1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, ladies 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Thursday, 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: March eleventh. March Madness is nearly upon us. It's really 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: here for me Conference Championship week. A lot of gambling 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: going on. I'll talk about that in a second quickly. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you guys for the reaction to 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the Jim Jackson interview. I guess I have a lot 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: of Big Ten listeners. I heard a lot of Big 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Ten fans chiming in on. Oh those Ohio State teams 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: broke my heart back in the day. Would Jimmy jack Uh. 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: He's a good dude, very good guy, nice announcer, obviously 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: a great player in his time. And um, I think 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: you guys are like today's interview as well. It's an 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: interview with an up and coming sports media personality, Ashley 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Nicole Moss. I found her one day. I just saw 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: her name pop in my timeline. I was like, okay, 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: that's a take, and gave her the Instagram follow. She 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: puts out a lot of interesting content and she's kind 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: of the new generation of sports media. I came up 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: in the old school. You know, you get an internship, 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: you then you know, get to the small newspaper, um, 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: and then work your way up the ladder. Now, I 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: did at one point see that the ladder was very long, 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't have the patience to wait, so I 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: kind of came in the back door by creating the website. 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Sold that YadA, YadA, YadA. Um. As you know, Uh, 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: it was written about in the New York Times. Very 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: exciting for the family obviously for me, and that helped 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: me get to where I am today. And you know, 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Ashley talks about her journey. She's very young, and she's 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of got an interesting path. If you can build 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: a social media brand while you're in college around your field, 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think you're gonna have a good chance 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: to crack it into it. She's starting to do some 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: pretty cool things. Um. It's it's super weird right now 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: about what you can do when you're starting to create, 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: like your own reputation in a certain field. Like if 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: you go into engineering, you know, go the engineering path 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: and do whatever engineers do. UM. I don't know if 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I took any engineering classes in the hindsight, probably would 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: have been very smart of me. But in in sports media, 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: you can easily build up a brand around sports media 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: and having interesting takes and you know, sifting through data. 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean the reams of data available on the internet 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: right now. You can go read anything you want. You 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: can find out any stats you want, and you can 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: look at things from a different perspective and really come 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: up quickly. So I think you guys will enjoy the 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: talk with Ashley Nicole Moss. Fox Sports Radio has the 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen. 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Love the only thing better than sitting on your couch 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: watching the game. He's making money while you do it. 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Here's your best bet? All right? Before we get to actually, 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: I want to quickly go over a couple of bets. 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: I had a nice run Wednesday. If you guys follow 58 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: me on the Graham, you hopefully made the bets. Nice 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: little uh nice little six three and one afternoon slash 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: evening in college basketball, I can get these out now. 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: The problem is they're all first half plays. And let 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: me just you know, quickly go through this. If you 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: guys are into the gambling Championship Week. I've been doing 64 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: this for several years. The books have sharpened up a 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: little bit and the numbers are a little tighter, so 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: some of them are going to be close, and um 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm doing them anyway. So in the Big East today, 68 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: my strategy is I'm going to bet on the first 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: half of the team that played yesterday, Georgetown against the 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: team that has not played yet. That would be Villanova. 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: So Georgetown played yesterday, awesome performance, impressive victory. They come 72 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: in and they will be my first half bet. Now, 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: the problem is, I don't see a line for the 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: game eight and a half Villanova. I'm assuming I can 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: get plus four plus four and a half first half 76 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: for the Hoyas. I'm taking the points. I'm also doing 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: that with Butler in UH, in the Big East. I'm 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: doing it in the Big East. The Big Twelve and 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: the A C C. I'm just giving those out for now. 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: I need to look a little bit closer at the 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: Pack twelve, UH and some of the smaller conferences. But 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve, for Shure, I will be on 83 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and they they they are in the Big twelve. 84 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: They have a big game. Kansas State I will be 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: betting on in the A C C duke And again 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: this is just first half, not full game duke Syracuse, 87 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Miami and North Carolina. And I actually think the most 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: value is probably in the A C C. Because I'm 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: not a huge believer in the Virginia Tech team this year. 