that This year. 688 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: He doesn't have that, And that's that's a real question. 689 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 2: Who is his number one target out why? But outside that, 690 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: outside that, I feel pretty good. 691 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: I think thirty three percent of his completions last year 692 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: we're in play action pass. That's a high number. That's 693 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: that's high to run offense like that all season long 694 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: and is kind of short. Intermediate passes just aren't as 695 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: good right now. And it's hard for me to believe 696 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: that a team like that's going to just all of 697 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: a sudd and you know, jump out into some some 698 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: some team that I try. I just and also too, 699 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't really like the way Herm Edwards kind of 700 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: plays college football games like he plays them like pro games, right. 701 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: He wants them to be one possession games at the 702 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: end of the season, at the end of the season, 703 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, I just got to 704 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: keep the fund the pedal the entire game. And I 705 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: know he said he wants to be do that more 706 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: on offense. That's why he hired Zach Hill, It's why 707 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: they made some changes on defense as well. I just 708 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: kind of have to see it. I'm always a fan 709 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: who is going to say, hey, I'm going to see 710 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: it before I basically buy it, right, And I this 711 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: way in NFL and college I just have a hard 712 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: time buying teams and players. And I love James Dams. 713 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the PAC twelve, you 714 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: know he's the better pro than Keidan Slovas in my opinion. 715 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: But I just I gotta see them finish games better 716 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: and kind of play for blowouts, play play a step 717 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: on people's throats. And they're down three coaches now too, 718 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like they're what's gonna happen with their coaching staff. 719 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: I have some Week one lines, by the way, we 720 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: talk about a sort of easier start. Do any of 721 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: these jump out to you naked like that? You just 722 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: haven't necessarily given a lot of deep dot too, because 723 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: they're still a couple weeks out. But we have Penn 724 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: State and Wisconsin playing, and that's Wisconsin favor by four 725 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: and a half. Stanford is a point and a half. 726 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: We talked about that briefly against k State. Alabama's about 727 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: eighteen and a half right now against Miami neutral field, 728 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: Georgia Clemson. That's a lot neutral field in your backyard. 729 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: Clemson favored by three and a half. LSU favored by 730 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: three and a half in LA in Pasadena against UCLA, 731 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: and Notre Dame seven and a half point favorite against 732 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: Florida State on the road. 733 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: So I bet Ucla already at plus four, that line's 734 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: going to move to least a field goal before kickoff. 735 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: They play Week one, they're gonna beat Hawaii. They're going 736 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: to be a national TV They're going to look good 737 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: doing So. We talk a lot about experience coming back 738 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: this year, and I think that's too much has made 739 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: this year of experience because everyone has guys returning, but 740 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: they are at all different levels of returning, right. I mean, 741 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: some guys out West only played six games last year. 742 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: To me, that's not enough to be a returning starter. 743 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: UCLA has veteran returnings. They have guys that have played 744 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: a lot of football. Right, two years ago, they were 745 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: the youngest team in the country. Now they're one of 746 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: the oldest teams in the country. And if DTR can 747 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: just not turn the ball over for once, I mean 748 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: they have a chance. And I think LSU look at 749 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation with their with their you know, their 750 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: competition being basically derailed because of a broken arm. They're 751 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: going to Ucla. I think this is a good chance 752 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: for UCLA to really to kind of start the Pats 753 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: off season off, right, So I have I have them there. 754 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: I think I think George is the play at plus 755 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: three and a half, right, you get that that hook 756 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: over the field goal. They have a returning starting quarterback. 757 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: It's super important and everyone I have talked to who 758 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: studies quarterbacks saying Jacon Daniel is going to have an 759 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: incredible year, like potentially a Joe Burrowes year. We're out 760 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: of nowhere. It's like boom, he's the first pick overall. 761 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: And people that I trust cover quarterbacks have said this, 762 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: and I get a little over a field goal with 763 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: a really good defense with again, angle Leley is making 764 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: his second start, third. 765 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: Start, Yeah, third start it was BC Notre Dame, and 766 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: now I. 767 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: Mean he's so again, like I just I think George 768 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: is good play there. 769 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgia should have I mean, per tide. 770 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: Georgia has the best returning SEC defensive line, if not 771 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: the best defensive line in the country. And again, if 772 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 3: you combine that with quarterback play, a high level quarterback play, 773 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: and we saw Brent Venables struggle a little bit, you know, 774 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: Ian Book made plays at the end of the loss. 775 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 3: And then obviously Justin Fields really took the top off 776 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: of the Clemson defense. 