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Speaker 2: On this Tuesday, we'll talk to the new Michigan head coach,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham. He'll join us in twenty minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: He got good news yesterday. Bryce Underwood is quarterback apparently staying.

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Speaker 2: What a weird situation where you go, hey, you know

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Speaker 2: go to lsu In and everybody. But we'll talk to Kyle.

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Speaker 2: take your calls. Seaton, would you give us an update

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Speaker 2: on the poll question from the first hour and what

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Speaker 2: we're looking at hour two of this award nominated program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're actually doing the poll question a little differently today.

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Speaker 3: So if you go to Dan Patrick dot com, you

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Speaker 3: can see there's a thing in the picture right there

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Speaker 3: Click on that link and we'll have you rank the

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Speaker 3: current NFL head coaching openings. So you click that link

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Speaker 3: and then you can basically slide one up to the

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Speaker 3: for the worst.

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Speaker 2: It's also on our Instagram page. Click those results pending. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we had Mike Tannenbaum on. He was a former front

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Speaker 2: office executive for two franchises and it's not a report,

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Speaker 2: but he did bring up the possibility of what about

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza package deal to the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: And I thought I'd be shocked, but you know, you

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Speaker 2: start to think about it. If you're the Raiders, why not?

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Speaker 2: Why not? If you're Tom Brady, swing away, go for it.

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Speaker 2: See if you've got somebody you have to believe that

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti is that guy, because, as Mike Tanebaum also

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Speaker 2: said in the same breath. College coaches don't do well

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Speaker 2: when they go into the NFL. Well, you're asking a

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Speaker 2: guy who's certainly set in his ways, who's in his

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Speaker 2: what mid sixties, and you know, with a magical season here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's one of those, Hey, if

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Speaker 2: he wins the national title type situations, would he be

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Speaker 2: interested in something like that? You know, it's like Marcus

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Speaker 2: Freeman at Notre Dame. The Giants reportedly were interested in him. Now,

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Speaker 2: do I see him as an NFL head coach at

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Speaker 2: some point? Yeah? Probably so. But it's hard to pass

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Speaker 2: up the money that's being spent in college football right now.

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Speaker 2: And you're getting deals that are seven, eight, nine years.

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Speaker 2: You're getting one hundred million dollar deals, and yes, is

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Speaker 2: it a chaotic time with NIO and transfer portals and collectives.

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Speaker 2: You know the fact that you're spending upwards of forty

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Speaker 2: million dollars with some of these programs. And I gave

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Speaker 2: you this information yesterday from my source who said, you

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Speaker 2: kind of have to that's your ballpark figure. Now I

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Speaker 2: thought it was like twenty million. That was, you know,

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Speaker 2: the money that you were going to get for each school.

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Speaker 2: Then there's nil the collectives and see, none of this

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Speaker 2: makes any sense to me or a difference, because, as

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Speaker 2: I've said for years, I kept thinking that if I'm

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Speaker 2: T Boom Pickings when he was alive at Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 2: and I just say, I'm a billionaire, what kind of

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Speaker 2: money do you want? How about I give you forty million,

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Speaker 2: thirty million, do whatever you want? Get me the best team.

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Speaker 2: Well that's what's going on now. All it takes is

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Speaker 2: one guy Texas Tech. One guy goes, you know what,

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Speaker 2: We're going to have a damn good football team here.

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Speaker 2: And they're spending five million dollars reportedly on a quarterback

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Speaker 2: to trans from Cincinnati to Texas Tech. Oh, it's wild.

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Speaker 2: And that's why the so called blue bloods aren't blue

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Speaker 2: bloods anymore. Even in basketball. And this may come as

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Speaker 2: a shock, but players got paid to go to some

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Speaker 2: of these schools. Yeah, believe it or not. Marvin what, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the thought, Yes, now you don't have to pay somebody

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Speaker 2: under the table, but you still can. It's still going on.

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Speaker 2: It's like, Nope, that's the amount of money that you get.

