1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Ruby if you go on the internet. Detoxing is huge 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: and everyone wants to drink. 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: This eth that the best thing you could do with 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: this is actually flush it down the sink, because cleanses 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: and detoxes don't actually work. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 3: Detoxing is something that's become very popular, largely due to 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: social media, which is where a lot of the population 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: now gets their information. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 4: It seems like every few weeks there's a new social 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: media trend on how to detoxify your body. 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you've been. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: Tempted by one. Maybe you've tried one. Juice, cleanses, detox supplements, teas, saunas, 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: and fasting. They all promise more energy, quick weight loss, 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: and relief from things like brain fog or fatigue. And 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 4: who doesn't want those things? I mean, right now, I 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: have monosaccharides, dihydrogen monoxides, deoxyribonucleic acids one three seven, trimethyl xanthenes, 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: bilo keinoe all up in my body, and they're all 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: chemicals and they're all well actually completely essential for life. 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: You know. Those are the chemical names for glucose, water, DNA, caffeine, 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: and vitamin k okay. Strictly speaking, Caffeine's not essential for life, 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 4: but it's pretty important for me personally. The thing is, 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: when we read long, unfamiliar chemical names on household products, 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: personal care items like lotions and makeup, even plastic used 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 4: in our water bottles, it can be overwhelming and even 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: a little alarming. There's no surprise that many people turn 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: to detoxification in an attempt to try and rest a 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: little control over what goes in and comes out of 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: their bodies. This push to clear things out and start 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: fresh has even become a popular way of saving people 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: from well themselves a little late night of drinking, or 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: a work trip that turned into a fast food tour, 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: or simply a decadently indulgent vacation. Plenty of people are 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: turning to detox trends to find a quick and easy 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: reset button when life gets a little out of hand. 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: But is that what they're really doing? Are we really resetting? 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: Are we really detoxing? Not everyone is convinced detoxing is 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 4: the answer to these concerns. Steve Lutzk, a fitness influencer 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: known as Dad Bod, thinks these cleanses are frankly a 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: bunch of bulls. 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: We have all kinds of quacks online toting their magic 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: cures that I wish they were true. More than anything, 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: I wish there was something magic you could take that 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: solved all of the health and nutrition problems that this 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: country is facing, and sadly that's not the case. 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 4: While wellness influencers like Mina Adams say detoxes and cleanses 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: are a healthy part of everyday life, although her approach 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: might surprise. 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: You, we all feel like crap, but the way we 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: feel is from years of not taking care of ourselves 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: and for me holding this sign just take better care 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: of yourself. You're like, lady, shut up, what are you 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: talking about. We're trying to drink this and feel better. 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Buy tomorrow. 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: And of course, doctors have plenty to say about the 55 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: evidence behind some of the most viral social media claims 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: around detoxing. David Puro, a gastor entrologist from hunting To 57 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: New York and the vice president for the Department of 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: Medicine Service Line of north Well Health's Eastern market, joins 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: us to set the record straight. 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: My general feeling about most of the things that we 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: see online is that we have to be careful. So 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: detoxing in the medical world usually means when we have 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: someone who has taken an overdose of something, we need 64 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: to detoxify them. But what it really means in the 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: world now is something very different, whether it's via influencers 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: or throughout various different platforms ways to detoxify what's coming 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: into our bodies. 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Health Versus Hype with the American Medical Association. 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: I'm your host. Trace to me a guest. Today, we're 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: answering questions about detoxes and cleanses. What does it really 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: mean to detox What are we all detoxing from? Does 72 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: detoxing actually remove anything from our bodies? Join me as 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: we find out whether detoxing is all health or just hype. 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: People have been relying on different kinds of detoxes to 75 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: improve their health for centuries. In fact, its modern popularity 76 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: goes all the way back to the nineteen twenties and thirties. 77 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: Back then, detox diets were promoted as a cure for 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 4: everything from migraines to tuberculosis to cancer. The widespread popularity 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 4: of detoxing rebounded in the early two thousands as trendy 80 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 4: cleanses and diets were featured in hit books and endorsed 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: by celebrities with such a long history in our culture, 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: it's no wonder our current social media environment has poured 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: fuel on the detox fire. These days, it feels like 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 4: there's a detox diet for every bad feeling in a 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: person's life, from being hungover to feeling bloated, to feeling 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: like your metabolism just needs a little fix. Of course, 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: not every social media influencer has bought into this hype. 88 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: Steve Lutsk, the Dadbod fitness coach, believes these detox trends 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 4: only serve to confuse and distract people from much healthier 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: hea habits. 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: I think people like the idea of a quick fix, 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: and I think there are some bad apples out there 93 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: who want to take advantage of people who you know 94 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: that they don't have time to study nutrition all day. 95 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: They get a lot of their nutritional information from social media. 96 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: Maybe they heard that their favorite celebrity took a cleanse 97 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: and that's responsible for making them look as good as 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: they did. And as long as there are I hate 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: to say it, but gulble or misinformed people, there's always 100 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: going to be people who take advantage of that and 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: have something to sell. They want to tap into that 102 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: bank account, and they want to take advantage of people 103 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: who think that if I just do this detox diet 104 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: for three days, it's going to give me a kickstart. 