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Speaker 1: is podcast time machine time, And as I teased, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do some what ifs that you could argue

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Speaker 1: are sort of going back at a time machine but

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Speaker 1: impacting what happened and then coming back and seeing, hey,

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Speaker 1: what happened when you gave Biff the gamble, the sports

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Speaker 1: on all the actual outcomes. Right, So we'll be doing

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Speaker 1: you know, in some ways that is the distortion of

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Speaker 1: our todd Cash time Eschine segment. But I am in

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Speaker 1: straightforward mode. And as you know, just to give you

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Speaker 1: sort of the parameters of what I use it is

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Speaker 1: there is something taking place this coming week in history,

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Speaker 1: a milestone that happened. In this case, it's December thirty first,

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four, is where we're going back in our

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Speaker 1: Toodcast time machine. So that is and it is something

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Speaker 1: that came to an end, and I'm going to use

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Speaker 1: it to tell the story of what we are, which

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Speaker 1: is a very reluctant nation of immigrants. Let me explain.

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Speaker 1: December thirty first, nineteen fifty four, Ellis Island quietly closed

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Speaker 1: its doors to become simply a museum. There was no ceremony,

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Speaker 1: there was no speech, there was no national moment of reflection,

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Speaker 1: which is actually fitting because at the time, Ellis Island

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Speaker 1: didn't close because America stopped being a nation of immigrants.

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Speaker 1: It closed because the immigration system that built Ellis Island

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Speaker 1: no longer existed. I'm going to get to that and

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Speaker 1: that quiet ending gives us a perfect entry point into

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Speaker 1: a much bigger question, and it's one we have been

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Speaker 1: arguing about since the founding of this country. Is America

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Speaker 1: a nation of immigrants? And if we are, which factually

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Speaker 1: we are, have we always been actually a reluctant nation

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Speaker 1: of immigrants? Which is the case I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: with this time machine so to answered honestly, we do

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Speaker 1: need to strip away the nostalgia and we need to

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Speaker 1: look at what the twentieth century actually did when it

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Speaker 1: came to immigration into the United States. First, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about the myth and the reality of Alissimon.

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Speaker 1: At the turn of the twentieth century, immigration in the

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Speaker 1: United States was massive, It was chaotic, and it was

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Speaker 1: largely unrestricted. Allis Island processed millions of people, sometimes as

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Speaker 1: many as twelve thousand people a day, and most were

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Speaker 1: arriving by steamship from Europe. That was the primary way

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Speaker 1: we got immigrants into this country. And it is also

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Speaker 1: the version of immigration that we America love to romanticize.

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Speaker 1: But even that, there was anxiety built into that immigration

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Speaker 1: system at that time. Newspapers in that time and if

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Speaker 1: you go to Alis Island as a museum. You will

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Speaker 1: see this. As this was happening, we talk about it

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Speaker 1: as amazing Elis Island, and in fact it's a badge

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Speaker 1: of honor if you had a relative come through Ellis Island. Right,

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Speaker 1: But at the time, this is what newspapers were warning about, crime, disease, anarchists,

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Speaker 1: job competition, cultural change. In other words, America has never

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Speaker 1: experienced an immigration surge without fear attached to it. And

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Speaker 1: this has been true arguably since the very beginning, but

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Speaker 1: certainly was also all throughout the twentieth century, and by

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Speaker 1: the nineteen twenties, this fear got turned into policy that

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Speaker 1: brings us to the quota system, which actually governed America's

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Speaker 1: immigration system for basically half of the twentieth century. The

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Speaker 1: modern immigration debate really begins with this decision to restrict

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Speaker 1: entries via quota. The Immigration Act of nineteen twenty four,

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Speaker 1: which was also known as the Johnson Reid Act, created

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Speaker 1: what was a national origins quota system that fundamentally reshaped

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Speaker 1: who could come to the United States, And this decision

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Speaker 1: sort of embedded a form of racism that people now

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Speaker 1: look back on nostalgically and think, well, if America was

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Speaker 1: for it. It couldn't have been racist, but I'll get

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Speaker 1: to that. But here's what this Immigration Act did. One

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Speaker 1: it severely limited immigration from southern and Eastern Europe. As

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Speaker 1: somebody whose Jewish relatives came from Eastern Europe, let me

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Speaker 1: just say that. A lot of Jews saw that at

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Speaker 1: the time as essentially preventing Jews from coming into the

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Speaker 1: United States. But if you just made it about a

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Speaker 1: certain region of Europe, it didn't look like some sort

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Speaker 1: of restriction based on religion. The nineteen twenty four law

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Speaker 1: favored northern and western Europe and virtually excluded immigrants coming

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Speaker 1: in from Asia and Africa. Well, what it did do

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Speaker 1: immigration dropped by more than eighty percent, And this is

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Speaker 1: actually what essentially ended Ellis Island, even though thirty years

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Speaker 1: later they finally shut their doors. Because after nineteen twenty four,

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Speaker 1: most immigrants had to be approved before arriving. It used

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Speaker 1: to be you got processed once you got here. Then

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Speaker 1: in the after nineteen twenty four, you had to get

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Speaker 1: approval before you could come. Ship based mass migration completely

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Speaker 1: collapsed because of this change in law, and Ellis Island

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Speaker 1: never really operated again as a true gateway after nineteen

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Speaker 1: twenty four, and in fact, by the time Ellis Island

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Speaker 1: closes December thirty first, nineteen fifty four, it's no longer

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Speaker 1: a symbol of openness. It's simply a relic of a

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Speaker 1: system America had already had abandoned. Which brings us to

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Speaker 1: the next turning point in the immigration debate nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: five and what lawmakers thought they were doing versus what

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Speaker 1: ended up happening. And this arguable is the most consequential

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Speaker 1: legislation that was enacted and arguably still not fixed sense.

