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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, May twenty second, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're not

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Speaker 1: overreacting to camp videos. It's been your rand MG Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grand joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones. And Uh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I should I should add I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't just bump you in with me, fellows, I name Latwan.

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Speaker 1: Are you reacting to camp videos?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: No, but I like seeing players that were injured last season.

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Speaker 3: They're out there practicing, moving around looking good. Those are

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Speaker 3: the videos that I'm really like attached to.

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Speaker 1: I should say, yeah, I don't know. Do you have Florida?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a like a rule of thumb about

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Speaker 1: camp videos? Like are there certain ones you care about

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Speaker 1: or are you just kind of ignoring all of them?

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Speaker 1: Or you just do you get hyped over all of them?

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Speaker 4: I try to ignore all of them. I do agree

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Speaker 4: with lq's point. It's good to see players who were

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Speaker 4: hurt last year back out there doing their thing. The

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Speaker 4: only time I get hyped is if I'm really like,

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Speaker 4: I tell myself not to get hyped, but then I

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Speaker 4: see Anthony Richardson doing something or Kyle Pitt's doing something

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, all right, yeah, like let's get fired.

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Speaker 4: But that's what these videos should like. They should get

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Speaker 4: you excited for football and stuff like that, but they

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Speaker 4: shouldn't change your rankings or how you view a player

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Speaker 4: or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I would say the Kyle Pitts uh, you know, leaping catch.

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Speaker 1: I know I got a lot of people hot and bothered, right,

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's you know, it's I think those one

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Speaker 1: of two ways with Kyle Pitts. Either it's like I

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Speaker 1: guess one of three ways. Either I'm back in I

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Speaker 1: was always in, or I'm not getting sucked in again.

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Speaker 1: Like I think that's where we are with Kyle Pitts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what he does.

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Speaker 3: I'm in this year though, I mean like it wasn't

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Speaker 3: because of the video. It's more so the changes that

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Speaker 3: happened this offseason. You know, there's no author Smith, your

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. It's like, Okay, I can buy into this

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Speaker 3: because we know he's talented. It was just a situation

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Speaker 3: wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: Also being in on Kyle it's a sign of a

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Speaker 1: prerequisite to being on this show because Floria and I

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Speaker 1: never left like I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna say, yeah, you don't have to ask me. You

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Speaker 4: know where I.

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Speaker 1: Stand, Like we never left, so like you being on

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Speaker 1: this show, like you sort of have to be like

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Speaker 1: it's just those are the rules.

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Speaker 4: I Yeah, when that video came out the other day,

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Speaker 4: I tweeted, I was like, just be warned. I'm once

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Speaker 4: again telling you to draft Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Pit this year.

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Speaker 4: Most of the responses were like, we're in this year,

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Speaker 4: so I think everyone gets it. Quarterback up grade, coach

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Speaker 4: up grade, let's go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, if he underperforms or underwhelms this year,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's out.

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Speaker 2: I think that's it's over then.

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Speaker 1: Right, because every year there has been a reason why

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Speaker 1: you know it was I mean the rookie year was

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Speaker 1: was good. It just you know, I don't know, he

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Speaker 1: was over hyped and so people were disappointed even though

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Speaker 1: he had a thousand yards that year. You know, then

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Speaker 1: he got hurt. Then he had a galaxy brained coach,

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Speaker 1: he had quarterback issues. Like this year, Arthur Smith's gone,

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Speaker 1: They've upgraded to Kirk Cousins. He's healthy again, Like everything

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Speaker 1: has finally come together. So like if it doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: this year, I think everybody's just like, well, that's just

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Speaker 4: It is just to remind everyone though, Kyle Pitts is

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Speaker 4: just two years older than Brock Bauers, who we are

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Speaker 4: all claiming is the future at the position. And I

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Speaker 4: think that Kyle Pitts was a better prospect than Brock Bauers.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not giving up.

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Speaker 2: I should I should actually look this up.

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Speaker 1: I saw something that said Michael Pennix Junior is older

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Speaker 1: then than Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 2: Is that is that really true?

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Speaker 1: He is Michael Pennock Junior is is older uh than

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts probably like a few months.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, crazy crazy.

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Speaker 5: That's insane. Wow, that is I did not realize that.

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Speaker 5: That's a brain blast right there.

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Speaker 2: That was literally crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have played to talk about on the show. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into what we call the super Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: Our research team who does a great job all year long.

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Speaker 1: They hit us up at the end of the year

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Speaker 1: and they put together a lot of interesting little nuggets

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Speaker 1: of things that happened during the season and sort of

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Speaker 1: how they fit contextually in the greater scheme of the

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Speaker 1: NFL and fantasy football. So I picked out a handful

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Speaker 1: of him, and we'll use this kind of talk about

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Speaker 1: guys that maybe we like, maybe we should be worried

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Speaker 1: about this year. Also because we are in the midst

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Speaker 1: of OTA season. Play a little bit of hype trainer

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Speaker 1: smoke screen later on in the show. But let's get

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Speaker 1: started with a few news headlines, and Lakwan, you talked

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Speaker 1: about watching videos and seeing guys who were injured out

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Speaker 1: on the field running and getting back into the action tank.

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Speaker 1: Dell is out running routes and apparently looking healthy now.

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Speaker 1: He was shot suffered a gunshot wound about three weeks

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Speaker 1: also suffered injury last year that kept him out of

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. Right now, he's going as

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Speaker 1: a top thirty wide receiver. I believe on Underdog he's

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Speaker 1: a twenty seven if I remember correctly from Yes, How

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Speaker 1: comfortable are you right now with Bell as a top

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Speaker 1: is what concerns you more? Is it the injuries or

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Speaker 3: Room wide receiver twenty seven is a little expensive for

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Speaker 3: me of where he's going. That's like somewhat of the

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Speaker 3: fourth round where he's getting off the board, and I

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Speaker 3: think there's still some question marks of how this is

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Speaker 3: people on the internet saying, you know, if he goes

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Speaker 3: a lot of defenses can crowd up those passing lengths

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Speaker 3: think he'll be more so a guy that could play

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Speaker 3: my big number one. Where's this guy gonna play at

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Speaker 3: So the injuries obviously across the board, health is gonna

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Speaker 3: from Tank Dell, and from Nico Collins. Staying on the field,

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Speaker 3: Diggs and pretty much solid when it comes to that

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Speaker 3: injury concern. So more so my concern big concern here

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's the number one receiver in Houston, right

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Speaker 1: now Florio, is it Nico Collins, is it Stefan Diggs?

