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Speaker 1: The second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, as

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Speaker 1: any crime for that matter. I don't know what it

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Speaker 1: We've also got our friend Ryan Gerdusky whose podcast is

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Speaker 1: doing great, a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of you really enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: It's putting on his full data nerd hat and going

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Speaker 1: It's a numbers game. But Clay, I remember the first

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Speaker 1: and I looked something like a wooly mammoth. Did you

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Speaker 1: have the full like no haircut thing for a long time?

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Speaker 1: So unfair. I should probably share. I have a photo

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Speaker 2: You couldn't get a haircut in New York.

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Speaker 2: And I remember this. There was a time everybody was listening.

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Speaker 1: To Dave Matthews playing their Hackey sack, wearing their birken

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Speaker 2: But to your point, you're basically in a high rise

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Speaker 1: Yes, and uh and I couldn't even get a haircut

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I mean TikTok It's January nineteenth is the date,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jar, I mean, I have learned my

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Speaker 2: Not to mention you're incredible dancer now thanks to TikTok. Wow,

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Speaker 2: stop laughing about you just doing step. There's like step aerobics.

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Speaker 1: bunch of callers want to weigh in on the TikTok situation.

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Speaker 1: It is Ray, I were just talking about this. It's

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Speaker 3: Jacob, Hey, hap'pter be and gentlemen, So I did just

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Speaker 2: doesn't have access to China. Facebook doesn't have access to China.

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Speaker 2: All of those companies effectively have clones that exist in China,

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Speaker 2: and those are Chinese owned companies that then create business

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Speaker 2: create opportunities there. My big thing is if we don't

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Speaker 2: have mutuality of competition in the same way that we

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Speaker 2: have similar in theory tariffs going back and forth, try

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Speaker 2: to create free trade, we don't have free big tech trade,

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Speaker 2: and so I don't want China building huge businesses in

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Speaker 2: the United States and not allowing the United States to

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Speaker 2: do the same in the media space.

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Speaker 6: See.

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Speaker 2: I find that argument compelling and I agree.

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Speaker 1: With that that as far as I know, though, it

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with why they're forcing the sale, right,

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Speaker 1: this isn't about unfair Chinese trade practice.

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Speaker 2: Well, what policy has been that they would be able

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Speaker 2: to stay open if they had United States ownership, So

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Speaker 2: the company would still exist as it is if they sold,

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Speaker 2: and they don't have to sell the whole company. They

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Speaker 2: just have to sell the US assets.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but they have said TikTok is based in

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Speaker 1: I think California, and they have said that that TikTok

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Speaker 1: that you operate, you deal with in America is run

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Speaker 1: by people who live in America, by US citizens on

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Speaker 1: US servers, on you know, it's about just foreign ownership, right,

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's like the Byte Dance, Right, it's

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Speaker 1: byt dances.

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Speaker 2: The majority stake of TikTok.

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Speaker 1: And you sit there, you say, okay, So they could

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Speaker 1: certainly try to influence the US based company, but also

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Speaker 1: how much are they really going to do that? What

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Speaker 1: kind of problems would that cause for them if that

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Speaker 1: came out? Like I just I don't see what is it?

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Speaker 1: Me and Jamal Bowman, right, were the only.

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Speaker 2: Job I Actually, I think your argument is strong in this.

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Speaker 2: You now, maybe it's gonna change because Trump won. Certainly

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Speaker 2: we're seeing a change at Facebook and we've seen a

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Speaker 2: change at Twitter. YouTube is horribly bal biased in favor

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Speaker 2: of the left right, and that's why Rumble came to

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Speaker 2: exist because you and I remember they took down our

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Speaker 2: interview with Rand Paul. They took down our interview with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. They wouldn't allow us to share the interview

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Speaker 2: that we did with both elected officials on YouTube in

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Speaker 2: the last couple Thank you for reminding me of what

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Speaker 2: has been my most compelling argument. I haven't brought this yet,

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Speaker 2: but it's absolutely true, which is that Google is a

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Speaker 2: much bigger threat to all of you listening to this

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Speaker 2: right now. Google is a much bigger threat to your freedoms,

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Speaker 2: your constitutional rights than anything TikTok has been up to.

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Speaker 2: I can assure you of that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the enemy within is far more concerning to me

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Speaker 1: than what Beijing can do working through a proxy that

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Speaker 1: has a lot of people, you know, posting content that's

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Speaker 1: pretty No, it's Americans posting the content too. This Like

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Speaker 1: I know, I've actually and that a couple of TikTok influencers,

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Speaker 1: Like I know some of these people, and you know

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Speaker 1: they're not getting their marching instructions from China.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not like a edity full of Chinese nationals

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Speaker 1: is trying to explain American politics to us. It's like

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Speaker 1: kids who grew up in Cincinnati who are doing dance

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Speaker 1: and and you know, teaching.

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Speaker 2: Buck how to dance in his in his apartment by himself.

