1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Reveal reveale. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Look at us now, timpted. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: Jesus. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh do you want to us? Will it's time to bank? 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have seen three seventeen week is upon 6 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: us International Fight Week. Might as well do a pre 7 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: game preview brought to you by wherefore fired up for 8 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: this Morning Combat in the building right here, Bryan Campbell, 9 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Chuck Midden Hall, Luke Thomas. Thursday June twenty six, two 10 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: thousand and two, twenty five noon Eastern start today, But 11 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Luke just got off the bird, better late than never. 12 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: Fired up to be here, and a reminder that this 13 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: episode of Morning Combat is also brought to you by DraftKings. 14 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: With DraftKings to the Crown is yours. Shout out to 15 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: everybody watching on their DraftKings network on YouTube, please like subscribe, 16 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: Shout out to you audio only listeners just the same. Uh, 17 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: those are our social handles to follow us. But you 18 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: know why you're here, guys with the biggest pay per 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: view of the summer, at least in theory, is upon us. 20 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: The biggest star in this promotion, at least in my 21 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: eyes and your groin also is also here Conotojia cover 22 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: of the UFC magazine. But before we get into UFC 23 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: three eighteen Chuck Mianton Hall by the way of or 24 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: three seventeen or eighteen and Chuckmantonhall uncrowned fame and many 25 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: other I mean, this guy's like. 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Switching the horn. Where is that horn? 27 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: Oh? 28 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: There it is? I mean I should, I should. There's 29 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: no Ballely who for me. You're the one who just 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: came in from Florida. Man, So I just I just 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: rolled in on a train. 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Chuck. I mean, I'm gonna have to just break into 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: this right away and say, yes, lots to talk about 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: UFC three seventeen. God, I want Ilia versus Islam maybe 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: one day. But there was a major retirement this week 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: that has set the Internet with fire, and I'd like 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: to get your take. How will you ultimately remember CHEYENNEV listeners? 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Did she retire? 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 4: I didn't even Yes, she's going to focus on about 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: that woo you talk about uh you talk about like 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: burrying the lead there like I mean you do it 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 4: the same week because John Jones, I mean only you. 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, but no one about one of my 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: favorite fighters. She had a great I hope one day 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 2: she falls that bitch home. 46 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not talking about JP. All right, all right, hey, 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: it's already awkward you. 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 4: I just look at you and my butt starts itching. 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: I mean that's what you call. 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: That's that would have happened anyway. To be very fair 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: with you, uh, fired up as always to bring you 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: an honest Take a preview of Saturday's pay per view Clash. 54 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: It's International Fight Week, Hall of Fame. All that happens 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: with that, but chuck, maybe it goes without saying, but 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: we expect straight up honesty, maybe a little bit rawness 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: that we call real talk like men do. Is that 58 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: too much task? 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: No, I was trying to help you, all right, thank 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: you for that stuff. With that tagline, I want to 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: be clear. I think it's the worst thing about HIMK 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: Like literally from. 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: The beginning, from the bunker days, your shirt with that 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: phrase on them. I mean it sort of was fun once. 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: Consistency is key. I can't get my love. 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: He did it all the way through the more stuff 67 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: cancel culture. He was like, let me just keep doing 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: this stick here. 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: HR would call and be like, please fire this oath, 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: and we'd be like, well, he's you know somewhat. 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: We will kick off our breakdown, our analysis, our preview 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: to get you all kinds of fired up for Saturday's 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: UFC three seventeen card from Las Vegas to Poria versus 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: Dough Bronx Uh by getting in on this blanco because 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: because of course pregame preview only happens because of our 76 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: friends over there at Quervo. So Chuck and I are 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: going to shoot regularly. 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm not like that guy is no man, I drank 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the stuff. 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: We're more like blasts. We are straight shooters. Where Luke, 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: who the last ques Maybe. 82 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: It's not a word the last Yeah. 83 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: Well maybe I was talking about the former Belator champion. 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: All right, Juliana, okay, all right, little blanco for me, 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: little blanco for you. So, Luke, you are drinking what 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: you called a what has a neck cocktail? 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: No, it's like a red neck margarita. But there's a 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: better term for it. It's like forget what it is, 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: but basically a red neck Margaritare you go. 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: And make sure now? Last episode, last pre blanc. The 91 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: blanco is uh is my favorite here of the Quervo, 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: the smoothest, Luke, without question, We're gonna need another top 93 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to get another bottle of this blanco going. 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: So we're we're drinking the Quervo tradition oel tequila blanco. 95 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Let's get after it now, Luke, I hope you're not 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: going to put that cup through college. I hope you're 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: going to make a honest effort because last time brons 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: Standard did a great job sober. But then Luke's like, 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: you know, I. 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Might as well join them. 101 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, sometimes I have health challenges on 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: the show that I can't talk about. Okay, Okay, so 103 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: I couldn't actually drink that. 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: I love. 105 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: He's getting on you for having a good influence. You know, 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you I have aids. 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: I may not have it. I may not have been 108 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: a Day one truther on the on the Toporious story. 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: You know what I mean in the size of Luke's 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: extended genitalia whenever he fights, But he might be the 111 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: star that UFC that we as journalists and people that 112 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: provide for our family need. So this one goes out 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: to La Leenda himself. 114 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, I'll repo, Yes, I'll repo your car is 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: what I'll do. 116 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: Alsandro bar this one's for Cheyenne. 117 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: All right, that is excellent. A really good stuff needs 118 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: a little bit of ice. And you know what, it's 119 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: actually past. 120 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Noon this time. Usually were doing this at eleven twelve. 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, it is tough to drink at eleven am. 122 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: I got in the flight this morning. I had a 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: seven am flight out of Fort Lauderdale. The lady behind me, 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: they're like, what would you like to drink? You know, 125 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: normally what do people say at seven am? 126 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: Orange juice? Yes, coffee? 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: Maybe Blanco? 128 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: She goes, can I get two Bloody Mary's Florida. You're 129 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: having a bad day. 130 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: I get a steak sandwich and a Bloody Mary and 131 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: a steak sandwich, also brought to you by Cuervo. Of course, 132 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. 133 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: Shout out to that Blanco smooths. 134 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: Good stuff. 135 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Just puts me in the right mood, all right. They 136 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: always take a above earth view of these pay per 137 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: view cards. This is I f W. Luke Thomas. I 138 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: need a grade on the depth of this card. We 139 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: have two title fights atop. We have some very interesting 140 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: filler fights, if you will, From Roy val Van to 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: a few other great ones. What are you great in 142 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: the card? Because I've heard I've heard polarized reactions from 143 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: people on this one. 144 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: I I excuse me. I love this card. Yeah, I 145 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: love this card. 146 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: I mean I think if you're really there are some 147 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: things you can say about the card that are true. 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: Does it have a transcendental big star in a huge 149 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: stakes matchup? Well not exactly. Tuporius seems like he could 150 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: be the next one, but he's really not there yet 151 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: despite all the great work he did at featherweight. I 152 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: think he could become that with a win on Saturday. 153 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: So you don't, you know, you don't have an established 154 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: name like a McGregor or you know, John Jones or whoever. 155 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: You don't have that that's missing. You can nitpick about 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: some other fights on the card, but I'm just gonna 157 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: tell you, personally, going up and down this card, almost 158 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: every single one has something quite good about it, and 159 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: some of them are fucking sounds like you want to 160 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it a minus? 161 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: Is it a real I f W A minus? Or 162 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: is it a We've trained ourselves to expect to accept 163 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: a smaller. 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: So what I'm going to say is I'm giving you 165 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: that grade. That's it. 166 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm not telling anyone objectively. Oh if I'm doing a 167 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: hardcore standard, blah blah blah for me, dude, this fucking car. 168 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: I like it. I like the late editions, I like 169 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: the personalities. I like a lot of things going on. 170 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: How do you look at this card the same way? 171 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: I think that you know Joshua Van, you know, jumping 172 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: in in this position after having fought what June seventh, 173 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: three weeks later, he jumps in on this card and 174 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: this will be his fifth fight, and you'll see since 175 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: losing and within like an eleven month span. It's insane. 176 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: It's a crazy pace. And you get stories like that 177 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: occasionally against the number one guy, Fearless, he's the betting favorite, 178 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: he's fearless. He goes in there. I think that that's 179 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: such a bang for your buck for that swing about 180 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: like that. That's so that you get Peyton Talbot. He 181 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: has this cult following. 182 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: He's kicking off things that fight against my underdog all the. 183 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Way up and down this card. Nico Price versus Jacoby Smith, big. 184 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: Betting favorite in UFC history. Jacoby Smith might don't. 185 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: Get it, but I'm saying I love that fight because 186 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: it's an interesting fight. I love the Felipe Lima and 187 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: Peyton Talbot fight, even the Araujo Tracy Cortez fight. Like 188 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: every fight on there has some kind of redeeming. Well 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: maybe not the very first fight, but like basically first 190 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 4: fight is Jacoby smith ry guy. Yeah, the guy who 191 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 4: filled in for the guy who had the ankle monitor 192 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: mister versus. 193 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a lawsuit. 194 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: So that one ankle monitor fight. What is going on? 195 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: What happened here? Right? 196 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: You had a lot to say about that. I mean 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I had two tweets. I don't say about it, but 198 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: it resounded. I think it actually spoke to the matchmakers 199 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: in the end. No, no, no, it didn't. 200 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: All right, So we liked this card a lot, without question. 201 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it could have been islam Ilia, but I 202 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: think it is very important on the UFC to build 203 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: toward that. More on that to come on the fall 204 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: out of this. But let's get right there. At the 205 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: top of the card. It is Eliot's Aporia making his 206 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: second career appearance at one hundred fifty five pounds. So 207 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: previously he had handled and finished Ji Herbert in a 208 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: one off, but he gave up the one forty five title, 209 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: Islam went north to Welter Waight. There does seem now 210 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: that Islam is doing interviews again, like maybe he could 211 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: be coming back against Jack Dela Madelena in NYC in November, 212 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: so we'll see more on that. But what we have 213 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: this Saturday is to Poria facing a thirty five year 214 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: old former champion and Charles Olivera who is always going 215 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: to be dangerous as shit, the leading UFC finisher submission 216 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: expert in the history of the sport, two and two 217 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: in his last four but outside of that one sided 218 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: title loss to Mahachev, it was a spirited effort against 219 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: sar yuki In in a split decision defeat. So first and foremost, Chuck, 220 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: is this fight just a flashy coronation to Pouria to 221 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: become the tenth two division champion in UFC history and 222 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: maybe just maybe launch him into not stardom but super 223 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: stardom at a time when the UFC needs it. Or 224 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: is this a potential trap fight in waiting because del 225 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: Bronx at thirty five still got it, still dangerous anywhere 226 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: he goes now. 227 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a coronation, they put a minefield 228 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: in front of it, because that's Charles Olivera. The guy's 229 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: thirty five years old. I was having this discussion recently. 230 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: It feels like he should be like forty eight. You know, 231 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: the dude has been in the it feels like he's 232 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: been in the UFC for so long, which he has. 233 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: He's fought a lot of fights. I've not noticed, and 234 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe you have more to say about this. I have 235 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: not really noticed a like a diminishing return with him yet, 236 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: So in my mind, he's still the same guy that 237 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: he's been, probably the best version he's been. I think 238 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: that him being slept on, he's always carried a bit 239 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: of a chip on his shoulder for these types of things. 