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Speaker 1: Who do you think is the wide receiver one this year?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: That is a very good question, and that is why

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Speaker 4: the uncertainty that I have makes it a little bit

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Speaker 4: hard to kind of firmly plan a flag on any

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Speaker 4: of these guys. I think for weekly volume, Steph Diggs

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Speaker 4: I could see him getting a consistent like seven to

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Speaker 4: is the big play threat, so he could even un

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Speaker 4: think I feel most confident drafting right now is Nico Collins.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is he's the most expensive one of

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Speaker 4: like vengeance or something like that, but Diggs is becoming

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Speaker 4: the one that I think I want to draft the

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Speaker 4: least because he might get the safest amount of volume,

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Speaker 4: but it's gonna be lower eight air yards per target

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Speaker 4: that he got in Buffalo, it's gonna be hard for

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Speaker 4: him to live up to that top. What is he

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Speaker 4: So this is one of those offenses that I want

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Speaker 4: spread it out and I'll have a couple of teams

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Speaker 4: because I, at least as of now May twenty second,

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Speaker 4: I don't have a strong read on one of them

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's I think the safest route to go

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Speaker 2: about it right now. If there's a.

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Speaker 1: Thing we learned about CJ. Stroud, he will throw to

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Speaker 1: He was able to make it work with both Collins

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Speaker 1: of how things finished in Buffalo, there's still a lot

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Speaker 1: still be a high level wide receiver. So the guy

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Speaker 1: It's going to be hard to figure out on a

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Speaker 1: I guess in bestball than it will be in redraft leagues,

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Speaker 1: because I think we're going to be frustrated trying to

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Speaker 1: figure it out. I mean, Floria, we were frustrated talking

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Speaker 1: about this last year in redraft leagues because some weeks

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Speaker 1: were the Collins weeks, some weeks were the Dell weeks.

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Speaker 1: Now you're adding Stefan Digs to that mix, it's only

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Speaker 1: going to get more frustrating. That's before you get to

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever targets Joe Mixon and Dalton Schultz.

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Speaker 5: Guys or forgot about mixing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 5: The real winner here though, I'm sorry, go ahead, I

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Speaker 5: was gonna say the real winner here out of all

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Speaker 5: this is c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud And that's why City's the top five you know

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Speaker 3: quarterback listings right now. And it's like he becomes such

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Speaker 3: a dominant force going into the season with all these weapons.

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Speaker 3: We have a great running back that can help in

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Speaker 3: the passing game. You have Stefan Diggs, who's still Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 3: Like we're not talking about him as if he's lost

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Speaker 3: a step. It's just that he's going into a crowded

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Speaker 3: room where he's never had this energy match on a

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Speaker 3: talent level, and he never had this type of competition

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Speaker 3: for you know, targets. And I really feel as though

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Speaker 3: Tank Dell brings something to the table, Nico brings something

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Speaker 3: to the table. So the biggest winner here is c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud lockdown.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feels like last year we were like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about the Jaguars receivers,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna draft Trevor Lawrence. It didn't work out

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Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, but it might work for us. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's sort of I'm feeling about it. I just well,

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Speaker 1: it's on Diggs.

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Speaker 4: I know, Oh, we're not treating him like he lost

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Speaker 4: the step as more volume concern. I agree with that,

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Speaker 2: Lakwan, is David Johnson a Fantasy Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we need to have like a Fantasy Hall of

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Speaker 1: That's your homework. Yes, but I did. I had the

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Speaker 1: and we pick and choose the things that we think

437
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Speaker 1: are interesting.

438
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna dive in and talk about some of

439
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Speaker 2: these things.

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Speaker 1: The first one that jumped out to me, Jalen Hurts

441
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Speaker 1: scored sixty five point one fantasy points from the one

442
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Speaker 1: yard line. That's almost thirty one more points than the

443
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Speaker 1: next closest quarterback. It turned out to be a little

444
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Speaker 1: more than eighteen percent of his fantasy points.

445
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Speaker 2: Wow.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the tush push, the brotherly shove, whatever you want

447
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: to call it, was fantasy gold unless you had DeAndre Swift.

448
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Speaker 2: I'm raising my hand, um.

449
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Speaker 1: But obviously some of the big news in the off

450
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Speaker 1: season for the Eagles that Jason Kelsey has retired.

451
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Speaker 2: Now, if you ask a lot.

452
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Speaker 1: Of observers, that he was a big part of the

453
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Speaker 1: reason it was so successful that he figured out how

454
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Speaker 1: to be the low man use his leverage. They also

455
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Speaker 1: have a quarterback who can squat six hundred pounds and

456
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Speaker 1: Matt had a lot to do with it as well.

457
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Speaker 2: So Florio. Without Jason Kelcey, how concerned should we be

458
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Speaker 2: about Hurts? Does this number come down significantly? And is

459
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Speaker 2: there a way for him to supplement it in some

460
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Speaker 2: other part of his game.

461
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Speaker 4: This is one of those things that, like you could yes,

462
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 4: you can be worried about it, but there's zero way

463
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Speaker 4: of quantifying it in my opinion, because we don't know

464
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Speaker 4: what he looks like without Jason Kelcey, we haven't seen it.

465
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Speaker 4: How much of the Toush push is ja Like their

466
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Speaker 4: new center Cam Jurgens is listed as ten pounds heavier

467
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Speaker 4: than Jason Kelcey, so he's just as big. Last I checked,

468
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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts could still squat six hundred pounds. So I'm

469
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Speaker 4: thinking we're still gonna get a lot of Jalen Hurts

470
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Speaker 4: near the goal line, maybe not as much as last year.

471
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Speaker 4: I don't, But then again, I don't know how much

472
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Speaker 4: of that is because of Jason kelce and how much

473
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Speaker 4: of it is because Jalen Hurts has gotten banged up

474
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Speaker 4: each of the last couple of years. And they're like,

475
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Speaker 4: maybe we don't use our franchise quarterback as a goal

476
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Speaker 4: line runner twenty times a year. Maybe we pick and

477
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Speaker 4: choose our spots a little bit better. So it is

478
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Speaker 4: a concern for Jalen Hurts, but not enough for me

479
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Speaker 4: to significantly discount him in the rankings or anything.

480
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Speaker 2: Like.

481
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Speaker 4: He's still my QB two as of right now, behind

482
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 4: only Josh Allen, and if he stops running near the

483
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 4: goal line, it will hurt his fantasy value one hundred percent.