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Speaker 1: The Immigration and Nationality Act of nineteen sixty five is

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Speaker 1: easily one of the most misunderstood laws in American history

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Speaker 1: because it did not come due to a sudden embrace

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Speaker 1: of mass immigration. It actually came out of a civil

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Speaker 1: rights argument, and it was a Cold War inspired civil

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Speaker 1: rights argument. Yeah, I've one of my thesis in sort

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Speaker 1: of why we had less polarization during the Cold War,

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Speaker 1: And in fact, one of my major thesis is I

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Speaker 1: don't think we get the Civil Rights Act of sixty

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Speaker 1: five without the Cold War. That our fight with the Soviets,

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Speaker 1: who were we are having a propaganda war about democracy

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Speaker 1: and freedom. How could we be glamorizing democracy without giving

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Speaker 1: freedom to every American that lived in this country. So

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Speaker 1: there was the Cold War politics sort of how bring

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Speaker 1: I think both sides together on this? And I wonder

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Speaker 1: without the Cold War do we get the Civil Rights Act?

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Speaker 1: I'll save that for another what if. But by the

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Speaker 1: early sixties, the national Origins quota system was really embarrassing

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Speaker 1: for the United States internationally because it was explicitly discriminatory.

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Speaker 1: We picked and chose what ethnic origins we wanted in

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Speaker 1: which ones we didn't. We contradicted what was the civil

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Speaker 1: rights movement at home at that moment, and we undermined

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Speaker 1: US credibility abroad. And in fact, it was standing at

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Speaker 1: the Statue of Liberty that then President Lyndon B. Johnson

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Speaker 1: said the system violated quote, the basic principle of American democracy.

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Speaker 1: So he was making a moral case on immigration. But

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Speaker 1: here's the part we forgot. The law was sold to

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Speaker 1: the American public as being very modest and non transformational.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't going to have a huge impact. Supporters went

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Speaker 1: out of their way to reassure skeptics in that moment.

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Speaker 1: They argued the following this would not dramatically increase immigration.

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Speaker 1: This would not change the ethnic composition of the country,

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Speaker 1: and this was about fairness, not volume. In fact, then

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Speaker 1: Senator Ted Kennedy famblessly said the bill would not quote

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Speaker 1: flood our cities or quote upset the ethnic mix of

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Speaker 1: our society. And many critics, including labor unions, weren't focused

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Speaker 1: on race at all. They worried about job competition, wage pressure,

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Speaker 1: and whether the country could absorb more people. Those concerns

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00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: were minimized. They were sort of glossed over and attributed

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Speaker 1: frankly to Oh, you're being racist, you're being xenophobic. You're

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Speaker 1: not seeing it. So here's what Congress built. The structure

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00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 1: of the law mattered more than the speeches that were given.

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Speaker 1: So the law abolished the national origins quotas. It prioritized

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Speaker 1: family reunification, which was a huge aspect to this. It

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Speaker 1: created limited employment based visas, so no one fully modeled

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Speaker 1: what that all of that would mean over time. And

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Speaker 1: once one family member entered legally, then others could follow.

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Speaker 1: It was called chain migration, and it was never the

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Speaker 1: intent of the law, but it ended up being a mechanism.

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Speaker 1: The result wasn't immediate chaos, but it was steady and

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Speaker 1: sustained growth, and the shift and where immigrants came from

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Speaker 1: also changed, which brings us to the next unresolved chapter,

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Speaker 1: and that was the nineteen eighties amnesty enforcement and the

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Speaker 1: deal that didn't hold. So by the late seventies, growing

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Speaker 1: up in Miami, this was my sort of first memory

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Speaker 1: of policy debates, and it was all over Central American

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Speaker 1: and Cuban immigrants, so I had a front row seat

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Speaker 1: to this. So by the late seventies and early eighties,

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Speaker 1: a reality had become impossible to ignore. Millions of people

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Speaker 1: were already living and working in the United States illegally,

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Speaker 1: and the system had no credible answer. There wasn't This

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Speaker 1: wasn't new migration. It was simply accumulated migration, and culture

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Speaker 1: relied on it and there was no enforcement against it.

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Speaker 1: Construction relied on it, again, no enforcement against it. Restaurants

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Speaker 1: relied on it, again, no enforcement against it, and both

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Speaker 1: parties knew it. And it leads to the Immigration Reform

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Speaker 1: and Control Act signed by Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 1: the Mizzoli Act some people know it as the deal

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Speaker 1: had three parts legalization, so basically it gave amnesty to

627
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Speaker 1: about three million undocumented immigrants, they got legal status automatically.

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Speaker 1: Number two was employer sanctions. Employers were supposed to be

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Speaker 1: punished for hiring undocumented workers nineteen eighty six. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: can't even get anybody to use e faerify today and

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Speaker 1: we didn't even have that system in place in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six. And then of course there was the promise

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Speaker 1: of more border enforcement. This was a promise that this

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Speaker 1: would be a one time resent. Reagan even framed it

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Speaker 1: pretty optimistically, consistent with his worldview. It was a humane solution.

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Speaker 1: So here's why it failed. And this is the history.

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Speaker 1: The lesson history keeps teaching us on the issue. The

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00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: legalization worked, enforcement did not. Employer sanctions were very weakly enforced,

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Speaker 1: if at all. Demand for labor never did change, and

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Speaker 1: the legal pathways never did expand, so then all the

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Speaker 1: incentives remained. Chain migration essentially was the best way through,

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Speaker 1: and Congress moved on. They left the system permanently unfinished

643
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Speaker 1: because our politics were too complicated on this and there

644
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: was no clean left right argument. There were coalitions in

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Speaker 1: different ways that sort of really made this impossible for

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Speaker 1: one party to be the party in one way or

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Speaker 1: the other. I mean in South Florida you had Republicans

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Speaker 1: standing up for migrants and undocumented immigrants in ways that

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Speaker 1: you didn't have in other parts in the country. But

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Speaker 1: then in the Midwest you had conservative farmers. You needed

651
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Speaker 1: labor anyway. You know, many of you if you're listening

652
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Speaker 1: to this podcast, you know that story. But after eighty six,

653
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: arguably this is where our modern immigration politics are bornation

654
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Speaker 1: without durbal enforcement, enforcement without legal reform, and a growing

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Speaker 1: population living in limbo. And then this is where the

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Speaker 1: current era fits into all this historical contest, of course matters,

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Speaker 1: which is why I wanted to lay this out. I

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Speaker 1: thought this would be a good pretext to sort of explain,

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Speaker 1: you know, constantly, the number one question that I'm asking