777 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: And if JT. 778 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 3: Daniels is on that level, this is you know, it's 779 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 3: a really tough task for the Clemson defense, as talented 780 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 3: as they are on all three levels, to go against, 781 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 3: to go against JT. Daniels especially, you know, depending on 782 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 3: receiver health where they're at that one. 783 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: I think there's also looking out west too. I mean 784 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: San Jose stayed at plus sixteen and at USC is 785 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. I don't know what santes Say's defense 786 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: is going to be. This is ready to do a 787 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: little more research. But that's not a I don't know, man, 788 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: I just the USC thing to me. I just I 789 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: don't buy USC. I just don't. But they'll win this game. 790 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: But sixteen points at home Santessey State's good, I mean 791 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: good for what they are. I don't know, Dan, that 792 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: feels like a lot of points. 793 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, who are you into in the PAC twelve? Because 794 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: so far you're not. You're not into Washington, into US. 795 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: Watch like for like what's the concept for making the playoff? 796 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: Or just in general? No, no, just in general? Who 797 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: do you who do you like? You feel like is 798 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: moving up board? 799 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: Ye, Organ's moving upward. And just a quarterback situation which 800 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: for so long, again we haven't had to worry about 801 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: for so many years. We've been good at core, Like 802 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: I like Utah a lot. This year, you know, we'll 803 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: find out who who's starting a quarterback? I think it 804 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: would be Brewer, but I think they actually they'd hope 805 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: it's Cam Rising, right because Cam has more years left. 806 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Brewer is just a stop gap guys that are really 807 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: physical on the offensive defensive lines. The issue is is 808 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: skill position players. They don't have kind of that go 809 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: to guy. I know obviously Keithy is one of those 810 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: guys at tight end, but you kind of need a 811 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver. So we'll find out how. 812 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: They're healthier at receiver than where they were last year yet. 813 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: But they still kind of don't have that guy emerging 814 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: really is that number one wide receiver threat. But every 815 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: game they'll be in because of their physicality and I 816 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: think quarterback play basically what Tyler Hunty did for them, 817 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: they're going to be really good. Yeah. I mean, look, Washington, 818 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: I just the offense to me doesn't do it for me. 819 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: I mean, he can't be like one hundred and tenth 820 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: in explosive plays and would be collegetball games. You'll be 821 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: in every game. You're not gonna be good teams if 822 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: you can't chuck the ball deft and all the wide 823 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: receivers left. I think that's kind of a sign that maybe, yeah, 824 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: maybe we're not throwing the ball very much. I mean, 825 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 1: their head coach Warre Hatter said run the damn ball, 826 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: like like, come on, man. I mean even Mark Crystaball 827 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: is not wearing that hat and he likes to run 828 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: the football. 829 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 3: I like to say during our previews that at a 830 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 3: certain point you have to win thirty five, you have 831 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: to score thirty five points. Yeah, at a certain point 832 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: somebody's going to make you score thirty five, and you 833 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: have to be able to flip that switch. 834 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: And Utah is not alone in that. 835 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: You know, they are, as you mentioned, led by the 836 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage play, and you know they served the 837 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 3: defense and ball control on offense, and they were actually 838 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: pretty dynamic a couple of years ago, but they still 839 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 3: didn't have that game breaker for what was Tyler Huntley 840 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 3: started a couple of years ago, and it showed in 841 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 3: the PAC twelve championship game. So I get, I get 842 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: what you're saying. Ty Do you have any more gambling 843 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: questions about college football? 844 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: Well, now, I mean my I was just going to 845 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: add one other anecdote about the Week one slate. We 846 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: pulled six of the games here that we thought were 847 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: interesting that notre Dame. Do you remember back when we 848 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: started talking about early lines, and I think when we 849 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: read out the Notre Dame Florida state line, oh any 850 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 2: movies of it was eating Yeah, it was Notre Dame 851 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 2: minus nine and a half. And I remember saying to you, look, 852 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: Notre Dame could well beat Florida State eight. That line 853 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 2: is coming down if you like me, and like half 854 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: the world now have just some mild concerns about what 855 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: Notre Dame will look like with Jack Cohne as their 856 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: starting quarterbacks. 