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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is two the August thirteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number twenty six. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're life from Oxnard, California. It is our next last show.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll be the final show we'll do from out

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Speaker 1: here in Knoxnard. It's been a lovely, lovely three and

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Speaker 1: a half weeks. It's not for us to go home,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna head out on Thursday, heading out to Hawaii,

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Speaker 1: and then will be back home on Sunday. But we

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Speaker 1: got some Cowboys news talk about today. We've got us

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Speaker 1: some injury updates, a lot of guys missing yesterday and practice.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that a little bit, do a little

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Speaker 1: blanket coverage, and then we'll spend the bulk of our

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Speaker 1: time talking about one Dak Prescott and his contract and

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Speaker 1: all the news and reports that were coming out yesterday

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Speaker 1: So I think we'll have to kind of filter through

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Speaker 1: all these reports and see what we think about all

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Speaker 1: start with some of these injuries. Yesterday. I think it

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Speaker 1: was a total of eighteen out of the ninety players

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Speaker 1: like Jalen Smith and the tight ends, Blake Darlin, Dalton Schultz,

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Speaker 1: Johnson gets hurt during practice. Let's go through this and

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Speaker 1: are that are not practicing right now. Let's start first

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Speaker 1: with are there any injuries right now that are longer

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Speaker 1: term that are concerning that are not just your Oh

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Speaker 1: Luke Gifford is going to be out for a while

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Speaker 1: with that ankle sprain. As of right now, that is

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper raises some question marks there. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. The only thing I could think

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Speaker 1: hour early yesterday, and I'm confident it's just because they

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Speaker 1: your own Sometimes because you have an agent, agent has

427
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Speaker 1: clients on a lot of different teams, so sometimes they're

428
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Speaker 1: just having conversation and they happen to throw something out

429
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Speaker 1: and another team knows something about the business that's going

430
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Speaker 1: on with another team. It's easy to assume that a

431
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys front office member ran and told the media what

432
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: Dak's asking for, which totally could happen, don't get me wrong.

433
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Speaker 1: But also it could be anybody else. And like I

434
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Speaker 1: said yesterday on Twitter, like whoever's idea it was to

435
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: put this out there, it had the desired effect because like,

436
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: the whole world is losing its mind. Dak looks like

437
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: a jerk, all you know, and now we've got juicy

438
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: headline gossip to talk about at what was otherwise a

439
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 1: pretty quiet training camp. Yeah, I think I think you

440
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head, Nick, though, if you've

441
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Speaker 1: done any kind of negotiation, or you've been around any

442
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Speaker 1: kind of negotiation, whether you're negotiating for to purchase a

443
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Speaker 1: house or you're negotiating a multimillion dollar NFL contract, the

444
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: point is, whatever the offer is, whatever you want to

445
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: net out, you need to kind of hit that sufficiently

446
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Speaker 1: above that so that when you settle back in it

447
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Speaker 1: gets to the number you want. Because let's say, for example,

448
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 1: Dak really want it thirty five. I'm not saying that

449
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Speaker 1: is the case, but let's say you wont it thirty five?

450
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Speaker 1: Reports out there or that is what he wants. Right.

451
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: If he goes out and he tells the Cowboys and a

452
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Speaker 1: a counter offer, I want thirty five, and the cowboys

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Speaker 1: set thirty, guess what in the cowboys mind? That means,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, we can probably get him for more like

455
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Speaker 1: thirty three or thirty two. Right, So you have to

456
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Speaker 1: kind of shoot way above so that when you net out,

457
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: you net out closer to where you're trying to be.

458
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Speaker 1: You're trying to set expectations so that the other side

459
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Speaker 1: feels like they get a bargain when you settle into

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Speaker 1: a price that actually makes sense. Sure, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's okay, ask for forty because

462
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Speaker 1: you know it'll be countered down. But how far down

463
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Speaker 1: are we going? Because like I'm I've been driving the

464
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Speaker 1: pay dack train since you know, probably November. Yeah, but

465
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Speaker 1: I don't want to pay him thirty six million dollars

466
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Speaker 1: a year or thirty five like he if he's gunning

467
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Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson money that's that doesn't sit well with me.

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Speaker 1: So that's the question everybody around the table, what would

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Speaker 1: you pay Dak? I knowing all these reports out there,

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Speaker 1: what would you be willing to pay Dak? I want to, like,

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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, I want to pay him like

472
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Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars more than Carson Wentz. I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair. It puts him in the top five. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can argue who's better between the roughly thirty two

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Speaker 1: five thirty more than thirty two thirty thirty two five.

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Speaker 1: It sounds great. That sounds awesome to me. I'd be

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Speaker 1: more than happy to do that. Again, what's your Is

478
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Speaker 1: that your max? That's no, I'd go it's hot thirty

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00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: four okay. And then at that point you're like, well, shoot,

480
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Speaker 1: what's another million rights. That's where you get into this

481
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Speaker 1: really tough situation because even if you start it, let's

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Speaker 1: say you start at thirty two, then you start kind

483
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Speaker 1: of thinking, okay. As more this draws out, the more

484
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Speaker 1: you start realizing is kind of maybe some acrimony that's building.

485
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Speaker 1: The more you start seeing that there's distraction that's building

486
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Speaker 1: among your team, the more you will say, man, just

487
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Speaker 1: get the deal done. If you give him an extra million,

488
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: it's fine whatever, right, And that's where it starts keeping up.

489
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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm asking is what is your max

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Speaker 1: Like where does it get to a point where you're like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not willing to go above this number thirty four

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Speaker 1: that yeah, proby four is your maxim like absolutely, and

493
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Speaker 1: but like I wouldn't be though what we do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely not above thirty four. I mean, when we were

495
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Speaker 1: talking about thirty that was still pretty high to me.