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Speaker 2: Uh what about that money over there? Sh that's where

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Speaker 2: you get to forty and the fifty million dollars and

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Speaker 2: if the players are going to get this, good for them,

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Speaker 2: they have every right to this. Yeah, Ston, there are.

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Speaker 3: Certain topics that we in sports media just can't resist.

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Speaker 3: They're just too delicious, even though they are never the

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Speaker 3: chances of them happening, it's probably ninety nine point nine

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Speaker 3: favorites in this business the last like five to ten

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Speaker 3: years is package deal. Coach and quarterback both go together,

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Speaker 3: they both make the jump together. Huh can't you see

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Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley, Caleb Williams?

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Speaker 2: What could go wrong?

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Speaker 3: What could go wrong? It's perfect, It's perfect. We God,

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Speaker 3: we love that story. We can't resist, even it's never

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Speaker 3: gonna happen. We do it every single year. There's a

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Speaker 2: That, Oh we love it. Yeah, but sports media is

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Speaker 2: about hypotheticals.

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Speaker 3: Sports media is about a calendar and what are the

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Speaker 3: topics that happened this time every single year? And package

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Speaker 3: deal is one that happens every single time this year. Yes, Marvin,

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Speaker 3: even the ones that don't make sense. Nick Saban arch Manning.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know in Cleveland people ran with that, and

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Speaker 2: I go first of all, arch isn't coming out. Who

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Speaker 2: wouldn't want that? Second of all, Saban is not crazy

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Speaker 2: enough that he would want to go back into coaching.

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Speaker 2: I got some unfinished business with the Cleveland Browns. But

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Speaker 2: you know it was thrown out there by somebody reputable

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Speaker 2: and then people ran with it. Yes, Paul, well it's

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Speaker 2: going to happen today.

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Speaker 4: Someone's going to take the Mike Tannabaum topic and turn

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Speaker 4: it into is this a possibility as opposed to just

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Speaker 4: Mike Tannabam'm saying this is what I do if I

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Speaker 4: ran the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: It will be a topic bar because and Pauli's right,

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Speaker 2: sometimes when something comes up on the show and then

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Speaker 2: we say, oh well, let's talk about that possibility and

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Speaker 2: it's not a report. Mike Tannebaum was saying, Hey, what

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Speaker 2: about That's all he's saying. He didn't say you know

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Speaker 2: what I heard from or there's a chance he didn't

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Speaker 2: say that. But that doesn't that won't stop people from

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Speaker 2: running with this. If you're running the Raiders, you're a

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Speaker 2: Raiders fan, or you're hosting a show and you want

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Speaker 2: to throw something out there, you're going to get people's

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Speaker 2: attention with this. But it is not a report. It

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Speaker 2: was just Mike saying why not?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Ton, and do you even want to be that

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Speaker 5: guy who had this great thing at Indiana and maybe

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Speaker 5: a national championship, maybe building on that, maybe a multiple championships.

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Speaker 6: You're the guy.

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Speaker 5: Forever in Indiana and you go six and eleven or

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Speaker 5: seven ten as the Raiders coach?

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Speaker 6: Do you you know?

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Speaker 5: I don't know what his ego is that we'd like

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Speaker 5: to try his hand at being a successful NFL coach.

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Speaker 5: Is that worth it to him and his legacy to

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Speaker 5: not stay where he just built something great? What do

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Speaker 5: you think I think you should stay in Indiana and

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Speaker 5: certainly not going to the Raiders. They're not They got

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Speaker 5: to chase their broncos and charges and even the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: aren't going to stay down very long.

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Speaker 2: All right, It's a long haul.

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Speaker 5: To me to take over the Raiders round.

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Speaker 6: I don't care how great a coach you are on Colum.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know what owner GM combo in the

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Speaker 3: world is gonna sign up for. Let's hire this head

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Speaker 3: coach that we don't know if he can coach at

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Speaker 3: this level, and even better, let's have him bring his

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Speaker 3: current quarterback up to this level too, because we don't

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Speaker 3: know if he could play at this level either. Let's

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Speaker 3: just put them both together and give it three years,

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Speaker 3: see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at all the dumb things the Raiders

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Speaker 2: have done before in the last twenty five years. It's fair,

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Speaker 2: but that might be the dumbest.

