1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number one Tay. 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: In the show, Dan and I are sharing with you 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: are hunting experiences from the past couple of weeks, the ups, 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the downs, and the lessons learn All right, welcome to 8 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sitka Gear. 9 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: And today in the show, we have two stories of 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen white Tail rut. One is of 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: resounding success and the other is of utter despair. Come on, man, 12 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: it's not that bad. One is Dan Johnson's and one 13 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: is mine. But quickly, before we get to these stories 14 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: and lessons learned, we need to thank our partners at 15 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: sick of Gear for the support of this podcast and today, 16 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: rather than our usual short sick of story, this entire 17 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: podcast will be a sick of story, as all the 18 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: hunts you'll hear about today from Dan and I took 19 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: place while wearing our sick of So if you personally 20 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: would like to learn more about Sitka's technical hunting apparel, 21 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: which has helped me and Dan whether the element successfully 22 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: over the recent days. Head on over to Sick of 23 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Gear dot com and now, Dan, tell me, how are 24 00:01:50,200 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: you feeling right now? WHOA yes, sir, No, man, I'm happy. 25 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: It's it's when it's just it's crazy, just so many emotions, um, 26 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: and you know things that go through your head after 27 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: you after you shoot a deer, and you know, you 28 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: think about what you've done the past, what you've done wrong, 29 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: what you've done right. Um, you know what you've you know, 30 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: and then it's like the day passes and now I'm 31 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: already thinking about two thousand seventeen. So it's just it's crazy. 32 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm super excited for you. And if 33 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: anyone hasn't been following social media, they're probably freaking out 34 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: right now and wondering what exactly happened. And we will 35 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: get to that. Um, but I don't know, Dan, I 36 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: kind of want to hear about what's going on with 37 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: you first, because you've got the best stories to share. 38 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Do you want to start from the beginning with like 39 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: way back since we last talked, and then just like 40 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: take us up through what's happened most recently with your hunts. Right. Um, sure, 41 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: oh man, when was when was the last time we talked? 42 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: Because I actually missed a buck or hit a limb 43 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: or something. It was one of the I'll just kind 44 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: of tell the story because we haven't talked about that yet. 45 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: I think we we haven't talked since like the end 46 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: of October, because we had recorded that one early. It's 47 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: been like a good ten to fourteen days since we've 48 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: actually got new new stuff, right right, Well, I just 49 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: want to kind of tell a really quick story before 50 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: I go into into that one I had. I had 51 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity my stepdad. I was actually back home hunting 52 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: my main farm, and I brought my daughter with me 53 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: and she was hanging out with my mom, her grandma, 54 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: and my my stepdad that morning shot a buck on 55 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: the property that they live on. It's only seven acres 56 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: and there it was just it's just a little you know, 57 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: a little spike basically, Uh, that's cool. Actually, there's a 58 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: law in Iowa. And he didn't know it because when 59 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: it came through it was really dark and it was 60 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: us I mean, there was one two inches of bone, uh, 61 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: sticking out of his head. He thought it was a 62 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: dough and he shot it. But the rule, the rule 63 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: in Iowa is you can put your dough tag on 64 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: it if the antlers are not forked. So um so 65 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: that he didn't see it. He thought it was a 66 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: dough He had a dough tag luckily when he shot it. 67 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: So all that played out fine, legal and all that. 68 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: But the cool thing about that was was I helped, 69 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, I take some I took some pictures. I 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: helped him track the blood trail. He only went about 71 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: fifty yards. And I had the opportunity to take my daughter, 72 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: who's three years old, out and my my mom carried 73 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: her into the woods after we found the deer, and 74 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: um just to see the look on her face, and 75 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: she asked so many questions, and you know, it's kind 76 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: of it's almost like I wish I had more to 77 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: say to her because I, as as a father, I 78 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: was ill prepared for that moment on my life. It's like, so, Daddy, 79 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: is this buck dead or this dear dead? Yes, honey, 80 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: why did they kill it? Because you know they're taught, 81 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can't hurt things. You're not supposed to 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: hurt other humans or hit or kick, you know, or 83 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: or bite, So why did Grandpa kill this deer. I'm like, well, 84 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: Grandpa killed this deer to turn it into meat for 85 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, our you know, for our food so we 86 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: can eat it. You know, it provides us food. And 87 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: she's like okay, and then you know I had to 88 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: tell her, you know, just kind of working. You know, 89 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: God created these animals for us and um, and you know, 90 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: it's our responsibility to you know, when we shoot them. 