496
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Speaker 1: But then when you start when we broke down while

497
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Speaker 1: other other quarterbacks in the NFL are making then yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense. So okay based on the

499
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Speaker 1: market around the NFL. But had it not been for

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Speaker 1: that would be like less than thirty Nick. Yeah, you know,

501
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Speaker 1: I think that one thing we're kind of forgetting it

502
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Speaker 1: at some point in the In the last few years,

503
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Speaker 1: the quarterback the numbers of contracts have gotten back to

504
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Speaker 1: annual salary because a few years ago it was more

505
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Speaker 1: guaranteed money was the big deal because you can make

506
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Speaker 1: these salaries what you want them to be. I mean

507
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Speaker 1: with annually, it is long because a lot of times

508
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Speaker 1: you look at these deals and you're like Wow, I

509
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Speaker 1: mean thirty five million, and you're like, really, if you

510
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Speaker 1: look at it, it's only three year deal or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know, So I think that I kind of believe

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Speaker 1: that those numbers can be You can get to thirty five,

513
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Speaker 1: you can get to forty if you want to. It's

514
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Speaker 1: probably that last year, you know, may not be ever

515
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: obtained or a good point. Yeah, So I don't know.

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't talk about guaranteed money, but I

517
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Speaker 1: kind of think that's a little bit more in play here.

518
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Speaker 1: They can make that number average out to whatever they want.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good point that I forgot to bring

520
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Speaker 1: up when you first brought this up, is that we

521
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Speaker 1: know so few of the details like they's. It reminds

522
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Speaker 1: me of the Levion Belle thing last year where the

523
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Speaker 1: Steelers were like, well we offered him forty million, what

524
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Speaker 1: does he want from us? And like the guarantees on

525
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: the deal was like nine million dollars, Like the Cowboys

526
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Speaker 1: could have offered him thirty million a year, and you know,

527
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Speaker 1: for instance, Carson Wentz got one hundred and seven million

528
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Speaker 1: and guarantees total, what have they offered him thirty million

529
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Speaker 1: a year with like forty five million and guarantees or

530
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Speaker 1: something just I know it's not a small number, but

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Speaker 1: compared to other deals, a small number. Like we don't

532
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Speaker 1: know that stuff, and that's definitely important to keep in mind.

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Speaker 1: You Know, one thing I think the agent has got

534
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: to be thinking about here is why they're driving the

535
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Speaker 1: numbers of it, because if you look back the last

536
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Speaker 1: couple of years, you know, we look at this like logic,

537
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Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson has won a super Bowl and he's

538
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Speaker 1: been to another and he's won I don't know, he

539
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: doesn't won MVP, right, but he's he's been in the

540
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: consideration he should have been maybe one year, um Rogers

541
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Speaker 1: all these other things. We look at it like what

542
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: has Dak done to be at that level? But if

543
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: you look back the last three or four years, what

544
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Speaker 1: did Garoppolo do? And Stafford and Derek Carr and all

545
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: these guys do Cousins and so that's kind of what happens.

546
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Speaker 1: And so here we are and it's his turn, and

547
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: he's right those guys that I think at one point

548
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Speaker 1: some of those guys have been the highest paid player

549
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: in the Jimmy Garoppolo and Kirk Cousins were both made

550
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Speaker 1: the highest paid players in the league at the time

551
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: that they sign there. But that's also what they're going

552
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: That's also where the rub is because if you believe

553
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Speaker 1: what Stevens said publicly this time, he said, they're not

554
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Speaker 1: going to be setting the market, right those quarterbacks set

555
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: the mark. He's saying, they're not going to set the market.

556
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: He says they want to pay a market fair contract

557
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: to Dak, but they're not going to set the market.

558
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: And I think that's actually the right way to do it.

559
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: Just because those other teams made decisions that I think

560
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: we're poor decisions based upon the track record of those quarterbacks,

561
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the Cowboys have to make that same decision. Now,

562
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: you could get yourself into a standoff, but the fact is,

563
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I think you have to be physically responsible and say,

564
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: what's our budget, where do we think he really ranks,

565
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: and how do we think that should affect the salary

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Speaker 1: we offer. If Stephen Jones to this point, you know,

567
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: say the last three four years, he's really taken the

568
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: reins and had a lot of the say in this

569
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: type of stuff, like he's proven pretty good at to

570
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: this point. Like the deals they've been doing in that

571
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: stretch make a lot of sense for the Cowboys. Do

572
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: you guys feel like there's been some some talking about,

573
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: well Dak being the quarterback of the Cowboys, that you

574
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: know he's gonna get money with endorsements and things like that,

575
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Like maybe the Cowboys might use that as far as

576
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: some leverage of being the quarterback. But do you guys

577
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: think that's fair? I don't. I don't think that that

578
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: should matter at all, because just like what you get

579
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: from incentives or endorsements and all that you get on

580
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: the other end, probably an unfair load of criticism by

581
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: being the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. But I would

582
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: I think it is fair because I think it's like

583
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Speaker 1: the same thing with every other job. When you take

584
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Speaker 1: a job, they tell you about all the extra benefits,

585
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: and they all the other extra benefits sometime sometimes makes

586
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 1: up the difference on salary. So for example, if you're

587
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: being paid a little bit less, but your medical insurance

588
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: is much better than the typical market medical insurance, or

589
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: you get these other extra perks that are much better

590
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: than what you would get anywhere else, then that factors in,

591
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: and that that would be a part of my decision

592
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: making if I'm deciding to take this job for a

593
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: little less money, not to get into our dirty laundry.