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Speaker 1: is how did we get here? It's usually a follow up,

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Speaker 1: whether it's on campaign finance reform, it could be a

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Speaker 1: follow up on democracy, follow up on for policy, follow

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Speaker 1: up on character politics, follow up on the media. But

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Speaker 1: the question remains the same, how did we get here? Well,

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Speaker 1: on immigration, this is my best way of trying to

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Speaker 1: explain how did we get here? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I've got a way out. If I did, maybe I'd

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Speaker 1: be running for office. But this is it's important to

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Speaker 1: understand the context because the Trump administration didn't invent immigration restriction,

670
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Speaker 1: but what they did do is rejected the optimism of

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Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty five reforms, rejected the compromise language of

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty six reforms heavily into enforcement, de terrence,

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Speaker 1: and symbolism. So what was new wasn't really restriction. It

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Speaker 1: was rhetoric. It was the visibility, the willingness to make

675
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Speaker 1: immigration the central cultural dividing line historically. This isn't a rupture.

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00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: It's actually simply a pendulum swing. It's a return to

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Speaker 1: an older American instinct. But it's one of the uglier

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Speaker 1: chapters of America. It's not the ugliest chapter, we know

679
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Speaker 1: what that one is, but it's one of the uglier ones,

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Speaker 1: and we're still dealing with the fallout from it, which

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Speaker 1: leads me to ask this question, are we really a

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Speaker 1: nation of immigrants? So let's answer the question as honestly

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Speaker 1: as we can. Yes, we are. We are a nation

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Speaker 1: of immigrants, and America is still more of an idea

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Speaker 1: than it is an ethnicity. But history suggests something a

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Speaker 1: bit more precise. We are a nation of immigrants, but

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Speaker 1: we're a reluctant nation of immigrants. We celebrate immigration in

688
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Speaker 1: retrospect once the simulation happens and once the fear fades,

689
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Speaker 1: But in real time, anxiety dominates, restriction follows, and the

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Speaker 1: half finished reforms pilot. Ellis Island closed because mass immigration

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Speaker 1: and the quota system rose because fear prevailed. The nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty five law reopened the door cautiously, nineteen eighty six

693
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Speaker 1: tried to reset the system imperfectly, and today we're still

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Speaker 1: arguing over the consequences of both. So Ellis Island didn't

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Speaker 1: close because the American dream ended. It closed because the

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Speaker 1: system changed, and the tension between openness and control never

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00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: went away. That tension isn't new, and it goes back

698
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Speaker 1: to what I think is the founding tension that divides

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Speaker 1: so much of our politics, which is a basic argument

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Speaker 1: of who gets to be an American? And I actually

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Speaker 1: think it should continue to be the single most important

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Speaker 1: debate question that a Civics teacher should want to be

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Speaker 1: asked to everybody that runs for office, and every debate,

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00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: every interview of a new candidate for office should always

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Speaker 1: include that question, Right, who gets to be an American?

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Speaker 1: Tell me how you answer that. You answer that question

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Speaker 1: for me, and I'll tell you what your political philosophy is,

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Speaker 1: because that's the debate we continue to have, and ultimately,

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Speaker 1: it's the debate that's at the heart of this division

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Speaker 1: and what has been essentially a never ending debate about

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Speaker 1: who gets to be an American, who gets to come

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Speaker 1: to America, who gets to work in America, and who

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Speaker 1: gets to be who gets the privileges of American citizenship.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason results matter more than promises, just like

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Speaker 1: there's a reason Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury

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Speaker 1: It includes cases where insurance companies offered next to nothing,

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Speaker 1: which was a staggering forty times the amount that the

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Speaker 1: insurance company originally offered. That original offer six hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars twenty six million, six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So with more than one thousand lawyers across

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Speaker 1: the country, they know how to deliver for everyday people.

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Speaker 1: If you're injured, you need a lawyer. You need somebody

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Speaker 1: Their fee is free unless they win. All right, So

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Speaker 1: with that, let me sneak in a few questions. We'll

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Speaker 1: do a little last check coming up. I'm gonna I'm

735
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Speaker 1: gonna give a empty the mail bag, as they say,

736
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Speaker 1: but let me do a few now, ask Chuck. I

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Speaker 1: hate Chuck and happy holidays. Wanted to flag a fun

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Speaker 1: but serious proposal from former podcast guest Congressman Chris Dluzio Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: the hot Dog Act. Honest hot Dog is an acronym

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Speaker 1: in this case, honest Oversight of ticketed dining and on

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Speaker 1: site grub, which calls on the FTC to investigate concession

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Speaker 1: price gouging at publicly funded stadiums. Has anyone who's recently

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00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: been to a major sporting event can attest food prices

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Speaker 1: are out of control. Giving your intersection of sports and politics,

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Speaker 1: i'd love to hear your take on this. PS totally random,

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Speaker 1: but you have a favorite political comedy. Dave nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: three is high on my list, Chris Pittsburgh, you know

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Speaker 1: that's actually a good It's a good top five list

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Speaker 1: that I ought to come up with. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: the first movie I think of when you asked me

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Speaker 1: about a good political comedy is Distinguished Gentleman. It's the

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00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy one on Congress. It was written in early nineties.

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Speaker 1: I remember in the moment I felt the same way

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Speaker 1: about that movie that I felt about Idiocracy the first

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Speaker 1: time I saw it when it came out in No. Six.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say it age as well. I think Distinguished

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00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Gentleman does as good of a job of explaining how

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00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: Congress actually works, or excuse me, how Washington works, since

759
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: it's a class that I teach for my friends at

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Speaker 1: USC than any any other. Dave's a good one, don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, Dave's in that my top five, but

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Speaker 1: Distinguished Gentlemen probably I go a little bit higher because

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Speaker 1: it was written by ex congressional staffers, so there was.