484
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Speaker 4: But there's also room for him to grow as a

485
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Speaker 4: passer this year and get back to where he was

486
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Speaker 4: two years ago, where he was just pure cheek code mode,

487
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Speaker 4: Like we didn't have that Jalen Hurts last year. So yes,

488
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Speaker 4: it's a little concerning, but not enough for me to

489
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Speaker 4: really change anything about it.

490
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Speaker 1: Let me throw another wrench in this for you, Lakwan

491
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift is gone. He's in Chicago now Saquon Barkley

492
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Speaker 1: is in who is about twenty pounds heavier than the

493
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Speaker 1: Andre Swift. Is there a chance that some of those

494
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Speaker 1: one yard runs that went to Jalen Hurts instead now

495
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: they just turn around and they hand it off to

496
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Speaker 1: Saquon this year?

497
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Speaker 5: I think you have to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you bring in a guy like Saquon Barkley

499
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Speaker 3: that you still believe has some juice to him, and

500
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Speaker 3: I think you would want to get maximum capacity out

501
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Speaker 3: of his talent. So obviously, when you start getting to

502
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Speaker 3: that goal line, you have a paid franchise quarterback that

503
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Speaker 3: Glorio mentioned that's been getting banged up these last couple

504
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Speaker 3: of years. You want to keep them up right. So

505
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Speaker 3: I think Saquon becomes a huge red zone threat for him.

506
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say so. Saquon's gonna go out there

507
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: and put up ten touchdowns or anything like that. But

508
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Speaker 3: it's on the table for him to be more involved

509
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Speaker 3: in the red zone than Jalen Hurts getting those like

510
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Speaker 3: Tush push and QB sneaks and stuff.

511
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Speaker 2: I think Squon can get ten touchdowns. I think you

512
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Speaker 2: can get I'm.

513
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pound the table for it because there's

514
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Speaker 3: still injury risks. I don't know if he's gonna be

515
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Speaker 3: sure fully healthy, so I'm not gonna say he's gonna get, like,

516
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Speaker 3: you know, ten plus, but it's on the table for

517
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Speaker 3: him if he could stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I think ten touchdowns are definitely

519
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: possible if they get close, because I think at some

520
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: point if you're the Eagles, sure it's been great having

521
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Speaker 1: your quarterback take these opportunities, but maybe not so much

522
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Speaker 1: if you're trying to build.

523
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Speaker 2: Around him for the long term for sure.

524
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Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, we have a couple of major a

525
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Speaker 1: couple of big name quarterbacks coming off major injury Achilles

526
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Speaker 1: injuries from past season. Courtesy of our research team. Dan

527
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Speaker 1: Marino in nineteen ninety four went for four four hundred

528
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Speaker 1: and fifty three passing yards and thirty touchdowns coming off

529
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Speaker 1: of a torn achilles. He was the fantasy QB three

530
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Speaker 1: that season, really the only notable quarterback to have a

531
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Speaker 1: big season coming off and Achilles injury. Obviously, both Kirk

532
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Speaker 1: Cousins and Aaron Rodgers are doing the same the kwan.

533
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Speaker 1: Both of them are much older than thirty three years

534
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Speaker 1: old at this point, especially Rogers. Can either one of

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Speaker 1: them finish as a QB one? Can they be top

536
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Speaker 1: twelve guys this year coming off that injury?

537
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Speaker 5: Uh I I listened.

538
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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety four is a long, long time ago and

539
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: completely different game. And you know, with these two guys older,

540
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Speaker 3: I just don't see it. I honestly still have my

541
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: question marks around Kirk Cousins as well coming back from

542
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Speaker 3: this injury, and obviously Aaron Rodgers with his age and

543
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: mobility and ability in general to stay on the field

544
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Speaker 3: this year, it's I just don't see it.

545
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Speaker 1: Side note that nineteen ninety four season, that was the

546
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Speaker 1: first year I ever played fantasy football and Dan Marino was

547
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Speaker 1: my first round pick.

548
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Speaker 5: That oh nice?

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't make it three years old. Thanks

550
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: thanks man. Can we mute his mic for a while?

551
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: That was my first coming That was my first round pick,

552
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Speaker 1: and like I know nowadays you're like, why did you?

553
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: But like back then, like we didn't. We hadn't really

554
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: evolved draft theory or whatever. So like everybody drafted quarterbacks

555
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: in the first round just made more right, like they

556
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: scored the most points, Like wouldn't you draft him in

557
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: the first round? So yeah, I couldn't tell who else

558
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: was on my team that year, but I knew, I

559
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 1: know I drafted Dan Marino in the first round. I mean,

560
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: so that if that's the case, Flora, I don't know

561
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Speaker 1: if you agree with Laquante that it's going to be

562
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: a struggle for them. Is it worth drafting one or both?

563
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously not on the same team, but either

564
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Speaker 1: one of these guys.

565
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Speaker 4: This year, I don't love targeting either one of them.

566
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 4: And I think they could finish as like volume low

567
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: end QB ones where similar to like what Rogers did

568
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: two years ago when he had that hand issue, where

569
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 4: like he finished I think it was like two or

570
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: three weeks as a top ten fantasy quarterback, but because

571
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: he stayed healthy and was able to compile stats, he

572
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: finishes QB thirteen. So it was just on that borderline.

573
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: I could see him having something like that where maybe

574
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Speaker 4: he backs in as a QB one at the end

575
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: of the year. But I'd much rather take those picks

576
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: on upside shots, like either Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels

577
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: or I like Matt Stafford more. There's a lot of

578
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 4: guys in that range who I would rather have. And

579
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Speaker 4: I was tweeting about this yesterday when it comes to

580
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, like, I understand, he's looking great right now

581
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: in camp seven on seven stuff like that, with no

582
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: pads and everything. Not only is he coming off of

583
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: this major injury, which we have one case of pointing

584
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 4: back to and saying, like, look, this guy was a

585
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: success after that injury, by the.

586
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: Way, if you want, by the way, it was a

587
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: guy who's won it. Considered one of the greatest quarterbacks

588
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: of all time too, Yeah, which.

589
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 4: Rodgers is as well, So I'm cool giving him that.

590
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 4: But then you look at it. He's also forty and

591
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: in the history of the NFL, the only quarterbacks to

592
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 4: score over one hundred and ninety points I believe it was,

593
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: or average fifteen points per game was Tom Brady. He

594
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 4: did a couple of times, Drew Brees and one year

595
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: of Brett Fahr. So like Aaron Rodgers has to make

596
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: history on two different fronts, and that's just not something

597
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: I'm willing.

