1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Spreading the corn. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Ten seconds remaining the just go throw up to the basket. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: Under the basket, it's the droop for the wind. God 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: make Amerracle. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm just it's up the water. Hit that one from 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: the parking lot. Shuck it all at college basketball. 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: It's not the size on the dog in the fight, 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: it's the size of the fight in the dog. 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. I am 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: your host today, Jim Root and I am joined by 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the three men. We have Matthew Cox 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Cli McEwan. We are coming to you live boots on 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: the ground in New Orleans. We are not currently in 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: the arena, but we are about to head to the 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: stadium today and getting there early in the afternoon. Give 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: you some updates on the rims, the floor, everything you 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: could possibly want and maybe a lot of things you 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: don't want. But hey, look, you can't you can't stop us. Comcewan, 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: you're here, You're ready to talk National title game, UNC Kansas. 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm kicking it to you first. What is the biggest 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: thing you're looking at in this matchup tonight? 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: Jim the biggest thing I'm looking for, and the biggest 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: thing everyone should be looking for is Armando bay Kat's ankle. 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: That is the key. He sprained it in the last game. 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: He hobbled off, he got helped off actually the floor, 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: and it looked like it. 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: Was bad news. Didn't seem like he was going to 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: come back where it is. 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: He didn't even get it taped, said Etset got back 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: in the game. We love the warrior in him, but 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 4: Katy has to exploit that. They have to go to 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: McCormick early and off in the post, try to get 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: him foul trouble, try to get him moving on that ankle. 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: I think they can, but Matt. 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: Ultimately I think I'm going with the heels and we 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: can get into a why a little bit later. 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Disagree. I think the ankle thing's huge. 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: They're at Kansas being there and trying to push Bay 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: kind of think out in transition Jim on the heels 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: of a game which they had zero transition points against 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: Villanova's stellar transition to Unfortunately, Leanova's half court defense was 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: completely shredded by Kansas's light stout shooting and just general 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: inside out execution. So yeah, I think Kansas is a 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: mini juggernaut right now, is because UNC has been playing. 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: I like the Jayhawks shitting yeah. 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the best version of Kansas that 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: we could possibly see Saturday night. Like, look what they 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: did to Villanova. That Villanova a well coached, well prepared team, 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: and Kansas basically ran them off the floor. It was 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Villanova's game in terms of tempo, no transition points for Kansas, 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: and it didn't matter. I mean, the Jayhawks were just 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: absolutely at their apex. Didn't even need Remy Martin that night. 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: They got the great David McCormick game, they got the 56 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: elite top shelf oh chaia Evaji game, six for six 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: from three to start. So that that is like that, 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: that's what we're hoping for. You're Kansas is better, You 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: are settling in and you're hoping to see just let's 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: replay Saturday night. Let's get that kind of performance again. 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm leaving that way. I really like Kansas first half. 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: I think they jump out, get on him early, ky 63 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: We get the McCormick possessed man, possessed again the way 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: he was against Villanova. I think we get a couple 65 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: of early shot makes and Kai. We heard mister Bill 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: self multiple times and Abaji multiple times talk about the 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: Rims and how much they are comfortable with this shooting background. 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I think it's usually coach speak 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: right in these press conferences and like, oh, we're not 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: worried about the Rims. The Rims are soft. Our depth 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: perception is good. I think They'll self actually means it. 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: When he's talking about the Super Dome and they proved 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: it against Villanova, he says his team likes shooting in 74 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: this dome. He said, oh, chaia Bogi especially like shooting 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: in it. He proved it with that six y three 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: point performance. So I didn't believe that. And I like 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: the under the overloly excuse me, because of the transition 78 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: as well. Both teams want to run, run, run, Neither 79 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: is super good at stopping the run. Both teams run 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: off the glass. Now both teams are pretty good on 81 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: the offensive glass. It's going to be a bit of 82 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: a a strength or strength in that sense. 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: But I think both teams run up and down. It's 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: going to be fast paced, it's going to be electric, 85 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of fun. 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: Mat I love the over one fifty two. It's been 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: bed down a little bit. I don't know if I 88 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: agree with that. I don't agree with that money and 89 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: Kay brought up the points about the venue, the sitelines. 90 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: We's been on the case investigating those sitelines, the rims. Yeah, 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: and to hear both player and coach underscore how relieved 92 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: they were at the shooting environments and then on the 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: you know, so just the anecdote there and the fact 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: that they went twenty three to fifty combined from downtown, 95 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: all that sets up for I think a high efficient, 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: highly efficient scoring game as well as as Kai mentioned. 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: The pace, I think this game's up and down too 98 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: so over for. 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Me, yeah, I think I think tempo is going to 100 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: be mega up tempo, like we saw Kansas play their 101 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: slowest games since twenty sixteen. February of twenty sixteen was 102 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: the last time that Kansas was sub sixty possessions. Villanova 103 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: dragged them down into that mud and it didn't matter. 104 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: They still scored eighty one points. I think we see 105 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of like a slingshot effect where Kansas 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: is excited to play against a willing transition participant. They 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: get up and down with North Carolina in this one. 108 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would expect see seventy plus possessions in 109 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: this game that plays up to that one P fifty 110 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: two total that Mankai referred to. I also like the over. 111 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything with the first half total. I'm 112 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: just concerned it could be like a Duke Kansas, excuse me, 113 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: a Duke North Carolina where I think they had seventy 114 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: one in the first half, didn't quite creep over the total. 