594
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: But like, doesn't that apply to all of us, like

595
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: the way jobs at the Cowboys work for all of

596
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: us regular people. Hell yeah, So I get your point.

597
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean it reminds me a darker. To Marcus Lawrence,

598
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not my problem to help you figure

599
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: out how that works. And like, if I'm Dakman, that's

600
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: all great, and I'm gonna get more endorsements and there's

601
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: no state income tax in Texas and all this good stuff.

602
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: I think it's nice. I kind of find the balance

603
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: between I agree with you is like I still want money,

604
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: Like I want a better salary, absolutely absolutely, but I

605
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: think I think it had it's a nice perk, and

606
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: like in his heart of hearts, like not even because

607
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: he grew up a Cowboys fan, but for all of

608
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: the other reasons, like Dak doesn't want to be anywhere else.

609
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: He wants he wants all of that, and if you're

610
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you're just like, Okay, well then go to

611
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: another team. Then. I mean, at the end of the day,

612
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: they know what their value is and what wearing the

613
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: start brings to everybody that wears it out here. This

614
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: is who do you feel right now? How's the upper

615
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: hand at this point in this whole negotiation. I don't

616
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. Ques don't. I don't know

617
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: that either, Honestly. I think it's kind of a tossub.

618
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I think they both have leverage because if you're Dak,

619
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: don't you want it done before the season starts. Well,

620
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: he can have the upper hand if you try, if

621
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: he wants to, I don't think. I don't think anybody's willing.

622
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is willing. He would press the

623
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: nuclear button right And I said that a couple of weeks,

624
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: a couple of shows ago. I was like, if you

625
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: want to go completely nuclear, there is a way where

626
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: the players could take a lot of the leverage here

627
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: at the beginning season. I don't think they want to

628
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: do that because I don't think they ultimately want to

629
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: hurt their teammates. That's really the bigger thing. They don't

630
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: want to hurt their teammates, and that would certainly hurt

631
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: their teams. I think Dak does have the upper hand

632
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: because he's a good quarterback, and if this team even

633
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: comes close to approaching its goals in twenty nineteen, he

634
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: should be worth more when the season's so answer this

635
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: question for me and not just you know. Okay, let's

636
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys win nine to twelve games, get to

637
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs, maybe win a playoff game. Shoot, maybe they

638
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: even make a Super Bowl run. Add that to Dak's resume,

639
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: and then factor in you know, if that were to happen,

640
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Speaker 1: Dak will get tagged and he I mean he ain't

641
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Speaker 1: signing on February tenth, you know, like he'll get tagged.

642
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Speaker 1: It'll go into the spring. Jared Goff will do a deal.

643
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Speaker 1: Somebody else, I mean, Patrick Holmes can do a deal

644
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Speaker 1: when the season ends, Like another quarterback will sign before

645
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Speaker 1: Dak does. If he doesn't sign right now, Okay, I think,

646
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: and that will make him more valuable. Play this thing

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Speaker 1: out for me. Let's assume that there is a stalemate

648
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Speaker 1: and the stalemate goes on for as long as it can.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is like, play out

650
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Speaker 1: for me what happens next year the year after if

651
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Speaker 1: there is no deal on the table that Dak is

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Speaker 1: willing to sign. It's I was gonna say that a

653
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Speaker 1: minute ago. It's really funny how like, you know, since

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Speaker 1: probably January, like we've all just kind of been like, well,

655
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Speaker 1: Dad's gonna get his deal, and that's all there is

656
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: to it, not really worth debating. But now we're at

657
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: a point it's starting to sound plausible like he could

658
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Speaker 1: play this season out and then get franchise tagged, which

659
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: I guarantee you a lot of Cowboys fans want that.

660
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: You know, for every fan they do for every fan

661
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: that loves Dak, there's another fan that's like, let's play like,

662
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: let's see what this guy's got. I'm not ready to

663
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Speaker 1: commit to him, you know what I mean. You can

664
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Speaker 1: go look in my Twitter mentions. Yeah, so it would

665
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Speaker 1: probably play out a lot like Kirk Cousins. He plays

666
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Speaker 1: out the season, he gets tagged. Depending on how the

667
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: season goes, you either start trying to hammer out a deal.

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Speaker 1: Maybe let him play on the tech for you, or

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Speaker 1: you let him play on the But I'm thinking, like

670
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Speaker 1: maybe you draft another quarterback if I mean, if you're

671
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Speaker 1: really not convinced he's the guy. I don't know how

672
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Speaker 1: early you would do that. I mean, well, he gets

673
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: stuff when you start looking at what he would well

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Speaker 1: when he was here, and what he did was tied

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Speaker 1: to Zeke being here. So there's a lot when you

676
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: talk about fantasking questions, that's something else that comes up.