598
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: To bet on.

599
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's interesting too, because I feel like

600
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: everybody's in on the skill position guys on those two teams,

601
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: right Like we're all in on Drake London and Kyle

602
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: Pitts and Beijon and everybody in Atlanta. People are still

603
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: in on obviously Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall. I guess

604
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: maybe to some extent, Mike wall Williams when he's healthy,

605
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: but I don't feel the same level of enthusiasm for

606
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: either Kirk Cousins or Aaron Rodgers coming off a major

607
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: injury last season.

608
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: Running backs.

609
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Only six running backs since twenty ten have had fifteen

610
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: plus Fantasy points per game at age twenty nine or older.

611
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: In the last six years, only two running backs started

612
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: the season at twenty eight years of age or older

613
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: and finished inside the top ten. Those two guys were

614
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Raheem Mostert. So let's start with Moster.

615
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: Florio obviously had a great year last year, a career

616
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: season for him. He gets the extension from the Dolphins,

617
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: so they're still very much in on him. I mean,

618
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: he's thirty two years old right now. Does he fall

619
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: off the cliff this year? I know I've been saying

620
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: I've been drafting because I like the ADP. Does he

621
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: fall off the cliff? Because it can happen quickly for

622
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: running backs.

623
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Speaker 4: That's what I don't think so, And there's nothing in

624
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: the numbers that indicated, although, funny enough, four point eight

625
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: yards per carry last year was his career worst. That

626
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 4: blew my mind when I saw that. But yeah, like

627
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: it's like these fall off the cliffs. They don't in

628
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: the NFL's It doesn't happen gracefully. It happens overnight, seemingly,

629
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: especially at the running back position. So it is possible,

630
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: but most of it is another one of these players

631
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: that if he succeeds, he's going to be making history.

632
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: Because running backs thirty two years or older, twenty one

633
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: of them in NFL history has scored one hundred and

634
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: ninety or more PPR points. That was the threshold to

635
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: be a top twenty four running back last year. The

636
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: last one to do so was Frank Gore in twenty sixteen,

637
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: and since twenty ten, The only other running backs to

638
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: join Frank Gore are D'Angelo Williams and Fred Jackson. So

639
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: very short list of players who have been able to

640
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: have a big fantasy impact at this age. But that

641
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: being said, you're getting all of the risk baked into

642
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: Raheem Mostert's ADP. Like if Mostart was going in the

643
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: fourth round rather than the eighth, I'd probably feel a

644
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: lot different about drafting him. But in the eighth round,

645
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, he's going with other backup running backs. That's

646
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: worth the shot.

647
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Speaker 2: I mean, are you still in on most I say,

648
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: you pumping the fists there looking yeah.

649
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: It's free.

650
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: Eighth round is crazy, man. I mean, look, he's still

651
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: on a high power offense that's going to create a

652
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: lot of scoring opportunities. Most of his fantasy points came

653
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Speaker 3: from the touchdowns. He's an efficient runner. He barely had

654
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: over a thousand yards where people are like really not

655
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: really looking at as well, but he was effective in

656
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: the passing him as well when given opportunity. So you

657
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: get in the PPR upside there with the catches and

658
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: you're getting all the red zone duty. It's just no

659
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: brainer here in the eighth round, like, oh, Okay, thank

660
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: you for like you're stealing walking away with him.

661
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still very much in on him, but

662
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: I think a couple of things do worry me. And

663
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: he won all these these stats, and again this is

664
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: not this is not solidify that things are gonna go bad,

665
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: but it's just sort of, you know, kind of a guideline.

666
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: The other part is last year was so amazing for him.

667
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean, eighteen touchdowns. You know, that's it's gonna be

668
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: hard to replicate that, especially when Devon a Chan is there.

669
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I guess the upside is they're not going to know.

670
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: You're not going to see moster get a full time workload.

671
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: He had two hundred and nine carries last year, which

672
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: is a career high. I would think the number is similar,

673
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: if not a little bit lower. So maybe that helps

674
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: some of the wear and tear. But you know, I

675
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: think there are reasons to be concerned. But maybe it is,

676
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the price or the risk is banked

677
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: in to the ADP got a handful of guys though,

678
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: who are going to be turning twenty nine years old

679
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: this year, So I'll start Yu Lakwan, who is more

680
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: likely to average at least fifteen points per game. Aaron Jones,

681
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, Austin Eckler, James Connor. All four of those.

682
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: Guys are gonna be turning twenty nine this season.

683
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: This is a good one, man. I mean I want

684
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: to remove Eckler. I don't see it in his future

685
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: over here with the Commanders, just based on you have

686
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels who's probably gonna lead that team in red

687
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: zone carries as well, so a lot of the scoring

688
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: opportunities may be taken away from him. But I think

689
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones and Alvin Kamara and James Connor could pull

690
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: this off. And I think James Conner will probably have

691
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 3: like thirteen or fourteen games played where he'll be up

692
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: there again where he's averaging fifteen fancy points per game.

693
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones, if the way he finished the season last year,

694
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: those last three games, if he keeps that same energy

695
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: and the same momentum going with the Vikings now and

696
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: they're showing clips of him getting utilized in the pass game, etc.

697
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: Etc.

698
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: But we already know the pass catcher he is, so

699
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: it's definitely in the starts with him and Alvin Kamara.

700
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: Come on, now, we know he's gonna catch a bunch

701
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: of balls. I mean, the dude averages like the most

702
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: targets per game, and he missed three games, so it's

703
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: like we already know his involvement in a pass game.

704
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: So he's definitely up there on the table where his

705
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: ceiling could be, like the fifteen fantasy points per game.

706
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: All right, Claura, you got to pick for this one. Yeah.

707
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: I think it's Alvin Kamara pretty hands down in my opinion,

708
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 4: because of what LQ said, because of all the passes

709
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: that are gonna go his way. Thirteen games he played

710
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: last year, eighty six targets, seventy five catches. That equates

711
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: to nearly six catches per game, which means in PPR

712
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: that's like a free touchdown every single week that he's getting.

713
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: And people who might be like, oh, well, Derek Carr

714
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: might not throw. Yeah, Derek Carr through twenty percent of

715
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: his passes last year to running backs and that is

716
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: his career norm. He is someone who is going to

717
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: dump the ball off plenty, So I feel best about him.

