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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast. Am on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back George Nori with you experience. Our next Navy man,

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Speaker 2: Steve Baron, was planning to enjoy a very quiet early

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Speaker 2: retirement when two shocking close encounters with UFOs made that impossible.

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Speaker 2: Those events left Steve with no choice but to dedicate

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Speaker 2: himself to understanding what he saw. Steve, welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the program. It's been about six years. How you been.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm doing great.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't be any happier Georgian, thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for the invitation on this amazing show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being ex Navy same as me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a squid, I was a Gator Navy.

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Speaker 4: I was with the CBS and the Seals. My group

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Speaker 4: beach Mesters, which nobody knows who they are.

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Speaker 2: I was public information. I didn't see any action at

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Speaker 2: all other than stuff at the Pentagon and places like that.

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Speaker 2: My unit got called up the Deserts one month before,

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Speaker 2: one month after I retired.

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Speaker 4: Well that sounds like what they did to me in

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Speaker 4: a way. I was getting I had six months left

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Speaker 4: on my enlistment. This is in nineteen seventy it's the

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Speaker 4: end of nineteen seventy four. And what did they send

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Speaker 4: me to? Is they send me to Jungle Law Survival

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Speaker 4: in Panama. Boy, was that a lot of fun?

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Speaker 2: I bet my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen hundred Marines and about five or six Navy people.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 2: How many years has it been now since we gave

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Speaker 2: up the Panama Canal?

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Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh. That well, it's long after I was there.

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Speaker 3: I know that. I see Trump's trying to get it back.

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Speaker 2: He just might, he just might. Anyways, you had a

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Speaker 2: couple of shocking closing encounters yourself. What happened? One was

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Speaker 2: in Canada and the other was in Nevada?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I should start out with the one in Canada

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Speaker 4: because that was the first one and the most amazing.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 3: My wife and I, you know, we've been married over

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Speaker 3: forty years.

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Speaker 4: We lived in northern California for a really long time,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, this company I worked for, they

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Speaker 4: got absorbed by Western Digital and that was a good

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Speaker 3: So we moved to Utah.

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Speaker 4: For eight years, and then we had a chance to

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Speaker 4: come here to Vegas, where I grew up, and we

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Speaker 3: But we got here.

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Speaker 4: We bought this home, and the biggest selling point was

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Speaker 4: the view, but we bought that. We moved in on

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Speaker 4: the first of July in twenty eleven, and in October

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Speaker 4: of that same year, we took a cruise. We went

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Speaker 4: to New York City and go on a cruise ship

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Speaker 4: and went up the east coast of the United States

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Speaker 4: and then up into Canada to Newfoundland.

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Speaker 3: We went to Halifax and.

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Speaker 4: Saint John's but anyway, our last port was Halifax and

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Speaker 4: then we were going to head back to New York City.

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Speaker 3: It was just a one week cruise. And I used

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Speaker 3: to smoke.

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Speaker 4: I quit smoking in twenty seventeen, but I did then,

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Speaker 4: and this was in October. It was October thirteenth, twenty eleven.

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Speaker 4: It's funny how you remember those things. Yeah, anyway, we

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Speaker 4: had just eaten dinner. It's probably about ten o'clock at night,

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Speaker 3: It was as dark as could be.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't see any land or anything, just the you know,

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Speaker 4: comes a for lack of a better way of describing it,

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Speaker 3: And I couldn't even blink it.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were going south, it was going north,

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Speaker 2: Wow, any noise coming from it, Steve.

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Speaker 4: That was what really got to me, George, I've always

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Speaker 3: Blew me away.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, the whole event probably didn't last any more

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Speaker 4: it just flew by us and halfway to the back

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Speaker 4: didn't angle down, but it just went down like it

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Speaker 3: And that's the last time I ever saw it.

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Speaker 4: But to see something like that for your first UFO

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Speaker 2: Were there many witnesses with you, Steve, No, of course, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, it's it was like ten at night. It's really

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's you know, cigarette.

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Speaker 4: Smokers probably see more upos than anybody. They go outside

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Speaker 4: I was so excited and I told my wife and

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Speaker 4: actually I stayed out there about twenty minutes longer, hoping

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Speaker 4: But I went in and told my wife and she said,

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Speaker 4: calming down a little bit, and so you know what

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Speaker 4: the one thing that caused was it caused me to

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Speaker 4: create a little Facebook group. You know, I think I

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Speaker 4: called a UFOs in the USA. Of course it was

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Speaker 4: April sixteenth, twenty.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen, nighttime. Pardon me, nighttime.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's about eight thirty at night. I even

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Speaker 4: corner of my eye, George, I see this crimson color

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Speaker 3: And I immediately looked up.

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Speaker 4: And now this time, this thing's about six to eight

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Speaker 4: I immediately remembered that one in Canada, and I reached in

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Speaker 4: And then it really started running because this thing stopped

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Speaker 3: Fourteen miles away.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I know that was it took me

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Speaker 4: several days to figure out how to even post a

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Speaker 2: Did it take a while to sink in? The register.

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Speaker 4: But there was something dread. There's kind of a dread

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Speaker 4: I just I've never had one do that again, and

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Speaker 4: But anyway, it started, it started moving around like a

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Speaker 4: like a hummingbird. I think it was over as close

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Speaker 3: It for about five minutes. It was a terrible job of.