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Speaker 1: There was little little grace notes of detail that were

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Speaker 1: just fantastic that Dave didn't have. Dave romanticized, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dave is sort of the West wingification of things, a

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Speaker 1: little bit, kind of like American President. You know, Dave

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Speaker 1: feels like it should have been an Aaron Zorkin even

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Speaker 1: though it wasn't. It's sort of the fantasy land versus

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Speaker 1: distinguished gentleman is a little bit more of a reality

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Speaker 1: check on it. So anyway, but I digress. Look, I

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Speaker 1: think you bring up an interesting point, and it's one

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Speaker 1: of those I remember when the sort of the snobbish

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Speaker 1: political media coop cooed Biden focusing on junk fees. But

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00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: this sort of incremental price gouging that takes place. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I do think sporting events and music events

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Speaker 1: are becoming we are pricing out the middle class, right,

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Speaker 1: And in fact, I would expand that to Disney. Right.

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Speaker 1: Look at how expensive two nights at Disney are, and

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Speaker 1: there isn't. I mean, basically, if you're not a Florida

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Speaker 1: resident and you get a little bit of the Florida

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Speaker 1: resident discount, it's hard to afford Disney more than sort

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Speaker 1: of once a lifetime, right, once a generation. It is

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Speaker 1: that expensive to do, and it is look, you know,

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Speaker 1: I could mind, Hey, I only paid fifty bucks to

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Speaker 1: go see the Rolling Stones, right, and I think and

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Speaker 1: I remember feeling price gouged when I was sitting in

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Speaker 1: the four hundreds for you too at ninety bucks. And

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Speaker 1: then of course there's the amount of money my daughter

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Speaker 1: spent to go see Taylor Swift that I may or

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Speaker 1: may not have helped subsidize at least one of the

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Speaker 1: concerts that you got to see, and that was well

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Speaker 1: into the three to four hundred dollars range. So some

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Speaker 1: of this is inflation, there's no doubt. But you know,

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Speaker 1: are we making sporting events? And you're right right, so

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Speaker 1: many taxpayer dollars are being used to develop almost all

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Speaker 1: of these venues. Right. There aren't many arenas or stadiums

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Speaker 1: that don't have some that didn't get developed without some

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Speaker 1: sort of public tax break. Some of it is quite small.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the owner of the Dolphins mostly built everything

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Speaker 1: on his own. But you know it's not like he

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Speaker 1: built the roads to the stadium that he got that

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Speaker 1: that certainly had some taxpayer, uh taxpayer involvement in it.

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Speaker 1: But all of these venues, all of these arenas open

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Speaker 1: air stadiums, closed stadiums where you see concerts, revivals, Disney

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Speaker 1: on ice, sporting events, concerts, et cetera. Right, they're all

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Speaker 1: massively going up in price, and there is this idea

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Speaker 1: of captive audience the process. You know, we've we've we've

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Speaker 1: we've had fits and starts. You know, we beat up

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Speaker 1: ticket Master. It feels like every once in a while

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Speaker 1: when we when when it looks like everybody's hey, look

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Speaker 1: we're we're going to protect the consumer. Let's go after

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Speaker 1: ticket Master because they're kind of the ticketing monopoly, although

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Speaker 1: the monopoly is less than it was than it once.

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Speaker 1: But you're getting at something that I think that there is.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's always a question are we going to

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Speaker 1: hit a point where the average fan is priced out

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Speaker 1: of being able to attend to these games? NFL games

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Speaker 1: feel that way, you know, and you throw in the

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Speaker 1: hassle of it all, right, it's not easy to get

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Speaker 1: to in some cases that for the price, the hassle

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Speaker 1: is the experience worth it? Right? You start factoring all

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Speaker 1: that in and you know, there's so many different velvet

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Speaker 1: ropes that they want to sell you as well with

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Speaker 1: these experiences, and then these teams and these even entertainers

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Speaker 1: prioritize the experience for the super elite because they can

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Speaker 1: basically profit more on that, creating more velvet rope moments

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Speaker 1: for those that can afford it, because that's where you

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Speaker 1: can get your extra cash, that's where you can get

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Speaker 1: your extra profit. Not providing those experiences for the middle class,

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Speaker 1: not even providing the opportunity beyond obviously financially being able

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Speaker 1: to have the opportunity. It is. Look, I'm at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm a free, free marketer. But

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Speaker 1: I think that you are a large customer base is

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Speaker 1: better than a niche customer base that is extraordinarily wealthy.

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Speaker 1: You may make a good business out of that for

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Speaker 1: a few years, but that is not a long term

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Speaker 1: strategy for success. Disney World works because it seems to

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Speaker 1: appeal to all, but the minute Disney World creates these

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Speaker 1: barriers to entry that are now higher and higher for

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Speaker 1: the working class, well, then suddenly Disney isn't for all.

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00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: And suddenly Disney releases a DVD or a movie or

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Speaker 1: a new show on streaming, and people don't want to

844
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Speaker 1: give you the six dollars a month anymore, the ten

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Speaker 1: dollars a month anymore in order to get access to

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Speaker 1: those princess movies or get access to some of these,

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00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, fun animated shorts, and then you suddenly lose

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Speaker 1: pieces of your customer base. So look, I think I

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Speaker 1: love the idea. You know that you focus on publicly

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Speaker 1: funded stadiums. I would love find me the stadium or

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Speaker 1: arena that didn't have some public funding help. And again

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Speaker 1: to me building roads and freeways that explicitly get to

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Speaker 1: your stadium, like the Joe Robbie Stadium. Yes he did

854
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: the stadium part himself, but not all of the government

855
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: essentially infrastructure that was needed to support fifty to eighty

856
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: thousand people going in and out of that place ten

857
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: or fifteen times a year. So, in fairness, there isn't

858
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: anything there. And you know, would it be interesting if

859
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: you essentially created two pricing structures where those that paid

860
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: taxes in that area got a discount, the same way

861
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: Disney does give Florida residents a discount. You get a

862
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: Florida resident discount. I assume there's one in California. I

863
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: don't know about that one. I know about the Florida one.