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: It's going to cleanse me of all of the toxins 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: that have accumulated in my body. 107 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: Steve is right, detoxing products are big business. Last year, 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: the worldwide market for the detoxification industry was over seventy 109 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: one billion dollars. Considering the average detox or cleanse product 110 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: costs around thirty dollars, that would be like two and 111 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: a half billion detox products sold just last year, and 112 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: it's only going to grow from there. Some estimates show 113 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: this market reaching more than one hundred and twenty billion 114 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: dollars annually by twenty thirty four. In other words, the 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: detox market could rival the GDP of Venezuela. That's a 116 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: lot of money spent on detox pills and diet plants. 117 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: Like Steve said, most people don't want to spend the 118 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: time or the energy to get better slowly. Instead, the 119 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: detox industry promises getting something, anything done quickly. Perhaps nobody 120 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 4: knows this better than Mina Adams, a wellness influencer who 121 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: tries to convince her followers to slow down and take 122 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: their time getting healthy. Here's Mina's take on detoxes and cleanses. 123 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 5: Most people tried to do the quick fix. Right. 124 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: If you drink this, it will solve all your problems. 125 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: And as a mother of five without money to waste, 126 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: like I don't have money or time to I'm just 127 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: trying to get people to go through their process that 128 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: I went through, and that's understanding. Oh wow, if I 129 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: take care of my body, my body will take care 130 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: of me. It's very simple. We want big drama. We 131 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: want to buy this and buy that and buy this, 132 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: But don't buy anything yet until you learn how to 133 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: show up for yourself, until you learn how to be 134 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: very intentional about what you feed, it about what you use, 135 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: and you're focusing more on how your body feels and 136 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: functions versus how it looks. 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: The detox market strives on this idea of a quick fix. 138 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: It translates a complicated goal like being healthy into a 139 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: solution that feels fast and simple. It tells us that 140 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: we don't need all this time to get healthy. We 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: just need to take this pill or drink this tea 142 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: and then voila, the nebulus toxin that was holding you 143 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: back is gone. It's cleansed. That's the essence of quick 144 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: fix culture. Of course, as we've learned through our previous episode, 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: staying healthy is complex and takes time. There are few, 146 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: if any quick fixes when it comes to being healthy. 147 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: Mina says, these products, the liver detox is, the gut cleanses, 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: and full body reset drinks are almost too much to 149 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: keep up with. 150 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: I would love to start doing, you know, let's split 151 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: screen videos where I show someone marketing a detox method 152 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: or product and I say, well, actually, you know, it 153 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: doesn't quite work like that. 154 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 5: I scroll on only. 155 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: Because I realize that people hear what they want to hear, 156 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: and people relate to what they feel is the right thing. 157 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: And so if I tell you exactly what you want 158 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: to hear, then you're going to share that video, save 159 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: and you're going to do. 160 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 5: Exactly what that person said do. So, if that person is. 161 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Telling you all you have to do this one thing, 162 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: this one thing, you like that message and you're going 163 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: to listen to that message and you're going to apply 164 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: it and you're going to promote it. But people who've 165 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: been following me for a long time know that I 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: mostly preach lifestyle. Let's change the way we think about 167 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: the things that we are putting on our bodies. Let's 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: question it, let's look it up ourselves. Let's make whatever 169 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: changes are possible in this season of life. You don't 170 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: have to change everything, just change one thing. Should probably start, 171 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, being a little bit more disruptive on the internet. 172 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: I think that I'm not willing to do what it 173 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: takes to continue to be relevant on social media. You know, 174 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: on social media, you have three seconds to get someone's attention, 175 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: and then you have an additional five to convince them 176 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: to listen, right, and mostly no one's going to make 177 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: it to the end of the video. I have a 178 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: very balanced approach to life. And it's not what we 179 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: do every now and again that makes us feel the 180 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: way we do. It's what we are doing regularly. Because 181 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: those same people who'll take a drastic detox approach won't 182 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: focus on what they're doing every day, and that's the problem. 183 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll like jump into something and take a cleanse 184 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: for a week, yeah. 185 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: And then go right back to eating the junk. And 186 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: what you did was you wasted time and money. They're like, 187 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I thought we were on Celery juice 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: and and be juice. That was amazing. And then you 189 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: come right back in with the junk. And then they're 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: just like, oh, I guess we have to work again. 191 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: What do you think people are looking for when they 192 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: turn to a detox, physical results something else. 193 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: I think that most people are looking for the physical. 194 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: They're looking to change the way that they look like. 195 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: They're convinced that the reason why they have stubborn belly 196 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: fat is because they need to detox. They're thinking that 197 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: their skin looks the way it is. It's spotty, it's 198 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: not smooth. Their pores are huge, just because they need 199 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: to detox. So I think their original reason why people 200 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: come to detoxing is because of the way that they look. 201 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: I think once you've kind of been in the wellness 202 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: field a little longer, you're it's more about how you feel. 203 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: You start to recognize, Okay, I've been eating like crap, 204 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: and now my body feels like this. It's time for 205 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: me to take a break and change some things up. 206 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I think we all feel like crap and we want 207 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: to feel better fast, and that's where the word comes detox. 