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: We got to put a good shot on them so 92 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: they don't go very far. And you know, and she's 93 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: just asking, you know, questions about the broad head and 94 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: she's like, is this is this what poked the deer? 95 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: And you know, I just it was it was a 96 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: first for me and I thought that was it was 97 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: really cool. That is that is so cool? Did she 98 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: did she ask you anything that you didn't know how 99 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: to answer? Um? Is the buck? Did the buck die? 100 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Or is the buck dead? Or is the dear dead? 101 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Is the dear dead? I'm just like, yeah, the deer's 102 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: the deer's dead. She's like, oh, that's sad. You know. 103 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: So there was emotion involved. There was a little bit 104 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: more emotion for her involved in it. Um, And you know, 105 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: there there wasn't a lot of blood because it was 106 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: a good shot and he fell over fairly quickly, and 107 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, I wiped the blood off of his nose 108 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: before before she got there, and um, you know, I 109 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: just had to basically shoot from the hip and try 110 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: to figure out what to say right then and there. 111 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: And I think I did a decent job of just 112 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: telling her, you know, you know, we're gonna we're gonna 113 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: turn this into food so we can eat it with 114 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: our you know, potatoes and carrots and you know, so 115 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah, I imagine that's got to be just 116 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: like one of the coolest things, Like when I think 117 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: about future kids, that's like warm of the types of 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: things that I imagine being like, so, I don't know, 119 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: so filling, being able to share moments like that, right, 120 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: And it was cool. My mom was there and my 121 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: stepdad was there and they got to experience it's that 122 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: little moment too. And I took some pictures and I 123 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: haven't posted him yet, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna post 124 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: him here in a little bit of her just like 125 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: the expressions on her face like oh my gosh, this 126 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: is this is this is cool. But you know, I 127 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: don't know like she she liked it, but she wasn't 128 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: like overboard like my son. I just know when I 129 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: do that with him, he's gonna be like riding it, 130 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, touching it and you know, like patting it 131 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. She was just a little leary 132 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: of that of it. So, um, I gotta do my part. 133 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Like when I when I told her that I shot 134 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: my buck this year, she was, oh, yeah, Dad, good job. 135 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: You know you shot him. You shot him, You shot 136 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: a big buck. That's awesome Dad. I'm like, yeah, we're 137 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: gonna turn it into food so we can eat it. Yeah, 138 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat me, you know. So she was all 139 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: jacked up about that and that, uh, that was pretty cool. 140 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So did she see your buck too? Um, 141 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: she never got to see it because I took it 142 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: to the taxidermist before I ended up bringing it back home, 143 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: but I showed her pictures and she's like, oh, that's cool. 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot a buck someday to dad, right, right, dad, right? 145 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you are, come on, you're 146 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: old enough. You can come hunting with daddy. That would 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: be pretty cool. Yeah. So that I just wanted to 148 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: share that story because you know, oftentimes we talk a 149 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: lot about strategy on this and you know, how to 150 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: actually kill the deer. But it's the moments like that 151 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: for me now as a father, that have a little 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: light shine on them as well. So that's great. I 153 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that story. Now let's let's 154 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: forget about all that bs right, let's talk about let's 155 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: talk about the meat and potatoes. Um, okay. So I 156 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: ended up going back home, uh for a couple you know, 157 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: for the last week of work. I ended up working 158 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: a Monday, and it was that weekend before Halloween. I 159 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: it was my very first morning hunt on my buddy 160 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: Buddy's property, and uh, the evening before I saw an 161 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: absolute giant buck um just like four yards away on 162 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: a neighboring property. He was in one of the guy's 163 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: food food plots. He's a he's got like a hundred 164 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: forty acres over there, and it's it's basically no timber, 165 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: but it's all food plot. So it's standing corn. It's 166 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: like those tripod houses, those hunting houses, and uh, I 167 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: think he muzzleloaded hunts. He lets a couple of guys 168 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: bow hunt over there, and there's a tree line at 169 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: all these deer come through. Well, there's a sliver of 170 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: property that runs between the property that I can hunt 171 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: in the property where all these deer coming I have 172 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: a sliver. It's it's basically this giant pinch point that 173 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I talked about on my buddy's property that all the 174 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: deer work through. And I think, um, I've told you 175 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: in previous podcast last year, I was having trouble trying 176 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: to figure out how this wind, this wind goes back 177 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: and forth. So what I found was I have to 178 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,239 Speaker 1: get into the low spots and I have to basically 179 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: hunt these stands where a north and a south wind 180 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: are both bad. So not only am I the wind 181 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: direct because the wind direction comes like a tide. It 182 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: goes back and then it goes forth when the wind 183 