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Speaker 2: I will say that my solution here, which seems like

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Speaker 2: a very reasonable one. In addition to Buck having to

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Speaker 2: go on TikTok and post the dance himself that he

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Speaker 2: was learning, which is hysterical to me, I think the

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Speaker 2: easy solution is that there is American ownership of TikTok

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Speaker 2: based company. And if I just think about this rationally,

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Speaker 2: if I owned substantial assets in TikTok America and those

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Speaker 2: assets are worth let's say, I don't think it's crazy

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Speaker 2: one hundred billion dollars, right. I don't think that's a

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Speaker 2: crazy dollar figure to think that TikTok based on its

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Speaker 2: penetration market size, the things that we've been talking about,

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Speaker 2: and even in this audience, so we're going to take

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Speaker 2: some more your calls. A lot of you were on TikTok,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's crazy to think that's one hundred

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Speaker 2: billion dollar company. Typically, if your company faces a choice

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Speaker 2: between hey, that one hundred billion dollar valuation can vanish,

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Speaker 2: or you can get your money and sell it to

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Speaker 2: someone else, the rational outcome here is that they would

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Speaker 2: sell this asset to someone else in America, and it

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Speaker 2: would continue to run just a few things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now, to be fair, this was put out

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Speaker 1: by by TikTok, but I don't think, you know, putting

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Speaker 1: out lies that would be disprovable would not serve their

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Speaker 1: interest in this in this matter. But TikTok's parent company,

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Speaker 1: byte Dance, was founded by Chinese entrepreneurs, but roughly sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of the company is owned by global institutional investors

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Speaker 1: like the Carlisle Group, General Atlantic, Susquehanna International. An additional

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Speaker 1: twenty percent of the company is owned by Bytdance employees

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Speaker 1: around the world, including nearly seven thousand Americans. Remaining twenty

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Speaker 1: percent is owned by the company's founder, who is a

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Speaker 1: private individual not part of any state or government entergy.

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Speaker 1: Now I think you can push back. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: if the twenty percent is owned by a guy in China,

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Speaker 1: the Chinese government gets to call the shots with that

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Speaker 1: twenty percent. To be clear, there's no such thing as

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Speaker 1: a separation of public and private in China. So that's

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Speaker 1: where the TikTok fact sheet here, you know, leaves a

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Speaker 1: little bit out, but you know, just to show some

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Speaker 1: of what you know, some of what's on here seems

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Speaker 1: to be to me at least indicating that it has more.

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Speaker 2: Diverse ownership than people really people realize.

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Speaker 1: Look, I just I always think of the clay of

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Speaker 1: the precedent that these kinds of things set, and to say,

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Speaker 1: I don't like the ownership of this company, so it

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Speaker 1: has to be you know, because it's partially foreign, and

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Speaker 1: so it has to be sold. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: a This is a government intrusion on the marketplace. This

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Speaker 1: is not a marketplace first mechanism. And to meybe just

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Speaker 1: remember what the other side likes to do when they

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Speaker 1: can just call the shots on things.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me also point this out because I think

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Speaker 2: it's a Again, this is why I don't think this

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Speaker 2: lines up in a typical left right dynamic. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I think you're likely to see some form of left

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Speaker 2: and right agreement as to whether or not the government

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Speaker 2: can can ban TikTok. I think there'll be different different resolutions,

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Speaker 2: different opinions that are drafted from a variety of perspectives.

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Speaker 2: Let me just ask you this, because this is this

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Speaker 2: is ultimately what I find to be the crux of

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Speaker 2: the case. How do you define media in today's day

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Speaker 2: and age? And that's a big, big picture question. And

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Speaker 2: let's analogize here. If the New York Times, which you

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Speaker 2: and I agree is a super left wing biased company,

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Speaker 2: put itself on the market and instead of the Sulzberger family,

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Speaker 2: which I think owns it in the New York City area,

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Speaker 2: instead of that, a Chinese based company bought The New

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Speaker 2: York Times, I think everybody would say, that's unacceptable. We're

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Speaker 2: not going to allow that, right, So that would be

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it could be a Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 2: it could be Fox News, it could be choose your defined,

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Speaker 2: definite media outlet. Where does TikTok fall in the media universe,

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Speaker 2: because I think most of you out there would say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal can't be owned by a foreigner.

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Speaker 2: This is why, to a large extent, Ruper Murdoch became

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Speaker 2: an American citizen is because American media ownership rules require

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Speaker 2: that American citizens own our media companies, because otherwise the

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Speaker 2: fear is that you get George Soros and you have

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Speaker 2: some guy come in and you start to diabolically pull streams.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's the question, where does TikTok rank

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Speaker 2: on the media flowchart? Because that also factors in here.

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Speaker 1: Well, what you're also seeing though, is in the digital era,

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Speaker 1: perhaps more so than ever, information is a national security issue.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean classified information. I mean the distribution

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Speaker 1: of information. I mean mass media. Shaping perception at scale

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Speaker 1: is now a national security concern because if you can

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Speaker 1: influence people, especially let's say, if you're China, you want

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Speaker 1: to influence US population.