208 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: You need to detox. 209 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: Our detox Doubter Steve has a similar take on why 210 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: detoxing is so enticing to so many people. 211 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people will come off of 212 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: a bad weekend where maybe they indulged a little bit, 213 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: maybe they drank a little bit too much. Then Monday 214 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: comes around and they're like, all right. 215 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: This is it. 216 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: I feel terrible right now. I feel like crap. I 217 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: had too much pizza and pasta and I drank a 218 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: case of beer. I know I need to lose the weight, 219 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna kick it off the right way. I'm 220 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: gonna get rid of all these toxins. I'm gonna flush 221 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: out everything I did on the weekend, and then that's 222 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: gonna set me out for long term success. I just 223 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: need to cancel out this weekend. Then that's when I'm 224 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: gonna start eating healthy. I'm gonna start going to the 225 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: gym six days a week, and I'm gonna do a 226 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: ton of cardio to sweat out all of the badness. 227 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: So this is gonna be the big kickoff that's gonna work, 228 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: and this time I'm gonna stick to it. 229 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: At this point, you may be like trace, are any 230 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: of these detox trends worth following. We're gonna get to 231 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: the science in a minute, but first Mina has one 232 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: last thought about how she thinks about detoxing and her 233 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,479 Speaker 4: own health. 234 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: Before I go asking how could on detox? I have 235 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: to look in word? Okay, what am I doing? Can 236 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: I identify a lease three ways that my body detox 237 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: is and ways to support that I look inward, I 238 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: tell myself in order to stay on the internet, I 239 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: have to stay off the Internet. And it's not really 240 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: it's fully social media because if you go on social media, 241 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, this man told me that 242 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: I can you know, I can rind my body of 243 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: all mucus in twenty four hours with this supplement that 244 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: I have to pay just ninety nine dollars for. It's 245 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: just like and I promise if my message was more 246 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: dramatic like that, I would have millions of followers and 247 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: make millions of dollars. But I cannot sleep at night, 248 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, trying to sell someone something that their body 249 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: already does naturally. 250 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: All right, I think it's time to bring in our 251 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,239 Speaker 4: medical expert. Doctor David Piro has been a gastro enterroologist 252 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: for more than twenty years, and this is what he 253 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: has to say about the view of detoxing from the 254 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: medical side of things. 255 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 3: So, detoxify from our perspective is if someone shows up 256 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: in the emergency room with an overdose of something that 257 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: we may need to detoxify what they've done. That is 258 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: not how it's typically spoken of online and in the 259 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: general world. It's basically in that sense, the people trying 260 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: to detoxify are trying to remove sub substances that are 261 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: getting into our bodies. 262 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So when people talk about toxins that they're trying 263 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: to detox what are they usually referring to. 264 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's a lot of different substances with a 265 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: lot of different fancy letters. So there's the pfas, the 266 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: polyfloralkal substances, there's the BPA's the best phenales, and those 267 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: are basically different substances that are present in things that 268 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: we can come in contact with. So, whether it's you know, 269 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: water bottles, people talking about microplastics, which you're going to 270 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: have both some of the pfas and the BPAs in 271 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: addition to you know, the nonstick coding on pans that 272 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: we use. 273 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: Why is it about detoxing that you think has made 274 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 4: it become so popular. 275 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a few different things that contribute 276 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: to it. I think it's a lot of people fear 277 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: a lack of control, and as a result of this, 278 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: this is the way of them trying to make sense 279 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: of the world and try to take control over their 280 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: own body bodies. So by actively doing something, I'm going 281 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: to detoxify things. Therefore I'm going to feel better. I 282 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: think is absolutely one of the reasons that it's you know, 283 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: detoxifying has become so popular. In addition, I think that 284 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,239 Speaker 3: there's a significant placebo effects, So just by buying into 285 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: whatever they're trying, they're going to see some improvements. And 286 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: in general, also, I think as the world has evolved, 287 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot more environmental anxiety. So I think that, 288 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: you know, the generations now feel very different than we 289 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: did in the past. When I grew up, you know, 290 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: I would have during high school, I would have, you know, 291 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: twinkies and a wine punch for breakfast, just because I could. 292 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: Now my son would be horrified, as much as you 293 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: love twinkies to consider that because of you know, the die. 294 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: So I think there's more of a general awareness of 295 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: what's out there and the effects that it may have 296 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: in our body. And when you start looking and again, 297 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: there are going to be things that we find and 298 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: a lot of household you know, regular household use appliances, 299 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: deodorant may have something in there. So I've heard that 300 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: some younger people don't want to use certain deodorants because 301 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: they have certain substances there that could be harmful to someone. 