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Speaker 7: Hmmm, a lot of stupid game years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the worst thing the Raiders did in the

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Speaker 3: last ten to fifteen years is.

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Speaker 2: Who was the coach that they had just fired? Somebody?

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Speaker 3: They had an interim head coach that everybody loved, Rich Yes, yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: give him the job, the job, damn it.

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Speaker 2: Well they did that before, you know, somebody. This is

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Speaker 2: always the danger of an interim head coach when you

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Speaker 2: go on a run and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: we go yeah, mean you got to give him the job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Antonio Pierce, you got to give

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Speaker 2: him the job. And then all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 2: give him the job. Nel, why do we give him

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Speaker 2: the job? Drod Mayo, Man, you got to give him

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Speaker 2: the job. He's been waiting. Uh not good? Yeah, pulling

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Speaker 2: well with the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Rich Pisacia not getting the job in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 4: was so criticized that they gave Antonio Pierce the job

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Speaker 4: two years later as a compensation for not doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 2: Dylan in Orlando, Hi Dylan, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 8: Are you doing lay to son to talk about the

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Speaker 8: foam connection?

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Speaker 2: Is not very good there, Dylan, Try again, Michael and

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Speaker 2: Fort Wayne. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 9: Hey, listen, the Winter Olympics are coming up real soon,

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Speaker 9: and I think we all want to know, as a

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Speaker 9: former Olympian, who do you like to stay from the

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Speaker 9: Golden cross country scheme this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm apparently a former baseball player now an Olympian.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael. Yeah, I got to check my Wikipedia

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Speaker 2: page because it might be a little bit more full

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Speaker 2: than it needs to be. Chris and Syracuse, Hi Chris,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 5: Dan?

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Speaker 9: Hey, I have a couple of items to throw at you.

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Speaker 9: And this day in sports history. You know, in the

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Speaker 9: last two years teams will buy in college football playoffs

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Speaker 9: are one and seven. It seems like having to buy

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Speaker 9: in the three plus week later that comes with it

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Speaker 9: isn't really an advantage. And I can't wait till they

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Speaker 9: go with a sixteen team playoff, There'll be no reason

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Speaker 9: to have buys. Just go straight to a nice four

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Speaker 9: round playoff. And as Polly said, gosh, it was probably

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Speaker 9: fifteen sixteen years ago college football would own the month

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Speaker 9: of December. And Andy Reid says he'll be back next year,

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Speaker 9: but Mahomes is out to start the year. You're not

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Speaker 9: in a good salary cap position. And a couple assistants

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Speaker 9: said left in fact once related to the Michigan head coach,

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Speaker 9: and he's head Ann Arbor and Ellie and Denver a

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Speaker 9: on the rise and the Biggie Casey's facing pretty much

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Speaker 9: a rebuild. And at this stage Andy Reid's career, why

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Speaker 9: would he want to sign up for a rebuild? I mean,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you also put a fifth round draft pick in there.

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Speaker 2: And that's why it was unfair to really expect that much.

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Speaker 6: nothing new to me or where I was at. And

435
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Speaker 6: you went from the WHAC to the Mountain West, to

436
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Speaker 6: the Pac twelve to the Big twelve and I was

437
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Speaker 6: there through it all, and so I know exactly how

438
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Speaker 6: to how to you know, navigate that. You know, we've

439
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 6: had a pretty good track record against Big ten schools

440
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Speaker 6: while I was at Utah. In fact, against Michigan. We're

441
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Speaker 6: three and oh, so that didn't hurt my cause during

442
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 6: the during the process, the hiring process. But but uh,

443
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 6: football is football then, and and it's ex's and o's.