857 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 1: I saw that that's not good. 858 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: Taking Florida State at home big game week, one new 859 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: quarterback who could set the world on fire. Who knows 860 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: they were getting nine and a half a couple months ago. 861 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: I think that was a good play. I still kind 862 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: of like it at plus seven and a half because 863 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: I am not buying what I've been reading about folks 864 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: who are high on Jack Cone just not I'm not 865 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: buying him as a vertical threat as somebody who can 866 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: play off the play action pass. 867 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you know, Jack con is not going to 868 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: be very dynamic, right, So when you're in a situation 869 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: like that, this is the same thing I worried about 870 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: the organ thing, right is when your quarterback's not dynamic, 871 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: everything has to go right on the road for you, 872 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: right like everything you have to your often has to 873 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: play well, Diava has to play well. You have to 874 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: find supposed to play somehow, and the margin air is 875 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: much smaller when you don't have that. Now, the talent 876 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: level not it Ame though, is just so far ahead 877 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: of Florida State right now. I mean that's that's the issue, 878 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: is that, like when and and that's so you can 879 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 1: overcome that quarterback by just having better players all over 880 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: the field. I like Mike Norvell, I like them at 881 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: Memphis is a seven. I mean you're stoking that Hoko 882 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: the touchdown. I don't have a great feel on this one. 883 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: No, I mean it feels like it's about the right number, 884 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: to be honest with you. It feels like it's right 885 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: the right week. It's the right week for Florida State 886 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: to get Notre Dame right because death doesn't come into it, 887 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: because it's week one. You have the emotion of it 888 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: being a home opener and against a huge team, and 889 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: that you know players are going to be playing maybe 890 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 2: outside of themselves, like that's Situationally it is a really 891 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: nice time to take. 892 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 3: A home dog. The problem is Florida State's defense was 893 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: so atrocious last year. 894 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: I worry about looking at looking at the numbers right now, 895 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of money in a Florida State. 896 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: That kind of scares me off. Like, if everyone's betting 897 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: Florida State, it's not like sharp movement that's moving this number. 898 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: It's just the public is so on at Florida State. 899 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: It's why that number came down. 900 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why if it came down because a 901 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: sharp movement, I'd be like, Okay, let's go that direction. 902 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: That's one thing to look at if you have access 903 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: to numbers and when you're gambling this year, if we're 904 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: looking for sharp movement, it's a good way to go. Again, 905 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be home underdogs who you know, and 906 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: you're fading the public essentially on those Again, it's hard 907 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: to bite the bullet sometimes and do that, But Florida 908 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: State feels like a public dog. That to me just 909 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 1: kind of scares me away. 910 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: So Jeff, explain that for people who are listening and 911 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: don't know what what the sharp movement is or how 912 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: to feel. So explain what that means it is hard. 913 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: To find unless you have access to to like dating, 914 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, to numbers and whatnot. You can look this up. 915 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: But basically you want to look and this is how 916 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: I gamble on baseball to how I do basketball. All 917 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: the times, you're not really gambling on the matchup. You're 918 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: gambling on what the sharps are telling you. Right, there's 919 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: people that are better at this than we are. Right 920 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: that their livelihood is based off of their sports wagering. 921 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: And so when they go into a sports book and 922 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: they put money down, that line moves because they say, 923 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, the sports book's like, look this if this one, 924 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: if this person who we know wins a lot, likes 925 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: a game, we're taking big money from him. We have 926 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: to move the line in that direction to hopefully get 927 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: money from the other side, right, because you want to 928 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, a sports book really wants to almost have 929 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: even money, right, They don't want to have so much 930 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: in one in one direction. And so you can tell. 931 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: And again typically the good betters, the ones who make money, 932 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: go against the public, right, because the public is media 933 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: as us. Right, We're Joe Schmo. We just stole money 934 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: down on the big favorite at home or whoever else. 935 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: And so if you look and you have access to 936 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know where you would be able to get. 937 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: Action Network has it. By the way, if you're I 938 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: don't want to pump them up, but if you use 939 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: Action Network app to have the betting percentages, right, So 940 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: if you see a game where one team is at 941 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: seventy percent of tickets or it so seventy percent of 942 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: people are wagering on that team, and like eighty five 943 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: percent of the money, okay, or really you know, seventy 944 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: percent of the money, right, So all the money and 945 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: all the tickets are on that team, and the other 946 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: team has thirty percent of tickets and thirty percent of money, 947 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: and the line moves in that team's direction, right, so 948 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: it opens up it minus seven for the public favorite, 949 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: and it goes now to minus six, minus five and 950 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: a half minus five. They're telling you the sharp money 951 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: is hammering the other side, right, the non public side, 952 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: the side with a little bit of money on it, 953 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: and they're moving in that direction. Those end up winning again. 