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm also not a massive uh believer in Florida State. 91 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: So those are gonna be all my first half bets 92 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I just gave you. I think uh seven. I'll be 93 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: banking all those any that I add closer to tip, 94 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: I'll put them on Instagram stories and listen. If if 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: it's difficult for you to pull a first half, play 96 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: full unit if you're bet If you're betting a hundred 97 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: dollars a bet and you want to do fifty, hey 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: that's no big deal. Do do half a unit. But 99 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: yesterday the first half plays went three, three and one 100 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: and three other machine plays. As you guys know, I 101 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: have some friends who came up with an algorithm it 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: runs hot and it runs cold, just like anybody. And 103 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: they went three and oh yesterday with the algo. So 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: a nice little run. And um, I'm gonna be gambling 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: heavy on college basketball all weekend because after this, I 106 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: you know, I do some NBA um, but far fewer 107 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 1: plays like this is when you're firing, you know, opening 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: around to the n C A n A man. I mean, 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, have a ton of bets in just because 110 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: it's exciting and I can find advantages because I've been 111 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: diving into the numbers. Uh here the last month I 112 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: got obviously turn it up a little bit as we 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: get closer to the tournament. So very exciting gambling coming up. 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: But for now, here's Ashley Nicole Moss. Jason likes to 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: think he knows everything when it comes to sports. I 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: know what sports fans want, but for everything he doesn't, 117 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 119 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into the podcast someone who you know. 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: We we get a big cross section of audio here, 121 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: people who listen who are older, maybe my age, who 122 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: have young kids, and our sports fans who kind of 123 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: grew up in the eighties and nineties NBA and NFL. 124 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: And then we get a lot of young people who 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: are always asking for advice. And I've been looking around 126 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: for somebody who's kind of on the rise who have 127 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: seen their profile grow, and I was like, oh man, 128 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: this girl is really and to like kind of blow up. 129 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: I see her name in my timeline more. And I 130 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: know that's not the only way to judge how someone's doing. 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: But Ashley Nicole Moss a sports TV radio host. Ashley, 132 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: welcome into straight Fire. Thank you so much for having me. 133 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. It's gonna be fun. You 134 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: are also in the I Heart radio family. You've practically 135 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: done a lot of stuff and and actually, let me 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: first of all start here. You are a Knicks fan, 137 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: right You grew up in New York born and raised. Yeah, 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: born and raised Knicks fan as well. So I was 139 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: born in New York as well. I didn't my parents, 140 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, we moved out of there when we were 141 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: like to. But I gotta say, like my Knicks fan card, 142 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: I've come close to handing it in a couple of 143 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: times over the last twenty years. Um, should we get 144 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: excited coming out of the All Star break here about 145 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: the Knicks? Absolutely? I mean I think this next team, listen, 146 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: this next team is not gonna win a championship. I 147 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: think the fan base is a hundred percent aware of that. 148 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any fantasies about it being any different. 149 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 1: But I we're looking for as fans, is any type 150 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: of sign of life, any type of sign of this 151 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: is what the future could look like as I think 152 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: this team being consistent winning, and yes, there's still a 153 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: lot of holes in the game. You know, offensively, we 154 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: need more shooting. Defensively we look great, but you can't 155 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: win every game with defense. As you know, despite what 156 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: people may say, I'm a big believer that defense still 157 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: wins championships. But you still need shooting in a shooting 158 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: ran league. So there's a lot of things to be 159 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: excited about. I think TIBs also has a great connection 160 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: with these guys, and the attitude is a big difference. 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: This team really believes that they can win regardless of 162 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: who they're playing, and that's what you're looking for as 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: a Knicks fan. There's been so much constant change in rotation, 164 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: whether it's front office, whether it's coaching staff, whether it's players. 165 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: We're looking for stability. We finally have that, and we're 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: starting to see what that looks like in terms of 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: wins and losses. So I would be more than excited 168 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: if I were a Knicks fan, and I am so 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm extremely excited about what's going on. I've been down 170 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: this road with before. You know, in Chicago, I got 171 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: all excited with Derrick Rose, like oh, that's fun team. 172 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: And then I mean maybe they just ran into lebron 173 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: but ultimately, like he ran everybody young into the ground. 