302 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: They could be harmful to someone in much higher concentrations 303 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: than their bodies are ever going to see. The other 304 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: thing I think is that we get a lot of 305 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: our information now from social media. I think there's some 306 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: general medical distrust that was really probably exacerbated by everything 307 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: that happened with COVID in our country. So as a result, 308 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: people are trying to seek information elsewhere. And it's not 309 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: just the younger generation. I think we absolutely have people 310 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: who are getting information online, whether it's from Google. Searchers 311 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: are using AI now, whether it's you know, Chat, GBT 312 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: or Gemini, in addition to you know, TikTok and Instagram. 313 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: That's where we consume a lot of our information. And 314 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: when we hear and see things there, there's a tendency 315 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: say well, maybe there is something to that. So I 316 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: think the people that have taken advantage that the detoxifying 317 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: movement are really feeding on the fact that there's a 318 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: lot of anxiety in the world. That's a way of 319 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: ore taken control of our own bodies to maybe help 320 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: make some sense and make us feel better. 321 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, what are some of the medical issues when people 322 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: come in that they're trying to solve with a detox regimen. 323 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: So, you know, fatigue is a major one brain fog. 324 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: You know, as a guest neurologist, we're seeing a lot 325 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: of bloating. Bloating is a really common common symptom and 326 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: probably the most frustrating symptom for gas neurologists and other 327 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: physicians to treat. There were so many various things that 328 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: can lead to it, and there's actually no prescription medication 329 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: to treat it. You know, a lot of bloating is 330 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: you know, the term we like to use in medicine 331 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: is multifactory. A lot of different things can lead to it. 332 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: You know, there can be disruptions of the microbiome, which 333 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: is you know, the bacterian organisms that live with us 334 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: that help with our own digestion. You know, diet can 335 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: absolutely play a role. So, you know, bloating is definitely 336 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: a symptom people trying to get a handle on, but 337 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: I'd say more commonly it's going to be fatigue and 338 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: brain fog, and there's a lot of different other reasons 339 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: for that other than really needing to detoxify. 340 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: Okay, doctor Piro, I want to play you a few 341 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: clips from one of the social media influencers I spoke with. 342 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 4: I want to get your gut reaction. Mina Adams had 343 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: an interesting way of describing how she thinks about detoxing. 344 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: Here's the clip. 345 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: You have your kidneys, you have your liver, you have 346 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: your skin, you have your lungs, and so like when 347 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: people say, well how do you detox, Well, I'm like, well, 348 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: technically taking you know, a few deep breaths is helping 349 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: to support a detox pathway because your lungs. How often 350 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: do we intentionally do that? So if you go to 351 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: the bathroom, that is your your body releasing waste through 352 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: your urine through your bowels. Right when you sweat, that 353 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: is your body releasing waste through your skin. But how 354 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: often are we being intentional about sweating? Right? I mean, 355 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: your body is literally made to, you know, work efficiently, 356 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: but our diets, our lack of movement, the you know, 357 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: the loads and loads of skincare and hair care products 358 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: that we load on our bodies. It puts a heavy 359 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: load on our detox pathways, and we need to try 360 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: our best to release that as much as possible. I'm 361 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: just asking myself, how am I supporting my detox pathways today? 362 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 5: What does my lungs need? What do they love? 363 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: Oh? 364 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: They love a good deep breath. Okay, let me do that. 365 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: Water helps me flesh out toxins through my urine. It's 366 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: like what, I'm just trying to support my detox pathways. 367 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: So sweating is a way that your body releases waste. 368 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: If you go into asana and you sweat for forty minutes, congratulations, 369 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: that is a quote unquote detox. You are supporting one 370 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: of your detox pathways. If you haven't had a bowel 371 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: movement in days and you drink celery juice and it 372 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: forces everything out of you, then congratulations, you have just detox. 373 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: I think anything that supports a detox pathway is a detox. 374 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 4: So she's talking about detox pathways in like these are 375 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 4: ways to help detoxify your body or work with your 376 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 4: body to do it. So what's your reaction to what 377 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: Mina shared there? 378 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's absolutely right, and I think what 379 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: she's trying to do is augment or be more focused 380 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 3: on the natural ways to detoxify things. So any benefit 381 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: that anyone sees from their other regimens are because they're 382 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: basically pigging backing on what the body's doing. What Mea 383 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: is talking about is focusing on what those are and 384 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: trying to augment them as best we can without necessarily 385 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: doing any specific detoxification. So we're focusing more on sleeping, 386 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: if we're focusing more on trying to sweat, if we're 387 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: focusing on being hydrating or eating well, all these things 388 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: are going to help augment the kidney, deliver the lungs, 389 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: the brain, and the skin, which are our ways of 390 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: natural ways of detoxifying things. So, you know, the detoxic pathway. 391 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: She's just talking about what our bodies are ready doing 392 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: and how to maximize that. 393 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: Is there a term in medicine or like clinical sense 394 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: for a detox pathway? 395 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: Nope, other than elimination. 396 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because this is a term I hadn't heard 397 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: before either, but it's a term that she uses pretty 398 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: regularly in her content as like, thinking about all these 399 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: different ways that your body is going to detoxify. 