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: blows hard, you know, So if it's if it's a 184 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: north wind, I'll have a pretty consistent north wind. But 185 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: when the wind dies down, it's like everything floods back 186 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: down to the low ground. Right. So I have to 187 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: hunt this area where a north wind is bad and 188 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: a south wind is bad, Meaning I have to go 189 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: in there for only a south wind, but I have 190 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: to know that the south the south and the north 191 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: are both bad. So you're just praying that they come 192 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: from the east or west. No, I'm praying that they 193 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: walk through because the pinch point so tight. I'm praying 194 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: that they come through that exact pinch point. And I 195 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: have a shooting lane to the north, and I have 196 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: a shooting lane to the south. So if there's an 197 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: east wind, I'm screwed. If there's a west wind, I'm screwed. 198 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: But I have to so I have basically I figured 199 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: out that's basically to tree stand locations. And if they 200 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: come from if they come too high to the south, 201 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: if they if they come through to the north, they're 202 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: not gonna really bust me because they're they're clear on 203 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: the other side of the property, past the creek, and 204 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: they walk through that ozonic streme and they don't they 205 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: don't hear nothing, and they don't smell nothing. However, these 206 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: deer are hunted hard, um. And I think I told you. 207 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: I had a dough step out at about a hundred 208 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: and twenty yards from me and walk out in this 209 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: little grassy area which is somebody's backyard, and just you know, 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: kind of feed towards me. And I did not move 211 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,239 Speaker 1: one muscle and she pegged me at like a hundred 212 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: at a hundred yards. So I'm just like, oh my god, 213 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: how did she I didn't do anything, but she pegged me. 214 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: The wind isn't in her favor. That's just how spooky 215 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: these these deer are. You know they they are so 216 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: observant because they get hunted quite a bit in this area. So, UM, 217 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: let's fast forward to the good part. Um that first 218 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: morning that I was able to hunt on my buddy's property. Um. 219 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: The previous night, I passed a little uh, he's I 220 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: think he's an eight point or probably UM class three 221 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: year old. Nothing, nothing exciting. The next morning he came 222 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: through again and I was I passed him, but following 223 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: right behind him, all I saw was a big dark 224 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: body and then I saw I put my binonos up 225 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: and through what I could From what I could see, 226 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: there was these huge bases. Um, and so I go, oh, 227 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: that looks like a shooter. And it was one of 228 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: these things where I was so caught up in the 229 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: moment that I did not do a very good job 230 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: of observing the actual body size of this buck. I 231 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever done that, And you just 232 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: like you're so you're so focused on I gotta kill, 233 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: I gotta kill, I gotta kill. And and so he 234 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: came up, he made a scrape. Well, between the time 235 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: he made a scrape and um, the time that he 236 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: was going to follow this other buck out through one 237 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: of my shooting lanes, three does came in behind me 238 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: and busted me moving and they blew and they blew 239 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: and they booked and then they ended up just kind 240 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: of walking away from me. Um. But it's crazy out 241 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: there because the deer blows so much that the bucks 242 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: don't even care about it. So here he was just chilling. 243 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: Of course, he of course he was focused right on 244 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: this uh these does, and he was like, okay, what's 245 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: the problem because he doesn't smell me, he doesn't see me. Um, 246 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: all these uh, all these uh does are blowing and 247 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: he's like, what's what's going on? These women are just crazy. 248 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: So they work their way away and he kind of 249 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: puts his nose to the ground. He's looking at this 250 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: buck and he's looking in this direction. And I haven't 251 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to stand up quite yet, because as 252 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm standing up, these does bust me. So I slowly 253 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: sit back down and just kind of waited out, thinking 254 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: the hunts over does work their way. I stand up, 255 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: grabbed my bow, and this buck starts working out again. 256 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: And uh, he's in a shooting lane. I see his antlers, 257 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: they're out to his ears there there. Um, I don't know, 258 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: and he's maybe a one ten one, but I but 259 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: I swear to he looked one sixty right all day long. 260 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know, I was just so fired 261 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: up because it was the first interaction. It's almost like 262 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: I forgot everything that I learned in the last you know, 263 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years of bow hunting, right, It's like, what 264 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: did what did you learn? Nothing? It's a big but 265 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I gotta shoot it, and uh, I drew back, I 266 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: let the arrow go, and I something happened. I either 267 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: just got buck fever and shanked it. But when I 268 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: found the arrow, the the broadhead was off of it 269 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: and the knock was off of it. So I think 270 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: I hit a branch or or something. Well. Checking the 271 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: trail cameras and and and after watching him run away, 272 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: I was It sucks to say, but I'm glad I 273 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: missed him and missed him clean. You know, I didn't 274 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: hit him, I didn't wound him. Um, I missed him clean. 