174 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: You know that, I felt bad for the guys. I 175 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: mean they were Jimmy Butler and everybody so beat up. 176 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: But um, I don't know, I like your optimistic, you 177 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: very positive, and you know, actually I gotta say so 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: when I was doing research on this, you know, you 179 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: obviously have a pretty impressive web page. I don't know 180 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: if you did that yourself or you paid somebody did that. Yeah, 181 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: geez um, and I got I was stunned. You got 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: out of college like what five six years ago? Yeah, 183 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: five years ago? Like so yeah, oh my good, Wow, 184 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. Now, let me say this is a 185 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: difficult media field to crack. Um. A lot of people 186 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: don't know, like traditional newspapers and local TV is kind 187 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: of waning, and social media is like an avenue in. 188 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: Let's just start off with advice that you would give 189 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: young people currently in college who are getting ready to 190 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: come out enter this ugly field of sports journalism slash 191 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: sports media. I think you hit it right. There is 192 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: social media and social media. Even five years ago when 193 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: I was in school, it wasn't nearly as big as 194 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: it is now. I mean, yeah, people had Instagram, there 195 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: wasn't nearly as many filters, and nobody was really on 196 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: it and the picture quality was horrendous. And Twitter was 197 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: probably the biggest social media app. Facebook had already started 198 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: to die out, so everyone was tweeting, but nobody was 199 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: using Instagram, so it wasn't so much visual as it 200 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: is now. And I mean you have to use those 201 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: tools to your advantage. There there YouTube. I mean so 202 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: many people have been discovered on YouTube, whether you're talking music, 203 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: whether you're talking media personalities. I mean it's there for 204 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: the taking. And I think a lot of people think, 205 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, in college you have to kind of do 206 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: the traditional route. You have to get the internship, and 207 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: then that internship has to turn into a job, and 208 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: then if it doesn't work out that way, you're a failure. 209 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: And there's so many different ways. One thing I learned, 210 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: and I learned this probably a couple of years ago, 211 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: because I was one of those college kids who thought 212 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna come out of school do really well. 213 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna be on ESPN and be a millionaire 214 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: by the time I was twenty five, like it was 215 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna be fine, and it didn't happen like that. But 216 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to get to the same destination. 217 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: You just have to be willing to one do the work. 218 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't willing to do 219 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: the work. They just kind of wanted to come to them. 220 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: You gotta be okay with rejection. There's a lot of 221 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: nose that you'll hear before you'll hear any guesses, and 222 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: you have to be okay with perfecting your craft and 223 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: realizing in that stage you're probably not gonna see a 224 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: lot of the things that you want to happen happen. 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: But when it does start to happen, it's like a snowball, 226 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: like it really just picks up speed once you get 227 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: to that one spot. Let me let's back up a little, 228 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: because you said social media, and you know a lot 229 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: of people think like, oh, I can get a Twitter 230 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: account and I can say boisterous, crazy things. I will 231 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: notice me, like, I don't know. Twitter can be difficult, 232 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: it's really annoying. I've I've lowered mine. I'm like you, 233 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: I've lowered my Twitter and take and done more Instagram. 234 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like, you know, if you're 235 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: not coming up the traditional path of internships which I 236 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: did and working at TV or radio, um, like, how 237 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: do you hone the skills? Because I did look at 238 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: your YouTube page. You've got a couple of thousands subscribers, 239 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: and I a lot of people find it difficult to say, oh, okay, 240 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: I've got a YouTube page. I'm just gonna turn on 241 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: the camera and talk. That can be difficult and challenging 242 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Yeah, I would say do 243 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: it until you felt comfortable putting it out there, because 244 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: it can be a little intimidating, especially you know. Luckily 245 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: for me, I started off as an actor, like, I 246 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: did commercials and went on auditions when I was young. 247 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: My parents, my mom put me into that, so my 248 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: experience in front of the camera has always been a 249 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: level of comfort. I've always had a great relationship with 250 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: the camera. And once I realized I wanted to do 251 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: journalism and I got into involved with sports and I 252 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: realized how much I loved the logistics and the conversations 253 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: and the story surrounding it. It. It went ahead and switched. 254 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: But don't put something out there until you feel comfortable. 