240 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: You can see it coming out already. He's like he's kind, 241 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: he's getting angry and being overlooked after all he's done 242 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: in the sport. 243 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: There's two dope box moments that let you know that 244 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: it's game time. If he utters the phrase that the 245 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: champion has a name, whether he's the champion or not, 246 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: or if he shows up silver hair Olivera, then you 247 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: know he's coming for your girl too. That's what I 248 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: need to see. Who shows up at the way. 249 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I feel like all the would 250 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: you say, like, is it a trap fight? Yes, I 251 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: mean if you were if you look at this as 252 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: a possible coronation, others putting to Pori in so he 253 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: can get the title and we can move along. Very 254 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: very dangerous opponent for him to do that against. 255 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: Because he thought he was getting Sarayuki in. But I 256 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: can understand from a promotional standpoint why you would do 257 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: somebody like Olivera. But Luke, I want to specific go 258 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: back to you and say, there were comments from Traporia 259 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: this week that I felt we're telling He said, Look, 260 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: normally it takes me two to three rounds to knock 261 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: these guys out because I have to work so hard 262 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: on slowly closing the distance to set up my combinations. 263 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 2: He goes, I'm gonna get an Olivera who's gonna come 264 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: directly for me. Then when Olivera sat down for the media, 265 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: he said, I'm gonna come directly for him. Is it 266 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: true that that that there's almost a tailor made element 267 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: to Olivera, even though he thrives in chaos, even though 268 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: he's dangerous, if he moves his head as little as 269 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: he did against Michael Chandler. He's gonna get kaoed. I mean, 270 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: it's gonna happen here. 271 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: At the same time, he took Michael Chandler down in 272 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: every single round, So that's there's that. I mean, I 273 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 4: think that people are asking, like, what what are we 274 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: going to get with Charles OLIVERA. I'm not buying that 275 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: he's super diminished. I don't really think that's true. In fact, 276 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: I think if you look at some of the mistakes 277 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: he made against Islam, he's ironed out some of those 278 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: things where he would leave his feet, for example, to 279 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: kick does when we do that is the same as much. 280 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: But what I do think is true is that people 281 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: have gotten better at fighting him. People understand how to 282 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: diffuse the bomb a little bit. 283 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of tape on him. There's a lot 284 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: of tape. 285 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: Okay, is it that or is it that creating chaos 286 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: against brawlers who prefer that Gai Chee Chandler poorier. You're 287 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: giving them the bait that they want. They'll get into 288 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: a reckless fight, and it turns out Charles swims better 289 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: in the deeper than anybody else. When she gets reckless. 290 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: Is not going to fall for that. He might. I mean, 291 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: he's not gonna get succumbed by that pressure. 292 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: I don't, Yes, I don't think he'll get pulled into 293 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 4: a firefight where he's just trading, at least not for 294 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: very long. But to answer the central question to me, 295 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen a ton of diminishing from 296 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: ol Lavera. I've just seen the rest of the field 297 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: kind of figure out, like I think the star you 298 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: can fight to me, which by the way, I had 299 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 4: all of winning that one up and. 300 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: Two deep joke attempts, including at the buzzer around that. 301 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: But I mean that's why, I mean it was close. 302 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: Something wrong. It's close, like that's not some robbery. But 303 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: I did think he edged it out. 304 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: But the point I'm trying to make is so you 305 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: can was still able to have effective ground and pound 306 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: on him from within the guard and by itself, that's 307 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: actually a little bit of a minor miracle. He avoided 308 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: significant backtaking. Like he he showed that there are ways 309 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: in which you can fight this guy. However, as we know, 310 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: Olivier can fight at different ranges in different phases. To me, 311 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: that height differential, that size differential, maybe maybe for example, 312 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: now to Poria can handle the ground because he can 313 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: follow the blueprint to an extent of what's you can do. 314 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: At the same time, though, can he follow the same 315 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: blueprint in the clinch that Islam used. I have more 316 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: doubts about that kind of a thing. So to me, 317 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: it's a you know, net net is it a is 318 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: it a tailor made fight for for to Poria, I 319 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: think he has some advantages. 320 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: I would not call it tailor made though. The thing is, 321 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: though he's saying he is poised, like I know you're saying, 322 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: like will you be drawn into some kind of chaotic moment? 323 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: And my my indication would be like and nah, probably 324 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: not not based on what we've seen. Like he's a 325 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: very measured guy in terms of how it goes about it. 326 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: But if you look. You mentioned the Jai Herbert fight 327 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and his last time he was at one fifty five. 328 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: He gets clocked like pretty early with a shin to 329 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the chin basically, and he goes down and he comes 330 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: back up and what's his first instinct? It was to 331 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: wing like he started coming after him and eventually he 332 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: got him, like he got him I think in the 333 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: second round. But he you wonder what happens if he 334 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: just gets clipped early. Does he then throw it all 335 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: out and say like, let's do this, you know? Or 336 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: how's that going to work? There's some elements to this 337 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: that you're not sure with him? 338 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you? 339 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: Guys? 340 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: Don fear at all about the idea of power carrying 341 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: up because to Pory has been saying, look, I was 342 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: really diminishing my body to make the way. He's like, 343 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: I could have made it again, but it's not healthy. 344 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to. He's already talking about the benefits 345 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: of moving up. But people have followed McGregor closely. His 346 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: power was unreal at forty five. Did it change significantly 347 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: at fifty five? You know what I'm saying? Like, did 348 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: he he couldn't put away with that one shot? How 349 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: do you exped But some people doesn't like in a 350 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: way in boxing, it doesn't matter the division because the speed, 351 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: the precision, the natural power. Do you expect Topouria at 352 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: this weight class to be a constant one punch knockout threat? 353 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I think I do. I understand some of 354 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: the arguments made about like well what about Connor. Connor 355 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: benefited from a lot he did have blinding power at 356 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: forty five. At fifty five, I don't know if he 357 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: had the same blinding power, but against like Idi Aalvaris, 358 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: for example, what else do you notice the timing. 359 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: The precision, It's insane. 360 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: It just elevates the power because it was so good 361 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: you know, to me, like you already saw me to 362 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: get to jih Herbert look like he fucking cut him 363 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: in half the way he hit him. But more to 364 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: the point, even it's at forty five, dude, if you 365 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: can put Max Holloway's lights out at forty five, yeah, there, 366 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: it's very difficult for me to believe that you won't 367 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: translate up ten pounds and a guy like Olivera, who 368 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: OLIVERA has much better bearing than he once did but 369 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: still gets with very big shots, Like even if the 370 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: power isn't the same at forty five, do I think 371 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 4: it's going to be enough to give him some serious problems? 372 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you do you even put in the same 373 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: conversation like Alex Pereira, like making that move from one 374 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: to eighty five to two of five, because I mean, 375 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: if you if you look at that, for instance, it 376 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: seemed like he was carrying more. 377 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: Power when he went up got more explosive. 378 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm but I'm like, there are examples of guys 379 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 4: who move up and wait and they look like they 380 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: their power moves with them. Went to the seventy because 381 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: everyone's like, what about the next drip champion? That's a 382 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: big question. Yeah, I'd have questions about it. 383 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: He said he expects to fight that one after the rehydration. 384 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: He's a big dude. 385 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I understand it, But I'm saying, like 386 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: if he actually went and fought real welterweights, I don't 387 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: I would have real questions about his power there. 388 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: Chuck, the history of this segment pregame preview, with all 389 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: that male talk and all that stuff like that, it's 390 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: developed a lot of famous moments, usually the ones that 391 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: you'd like to forget, like what now, bitch or Luke 392 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: thrown up in the sink after that episode. 393 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: But the greatest, the greatest, most. 394 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: Salient thought that ever came out of this show's history 395 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: was and you had the guts ahead of Otasyna versus 396 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: Poeton to be like maybe it was Poton, but he 397 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: says that shit. So I got to ask every day, 398 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: So I got to ask you I'm already booking the 399 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: future of not just Ilia winning this fight by knockout, 400 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: you know, because I think that's going to happen, but 401 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: also because I think that would be great for the 402 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: sport and the promotion and then calling out Islam and 403 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: whether they did that fight soon or they built toward 404 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: it for for multi years, like I see a path 405 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: for Taporia to become the biggest fighter in this entire sport. 406 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: What are we not saying about the Olavera story, because 407 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: at thirty five, we never you know, look, we always 408 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: thought he was dangerous, We respect him as a fighter. 409 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: I never thought he'd be champion. So when he went 410 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: on the rock, he went on and beat the names 411 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: that he did and just swam in the chaos that 412 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: he created. It was remarkable. But to have reigns and 413 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: to go through a guy like Topooria with this momentum here, well, 414 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean we're talking like, uh up, not maybe top 415 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: tier but upper tier guy. 416 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: Is there even a you're bringing up a great point? 417 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Is there even an equivalent? Like anybody you can even 418 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: think of that has done that? 419 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: That's type. 420 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like you could come like Michael 421 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: Bisbing would almost be closer just for breaking through at 422 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the end. But he's already been there at Charles Oliver. 423 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: But if you look at the scope of his career, 424 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: missing weight all those times early on, kind of taking 425 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: some bad losses along the way. 426 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: They did your dirty on the yellow. 427 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh here we go again. 428 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: No, I just want you to know, Okay, silently no, 429 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: very vocal, very vocally demby. But I think that that's 430 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: a great discussion because, uh, where does that leave him? 431 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: I was talking about this recently. We're so close to 432 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: like you followed the sports since he's been in the league, 433 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: You've probably followed the sports since been around that time. 434 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: It's like he's been through so much. He started from 435 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: a place where it wasn't like we never saw a 436 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: star coming. He emerged as a star, so we kind 437 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: of see him still Charles Oliver, the guy as a 438 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: whole first team. 439 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 2: But some people are correct. 440 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bronx, the Bronx, No, his name is du 441 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: Bronx from the But you you wonder if the broader 442 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: where I have a son who's fourteen and him and 443 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: his buddies know Charles Oliver. 444 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: That's a weird gauge. But when they talk about fighters. 445 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: There's only a few of them that they'll collective talk 446 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: that's one of them. Maybe he's bigger than I understand 447 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: to the broader audience. I don't really know, but I 448 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: feel like guys who dialed in, it's it's kind of 449 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: remarkable in its own way, but we never see him 450 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: as a star. 451 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: But something like this, when he says broader audience, you 452 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: think he's talking about. 453 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Chicks, chicks, kids, people don't watch the sport. 454 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: One makes a good point. This guy's in this fight 455 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: over Sarruki, and because of that fact, because he moves product, 456 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: people love him. He's one of he gets the one 457 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: of the biggest pops. Like. 458 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: It's bizarre though, right Like, I feel like if he did. 459 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: This, not only is nobody really plotting a path for 460 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: victory in this fight, I don't think anyone's talking about 461 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: what that would do to him. 462 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: To add on, I thought about it a little bit. 463 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: I mean, someone asked me a question if you had 464 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: to have and it's gonna sound like a weird compliment, 465 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: but just follow me for a moment. 