400 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: I think it's smart. And again, because of how you know, 401 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: detoxifying it has become so popular. Which she's basically doing 402 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: is saying a lot of stuff similar to what I'm saying, 403 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: but saying in a different way. And I think by 404 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: using the detox and the pathway, it's going to resonate 405 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: with some people in the public and then basically have 406 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: them understand a little bit more about how their bodies work, 407 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: and therefore they might be more likely to do that 408 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: and less likely to do some of the potentially harmful 409 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: detox regimens that you know that we hear and see about. 410 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes it seems, and this is sort of an aside, 411 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: but sometimes it seems. It's like when we say things like, oh, 412 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: you just need to get good sleep, you need to 413 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 4: drink your water, you need to you know, take care 414 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 4: of your body, have a good diet, regular exercise, people 415 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: just kind of brush it off and say, but there's 416 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: got to be a juice I can drink. There's got 417 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: to be a pill I can take. That's going to 418 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 4: make all this easier. 419 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: Yep. 420 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: And that's kind of I think the quick fix control 421 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: that we were kind of talking about it, you know 422 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 3: earlier they're saying, well, well, that's a lifestyle change. I 423 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: just want to quick fix. I feel like crap, I'm 424 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: exhausted all the time, and I brain what can I 425 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: do to fix that? And certainly, you know, in this 426 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: day and age, you can go online and find twelve 427 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: different ways to do that very very quickly, and it's bought. 428 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: It's just not needed, got it, nor is it going 429 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: to be effective. 430 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 4: Let's do another clip from Mina. This one is a 431 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: little bit about what we're talking about here, which is 432 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: detoxing is kind of a quick fix. 433 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to feel better quickly, and they want to 434 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: know what is that one thing, that one thing that 435 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: can help me. 436 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: Feel better fast? 437 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: And so that's the question I get all the time, 438 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: and I have to leave them a nice little voice 439 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: note and say, first of all, let's dial it back and. 440 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: Let's look at what you are doing. What are you 441 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: doing daily? 442 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: And then once I point to okay, well it's your 443 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: lack of movement, it's the food that you're eating, it's 444 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: the fact that you're either not eating or you're eating fast. 445 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: You're not supporting your body. And of course there's crickets 446 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: after that because I'm not pointing to the one thing. 447 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm requiring you to support your body in a way 448 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: that it feels supported. 449 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: Yes, so I agree. We do get asked for how 450 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: do I fix this or how can I fix this quickly? 451 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: And there's not one thing. I think it's a combination 452 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: of a lot of things that you know, MENA seems 453 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: to promote and that you know, we've discussed earlier. Sometimes 454 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: we may need to try various things. It's not easy 455 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 3: to sleep more, it's not easy ness, say, to exercise more, 456 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: to change our diet or our habits. So I think 457 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: it's really an investment in doing so. And some people 458 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 3: don't want to make the investment that that requires. And 459 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons that some of these detoxifying 460 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: you know methods have become so popular. 461 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they either don't want to, they're not able to, 462 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: they don't see a way to do it within the 463 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 4: lifestyle they have. 464 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, and then there's time, you know, 465 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: and you know, is there enough time to exercise. I'm 466 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: too busy. I'm too busy to do it, so let 467 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: me just do something that's quick. 468 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got one more clip from Mina. This one's 469 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: about toxins and for her what they mean. 470 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: So for me, detoxing is just to cleanse, just to 471 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: get rid of. Probably the most popular, well known talks 472 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: in that people are exposed to daily is heavy metals. 473 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: Heavy metals are in pretty much everything, so. 474 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: I think we certainly hear about heavy metals. While they are, 475 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: you know, somewhat omnipresent, the concentrations amount that our bodies 476 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: are exposed to are very limited, and the body is 477 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: very good at getting rid of heavy metals, So you know, 478 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: I certainly heavy metals I think are something we hear about. 479 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: And again we're hearing more and more about the BPAs 480 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: as well, So those are the toxins I think people 481 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: are most concerned when they come to me about. I'm 482 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: actually probably hearing a little bit less about heavy metals 483 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: and then more about some of the other ones because 484 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: of the fact that we know, keep talking hearing about microplastics. 485 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: That's what we're hearing about, the microplastics everywhere, and those 486 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: are the ones that are going in the water bottles 487 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: and the nonstick pans that have gotten you know, a 488 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: lot of press over the last year or two. 489 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: We've hinted at this throughout the episode, but I think 490 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: this is a good place to really break down our 491 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 4: body's role in detoxing some of these things we've been 492 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 4: talking about, you know, the heavy metals, microplastics, forever chemicals 493 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: like BPA or bispinal a. Mina says it took her 494 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: time to realize that our bodies are capable of removing 495 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: these unwanted toxins through natural processes. Here's the advice that 496 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 4: she would give her younger self, based on what she 497 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: knows now. 498 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: I would tell myself to figure out what my body 499 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: needs and am I giving my body what it needs daily? 500 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: I would go so simple, how does my body detox? 501 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: Would I be on Earth without a detoxing process already 502 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: built in? 503 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: Right? 