255 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: You can use YouTube as a way to kind of 256 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: just hone your skills and be comfortable speaking in front 257 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: of the camera because a lot of people do freeze up. 258 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I see it a lot. They freeze up. They really 259 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: they think they're in too much in their own head 260 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: and you lose your train of thought. And some people 261 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: are naturals in front of the camera. Some people aren't. 262 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: They have to work a little bit harder at it. 263 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: But the good thing is about The good thing is 264 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: rather that you have the tools there to help you practice. 265 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: And that's a lot of you know, steps ahead of 266 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: what I had, what people before me had, with people 267 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: before them had, you had to go ahead and learn 268 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: the hard way. Sometimes you just were out there and 269 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: doing live TV. You fumbled. There was no oh, well 270 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: figure it out. You didn't know what I mean. So 271 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: I think the social media aspect and all the tools 272 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: at your at your fingertips has really made it. You 273 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: should come out of this and be top notch journalists 274 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: and ready to go when you do get that job opportunity. 275 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: So I guess I didn't know about the child acting stuff. 276 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: That's kind of I'm curious, what, Like, clearly you had 277 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, a lot of options. 278 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Why would you pick this field? Like, were you big 279 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: athlete growing up with your parents athletes? My parents are 280 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: an athletes. My dad is a huge sports fanatic though. 281 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: Growing up. I mean there's pictures of me as a 282 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: baby and I'm sitting on his lap and I have 283 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: like a Knicks fitted that's way too big for me 284 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: on my head. Another picture, I have a Dallas Cowboy 285 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: jersey on, which was a fandom that was thrust upon 286 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: me as well. So I always had a relationship with sports. 287 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: I played sports in school. I played basketball a little bit, 288 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: I played volleyball, soccer, a little bit of everything. But 289 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't until I got into like high school and 290 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I would start in debating sports. But I realized like 291 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: I was really good at it. Like I would debate 292 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: the guys at lunch and they would be like stuck 293 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: on some of the things that I would hey. And 294 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: then I kind of used that to develop it into 295 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: I loved writing, and I loved telling stories, and that 296 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons I got into journalism, was 297 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: to tell the stories of these athletes more than just 298 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: what you see on the field, more than just wins 299 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: and losses. And then it kind of developed into learning 300 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the logistics of the game and making myself knowledgeable in that. 301 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: So you combine all those things. And when I was younger, 302 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: when I was doing acting, I didn't have the you know, 303 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: the charisma or the hutzpah as we say in New 304 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: York to deal with all the rejection that comes with it. 305 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be a kid. So I commend 306 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: all those child actors. That's hard because after like my 307 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: tenth audition where I got rejected, I was like, I'm good, 308 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. Like I don't 309 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: want to do it. I'm good, I don't want to 310 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: do this anymore. So it kind of flew. It all 311 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: kind of rolled into each other somehow. Yeah, yeah, you know, 312 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: I remember now when I first got to FS one, Like, 313 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, YouTube was not a huge thing. Obviously it 314 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: was big, but now you know, as people cut their cable, 315 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people are watching YouTube. And we just 316 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: hired a guy at Fox or J Young who has 317 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: this colossal YouTube following, and I'm like, man, more can 318 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: I read r J? I didn't know like r J Young? 319 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: And I started talking to him over text, and I'm like, 320 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: YouTube really can be a thing. So I do want 321 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: to ask you. Do you suggest to people that when 322 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: they start up YouTube, they maybe make it private so 323 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: only they can see it, or the friends and family, 324 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: and then after a lot of practice, then maybe you 325 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: unleash it to the world or what have you. I 326 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: think practice should just happen on your own and you 327 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: can always upload videos, save into your computer and watch 328 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: and watch it like game film and figure out, Okay, 329 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I can do this better. I can do that better. 330 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I think the minute you start a YouTube channel and 331 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: you start producing content that you feel comfortable putting out there, 332 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: take it off private, make it public, start trying to 333 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: get those subscribers. Use your social media to go ahead 334 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: and promote that page so that you get the traction, 335 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: you get the views. Because what good is a YouTube 336 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: page or YouTube channel that nobody watches? So I would say, 337 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: until you feel comfortable, don't put anything on YouTube. But 338 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: having a private page, whether or not you know, is 339 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: just pointless. So just practice when your own you can 340 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: always save your videos, watch them, show your family and friends, 341 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: air drop it to them like, hey, what do you 342 