275 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: And after I looked at trail camera pictures, I'm like, 276 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: that's a three year old, right, So I'm just like, 277 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean maybe I won't tell anybody about this, huh. 278 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: I know that feeling. So how are you feeling? Right 279 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: after that, though, I was pissed. I called my wife 280 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I missed I just missed big Buck. 281 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: And and that was before I looked at Joe camera 282 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: pictures and found out this Buck was not a shooter. 283 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: And she's like, why did you miss? I wish I 284 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: wish I knew rights. So that was that was one 285 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: of the one of these encounters were it's you know, 286 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: it taught me something because it helped me down the 287 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: road this year. So imagine you know, in like the 288 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: hours after that, like you're thinking through everything that went that, 289 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: everything that happened, everything that went wrong, Like, did you 290 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: analyze it and figure out anything you like other than 291 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the possibility that you hit a limb? Was there anything 292 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: that you told yourself I think I should have done 293 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: this differently, or I think I could do this better. 294 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: Was there anybody like aha, moment for you after like 295 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: replaying in your head. Yeah, and I think I think 296 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: I right up rush the shot, straight up my my 297 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: own fault. Um. I think I tried to pull off 298 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: a shot where the deer may have already seen me 299 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: or was on edge because those doors were blowing. Um 300 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: or the fact that I got I got buck fever 301 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: and straight up rushed to the shot. That's the you know, 302 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: just admitting that I made a mistake. Yeah, man, I 303 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: think it happens to just about all of us. I 304 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: don't think there's a few people maybe other they're just 305 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: stone cold. But but it's pretty hard to always have 306 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: composed in those moments. You know, we always got we 307 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: always try to get better, but it's pretty hard to 308 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: be perfect, that's for sure. Yep, that's a fact. That's 309 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: a fact. But I'm glad it was a clean mess. 310 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: That's the perfect that's the best possible scenaire to come 311 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: out of that. That's right. That's right. So I go 312 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: back to work on Monday. Um, I end up going 313 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: trick or treating with my uh wife and kids. Didn't 314 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: hunt it all on Monday on Halloween, which I wish 315 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: I would have. Because I go back and I checked 316 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: my trail cameras and there's a stud buck walking through 317 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: at like two yeah, um Halloween through that pinch point 318 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: and midday movement. Um. So anyway that that passed, I 319 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: went back out there um that evening and haunted again. 320 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: And uh I got into the timber on November one 321 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: at about um oh jeez, I don't even know, like 322 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: one thirty two o'clock. So at about three o'clock, I 323 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: saw this, the buck that I actually missed, walk through 324 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: this back through this area, you know, three days after 325 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: I missed him, and head to that those fields passed 326 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: a couple other small bucks out of this pinch point. 327 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: And uh then the next morning, because of that wind, 328 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: and I was and I ended up having to move 329 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: move farms, I had a bad win, so I didn't 330 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: hunt that morning. So I decided, okay, November one, I'm 331 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna go back down to my main farm and I'll 332 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: hunt that evening. So I get to my main farm, 333 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: uh pretty early, I checked a whole bunch of trail cameras. Um, 334 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: and through flipping through these trail cameras on uh see 335 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: it would have been November one, I ended up seeing 336 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: a mature buck working a field edge captured on among 337 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: my trail cameras. So as a hunter, I'm like, okay, 338 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: what's my goal at for what's my goal this year? 339 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I said, it's to shoot a four year old buck? 340 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Right antler sized? Antler size does not matter to me. 341 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: I want to my goal. And like I told you earlier, 342 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: this year, my goals to shoot a four year old buck. 343 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: So I see a four year old buck on trail camera, 344 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: so it's like, why not go set up on on 345 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: this where this buck was seen. I hop in this 346 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: fence line, um, and I'm hunting a field edge, but 347 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: one on one side is a one side snag field. 