444
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 6: They don't change. Certainly, the you know, the level of

445
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 6: competition is increased, but it's relative. I mean, we're good

446
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 6: players here, so so it's uh, I think it's a

447
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 6: good situation.

448
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Speaker 2: JU hate Ohio State.

449
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Speaker 6: Don't I have to? Yeah, I think I have to.

450
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Speaker 6: But but uh.

451
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Speaker 2: Seminar that there, and I know Urban Urban was helping you.

452
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Speaker 2: Uh wasn't.

453
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Speaker 6: Absolutely. I've been close with Urban ever since. We worked together,

454
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Speaker 6: uh back in uh O two and O three, and

455
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Speaker 6: I was his defensive coordinator. I was on the staff

456
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Speaker 6: staff got let go, Urban got the job. I was

457
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Speaker 6: the only holdover and uh Riddy developed a great relationship

458
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Speaker 6: with him and have maintained it ever since. And yeah,

459
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 6: he absolutely helped me. Uh along the way.

460
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Speaker 2: Here Kyle Whittingham, Michigan head football coach, joining us. I'm

461
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out this transfer portal, so am I.

462
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Speaker 2: But I'm also trying to figure out the collective and

463
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: nil dollar. I mean, somebody just told me over the

464
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: weekend that some of these programs are getting to forty

465
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: million dollar budgets, forty million plus. Absolutely, I mean it

466
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: doesn't feel sustainable, Kyle, It's not.

467
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 6: It's not sustainable. There's no question about that. Something has

468
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 6: got to give. And I think it's you know, within

469
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Speaker 6: a two to two to four five year window here,

470
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Speaker 6: you're going to see a major overhaul Division one football.

471
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Speaker 6: I think it's going to become more of a minor

472
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Speaker 6: league NFL model. I think you're going to see a

473
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Speaker 6: solar cap, collective bargaining, uh, players as employees. I think

474
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Speaker 6: all that's coming because you're exactly right, we can't maintain

475
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Speaker 6: this pace. It's impossible.

476
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Speaker 2: Can we have a commissioner?

477
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Speaker 6: Yes, I would love one. I think that's I think

478
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Speaker 6: that's in the cards as well.

479
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Speaker 2: But is everybody going to listen? Is the SEC going

480
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: to listen or the big ten?

481
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Speaker 6: I mean they have to, they have to. And I

482
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 6: think if we get you know, ultimately aligned with the

483
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Speaker 6: super conferences and uh, you know, get things commission you know,

484
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 6: have a commissioner that runs it all and put some

485
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 6: teeth into it, I think that's the only way to survive.

486
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 6: And so and you're already seeing private equity starting to

487
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 6: end the Yeah, it's crazy.

488
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: Where are we going with the playoffs? It's probably going

489
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: to sixteen next year, but where are we going?

490
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Speaker 6: Well to sixteen? First of all, and I kind of

491
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Speaker 6: agree with coach Dan Landing at the Oregon it would

492
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 6: be nice to have the season wrapped up by January first,

493
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 6: especially the way the portal window is right now. I mean,

494
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 6: it's chaos, and so I think there needs to be revamping,

495
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 6: not only if of the system itself, but at least

496
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Speaker 6: immediately the calendar. The calendar needs to be tweaked.

497
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Speaker 2: What kind of money are we talking about? What's a

498
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: top end quarterback costing now? In the portal?

499
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Speaker 10: Well?

500
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Speaker 6: I heard today that one university in the state of

501
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Speaker 6: Texas is paying five million dollars for a starting quarterback

502
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Speaker 6: for this year, and so I think that might be

503
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Speaker 6: the the That's the most I've heard of, and I

504
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 6: you know, basketball players, some basketball player are making more

505
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 6: than that from what you hear. But the starting quarterback

506
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 6: now apparently the price is five million dollars.

507
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: Is Bryce Underwood staying?

508
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 6: We hope?

509
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 10: So?