864
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: Because I live the I have lived planing around. There's

865
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: certain months, it used to be certain months a year

866
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: that the Florida discount would kick in. You know. It's

867
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: basically I think it would be the times that others

868
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: were traveling less and they wanted you know, it used

869
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: to be that Disney saw, just get people in your

870
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: park and then you can sell them other stuff, even

871
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: if you get them in the park for free. And

872
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: it used to be the mindset of stadium owners, right,

873
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: gets you into the park, you know, buy a ten

874
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: dollars coke, you know, so what if you got the

875
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: ticket for free? At least I got some money out

876
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: of you. But it's an interesting thought. I will just

877
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: tell you this. This is the type of populist politics

878
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: that cuts across partisan lines. Right when you're sort of

879
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: getting at something that annoys the liberal and the conservative,

880
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, man, what's this price gouging? Didn't

881
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: my taxpayers contribute taxpayer money contribute to this? Why am

882
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: I now paying an extra surcharge on top of the

883
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: tax dollars that already went to this? You know, so

884
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: I think it's a I think it's a good It's

885
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: like the stock trading ban at it's good populous politics.

886
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is good law, but I

887
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: do know it's good politics. All right, let me take

888
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: one more question. We'll do a little football because, like

889
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to do a whole monster mail

890
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: bag here that I promise this comes from daniel A.

891
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, Chuck, a few weeks ago, you mentioned

892
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: that both parties are likely to see new congressional leadership soon.

893
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: How much do you think the twenty twenty six midterms

894
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: will shape those races? For instance, if Democrats gained lots

895
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: of seats, could new moderates push for centrist leadership while

896
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: GP losses leave only hard right members to elevate a

897
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: more extreme leader. Or are there are other dynamics at

898
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: play beyond the math. Look, I think the math is

899
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: going to mean something, you know. Take take Chuck Schumer.

900
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: Though he's unpopular in the Democratic base, there's no doubt

901
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: about it. He has got many elected senators who don't

902
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: have the confidence in his leadership. But if Democrats gain

903
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: the Senate, are they really going to get rid of them?

904
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: They're not going to get rid of him. It's just

905
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: not the way senators behave even if there's a slew

906
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: of new Senators. So the point being his results matter here. Right, Look,

907
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: does Mike Johnson state speaker if they hold the House? Yes,

908
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's just yes, that's how it works,

909
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, it is it is. And is he gone

910
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: and not a leader at all if they lose control

911
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: of the House. Yes, that's going to be the case too.

912
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: By the way, I think both Schumer and Jefferies, if

913
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: Democrats don't win the House and Senate, they're both gone.

914
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: The question is whether any of them can survive what

915
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: I think is going to be knocked out on drag

916
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: out intra party fights in twenty eight on the direction

917
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: of both parties. You know which direction? Is the Democratic

918
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: Party going to go in a more democratic socialist direction

919
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: or in a more sort of business friendly direction. Right?

920
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: That is ultimately the larger argument that that party's going

921
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: to have, and I think the larger argument the Republicans

922
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: they're going to have is are they going to be

923
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: a sort of more of a populist nationalist party or

924
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: are they going to be a more free market business

925
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: friendly party. And that same fight in a different different

926
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: ways is going to and it's going to be interesting

927
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: because you have some people participating both in the center

928
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: left camp and the center right camp, hoping that at

929
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: least one of them wins their argument in their primaries.

930
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: It's possible neither does right and we get JD Vance

931
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: and AOC right, which would be you know, it's sort

932
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: of I joke. You know, if we got Ken Paxon

933
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: and Jasmine Crawt in Texas, it would be essentially a

934
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: preview of what would happen if both parties nominated from

935
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: their bases the next two presidential nominees. So I do

936
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: think the results in twenty six will have a huge impact.

937
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: The safest of the four leaders is Thune because Thune

938
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: isn't a Trump acolyte, but he is seems to have

939
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: managed Trump okay enough. You know, we'll see, but you know,

940
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: and I don't think losses will be attributed to him.

941
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: I think the losses will be attributed to Trump, which

942
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: weirdly could strengthen Thune. So, of the four, I think

943
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Thune is the least in danger, but all of the

944
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: other three very much their futures rely on the results

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971
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: will be I'm going to use this instead of a

972
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: little bit of a football in review. A little bit

973
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: we've had. We had our single best, most interesting college

974
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: football bowl day that you could have, and it really

975
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: was just not that interesting, right. I mean, I enjoyed

976
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: the BYU Georgia Tech game. I was glad to see

977
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: it was competitive. It does feel as if the Pop

978
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: Tarts Bowl is now the only non major bowl that

979
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: anybody seems to have heard of, which is just crazy, right.

980
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: You know, back in my day, the Gator Bowl, Liberty Bowl,

981
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Peach Bowl, which were not major bowls then none of

982
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: them were Citrus Bowl. You know, they had their own

983
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: cachetes about it. You know, the Sun Bowl had a

984
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: real history, the Liberty Bowl had a real history. I've

985
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: been to a Liberty Bowl, for what it's worth. I've

986
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: been to a Peach Bowl back in the day when

987
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: it was Miami's first bowl game in fifteen years, and

988
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: you still have the phenomenon, right. Look, the Clemson Penn

989
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: State game was just atrocious to watch. The only game

990
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: worse to watch was was the mim of Ohio Presno

991
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: State game. Literally, if you only if you were gambling

992
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: on it, were you watching that game. So I may

993
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: have given a hint away of how I was watching

994
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: that game, but I always made sure it was in

995
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: my four box. Even the NFL offerings. Right, boy, this

996
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: was just a Christmas dud for the NFL. All of

997
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: those games lacked a little something right. Obviously, relevance is

998
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: a big part of it, and there was no Patrick

999
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes right in theory it was supposed to be the

1000
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Commanders fighting it out for a playoff spot

1001
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: or the division, just like it seemed like that could

1002
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: be at the beginning of the season. So it was

1003
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: a good day for the NBA. As I told you,

1004
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: these were games worth watching, and I have to say

1005
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: the Knicks delivered. That was a heck of a game. Nicks, Calves,

1006
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: Wemby delivered as I promised you Wemby would, And man,

1007
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: you gotta love me some Anthony Edwards. You know, he's

1008
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: the he to me is the forgotten rising star. He's

1009
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: like the guy that sort of everybody wants to talk

1010
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: about Wemby and Jannis and Jokic. And then there's old

1011
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, who's kind of an old school He's just

1012
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: a you know, Lebron Kobe Jordan like player who you know,

1013
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of everything, wants to be

1014
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: that kind of player. And we forget Hey, don't forget ant. Man,

1015
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm a huge ant. Man. I enjoy it, Man, I

1016
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: enjoy watching him play basketball because it kind of feels

1017
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: like a throwback to the game I grew up with

1018
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties. You know, there's a there's

1019
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: this sort of a style that he plays with that

1020
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: I enjoy. But the NBA delivered, and you got to

1021
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: give it to them Karma, right. The NFL tried to

1022
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: steal it It's Christmas and it really just fell flat.