954 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: A lot of times it's home dogs. It's like rutcurse, right, 955 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: it's bad home dogs that you don't want to wager on. 956 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: But they end up in the end you have to 957 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: hold your nose and bet them they end up covering 958 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: for you. 959 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: So there you go. Florida State home dog of the Week. 960 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: Could happen. 961 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: No, No, the opposite's happening where it's it's public money 962 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: is driving, public money is going to public money is 963 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: going to Florida State. So those are the ones if 964 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: you really you want it. Like I I've learned over 965 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: the years now to just stay away from those games 966 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: unless I have a really strong feel for Florida State, 967 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: if I knew something about them that no one else new, 968 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: or you know, or just like had a great you know, 969 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: had a great tidbit about them, or there's something specific 970 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: I liked about what they're doing that you know, you 971 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: feel that sort of way. I'm trying to find an 972 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: example for you guys of some of this reverse called 973 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: reverse line movement that I could find in week one. 974 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious on on where that would be. 975 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: It's hard to find. I think it's so early in 976 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: this so early in the season. 977 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we still have time. Something that you mentioned heading 978 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: into the beginning of this show was the preparation for 979 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: the season and the excitement for the season and that 980 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: it's a slog, it's a long season. And I started 981 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: thinking about, obviously, this is what I do. This is 982 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: what we do on Big Boy Bets. Subscribe now Big 983 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: Boy Bets we do it once a week and talk 984 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: college football, gambling, Jeff and myself. Is the fact that 985 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 2: there is an element to pacing yourself like you might 986 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: at a buffet, and on Big Boy Bets we talk 987 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: about both college football gambling issues and sometimes issues facing 988 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 2: large humans, of which Jeff is one. And do you 989 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 2: have I'm just curious, do you have buffet strategy? Do 990 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 2: you have I don't know if it's a breakfast buffet, 991 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a Vegas buffet. We want 992 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 2: to tie it more closely to gambling, but in terms 993 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: of quality or not so quality foods, you're stay aways, right, 994 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: This is both. Yeah, this is terminology because I like 995 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: a good buffet, of course, but I think you have 996 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 2: to have a philosophy and a strategy and a way 997 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 2: of doing things as you approach and not just to 998 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: go in and just grab everything that you think is 999 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: going to be good. 1000 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think the strategy is is limited your carbs, right, 1001 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: is kind of stay away from, Stay away from, like 1002 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: heavy potatoes, Like why do you need to get any 1003 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: set of potato to buffet? Less? It's a like like 1004 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: a French fry of some sort, right, looks like something 1005 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: that like baked potato, scalop potatoes, mashed potatoes, or just 1006 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: a waste in your stomach. They're just a waste stomach. 1007 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: You don't get bread at a buffet, like, don't get 1008 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: heavy pasta at a buffet in my opinion, Like, just 1009 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: don't do that. You want to get stuff in my opinion, 1010 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: And this way I eat out now, I tympically don't 1011 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: get stuff at a restaurant. I can make it home, 1012 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: like a steakhouse, I'm not getting a steak. I can 1013 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: make a stake at home. I don't make a rack 1014 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: of land very often at home. I just don't. I 1015 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: don't make a pork chop very often at home. Yeah, 1016 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: I don't make I don't make a lot of things 1017 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: like that at home anymore. So if I'm in a buffet, 1018 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: I'm looking at like the seafood that I don't make 1019 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: it home, looking for any sort of you know, maybe 1020 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: there's a prime rib, which I've done at home many times. 1021 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: But it's a delicacy. R. I'm not eating it very often, 1022 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: so I'm looking for things that I'm typically not going 1023 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: to find or make very easily at home. 1024 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 3: You're also getting you're also getting a custom situation with 1025 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 3: if there's a carving station, if. 1026 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: You want an end, I want a center. 1027 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: Cut and cut it's it's you know, they're they're a 1028 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: little they're a little overcooked, of course, right because it's peace. 1029 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: But the crust and that makes up for the salttle, 1030 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: a juice, sauce. It doesn't great, it makes up for 1031 00:46:59,320 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: it very well. 1032 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: A good end cut isn't overcooked. It's just more cooked 1033 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 2: than the center. But yeah, that's media. Yeah it's not 1034 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 2: gonna be Yeah it's not medium. 