510
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Speaker 6: I think he's had he's got a got a good vibe. Uh,

511
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 6: you don't know, Well, you don't know anything yet. I mean, shoot,

512
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 6: it's a it's the wild wild West here, Dan. And

513
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 6: so we think we think we're in a good place

514
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Speaker 6: with Bryce. He's a terrific young man. I've sat down

515
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 6: with him and and uh he is the really the

516
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 6: heart and soul of this football team. And uh, I

517
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 6: think we're making good progress towards that end.

518
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Speaker 2: We're curious if we could have your old Utah gear.

519
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can have a shift out to you. It's

520
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 6: all xcel. You got one size to choose from.

521
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: But uh, boy, that's that's a big color change for you.

522
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Speaker 6: It is it is, You're right, Yeah, red to blue

523
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 6: and blue was our was our rival. You know, it

524
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 6: was a Utah for years and so now I got

525
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Speaker 6: to get used to saying go blue.

526
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Speaker 2: But I tell them, okay, but did you hate b

527
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Speaker 2: Yu as much as you're gonna hate?

528
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 6: Okay, hate a strong word. But how about an intense,

529
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 6: very intense rivalry? And uh it was very uh in

530
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Speaker 6: the state of Utah. I mean it's the biggest single

531
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Speaker 6: sporting event.

532
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Speaker 2: That was an unbelievable rivalry though very underrated. But but

533
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: you know, having two daughters who lived in Salt Lake

534
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: and it's like you did. Yeah. No, they both they

535
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: both left, they both came back home. Yeah, they loved it,

536
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: they loved Salt Lake. But they said, uh that that rivalry,

537
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: you don't understand it until you go to it, exactly.

538
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 9: You know.

539
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: So because I grew up Ohio State Michigan, right, and

540
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: I always think that there's no better rivalry. But there

541
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Speaker 2: there are ones. When you go to them, you understand

542
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: the importance. It's just not national magnitude like Ohio State

543
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: and Michigan are.

544
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Speaker 6: Doesn't have the national bandwidth that uh, that we have

545
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: in this rivalry. But it is every bit is intense

546
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 6: and every bit as uh. You know that the animosity

547
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 6: in the in the state and you're either red or

548
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 6: blue in that state, and it's pretty well split. I mean,

549
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 6: it's almost an even division there.

550
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Speaker 2: Could you take Ryan Day when you were younger, when

551
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: I was younger, or could you take him now so

552
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: he's forty six? Yeah? Could you take Ryan Day right

553
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: now in the octagon.

554
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 6: In an acting on Well, there's one way to find out.

555
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 8: I guess.

556
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 6: I don't know. I like Ryan I got a lot

557
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 6: of respect for him. We played him in the in

558
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 6: the Rose Bowl, a couple of years back. Well, I

559
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 6: guess it's been him three or four years now, so

560
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 6: excellent football coach.

561
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't have to say nice things anymore, man, it's

562
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Speaker 2: best that you don't.

563
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 6: Okay, I know, I'll probably put my foot in my

564
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 6: mouth right there.

565
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Speaker 2: Uh, congrats, good luck, Appreciate.

566
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 6: You, us appreciate you, dun thank you.

567
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: We taped that yesterday. Five hours later, Bryce Underwood tweeted

568
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: that he was staying at Michigan. But you could hear

569
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: it in his voice when he said is your quarterback

570
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: going to be staying? He's like, uh, hope. So he

571
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: didn't know. Yeah, do you think he didn't know? Well,

572
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: if he knew, then why wouldn't he say.

573
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: Well, I mean maybe he wanted the player to announce it.

574
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of the way things work now,

575
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: you know. The player announces they're leaving, the player announces

576
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: they're staying. I wonder if he really had no idea.

577
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paulie, I would.

578
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: Speculate that these days there was probably a renegotiation of

579
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: his contract at Michigan and it was not signed yet,

580
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: and that when we spoke to him, it was there

581
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: was not ink on the page yet.