1023
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: And now you have so many opt outs by the way,

1024
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we end up dealing with opt

1025
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: outs in Bowl games, and you're dealing with, you know,

1026
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: teams that are deciding. Are we using this to try

1027
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: to see which players we want to keep? You know?

1028
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: And we're just seeing the same thing. And this this

1029
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: is a warning to college football if you choose to

1030
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: go to twenty four teams, because you'll get the last

1031
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: week or two of the season, you may get games

1032
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: that are meaningless, more games that are meaningless. Look at

1033
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: all the meaningless games now in the NFL, like next

1034
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: week the Packers. They don't even get me started in

1035
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: the Packers situation at the moment. Look, I obviously have

1036
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: skin in the game as a Packer fan. I the

1037
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: coach frustrates me. You guys, if you've learned anything from

1038
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: me is I I'm obsessed with play callers, and I

1039
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: hold play callers more responsible than anybody else when it

1040
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: comes to my two favorite foot ball teams, the University

1041
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: Remidi football, the University Remidi and the Green Bay Packers.

1042
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: And here's what frustrates me, right, I've gone, you know,

1043
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: soup the nuts on my frustrations with the Miami Hurricane

1044
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: play caller Shannon Dawson and how he does not call,

1045
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: does not game plan for the team, we're playing until

1046
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: the second half. It drives me batty. It's terrible, and

1047
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: it has put Miami in the situation of almost not

1048
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. I really believe that. But it almost

1049
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: cost us the A and M game. And it better

1050
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: he better actually game plan because if the Ohio State

1051
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: team shows up that showed up against Indiana, Miami could

1052
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: beat that team if they actually gained plan to face

1053
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: that team and don't wait until the second half to

1054
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: start play calling against the actual defense you're facing, not

1055
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: just simply getting your offense offensive issues worked out, to

1056
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: see what's working and what isn't. Well, my complain about

1057
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: lafleor is and this is something me and my packer

1058
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: buddies we've been talking about a lot in our text chain.

1059
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: Why is it the little floor looks like he is

1060
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: more dynamic of a play caller when Willis is at

1061
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: quarterback than when Love is at quarterback. And you know,

1062
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Love games. Look, he wins, he's got a good record,

1063
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: and you can't you know, it is never flashy with Love.

1064
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: And you know it's not like Farvar Rogers both were

1065
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: a bit more. You know, Love is just very careful.

1066
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: By the way, that's pretty responsible. He runs the offense well,

1067
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't improvise as much, and I think that's the

1068
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: jenesiqua that's sometimes missing from you know, from Jordan love

1069
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: apologists like myself, because there isn't like these you know,

1070
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: you know he does. He is pretty good at sort

1071
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: of when he moves around the pocket. But for whatever reason,

1072
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't like to run as much. And Willis, you

1073
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: know what you see with the packers is that there?

1074
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: To me, Malik Willis the last two weeks has looked

1075
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: like a better version of Jalen Hurts, has looked like

1076
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: a a version of Lamar Jackson that has succeeded in

1077
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: the past, right where he is comfortable behaving like a

1078
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: running back at times. Right, and he will both you know,

1079
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: both Jalen Hurts and Lamar you know, they both have

1080
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: learned not to take as many hits. But early on,

1081
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, they were running backs who could throw the ball.

1082
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: And I think Malik Wilson Willis was and this is

1083
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: why it took him a while to develop. I think

1084
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: from Liberty and etcetera said he was really a running

1085
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: back who could throw the ball, and who could game

1086
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: plan and who could read a defense and he's obviously

1087
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: and when you think about where Laflour, yes he comes

1088
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: from McVeigh, but it's sort of that McVey Shanahan, the

1089
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: larger Shanahan tree, and the Shanahan tree does like to

1090
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: emphasize the running game. And it's clear to me that

1091
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: Lafleur wishes Jordan Love would run more. And if he would,

1092
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: I think he would game plan more that you would.

1093
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: You would see more run RPOs that where the R

1094
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: was picked before the P was picked and the quarterback

1095
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: did a little bit more running than he does. And

1096
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: when you know, it's sort of when that system is

1097
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: working on all cylinders, it's when you have a quarterback

1098
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: that is willing to run. And it does seem as

1099
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: if for whatever reason, and I don't know enough. I'm

1100
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: not a Packers beat reporter, but I'd love to know.

1101
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: Is this something? Are we protecting Love? We're afraid of

1102
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: him getting hurt? Has there been issues? Is it like

1103
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: you know that they don't want him to take hits?

1104
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: Does he not want to take hits? You know, we

1105
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: don't know the full situation, but for whatever reason, the

1106
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: play calling feels much more dynamic over the last couple

1107
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: of weeks when Willis has been there, now part of it,

1108
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: maybe the stakes are lower, and so Lafleur doesn't second

1109
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: guess himself as much when Willis is at quarterback than

1110
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: when Love is at quarterback. But as a fan, as

1111
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: a as a fan who watches every play, there's a

1112
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: noticeable difference into how he calls it. There's a there's

1113
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: a liberation in the play calling decisions. I feel like

1114
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: that that Lafleur makes when Willis is there, then when

1115
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: Love is there. And you know, look for all the

1116
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: Packer fans that have enjoyed the way the offenses look

1117
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: these last two weeks, and I'm one of them, I'm

1118
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: also mindful they lost the last two games. First one

1119
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: was a freak way to lose, and you know, the

1120
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: Ravens game was I don't know. I mean, clearly, losing

1121
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark in the trade of Micah Parsons matters a lot.