718
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: I considered Aaron Jones, but Aaron Jones is playing with

719
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: either Sam Darnold or a rookie quarterback so I think

720
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: that works against him a little bit. And to lq's point,

721
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: I think James Connor averages fifteen points per game. It's

722
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: just a question of how many games will we get

723
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: that out of him for. It could be eight, it

724
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: could be twelve. I doubt it'll be seventeen. But it's

725
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: just a matter of how.

726
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Many, I guess, and I had to go back and

727
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: look because I don't I didn't remember Alvin Kamara catching

728
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: as many passes last year, and I think, I think,

729
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: but I think I'm some of it because the yardage

730
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: totals were way down, right. I mean last year he

731
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: had seventy five catches for four hundred and sixty six yards.

732
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: His rookie year, he had eighty one catches. He had

733
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: six more catches for eight hundred and twenty six yards, right,

734
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean almost four hundred yards more, about three hundred

735
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: and fifty.

736
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: More yards on just six more catches.

737
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: So it just didn't feel like he was catching the

738
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: football at the same rate as he had in the past,

739
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: And so the head number is is sort of wild.

740
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: I would think that it's going to be similar, just

741
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: because I don't know that I'm buying much into the

742
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Look, they've got Chris o'lave, I like Rashid Shaheed.

743
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: You know where else where else are they going with

744
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: the football. So I guess that's sort of the thing.

745
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I still lean toward James Connor. I mean, we're talking

746
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: about averaging, right, Like, Yeah, he may not give you

747
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen games, but when he's out there, he is

748
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: still as productive as anybody. That being said, I'm also

749
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: drafting Trey Benson because I think he's going to start

750
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: getting opportunities this year. Aaron Jones I worry about just

751
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: because I don't know how good the Vikings offense is

752
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: going to be, and I think that's going to sort

753
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: of impact him. I think, you know, if they start trailing,

754
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: which is certainly possible, then you start seeing a lot

755
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: more Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, so on and so forth,

756
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: and maybe less of Aaron Jones. And I think I'm

757
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: with you, guys, Eckler. I'm just sort of out on

758
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler this year. If I'm drafting a Commander's running back,

759
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: it more often than that has been Brian Robinson because

760
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: I just I think having Jayden Daniels there as a

761
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: runner when things start to break down, is he going

762
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: to dump it off to Austin Eckler or is just

763
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: going to take off and run.

764
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 5: He's going to take off, take off and run.

765
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: So that's going to make it hard for Eckler to

766
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: get that same target share that he had all those

767
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: years with Marcus.

768
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: To your point on Kamara, he had a game last

769
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: year thirteen catches for thirty three yards.

770
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: That's gross.

771
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: I love it EPRD five yards per catch.

772
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: Those those kinds of games are what radicalized me against

773
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: full point PPR, like it really did. Like it's just

774
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: it is just gross and disgusting that like you got

775
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: what is that You got sixteen points out of just

776
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: on that alone, Like that is gross. It is unconscionable,

777
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: right it is. It's the Russell Westbrook like sitting over

778
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: in the corner eating a snack, hoping when nobody's looking, right,

779
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Like, that's like that's taking advantage

780
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: of that, Like you know you did something wrong, but

781
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: you didn't take advantage of it.

782
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: Eating a hot dog at work.

783
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: It is. It's like you know, you can't skip lunch anyway.

784
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: Let's move on, move.

785
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: On to wide receivers one wide receiver stat in here.

786
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: No wide receiver age thirty two or above has averaged

787
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: fifteen plus points per game in a season since twenty twenty.

788
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins Keenan Allen both going to hit that mark

789
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: this season, So Florida will start with you who is

790
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: more likely to average fifteen or more points per game?

791
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: CALLI obviously has thoughts on that as well. DeAndre Hopkins

792
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: are Keenan Allen. Who's the guy that's more likely to

793
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: hit that number this year?

794
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: I think it's Keenan Allen. Look Keenan last year on

795
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: a like look. I know he put up wide receiver

796
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 4: one numbers and people were saying, like, oh, it's volume based,

797
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: but like he averaged his best yards per route ran

798
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: since twenty eighteen. He on a metric base was awesome.

799
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: You can't make that same claim for DeAndre Hopkins. He

800
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: posted his worst rating catch rate EPA since twenty sixteen.

801
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: Were separation since twenty seventeen. A lot of tight window

802
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: throws and the deep ball was saving him because Will

803
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 4: Levis threw them deep ball more than anyone down the stretch,

804
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: so that kind of saved him. But this year I'm like,

805
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: is that gonna go to Calvin Ridley? Well, volume concerns

806
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: with both of them, But I feel much much better

807
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: about Keenan Allen than I do DeAndre Hopkins.

808
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: Where are you out on this one? Lakwan?

809
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with Keenan Allen also.

810
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it just seems more of a situation

811
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: where if I did have to choose where we're looking

812
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: at the situations and there's a lot of question marks

813
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: in Tennessee, but there's question marks in Chicago, but not

814
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: that many on a basis of who will be utilized

815
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: as what and who can actually execute what with said quarterback.

816
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know about Caleb, but we know

817
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: he's a generational talent.

818
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 5: That's what's labeled on him.

819
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to get too crazy with the expectations

820
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: on him, but I really think he's going to change

821
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: his Bears franchise. He's going to break that four thousand

822
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: yard record. He's going to go out there and have

823
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: a CJ. Strout like type of season. And I really

824
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: see this happening just based on the pieces that they

825
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 3: have around him. So when I look at Will Levis, yeah,

826
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: he has Tony Pollard, Tai J. Spears at the running back,

827
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: bringing Tyler Boyd to hep out and third down, DeAndre

828
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: Hopkins is still your one. But you bring in Calvin Ridley,

829
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: and that's where Florio was hitting on. I don't know

830
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 3: if he's going to be the field stretcher. I don't

831
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: know if he's going to be the guy that looks

832
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: like the new toy in the house, where DeAndre Hoffins

833
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: kind of looks like the old, aging veteran that probably

834
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: needs to switch to the slot position.

835
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: You know, my answer right now is neither.

836
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: And I went back and forth on this a long

837
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: time trying to figure it out, and what I come

838
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: down to is in Chicago, I have more confidence in

839
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: their quarterback. I have more confidence in Caleb Williams than

840
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: I do Will Levis. But there's a lot more target

841
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: competition there, right or When you've got DJ Moore and

842
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: Romo Doonze, you know Cole Komet's going to get some

843
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: occasionally as well. There's a lot more mouths to feed

844
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: in that offense. And while I do think at some

845
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: point Caleb probably does get that four thousand yard passing mark,

846
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: you know I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen

847
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: this year. But let's say he still throws for thirty

848
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: five thirty eight hundred yards. That's a pretty good season.