582
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: I believe that. Yeah, yeah, because it feels like everybody

583
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: who's in the transfer portal, or the potential for every

584
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: player to be in the transfer portal, because you know,

585
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: you want to you want to at least find out

586
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: what the market is for you, or have somebody find

587
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: that out for you. And you know, as Kyle was saying,

588
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's quarterback is getting five million dollars to go to

589
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Now that's that's changed as far as the price,

590
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: because as I told told you, I think before the

591
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: holiday break, I was told that the going rate for

592
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback transferring was three to four million dollars. And

593
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, you get Cincinnati's quarterback. I

594
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: don't know his name. Let me see, have you seen

595
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: his name? I should have that, but I know that

596
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: he was obviously a very good quarterback and he's going

597
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: to Texas Tech and getting five million dollars. So yes,

598
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: Marvin Brandon Soresby, Okay, all right, yeah, five million dollars.

599
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: And you know, as I told you that source said

600
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 2: there was a high school tight end and there were

601
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: two major college programs that were paying him and he

602
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: was still in high school. But it's basically, hey, we're

603
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: going to give you the money. We're giving you the

604
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: money before you even you know, get to college. We're

605
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: going to give you the money in high school. And

606
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: he a decorated player and he was getting paid while

607
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean that's where they're starting. I mean the same thing.

608
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: Look at the shoe industry, it's we're not waiting for

609
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: you to get to the NBA. We're not waiting for

610
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: you to get to college. We're not waiting for you

611
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: to get to high school. We're going aau. We're going

612
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: as early as possible to get you in our shoes,

613
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: to get you in the program, get your free gear.

614
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: This is the same thing. It's like you're grooming to

615
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: get them to go to your school. What's it going

616
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: to take and when do you start? This is what's

617
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: going on right now. They and even as coach said,

618
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: this isn't sustainable that you have programs who are going

619
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: to be spending forty to fifty million dollars a year.

620
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: Now some can, but you know you're and you can't say, well, Congress,

621
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: you guys fix this because we can't. And really that's

622
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: almost the mindset. It feels like, hey, nothing, what can do?

623
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: Maybe Congress can help us. I think Congress has other

624
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 2: things they're probably working on, but you know we can

625
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: check the docket. Yes, Marvin, are.

626
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 7: You're gonna see a lot more mid season changes like

627
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 7: you did this season because they're paying all this money.

628
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 7: They're like, we're not seeing results, so you gotta go.

629
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we see this in the NFL, where

630
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: you get you get two years. It feels like two

631
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: years is a coach, two years is a quarterback. Before

632
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: we you know, rubber stamp you as your franchise quarterback

633
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: or you're our coach, or you're a bust or you

634
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: should be just a coordinator not a head coach. I

635
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: mean that's it's getting quicker and quicker because the money

636
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: is getting bigger and bigger, and you want to know

637
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: right away that is that our guy? If not, we

638
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: got to move on.

639
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 8: Yeah.

640
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 6: So, I I.

641
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: Know that the money in college football and how much

642
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: players are being paid as a controversial issue, but like,

643
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: take someone like Brandon Swordsby you're just talking about he

644
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: is going to make more money than shirdor Sanders is

645
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: going to make. I kind of like the idea that

646
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: the money that these kids are gonna make keeps them

647
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: in college football longer, so they actually develop more. And

648
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: that then maybe the players that are supposed to make

649
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: it to the NFL do go to the NFL, and

650
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: the ones that aren't still have a good chunk of change,

651
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: but they probably aren't gonna eventually get there. The developed

652
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Speaker 3: ones will be more apparent.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you have to stay three years in college football,

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Speaker 2: so you have a built in system that protects college

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Speaker 2: football from the standpoint of these names may bounce around,

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Speaker 2: but they stay. College basketball doesn't have that, so you

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Speaker 2: don't have any familiarity with college basketball, at least with football.

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Speaker 2: You go, oh, that guy used to be and you're right.