348 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: The other side is kind of like this marshy area 349 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: and uh it's it's a gigantic staging area slash betting 350 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: area for a lot of deer. And when it's right 351 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: that marsh is on and cracking for the rut. And 352 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: so I set up. I sit there and I see 353 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: a couple of dos. You know, fast forward a couple 354 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: of hours, it's like four o'clock. I see a couple 355 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: of does work through. Um, they kind of do this 356 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: big loop around. It's almost like their scent check in 357 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: the marsh. To try to catch it and see if 358 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: there's anything in that field before they step out. Well, 359 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: a small buck stands up out of a bed. Yep. 360 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: I can I ask you a question? How did what 361 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: was your thought process in setting up where you did? 362 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: Did you set up there just like right over near 363 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: where the camera picked him up, or is this based 364 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: on where you saw him come out? Or how did 365 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: you choose where to sit specifically? Yep um okay, so, 366 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: and I should have said this earlier, but this buck 367 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: was working this Uh, we're working a scrape line basically, 368 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: and there's like five or six scrapes along this egg 369 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: field that's a picked corn field. And um, I don't 370 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: have permission to hunt the marsh, but I do have 371 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: permission to hunt the egg field of it, all right, 372 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: So there's like very very little, very little cheeries to 373 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: choose from. Yep. So I I just get up there, 374 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: I set the stand up, and I basically am setting 375 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: it up for an observation stand and hoping and with 376 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: with the ability to shoot two of these scrapes and 377 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: they're fresh scrapes right, um, probably were made when this 378 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: buck came through on Halloween night. It was there the 379 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: thirty one I hunted, uh, which would have been this 380 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: the first night I hunted there was November two. All right, 381 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: did the running, did the run and gun and uh 382 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: went in there and uh, I didn't see I saw 383 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: those does, right, saw this, uh this little dank buck 384 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: stand up and start chasing these doughs away. Well, this 385 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: something happened, and I think this buck that I ended 386 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: up shooting was also betting in that area, and he 387 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: was betting in this area specifically to catch does in 388 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: between their betting, using this marsh as a staging area, right, 389 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: and then he would send check them as they would 390 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: go to the egg field, and if they were hot, 391 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: then he would pursue. But it was still to the 392 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: point you know where it's uh, it's still that they're 393 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: not ready yet. So they're they're up on their feet, 394 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: but they're not breeding. That that quote unquote kind of 395 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: pre h reddit time. And uh, you know, I I 396 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: see and I see a big buck stand up kind 397 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: of that last light. I couldn't really tell what it, 398 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: what his antlers were, but I knew he was big, 399 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: and he started chasing these these doughs hard. I think 400 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: one was a year ling and one was a mature dough. Um, 401 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: and then that was it. That sun went down. They 402 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: chased him back into the timber and nothing happened. Well, 403 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: November three comes along and thunderstorms all day long. I 404 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: I'm second guessing myself. I'm like, man, I should I 405 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: even get into the timber. And I had the opportunity 406 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: to hunt until like eight or nine o'clock before the 407 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: rain started in. And I typically don't do this, but 408 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: to the north it was lightning a lot. So I 409 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: went into this giant ridge where stand where I could see, 410 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, I had the opportunity to see forever. Um. 411 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: I saw a couple of couple, good dear, but um, 412 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: they were so far away that I didn't you know, 413 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing to do. The front came in while I 414 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: was in the stand, and then it started to rain, 415 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: and uh, I get down, go home, and uh, I'm 416 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: sitting there all day and I do some work, uh, 417 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, write some articles, you know, do some social 418 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: media stuff, and thinking I'm gonna get reined out. And 419 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: it's funny because I'm sitting there on social you know, 420 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: doing my Instagram or Twitter or Facebook, and how it 421 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: looks like I'm gonna get reined out. Basically, guys are 422 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: calling me a pussy online. I'm pretty sure I left 423 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: a comment just said like I said boo or something 424 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: like that. So it's like, I'm getting called out here, 425 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't let you know, I can't 426 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: get called out. You can't let that happen. I can't. 427 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: I can't let that happen. So luckily I did, and 428 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: it was I didn't get set up until four o'clock. 429 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, I waited until the rain stopped. I left 430 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: the house at three. I got into the stand at 431 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: four fifteen is when I looked up and I was 432 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: set up because that stand was already there. So all 433 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: I did to climbing, climb up, strap in, and hang 434 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: my bow, and I end up seeing two doors work 435 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: their way in as I'm hooking up, but it's still 436 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: kind of missing, and they're looking up at me, but 437 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: they're not doing anything. They're not blowing, they're just kind 438 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: of looking up at me and they're not I think 439 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: they're just kind of disoriented because of all the strong 440 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: winds and rains that had just happened, and they didn't 441 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: really know what I was. And I was in my 442 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: camel up in a tree, you know, And unlike the 443 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: other property that I hunt, these deer can be kind 444 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: of dumb when they see people in the trees because 445 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: it's not a high pressure farm, so to speak, and 446 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: they end up kind of getting really really really kind 447 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: of spooked out and then not I guess, not really, 448 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: but they're getting kind of spooked out, so they're they're going, 449 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: they're bounding away and whatever. And so I'm texting my 450 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: buddy right here as it's drizzling, and he's like, I'm 451 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: in a I'm in a ground line right now, and 452 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: I am seeing a couple dear kind of spawn their 453 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: spawn with each other, kind of spar with each other. 