466 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Someone was asking me, if you had to. 467 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: Have a a tournament of all lightweights in their prime, 468 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: who would be in the final four, and the answer 469 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: is clearly Habib Islam and BJ Penn. But that fourth 470 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: slot is actually a little hard to tell. It's really 471 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 4: not clear. But you could put McGregor in there. Potentially, 472 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: you could put you know a lot of well, I'm 473 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: just saying like in his prime, in his in his prime, 474 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: at his peak, could you see a world where he 475 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: could have been in there shore But to me, it's 476 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: like Olavera's kind of hang on the outside to lose 477 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: the title, as you indicated, to come back and then 478 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: to beat like the next big superstar presumed next big superstar. 479 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it would put him clearly in that kind 480 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: of space. It would make, it would solidify him as like, 481 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: you know, one of these enduring champions with an enduring 482 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: lightweight legacy against. 483 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: And again none of those guys. 484 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 4: Penn had ups and downs kind of but it was 485 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: like a different higher weight classes. It was actually when 486 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: he dialed in, everything kind of came together. But he 487 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: had all this ability and he had beaten he was 488 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: he was a one to seventy chap. 489 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Before he was a fifty five. 490 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: Cham Olavera had all these fuck ups at forty five 491 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 4: and then steps up to fifty five and then discovers himself. 492 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: His path to being in that place would be the 493 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 4: most unusual on all of them, I. 494 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Ask you, guys, or not as unusual as Juliana Panya, 495 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying. 496 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: For the lightweights the sides. If like UFC kind of 497 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: has to want to pour you here, right because you 498 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: would now have a potential back. 499 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: It's like, because we're talking about OLIVERA and we're talking 500 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: about like, well, that would be really interesting for those guys, 501 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: you know, but that's so small compared to what he represents, 502 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: especially in terms of a broadcast, you know, the whole 503 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: broadcast deal. 504 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Things being worked out. They give be a star, right, 505 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: They need these guys to be They need some guys 506 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: who are gonna be like that click in. 507 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: This topic McGregor not walking through that door. John Jones 508 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 2: retired on O'Malley has lost twice in a row to 509 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: the same guy. I know that there's potential for someone 510 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: like DDP to continue to climb, but out of Sonya 511 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: going down, like all the people that we relied upon, 512 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: this is the star we need in this exact moment. 513 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: That's gotta be a high, a high ranking narration heading 514 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: into this. 515 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: Card, What do you think about that? And he's English 516 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: speaking too, yeah, I mean and Spanish and yeah again, 517 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about that. 518 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the North American market, which obviously has 519 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: some spanis speaking audience. But I mean somebody who he's 520 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: not American, but he can at least, you know, Josialda 521 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: was to a degree held back in his career by 522 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: his lack of language proficiency. To a degree Anderson Silva was, 523 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: but he picked up English late and I do think 524 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 4: that made a difference towards the end. 525 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: It does. I don't. 526 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: I'm not one of these guys, is like they got 527 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: to speak Anglish. No, but if they do, some benefits 528 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: are conferred. But there's simply no denying. Do the UFC 529 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: absolutely what's a engauge? 530 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: You know? But whenever you see Taporia is actually speaking 531 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: in public or he's doing an interview, there's something that happens, right, 532 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, what's he saying? What is that? That's 533 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: always a weird thing. Like there are tons of guys 534 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: who are, you know, very good fighters. They'll do interviews 535 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: you don't even pay any attention, But like, somehow he 536 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: compels it. It might even be the scarcity. He doesn't 537 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: do a. 538 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: Lot of media well in the States. In the States 539 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: and in Spain he has a press conference. 540 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: They say that the promotion that he now runs, wow, 541 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: or whatever, he gave his own promotion. I'm sorry, he 542 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: gave his own press at the damn p I recently 543 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: that you know. 544 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: The other part like to pour. 545 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: With any everything he does where he remember he changed 546 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 4: that he was on his UFC Sorry it is on 547 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: his Instagram by are now taking a picture with the 548 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 4: two two belts, or or he always assumes that I'm 549 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: going to act like a superstar. 550 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to name myself the huge right he I'm 551 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna have step He sees the rank and file have 552 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: their own press day. I have my own press day. 553 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like he leans understated though 554 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: and how he talks, but it's in his actions that 555 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: feed this meeting. 556 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: This is what I mean. Like he's got all of 557 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: the making. He has to cross the finish line. But 558 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: if you're the UFC, you're looking at this and you're thinking, 559 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 4: not only does he believe it, he's acting like it. 560 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: We just have to get him over that hump. It's 561 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: a big hump, but I can see why they. 562 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: Would meets both Briteria. He's legitimately famous and dangerous, and 563 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: as we mentioned, it might be the perfect type of 564 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: setup for Topori to do exactly what he does and 565 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: look as great as possible. But it didn't have to 566 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: be Olivera. You could argue it should have been armand Sarukian, 567 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: who did defeat by split decision Charles Olivera when they met, 568 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: but then had to pull out of his title opportunity 569 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: against Islam Mahachev at the last minute. Didn't seem to 570 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: make Dana White very happy with that. So Saryukian's going 571 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: to be the backup for this main event. But there's 572 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: been some back and forth, in fact, so much so 573 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: that it's time to welcome in a little bit of 574 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: shots fire, question Shots fired, of course, presented by Quervo, 575 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 2: And now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that 576 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: invented tequila. Yeah, I'm talking about Quervo. Here is armand 577 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: Sariuki and the response. Sorry, first see the response I 578 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: believe from Toporio. Let's get into this here. The backup 579 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: fighter for this one is going to San right or 580 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: that's a. 581 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 5: Bad decision for him. I don't know why he accepted, 582 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: because you can't come here as a backup fighter. I 583 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: don't know how long did did he train for this fight. 584 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 5: But if something happened to to anyone, even even to me, 585 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: I think that there's no possibility that something could happen 586 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 5: with me. But who knows. No one knows what's going 587 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 5: to happen tomorrow. Even with Charles, he was struggle a lot, 588 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 5: and with me, there's like he has no chances, no chances, 589 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 5: like first round, first minutes of the fight. What he's 590 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 5: gonna do, go for the takedowns. 591 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: It's it's okay, that's so. That was the videos. 592 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Fucking confidence, That's what I mean. 593 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: It's here's more ruthless Spanish. By the way, when they 594 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: show that it's even it's as cold as that is. 595 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: It's much hard. Sorry. You can response on the code 596 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: tweet is you better pray nothing happens to Charles because 597 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm the worst possible matchup for you in this division. 598 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: There's a reason you're fighting the guy already beat and 599 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: not me. For that bell, He's not wrong, Chicken of 600 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: the egg. There was it that tweet that set up 601 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: those comments from Taporio. 602 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: We have no no no. I think the sour Yukin 603 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: comments came after. 604 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: Okay, well that was shots filed this week, brought to 605 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: you by Cuervo. I was still surprised to see Toporia 606 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: as a pretty damn big favorite. In fact, Long Island 607 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: Luke are our fourth member of our teams. They our producer, 608 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: director and long enthusiasts soon to be single Wow Long 609 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: could you tell us the DraftKings odds currently on this 610 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: man evment. 611 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: We got minus four fifty five il plus three fifty Charles. 612 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: Okay, it seems excess. 613 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: It seems excessing. What would it have been though, if 614 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: it was Tarukian against. 615 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: It's in the hundreds because he is that, Like, what 616 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: would it be? 617 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still favor Ilia, but it would be close 618 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: minus one fifty. 619 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's great, is it? People are like, well, 620 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: the UFC is just feed them a guy they think 621 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: he can beat. They're already setting the table for the 622 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: most dangerous guy. He's not afraid of him, like they're 623 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: already setting it up. It's it's one of those things 624 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: like if he does get through Charles, you now you're 625 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna have now you're gonna find out, right, I feel 626 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: like that. That's fun to me. 627 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 4: It's like when we get to these like because everyone's 628 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: accused Islam of ducking and you know, all this kind 629 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: of shit. To me, I'm just gonna I want to 630 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 4: say I want to say it for this purpose of 631 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: the show. Everyone's got a slightly definition, slightly different definition 632 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 4: of ducking. But to me, if if you're Canelo and 633 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 4: you skip out on David Benavidez to go fight Bival, 634 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: I will I will let that go. That to me, 635 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: that's not ducking because yeah, you're not fighting the guy 636 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: you're supposed to be fighting, but you're fighting fucking beast. 637 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: So I just want to put it out here for 638 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: people to be like, oh, this guy, this guy, this guy. No, 639 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 4: if Islam is going up a fucking weight class to 640 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: fight the champion, I'm gonna let it slip. 641 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you ultimately on that. But 642 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: you're right if Jporia does do this, if a first 643 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: title defense comes, good, sorry, you can do that central billing. 644 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: That's a sexy ass fight, that's a dangerous fight. 645 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: And a champion, fantastic or guy in his position is 646 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: to just treat all everybody like they're the ones trying 647 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: to catch you already, right, and you just treat them 648 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: all the same with equal disregard. I think when they 649 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: do that silver here, I know I love that though, 650 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: there's something that's just like you guys are all coming 651 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: from me. I'll fight all of you. I love that, 652 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: you know I do. I do too. 653 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: But here's the deal. To Poria likes to call a shot. 654 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: He likes to He's kind of following a Connor playbook, 655 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: maybe not as directly as shamelessly as Ian Gary does sometimes, 656 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: which is more for him like tribute to Connor, but 657 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: like he's followed from the chess tat to the ways 658 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: that he moves. He's claiming he's I believe he's gonna 659 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: call out Islam if he wins. But he's claiming that 660 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: he would prefer we played the sound on the last episode. 661 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: He would prefer Paddy next, but he needs Patty to 662 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: go through Justin Gaetchee first, and his goal would be 663 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: going to go from Paddy and then directly to welterweight 664 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: if Islam wins the championship and make that. 665 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Fight also Getchi doesn't want that fight, do. 666 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: You think that if Taporia wins, the UFC would give 667 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: him that Patty fight, knowing that's the perfect time to 668 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: get the most out of Patty's commercial value. 669 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: You I've been saying they should do this anyway, because 670 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this makes more sense. But like Patty has 671 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: put together the resume. We used to scoff at this. 672 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: I remember you. You were the one who was like, 673 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: if they put these guys together, yeah, we're gonna have 674 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: to have like some you know, I was several years ago. 675 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know at the time it 676 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: was very true. He has actually held his own and 677 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: gotten through the guys, and so I'm like, at this point, 678 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, make that fight. First of all, I 679 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: think that Paddy Pimblet would bring like you always kind 680 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: of need a foil. Who's going to bring out something 681 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: more from that from that guy that's still somewhat mysterious. 682 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: I feel like that happens. 683 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: That's pro wrestling booking. But like and sorry, you can's 684 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: got to wait and fight somebody else. Like it's good. 685 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't seem like they're in a hurry to somebody. 686 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: Should get special booking. I agree it should be somebody, 687 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: Like if he. 688 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Does this or you should be next? 689 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: But does he do it? Let's let's let's get as 690 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: as we prepare our predictions here, can we get into 691 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: this a little bit more? Can we get a little 692 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: deeper in the into the cuervo here? This one would 693 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: be called the crystalline know the quer vout tradition on now. 694 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: I think that translates directly in space. 