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Speaker 2: You might stay for your senior year is instead of

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Speaker 2: coming out after your junior year in college football, but

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Speaker 2: you're already locked in for three years. Where college basketball,

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Speaker 2: I'm one and done. I mean, all of these guys

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Speaker 2: we looked at and we go, that guy's one and done.

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Speaker 2: All the marquee players one and done. Even the money

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Speaker 2: that you could make and Cooper Flagg reportedly was making

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Speaker 2: around two point six million dollars at Duke. He was

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Speaker 2: the highest paid player two point six Now what would

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Speaker 2: he be worth if he came back? What five million dollars,

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Speaker 2: maybe more than that. He wants to get into that

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Speaker 2: second contract in the NBA when he's gonna get sixty

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Speaker 2: or seventy million dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe even still just staying for that extra

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Speaker 3: year of development. There's not the I get the rush

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Speaker 3: to the second contract. I definitely get that. However, there

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Speaker 3: is something I think there's something to be said about

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Speaker 3: another year of development rather than being pushed too early.

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Speaker 3: You know, I they if you're leaving college football with

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Speaker 3: a couple million dollars in your pocket, there really isn't

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Speaker 3: that same rush to get there.

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Speaker 2: It's like Ty Simpson and Alabama. You know, greg Or

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Speaker 2: was some of the who is it? McCarran said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I would tell him to stay and you know, you

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Speaker 2: need another year. He might be in the transfer portal.

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Speaker 2: He got hurt in that game against Indiana, maybe a

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Speaker 2: cracked rib, but it looked like he might have been

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Speaker 2: getting benched as well. And is he going to transfer?

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Speaker 2: Does he does he want to go into the NFL?

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Speaker 2: And I think mccaren said he would probably be a

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Speaker 2: fifth or sixth round quarterback, but that he should stay.

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Speaker 2: And not everybody has guidance though now we think that,

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Speaker 2: Oh man, you know somebody, there's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: with a lot of agendas, who hey, I'd go pro

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Speaker 2: because people helping you with that decision might be getting

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Speaker 2: money from you with that decision. Yeah, palling.

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Speaker 4: Another great example is Carson Beck, who's a hot property

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Speaker 4: a year and a half ago. Then he really cooled

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Speaker 4: off as a draft prospect, you know, and parlayed a

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Speaker 4: big payday from Miami.

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Speaker 2: Well, Quinn ewers as well. I mean, it's it's working

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Speaker 2: out for Quinn, but Texas didn't want him to stay

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Speaker 2: another year. I think he wanted to stay another year. Like, no,

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Speaker 2: I think we're good.

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Speaker 8: Arch.

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Speaker 2: It's it's Arch's term. All right, more phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We're back after this.

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Speaker 1: listen live. Texas Tech has added again there spending money.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, they signed multiple players in the portal

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Speaker 1: for over seven million dollars in twenty twenty five. Now

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Speaker 1: they just spend five million dollars on their quarterback. Reportedly,

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Speaker 1: he is Brendan Soorsby who was at Cincinnati, got these

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Speaker 1: guys who are making more money than starting quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and making more, well, not making more than

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Speaker 1: cam Ward. Is he making more than Tyler Shuck with

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints? Probably? So, you know, Tyler Shuck

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Speaker 1: had a pretty good year.

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Speaker 2: Nobody noticed, but he had a pretty good year for

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Speaker 2: the Saints, made them competitive, had some pretty good numbers there,

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, they kind of threw him in

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Speaker 2: and he survived. So and I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people thought he might be the most quarterback ready because

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Speaker 2: of his age and experienced number of games when he

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Speaker 2: played in college. Jackson dard I thought was a first

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Speaker 2: round draft pick and proved to be at the end

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Speaker 2: of the first round. But Tyler Shuck was probably ready

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Speaker 2: to go, maybe sooner than any of the other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: All right, Oh, Paulie wants to play the guess that

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Speaker 2: firing game? Oh okay, Now we usually.

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Speaker 4: Play this on a Monday after the football season. A

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Speaker 4: rare Guess that firing on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: That's messed up? Then, why come on, what are you

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Speaker 2: doing that on Tuesday?