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Speaker 2: Do we really care about Taiwan? Is Taiwan really are?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Is that really something we need to be so concerned about?

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Speaker 1: Now you could say that that will take time, and yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: China thinks in long term, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways that you can manipulate public opinion. You can kind

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Speaker 1: of manufacture a consensus of sorts. So that's that's you.

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Speaker 2: Know, you see what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yes, No, I think it's it's we can all understand, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can't have a company selling missiles like advanced missile

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Speaker 1: technology to Iran.

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Speaker 2: We understand that, right, clear national security implication.

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Speaker 1: Now it's we can't have a company that does a

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Speaker 1: lot of US generated content that's too popular because their

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Speaker 1: algorithm that they use may shift perception broadly on political

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Speaker 1: issues in a way that is not advantageous.

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Speaker 2: To the US. Do you see this. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think it kind of gets crystallized. I think you've talked

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Speaker 2: about this before on the show. You can be watching CNN,

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Speaker 2: which is allowed to broadcast in China, and when they

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Speaker 2: discuss anything China related that they don't like, the television

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Speaker 2: just goes black. Like you know, CNN International Watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you also like all you have to know

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Speaker 1: about seeing an international is that the play it in

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Speaker 1: countries where they absolutely hate America.

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Speaker 2: Tells you a lot about CNN.

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Speaker 1: You turn it on, you go, oh, America is the

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Speaker 1: bad guy according to CNN International.

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Speaker 2: A lot of that, but it is interesting right to

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Speaker 2: think about they basically individual segments have Chinese censors who

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Speaker 2: will just block it out. You can't get you know,

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Speaker 2: the site that I sold to Fox, you can't get

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Speaker 2: out kick in China. We're banned that you cannot pull Now.

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Speaker 2: I know people have VPNs and they get smart and

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Speaker 2: they figure out a way to pull it up. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a sports focused website, but we've been

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Speaker 2: critical of China to such an extent associated with sports,

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Speaker 2: you can't even pull it up.

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Speaker 1: I also just think, you know, people, people have become

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Speaker 1: very distrustful of big pharma, for example, and in the

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Speaker 1: post COVID shot era. I think there's more reason than

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Speaker 1: ever for that, although Big Farmer actually does do a

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Speaker 1: lot of important things which I like to remind everybody of.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone people like their stating drugs. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: really important stuff that's being done. People like their cancer

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Speaker 1: drugs when they really need them. You know, there's it's

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Speaker 1: not just a downside with with big pharma, big media,

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Speaker 1: I mean, or big social media you can't trust you

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Speaker 1: look at like Google and YouTube and all this.

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Speaker 2: I think they want TikTok on. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think that's certainly true because they like thet off

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Speaker 1: members of Congress. Yeah, I think they've bought off members

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Speaker 1: of Congress. Google look at the Google money, and I

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Speaker 1: think on both sides, man, Google is the most powerful

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Speaker 1: company in the world right now, pretty much.

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Speaker 2: I think that's true. We'll come back, We'll take some

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Speaker 2: more of your calls. I'm actually impressed at how many

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Speaker 2: of you are committed to using TikTok even from a

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Speaker 2: variety of perspectives. Eight hundred and two A two two

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Speaker 2: eight A two. Maybe one of you has seen buck

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Speaker 2: dancing imagine living in a country under constant assault from

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Speaker 2: all sides, having to endure thousands of missile attacks, evacuating

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Speaker 2: the bomb shelters on a regular basis, overall thread of

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Speaker 2: terror always hovering everywhere you go. That's what it's like

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Speaker 2: in Israel right now. I was just there last month.

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Speaker 2: You're driving by bomb shelters. In any moment you might

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show, closing up

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Speaker 2: the shop here. We've got a couple of guests coming

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Speaker 2: you guys are really diving into so many of the

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Speaker 2: We'll break down and discuss all of that. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: continue deluged with emails from you guys who are on TikTok,

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Speaker 2: and the responses are super interesting. And for the most part,

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Speaker 2: you are getting served videos from that niche. So for Buck,

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Speaker 2: it might be new dance moves. For some of you

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Speaker 1: Or it might be firearms tips and room clearing play

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Speaker 1: or edge weapons tactics in close corners. Okay, don't don't

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Speaker 1: pigeonhole me into the shuffle dance only I think.

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Speaker 2: It's just does Carrie know about your dance moves? Is this?

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Speaker 2: I know she was just talking to a soft air here.

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Speaker 2: Is she aware before Carrie was in the picture? Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, has she seen the moves? Has she seen

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Speaker 2: the moves? That's the question. You're gonna have to break

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Speaker 1: Some shuffle dance at the Trump Ball? Maybe now, maybe,

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Speaker 1: if the people demand it, it could happen.

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 2: ask Andy what he thinks about the TikTok Supreme Court

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