695 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Second half of these shows is always a blur to. 696 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: Large bald But this is this is great, Chuck. I 697 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: would love to start with you as the visitor. You know, 698 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: but this is your home away from home in a 699 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: lot of ways. 700 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: He doesn't know how to pour a shot. It blows 701 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 4: my mind. 702 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, at least at least I drink them. And 703 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: so h dude, you're a bitch. 704 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: No one thinks you're cool for drinking. I will take 705 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: some of that. 706 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, how's your mountain going over there? 707 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I like to drink refined cocktails. 708 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: Remember the last episode he took like like a little nibble. 709 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, my stomach hurts. 710 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: And we're done with that blood? Is that all right? 711 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: I wanted an entertainment partner. Luckily, you guys wanted to 712 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: know Luckily, bron I always miss like. 713 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: The ones when you're shitting blood and things like that, 714 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: So I am you miss that? It's every other week. 715 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: I did see him puke in the sink. Let's start 716 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: with you. 717 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: How does this main event end on Saturday? What are 718 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: we looking at here? 719 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that I think that Worria catches him early 720 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: and that's going to be a quick fight. That's the 721 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: way I see this happening. I just think that he's 722 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: the type of guy who you put the spotlight on 723 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: him in the big moment. I think that he shines. 724 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: I think he goes in there, he catches him, like basically, 725 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: he thinks that Charles is gonna come out him. He 726 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: knows exactly what's gonna happen. He catches him. It's an 727 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: somewhere in the first round knockout. 728 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: On you, crazy Diamond. You know you know what it 729 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: makes me want to do it? It makes me want to 730 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: get serious for a second ago. 731 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 6: You now, baby, can you believe believe these. 732 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: Two fucking bos we're gonna have a friendship moment here? 733 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: They want other people about masculinity's unbelievable right to give. 734 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 5: You. 735 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: That's the band that takes her and blowing each other 736 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 4: on stage after their shows. 737 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: Kyle Barrajoy Corporal, come on, let's go, let's go baby. 738 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I like how you went from Kyle Bihalio to Laverne 739 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: in Shirley. 740 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: That was they watched you four more out on the 741 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: floor and you fucking this carpet is stick. 742 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about one. They tell you what the. 743 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: Who gave me a little work flair? If you know, 744 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: have to ship my pants now? 745 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: If there is something you didn't bring up that actually 746 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 4: would like to have a bit of a discussion because 747 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 4: I looked into this and I don't know what the 748 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: answer is, but I'll be curious to get your thoughts. 749 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: You too long, isid? Look here? In just a second, 750 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: someone has. 751 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: Brought up I've seen a lot of people have brought 752 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 4: it up on social media that hey, if Ilia wins, 753 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 4: particularly by stoppage, is that the best three fight win 754 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: streak said that to Mike Bone. 755 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: He's not the only so I've looked. 756 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: I looked at like all the greats records, it might be. 757 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: Okay, three fight Vulk was the champion in pun pound top. 758 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: And has never lost. 759 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: No he had lost to at that Wait, so I'm 760 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: saying I think his pound for pound spot slipped a little, 761 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: but still like top three. Holloway was top ten at 762 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: that point, and now you've got Olvera, who it is 763 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: dangerous as ship. Well, we've all compared to the calendar twers, 764 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: but any three fights in succession we're talking about. 765 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: Yes, So I looked at Fador's record. 766 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: Fador's got a bunch of good twos and then like 767 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: some scrub uh Demetrius. I don't think has anyone on 768 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: enough on the level. Saint Pierre had a couple of 769 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 4: good twos, but not. 770 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: So much threes. 771 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: But the reason why this is John Jones is the 772 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: closest to me because John Jones. 773 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: Has fourign or what about Anderson, I've just I know 774 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: that I. 775 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 4: Didn't see anything that Again, there's he has a couple 776 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: of you can kind of remember all the fights, and 777 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 4: you know, John Jones is interesting because he has I 778 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 4: think Rampage and Evans and Machida and like another one. 779 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 4: He is like four in a row where they were 780 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 4: all former. 781 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: Chap calendar year that two thousand. 782 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: He won four in a year and he beat all 783 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: former champions. The point I wanted to make was to 784 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: Poria is now going up and wait, I can't find 785 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: anybody who polished off two former champions then went up 786 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 4: a weight and then the. 787 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: Four. You can literally it sounds like perbole. It genuinely 788 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: might be the guys like you think about b J 789 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: Penn and what you see ninety four winning went up 790 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: and fought GSP and he might have been able to. 791 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly where he was at, but he'd 792 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: just taken out was that right before that? Anyway he 793 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: would he was winning his fights. He went up and 794 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: fought GSP, but then he gets handled there, right, But 795 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: that would have been the moment you might have had 796 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: a competition there. Yeah, but he didn't get it done. 797 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: Fororier stopping Justin Gaichee, then Eddie Alvarez and then beating 798 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: Max Holloway for the interim title UFC two thirty. 799 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: I mean that's close, but that's not as good, okay. 800 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: Or Pour out lasting Hooker and then's Connor. 801 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Toys there we go. 802 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: Not as good, but an honorable mention. What about Connor's run? 803 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 3: You got Chad Mendez, Jose Aldo, Eddie Alvarez, No, No, no, that's. 804 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 2: Not in succession, dude. 805 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: The ones in between. That's the issue. Yeah, yeah, that's 806 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: the issue. Yeah, I mean yes, if it was those 807 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: three they were. 808 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 2: I mean, look, when you get when Max Holloway has 809 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: back to back stoppages of Jose Aldough, I'm sure we 810 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 2: can book in to either other win Habiba. His last 811 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: three was against two, right, he. 812 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 4: Never had Yeah, but again up and weight, sure, up 813 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 4: and weight. That's the that's your difference for me is 814 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 4: the up and weight. 815 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: To Pouria second round stoppage. 816 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm thinking fourth. Actually, yeah, I think it was one. 817 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: My goal a little bit. 818 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: The over under is at two and a half, I think, 819 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: is that right? I'm sorry, I think under under that 820 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: dude under? 821 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'll take the over. I think that. 822 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: I think Taporia does finish him off. But Charles is 823 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 4: crafty and. 824 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't move his head enough. 825 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: Luke, you know that he doesn't, but he has successful 826 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: a reason. 827 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into this co main event. The 828 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: flyweight title will be at stake, and what a run. 829 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: Alexandre Pantosia has put together three title defenses, and even 830 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 2: though shoes, he went life and death with Brandon Moreno 831 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: to win the title, and that blood and guts war 832 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: with the incredible deep father comments afterwards he has been 833 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: efficient since then, getting better climbing the pomp for pound ringks, 834 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: getting in the best shape of his life, and seeming 835 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: as in his mid thirties, smart and dangerous as we've 836 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: ever seen him in his entire career. He is entering 837 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: against a Kai car France, and remember Etoji's record against 838 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: the top ten entering this calendar year was nine to 839 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: zero combined, so they need another opponent. Kai Carra, though, 840 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 2: has lost two of his last three, despite his most 841 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: recent fight, which was a first round stoppage of Steve Ersag. 842 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: What are we looking at here, Luke Thomas, in terms 843 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: of the biggest thing to look for, the biggest storyline, 844 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: the biggest element when Alexandre Pantojia welcomes Kai. 845 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 4: Carr Franz man, First of all, he didn't even mention 846 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: the fact that, in addition to the losses, he had 847 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 4: a real bad concussion. Yeah, that sat him out for 848 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 4: a fairly long period of time. In fact, he missed. 849 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: This should have happened maybe a little bit sooner than 850 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 4: it did. I think Car Carr Franz I like this fight. 851 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 4: I think you know, if you're the champion, you have 852 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 4: to defend against the deserving guys. 853 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: He's a deserving guy. 854 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 4: But more than that, he has an interesting challenge. There's 855 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: a ton of tape on Pantojia at this point, which 856 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 4: I'm you know, you got a guy who trained at CKB. 857 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 4: They're going to have him probably well prepared. Dude, fucking 858 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 4: Pantojia has just absolutely blown past every limit any one 859 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 4: of us has to put one on him. 860 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 2: He's like secretly entering all time great British not British, 861 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: Brazilian pantheon MMA like champion level. 862 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 4: Like he's getting. He's getting, dude. First of all, shouts 863 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 4: to Venom. I haven't loved all of the custom fight shorts, 864 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 4: but they made custom fight schworts for him. Number one, 865 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 4: he deserves it. Number two, they're fucking great. Didn't see 866 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 4: him no, so they took basically Japanese traditional tattoo styling 867 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: and made it basically shorts. 868 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: It's fucking awesome. Number one. Number two. 869 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 4: I keep thinking this dude is shop worn, and I 870 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 4: keep waiting for him to fall off and just collapse 871 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 4: like a Jaloppi and some you know, in some middle 872 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 4: of the road nowhere. 873 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: He got better he got, he got better. 874 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 4: He can strike, He's not i mean not afraid of 875 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 4: danger even a little bit. His game from the back 876 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: is actually super advanced that Kesoto Hook used to pull 877 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 4: kioskerl off and then take the back of vision and 878 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 4: sud Dude, he's at the point now is he close 879 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 4: to what DJ did? 880 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: No? 881 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 4: But that we even have to ask that, Yeah, is 882 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 4: fucking remarkable. 883 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: Dide you see similarities, Like it's crazy what you're saying, 884 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: and almost it almost parallels the guy that people want 885 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 1: to pair him with, which is Morob, right, yeah, because 886 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: Morob lost early, Yes, but then Morob started to like 887 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: just build his the machine thing. And if you watch 888 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: him fight his pace, the pace he starts to put on, 889 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: and it's not just that's the level changing. It's like 890 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: he comes up here and then he's on your legs, 891 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: he's on your hips, he's trying to put you down, 892 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: or he does the thing you're mentioning in the back 893 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: we get your back. 894 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 4: He's on little party where it's like that little that 895 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 4: little ex hell he's in there tucking one in your ribs, 896 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 4: or he's coming you know what I mean, Like he's 897 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 4: just always always brings He's a definition. 898 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 2: Of that term they use in boxing, or that phrase 899 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: that that when you become champion, you become thirty percent 900 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: better automatically. 901 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: He's like he might be. He's got something deeper going on. 902 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: He is, he's rabby. It's like he advanced a level 903 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: within himself. I don't know what it is. You remember 904 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: the dad dad thing, but I feel like that something 905 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: came off of his chest and now he's like it's realized. 906 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: Like you said, as talk about who realizing their potential, this 907 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: is a guy who's realized his potential in real time. 908 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: Dude, I love it. And maybe I'm going too far 909 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: with this, but if they let mister Wideman come to 910 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 2: every Pantosia fight, so after he wins, he could be 911 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: like Alexandre Pantosia would still be my son, you know, 912 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 2: the kind of all right, So it is interesting this 913 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: week you mentioned. 914 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: I think it's your no cell that makes me laugh. 915 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: Heytosha did say this week he has imagined he is 916 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: not looking to move on. He does not want to 917 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: do the two division champion thing, which is kind of 918 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: refreshing to hear because everybody seems to want to do 919 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 2: it instantly. He mentioned that, you know, the the Josh 920 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: Van Reval winner. Obviously, menel cop still out there. There's 921 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: a few fights you can make. Bring back Mohaive, bring back. 922 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: Yeah Chuck. 