1122
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: If Michaeh Parsons gets hurt, we have nobody to stuff

1123
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: the run. And my god, I mean, it looked like

1124
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: Derrek Henry was back in high school. It was just

1125
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: ridiculous that he got over one hundred yards and so

1126
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you do on offense if you

1127
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: can't stop the run on that front. So, but I

1128
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: go back, that's the question I have, and that's the

1129
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: question we're going to see, you know. I mean, I

1130
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: assume Willis plays again in the final week because the

1131
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: Packers have no reason to play. I'm a little concerned

1132
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: about Jordan Love rust for what it's worth. So maybe

1133
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: let's treat it like a third preseason game, or maybe

1134
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: he plays for a quarter and then you bring in Willis.

1135
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: Be careful there. But there's something off I think in

1136
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: the relationship between Jordan Love and the floor that is

1137
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: that is a that would be a theory I would

1138
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: pursue if I were a Packers beat reporter. Do are

1139
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: they not as in sync? Why does the offense look

1140
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 1: more dynamic when Willis is running it? It's just a fact,

1141
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: It's true. Is it just as simple as Willis is

1142
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: willing to run and Love isn't? Is it different play calling?

1143
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: Is it different RPOs that he's given? Is it simply?

1144
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, Willis playing for a job. I'm curious.

1145
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's not under contract. Do the Packers get

1146
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: anything for him? If I were the Miami Dolphins, and

1147
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel stays Malik Willis would be an incredible quarterback

1148
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: for them. He could be the guy that unlocks that team,

1149
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: that offense in a way that too and never could

1150
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: unlock because that was a case where they couldn't use

1151
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: they couldn't have to run the ball. But if you

1152
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: get Mike McDaniel, who was, to remember, a run game

1153
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: coordinator first, and he's essentially wants to be a run

1154
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: first team and the Dolphins have been a bit more

1155
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: competitive when they've just decided to screw it to him,

1156
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: let's be a run first team. Well what if that's

1157
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: Malik Willis back there with Devon a Chain h and

1158
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: Oli Oli Gordon Jr. And you have Jalen Waddle and

1159
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: you have a couple of those good receivers and you

1160
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: have a main leak Willis that can also run the ball.

1161
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: As a Packer fan, can the Packers get first or second?

1162
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: Can they at least get a second round pick for him?

1163
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: In this day and age of the NFL, do you

1164
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: want to pay a backup quarterback reasonable money to keep

1165
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: them around? Given this is now two years in a

1166
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 1: row where the Packers have had to play meaningful games

1167
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback. Right, These are all questions that

1168
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 1: the Packers have to the side in the off season.

1169
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: But it's interesting there all right, a few storylines for

1170
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: the upcoming quarterfinals of the College Football Playoff. Obviously, you've

1171
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: got Miamu Versaile State. I love that my friends at

1172
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: ESPN are promoting the historic nature. The last time they

1173
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: met when stakes were this high was when a controversial

1174
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: flag was thrown by a Big twelve official by the

1175
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: name of Terry Porter calls the past interference that hand

1176
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: to Jim Trussell in Ohio State their first national title

1177
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: for Ohia State, it was their first national title in

1178
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: over thirty years at the time and essentially jump started there,

1179
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: brought their program back to elite status. Without that victory

1180
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: over Miami, you know that if they lose that game,

1181
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: they was scandal ridden. Tressel was kind of driven out

1182
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: that hold the backle with the with the their big

1183
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: freshmen at the time, You know all of that Ohia

1184
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: State may never be the Ohio State we know of

1185
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: today without that controversial ending to that game, where if

1186
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: they just are another hurdle in Miami's drive to be

1187
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: the greatest greatest of their generation, which I still think

1188
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: they probably have a good, pretty good case for that

1189
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: back to back would have cemented it in a way

1190
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: that would have been different. Right, even though that one

1191
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: team is considered an all time, that entire entity would

1192
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: be I think it would be an elevated There wouldn't

1193
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: even be a debate with the LSU twenty nineteen team.

1194
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: But what it did for Ohio State, right, Ohio State

1195
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: hadn't won a national title in over thirty years, hadn't

1196
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: had always been a wannabe never really you know, it'd

1197
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: always been sort of the rung below, kind of like

1198
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: where Wisconsin football had been sitting for the last twenty

1199
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: five years, so close but can't quite make that next

1200
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: sleep where I would argue Oregon football is at right,

1201
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: which is boy, they seem to be with the big boys,

1202
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: but they when are they ever going to break through?

1203
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: Are they ever going to actually win a title? Can

1204
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: they ever actually break through? And so there's some fun

1205
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: storyline there. The Big Ten has a lot on the line, right,

1206
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm if you told me all three Big Ten teams

1207
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: lost this weekend, Oil State to Miami, Indiana to Alabama,

1208
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: and Oregon to Texas Tech. Right, there's the only other

1209
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: game is Georgia Ole miss which has no Big Ten

1210
01:12:55,160 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: team in it. What's the narrative, right, I'm just saying, Look,

1211
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm not predicting anything. And you know, the Big Tens

1212
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: fan base is I think, second to none. They have

1213
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: terrific fans. You know they'll they'll sell out stadiums for

1214
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: eight and four teams, So kudos to them. I just

1215
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: think it's a storyline that's sitting out there. I'm obviously

1216
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: very bullish in Miami's ability to beat Ohio State. I

1217
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: think Texas Tech. I think Oregon is much softer. I

1218
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: don't think they've I am not impressed with who Oregon's

1219
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: beat yet. Look, they beat Texas Tech. I'm not going

1220
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: to be a doubter anymore. But I'm a doubter until

1221
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: I see them play a team that can physically I think,

1222
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: bully them in a way they haven't faced yet. They

1223
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: didn't face Ohio State this year, they didn't face Michigan,

1224
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: they didn't face the more physical Big ten teams. Well,

1225
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: we shall see. Maybe Indiana does count, is that maybe

1226
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: Iowa does count. But look at the struggles they had

1227
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: with Indiana and Iowa, who are built more physically than

1228
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: Oregon is so I have some I have some suspicion there.

1229
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: And then of course there's the the question I have

1230
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: in Indian Alabama is you know you have the whole

1231
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: hot you know there used to be there was a

1232
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: bit of a the It seemed as if we went

1233
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: through a period in the eighties and nineties where the

1234
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: team with the Heisman Trophy candidate usually lost. There if

1235
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: they were playing a meaningful little game, usually lost. And

1236
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: the assumption was, well, the player wasn't around as much.