115 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: But man, the second half had a scoring explosion. I 116 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: feel like that's what we see again tonight. Anything else, guys, 117 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: let's quick dip into player prop market. Most US sending 118 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: player market, Kyle, go to you first. Here. The one 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: thing I like is Dewan Harris over five and a 120 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: half points. I think we're going to see him get 121 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: a lot of open shots. I think they're going to 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: leave him open the same way Villanova did, and so 123 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: he'll get the shots up. All he's got to do 124 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: is make two threes or a couple driving baskets, or 125 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: a couple of free throws. So I liked want Harris 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: over five and a half, guys, or anything you like 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: in the player prop market. 128 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: Jim, I'm looking at a very juicy player problem. 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: It's o Chaia. 130 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: Baji over one and a half three pointers made, talked 131 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: about how much he likes shooting in this dome. 132 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: I think his confidence is sky high right now. 133 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: He's kind of gotten over that little slump we saw 134 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: him do during the earlier part of the tournament, and 135 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: in the conference tournament, he's playing with the ulmost confidence. 136 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: Bill self underscored it during the press conference. He went 137 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: absolutely off against Villanova. And there's a reason why he's 138 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: the heavy, heavy, heavy favorite to win Most Outstanding Player 139 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 4: now at most books, Kansas wins. There's a very good 140 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: chance he's the reason why. I don't think you and 141 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: See really has an answer for him. He will be 142 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: the best player on the floor. He is the only 143 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: first team All American on the floor. Can the he 144 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: blackguard him? Matt Maybe? But is the blacketting at the assignment? 145 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. I would guess he is, but I'm 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 2: still taking a bogie that matchup. 147 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, curious how both coaches play the one b one 148 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: matchup chess match to me, no matter how he red 149 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: name his play as David McCormick is in position to 150 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: put up big numbers tonight. Even if UNC wants to 151 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: go small, I think McCormick's going to be out there 152 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: trying to combat. That's smart to look on the offensive end, 153 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: but he's not going to be exploited on the defensive 154 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: end either, because you can kind of hide McCormick on 155 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: Leaky Black or Puff Johnson because they are more or 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: less non shooters. Now, Leaky didn't make two last game. 157 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: I think that was more fluke than emergence of trend. 158 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: So I think McCormick is going to be out there 159 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: for twenty five to thirty minutes to night, and that's 160 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: a Keith McCormick's props, right. I think you have to 161 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: know how much you have to feel confident he's going 162 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: to play pretty big minutes. And given how well he's 163 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: been playing, aw he's been finishing his left right combos, 164 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: baby hooks, chump hooks in the post keeps going tonight. 165 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: So I think over like twelve and a half is 166 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: the current current number minus one twenty five, that's a 167 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: good bet. 168 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, especially with Bacott's injury, I think they 169 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: are going to be very focused on getting McCormick the 170 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: ball early, getting it to him often running. We kind 171 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: of talked about transitioning the transition game. I think they're 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: going to try to run to test that ankle on Baycott. 173 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: They want to make sure that he can actually move 174 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: with them, and if he can't, I mean this game 175 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: could get out of hand. So that's another live angle 176 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: if you want to be very conscious of that early 177 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: in the game. Let's see how Bacott's moving. If he can't, 178 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: if he's really sluggish, then you probably want to get 179 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: on Kansas Live because man, North Carolina has no depth. 180 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: Poff Johnson not the same player as Armando Bacott and 181 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: his twenty plus rebounds a game, So definitely keep an 182 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: eye on that early if you are a live better guys, 183 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think we got our little 184 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: our takes in here on the side, the total, Kai, 185 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: give me a quick recap of what you're thinking in 186 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: terms of side, in terms of total the things you're 187 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: looking for tonight. 188 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't quite mention the side here, Jim, but 189 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: I like you and C plus four. I think it's 190 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: gonna be a close game. The whole way comes down 191 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: to one or two possessions and canob love is the 192 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: main reason why he's a rational confident this is perfect 193 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: a tournament setting. We know that fearless guards in March 194 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: are what wins, what makes those excellent final four championship moments, 195 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: and Love has that attitude, that ability to hit those 196 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: game breaking shotsty in the games. I think we get 197 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: one of those. I think Kansas wins mat but I'm 198 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: taking you and see. 199 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: What the points. 200 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: No official players for me on the side, Jammelian your 201 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: way with Kansas, but overs my official play. Like I said, 202 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: one thy two, both from a pace and an efficiency standpoint, 203 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: I think everything set so well here for a points 204 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: bonanza in the title game. I know Unders have actually 205 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: played pretty well in championship games historically, at least the 206 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: last I think five to seven years. But this superhome 207 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: environment clearly is one that is conducive to high scoring 208 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: and both teams will be willing handshake, agreement participants, and 209 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: an up and down an affair. 210 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: So over for me, Jim, Yeah, let's not worry about 211 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the two thousand and nine final four and final game 212 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: that stayed under. They went all three games went under. 213 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. That is not relevant here we're thirteen 214 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: years later, don't worry about that. I like Kansas first 215 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: half two. That is the one bet I'm going to 216 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: be on tonight. So between Kuy's plus four Matt's over 217 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: in my minus two first half, we can all go 218 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: three and oh guys, there's no conflicting bets here. Three 219 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: man Weave is going to be cashing tickets. That's the hope, 220 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: that's the goal. We always are working on that here 221 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: on the Big Bets on Campus podcast. But this is 222 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: probably our last ride this year. Maybe we all have 223 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: a future's episode at some point in the future, but 224 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: for games, this is the last one, obviously the last 225 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: one of the seasons. 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