923 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: Here's the deal though, these two did fight way back 924 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: in the day and the Ultimate Fighter Kaikar France lost 925 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: a decision through two rounds. But when you package that 926 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: with the reality that Kaikr France has been stopped by 927 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 2: both Elite Brandons, when he's moved up to that level 928 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 2: Moreno and and he has two losses to Moreno, does 929 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: this tell you the outcome without telling you were. 930 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Kind of because I feel like with kay Car France, 931 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: what's his don't blink? Is that his uh? His? 932 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: I know about him. 933 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: He's just this yeah right, I mean, and he has 934 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: We saw him the Garbrant fire. I remember very specifically. 935 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: He looked like a maestro on the feet, you know, 936 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: like he can do this stuff. But I just don't 937 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: think having a game where you're like, I'm gonna try 938 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: to melt you at some point in this fight, is 939 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: is going to get it done? You know what do 940 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: we got? Now? It's not shocking, It's not like the 941 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: mid teens. 942 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 7: Uh, just compare that common to what Bronsa told you 943 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 7: he was a varsity star and you were like, no, 944 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 7: you weren't. 945 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: Like, dude, I went to public high school in America. 946 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 4: There's no way you played. Its not possible. 947 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: So uh Osa crou is that the guy, the last 948 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: guy like Osacra, Like he came in there was do 949 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: all kinds of speeding and all kinds of fancy knees, 950 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: flying knees, knees oller it just like you're you're coming 951 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: in there with like an esthetic or you're coming in 952 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: there with this kind of idea, and he goes right 953 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: through it. That's what I see. I guess izz is 954 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: he's a buzzsaw. 955 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 2: But so long Island. Look you are an intentive better. 956 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 2: I feel like Pantoja by Stoppage is the bet that 957 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: everybody's going to end up on if you're looking for 958 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 2: a little bit of value. Are we counting out KKF 959 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: too easily? Too flippantly here? 960 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 3: I think you're counting out KKF. I don't know if 961 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 3: he's gonna win. I do see this one going a 962 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,479 Speaker 3: little long. I took the over one and a half 963 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 3: in a parlay, but honestly, prediction wise, KKF round four, Wow, that's. 964 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: A bold prediction. 965 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 4: I mean, on the one hand, I don't think that 966 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 4: that's crazy because we keep remarking like how great Pantoja 967 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 4: does and he does. 968 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: Will end well. So he's fucking reckless. 969 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 4: Like in any other division, if you fight that way, 970 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 4: for the most part, you get wrecked. 971 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: That's true. That's trye. I mentioned the flying knee. The 972 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: first flying knee was this close. Yes, it was this 973 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: close to being an ask situation. 974 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 4: I can imagine him, and I'm not in any way 975 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 4: try to undermine like the spirit of what Long Island 976 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: Lucas saying. But I could imagine a world war. In fact, 977 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 4: KKF does stop him, they do a rematch and Panoji 978 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 4: gets it right back. But like just the point I'm 979 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 4: trying to make is you fight in a reckless manner 980 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 4: in that way, or just even reckless per se, just 981 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 4: aggressively fucking feral in the way that he is. You're 982 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 4: running risk there against the guys that you otherwise might be. 983 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: I feel like Mom got accused of that a little 984 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: bit too, Like it was like he was coming and 985 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: that he would get hit. You know, his defense so 986 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: much better, you know. 987 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: Dude, I think panto is going to try to make 988 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: a statement on the feet too. I think he's going 989 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 2: to try to stop him punching here. 990 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: I love moreno stopped k on the feet. 991 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: I think that's what happens here. And I respect KKF 992 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: and I've been wanting him to finally get his opportunity 993 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: because I felt he has been title material from the 994 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 2: beginning coming out of C K B. Would he has 995 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: had a certain amount of hiccups that tell you is 996 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: his record who he says he is Bill Parcells? Or 997 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: is would you you wouldn't? Would yes or no? Would 998 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 2: you be shocked if he walked out with the title 999 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: not shockedcked? She takes a lot to shock you. 1000 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: No, I mean he just he does have I think 1001 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, he had the Garb Brant and who wilse 1002 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: he smoke the right one of them, Like he's beat 1003 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: a couple of guys, and he's definitely got that kind 1004 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: of power. Like so if if it's a reckless thing, 1005 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: it could happen. But I'd be slightly surprised, you know, 1006 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: because I think that it's like it's like when I 1007 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: used to talk to Ben Asker and when he was 1008 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: saying he was like if I fight that guy. Ninety 1009 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: nine times out of one hundred, I'm beating him. He 1010 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: caught me on the one. Masvidal, He's like, I'm beating 1011 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: him ninety nine times one hundred. He just happened to 1012 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: land the one thing boom. 1013 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 4: I was going, that's not crazy when we talked about this, 1014 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 4: when Sarah beat GSP, I mean that can happen, you know, But. 1015 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: Is that true about his lung transplant? You know? Man, 1016 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: I I haven't been in complete touch with him, but 1017 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: trying to stay in touch with him, and it's he's 1018 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: waiting for a long transplant. That's the what we know. Yeah, 1019 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a kind of grim situation. So prayers 1020 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: up for that guy. Man life is unpredictable. 1021 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 2: Uh, his family for sure staying in this flyweight division though, 1022 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 2: Damn do I love this fight Joshua van On three 1023 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: weeks notice at age twenty three, twenty four, I mean way, 1024 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: it's so damn early. He's had eight UFC fights in 1025 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 2: less than two years. 1026 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: Phone cover and five. 1027 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a Jimmy he Boldest Love. 1028 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his second album. 1029 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fantastic that it's like my space that watched No, 1030 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: that's off of the greatest rock album Joel three called 1031 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 2: Electrically Joel Double Album. 1032 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: That's Joe's on the debut. Are you experienced? I know 1033 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 1: the song the. 1034 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 2: Second Exell loves his Dylan album. He was very much 1035 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: in all right enough. 1036 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: It's not better than Cannibal Corps is encased in concrete. 1037 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 2: Cannibal Corpse. Yeah, that's fantastic there, Joshua Van. 1038 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: They play at every show. 1039 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 2: The Bermese slugger, fresh off of the stoppage three weeks 1040 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: ago of flyweight Bruno Silva not the blind middleweight because 1041 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: of Wideman. We are looking like a future title contender. 1042 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 2: But he's ranked number twelve and on three weeks notice 1043 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: he's gonna fight yet again against number one raw Dog 1044 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: Brandon Royval the raw Dog friend of the program. 1045 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: I also hate Colorado, friend what I also hate condoms? Yeah? 1046 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,959 Speaker 1: Okased it though, but that's all. 1047 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 4: Right, the raw Dog has said this week if someone 1048 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 4: asked me if I thought, what would my nickname be, 1049 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 4: and it's I hate condoms? 1050 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: Well, very similar the your Kindred Spirit look Thomas. 1051 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 2: The raw Dogs waiting to get the Menel Cop fight 1052 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 2: pulled out. Now now Manel Cop broke his foot, so 1053 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: that's what opened the door for Van. But this week 1054 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: raw Dog, very emotional, basically said, look, I'm the most 1055 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 2: underestimated or what would he say? What it's say not 1056 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: not overrated. I'm the most overlooked fighter in the UFC. 1057 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: That the respect factor. He says, he's the underdog in 1058 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 2: every single big fight, including the Tyro fight. He basically 1059 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 2: can't remember the last time he was a betting favorite, 1060 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 2: and against this twenty three year old kid who looks 1061 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: great bounce back from the first round knockout lost to 1062 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: Charles Johnson is four no sense coming off of a 1063 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 2: big stoppage. But they're there's levels to this game. And 1064 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: Brandon Royvill, last time I checked, has only lost in 1065 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: the UFC to Pantosia and Moreno, and he avenged the 1066 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 2: Moreno lost by split decision. I think he learned from 1067 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: the title loss to Pantosia. I think he's coming in 1068 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 2: here at plus money. I agree with him. It's freaking ridiculous, Luke. 1069 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 2: Is it just that Van is that great and Vegas 1070 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,919 Speaker 2: is all in? What are we looking at here? 1071 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a weird one because I like 1072 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 4: Van a lot. I respect him a lot, but I 1073 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 4: I it's not going to afford to take the risk 1074 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 4: he can afford to take whisper yes and no, yes 1075 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 4: and no. 1076 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. 1077 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 4: But on the one hand, it's not fatal if he 1078 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 4: loses in any way, Dude, rand Roival is a fucking 1079 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 4: number one contender. Josh Van is not even supposed to 1080 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 4: be in this fight. He's name is supposed to be 1081 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 4: on this card. He's supposed to be doing something else 1082 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 4: at the apex. I mean, this is this is I'm 1083 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 4: not as an insult, no, developmentally that quick, but but 1084 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 4: you know, the fates are are. 1085 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: Pushing him in this direction. 1086 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 4: I I don't I love the fact that he's getting 1087 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 4: a lot of experience. I don't love the fact that 1088 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 4: he's not taking time to really work on his game. Now, 1089 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 4: a lot of fighters would be like, oh, I would 1090 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 4: love to do what he's doing, in part because you 1091 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 4: just get paychecks more often if you just compete like that. 1092 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 1: And he, for the most part, he fucking won here, Darling, 1093 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: at least for this exactly. 1094 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 4: I love his game, I love his attitude, I love 1095 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 4: his work rate, I love his and he has, by 1096 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 4: the way, showing some obvious improvement just in the short 1097 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 4: amount of time he's been here. But I wouldn't have 1098 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 4: recommended this in a perfect world that he take this fight, 1099 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 4: even if he does win it. I mean that's the 1100 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 4: problem to me, right, It's like, even if you beat 1101 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 4: Roybolle for whatever reason, now you might be the number 1102 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 4: one contender, let me fucking assure you you're definitely not 1103 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 4: ready to be that guy. 1104 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: I remember. It reminds me of when Anthony Joshua and 1105 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 2: boxing stumbled into a title shot that he really wasn't 1106 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: ready for. But there was a week champion and Charles 1107 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 2: Martin as in, like the opportunity afforded itself, and he 1108 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 2: just took it one by a knockout and we're off. 1109 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 2: Sometimes in life you get those opportunities. I'm not really 1110 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: here to debate whether Van should have took it or that, 1111 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: whether you know, I think it's exciting. I think it's 1112 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: exciting tip. 1113 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: To Roy Bowl because like he's accepting sure, the same 1114 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: thing he's accepting an opponent switch right, like to come 1115 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: in there. 1116 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 4: He's desperate to get a title shot though, So I 1117 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 4: don't think there's two ways to play the title shot. 1118 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: Want us to be like, oh, I'm sitting on a 1119 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: title shot. I'm not going to take a. 1120 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 4: Fire and the other the other one not guaranteed that 1121 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 4: shit exactly because theready lost twice I know. So he 1122 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,479 Speaker 4: is in a position like, you know what, I'm gonna 1123 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 4: do whatever the fuck I can to make them happy 1124 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 4: so that I can get back to the top. 1125 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: This would be the best time to fight a Josh 1126 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 2: Van when even though he's been on fire three weeks, 1127 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 2: turn around, he fights all the damn time. He's always 1128 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: in camp and the experienced level. Look, Bruno Silva is 1129 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: a good win and the manner in which he did 1130 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 2: was great. No one on that resume close to Brandon Royval. 1131 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 2: So at thirty two, your fellow Colorodian. 1132 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, that's how he pronounce it. 1133 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,720 Speaker 2: What would you say to those odds makers? 1134 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: I know that I love the Colorado. 1135 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 2: The line has moved a little bit like that. But dude, 1136 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 2: this is a This is a three round fight, correct, 1137 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 2: not a five round fight. 1138 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 1: This is three rounds. 1139 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 2: Okay, you would wonder if a five round could benefit Royval. 1140 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: But as you look at this match up, do you 1141 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,439 Speaker 2: what are you thinking? Because I'm thinking raw. Doug's about 1142 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 2: the show people what's up. 1143 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's a big I think that that's 1144 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: more likely. Like we're just talking about this is a 1145 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: guy who's accelerated, you know, and Joshua Van accelerated because 1146 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: he lost last July, and we were like, wow, he's 1147 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: still very rise twenty two. He's going to have to 1148 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: learn some stuff and he has one fore in a 1149 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: row and I was fighting on three weeks notice or 1150 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: three weeks after fighting. This is a lot. If he 1151 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: goes in there, it would be hard to understate how 1152 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: big of a deal that would be for him to 1153 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: just skyrocket into that shot. 1154 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 7: Now. 1155 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: Would he be ready? Probably not, But I'm just saying 1156 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: that would be a ridiculous trajectory from losing last July 1157 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: to being at the end of June this year as 1158 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: a title consenter. But I'm sort of with you, man, 1159 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 1: I feel like there are these guys and we never 1160 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: see the thing we're talking about with josh Man, we 1161 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: almost never see because there is that guy standing his 1162 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: way who was like chafe the wrong way. He's been mistreated, 1163 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: he feels carries the chip on shoulder, and he is 1164 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: willing to die in this situation. And that's kind of 1165 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: the way I see that Roy I mean, you're seeing. 