849
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

850
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: Is it enough to support all those three wide receivers

851
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: and then whoever else is going to get targets in

852
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: the offense On the other side, I think there's less

853
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: target competition in Tennessee. You know, there's Calvin Ridley there.

854
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: You know, Look, there is that quote floating around from

855
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins about Traylon Burks and whether or not people

856
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: are sleeping on him, and that.

857
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: Was a whole thing. Go look it up.

858
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: New clarified later what he meant by the original comment,

859
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: but the point being, there's less target competition there. But

860
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: I don't know that I trust Will Levis to get

861
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: the ball consistently to his guys. And then, as you mentioned,

862
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard and Taja Spears are going to take some

863
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: of those targets as well. I could see both these

864
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: guys sort of averaging thirteen fourteen points per game, and

865
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fine, it's not a bad season at all.

866
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know that either of them get to fifteen.

867
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: And I really thought long and hard about this about

868
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: you know which one of these guys could do it?

869
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Keenan Allen is the more likely one,

870
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: but I think in reality I don't.

871
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: I don't know that either one of them does.

872
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: No probably the correct answer, you know, me and Floria

873
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: are just flat out wrong.

874
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: Look, I think it's there.

875
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: It's all on the.

876
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 5: Table for them.

877
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: Problem with that.

878
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: But if I had to choose, if you had me

879
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: on a cliff and I had to choose between you

880
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna pick Keenan Allen.

881
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: If I had you on a cliff and this was

882
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: the question I asked you that we should probably not

883
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: be friends, and I.

884
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: Was gonna say, what scenario is someone like like you

885
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: should you should rethink your life choices if that's the

886
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: situation you find yourself in at any point.

887
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a good point for us to take a

888
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: quick break. We're to go back.

889
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: We're replaying some hype Trainer smoke screen because it's ota

890
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: season and everybody is on the hype train. So maybe

891
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: we'll try to pump the brakes a little bit and

892
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: see whether or not some of these things are for real.

893
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

894
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Everybody is hyped because OTAs are underway. We're getting slow

895
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: motion videos of guys doing basic football things, and we're

896
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: all going nuts over it because it's been a while,

897
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: well since we have seen guys doing football things. But

898
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: sometimes maybe the hype train rolls out of control. So

899
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: I put together four little headlines that I have seen

900
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: recently and we can decide whether this is actual hype

901
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: trainer we should get fired up, or that it's a

902
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: smoke screen and maybe we should pump the brakes a

903
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: little bit. So we'll start in Carolina Lakwan, where Dave

904
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Canalis said Bryce Young is quote doing fantastic in the

905
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: team's new offense. This is coming off of an awful

906
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: rookie season for Bryce Young. Now it wasn't totally his fault,

907
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: but Dave Canal is saying his quarterback is doing fantastic.

908
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: Hype trainer, smoke screen.

909
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 5: U, hype train.

910
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: I honestly do believe that he's doing better than what

911
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: he was doing last year in camp with somewhat of

912
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: a great addition and upgrade.

913
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 5: To the O line.

914
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: And now you have a guy that can separate and

915
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: actually get outside and win is Deontay Johnson.

916
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: So of course it looks a.

917
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: Lot better than what was on tape last year, because man,

918
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: it was horrendous watching everybody trying to get separated.

919
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: They could not do it.

920
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: So when you bring in a guy like Deontay Johnson

921
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: who's been able to play with mid tier to low

922
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: tier quarterbacks and able to elevate them at some times

923
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: of the game, I really feel as though I secretly

924
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: just been getting Bryce Shong later in drafts, just an

925
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: experiment on some of these bestball leagues, just to see

926
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: if Deontay Johnson can actually make him take a step forward.

927
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: And this offense in total, where you at on this

928
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: one Florida hype train.

929
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: I did not plan on becoming a Bryce Young supporter,

930
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: but here I am. I just think, look, how could

931
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: it be any worse than last year? I love Dave Canalis.

932
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: I thought that was a really good hiring. Deontay Johnson

933
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: was a great get they added to get in the

934
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: draft as well. They added to the backfield, to the

935
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 4: ole line, like they just finally look more like an

936
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 4: actual NFL offense, not what they were trying last year

937
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: with the league's worst O line. The league worst wide

938
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: receiving corn being like, all right, Bryce, go get them,

939
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: Like so we'll get that. Yeah, I'm excited for Bryce.

940
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: And while we're talking about the Panthers, Johnson is an

941
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: absolute screaming value.

942
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 5: Right now in early drafts.

943
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's funny and maybe it'll start to

944
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: change in the next couple of weeks. Was by the way,

945
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: I think this is hype trained too. I think Dave

946
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Canalis is going to get this thing turned around. We've

947
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: seen it with quarterbacks in the past, and like you

948
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: guys have both said, it can't really be worse than

949
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: what they had last year.

950
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: But I'm wondering, in the.

951
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Next couple of weeks are we going to see the

952
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: ADPs change, because I feel like that conversation has become

953
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: louder and more consistent recently that like, hey, stop sleeping

954
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: on Bryce Young, Hey stop sleeping on Deontay Johnson. So

955
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that if you have been drafting

956
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: them at a discount, do it now, because that discount

957
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: feels like it's going away because everybody is starting to

958
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: say the same thing about these guys and this Panther's offense.

959
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I.

960
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Think within reason, right, Like, I don't think anybody's sitting

961
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: here saying that like some suddenly they're gonna look like

962
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: Houston from last year, but they should be a damn

963
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: sight better than.

964
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: They were twenty twelve.

965
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 5: Absolutely for real.

966
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: FLORYA Michael Mayer talking about the Raiders offense, he's excited

967
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: about it, and he said about Brock Bowers that.

968
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: Quote, we can both do it all.

969
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: He thinks the Raiders are gonna be dangerous offensively hype

970
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: train or smoke screen.

971
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 4: Uh, hype trained. But like, because I do think like

972
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: Michael Mayer is a player that I was hoping to

973
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 4: be very excited about this summer until they drafted Brock Bowers.

974
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: But when I read this question, what I thought of.

975
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, I had like this poster

976
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 4: in my room and it was like NBA guard big men,

977
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: like the best in the league, like Kobe and Shaq,

978
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 4: Chris Weber and Mike Bibbie and then it was Alan

979
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: Iverson and to Kenby Mtumbo and it's like, WHOA, Alan

980
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: Iverson's carrying all of the water on that. That's what

981
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: this reminds me of, Like, yeah, you two can do

982
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: it all, but Brock Bowers is going to be doing

983
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 4: the heavy heavy lifting here.