677
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I still like the two Zeke. I think Zeke will

678
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Speaker 1: be here until I'm in the press box at AT AT

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Speaker 1: and T on September eighth and he's not there. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm beyond confident he's going to play games

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Speaker 1: for this team. That doesn't bother me right now. So

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Speaker 1: I'm factoring him in as part of this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: But but playoff for me beyond next year. So next year,

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Speaker 1: let's say he plays on the tag and there still

685
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Speaker 1: is no deal. What happens the year after that, then

686
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: you probably tag him again for more money, just like

687
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. And again like, if it plays out that long,

688
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: then I would hope the Cowboys are smart enough to

689
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: be looking at quarterbacks. But if you're clearly not confident

690
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: at this guy's gonna get the job then and honestly,

691
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: that scenario is why I want to just bite the

692
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Speaker 1: bullet and get this deal done. Like, yes, I believe

693
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Speaker 1: in Dak, but like I'm not sitting here trying to

694
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Speaker 1: convince anybody he's this top five quarterback. What I'm saying

695
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: is get the deal done at this number now so

696
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Speaker 1: you're not spending seventy whatever million in franchise tags that

697
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Speaker 1: and then you still don't have a long term answer

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. If you sign him this month, three years

699
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: from now, you could be ready to move on if

700
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: you want to, or he'll be a freaking discount by

701
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: that point, like a year from today he'll be fifth

702
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: and two years from today he'll be twelve. Or you

703
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: could play out these whole two seasons having to commit

704
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year or twenty six whatever it is,

705
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: and you and then and then what are you gonna do.

706
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna sign him when he's twenty nine to an

707
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Speaker 1: even bigger deal and that almost get out of here. Yeah,

708
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Speaker 1: just get it. And that's the other thing too, is

709
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Speaker 1: like these fans I'm on my soapbox right now, I'm sorry,

710
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: but fans who like don't want to pay Dak, They're like, well,

711
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: let him play out this season, then draft a quarterback.

712
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: You know, somebody, somebody suggested the idea of trading him,

713
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: just giving up on this season as a lost cause

714
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: so you can get to a tanga vloa or justin

715
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Herbert and then you can really run and you've got

716
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: this cheap quarterback. I'm like the team is positioned right now,

717
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: like note twenty twenty one, this is a big window

718
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: for them to try to get something done. Why are

719
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: you trying to compromise that? And I don't know if

720
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: Dak is going to be the guy that's going to

721
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: get that done for you, but I think you might

722
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: as well try with what you've worked to as symbol

723
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: instead of just blowing it up out of fear that

724
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Speaker 1: it might not work. Get the Cowboys afford not to

725
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: commit to Dak Prescott long term. Nick No, I think

726
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: everything that Dave was saying right there just it doesn't

727
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: make sense to do that to to to keep this

728
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 1: thing going. I think it's time to commit because it'd

729
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: be easier for them. Like you said, it'd be easier

730
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: and probably cheaper to do it this way, even though

731
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it is. It's basically do you

732
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: want to buy or you want to keep running? I

733
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: mean that's really what it comes down to. You keep

734
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: running and running, and you got to make that make

735
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: a decision here. So I think he's done enough to say, hey,

736
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Speaker 1: this is this is the guy we need to invest

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Speaker 1: in right now, um, because it just he, like Dave said,

738
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Speaker 1: this is the window, this is the time, and and

739
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: he's done enough to know that you can get him there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, knowing how hard it is to find a

741
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, and ro are you willing to

742
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: go back to the well to look for another one

743
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: if you don't sign that long term? That's tough? Well,

744
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. You think back of that year when

745
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: when when Romo got her and then we got Brandan

746
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: Weed and coming in we got all these others. Asked

747
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: Nick about the days of Quincy Carter and Clint Starner

748
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: and you name like all the quarterbacks that were rolling

749
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: through here. I mean, there is a I even think

750
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: about it. You know. Okay, obviously you're not going to

751
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: trade dak on the eve of the season, but just

752
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: play this season out and like the Cowboys will probably

753
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: be positioned somewhere between sixteen and thirty two in the

754
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: draft order, depending on how it goes. So then okay,

755
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: you want ta or Justin Herbert, how you how you

756
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: getting done? You're gonna do an Eagles or Rams thing

757
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: and trade away to you know, a lot of capital

758
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: to get there and then what you've got Dak on

759
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: the franchise tag, and to us sitting there, God, that

760
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: sounds like a nightmare to cover. Not saying you couldn't

761
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: do it. If that's what they want to do, I'd

762
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: be interested. And you know, to go back to the spring,

763
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: if there's a team that could get away with saying

764
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: goodbye to an accomplished quarterback, it's the Cowboys because their

765
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: front office isn't going anywhere, like their general manager's job

766
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: is not on the line. And I'm I'm fascinated by that,

767
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: just as somebody I love the salary cap, I love

768
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: roster building. I would be fascinated to see an NFL

769
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: team say no, we'll take our chances with labor by

770
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: Dak and we're gonna go draft somebody. I'd love to

771
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: see it happen. But if you're trying to win a

772
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: super Bowl with the roster as it is constructed right now,

773
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: I just don't know how realistic that is, because I mean,

774
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: they won thirteen games with Dak in sixteen and they

775
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get over the hump. So you know, you know

776
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: two is a hell of a player, or any of

777
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, he's amazing, but is he magically

778
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: going to be able to take you there right away?

779
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: Because that's what you'll need him to do, or else

780
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: he'll get expensive. The one thing I did think back

781
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: when they were building this team, and this started back

782
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: when they kind of started rebuilding after the offensive line

783
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: kind of was a problem. They were like, okay, let's

784
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: invest in our offensive line, and they built up this

785
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: offensive line and then they went out and spent the

786
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: pick that they spent on Zeke Elliott. My thought was

787
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: they were setting them up themselves up to top be

788
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: quarterback dependent. They were setting themselves up to where they

789
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: could have a team where if our quarterback isn't great,

790
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: we could still win. We just need a decent quarterback

791
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: because we're gonna run the ball. We're gonna run the

792
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: ball really well. Now that's kind of shifted a little

793
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: bit because I think Dak has played better than just

794
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: a decent quarterback. I think he's better than just a

795
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: decent guy. So the question becomes, could the Cowboys go