1166 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 2: A Royvall by submission. I can see it in your eyes. 1167 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: You're seeing that I picked Van. But uh, that's a 1168 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: momentum pick. You know, you're like saying, well, he's got 1169 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: a those moments coming. He's young. But it doesn't matter 1170 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: if you really look at the way the USC plays out. 1171 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: Usually that guy doesn't win this fight. You know, you 1172 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: don't get that sort. 1173 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 2: Usually the short notice turnaround guy doesn't win the fight either, 1174 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 2: and this is extreme short notice turnaround. Lke, what are 1175 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 2: you weigh in on this? You love Van, but I 1176 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 2: mean you've been you even have been underlooking and underrating 1177 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 2: roy Vall at times. Would you please give the man 1178 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: the bouquet and predict him to win here? 1179 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what's the fucking thing, to be 1180 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 4: honest with you, I mean, the reality is, what. 1181 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 1: Are the odds? What are the odds on this one? 1182 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 3: So it's a pick him right now minus one oh 1183 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 3: five minus one fifteen. 1184 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: Points a coin flip guy here. 1185 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think though it's obviously somewhat strucker grappler 1186 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 4: right to a degree, but Royal has been in there 1187 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,919 Speaker 4: slugging it out with guys better than josh Van, way 1188 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 4: more experience. 1189 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 2: His distance management vall and is totally on the elite level. 1190 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it's going to. 1191 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 4: Have a little strong Okay, I think he is. I 1192 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 4: think he is at worst a competent striker, and I 1193 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 4: think more than that, I think he's a good one. 1194 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 2: He moves elite. 1195 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: Is a little is a little much for me. 1196 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: Well okay, I mean he's got elite skills for this division. 1197 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 4: No good, but I think he's elite is He's got 1198 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 4: instant jiu jitsu, right. These guys who can find something 1199 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 4: like that, they've got a good clam. They could be underneath, 1200 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 4: they can invert, they can find the back instantly. He's 1201 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 4: got that and josh Van definitely has never fought a 1202 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 4: guy like that. To me, it's like royal should win. 1203 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 4: I just don't know if he will. 1204 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a weird one for me. It is, 1205 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: especially at twenty three. Guys feel they're invincible, even even 1206 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 1: though he has that loss. You just said, you're twenty three, man, 1207 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: You're like you're ready, you know, you're ready to roll die. 1208 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, at twenty three you're like I know, you 1209 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 4: know what you're like, I'll never be in a car 1210 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 4: act I know, right, Yeah, you're just like you'll never 1211 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 4: get her, Yeah, never get aids. 1212 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 2: Okay, wow, I mean I haven't heard that one. Yeah, 1213 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 2: there you go. 1214 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: He's I just don't believe in a it's not real. 1215 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 2: Also on this main card, kind of a crossroads ish 1216 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: lightweight tilt, but these guys are a lot closer in age, 1217 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 2: even if they're not that close and momentum. When thirty 1218 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 2: six year old Benil deer re Use, fresh off of 1219 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 2: consecutive knockout losses in elite matchups, goes against a thirty 1220 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 2: five year old Hanao Moikano, who had his incredible upset 1221 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 2: fueld run to become the money man spoiled when he 1222 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 2: got the last second title shot against Islam mah Chev 1223 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 2: and was handled in very quick fashion. Looking to come 1224 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 2: back from that, the odds are very close in this one, 1225 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 2: although you have had Moi Kano as the favorite. I 1226 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: think that makes sense. Is this a serious a situation 1227 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 2: where you think Benny can prove that he's still around, 1228 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 2: he still matters here because he seems like a sneaky underdog. 1229 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 2: Payh plus money. 1230 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: And if I think you'd have to look at this, 1231 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: I think that they are both thirty six and born 1232 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: fifteen days apart, Like they've been on the earth exact 1233 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: same amount. Which is crazy is I always look at Drey. 1234 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the gray in his hair and stuff like that, 1235 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: but I always think that, like he's like forty and 1236 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, but I do think again, this is an 1237 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: unsung guy, a guy who's had a crazy career, like 1238 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: a very very successful career. At one point he won 1239 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: like a bunch of fights in row. I don't even 1240 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: know how many it was, but I feel like he 1241 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 1: still has that one left last charge in him where 1242 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: he's like, I want to I want to be able 1243 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: to do this. I don't. I don't scare behind him 1244 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: pretty quick. Yeah, but uh, but should we learn. 1245 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 2: Something from the last two stoppage losses. 1246 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there were big fighters. It's not like he's 1247 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: going against it's not like he's losing the middle of 1248 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: the pack. And I feel like this is his step 1249 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: down moment if he can't get by moy Conor. And 1250 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not trying to diminish Moycano because 1251 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: Mons had a big run too, until he ran into 1252 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 1: he was fighting over his head, right. 1253 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 5: He. 1254 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: Had a brain bleed scare. 1255 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: I don't believe I'm making that up Long Island. Look, 1256 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 2: that's a correct scare that I don't believe that's right. 1257 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 3: I think he might be thinking of Vicente Lucas. 1258 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 1: Oh maybe it's that's why. I was like, he said, 1259 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: I just do that, But I was looking at it 1260 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 1: like you said it, and I was like, I was like, 1261 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: did I not do my homework? 1262 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm not. It's it's probably the tequila here, but apology. 1263 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was one more more reader for you, 1264 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: But you're going to be on the floor. 1265 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: We should have introduced him and looked this up before 1266 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 2: I get sued him misdiagnosing people, All right, Luke, when 1267 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 2: you look at this matchup, is it as simple to 1268 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 2: say that the ground game could cancel each other. 1269 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 4: Outrush is better everywhere, Doryush is better everywhere. 1270 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 1: Now he is. 1271 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 4: Longer in the tooth in the sense of having I 1272 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 4: think more miles on him. I think that's It was 1273 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 4: true that moy Kano took some abuse at forty five 1274 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 4: before he mat real. 1275 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 3: Quick, real quick. His coach said he took a long 1276 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 3: absence due to repeated head trauma. 1277 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: But that's not the same thing as having a brain believe. 1278 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 3: Okay, but I think that's probably all right. 1279 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 2: I apologize if I confuse the LUK diagnosis there, but 1280 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 2: there was question for a while for sure. 1281 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, Yeah, anyway, Darkush is better everywhere. 1282 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: He had bet he remembered before he got an m 1283 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: m A. 1284 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 4: He was a high high level belt in professional jiu jitsu, 1285 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 4: And to me is, you know, has we talk about 1286 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 4: guys who fight recklessly? He's got little of that pantoja 1287 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 4: And when it comes down to strike, he was one 1288 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,439 Speaker 4: of the only guys Dude sar Yukian could not get 1289 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 4: Gamrot off of him when they were hit. Derry Usch 1290 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 4: had no fucking problem with it. Yeah, hand he's a 1291 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 4: physical dude there. Derry Yusch is better everywhere. The question 1292 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 4: is what kind of physical state. 1293 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: Is he in. 1294 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 4: Remember Morkano's shoulder is still a little I. 1295 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 2: Think a guy like Makana who can get hot and 1296 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 2: suddenly he's a title contender, and in this case he 1297 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 2: fought for the title. I always look to see what 1298 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 2: happens next if they get humbled in the loss Cormier 1299 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 2: that type of thing. I was like, Okay, we'll probably 1300 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 2: never see him at this level again, even though he 1301 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 2: did get ultimately get an interim title opportunity. I wonder 1302 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 2: if Moikano's not fighting for I'm sorry, dry use, not 1303 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: fighting for his job per se, but he's fighting to 1304 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 2: protect the elite sort of you know tag that he 1305 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 2: brings in with him. I wonder if it's the right 1306 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 2: motivation at the right time. Is way Connor's going to 1307 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 2: be as fired up now that he has made. 1308 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: That's the thing I wonder too. I mean what you 1309 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: just stated, because he you feel like a guy like 1310 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: ma Conno, like somehow he burst on the scene. He 1311 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: was almost like Masvidal or something like that, where it's 1312 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: like he's been in the league a long time, he's 1313 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: been in m a long time. Nobody's really paying too 1314 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: close of attention until one moment. This guy's kind of 1315 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: a character and he's winning fights and then all of 1316 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: a sudden you see him on his terms. 1317 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 2: It was that he took when he took a beat 1318 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 2: in yeah, but like. 1319 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: And then beating uh s denis right, like the not 1320 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: who he beat like he beat that. It was like 1321 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: he's supposed to get smoke him, Yeah, but he ends 1322 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: up with I mean, these things were like they kind 1323 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: of turned to stand. But you're like, did he blow 1324 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: his wad in this situation? You know? I mean that? 1325 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I'm like that the whole the way 1326 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 1: that played out was that kind of what we get 1327 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: from Wakna, Like that whole situation getting that thing. 1328 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I never again because the motivation. It's 1329 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 2: like Pearl Jim can never write ten over again because 1330 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 2: it's never going to be You're not going to be 1331 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 2: able to do You're not going to have that feeling again. 1332 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Luke. 1333 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: It's another year. I won't listen to that. 1334 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 2: What are you feeling with this? Have you consumed? 1335 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: Don't you? You? 1336 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 5: You? 1337 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: Probably you have pissed yourself at a Rusted Root concert? 1338 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: Who are you? I don't even know who that is. 1339 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: You don't don't, don't, don't be doing. 1340 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 3: I have been to a collective concert nineties. 1341 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 2: He's seen ever player. 1342 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but hold on, did you see collective soul in 1343 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 4: the nineties or did you see collective soul in this. 1344 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: The County for twenty nineteen? Well, I mean, you're just 1345 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: you're just the worst. I mean a casino. 1346 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's where they should be. 1347 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 4: Boikano has an incredible personality. But Boikano has an incredible 1348 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 4: personality and I think is such a very charming character. 1349 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he does have considerable skills too, early. 1350 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 2: Crypto guy too. You gotta give him that. 1351 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's credit or not, but but 1352 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 4: but certainly, you know, he's a very interesting guy as 1353 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 4: a personality. I guess the thing I would say though, 1354 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,439 Speaker 4: is they are usual quiet and you know, he's sort 1355 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 4: of a family guy, and but he is just vastly, 1356 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 4: in my judgment, more skilled. 1357 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: I really believe that much. 1358 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 2: Stronger brand than I've given them credit for. So there 1359 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 2: you go, right there. 1360 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: And it was and it was always at least three 1361 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: fights away from a title shot somehow, even th when 1362 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: he was on like a nine fight win streak. 1363 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, it's plus money. If this fight 1364 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 2: goes the distance I think it does. 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Twenty six year old Payton Talbot 1402 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 2: coming off of his first defeat after three consecutive finishes 1403 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 2: to open his red hot UFC career when he somewhat 1404 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 2: imploded if you will against thirty seven year old veteran 1405 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 2: Hyoni Barcelos, who was already on a run and continued 1406 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 2: it afterwards. Talbot was taken down eight out of fifteen 1407 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 2: times in that fight, and he'll be an underdog because 1408 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 2: Brazil's Felipe Lima can wrestle, and he also won his 1409 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 2: two UFC fights to open his career, although at one 1410 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 2: forty five, so we're back at one thirty five, Chuck. 