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Speaker 4: Filming because not only did I have my adrenaline run,

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Speaker 4: over the top. It's another close upsiding. It was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It was a saucer because the boys saw that too,

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Speaker 4: But the back of it is what I saw, and

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Speaker 3: Tubes on it.

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Speaker 4: So you know, that is where I really decided to

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Speaker 4: You want to talk to people about it, you know,

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Speaker 2: Did it ever cross your mind that it might be hours?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, all the time, all the time I do.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is is, if it's ours, you know,

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Speaker 4: look at that technology. I mean, where did that come.

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Speaker 2: From, you know, and why don't we use it?

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Speaker 4: So anyway, that was the one that put me over

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Speaker 4: going to start documenting them because I have this perfect

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Speaker 4: storm of circumstances that happened to me, George. When we

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Speaker 4: We're here in Summerline by the Red Rock Resort.

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Speaker 3: Reason.

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Speaker 4: I could have got a house with a three car garage,

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Speaker 4: a big swimming pool, everything, and extra bedroom for the

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Speaker 4: same price I paid for this one.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted this one.

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Speaker 4: One because it had the view of the entire valley.

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Speaker 3: So the first three.

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Speaker 4: Years I lived here, I had that one event in Canada,

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Speaker 4: and then I had this event. Well, I got started

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Speaker 4: with my digital camera and I did get some digital.

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Speaker 3: UFO videos that were pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: And it's I started getting you know, a few subscribers,

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Speaker 3: Vision monocular to me.

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Speaker 3: So you make up your own mind what you think

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Speaker 4: And the thing is is when what happened with Tony

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Speaker 3: Not take a note for an answer, and he he says,

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Speaker 4: Vision devices, two of them are identical. Let me send

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Speaker 2: Yes i am. And also, did you know a fellow

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Speaker 4: Well, i'll tell you what what happened was the same

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Speaker 3: A night vision device before.

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Speaker 4: And there's one place in Las Vegas that, even though

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Speaker 3: North of the city. Like you're on your way out

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Speaker 2: Creature for Space, And how close were you to Area

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Speaker 3: Right now where I'm sitting.

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Speaker 4: If I go seventy miles in a straight line, I'll

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Speaker 2: Ah, seventy miles okay.

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Speaker 4: And so anyway, the first time I ever used that device,

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Speaker 4: I started seeing formations of these white orbs doing I swear,

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Speaker 4: And I'm not the only one that says is it

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Speaker 4: seemed like they were all just having fun.

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Speaker 3: And what they were doing is they were creating.

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Speaker 4: Patterns like star patterns to emit metric shapes, and then

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Speaker 4: doing things that just blew me away.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like locking in now, this is twenty fifteen, locking.

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Speaker 4: I'm just out there every night. I'm out there every night,

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Speaker 4: just as long as I could stand it in the cold.

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Speaker 3: Or the heat.

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Speaker 2: Would you say you were obsessed at this point, I would.

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Speaker 4: Say I was too obsessed, because you know, I was

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, too.

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Speaker 4: As I was avoiding meals, I wasn't getting a whole

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Speaker 4: lot of sleep. It was just so interesting. I could

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Speaker 4: not not go out, you know. So about three years

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Speaker 4: into it, about by twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, I decided

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Speaker 4: And so since then and the way more now is

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Speaker 4: I go out, and I have I still have three

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Speaker 4: new generation, the next generation night Visions. I don't use

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Speaker 4: all three at once, but I do use two of

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Speaker 4: them a lot of times at the same time. Because

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Speaker 4: I can get evidence on two different cameras.

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Speaker 2: You can clearly see these objects all over the place

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Speaker 4: Oh it's it's it's and it's not just it's not satellites,

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Speaker 4: it's not anything. Even now, George, even within a month ago,

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Speaker 4: these same things are still here. They're still here, and

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Speaker 4: they're still moving between the Mohave Desert on the north.

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Speaker 3: Side of that mountain range, which it also has Area

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Speaker 4: They are coming, I think, to Nellis Air Force Face

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Speaker 4: and they come and go from there.

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Speaker 2: And you think they're coming welcomed.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think they are part of our military.

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Speaker 4: And that's why that's why I think I struggle so

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Speaker 4: mightily to get people to take me seriously, because you know,

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Speaker 4: you see the Navy they're off their off the coast

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Speaker 4: about having these gimbals and tic TACs and all these

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Speaker 4: other things out there, whereas the Air Force has these

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Speaker 4: things with them. And I'll tell you what, I see

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Speaker 4: both types of craft in the air at the same time.

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Speaker 4: Just about a month ago. It happened twice in the

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Speaker 4: same night and then it happened right before that. You

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Speaker 4: see them flying in groups of four. It's like a

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Speaker 4: string of pearls, but it's elongated. They're not perfectly right

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Speaker 4: next to each other. What they started doing now? And

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Speaker 4: I think they know, I know they know I filmed them.

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Speaker 4: They're flying along, they're each spaced out, and one of

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Speaker 4: them all of a sudden brightens up. It's still maintaining

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Speaker 4: the speed inside that line and moving. However, it decides

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Speaker 4: I have footage of that. Just I mean, it's it's.

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Speaker 3: You cannot explain that. I mean, just think about it.

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Speaker 4: Four white orbs moving in a line, probably not even

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Speaker 4: a mile between each one. It's probably more like a

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Speaker 4: half mile.

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Speaker 3: And here's one of them showing off. It's like, look

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