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: think of this? And then when you're ready to go, 343 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: hit that ground running and do what you can do. 344 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, I just dawned upon me. I bet when 345 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: your dad was watching the Knicks, they were good. This 346 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: was I'm assuming the nineties. You know, the Patrick John Starks, 347 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: those Knicks. Okay, and now you go to college in 348 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: Miami where Lebron just happens to go to Miami and 349 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: is ascending and the top of his game. So you 350 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: really looked into my gett into you know, graduating and 351 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: getting out of Miami when you were there, I'm curious, 352 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: what was the vibe like in Miami. You're you're a 353 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: college kid and the Miami Heat are now bigger than 354 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: the Hurricanes and everybody right, Yeah, it was insanity. I mean, 355 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: especially being a Knicks fan. It was crazy because my 356 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: hatred for the Heat has subsided. It's subsided at these past. 357 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Once Lebron left, it was like my hate went with it. 358 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: It was fine, I don't I started working with the team, 359 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: I I developed a soft spot for them. But when 360 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: Lebron James was here and it was the Big Three. 361 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how who hated them more than 362 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: I did, like maybe my dad or I mean, it 363 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: was just I would root for any single any team 364 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: that played against him in the final. I was a 365 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: fan of that team. I was a Spurs fan one year, 366 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: I was a Mavericks fan. The next year. I was 367 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: a Warriors fan. I mean it was just well Warriors 368 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: when he went to the Cavs. But I was just 369 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: I just couldn't take it. I was I just was 370 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: not a fan of the team, and they just would 371 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: not stop winning. They would just constantly winning, and you 372 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: would never hear the end of it. In Miami, it 373 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: was constantly Miami Heat commercials and apparel and people had 374 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: flags on their cars, and you couldn't tell Heat fans 375 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: anything during those era, during that era, and respectfully, so, 376 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you have the best player in the NBA 377 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: arguably at the time, Like I would be if that 378 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: was the New York Knicks, you couldn't tell me anything. 379 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: You still couldn't till this day if that were me, 380 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: like I would be, like, listen, we went back to 381 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: back championships, so I get it. It was a tough 382 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: time though for non heat. So now pat Riley, former 383 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Nick coach leg uh Lakers guy as well was in 384 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: Miami at the time. Uh did did he kind of? 385 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming you interviewed him plenty based on 386 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: stuff I've read. It was hilarious. I interviewed him when 387 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I was twenty three, I want to say, and I 388 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: was so it was probably I've never gotten nervous for 389 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: an interview. That's the only interview I ever got nervous for. 390 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: For two reasons. One, it's pat Rody. When he walks 391 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: into the room, he has this like godfather or about him. 392 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: It's just like it just feels like you're meaning like 393 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: Tony soprano. It really is like the craziest feeling. And too, 394 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: I'm a Knicks fan and I've talked Mad Trash about 395 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: the heat, and I wonder if he could like smell 396 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: the Knicks fandom on me, like like a dog or something. 397 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: It was. It was crazy. But then you know he 398 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: starts speaking and you kind of you let your guard down. 399 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: You realize really how warm he can actually be. I 400 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: think you see him sitting at the Triple A and 401 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: he has like the stoic look on his face, and 402 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: you feel, oh my gosh, he's willing to cut anybody 403 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: if they don't do what they have to do. And 404 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: then you get understanding of why people you know put 405 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: him in such higher regard, not only because he's a 406 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: genius at what he does, but because he genuinely is 407 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: a good person. And um, it was a great experience 408 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: interviewing him. It was top five interviews I've ever done, 409 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: but also the most nerve wracking. Yeah. Yeah, well, let 410 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: me ask you about being nervous. I mean, obviously you're 411 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: super young, and you you know, young kind of you 412 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: usually were fearless when we're young. I'll never forget. I 413 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: got sent to cover baseball Emmets Cardinals game at the time, 414 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: and Albert pooh Holes. You know, I didn't know the 415 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: protocol and you, I'm assuming you know, uh, may not 416 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: have known it either. But you know, baseball players, when 417 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: they're walking around the stadium, you can't just go up 418 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: and ask them questions. I just saw pool Holes walking around. 419 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: I just went up to hey, Albert, quick question. He 420 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: looked at me like I asked him for money or something, 421 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: and just totally brushed me off and I was like, Oh, 422 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: I guess, I'm I guess, I don't know there's rules here. Uh. 423 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: Did you ever have any moments where you were like, oh, 424 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: I am twenty two and I'm surrounded by old media people. 