1411 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 2: The storyline is super prospect Peyton Talbot is it as 1412 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 2: a underdog, but that almost feels like market correction for me, 1413 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 2: considering his size and striking advantage. Is it going to 1414 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 2: come down to whether he might back off the mat. 1415 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 1: There, that's the big question. And he's he's worldly enough 1416 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: and elevated enough to understand. He made jokes like I 1417 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: need to go to Dagistan. I need to learn how 1418 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: to wrestle. He's a smart kid man, and I'm like, 1419 01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 1: I think he has very good acumen to like learn quickly, 1420 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: but wrestling's hard, it's very difficult to do. It'd be 1421 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: very interesting to see if he's been able. And because 1422 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: I think now, if you're you know, if you're the 1423 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: jungle Boy going into this, you're probably thinking, I need 1424 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: to just take this guy down, right, Like at least 1425 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 1: that's going to be in your mind to be able 1426 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: to do this, And I think for Talbot it's kind 1427 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: of one of those Now, you know, if you looked 1428 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: at that as a fraud check, which I think some 1429 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: people did. Just given who he is, this one's now 1430 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: the full truth teller. Like, if he goes in there 1431 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 1: and he lays an egg here, we're gonna be like, wow, 1432 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: why did we ever hype this dude? That's where he's at. 1433 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: But I also think that we could be reminded why 1434 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: we were hyping this dude if he goes in there 1435 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: and he looks like he did in his first couple 1436 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: of fights. 1437 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 2: And now he's rocking with Frank Ocean. He doesn't want 1438 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 2: to talk about. 1439 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: The video though, Yeah, the butt vape. 1440 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this. I'm just trying to 1441 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 2: butt babe the kids are talking about. 1442 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I did a big piece and I met the guy 1443 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: who did the butt vape. It was not him, it 1444 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 1: was his roommate. But anyway, like he still suffers from 1445 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: that whole episode. You know you did a story about 1446 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: the butt vape. Well, I didn't do it as specific 1447 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: did about Peyton, but that became part of the story. 1448 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 4: It was like this, Vava, how did your editor pitch 1449 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 4: you on that we need a story on the button 1450 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 4: butt babe, durable type thing. 1451 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: What are we talking about? 1452 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 2: Uh? 1453 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Not quite like that. 1454 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 2: But anyway, back to what really matters the fights. 1455 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: Luke, like he interrupts you what he doesn't tell when 1456 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: it's your immaturity. He wants to, how do I know 1457 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: about the butt bape story? 1458 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 2: And you don't see and I like to focus more 1459 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 2: on the one one five, you know what I mean? Yeah, 1460 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 2: although I've won twenty five lately on fire. Hey, here's 1461 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 2: what I'm really trying to say, though, Luke, the experts 1462 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 2: are trying to tell you that Felipe a Lima is 1463 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 2: going to be able to control him in wrestling, But 1464 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 2: if you really look at the stats, Talbot has been 1465 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 2: pretty damn good and takedown defense before that Barcelos fight 1466 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 2: against he did stop seven, although he gave up eight 1467 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 2: in that one. I don't think was the top position 1468 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 2: killer that the odds makers are trying to say here, 1469 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't the four and tied advantage the fact that he 1470 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 2: attempts twice as many punches per or strikes per round 1471 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 2: carry Talbot in this Uh? 1472 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,439 Speaker 1: It well could. 1473 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 4: But if I think people are I mean, calling Felipe 1474 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 4: a Lima a wrestler or it is not quite right disrespectful, 1475 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 4: you think, well, he can wrestle quite well. Yes, it's 1476 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 4: a part of his game. He can do a bunch 1477 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 4: of shit really well. In fact, that's that's how I 1478 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 4: would describe his game. I mean, recall something, this was 1479 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 4: a guy who had a championship belt in Octagon, the 1480 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 4: promotion out in Europe. 1481 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: He's much more battle tested on the regional scene. 1482 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 4: I would even argue more battle tested than Frankly, I 1483 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 4: mean the Barcelo's fight now withstanding, but certainly in terms 1484 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 4: of victory is much more battle tested than Talbot. I mean, 1485 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 4: He's had to work on a vaster array of skills. 1486 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 4: So I think Talbot's got some real striking advantages. That 1487 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 4: is true, and that's what you're pinpointing, and that's real. 1488 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 4: But be like, oh well, Lima has to wrestle him 1489 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 4: to win, well, he can against Niemoll, he's striking Peyton's level. No, 1490 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 4: it's not a Peyton's but if you but dude, is 1491 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 4: Islam striking on Dustin Poier's level. No, But the fact 1492 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 4: that he has such a fucking threat there it changes 1493 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 4: the whole game. 1494 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 1: Is that the Vegas odds, though, are crazy because they 1495 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 1: had they had Talbot, like you know, minus one thousand 1496 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: in all of his fights before this one. Now he's 1497 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,439 Speaker 1: an underdog. It's just a crazy juxtaposition for him. 1498 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 2: What does this matchmaking say about UFC's opinion of what 1499 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 2: they really have in Talbot? 1500 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 1: Because that's what I was going to ask you, guys, 1501 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: because to me, you would think if they really were 1502 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: invested in his brand of whatever he's doing, because he's 1503 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: a very different kind of star, sure, very very different. 1504 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: But they would give him a layup. They would give 1505 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: him some guy that they were like, hey, there's no 1506 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: threat of anything here. You know, this guy wants to 1507 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: throw hands and this is perfect. They're not doing that. 1508 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: It's a little surprising. I'm a little surprised, man. 1509 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't I can't tell if this is them saying, well, 1510 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 2: let's find out right now what we have, or if 1511 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 2: this is them saying, yeah, well let's find out right 1512 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 2: now what we have, because there. 1513 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 4: Is absolutely them asking wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, time out, 1514 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 4: what the fuck? 1515 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Right? 1516 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 2: What is this? Yeah? 1517 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is absolutely. 1518 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 2: Stopped by Barcelos. But he imploded, would you say. 1519 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: Right, he looked bad. Yeah, he looked bad, and it 1520 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: was like you saw the existential vertigo because he was like, 1521 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: I can't stop this right, go to the canvas, and 1522 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: he's like, I can't stop it. 1523 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing to lose is one thing 1524 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 4: to lose badly. It's another thing at the UFC level 1525 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 4: to get man handled. 1526 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 2: That's true. 1527 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he got manhandled, and I donly just like physically 1528 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 4: like brock Lesner popped in there like the kool aid man. 1529 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 4: I mean like he looked like he It's one thing 1530 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 4: if oh, someone's shooting a double and I can't stuff 1531 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 4: it because they're really good, but you know what to 1532 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 4: do down block, sprawl all that. 1533 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: He looked like he just didn't even know what to do. 1534 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: He didn't have it. 1535 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one interesting fight. I do 1536 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 2: think Talbot bounces back in a big way because it 1537 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 2: really comes down to is heither real or not. I 1538 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 2: think he's going to show you who he is. 1539 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I hope, so don't want to see how I want 1540 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: to see how what he does if he's able to 1541 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 1: stick around. 1542 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,439 Speaker 2: Look, I guarantee your betting the other way. 1543 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm going, good man, he is good. 1544 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 2: This is a good match with John's good match making 1545 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 2: on this very good, very good match. 1546 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 4: So I'm saying, like people asking about this car. I 1547 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:44,919 Speaker 4: get some of the complaints, but. 1548 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Well, look, if you're fed up for Saturday and you're 1549 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 2: excited to watch you f C three seventeen, there's a 1550 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 2: little bit more ways to have fun and add on 1551 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 2: to this. And I'm talking of course about Pick six, 1552 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 2: brought to you by DraftKings and Fellas. You know the deal. 1553 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 2: We analyze fighters. We look at a Swiss fixed stack 1554 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 2: category like total strikes, total takedowns, and we're looking for 1555 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 2: more or less than when we look at these matchups. 1556 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 2: We talked about this Joshua Van Brandon Royville matchup, for example, 1557 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas Joshua Van ninety four point five significant strikes 1558 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 2: is what the median here is for three rounds? Are 1559 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 2: you taking more or less on that one? I am 1560 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 2: gonna ooh, ninety four significant strikes over three rounds. He 1561 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 2: does let his hands go. 1562 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 4: I'll take I'll take the over. Yeah, I'll take the over. 1563 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 4: I think he crosses one hundred. It's rare, by the 1564 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 4: way for a three round fight, but I think you 1565 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 4: can do it. 1566 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Chuck Minnenhall, Sirhi Car France, seventy two point five significant strikes. 1567 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,919 Speaker 2: That's the median. Are we going more or less on. 1568 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: That, I will say less. I think a fight ends 1569 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 1: before it gets there. 1570 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Very very interesting stuff right there. One more on when 1571 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 2: we're looking at of course, this Felipe a Lima fight, 1572 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 2: they have his take total takedowns at zero point five. 1573 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm going more. I'm going more. 1574 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 1: That would be surrou price. Again. 1575 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's gonna get all that many, 1576 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 4: but he's definitely gonna try. 1577 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1578 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 2: DraftKings Pick six is presented by of Course Draftings. The 1579 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 2: Crown is Yours. Download that DraftKings sportsbook app uh today 1580 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 2: and UH use your code combat with a K. 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When the 1594 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 2: veteran Jack Hermanson comes in there against Hobo Kock Hobo Cock. 1595 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 4: Greg Gregory, I saw hobo Cock on the way here, 1596 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 4: Penn Station, bathroom, Penn Station. 1597 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 2: Hobo Cock kind of fell apart when Cannoneer was willing 1598 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 2: to go into the war. The war based with them. 1599 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they went after it in that fight. It 1600 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 2: was fun to see. Basically, if if Hobo Cop doesn't 1601 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 2: kill you in the first two, you know, you know, 1602 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 2: round and a half, you might be able to get 1603 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 2: the upper hand. What do you see in this fight? 1604 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 1: I thought her Manson looked really good like last time 1605 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: out Pier. But you know what's weird about him is 1606 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: like he's been trading wins and losses for like five years, 1607 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 1: like where it's just win loss went like literally straight 1608 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 1: down the line and sometimes in surprising ways too. And 1609 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: what did he leave off with Like I don't even know, 1610 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 1: but no, the last one was a victory, rights, I 1611 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,560 Speaker 1: feel like a loss if we were following that trajectory, a 1612 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 1: loss is inevitable, but. 1613 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 2: You're on a gap before that last fight. 1614 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kinda I think her Manson sometimes underachieved. I 1615 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 1: don't know, like if that makes sense, but there's been 1616 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 1: times where I'm like, I feel like he's going to 1617 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: do work against somebody and he goes in there and 1618 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,759 Speaker 1: he kind of he's like, oh man, he falls apart. 1619 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 1: So I feel like he's a hard prediction. But in 1620 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,719 Speaker 1: this matchup, given you know kind of who he's fighting here, 1621 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: I dig it. I think it's a good fight for him. 1622 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting, I like that, Luke, are you a believer 1623 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 2: in Hobo Copper? Just a really fun fighter. 1624 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 4: Listen, he got tested against Cannon air Cannon here is 1625 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 4: fucking tough, even at forty years of goddamn age. 1626 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: But by the way he looks like he's and I'm 1627 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 1: not trying to be but you would think if you 1628 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: guessed what how old he was, Yeah, yeah, twenty eight. Yeah, 1629 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: that's how he looks. I mean, it's insane how chise 1630 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 1: old he is. 1631 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 2: But what Hobo and his face looks about forty five? 1632 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hobo copper mat. 1633 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: So the first person I called that was was no Gara. 1634 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: No gart got the first I mean, like funny, that's 1635 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: actually pretty act. I know. 1636 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 4: It's like imagine if you mixed an ashtray and and 1637 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 4: a catcher's mitte, you get Nogara, But which one? 1638 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 2: Yes that's brutal, but yes, yes have you seen his face? 1639 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean you know it was barely hanging off for like. 1640 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 2: I go, look, you're going harm Manson here, You're going 1641 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 2: har Manson here. 1642 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 3: I took her Manson with the spread, but you can 1643 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 3: do the spread at three and a half, five and 1644 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 3: a half, seven and a half. So I took him 1645 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 3: at seven and a half. So one judge has to 1646 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,639 Speaker 3: give him one round. That's it. 1647 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 4: Wow, Well, real aggressive betting there, guy, because you're taking 1648 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 4: her Manson as a dog. I think it's if it 1649 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 4: gets stopped in like the third and he wins the first, 1650 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 4: do you get paid out? 1651 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 1: No? 1652 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 3: No, So if her Manson loses, I finish, it's a 1653 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,639 Speaker 3: dead bet. If he wins in any way, it hits. 1654 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 3: And if he just covers the spread via scorecards, Cup. 1655 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 2: Does seem like the type of guy if you count 1656 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 2: him out, he'll get a vicious knockout. 1657 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 4: That Yeah, exactly, dude. He was like he was dealing 1658 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 4: early in that fight too. I mean, yes, he faded 1659 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 4: down the stretch, but he was dealing. 