504 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think I would be here if 505 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: if my body didn't detox on its own. If everyone 506 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: needed a manual detox button that they had to go 507 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: and get, they had to go, and do you know, 508 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: we would be in a world of trouble. So, how 509 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: does my body detox? On its own, and am I 510 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: helping or hurting that process? That that's where I will start, 511 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: and I would just stay focused there. I wouldn't need big, 512 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: drastic detox methods if I supported my body regularly. 513 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: And doctor Puro confirms this for us. 514 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: Different objects that we come in contact with are going 515 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: to have small amounts of of what some people are 516 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: going to label our toxins. 517 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and are those actually toxins? Would medicine say that 518 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 4: this is a toxin? 519 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: There are going to be studies that for all of 520 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: those that show that very very high concentrations of those 521 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: might have the potential to have deleterious effects on the 522 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: human body. However, the amounts that are really present in 523 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: most people, or the amount they're able to get from 524 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: water bottles, etc. Are really very very small because of 525 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: the natural ways of the fence that we have to 526 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: detoxify things that are coming into our body. 527 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and just for maybe people don't know what are 528 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: those ways that our body is detoxing itself. 529 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the main ways are going to be through 530 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 3: the liver, the kidney, the skin, the lungs, and even 531 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: newer research actually shows the brain can basically have mechanisms 532 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: via which to get rid of what we'll call metabolic waste, 533 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: where essentially the brain can flush out some byproducts of 534 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: reactions that can be considered metabolic waste. And interestingly, this 535 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: is most active when we sleep cool. 536 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: What do you think about this like detoxing trend generally 537 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: that you see online? 538 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: So, what I would say is that my general feeling 539 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: about most of the things that we see online is 540 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: that we have to be careful. A lot of the 541 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 3: things that are being promoted online or via social media, 542 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 3: there are no studies that demonstrate their efficacy. Now, there 543 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: is still a chance that those are effective in work, 544 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: but the concern is is that without those being well 545 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: regulated or well studied, is there any potential to doing 546 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: harm by doing some of these ingesting certain substances or 547 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: using various methods to try to detoxify or to gain 548 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: other benefits. 549 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like some of these detox programs circulating claim to 550 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: improve your energy, make your skin better, make your digestion better. 551 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: Is that kind of stuff exaggerated? What does the evidence say? 552 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 3: So? Really, what's interesting is is that the various ways 553 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: that are being promoted to detoxify probably do actually help 554 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: our bodies. But they're not doing it via directly detoxifying 555 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: things as they are promoted to do. The main manner 556 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: in which they're effective is they probably support our natural 557 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: methods for detoxifying things. So, for example, I mentioned sleep earlier, 558 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: So if someone isn't sleeping well, they may get brain fog. 559 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: If they just sleep better, they might have less brain 560 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 3: fog as opposed to ingesting something that's going to get 561 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: rid of their brain fog. And some of the other 562 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: things they are going to be whether it's improving hydration, 563 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: eating better, and making healthier choices in addition to exercising, 564 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: all of those things are going to be helping to 565 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: promote our natural barriers and our natural ability to detoxify things. 566 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: So some of the detoxifying regimens are helpful, but not 567 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: for the reasons that they're proclaiming they will augment our 568 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 3: own natural ways to detoxify things than really ever actually 569 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: detoxifying subset themselves as they proclaim to do. 570 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're saying potentially that people could feel better 571 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: on a detox for reasons unrelated to removing toxins. 572 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely correct, and it's smarter the people that are promoting 573 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: them because they can be affected people absolutely could feel better. 574 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: The concern, as I mentioned a little bit earlier, is 575 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: that people are ingesting certain things that have the potential 576 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 3: to cause harm. And that is something that we'll see 577 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: when people are trying to whether it's detoxify or do 578 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: these cleanses where they're eliminating parasites, etc. That likely don't 579 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: need to happen at all. 580 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 4: Ah, Yes, the parasite cleanse. Let's just touch on this 581 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: for a minute. If you're not familiar with these social 582 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: media promoted parasite cleanses, there are kind of detox that's 583 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: meant to rid your body of parasites, you know, little 584 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: organisms that survive by making themselves at home in your gut. 585 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: Online influencers promote commercial products and homemade detox concoctions with 586 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: things like wormwood, black walnut, clove, apple cider, or vinegar. 587 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: Medical experts warned there is little to know scientific evidence 588 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: that these general over the counter cleanses or home remedies 589 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: are effective or even necessary at all. It's true that 590 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: some parasites can get into your gut, like giardia or tapeworms. 591 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: That's rare, and it would require you to go see 592 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 4: a doctor for treatment. Detox products are classified as supplements, 593 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: typically which are not approved by the FDA or often 594 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 4: studied in clinical trials, and they have even been known 595 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: to cause side effects like diarrhea or dehydration. Doctor Puro 596 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: explains the risk of trying any detox. 597 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So some of the things that are potentially concerning 598 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: are dehydration would be one. An additional one would be 599 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 3: to cause other issues with nutritional deficiencies. So these are 600 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: some of the things that might be concerned about. Is 601 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: and are they ingesting higher levels of other things that 602 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: actually could become toxic in and of themselves. So those 603 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: are the things that I would be most concerned about, 604 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: would be dehydration, detoxifying things, and then other nutritional deficiencies. 