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Speaker 10: For?

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Speaker 3: This is what we spent like the whole first home

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Speaker 3: you can. This is supposed to be I think I

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Speaker 3: made a Tuesday. Yes, not Wow, sucks to be you Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Okay, see, and you're right on because the hint is

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Speaker 4: in your complaint. What would a which team would maybe

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Speaker 4: do it on a Tuesday so they could garner more

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Speaker 4: attention than other teams?

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Speaker 8: Wait?

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Speaker 2: You want to stand out for this team?

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Speaker 8: Does?

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Speaker 2: Being Cowboys?

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Speaker 4: The Dallas Cowboys of fire defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. They

748
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Speaker 4: are now answer their fourth defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: In four season.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the Cowboys could have easily done this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: They teased it last week. Well, who are they bringing in?

752
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Speaker 2: Like anybody but Matt Abra No, but I saw where

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Speaker 2: they were bringing in somebody. It's already been a name

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Speaker 2: attached to this. Yes, Todd, do you do that?

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Speaker 6: Do you fire the head coaches Monday than the coordinators?

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Speaker 5: They are more of a midweek Tuesday Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah they're not They're not Monday worthy. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 2: to wait a couple day. Yeah Tuesday. Ashton in Vegas, Hey, Ashton,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Just first time, long time, thanks for taking my call. Uh,

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Speaker 11: curious to see if you guys have heard anything, but

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Speaker 11: come across my social media a couple of times where

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Speaker 11: Geno Smith is reportedly surprised and frustrated that they let

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Speaker 11: Pete Carroll go, and it's like, well, if you wanted

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Speaker 11: him to, they maybe throw to your own team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you have? Seventeen interceptions? I think this year.

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Speaker 2: I guess there's a little bit of surprise with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean the surprise was they hired him at his

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Speaker 2: age with that team, and it's and it's it was

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Speaker 2: going to take a few years. I don't I now,

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Speaker 2: I had higher expectations for them, but they were lofty

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Speaker 2: expectations because I was thinking, you know what, they got

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Speaker 2: a running back, quarterback, tight end, and they got a

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Speaker 2: you know, impact edge rusher. Okay, challenging division, yes, but

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Speaker 2: maybe you can win eight or nine games, yes, Pauling.

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Speaker 4: Going back to the signing of Geno Smith by the Raiders,

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Speaker 4: a lot of people liked it at the time. It

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Speaker 4: was a friendly contract. Financially, he just went ten and

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Speaker 4: seven as the Seattle quarterback with twenty one touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: It was considered a nice move.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a problem with you know Smith because

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Speaker 2: it looked like he had, you know, kind of had

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Speaker 2: that renaissance that we see with a lot of these quarterbacks. Yes,

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Speaker 2: how many of those were rcis Yeah, Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: This is a classic instance of why we need that

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Speaker 3: stat receiver calls to interception or every weekend. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: they go on your docket.

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Speaker 2: Well not every weekend with the Jets, no weekends. They

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Speaker 2: didn't have one where the receiver went the wrong way

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Speaker 2: and the quarterback threw and somebody got an interception. Unbelievable. Yes, Mark.

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Speaker 7: The sad part is Sauce Gardener probably wouldn't help that either,

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Speaker 7: because he was an intercepting ball like that either.

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Speaker 2: No, man, you forget about that move that the Colts

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Speaker 2: made and you're thinking, man, they're all in and then

797
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden they're all out.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Marv Jonathan Taylor was an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, because I was making him an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 2: But you know I did preface that by saying they

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Speaker 2: won't give it to a running back. But at the time,

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Speaker 2: through what eight games, he was a big deal. But

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Speaker 2: you wonder about that. They got to get a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Danny Dimes. I'm not gonna be ready to start the season,

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Speaker 2: Anthony richardson his future, Riley Leonard Maybe one hour left

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Speaker 2: to Go, Reggie Aloisius Miller Junior The Third More of

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