1660 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1661 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 4: I feel like a guy like that if he can 1662 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,480 Speaker 4: keep a little bit more sustained pressure. 1663 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 2: Punch resistance in that brawl to stand in there. Uh 1664 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 2: should we be hyped about thirty five year old Filipino 1665 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 2: featherweight Hyder Emil who is eleven and as a professional 1666 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,320 Speaker 2: three and oh in the UFC, But he takes on 1667 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 2: a Jose Miguel Delgado who doesn't have a Wikipedia pag. 1668 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 2: Should we care? 1669 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I mean that one is. 1670 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, to me is not super high on 1671 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 4: the list of intrigue. I don't think it's a bad 1672 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 4: fight by any stretch, but no, it's not one that. 1673 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,640 Speaker 2: Tracy Cortes, we're a big fan on this program, coming on. 1674 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: We is at Ian. 1675 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 4: I don't hate her, but like you know, when we 1676 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 4: say we are fans, you're a fan of the table. 1677 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,679 Speaker 1: One way, when we're talking about yeah drinks on the other. 1678 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 2: End, I feel like I don't know these guys anymore. 1679 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 2: She finally found the UFC defeat when she stepped up 1680 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,679 Speaker 2: against Rosenami Unis and lost a decision was a competitive 1681 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 2: She lost an eyelash, I mean it was. It was 1682 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 2: kind of a humbling loss. But she's facing a thirty 1683 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 2: eight year old Vivian a year though, right, who is 1684 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 2: a decision machine who always loses when she steps up 1685 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 2: to the high consistently. I think Tracy Cortez bounces back 1686 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 2: and clues. In fact, I think this one of the 1687 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 2: safest bets her by her by decision in here. 1688 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Cortes has had issues fading down the stretch too. But 1689 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 1690 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 4: I think she's I think she's better overall, and I 1691 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 4: mean better with Ortega or without uh without What I'm 1692 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 4: gonna say is too if you look at the case normally, 1693 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 4: if you look at the case of Araujo, she like 1694 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 4: loses to Natalia Silva then beats Karini Silva. 1695 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, right, that's exactly who you are, right there. 1696 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 1: So I saw her in the main event once at 1697 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 1: the Apex by the way or whatever, how long ago 1698 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 1: was that, It was about four or five years ago. 1699 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: This guy was this guy. 1700 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 4: This guy was like, yo, I'm not even gonna talk 1701 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 4: to my girlfriend Araujo was fighting in the motherfucking Apex. 1702 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 1: I got a second hour broadcast. 1703 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 2: If she's fighting Cortez, he might not be talking to 1704 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 2: his girlfriend for a while. You never know. 1705 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Remember Cortez beat Blanchefield back in the day. It's crazy crazy, 1706 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: it was a BS. It was what's the what's the significance? 1707 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 3: I was the Swich decision. Decision could have been controversy. 1708 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting stuff right there. 1709 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,759 Speaker 2: Also, I'm into this lightweight till with Terence McKinney, thirty 1710 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:02,639 Speaker 2: years old, all sixteen wins by stoppage, fifteen of those 1711 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 2: in the first round as a professional, by the way, 1712 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 2: But he can get just as easily knocked out in 1713 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,880 Speaker 2: the first round as we've seen often. Dude, this is 1714 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:14,759 Speaker 2: gonna be theater on Slava clause Viachzlav Borischev, great TV fighter. 1715 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,439 Speaker 2: I think this could be the fight at plus five 1716 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 2: hundred for this fight to go the distance. I think 1717 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: this could be the fight that McKinney streak stops, whereas 1718 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,759 Speaker 2: every single fight in his career has been a stoppage 1719 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 2: win one of them. I think that with the fact 1720 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 2: that Borschev can take punishment and routinely does that his 1721 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 2: only stoppage loss came against Chase Hooper and he said 1722 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 2: he didn't tap, although Alistair felt it. And I really 1723 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 2: think this could be the time because what McKinney said, 1724 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,720 Speaker 2: this is the second fight with his new camp. He 1725 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 2: said the first fight was only a knockout. Yeah, he 1726 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 2: said the first fight was only a knockout because the 1727 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,760 Speaker 2: guy kind of ran into it. He's saying his mindset 1728 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 2: on Saturday will be if he can't get Borschev out 1729 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 2: of there early, it's to not over extend. I don't 1730 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,719 Speaker 2: know if he can do that because he loves action, 1731 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 2: but you know, going the distance or not. This is 1732 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 2: a pretty fun fight here. Could this signify a stretch 1733 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 2: the start of a actual run for McKinnon. 1734 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 4: I have no idea, but it's a fun fight and 1735 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing. It's hard for me to 1736 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 4: make any kind of proclamation about it. 1737 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I kind of dig the at plus five hundred though, 1738 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that's a that's an intriguing if you're a gambling. 1739 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 2: You know that's. Hey, what is your take on all 1740 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 2: the comics moving to Austin? 1741 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 1: Oh, all the all the now? They don't have to 1742 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 1: take on that. I don't know Joe Rogan started something. 1743 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, all right, Well, he's been out there, he's 1744 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 1: been out to Austin, he's visited that whole thing. Yeah, 1745 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I was on the show. 1746 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 2: That's true. 1747 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: I forget it's a comic. 1748 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 2: I forgot about that because he forgot about us during 1749 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 2: that show. Nicol Price is a no scene underdog. We 1750 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 2: mentioned at the top of the show against a plus 1751 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 2: three thousds. So this Jacoby Smith line of plus three stouts, yeah, undefeated, 1752 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 2: minus three thousand. I believe this trump's the record, which 1753 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 2: was supposed to be Chefchenko against Nico Montana was the 1754 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 2: record for the biggest favorite in UFC history. 1755 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 1: This crushes that. 1756 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 2: Jesus how good is Jacoby Smith? Ten? 1757 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:02,280 Speaker 1: Very good? 1758 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 4: But I don't know about minus three fucking against shaking 1759 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 4: as a guy like that who has nine I look this. 1760 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,759 Speaker 1: Up Antonio Gramardi of mm A, Yes, he has eighteen. 1761 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: I think eighteen children fights to the to the two, 1762 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 1: you know UFC fights. It's a crazy line. But I 1763 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 1: will say that Jacoby Smith, you know, he trains it 1764 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 1: ford us. He goes up the DC's buddies with him, 1765 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 1: they bring him up there. He trains with Habib. You 1766 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 1: talk to this dude like he's legit. Man, He is 1767 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 1: a legit. You watched that left hand that he landed 1768 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: on the parts. It was ridiculous and went right. It 1769 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: was like one of the cleanest knockouts. I think Jakobe wins, 1770 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,520 Speaker 1: but I think the lines a little. 1771 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,680 Speaker 2: That seemed like Price is handicapped. He's thirty five years old. 1772 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 2: He has lost four of his last six, two by stoppage. 1773 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: Robbi Lawler got him easy first. They're putting him on 1774 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 1: the ice floe and give him a kick, see you later. 1775 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,839 Speaker 2: All right, all right, we don't care about heavyweight Johannah 1776 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 2: to Denise against against un beating Alvin Hines, making his 1777 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,600 Speaker 2: UFC name nobody, and then there's a curtain jerker below that. 1778 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a. 1779 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 1: Couple on there that are not like amazing. But in general, 1780 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 1: for five whole, you're right, there's tons of there's at 1781 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: least more than there's more than five fights to like. 1782 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: That's plenty and all a lot. 1783 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to let you know by the way, that Cuervo, 1784 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 2: DraftKings and Dave and Busters are teaming up this weekend 1785 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas for UFC three seventeen to create a 1786 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 2: memorable experience for fans as they gear up for International 1787 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 2: fight Weekend. Or how about week Fella in Las Vegas 1788 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 2: open to the public Tomorrow Friday, June twenty seventh, headed 1789 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 2: over to David Busters located at eight twenty one David 1790 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 2: Baker Way and Henderson, Nevada for an event to remember 1791 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 2: all thanks to tequila, the tequila that invented tequila, which 1792 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 2: is of course Quervo. It's from eight to eleven pm 1793 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 2: Pacific Friday tomorrow, must be twenty one or older. Tell 1794 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 2: them BC. 1795 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 4: If our friends at DraftKings are watching, I want a 1796 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:56,599 Speaker 4: pair of those gloves. 1797 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, gloves are sick. 1798 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one, Luke. That will not 1799 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 2: be in attendance on here. I wish we were, but 1800 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 2: shout out to Cuervo just the same, guys. This is 1801 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 2: a loaded fight weekend because there is a better or 1802 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 2: worse head to head headliner in Anaheim, California. 1803 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 5: Where. 1804 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 2: J even doing a bit to his own pay per view. 1805 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 2: Quickly we have malign in the fight. 1806 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 4: I think there's enough reason everyone has. 1807 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: It's he gives at that. 1808 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about That's it right, That's all We're. 1809 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 4: Saying tonight, by the way, by the way starts versus 1810 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 4: Sergio pettit's good fight'stakes. 1811 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 1: That's a good ass fight. 1812 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:37,640 Speaker 3: It's tomorrow night, isn't it. 1813 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,720 Speaker 1: Oh, it's tomorrow. Today's Thursday. Look, you did get off Thursday. 1814 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,639 Speaker 2: From an x f C card in South Florida. Fired 1815 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 2: up for you? And you see any future killers there? 1816 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 4: Pay attention to the name Jarrett Betton Court, Jarrett and 1817 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,760 Speaker 4: bets in Court. He looks like he's the Also, Anthony went, 1818 01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 4: holy mother fuck wow. I mean I've just he like 1819 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 4: looks like prime fucking Schwarzenegger out there. It just it 1820 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:06,799 Speaker 4: traps to the ceiling. 1821 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Amazing, And he sucked the other guy up and Press has. 1822 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 4: Preston Parsons has the most overwhelming cauliflower I've ever imagine 1823 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,679 Speaker 4: going to Whole Foods and just taking two big ass 1824 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 4: heads of doing that. 1825 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,080 Speaker 2: Is it more alarming than the roast beef for that 1826 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 2: soccer goalie? 1827 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 1: Okay? 1828 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 6: He always there's a place I like to hide. 1829 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 2: I have a train a doorway that I run through. 1830 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 1: And then how often is shitting blood too often? 1831 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,559 Speaker 2: Smiling next to you? 1832 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 1: Can you get sick drinking piste? Even if it's your 1833 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,839 Speaker 1: own good Luke, what it for the record? 1834 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 2: What is your favorite Creed song? I'm serious about this. 1835 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,400 Speaker 1: Burn the masters and then let me kiss on it. 1836 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 2: Do you have a higher guy or more of a. 1837 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:05,599 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm not a pathetic Whitely. I mean, I'm 1838 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 4: a pathetic white, but I'm a different You guys do 1839 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,639 Speaker 4: a very different music taste. 1840 01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 1: Starts pulling the mic. You know, it's like, this is 1841 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,720 Speaker 1: what it's like. He's extending. 1842 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 2: Thank you to Queropho, thank you to DraftKings. We love 1843 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 2: you all. Thank you for watching Chuckman and all. People 1844 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 2: can find you on Uncrowned. I'm sure, yes, sir, you 1845 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 2: get your hat on the Boston Scally myth dot com. 1846 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the myth dot com. M I t H. 1847 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,760 Speaker 2: All right, you do great work for on Crowned. I 1848 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 2: hope you continue to do great work with us. Thank 1849 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 2: you for being our friend. 1850 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 1851 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Fellows, great Charles Minden Hall, Long Island, look in the back. 1852 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,680 Speaker 2: We can probably get great content from you on your 1853 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:38,799 Speaker 2: main card minute podcast. 1854 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,559 Speaker 1: Baby, let's go all right, Morning Live. I think I'm 1855 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 1: gonna do a watch along for the entire main card. 1856 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 3: Check out Luke Thomas any sub does missus Thomas have 1857 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 3: to say about. 1858 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't do that for the Apex mother. 1859 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,240 Speaker 3: No, you can't touch a book by its cover. 1860 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 1: Yeah you can, actually you can, That's exactly you can, 1861 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 1: but it's not accurate. You can. 1862 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 3: You have through twelve and Saudi Arabia. You know Saudi 1863 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 3: Arabia was better. 1864 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:05,120 Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. 1865 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 2: I love Blanco. I want to tell you guys morning, 1866 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 2: Coombat Dot Shop a good place to go. You can 1867 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 2: buy your merch the proceeds, to be honest, they go 1868 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,759 Speaker 2: directly to Long Island. Luke myself, Luke Thomas. 1869 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 4: Uh notice, Chuckman, Oh my god, we didn't give you 1870 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:20,519 Speaker 4: a shirt. 1871 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,960 Speaker 1: Where my checket? Next time to it has my name 1872 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 1: on it. 1873 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 2: No episode tomorrow on Friday. You can check out at 1874 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:27,320 Speaker 2: a live chet. 1875 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: Luke. 1876 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 2: We got live chet. What times heres tomorrow? 1877 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 1: Probably gonna be after our call, so right right around 1878 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 1: two pm? 1879 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go eleven a m. Eastern time 1880 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 2: to check it out on the Brian campbell sperience. That's Luke, 1881 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,920 Speaker 2: Chuck BC L I L thank you so much for 1882 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 2: joining us. Enjoy the fights this weekend. UFC three seventeen Topooria. 1883 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 2: We need you. Let's go, Brother deliver