425 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: You've seen the media. They're considerably old of than you are. 426 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: Any any young moments that were either fearless or embarrassing. 427 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: Probably the two moments that stick out to me was 428 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: my first big gig out of was working the Orange Bowl, 429 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: and that was when Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson were 430 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: going at it, and I was surrounded by people like 431 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: Samantha Ponder and that ESPN crew at the time, and 432 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: you know Fox Sports was there and that crew at 433 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: the time. I mean it was people that I've watched 434 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: on TV for years and now we're literally standing in 435 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: the same room at the same press conference, interviewing the 436 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: same players. And it was just a surreal moment. But 437 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: the most surreal probably would be my first Super Bowl, 438 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: and that was down here in Miami and I were 439 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: walking into the convention Center and Radio Road and just 440 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: be and just taken aback by what was this twenty nine? No, 441 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: this was past Super Bowl, the one the Chiefs one. 442 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, before the pandemic started. Yeah yeah, got 443 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: it right before the pandemic started. As I walked into 444 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: the room, and it was just I mean, you see 445 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: every body from Michael Strahan to Emmett Smith, and you 446 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: see um the Fox Sports crew, you see the CBS crew, 447 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: you see Tony Romeo. I mean people that like one, 448 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of two that like I watch on 449 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: TV religiously, and we're all like bumping elbows and sharing 450 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 1: the same air, in the same space. And I just 451 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: remember I bumped into Emmett Smith and I almost had 452 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: a heart attack. I was like, Emmett, I love you 453 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: so much. I'm suchy, and like, you know, that's not 454 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: something you're supposed to do when you're they're working, you're 455 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: not supposed to ask for autographs, take pictures. I met 456 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott there, we took a picture. I was one 457 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: of those people like, look if I never worked a 458 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl again, I'm gonna remember this. So everyone get 459 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: out of I'm taking pictures. Move like. And I think 460 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: that's something that people have to do is just have 461 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: to obviously be respectful and don't overstep your boundaries. But 462 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: I think you gotta live in the moment because you 463 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: never know if it's gonna be the last time. And 464 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: I think you have to do things your own way 465 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: to a degree, and people either respect you they don't 466 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: respect you for it, But a lot of the time 467 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: people respect authenticity. So oh yeah, certainly, I think you know, 468 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't give Bill Simmons a lot of credit. I 469 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: almost never talked about him, but I think he was 470 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: the guy who kind of changed things from being a 471 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: strictly I'm a reporter to the fan element, and he 472 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: was like a fan and people are like, you can't 473 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a fan. What does he know? He 474 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: can't say this stuff, He can't act like that. Well, 475 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: yeah you can, and the new generation does. I mean, 476 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: you're openly a Knicks fan, you're covering the NBA, you 477 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: talk about the NBA various platforms, right, you can be 478 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: a fan. And I think that authenticity helps the audience 479 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: almost gravitate towards you more aboutely, would you agree they 480 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: like you more because of that? Absolutely? And I get 481 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: that a lot. When people like meet me or they 482 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: write me, like on Instagram, or even like when I 483 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: do shows and it's like a live chat, people will 484 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: say things like that. I just feel like I make 485 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: it no secret. You know, a proud New Yorker. I 486 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: come from New York. I wear that proudly. I've never 487 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: shied away from it. I don't try to hide it 488 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: um And I think that comes across and a lot 489 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: of my reporting style. It comes across in the way 490 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: that I dress. It comes across in the way that 491 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 1: I look, in the way that I think. And I 492 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: think that people can relate to that. And I make 493 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: no secret either. I'm a proud Cowboys fan. Whenever I 494 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys, I say WE. When I say, 495 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to explain that, I don't know how 496 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: you're a Cowboys fan from New York. That doesn't make sense. 497 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: I was on We did a I did a show 498 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: the other day and they were asking me about Dak 499 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Prescott and how I feel about the contract, and even 500 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: towards the end, I said, you know, I can't wait 501 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: for US to win a US US to win a 502 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Most people would say the Dallas Cowboys. I'm 503 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: saying US because I'm a fan. So people also they 504 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: like that. They like the relatability because I think a 505 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of times journalists people in the media seems so 506 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: far away. Especially in sports, you feel like there's a hierarchy. 