1035 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: Well it's just medium, so it Yeah, that's my buffets trick. 1036 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: I've've been a buffe in a long time. Man, I can't. 1037 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 3: Do you save room for dessert or do you think 1038 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 3: that it's a waste because it's not going to be 1039 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 3: that great. 1040 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a dessert person, so I'm not saving room 1041 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: for dessert. 1042 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 2: Ty, do you have buffet strategy? 1043 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: Not really? 1044 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: I up until like buffets, No, not really. I think 1045 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: I think you pay for novelty with a buffet, right 1046 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 2: pay you pay for options, you pay for novelty. But 1047 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 2: for me, it's not really worth it. Not because I 1048 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: can't put down some food. I can put down some food, sure, 1049 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: I just don't feel like I get the value out 1050 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 2: of it. Like I'm not going to try all the options. 1051 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: There's only like five things up there that I really 1052 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 2: want to eat. 1053 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: This is why you go for the exotic type foods there, 1054 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: because you get your money's worth it. You get the 1055 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: foods you're not going to have at home. Of course, 1056 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: look the three of us together, I used to eat 1057 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: this way. I don't anymore. Yeah, we're not getting our 1058 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: seventy five dollars worth at the at the Palazzo buffet. 1059 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm going back to Vegas this weekend. I'm not going bfet. 1060 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get my money's worth there. I 1061 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 1: just try to get my money's worth if we ever 1062 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: go there. Some of the way, my wife does not 1063 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: like buffets, so that's not like that's not really an issue. 1064 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 2: This could be anything. 1065 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 3: This could be just like you're at a hotel and 1066 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 3: it's just a breakfast BFFE. That's what they have available, 1067 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 3: So breakfast. 1068 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: Cafe again, Like, I'm going right to begel and locks. 1069 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: If they have a lox, that's that's one hundred percent 1070 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: favorite breakfast food by far. I mean a good like 1071 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: we've we've actually placed down the street here in Charlotte, 1072 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: the only bagel place in Charlotte that's worth any salt, 1073 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,959 Speaker 1: like a good bagel. Man. Look, you know the little 1074 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: crunch on the outside. 1075 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 2: The cars breakfast, you go for the carbs. 1076 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: But just a bagel. I'm not getting no awful yeah breakfast. 1077 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: And then I like, you know, some buffets have different 1078 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: type of sausages, right, I'm not bacon in pork sausage. 1079 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: I can make it at home, right, But I'm not 1080 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: gonna gonna have a chicken apple sausag. I'm not going 1081 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: to have a killbossa. I'm not gonna have any other 1082 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: sort of sausage I typically have at home. So I'm 1083 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: going the kind of the again, the other realm, right, 1084 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,479 Speaker 1: the things I can't get at home. 1085 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 2: You're not filling salmon all that often. 1086 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: I'm not making my own, even though I probably will 1087 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: be fun to try to make my own smoke sarea 1088 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: some locks, Oh god, is well, it's actually you here 1089 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: the salmon, right, that turns into locks. 1090 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Cure the salmon. 1091 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like the toast, it's actually bread, 1092 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: but then when you toast it, it can be called toast, right, 1093 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: Like you don't. 1094 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 3: You know these are all facts. You all check out. 1095 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 3: We have a fact checker right outside of the camera. 1096 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 3: And she said, yeah, no that's true. 1097 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you only yeah, you only eat Yeah, toast is 1098 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: actually bread toasted. It's not just a thing, it's not 1099 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: its own thing. 1100 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 3: What Okay, So I'll tell you mine real quick, because 1101 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 3: obviously I have one tie doesn't have a specific strategy. 1102 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 3: I avoid foods that I feel like could dry out 1103 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 3: pretty easily under a heating lamp. So chicken, especially if 1104 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 3: you're talking to any sort of kebab or chicken breast. 1105 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 3: I love chicken kebabs, but you need it right off 1106 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 3: of the grill because of the dry out. 1107 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: Correct. 1108 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 3: Even a lot of those breads, like if it's like 1109 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 3: a pizza flatbread, it's drying out. There's just it's too 1110 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 3: easy for those things to dry out. So I'm going 1111 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 3: to lean towards things stews, things that are in gravies 1112 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 3: at least, like I'm gonna they're gonna stay relatively moist, 1113 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: they're gonna stay warm and flavorful because they're in some 1114 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 3: sort of flavoring juice. I'll go in that direction. Even 1115 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 3: like crab legs, like Jeff mentioned, those are steamed, those 1116 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 3: aren't going to dry out as easily as perhaps something 1117 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,919 Speaker 3: that's baked and sitting under a lamp. 1118 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: They're just hard to deal with it. 1119 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 2: It's too much, it's not worth it. I won't. 1120 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 3: I probably won't do crab legs just because of I 1121 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 3: don't want activity with my meal. 1122 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 2: I just want to sit down and eat. But in 1123 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 2: those directions like if if, if there's some sort of dish, 1124 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 2: like I'll hit a soup because it's not drying out. 1125 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 2: I don't typically tend to go desserts, but I can 1126 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 2: be seduced by a good looking chocolate chip cookie breakfast wise, 1127 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 2: I will immediately. And I learned this from my father 1128 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: in law. I will if I want like an English muffin, 1129 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: if I want a piece of toast with some eggs 1130 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 2: or something like that, I hit that first. 