454 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, you're you're probably hearing a kid cry 455 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: in the background, all right. The life of a podcaster 456 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: whose wife also does a daycare out of the house. 457 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: But but anyway, this um my buddies like, yeah, I'm 458 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of a lot of deer sparring. And 459 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: I text another buddies like, yeah, I just watched, you know, 460 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: to to dear kind of tickle each other's antlers. I'm like, 461 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna rattle blindly, right, this is gonna be a 462 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: blind rattle. This this this uh cold front just kind 463 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: of came through, and it wasn't really even a cold front. 464 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: It just rained right because the temperature stayed the same 465 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: before and after it happened. And I throw the antlers 466 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: together real hard for about two minutes, and I hang 467 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: them down. I sit down. About two minutes later, I 468 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: look over and this buck is standing at the end 469 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: of this finger in this marsh, and he's working his 470 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: way right towards me. And at that moment, at that moment, 471 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: first stop. First off, the first thing that went through 472 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: my head is you missed a buck earlier because you overreacted. 473 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: Get your ship together, right, grab the buyos. Identify the buck. Okay, 474 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: I see it was a see it's a ten pointer alright. 475 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Look at his body. Okay, that's a four year old. Okay, 476 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: that's the buck on the trail camera that you said 477 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: you were going to shoot buyos down. Grab the bow. 478 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this kid's going bananas room next. All right, 479 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you have an editing editing tool for 480 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: editing out crying babies. We don't have a crying baby 481 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: edit tool, but we have we have understanding listeners. So okay, 482 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: so this buck is is on a on a frozen 483 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: rope right right to me, like he's not trying to 484 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: walk around anything. He's he's walking back and I'm looking 485 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: at him, and then I still start to get excited 486 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: because he's bristled up, his ears are back, and he's 487 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: drooling like he's licking, licking his lips, not just coming 488 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: out of him, and he's he's just hunched over and 489 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: he's not a long bodied buck, but he looks like 490 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: a pit bull right. He's all shoulders, all neck um. 491 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: And it was one of these one of these deer 492 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: that just makes you look at him, go, he's mature, right, 493 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: He's a mature buck. And so he's getting ready to 494 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: at about twenty yards step out into this into this 495 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: one of the shooting lanes. And I didn't trim any 496 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: shooting lanes. It was just kind of a get up there, 497 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: see what happens. And I'm I'm getting ready to draw back, 498 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: but he does a hard right turn and he walks 499 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: the fence line of this marsh or he he kind 500 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: of steps over the fence first and then takes this 501 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: hard right turn and he's walking right to me. So 502 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: my twenty five yard shot now becomes he's head on 503 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: and there's like three trees in this fence row, So 504 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: I have no shot. The next time I have a shot, 505 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be five yards if not closer to me. 506 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: So he stops and he he stops first just a 507 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: second to the point or just long enough to where 508 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm going, Uh, oh boy, what did he catch my scent? 509 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: Because I had it. I had it angled to where 510 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: if he would have walked past that initial shooting lane, 511 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: he would have caught me. Right. So it was a 512 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: north northwest wind, and if I had a straight north wind, 513 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: it would have been blowing right down into the shooting lane. Now, 514 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: me and you talk a lot about about cutting the 515 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: wind right, So you have to you have to be 516 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: aggressive to the point where the shot has to come 517 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: right before you get busted. Right. And that's how I 518 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: that's how I set up this particular tree stand and 519 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: hunted this particular wind. And he's he's standing there and 520 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh boy, did he smell something? Did he 521 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: smell me? But he's just kind of observing his body. 522 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: His body didn't change like he was still in that 523 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: aggressive state. His ears came forward a little bit to 524 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: look around but he was still drooling and slobbering, and 525 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: he's still bristled up. Now you weren't drawn back yet, right, 526 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: not yet? What were you waiting for? What was your 527 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: He was behind behind something or he was the only 528 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: point At this point. He was about ten yards from me, 529 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: but the only spot I could see was his left 530 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: antler in his hind quarters. I had no vitals, and 531 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: he was still hard quartering towards me. Right. So he 532 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: he keeps walking all the way back to this uh, 533 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: all the way back to the um or like, past 534 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: these two trees, and I'm I'm excited right now. I'm 535 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: pumped because I'm reliving this this moment. Uh. He walks 536 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: out of this tree, he walks out, he