796
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: back to the philosophy of, hey, you know, we think

797
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: we built something that can be a little bit quarterback

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Speaker 1: independent for a lot of lack of a better way

799
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: to put it. If we go ahead and pay Dak

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Speaker 1: and I mean sorry, we goad and pig Zeke and

801
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: we go ahead and pay Amari, and we keep reinforcing

802
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: our lines and we keep building this defense. We think

803
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: we can go back to the well on the quarterback

804
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: if we can't get a deal done that we like,

805
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: rather than overpaying, and it creates an opportunity for us

806
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: to still be able to win games and get that

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00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: quarterback up to the point where Dak is. Remember Dak

808
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick. We think we can go

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00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: back to the well. I'm painting the picture of how

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00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: you could convince yourself totally that maybe that's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: It's completely theoretically possible. It would also be like probably

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00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: the baalsiest thing that an NFL team absolutely done, because

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00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: no team does that the quarterback is that happened. Nobody

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00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: walks away from a quarterback that is a good quarterback. Also,

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Speaker 1: let's you know, good for them for finding Dak. They

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00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: wanted Paxton Lynch, they wanted Connor Cook. Yeah, the guy,

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00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike White is everybody's least favorite person in

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00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: the world, and they liked him enough to draft him too,

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Speaker 1: So I mean this ain't I don't consider these guys

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00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,960
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Speaker 1: been super friendly to them over the years. All right,

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Speaker 1: Back to the Break. It is the final segment of

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Speaker 1: The Break live from Oxtard, California, we are gonna get

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Speaker 1: into some questions here. You guys can hit us to

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Speaker 1: sit me on my Twitter page at at Derrick Eagleton

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Speaker 1: and we get some of those questions. Damerson, pull these up.

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Speaker 1: I just thought of something. Yep, hear me out. All right,

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Speaker 1: what if the best thing is to actually have him

881
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: play this whole year without a contract. You know how

882
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: players on contract years they tend to perform better and

883
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: the live shows comes on even more. Maybe that happens

884
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Speaker 1: with him. Maybe you push that and see how he

885
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: does this year, and yeah, we may get to a

886
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl that way. Yeah, that that means that. The

887
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: only thing about that is that means that we'll more later.

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Speaker 1: But you get but you have to then most likely

889
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to franchise him at that point because

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00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: the fact that he would have he will become a

891
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: free agent at the end of this season. He's going

892
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: to basically say, well, I'll go test the market if

893
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Speaker 1: you don't franchise him, and you risk losing him. So

894
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: you got a franchise him at that point. He won't

895
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: hurt as much once they got that trophy, and then

896
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: it would be like, Okay, we're good and honestly. Honestly,

897
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys won him here, to be honestly,

898
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: and that's the thing whenever you and I think with

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00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: all three of these deals, when you got two parties

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00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: that want something to happen and they're negotiating, it's typically

901
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: going to happen because both teams want both parties won it.

902
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: And I think in all these situations, I think the

903
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: Cowboys want the player, and I think the player wants

904
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: to be here, So I think at some point they're

905
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: gonna find something that works for both of them. And

906
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: that's why this is confusing, which you know, maybe it's

907
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: another team or agent putting it out there, because you know,

908
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: if you want to take shots at Zeke, I understand why.

909
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: At least you know he's not here, he's in breach

910
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: of his contract like Dak's here. He's being Dak, he's

911
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: leading the team, he's doing everything you're asking of him.

912
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: So to air his dirty contract laundry in the media

913
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: just to make him look bad, which it did well,

914
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't sit well with Let's assume this for a second.

915
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: Let's assume that the Cowboys are preparing themselves to pay

916
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: him thirty five and they know when they get out

917
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: there and pay him thirty five, they gonna be like,

918
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: holy crap, why would you pay him thirty five? You

919
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: want to bring down the expectation exactly, So you're just

920
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: happen to let it get out there that maybe he

921
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: wanted forty and you got him down to thirty five.

922
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: Now it seems like it was more of a negotiation

923
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: rather than you just gave him everything. Right. And again,

924
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anybody is responsible specifically for this report.

925
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: Somebody put it out there, But the point is like,

926
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Speaker 1: there are lots of reasons why you can be motivated

927
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Speaker 1: to say things that get out into the media on

928
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: both sides of a negotiation. Sometimes it's about the negotiation,

929
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: sometimes about public perception. And you know that's why people

930
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: that are going into politics kind of leak out and

931
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: float that they might be going and running for a

932
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Speaker 1: particular office. They just want to see how people respond

933
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Speaker 1: to it. So then or some legislations are trying to do,

934
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: they kind of float it out there, see how people

935
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Speaker 1: respond to it, so you know what you're up against

936
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: whenever you actually golf all in right, So all that

937
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: stuff could be at play here, it doesn't necessarily have

938
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: to be pointed at Dak to say Dak's a bad

939
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: person or reflect poorly on him, as much as it

940
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Speaker 1: might be, just this is a good opportunity to be

941
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: able to kind of gave to what public sentiment is

942
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: and set expectations. Yeah, it just creates a firestorm for

943
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: him to have to deal with. Yep, certainly does do that.

944
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: And but let's get some questions. What do we have?