507 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: There's the athletes, there's the media because they have a 508 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 1: direct line to the athletes, they meet them, and then 509 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: the fans kind of feel like they're at the bottom 510 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: because they don't have access, they don't have that kind 511 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: of reach. But I've always looked at it like the 512 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: fans would make sports so fantastic. We would have nothing 513 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: to talk about, the players wouldn't have games to attend, 514 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: no fans. We see what that life looked like. So 515 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: the fans are really the foundation of what sports is 516 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: and what makes it so special. So interacting with them 517 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: and relating to them is really important to me. And 518 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: you're I think you're right because the social media aspect 519 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: has changed it. The media the middleman, the media, The 520 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: journalists have kind of been cut out. They've been marginalized 521 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: because you I don't need to know what Tiger Woods 522 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: is thinking. He'll just put it on his website or 523 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: put out an Instagram post or I don't think he 524 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: does snapchat, but whatever, you know, you know what I mean, 525 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: Like its can talk directly to the fans. I mean 526 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: that has some consequences as we saw with Myers Leonard 527 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: this week. Um, but I am curious on deck, Um 528 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: and I know you're a fan, but in reality, actually 529 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: can they win a super Bowl or even win multiple 530 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: playoff games when they just paid their quarterback forty million 531 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: dollars a year and the last I don't know, fifteen 532 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: years of evidence says it's very difficult to build a 533 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: team when you pay a quarta like that much. Well, 534 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: I was listening to the press conference this afternoon that 535 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Jerry and Doc did Um and Steven Jones, and they 536 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: said that they're below the cap enough where they can 537 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: start worrying about things like that and things that have 538 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: to be also contributed to this team to make them 539 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: a contender, especially for the Super Bowl, which ultimately is 540 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: the goal, not just the Cowboys, but if any franchise 541 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: you want to win Super Bowls. So I think obviously 542 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work the Cowboys need to do. Defensively, 543 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: it's atrocious offensively. I feel like our offensive line obviously 544 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: struggled last season because they were unhealthy and the dock 545 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: situation happened. I think the offensive line is pretty good 546 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: for a couple of more seasons then you have to 547 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: start thinking about replacing those guys as they start to 548 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: age out offensively. There's no reason that we should not 549 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: be winning that MC East Division every single year. I mean, 550 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: you have multiple Pro bowlers on your team. You have 551 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: probably on paper, one of the most talented offenses in 552 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: the NFL with Amari Cooper, with Ezekiel Elliott. I mean, 553 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: those are top names in this league. So the defense 554 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: is really gonna make or break this team because I 555 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: still believe that defense wins championships. I know it's an 556 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: old school mentality, I still believe that it does. So 557 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna make the difference of what this team does. 558 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: But I think as it's constructed right now, because the 559 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: NFC East is such a disaster normally is I mean, 560 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: you look at the Eagles disaster, the Giants rebuilding Washington 561 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: football team. We have no idea what's going on with 562 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: that situation. If they even have a quarterback right now. 563 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: So it's open for the Cowboys to take it. They 564 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: should take it. And if that wants to prove everybody 565 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: wrong who says he doesn't deserve this money, he has 566 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: to take it, all right. I'll wrap up with this, Actually, 567 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: um I looked at your Kyrie Irving video. You're currently 568 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: a big Kyrie Irving film. We greatly disagree on this um. 569 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: First of all, uh, you know, he's a New York guy, 570 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: and obviously he's immensely talented. I get that. I need 571 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: you to help me understand how he can abandon his 572 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: team earlier this season, not notify the coach, and how 573 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: that's okay. I maybe I'm missing some of the circumstances. 574 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I know you're friends with Scoop and I've had him 575 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: on UM. A lot of people like to defend Kyrie Irving, 576 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: but in reality, I need to know, like, how how 577 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: that's cool to just walk Like imagine you in a 578 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: relationship with somebody they said, hey, I need some time, 579 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm out, and they just vanished for two weeks and 580 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: then come back like you're taking that person back because 581 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: you know the team mentality. I don't. I don't, I 582 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't understand it. I think it wasn't 583 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: necessary that he took some time off. You know, he 584 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: took some mental health days, which listen, in the society 585 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: that we live in, if you need those days, take them. 586 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: I think that the argument was the amount of days 587 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: that he took and the there wasn't open lines of 588 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: communication with Steve Nash, which I'm not a fan of 589 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, regardless of what 590 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: he's a former player or not, that is still quote 591 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: unquote your boss. That's the leader of your team. You're 592 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: supposed to show a level of respect. I think Kyrie, 593 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: and Kyrie has always marched in the beat of his 594 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: own drum. I don't think that's justifying it. I that 595 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: just is what it is. Um. I don't think that 596 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: the Nets are anything different when they brought him in. 597 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: I think they knew who he was and who he 598 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: was going to be and continue to be. And I 599 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: think Kyrie was able to turn around turn it around. 