goes he 537 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: after he walks by that tree, he walks into this 538 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: little green shrub. No shot. He steps out, and he's 539 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: five yards from my tree stand. So I'm shooting straight 540 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: down at him right, almost let the arrow go. I 541 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: didn't even try to stop him because he was walking 542 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: really slow, and I spined him and he dropped straight 543 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: down in his tracks. I freaked out for like one second, like, oh, 544 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: just shot a buck, And then then I saw him 545 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: flopping and then I turned back into finish him off mode, 546 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, grabbed another arrow, knocked it, launched it right 547 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: in his heart dead, and I sat down. I hung 548 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: first time, hold my bow up. I sat down. I'm like, 549 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: oh boy, oh boy, Like what do I do? Like, 550 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: because I haven't shot a buck since two thousand and twelve, 551 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it was, and like all this I kind 552 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: of had like flashbacks of all these mineral stations, all 553 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: these trail cameras, all these running gun sets, all of 554 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: all the years past, right, and it finally kind of 555 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: clicked for me. It's like, put up your trail cameras, 556 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: find where the action is, and go set up on 557 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: the action. It's like it's that simple, you know form 558 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: for me anyway, right, I don't know. And so I 559 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: pick up the phone. I called my wife, and my 560 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: wife is just you know, like she's just this year, 561 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: she was more. She was really supportive of me. Um, 562 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: and I had, you know, going into this this rut. 563 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: I had until November seventeenth until I had to go 564 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: back to work, so I was ready to grind it, 565 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: you know. And I killed two days into my rutcation. 566 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: So it's like I called my stepdad he helped me 567 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: drag it out and he was he it up dying 568 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: right there where I shot him, and I to the 569 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's just he's not a giant antler deer, 570 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: which I don't even care about. He is a mature deer. Uh. 571 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: I thought he was a four year old. But I 572 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: took him to the taxidermist, and his head is gigantic. Right, 573 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: he's got a the biggest neck of any deer I've 574 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: ever shot saw in the picture. I was like, man, 575 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: he's got a big old, big old neck on him right, 576 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: his body short. Uh, he's he's a brute. He's still 577 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: a heavy deer. He's well over to fifty. But I 578 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: take him to the taxidermist, and the taxidermists like, holy cow, 579 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: that's a big, big, big deer, like big body deer. 580 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: His head is huge. It's kind of funny. I don't 581 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: know if you've ever walked into a taxidermist and with 582 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: your you're so proud of your buck. You're walking in there, 583 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: you're walk in the door and everybody else is dropping 584 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: their deer off or he's got mouths there, and you're 585 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: just like, oh, you know, just kind of a oh, 586 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: there's a there's a booner, there's a booner, there's a booner. 587 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: You know. A guy walks in with like eighty class 588 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: non typical while I was there, and I'm just like, yeah, 589 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: this guy was mature, right, Like I don't know, I 590 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: just I thought that was funny. But in Iowa you've 591 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: got some serious competition to stack up against, right. But 592 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: the guy's looking at it and he goes, man, I 593 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: don't think a regular mount is gonna be good. Like 594 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: a regular amount we're gonna So he shows me. He 595 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: opens his catalog, right, and he's he's flipping through these 596 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: uh these forms that the hide goes over, right, and 597 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: he's like, I think we're gonna need one of these 598 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: these mounts. And it is amount specifically for Canadian deer, 599 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: who are like bigger net, bigger body an. So I'm 600 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: just like yes, like that that to me jacked me up. 601 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: And it was like, yeah, you may have big rack, 602 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: but my bucks a badassid right, So that is awesome. 603 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: And other than that, you know, it's just like get 604 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: the pictures done. You know, we had them processed, uh, 605 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: all the way processed, and you know, the end of 606 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: the next day and I got a really bad case 607 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: of poison ivy because of dragging him out of the 608 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: thick stuff. But it's all worth it, right, So what's 609 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: what is your base lesson learned from this whole thing? Oh? Man, 610 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: For me, it was I'm I'm starting to understand, especially 611 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: for for a family man, that there are times where 612 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: you want to hunt but you probably shouldn't. That's just 613 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 1: that's one thing. It's like, Okay, I went out this year, 614 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: and I love hunting and I love being outside, and 615 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: I've had some encounters, some good encounters in off what 616 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: we would consider off conditioned days. But you know, I 617 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: think I'm learning this year that you know, we talked 618 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: a lot about first time in best time in I 619 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: only sat that particular tree. That was the second time 620 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: I sat in that tree. And that was the first 621 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: time all year I sat in a tree stand more 622 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: than two times. Yeah, So I didn't ever double up 623 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: on tree stands or locations. I didn't ever, you know, 624 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: I was going where the sign was