605 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: Are there people that should just like avoid these trends 606 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: altogether or are these detoxification programs or whatever they're called. 607 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say anything with any significant chronic medical 608 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: illness should absolutely avoid them. And then because pregnancy has 609 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: a lot of changes the body, it is something that 610 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: I would discourage in someone that's pregnant because of the 611 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: potential that if there is someone that gets a little 612 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: dehydrated while they're pregnant. Through our ramifications. So I would say, 613 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: you know, again pregnancy, people with other chronic medical issues, 614 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: and I think as people age, in addition, their bodies 615 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: may not handle certain things as well as they would 616 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: when they were a little bit younger. 617 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: A lot of the messaging around these detoxes focuses on 618 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: quote unquote resetting the body. Does that concept exist in 619 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: the world of medical science. 620 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't, you know, as I guess neurologists, how 621 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: a lot of people say I'm going to go do 622 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: a cleanse. You know, I got to in and there 623 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: was some you know, radio commercials saying that you know, 624 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: there's stool content stuck in our testines like speckle and paste, 625 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: and if we don't get rid of them, they're going 626 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: to be stuck in there forever. Our bodies are pretty 627 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: darn effective at get ridding that stuff. And this is 628 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: someone who is frequently who spends you know, several days 629 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: a week, you know, literally inside people's and testines with 630 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: a scope. There's not spakle and paste in there. Regardless 631 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: of what we hear online. 632 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: When a patient comes to you and they said I 633 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 4: would like to do a cleanse, I'd like to do 634 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: a detox. How would you guide that conversation. 635 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what I think is really important. I trained 636 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: in traditional Western medicine. I'm not arrogant enough to think 637 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: that I know everything, or that we in Western medicine 638 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: know everything. There's a lot to be said for Eastern medicine. 639 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: So a lot of these herbal remedies that have been 640 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: used for hundreds thousands of years. In fact, there are 641 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: some larger major health systems that partner with Eastern medicine, 642 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: and you can get some of these herbal remedies in 643 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: a more standardized, regulated well way. So I'm open to considering, 644 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: you know, other treatments alternatively. So, you know, if I 645 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: roll my eyes when someone causes something, regardless of whether 646 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: I think about it, I've lost that person as a patient. 647 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: And that's not someone who's gonna, you know, see me 648 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: as an authority. You see me as someone they really 649 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: want to work with. I think the doctor patient relationship 650 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: has really evolved over the years. So for me, regardless 651 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: of whether I think it's something that makes sense or not, 652 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's always important to engage the 653 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 3: patient and say, look, let's talk through this. What are 654 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: we trying to accomplish what's the goal for which we're 655 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: trying to accomplish here, and what's the problem for which 656 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: we're trying to solve. And then when they you know, 657 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: kind of meet them halfway and say, okay, well let's 658 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: talk through that a little bit. Why did you find 659 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: this one? And what I'll say is, look, I don't 660 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: know whether it's going to work or not, so let's 661 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: talk through it and say, look, let me know what 662 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: you want to do, and let me do my own 663 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: independent research, and I'll let you know whether I think 664 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: it's something that makes sense or not. If it's you know, 665 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: not something they think that can lead to dehydration, nutritional deficiencies, 666 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: or other potential bad outcomes of doing it, then it's 667 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: something I would say, you know, maybe we consider. But 668 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: if it's very high concentrations of certain substance or whatever 669 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: it is, that as the potential across harmed about it 670 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: and say, look, I'm a little nervous about it. And 671 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: when I have the conversation with patients meeting them one 672 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: on one, I'm not belittling anything that they're considering. Then 673 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: they'll say, all right, you know what I think that 674 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: makes sense? 675 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: What are the warning signs? That a detox regimen is 676 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: going to be harmful. 677 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: Right, So you know, if you start to feel worse 678 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: during a detox, then something's probably wrong. There are some 679 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: people that say you should feel worse now, you shouldn't 680 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: really feel worse when you're doing a detox. That might 681 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: be an indicator that something's wrong. So again, whether they're 682 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: in saying and what do I mean by feeling differently? 683 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: If you see increase fatigue, then you may not be 684 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: getting some of the nutrients that you need. If you're 685 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 3: feeling more dehydrated or more tired, then you're probably doing 686 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: something to your body that you're not getting enough rest 687 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: or not getting enough fluids. 688 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So we have some common online claims that we 689 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: want to address and just have you do like a 690 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 4: true or false kind of situation. 691 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: Okay, do I need to give you either a true 692 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: or false or can I waffle? 693 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: You could waffle if you want, if it makes sense 694 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 4: to you, I just might ask you to explain why 695 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 4: you're waffle. 696 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, if I waffle, I'll explain. 697 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: I think that's fair. Okay, Okay. 698 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 4: Detoxing helps your body quote flesh out toxins. 699 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: So this is on which I'm gonna waffle because it's 700 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 3: neither true nor false. It's both true and false, meaning 701 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: that it's not truly detoxifying itself, but does augment that 702 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: we're not ability to detoxify substances. 703 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: Right, true or false. Juice cleanses give your digestive system 704 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: a beneficial reset. 