600 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I have to say, you know, he owns up to 601 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: what he apologized. He said. Look, I just wasn't in 602 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: the space where I could go ahead and contribute to 603 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: this team the way that I want to. I should 604 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: have done it differently. What this is what it was. 605 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: So all you can do is is accept someone's apology 606 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: and hope that you know it doesn't happen again. Very 607 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: forgiving Ashley, see that. So let me ask you the 608 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: last final question, Um, Kevin Duran's gonna come back here, 609 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: and I believe two weeks and it's gonna be Katie 610 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Hardened and Kyrie together. When I look at big threes, 611 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: We've talked about it extensively here, somebody's always had to 612 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: take a step back. Actually, whether it was Bosch, Okay Love, 613 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: um Clay Thompson was like a forgotten man. He was 614 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: just just catch and shoot. That's all you gotta do. 615 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: Um a who takes a step back and be How 616 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: does Kyrie handle it when he's got to be the 617 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: guy who takes a step back. And I'm not a hater, 618 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: just to be clear, I know it might sound like it. 619 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: Just a realist. That's the million dollar question, honestly, Like um, 620 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: I think Kyrie is not gonna like taking a back seat. 621 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: And that was one of my arguments when that whole 622 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: situation happened when James Harden joined the team, was how 623 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: is this gonna work? Because Kevin Durant is already shown, 624 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: first of all, he's the leader of the team and 625 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: he can be an unselfish player if necessary. James Harden 626 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: has shown I think that he can be, but he 627 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: doesn't like to be. He likes to have the ball 628 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: in his hand. He likes to be in control. Kyrie 629 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Irving is not a true point guard. A true point guard, 630 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: their job is to go ahead and move that offense. 631 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: Kyrie likes to shoot, and that's not really his job. 632 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: That's not what he's supposed to do, but he likes 633 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: to do it. One of those two have to take 634 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: the back seat, and I think, just because of how 635 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: the team is constructed and what would be the most successful, 636 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: it has to be Kyrie Irving. Now, if he does it, 637 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a different conversation because Kyrie has 638 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: already shown, even you go back to when he was 639 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: with Lebron, he's not gonna let anybody big brother him. 640 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: If you will, he respects himself and he wants you 641 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: to respect him too, and he's not allowing anybody to 642 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: do anything different. You hear the way that he speaks 643 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: to the media when if this conversation arises, You hear 644 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: the way that he speaks to his teammates, whether it's 645 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: on our I g live. He's just not letting anybody 646 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: big brother him. So the Nets are gonna be in 647 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: a situation as the game continues to slow down, which 648 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: it does as you get closer to the playoffs. They 649 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: can't just consistently rely on these guys fighting for the 650 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: ball and hoping that they put up enough shots before 651 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: the clock runs out and they get to win. That's 652 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: not how you win basketball games, and that's not how 653 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: you win championships. Somebody's gonna be the unselfish person to 654 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: join Katie. I don't know who that's gonna be. So 655 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: that's the billion dollar question. Okay, all right, Ashley Nicole 656 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: Moss you I like to go by all three names. 657 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: That's that's a because Ashley Moss like it's a little 658 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: more common. But anyway, you can follow her on what YouTube, Instagram, Twitter? 659 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: Which which platform do you are you most active on 660 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: with fans and the audience? Um? Probably Twitter and Instagram. YouTube. 661 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: You put up the videos, people comment, but you don't 662 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: really respond to those comments for the most part. But 663 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: on Twitter, if you tweet me and it's nothing like 664 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: out of this world and crazy because people can get 665 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: crazy on Twitter and may get crazy on Instagram. I 666 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: try to respond and keep somewhat of a line of 667 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: communication open because, like I said, the fans are what 668 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: makes sports so special. I'm trying to relate, be as 669 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: relatable as possible, so all right, all right, thanks a 670 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: lot for the time, Ashley, and good luck to your 671 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: knicks in the second half. Thank you.