945
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's y'all want to move on from the

946
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: whole contract thing for a little bit. I can talk

947
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: about this all day, all right, getting way ahead. But

948
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: if Pauler ended up balling out this year and you

949
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: knew that, now, would that affect how you dealt with

950
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: Zeke at this point? Very very good question. I mean

951
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: it's but like is there is it even debatable? The

952
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: answer is obviously yes. Like if you told me right

953
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: now that Pollard really was Alvin Kamara, Hell yeah, it's

954
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Speaker 1: gonna change the way I negotiate with Zeke. Let's assume

955
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Speaker 1: your rooms in Baltimore. Let's assume right, Let's assume let's

956
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: assume you don't point Yeah, let's assume you don't give

957
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: Zeke a contract and you kind of call his bluff

958
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: and and he like, I don't think he's gonna miss

959
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: a lot of games. You may miss one or two,

960
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna miss a lot of paychecks.

961
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: And he shows up and he plays. But Pollard plays

962
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: really well. The same thing that happened in New Orleans.

963
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: He wasn't the only back, Kamara wasn't the only back,

964
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: but he certainly every time he got the ball was

965
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: making things happen. If you see the same thing for Pollard,

966
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: do you go back next year when you're still negotiating

967
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: on a long term contract with Zeke and say, literally,

968
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: our offer may have gone down. Yeah, probably, Yeah. I

969
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: mean that's that's the leverages you need that they don't

970
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: have right now, and they're trying to create it by

971
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: hyping Pollard up as the end all be all and

972
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: maybe he is, like he really might be, but we

973
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: don't know that, And that's where the leverage comes into play. Like,

974
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I don't think that's going

975
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: to happen, at least not on like an Alvin Kamara level. Well,

976
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: but but but doesn't that become a little bit of

977
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: the leverage that the Cowboys would have over Zeke to

978
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: go ahead and sign now for a number that may

979
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: be higher than it would be next year. If they

980
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: get into this season and they start seeing things from

981
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: Politt that suggests this guy could be our big time

982
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: playmaker that we need in this office. Well, I mean

983
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: the thing with Zeke is that you know he's gonna

984
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: be a year older obviously if they don't, if it

985
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: doesn't do it, same with Levion Bell and you don't,

986
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't care about the whole Well, he doesn't have

987
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: a year of football on him, you're still older. And

988
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: he didn't get as much money when he when he

989
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: did it the second time around, when he waited. I

990
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: don't think he got money out of this thing Ley

991
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: beyond Bells, No, he did. He's never gonna recoup what

992
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: he lost lost. So which is the reason why I

993
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: don't think Zach Zeke is gonna miss games. Yeah, and

994
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like, yeah, the price, that's

995
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: a good question because I think the price would definitely

996
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: go down even if he doesn't play that well, they're

997
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: still gonna draft somebody else probably to to you know, Hey,

998
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna sign or not, So

999
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Zeke would be franchised if I mean

1000
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: they could, well, they got two more years of that.

1001
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: That's that's interest. I mean, it's it kind of it

1002
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: feels like Dack to me almost. I'm like, either do

1003
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: it now and set yourself up for this window, or

1004
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: don't play it out and don't give him another deal.

1005
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: Like you could do that too. You could just talk

1006
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: about it forever. Do you think that that that Pollard

1007
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: could be the kind of player that at least could

1008
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: provide some of what Zeke revising? What I mean by

1009
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: that is, you know, it's kind of like what they

1010
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: did in New Orleans. They they didn't Kamara wasn't the

1011
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: guy that was doing everything for them. He was a

1012
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: guy that they brought in to be a real playmaker

1013
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: for them to make things happen. Could Pollard? Do you

1014
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: feel comfortable that Pollard can be that? Because if he

1015
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: can be that, then the Cowboys can always fill in

1016
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: with another guy that's that's more of your kind of

1017
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: just every down kind of back, or not every down

1018
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: kind of back, like your first two down kind of back,

1019
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: Alfred Moore's type that even if you go out and

1020
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: drafted them, you could get that guy and then you've

1021
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: got a running game that still is as a whole

1022
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: as effective as a Zeke Elliott. You can make the

1023
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: argument anyway you want, how Zeke is the MVP of

1024
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: the team, or you can say, you know what, DeMarco

1025
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: murder eighteen hundred yards, Dearren McFadden had eleven, you know,

1026
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: hundred yards and was fourth in the league running behind

1027
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: this with a bad quarterback. And then Zeke's come in

1028
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: and done all this. So anybody you put back there

1029
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: can be successful, maybe not to Zeke's level, but still

1030
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: be successful. I mean, I get you those couple extra

1031
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: yards by pushing like three defenders off exactly. I mean

1032
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: Tony Tony his the first run of the game. I

1033
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: thought it was impressive, the way he was kind of churning,

1034
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: like churning those legs and bowling people over. I don't

1035
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: we haven't seen enough. I actually wrote about it yesterday.

1036
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: It was wild to me the way they used Pollard,

1037
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: or rather did not on Saturday night and they're like

1038
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: nine plays, you're out, sit down, you know, Tyron Smith,

1039
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick, all pros, Tony Pollard take He's pick one.

1040
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't even he's a late fourth round pick, but

1041
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: they were like, nine reps is all we need to

1042
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: see from you. But right now, he's way too important

1043
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: to what they have to do. If Zeke doesn't show up,

1044
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: he is the guy that they're going to be counting

1045
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: on to make plays from the backfield. If he was,

1046
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: if he was out here just looking like a guy,

1047
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they would care. I agree, and that

1048
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, we don't know if he's gonna

1049
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: do it, but they certainly seem to think he's gonna

1050
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: be something or he is the best option they have

1051
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: for that right now. Yeah, right, If if you don't

1052
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: have Zeke, who is your best option that can do

1053
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: that right now? Pollard is your best option? Or the

1054
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: guy that didn't play at all, Alfred Morris, like they

1055
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: straight up, or I mean the guy the it's going

1056
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: to give you the big plays, Like yeah, you're right,

1057
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris might be your bell cow kind of guy,

1058
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be looking at Pollo to be able

1059
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: to make those big chunk plays that you're gonna be

1060
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: missing if you have Alpha Moors versus having Zeke. If

1061
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: he was, like I said, if he wasn't impressing out here,

1062
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they would care. I agree, but yeah, so,

1063
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: I mean, but he is I need to I need

1064
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: to see him, I need to see him do it.