1237
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: They were basically on the banquet circuit because if you

1238
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: win the Heisman Trophy, it also means you likely win

1239
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: a Davy O'Brien or you win the and there's all

1240
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: these awards ceremonies, and yes they've consolidated it's somewhat into

1241
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: one thing. But you're you're doing you're making more money

1242
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: than you've ever made at any time, and appearance fees,

1243
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe you're starting a business, maybe you're doing all sorts

1244
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: of stuff. So you have the distraction issue that is

1245
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: that is that never mind the overall distraction that every

1246
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: players are facing with the portal being portal door opens

1247
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: two days after the Miami game, one day after the

1248
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: January first games, which is what's leading a lot of

1249
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: people to assume that Old Miss gets just hammered by

1250
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: Georgia because half those players are trying to figure out

1251
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: what hour they should sign with LSU to transfer from

1252
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: Ole Miss to LSU and follow Lane Kiffin. So the

1253
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: two question marks I have in Alabama Indiana. One is

1254
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: Kaylen de Bor is a great game planner, Okay, and

1255
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: you can't deny that he's not the guy. You know,

1256
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: Alabama is better in bigger games than they are in

1257
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: smaller games. So I you know, and you look at

1258
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: Kaylen de Bor's record in playoffs at lower levels, how

1259
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: he handled big games at Washington right, it did seem

1260
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: as they he was a game planner. Indiana has some

1261
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: significant injuries on defense, including the one where they lost

1262
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: the lineman. Thanks to their celebration of the Big ten game,

1263
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: that's not an insignificant loss. So and the Rose Bowl.

1264
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: You know, this is the biggest stage Indiana's ever played on.

1265
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: Now we're going to keep saying that right wherever stage

1266
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: they are, it's the biggest stage because and you know,

1267
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: look when you're when you're knocking on the door of

1268
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: the elite club. Right Indiana Oregon, right, you certain certain

1269
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: entities already. Alabama can lose and it won't matter to

1270
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: their long term legacy. Indiana loses and suddenly is out.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't play with the big boys right up. The

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Speaker 1: first time they face an SEC opponent, look what happens

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Speaker 1: to them. So the pressure's more in Indiana. Alabama's playing

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Speaker 1: with house money, just like the pressures more in Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Miami's playing with house money. The pressure's more on I

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Speaker 1: think on Texas Tech in the Texas Tech Oregon game

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Speaker 1: for what it's worth, because the Big twelve, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: Miami got its win to prove it belong. The Big

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Speaker 1: twelve hasn't gotten its win by US win over Georgia

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Speaker 1: Tech is not the same as as Texas Tech knocking

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Speaker 1: off Oregon. And will I think Texas Tech is on

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Speaker 1: the level. I really do. But you got to see it, right,

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Speaker 1: they're knocking on the door and they want in, and

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Speaker 1: the winner of Texas Tech Oregon has a better shot

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Speaker 1: of get letting the door than the loser does obviously,

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Speaker 1: and then Georgia olemiss I think the I think I

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Speaker 1: am I am betting that that Georgia just sort of

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Speaker 1: smokes them, and it has more to do with distracted

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss players than it is debating whether one side

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Speaker 1: is better than the other. I just think it's simply, uh,

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Speaker 1: George is better in general. And you're gonna have half

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Speaker 1: of the old Miss team thinking about it's uh how

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Speaker 1: how much money they're gonna get paid at LSU. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I am awfully confident if I I'll say

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Speaker 1: you where I am either blindly loyal to my my

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Speaker 1: homies uh in Coral Gables, or I am right about this,

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Speaker 1: and that is I think. I think the point spread

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Speaker 1: on this is just ridiculous and absurd, and I think

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Speaker 1: this gets it to how perception. You know, again, a

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Speaker 1: point spread doesn't indicate whether these teams are close. It's

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Speaker 1: how the public regards them. And there is a belief

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Speaker 1: that Ohio State is a juggernaut and that Miami it

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Speaker 1: can all fall apart at any moment, right, And it's

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Speaker 1: all about recency bias, and Miami has fall has not

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Speaker 1: met the moment. Although I would argue that the Miami

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Speaker 1: teams in the last ten years wouldn't have won that

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Speaker 1: A and m game. This team seems different. We're going

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Speaker 1: to find out against Ohio State. But that's that nine

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Speaker 1: and a half point spread. I just don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that game this game is. If it's

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Speaker 1: more than one score, I'd be surprised. I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be another slow game. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be another grinder, particularly in the first half. And

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I don't think Miami wins if

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Speaker 1: Ohio State scores more than twenty four points. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Miami can score thirty one or twenty seven

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Speaker 1: or twenty eight. I think if Miami wins this game,

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Speaker 1: it's because they win the game twenty four to twenty,

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seventeen, twenty to seventeen. You see where

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Speaker 1: I'm going. That's that's my expectation on that. But I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you I'll say what I said at there. I

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Speaker 1: do think it's about time look to just letter rip.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have to if we fall behind by

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Speaker 1: ten points. I want to see, you know, let Carson

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Speaker 1: Beck live or die with him, don't try to protect

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Speaker 1: him anymore. And I still think there's too much play

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Speaker 1: calling that's done to protect rather than simply to let

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Speaker 1: the chips fall where they may. All right, Um, I got,

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Speaker 1: like I said, coming up, we'll have one more drop

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Speaker 1: this win. I got a couple of what ifs that

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Speaker 1: I am doing based on your feedback, two pretty big ones.

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Speaker 1: One I've already told you that I'm gonna do about

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Speaker 1: twenty what if Trump wins a twenty twenty election. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually going to put two different what ifs into the

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Speaker 1: same episode there. I'm also going to do a Powerhouse

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Speaker 1: mail bag. We're going to go forty five minutes full

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Speaker 1: just questions. So, by the way, if you're listening now

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Speaker 1: and you want to get a question in under the

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Speaker 1: under the under the deadline, submit asap. So with that,

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Speaker 1: thanks for your support, thanks for listening, and until we

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Speaker 1: upload again,