1131 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 3: I throw that in the toaster before I start collecting 1132 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 3: my other because then I can sort round back after 1133 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm done, collecting eggs, I look very closely at I 1134 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 3: love scrambled eggs, but those dry out easily, so I'm 1135 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 3: almost keeping an eye on the egg pan to see 1136 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 3: when it's being replaced. And that's when i make my move, 1137 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 3: Almost like an order of at a wedding. I I'd 1138 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 3: like to know how long the scrambled to wait by 1139 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 3: the door, right, you absolutely have to wait by the door. 1140 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: But Daniel, lot of those buffets have a omelet station. 1141 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 2: That's so, that's great. If it's an omelet station, I'm 1142 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 2: totally in. I typically prefer a scramble to an omelet, 1143 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 2: so I'll ask for that. But yeah, if you can 1144 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 2: get that custom omelet, I'm definitely going in that direction. 1145 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 2: We've had a lot of omelet conversation on the show. 1146 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 2: Ty considers himself to be super duper advanced in the world. 1147 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: What's an advanced omelet take? 1148 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 2: An advanced omelet take? I don't know if I have 1149 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: an advanced omelet take. 1150 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 3: What do you look for in an omelet guy or 1151 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 3: gal like that that differentiates a good one from a 1152 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 3: bad one. 1153 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,720 Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking specifically at the outside of the omelet 1154 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 2: m hm. Course, I like to see it a nice 1155 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: rich color of yellow. That tells me that they cooked 1156 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 2: it low and slow. They're very deliberate about the way 1157 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 2: that they went about it. If it's got brown or 1158 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 2: any kind of crust on the outside, that means they 1159 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 2: cooked it a little too hot, too fast, so they 1160 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 2: were in a hurry. They weren't putting the level of 1161 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 2: artistry into it that I think you require. So that's 1162 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 2: the first thing. And the second thing is that the 1163 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 2: ingredients inside are cooked properly, because a lot of times 1164 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 2: you might go somewhere again, almlet where and it could 1165 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 2: be things like mushrooms, things like broccoli, really whatever you're into, 1166 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 2: if they're too unless you like it raw in there, 1167 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 2: depending on what you're so, do you like a pre 1168 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 2: cooked vegie? Veg the veggies beforehand, and they should, they should, 1169 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: but sometimes you get them they're a little al dente, 1170 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 2: and that's that's not the mark of a good almost. 1171 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 1: I don't put I don't put vegetables with almonds. That's 1172 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: not my I don't like running almonds. I'll tell you 1173 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: what can I think my biggest, my biggest pet peeve 1174 00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: of all maybe all food, is when you someone makes 1175 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: a burrito for you and they don't melt the cheese 1176 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: before handing it to you, like Chapotle just throws the 1177 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: cheese on there and wraps it up in hand. No, 1178 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: you have to melt the cheese on the on the 1179 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: flat top before handing it to me. Throwing cold cheese 1180 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: into a warm, wet burrito is disgusting. 1181 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 2: I agree. I happen to agree, and so many places 1182 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: will do that. 1183 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: No, but my place back home does it. All the 1184 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: matter is my place back home. But go into I 1185 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: was like fifteen years old. They they wrap it up, 1186 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: put it back on the flat top, and cook it 1187 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: to kind of crispy outside a little bit, but melt 1188 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: the cheese. 1189 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I do. Even when I get. 1190 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 3: So like there's a place called Dos Tarros in New York, 1191 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 3: or I get a burrito here in the Chicago Burbs, 1192 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 3: I will unwrap it out of the foil and I 1193 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 3: will put it in a pan myself to crisp it 1194 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 3: up before I eat it. Because if you're not eating 1195 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 3: a burrito crispy, you are selling yourself short the burrito experience, 1196 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 3: and you're also not getting the cheese as melty. 1197 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 2: As it should be. I agree. I think that's a 1198 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 2: great take. 1199 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: People in mind. 1200 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 3: That's our very brief intro into breakfast foods and buffets 1201 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: and as it might relate. But yeah, I haven't been 1202 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 3: to a giant buffet in a long time, and I 1203 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 3: don't know that I like craving it. But if I 1204 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 3: find myself there, I'd rather. 1205 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: Spend money on like a good ball of ramen, like 1206 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: a good burrito, some tacos, and go to a buffet. 