1065
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: But the writing on the wall suggests that they're pretty

1066
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: semitting with him. Yeah, it's funny because I mean, we've

1067
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: all been waiting to see Polar in the game and

1068
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: then the gus saw just nine place. It's like, okay,

1069
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: so much for that. But we did our ranking of

1070
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: best rookies on training camp so far camp and the

1071
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: games and all that, and we had different you know,

1072
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: opinions all the writers, but it all started with Tony Pollard.

1073
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: Every single one of the writers had thirty six sitting

1074
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: at the top of the list. Then it changed from there.

1075
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: But you can go to the site to get the

1076
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: rest of them. But that says something because you guys

1077
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: have seen every single practice and it seems like across

1078
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: the board, everybody thinks he's been the best rookie. And

1079
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: on Friday will probably put something out of the best

1080
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: you know players of training camp overall, and I'm wondering,

1081
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: I think he might actually be in the in the

1082
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: top ten. I don't know, I don't know how it's

1083
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: all would I would have actually said when you said

1084
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: that he would be in the top five, he's not

1085
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: that that top tier. Like, there are three guys that

1086
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: I think we've kind of talked about a lot that

1087
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: we think we're in that top tier. Yeah, I think

1088
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: he's in that next tier though, of guys that have

1089
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: been really really good and consistently really really good. It's

1090
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: just it's the hardest position to evaluate in training camp.

1091
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: And he got nah, he got nine snaps. I like,

1092
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that they're just like, sit down, rookie,

1093
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: we're good. I hope I hope we go to Honolulu

1094
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: on Saturday and like the first play is like a

1095
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: read option and Pollard just houses it because it would

1096
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: be bas you know whose hopes that everybody here in Jones, Yeah,

1097
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Stephen and Jerry Jones will McClay better. Yet you know

1098
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: who doesn't hope that Zeke better yet option him, optioning

1099
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: him out of the backfield, let him go deep down

1100
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: the field and hit him for a touchdown. That says, hey,

1101
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: we have somebody. It's not just running back. We got

1102
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: a running back that catch too. Phil Let's say does everything.

1103
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: It's it's what he said right the middle. I mean that,

1104
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: but it ain't Pollard can do it. But like I'm

1105
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: telling you, Kellen Moore, you're not gonna He's gonna use

1106
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: these damn running backs, is what I'm trying to say.

1107
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: Because Alfred Morris caught a twenty five yards swing pass yesterday.

1108
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: I saw that, which is not like him, Like, that's

1109
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: not what you Wally scored a touchdown on a wheel

1110
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: route in seven on I'm like, yes, Kellen, yeah, yes,

1111
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: that was red zone. Send him down field, yeah, yes, yeah,

1112
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: caught it at the back of the end zone. It

1113
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: was really nice. Well, here's another one. Thoughts on Devin Smith,

1114
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: the former second round pick flashed in the game. Why

1115
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: is he not being talked about more? It's it's you know,

1116
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: he's not a rookie, and I know he was a

1117
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: high pick, but it's one of those things where like

1118
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: this sounds so harsh, but I just he's he's just

1119
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: one of those receivers, Like this is his fourth year

1120
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: in the league. He's he has been battling injuries for

1121
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: the vast majority of his career. I'm happy that he's

1122
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: healthy and hasn't had any problems out here. But I

1123
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: think every every team has receivers like that in camp. Yeah,

1124
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: I mean he could run obviously, but that's but I don't, like,

1125
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't seen like the type of speed

1126
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: that distinguishes him from another receiver, Like most NFL receivers

1127
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: are fast, and maybe he's lost a few steps with

1128
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: all the surgeries that he's had to have or whatever.

1129
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: But it seemed like he had that guy beat right

1130
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: in front of us at the did it wasn't? I mean,

1131
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't seen anything that gives me a

1132
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: ton of confidence he's going to make the team. I

1133
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: wonder if maybe he's got practice squad eligibility because he

1134
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: has spent I mean, he's been hurt for most of

1135
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: his career, right, So haven't heard I Looko's name talked

1136
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: about much this offseason. How has he looked in camp?

1137
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: And do we see him getting this spot in this roster? No,

1138
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. You're ready to just say no,

1139
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: there's I kind of agree with you. There's no way.

1140
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't see him. I don't look at the safeties

1141
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: that are gonna make the team. You got Heath, you

1142
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: got and you got Woods. Yep, there's your starters. Um,

1143
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: sounds like darry and Thompson areon. Thompson is so on

1144
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: the team. Like, if you want to take anything away

1145
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: from this show, yeah, I know that Darren Thompson is

1146
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: on the team, and you could say whatever you want,

1147
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: but he's we've heard, one of the smartest players on

1148
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: the team, and he's a great on special teams and

1149
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: he's really great at safety or not great, but I

1150
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: mean he's a he's he's the third press safety. He's

1151
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: on the team. So then now you got a decision

1152
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: to make cav On Frasier another special teams guy. But

1153
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: you know he's he's a veteran. And then you've got um,

1154
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: Donovan good Goodwin's a corner, Donovan Wilson's but good one.

1155
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh oh, you're saying that the very yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

1156
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: and then Donovan. I mean, I who would you rather have?