705 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with false on this one. 706 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: Detox teas and supplements actually remove harmful substances from. 707 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: Your body wholeheartedly, emphatically false in fact, could be harmful. 708 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: Ooh, we're coming back around from false. 709 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: Let's go. 710 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, feeling better during a detox means that it's working false, 711 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 4: and feeling worse during a detox means it's working false, 712 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: So you don't feel better or worse. 713 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 3: So again, you know, I think maybe you can waffle 714 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: on the first one, because again, some people will feel 715 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: better during certain detoxes, but it's not that they're truly detoxifying. 716 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: So people might feel better, but it doesn't, but it's 717 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: not because of the detox. It's that they're taking other steps, 718 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 3: meaning exercises, sleeping, you know, maintaining hydration, etc. Which will 719 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: all help augment our natural responses to detoxify. 720 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, true or false. Most people need to do a 721 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 4: detox to stay healthy completely false, true or false. Eliminating 722 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: toxins will alleviate fatigue and brain fog false true or false. 723 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 4: Supporting detoxification reduces inflammation and can lead to clearer, more 724 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 4: radiant skin. 725 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean by support I'm going to waffle on that 726 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: one and say fru or talse and say that if 727 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: we augmant that our natural bodies response to getting rid 728 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: of toxins, then that could help, but not from the 729 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: way of thinking that truly detoxifying is going to help 730 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: our skin. 731 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay. Last one, true or false. Toxins are often 732 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 4: stored in fat, and reducing them may assist in releasing 733 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 4: excess fat and reducing bloating. 734 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: This one is both true and false because it's a 735 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 3: multi part question. So toxins can be stored in fat. However, 736 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: reducing them is not going to help us lose the 737 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 3: fat or weight. 738 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. So when you hear influencers talking about detoxing online, 739 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: what do you think that they're getting right and what 740 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: do you think that they might be misunderstanding or misrepresenting? 741 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 3: So what I Yeah, what I would say they're misrepresenting 742 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: is that what they're doing is going to be directly 743 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 3: detoxifying thing. It's not like they're going to be doing 744 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: this and it's going to be doing anything to specifically 745 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 3: remove the toxins. What they're getting right is they're piggabyy 746 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: packing on some of the stuff that Nina was saying 747 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 3: in that by doing this, they're going to naturally be 748 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 3: augmenting some version or multiple versions of our bodies to detoxify. 749 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 3: Whether they're going to be helping our liver and kidneys, 750 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: or our braines, or our lungs or skin. A lot 751 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: of the detoxifying regimens have something to do to help 752 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: one of those natural ways to do it. So that's 753 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: what they're getting right. If they're helping people focus on hydration, sleep, exercise, 754 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 3: those things are beneficial. What they're misrepresenting is that any 755 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 3: of the regimens they're doing are really needed to directly 756 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: to detoxify anything at all. 757 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. I just had this image of somebody who's like, 758 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 4: I'm going to sell you this bottle of amazing car 759 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: wash fluid, and what you do is, right before you 760 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: go in the car wash, just spray a little bit 761 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 4: on your car. It'll come out perfect. 762 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: That's a very very very good analogy. Yes you can 763 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: keep that. No, I may use that trace man, that's 764 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 3: a dude. That's good. 765 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 766 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 4: So I have one more thing for you, and that's 767 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: How concerned should the average person be about toxins in 768 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 4: our body? 769 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: Minimally so, because, as I said, our bodies have a 770 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 3: lot of natural ways to help someone that's not necessarily 771 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: taking good care of themselves. Maybe it slightly increased risk, 772 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 3: but even then I think their chance of have anything 773 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 3: significant happen as a result of the toxins are very 774 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: very limited and minimal. We have enough to worry about 775 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 3: in our crazy world without overworrying about what we're doing 776 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 3: to our bodies or being exposed to is going to 777 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 3: hurt us. Not to say that we shouldn't try all 778 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: to eat well, sleep well, exercise, but I don't feel 779 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: that people need to be concerned that we're living in 780 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 3: a world of toxins that are all out to get us, 781 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: and they give us cancer and put us into an 782 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: early demise. 783 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 4: Detoxes and cleanses are often marketed as quick fixes for 784 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 4: better health, but the reality is that most fall somewhere 785 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 4: between unnecessary and in some cases potentially harmful. While it 786 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 4: is true that our bodies are exposed to various chemicals 787 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 4: and toxins every day, we already have built in systems 788 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 4: like the liver and kidneys that evolved specifically to remove 789 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 4: toxins from our bodies, and they do this process dreamily effectively. 790 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 4: I mean, if they didn't, we'd never have made it 791 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: far enough to invent podcasts, and we wouldn't be having 792 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 4: this conversation right now. For most people, supporting your natural 793 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 4: systems through consistent, basic healthy habits is far more beneficial 794 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: than relying on trendy detox products. Either way, always check 795 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: with your physician first before trying a detox or a cleanse. 796 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 4: In the end, you're probably just not as toxic as 797 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: you might feel. Sometimes. Please let us know what you 798 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 4: think in the comments. We're curious to hear what you 799 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: have to share. Thanks again to doctor David Puro for 800 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 4: breaking down the science behind detoxes and cleanses, and thanks 801 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 4: again to Mina Adams and Steve Lutsk for sharing their 802 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 4: stories and experiences with us. We are on a roll. 803 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 4: We unraveled yet another popular health trend. 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