984
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, your thoughts.

985
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Smoke Trein. I honestly think, you know,

986
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: he's supposed to say that. I mean, this guy doesn't

987
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 3: want to lose reps to you know, the rookie and stuff.

988
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: I think they will find a way to make it

989
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: match and make it work. I just think for fantasy

990
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 3: it's going to be a nightmare trying to figure out

991
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: what's going on week the week, and I don't think

992
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: I'm on board for that. For with a tight end,

993
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: you know, like if it was a wide receiver or

994
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: running back would be a little bit you know, more

995
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: interested into it. But trying to figure out who's going

996
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: to be doing what and what impact one player is

997
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: going to have on the other, it's no, not for me.

998
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: So I think I think it's a hype train in

999
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: the mind of Michael Mayer, like I think he's I

1000
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: think he's correct when he says we can both do

1001
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: it all, because I think they can right. Brock Bauers

1002
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: was a beast at Georgia. Michael Mayer was a beast

1003
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame, So I think in that respect he's right.

1004
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: In terms of like what's gonna actually happen. It's a

1005
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: spoke screen.

1006
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: There's just look, you got these two tight ends, and

1007
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, even if the Raiders want to play more

1008
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, more two tight end sets, do they play

1009
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: enough of them to make both these guys viable. I

1010
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: think a lot of people have pointed out that the

1011
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: last team to really do this successfully was the Patriots

1012
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: when they had Gronk and Aaron Hernandez. They also still

1013
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: have DeVante Adams, they have Jacobe Myers, and I don't

1014
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: know that any of us trust Gardner Minshew to be

1015
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: able to get the ball to these guys consistently. So

1016
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: I think Michael Mayer is very almost called him Michael

1017
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: Myers like this was Halloween. I think Michael Mayer in

1018
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: his mind is I think he's right that they both

1019
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: can do They're both really talented guys. But I think

1020
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: for fantasy, I'm not buying into this, you know, until

1021
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: I actually see it.

1022
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm in LA.

1023
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: Chargers general manager Joe Horitz said, Quentin Johnston is quote

1024
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: really going to launch in second season because Lakwan we

1025
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: all know he was stuck on the runway in his

1026
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: rookie season. So when you hear this from the Chargers

1027
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: general manager, is it hype trainer?

1028
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: Smoke screen?

1029
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 5: Smoke screen.

1030
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: You gotta show me something, put something out there for

1031
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: me to believe, man, Like, don't talk about it, just

1032
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: show me, you know, Like, I think this is a

1033
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 3: huge smoke screen. Man, I don't think people are really

1034
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: going to buy into it, just based on the bad

1035
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 3: taste that he left you with that.

1036
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: Florio, I am choosing to believe. I'm saying hype train

1037
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: because if you remember last year, I spoke about this

1038
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 4: a lot. I think Quentin Johnson was completely misused, like

1039
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 4: and he was misused not just by the Chargers, but

1040
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 4: like by everyone coming a lot of people coming into

1041
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: the NFL because you see this six ' four physical

1042
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 4: specimen and you're like, that guy can go downfield and

1043
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: win fifty to fifty balls and everything. But then when

1044
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 4: you watched his college tape, it was like, no, that's

1045
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 4: what he needs to work his game on the most,

1046
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 4: like he is a yack beast. And then Mike Williams

1047
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: got hurt and they just kind of tried to use

1048
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 4: him as Mike Williams and he was able to get

1049
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: open downfield. He had a number of dep touchdowns go

1050
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: off his hands, so he's shown the capability to get open.

1051
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: I think that hopefully he catches those this year. But

1052
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: I'm also trusting the new coaching staff to kind of

1053
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: be like, we need to use this guy a little

1054
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: bit more to his strengths. And they're building up the

1055
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: run game there and the run blocking and all of that,

1056
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 4: and I think Quinton Johnson could be a big piece

1057
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 4: there now for fantasy. I don't know if he's going

1058
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: to be the most fantasy relevant guy because the Chargers

1059
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: are going to be a very run heavy team, but

1060
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 4: I think he bounces back for real life purposes.

1061
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: At the very least.

1062
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm going smokescreen on this one, and maybe they look,

1063
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: maybe Greg Roman and Jim Harbough figure out a way

1064
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: to use him closer to what his skill set is.

1065
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: There's also the issue though, of they've got Lad McConkie

1066
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: there too, and how much are they going to overlap

1067
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: in this offense. I know our friend and wide receiver

1068
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: whisper Matt Harmon likes to always say that drops don't matter.

1069
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: They matter in the sense of when the quarterback and

1070
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: the offense loses faith in you and I think that's

1071
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: some of what we saw last year that at some

1072
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: point justin Herbert just didn't trust him. There are times

1073
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: they had to go to him because there just weren't

1074
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: other guys available at some point during the season. But

1075
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: I think when given the choice, Herbert was going elsewhere.

1076
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: And so I feel like when you hear Joe Horritz

1077
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: say this, and I think you see this a lot

1078
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: of times with coaches and general managers that when they

1079
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: make a comment about a guy in the media that

1080
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: sometimes it is really for an audience of one, it

1081
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: is for that player. And I think this is a

1082
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: situation where Horatce is saying, hey, look, we're going to

1083
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: give you every opportunity to go out there and be

1084
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: a playmaker. This is your chance to do it. Because really,

1085
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: it's a whole new regime, it's a new coach, it's

1086
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: a new GM. There is no investment from this group

1087
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: on Quinton Johnston, and they don't have any real obligation

1088
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: to force him into the offense, Like, yeah, they got

1089
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: to deal with this contract the rest of the time,

1090
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: but they don't really have to live with this guy.

1091
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: So if he doesn't perform, you know, they can move

1092
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: on a lot move on along. So, uh yeah, I

1093
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: is it. Are either of you drafting Quinton Johnston?

1094
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 2: I guess is my question?

1095
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: No, it was like crickets not.

1096
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out where his ADP is. It's

1097
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: pretty wide receiver sixty six.

1098
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 2: It's pretty sure.

1099
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: I'll take a shot on him there, all.

1100
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: Right, I guess.

1101
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 3: So that's in my home league where I can like

1102
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: be a little bit loose and play around.

1103
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 5: I'll do that.

1104
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 4: Then the wide receivers going right after him, or Ricky

1105
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: Pearson and Darnel Mooney, I'm like, I'll take a gamble.