1157
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: I local Donovan Wilson, Yeah right, I mean, unless you

1158
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: got unless he's significantly better, unless the veterans significantly better,

1159
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: I breaks go to the young guy in my opinion,

1160
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: always my opinion. Yeah, especially when talking special teams and

1161
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. No, if he's gonna make the

1162
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: team one, it'll be like they're carrying in five safeties

1163
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: and two they just don't feel confident about Cavon or

1164
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: Wilson actually getting into a game and playing safety, like

1165
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: that's how he would make the team. But if I

1166
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: had to cut the roster down right now, I don't

1167
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: think he makes it. So that's my point. If Cavon

1168
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: is on the bubble, I think Aloca is lower down

1169
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: than him, right I just I think he's the odd

1170
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: man out on this thing altogether. He's not the name

1171
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: you're necessarily talking about everything. He's gonna make it. Every

1172
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: year we come to camp with like a veteran guy

1173
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: who started in the NFL who's on a short deal

1174
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 1: and he doesn't make. I mean Will Allen, Jasper Brinkley,

1175
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: Keith Rivers. You know, we talk about him a lot

1176
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: because we talk about him a lot because they got tier.

1177
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: But he might make. He might make, But he's in

1178
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: the same boat. Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and you look

1179
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: at the numbers on his contract. There's nothing in the

1180
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: language that is forcing them to hold onto him. Fleming

1181
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: would be the same way if any of these tackles

1182
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: could be amount, but they can't. Yeah, they're not going through.

1183
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: I really thought do you want to hit one last

1184
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: one just to wrap up the whole contract thing. Who

1185
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: is to blame for not getting these deals done earlier

1186
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: in the league year, the market, the agent, slash player,

1187
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: or the front office? Eagles, I say none of the above.

1188
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: I think with contracts, it's all about, like it really

1189
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: is about for this team, at least what I've seen,

1190
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: it's about deadlines. It's about when is the drop dead

1191
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: last moment that you can get the deal done if

1192
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: there is a lot of separation between them, and so

1193
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think they get that deal

1194
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: done in the off season because they didn't have to

1195
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: get that deal done in all season. That may also

1196
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: mean that the Cowboys get down to a point where

1197
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, we'll let this thing play out

1198
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: for this year and we'll make these deals, or we'll

1199
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: make at least one or two of these deals next year,

1200
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: because there's no hard deadline that forces them to do

1201
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: it right now, and so they can afford to sit

1202
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: and wait and not be pressed into making a deal

1203
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: that they don't like. Not only that, but it takes

1204
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: two to tango. I guarantee you Amari Cooper's not signed

1205
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: right now. Because Julio Jones isn't sight. I mean, I

1206
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: don't know what you want the Cowboys to do about that,

1207
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 1: And there's they can't force him to do a deal, right,

1208
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: So he's gonna because Julio my top Mike Thomas, or

1209
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: he's at least gonna you know, he's gonna raise the

1210
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: floor of what Cooper can ask for. Ye so you

1211
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: gotta consider that. I don't know about Dak like Dak

1212
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: is obviously, I mean, it does take two to tango.

1213
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: But like you know, we talked about the Eagles earlier.

1214
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: If the Eagles could get it done in June, why

1215
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: can't Why couldn't the Cowboys do that? Like what what

1216
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: were the Eagles willing to offer that the Cowboys weren't

1217
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: that got that deal done? Is it because WinCE was

1218
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: willing to take thirty two because he's had injury issues?

1219
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: Was it because the Eagles were willing to give him

1220
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: this humongous guarantee. I don't know. But it's frustrating is

1221
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: not the right word. But it's puzzling to me that

1222
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles were able to just out of nowhere in

1223
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: the dead of summer, be like cool, we're locking you

1224
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: up and this thing with the Cowboys is just I mean,

1225
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: you're drawing itself out to see a scenario whereas if

1226
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: Wentz really wanted to push for thirty four thirty five,

1227
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: he could have, like he could his representation could make

1228
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: the argument he should have been regardless of whatever Dak

1229
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: was app with Dak, that he could make the argument

1230
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: that he should be up there. I don't want to

1231
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: buy into the narrative that like could old down home

1232
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: North Dakota, Carsonans is willing to take less money. That's

1233
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: not That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is

1234
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: there can be a lot of different reasons why he

1235
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: decided to take the deal that he did when he did. Yeah,

1236
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: the point is, I think that it could have played

1237
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: out like this. For whatever reason, he and the Eagles

1238
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: figured out that that amount of money at that time

1239
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: was what he was willing to accept, and he was like,

1240
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm willing to accept this deal. This is the deal

1241
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: I want, right. So, yeah, he could have held out

1242
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: tried to get more, and maybe he would have gotten more.

1243
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: But you know that's just but we don't know enough

1244
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: about the negotiations and know really what we don't cause

1245
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: him to make that take that deal. I'd be fascinated

1246
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: to know what it would have taken to get Dak

1247
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: signed in June, Like, would they have had to just okay,

1248
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: you have to go thirty five and have thirty six

1249
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: like and if that's the case, that's probably why we're

1250
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: where we are right now. Yeah, So all right, we

1251
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys join us. We're back tomorrow. We'll be

1252
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: our final show from Ox and Art again. We have

1253
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: practice this afternoon at three thirty, three thirty to five

1254
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: thirty today and then another practice tomorrow afternoon, and then

1255
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: we'll be heading out to Hawaii for the second preseason

1256
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: game of the year. Till then, for Nick even Dave

1257
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: helm At Amber Garcia, I am Derek. This has been

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