1207 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 3: No, I agree, but sometimes you just find yourself in 1208 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 3: that situation. If you're like in an all inclusive resort, 1209 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 3: that can happen. Sometimes we're just like, Okay, this is 1210 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 3: what we're dealing with. And like, I've had great all 1211 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,439 Speaker 3: inclusive buffets. I had great one in Mexico. I still 1212 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 3: remember it. They were doing great things. 1213 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: Ours is yeah, Urson, we went to Mexico in February's fantastic. 1214 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 3: So all right, that's that's buffet talk. That thus concludes 1215 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 3: buffet strategy that I'm now actually going I'm gonna forget 1216 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 3: something that I meant to mention. It's going to annoy me, 1217 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: and then I'll just bring it up on big Boy bets, 1218 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 3: which I think we're gonna do. The first episode the 1219 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 3: twenty fifth. We'll do a national preview on the twenty fifth, 1220 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 3: which is before week zero, so we'll also talk week zero, 1221 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 3: and then we will re our following one before week one, 1222 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: so that'll be on like it'll come out. They're coming 1223 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 3: out Thursdays all season long. Big boy Bets. Just go 1224 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 3: wherever you listen to podcasts and subscribe, follow Big boy Bets. 1225 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 3: Get in on it. It's Jeff and I. It's college football, 1226 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 3: it's large human issues and. 1227 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,919 Speaker 2: I don't know, we're gonna have some fun. 1228 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: I cannot wait for the season to gamble on it. 1229 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 2: TI. That's all I have. Big boy Bets. Dot show 1230 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 2: is where you can find thank you a little bit 1231 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: more informations. Sign up for updates Big boy Bets again 1232 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 2: on our very own Solivrable network. Mister Schwartz, it is 1233 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 2: always a pleasure to have you on. 1234 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: Thank You. 1235 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 2: We will have to have you back very soon to 1236 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 2: maybe suss out some other gambling picks here and uh 1237 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 2: and get your views. It's always fun. Thank you, all right, Dan, 1238 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 2: That is Jeff Schwartz. Yeah, Fox Sports. Jeff Schwartz is 1239 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 2: smarter than you. Serious x M. Jeff Schwartz knows what 1240 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 2: he's doing. He's a funny guy. Mm hmmm. I love 1241 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 2: the face strategy. I love the gambling strategy as well. Yeah, 1242 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 2: all sorts of us. 1243 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 3: I think his the general strategy of not just looking 1244 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 3: at where the sharp money is coming into, but also 1245 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 3: being hyper specific with your expertise that if you want 1246 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,240 Speaker 3: to pursue college football gambling on even a casual level whatever, 1247 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 3: just be like a Mountain West expert, be a Conference USA. Now, 1248 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 3: it's harder to gather information sometimes with those smaller conferences 1249 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 3: that you're really going to have to dig deep for 1250 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 3: those those media sources and practice sessions whatever. But if 1251 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 3: you are learning just the general rhythms and tendencies of 1252 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 3: Conference USA, Sun Belt, MAC, Mountain West, just random or 1253 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 3: just random teams that you know historically as you look 1254 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 3: at or coaches or whatever. If you're looking at trends, 1255 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 3: that's the move. That's that's the strategy. It seems that 1256 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 3: you're like it's impossible to learn in great detail the 1257 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 3: national scope for gambling purposes. Now true, if you're pretty specific, 1258 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 3: that makes sense, very true. 1259 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 2: And Jeff has a wealth of knowledge for all things 1260 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 2: out In the PAC twelve, he played in the PAC twelve, 1261 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 2: So it makes a lot of sense. But do stay 1262 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 2: tuned to Big Boy Bets Dot Show. Big Boy Bets 1263 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 2: Dot Show is going to get rolling here. We had 1264 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 2: kind of our pilot season a year ago with you 1265 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 2: and Jeff. It did well, but now obviously there's just 1266 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 2: a lot more momentum as we head into the twenty 1267 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 2: twenty one season and we're excited to get that bad 1268 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 2: boy fire back up again. Big Boy bet Stotch Show. 1269 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 2: That's where you can sign up for updates. We'll send 1270 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 2: some stuff out in advance of that podcast actually starting 1271 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 2: to drop here on Thursdays, as you said, correct, Okay, yeah, absolutely, 1272 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 2: So look here's the deal, one and all, we have 1273 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 2: a couple more shows to get through before we get 1274 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 2: to our Week zero preview, our Week zero preview which 1275 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 2: is going to drop next week next Wednesday, that will 1276 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 2: also feature a Q and A, our last Q and 1277 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: A before we get into the content of this year 1278 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: college football season. Once we get to next Wednesday, then 1279 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 2: this thing starts up. We start cranking the engine up. Dan, 1280 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 2: we do previews on Wednesday, We're going to do our 1281 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 2: fun new news show on Fridays, and then we're going 1282 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 2: to do our recap on Mondays as well. So the 1283 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 2: whole thing is just a cycle. It's going to repeat 1284 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 2: over and over again until we get to the end 1285 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: of the year. Don't forget. If you are a Patreon 1286 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 2: subscriber at Verballers dot com, you get early access to 1287 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 2: all of those shows. So Sunday mornings you also get 1288 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 2: accessed to. No Sunday afternoon excuse me. 1289 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll record Sunday mornings as soon as we humanly 1290 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 3: possibly can. Yeah, watch everything that we didn't watch and 1291 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 3: catch up on everything. Yeah, we're