1106
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: Take a shower which side. Note, by the way, you're

1107
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: talking about drafting him in your home league. I don't

1108
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: know if either of you have this issue, But because

1109
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: you know we obviously we do.

1110
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: A lot of drafts. We do a lot of mock drafts.

1111
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: We draft with other people in this industry who spend

1112
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: a lot of time studying this. Do either of you

1113
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: find yourselves out smarting yourself in your home leagues where

1114
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: you're like digging for these like sleepers who like work

1115
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: well in you know, deep deep leagues that maybe like

1116
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: you pressure just let the loan in your home league,

1117
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: did ever happened? Sometimes or you're just like Galaxy Brain're

1118
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, no, I love this dude, Like okay,

1119
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: like you know, they might take an injury for me

1120
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: to get on the field, but he's really gonna pop.

1121
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: And then like you realize it, like I'm in like

1122
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: a ten team league with like you know, three guys

1123
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: on the bench.

1124
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: Like, I think I went a little too deep.

1125
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: I did the exact opposite. Last year. I underestimated my

1126
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: home league is is we still have like a pretty

1127
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: deep roster and everything. And uh, I was like, I

1128
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 4: don't need to take Pookah here. I'll get him in

1129
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: the next round. No one knows about Pookah in this league.

1130
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: And like the guy who's like the Taco of our

1131
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: league took Pooka and.

1132
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: I was shocked, Oh my god, man, that sucks.

1133
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 5: I never I never get players in my home league

1134
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 5: with my friends.

1135
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: I never get any of them, Like even down to

1136
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: the kicker when Greg Zuryline was on the rams that

1137
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: he will be gone ten rown.

1138
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 5: Like what are you doing here? Like why.

1139
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 4: Your players all go for a premium in my home league?

1140
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah I would, I would I if I was in

1141
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: your league. Lak one.

1142
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: I would probably take rams players and then try to

1143
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: trade them to you for a preview.

1144
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I immediately after the draft over a lot of you.

1145
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: Not it's always one person like, yeah, I got Matthew Stafford.

1146
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, Like what do you want?

1147
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 4: Nothing?

1148
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: I got that Stafford pack what you want for it? Like,

1149
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: you know for real? Uh?

1150
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: Last one here, Bears running backs coach Chad Morton fight

1151
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: On Uh said he's excited about using DeAndre Swift as

1152
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: a pass catcher out of the backfield. Lakwan hype trainer

1153
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: smoke screen on this.

1154
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 4: Uh, it's a little bit of both.

1155
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: I mean we've seen Deandres Swift get utilized in the

1156
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: past game, you know, pretty much throughout every venture with

1157
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: the Lines and the Eagles is just not as often

1158
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: as what we would like. But there's a lot of

1159
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 3: mouse to feed on that offense, you know, going into

1160
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: the season. So I would take that with a sand

1161
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: grain of wow sand Yeah, there you go. I can't

1162
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: speak right now, but I really feel as though, like, yes,

1163
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: he'll be utilizing in the past game. He's excited to

1164
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: get him involved, but I just don't think it'll be

1165
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: such a huge impact for us. To see DeAndre Schiff

1166
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: as this RB one as a consistent basis to be

1167
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: a guy that's going to be putting up major points.

1168
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 3: He's going to be utilized, He's going to be mixing

1169
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: to the offense. It's just a lot going on there

1170
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: to where he's not going to be the premier player there.

1171
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Flora, we saw one or two years

1172
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: in Detroit when Swift caught a lot of passes. Last

1173
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: year in Philly was kind of eh. I mean, does

1174
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: this have some merit what Chad Morton is saying.

1175
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: I think so. I do think DeAndre Swift can be

1176
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 4: utilized there. I think his biggest competition is Roshan Johnson probably,

1177
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: But the fact that the Bears invested in him right

1178
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 4: away and gave him the money that they did on

1179
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: the minute free agency dropped leads me to believe that

1180
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 4: at least early on, he'll get the opportunities where what

1181
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 4: he does with them will dictate if he continues to

1182
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 4: get them all year, and if he struggles, they have

1183
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: other options there. But like heading into Week one, I

1184
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 4: think Swift is going to get the large majority of

1185
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 4: opportunities in that back.

1186
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say I'm buying into it.

1187
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when the running back coaches think

1188
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: he's excited about it, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going

1189
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: to happen. But I do think that it's a skill

1190
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: set that they do want to utilize. I don't know,

1191
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, like last year they kept saying they're going

1192
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: to try to throw the ball more to Khalil Herbert,

1193
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: and that never really happened.

1194
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 5: So I think Swift that's weird.

1195
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: I think Swift actually does take that over. So how

1196
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: much it happens remains to be seen. But I actually

1197
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: do think they're going to start using him in that

1198
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: capacity coming up this year. But as we have all said,

1199
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: a lot of guys there that can catch the football

1200
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and how they can work that around we'll

1201
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: find out for sure. So good place for us to

1202
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: take a pause for this week. Of course, we'll have

1203
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: the cheat sheet for you on Thursday. Special guest Steve

1204
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Weisch right scheduled to join us. You can see across

1205
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: the network on in a variety of capacities, but Steve

1206
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: a great guy. Looking forward to having him on. Also,

1207
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: we will debut the film festival I guess not the

1208
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: Floyal film Festival for this first one, because you've seen.

1209
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 4: Draft day, right, I watched it last month.

1210
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm watching it tonight.

1211
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: I'm so, I got the popcorn ready, I'm I'm locked in.

1212
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: So the quand will be watching.

1213
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: The film Festival will also put out the poll of

1214
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: like what genre we should do, so you guys can

1215
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: vote on that and let us know if we stay

1216
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: with nineties action movies or if we do something else.

1217
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: We'll figure that part out.

1218
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 4: Patrick claibhn said, we should do rom coms.

1219
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, interesting.

1220
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: I am not I know some. I'm not super well

1221
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: versed in them, so maybe this is Maybe this is good.

1222
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: We can all sort of get something. We're all kind

1223
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: of out of our out of our depth a little bit.

1224
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: I might just shut down the voting and just do

1225
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: rom That feels like a good idea. Now, we will

1226
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: put it out there, We'll let you guys vote on

1227
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: it what we should do for this summer. But in

1228
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: the meantime, that'll do it for this edition of the

1229
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Thanks to Susie uh On for

1230
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: putting this together for us. Stay happy, save and healthy,

1231
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: do good and live well, watch the movies. Talk to

1232
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: you on Thursday. Everybody see it.

1233
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: Then Wong w