shooting for early afternoon, 1292 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 3: the day before the public gets it. So if you 1293 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 3: are used to. 1294 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 2: A Sunday afternoon recap show, if you're used to know 1295 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 2: a Tuesday evening for your commute home or something like that, 1296 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 2: or you want that Thursday news show for your commute 1297 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,959 Speaker 2: home Thursday, or an afternoon listen Thursday at the gym 1298 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 2: or wherever we got you Forballers dot com. Verballers dot com. 1299 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 2: That is all I have Dan, outside of you going 1300 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 2: to the concert and not telling me about it. I 1301 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: don't know how this slipped under the radar. This is 1302 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 2: a very important topic. Yeah, you and I have done 1303 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 2: a full podcast on with our friend Bill Barnwell, that's true, 1304 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: and you neglected to mention this. I'm over it. It's okay, 1305 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 2: We're still good. But how was the show? Great show? 1306 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: So Wrigley Field, Green Day, Fallout Boy, Weezer hometown show 1307 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 2: for Fallout Boy. Green Day is the headliner on the 1308 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 2: tour for obvious reason. They're an enormous band. They've been 1309 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 2: cranking out hit since like nineteen ninety four. Really, Field 1310 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,919 Speaker 2: did a great job in terms of the sound was good. 1311 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 2: I did bring earplugs because of course, of course you did. 1312 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: You know. 1313 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: We had decent enough seats, not on the field, but 1314 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 2: we were midway up. We were not in the upper 1315 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 2: tier and we were not covered, so we were low 1316 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 2: enough along the first baseline, had a decent view of 1317 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 2: the stage. The screen work was great at the video stuff, 1318 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 2: and we got there right as Weezer began. And Weezer 1319 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 2: did a set that I would if I were to 1320 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 2: predict what they were going to do as a pretty 1321 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 2: big Weezer fan, I think they just they hit the highlights, 1322 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, your hashpipe, your Island in the Sun. They 1323 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 2: played the. 1324 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 3: Only song that I was pleasantly surprised that they played 1325 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 3: was surf Wax America from the Blue album, so they 1326 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: did a good job with that. And yeah, Weezer or 1327 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 3: Rivers has a giant mullet and mustache. Now okas of thing, 1328 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 3: so they're the only problem is it's a sort of 1329 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,439 Speaker 3: triple headliner pseudo headliner, so they all play for an 1330 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: hour plus Green Day is like an hour and a half, 1331 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 3: closer to two hours spending and it's just. 1332 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 2: A long show. 1333 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 3: So Weezer was playing during the daytime, and it's just 1334 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 3: harder to do something cool during the day because you 1335 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: can't play with lights and pyrotechnics to the same effect 1336 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 3: without a night sky. 1337 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 2: So Weezer was good. Fallout Boy had more energy, but 1338 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 2: less stage like. Their way to command Wrigley feel was 1339 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: not that impressive, but their their set excel. Their set 1340 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 2: itself was really fun. And then Green Day, I mean, 1341 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Billy Joe's been doing it, like I said, for so 1342 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 2: long that he has he has the the full Wrigley 1343 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 2: Field in the palm of his hand. 1344 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 3: He is just a showman. He is at center stage 1345 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 3: there and Green Day, you forget how many hits. I 1346 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 3: forgot how many hits they had, and just memorable songs 1347 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 3: and they just they nailed it. They absolutely nailed it. Great, 1348 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 3: great stage work, video work, everything, and I had a 1349 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 3: great time. So it was a last minute. I had 1350 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 3: tickets to go in La last summer. 1351 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 2: I remember that was, and they canceled it because of. 1352 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 3: COVID canceled for COVID at Dodger Stadium, and then I 1353 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 3: had started looking and it was it's really pricey. But 1354 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 3: then Jody with an Eye was on a random Facebook 1355 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 3: board in our neighborhood and somebody had two tickets and 1356 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 3: they said they would eat the fees, and fees are 1357 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,439 Speaker 3: like forty five bucks or something crazy for this show. 1358 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 3: So we jumped on those. And so I went with 1359 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 3: my friend, a lion I fan, Scott of course, who 1360 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 3: is visiting at the moment, and both wearing airplugs, both 1361 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 3: yelling out the songs that we listened to like sophomore 1362 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 3: year of high school. 1363 01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 2: It was great, very cool. Yeah, so look for Ballers 1364 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 2: dot com is the Patreon Go and check it out 1365 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 2: if you're interested, even if you're just interested in the 1366 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 2: teas that I did at the top of the show. 1367 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 2: We have something a little coming. 1368 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 1369 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Don't forget to leave a review if you like the show. 1370 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 2: It does help us now as we get closer to 1371 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 2: the start of the season. Daniel, I think that is 1372 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 2: all the content I am good for today. SAME's that's 1373 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 2: all I have. I'm done for that guy over there. 1374 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm a good friend, Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty Hildon Brandt. 1375 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 2: We will talk to you all in a few days. 1376 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 2: In the meantime, stay solid, peace,