at. I was 625 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: being as mobile as possible. Um, I was doing what 626 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: I had taught conditioned myself to do throughout the years, 627 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: and that was you know, you have your trail cameras 628 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: tell the story where are the deer at Okay, if 629 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: there's nothing showing up, you gotta go somewhere else. On 630 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: these trail cameras, you know, if if there's you know, 631 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: bucks that are coming through in the middle of the night, 632 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: it pointless to hunt that area because there's no sign 633 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: of them coming in during shooting light anyway. So a 634 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: picture at midnight is like no picture at all when 635 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: you're trying to hunt him. I saw this picture of 636 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: this buck. It was at last light on Halloween, meaning 637 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna make himself visible in this marsh before then, 638 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: and that was my best intel. So I set up 639 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: in that area and lo and behold he he he 640 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: was there before you know, he was pulled away by 641 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: a hot dough and I had the opportunity to capitalize 642 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: because of the information my trail cameras told me. If 643 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: that makes sense, well that's awesome, man. So come together 644 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's not like there was even a plan. 645 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: It was. It was literally the starting point of what 646 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to do for the next you know, seventeen days, 647 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: for you know, fifteen sixteen days, I just started. I 648 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of luck in what happened to me 649 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: as well. I luckily ran into a place where a 650 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: buck walked in front of my truck camera I climbed 651 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: up in after a rainstorm, and that buck just so 652 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: happened to be betted in that marsh. But I think, 653 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: I think when you look at these types of situations 654 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: like this, there's always gonna be an element of luck. 655 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: But the luck wouldn't have been able to play its 656 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: part if you hadn't done a whole bunch of little 657 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: things that allowed that happen. So, for example, you hunted 658 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: on a day when it was rainy, and a lot 659 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: of people maybe wouldn't have gone on and hunt that day, 660 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: but you did, and you were there after the front 661 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: passed and that dealers on his feet. You you know, 662 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: you planned your wind right, and you made sure that 663 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: you weren't going to be blowing your wind into that 664 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: swamp and stuff. You know, some guys might have tromped 665 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: in there and didn't care about the wind and would 666 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: have blew them out before you even had a chance 667 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: to shoot him. Um, I bet you the true you picked, 668 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: there's probably some experience and some things you learned in 669 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: the past that helped you pick the right treatise in 670 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: that night. I bet all of your experience, the things 671 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: you've done doing so many running guns set ups. You know, 672 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: the day before when you set that stand up, you 673 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: probably did it really quietly and slowly enough that you 674 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: didn't spook that deer that maybe it was betted close by. 675 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: I bet there's so many little things like that. I 676 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: always try to look at my hunts, you know, when 677 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: I have like a close en counter that goes wrong 678 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: versus a close en counter where I actually steal the deal. 679 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: And when you start looking at all these tiny little things, 680 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: there's usually a bunch of these things that if I 681 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: hadn't done this one little thing, I never would They'll 682 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: kill that buck, you know. It's like that one limb. 683 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes you you don't trim the one tiny limb, 684 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: and that's why you couldn't kill him. And then sometimes 685 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: you do trim that one little limb, and then that's 686 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: where you got the shot. I think there's a lot 687 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: of things like that, probably, and I guess I didn't 688 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: really think about it, but and and I have a 689 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: problem with over analyzing things too much. This year, my 690 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: goal was to be more fluid in my approach And 691 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is, let the sign or 692 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: the information you have dictate where you're gonna hunt. Right. 693 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: Don't don't say, oh, man, but this area looks good 694 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: or this area looks better, or if I go one 695 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: tree over, maybe i'll maybe I'll do it, but it's 696 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more risky, or you know, it's like 697 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: it just for me, it just happened this year. I 698 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: didn't put a lot of thought into anything that I 699 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: was really doing. I knew I used the information that 700 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: I had from you know, seasons past, um and what 701 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: I've conditioned myself to do over my years as a 702 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: bow hunter. Um. You know, I'm not trying to make 703 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: myself sound like this God's gift of bow hunting. But 704 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: for me, it just it just it it happened, right, 705 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. It does. Sometimes it just that's 706 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: how it goes. Right. Sometimes you just have to be 707 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: out there and play as many of your cards right 708 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: as you can and then hope it works out. Yep, 709 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: that's a fact, man. So yeah, I'm I'm pumped. Uh, 710 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out I got a couple of 711 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: months to figure out where I'm going to hang him, 712 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: and uh, I just I'm just so blessed, you know. 713 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: And like I said to you, you know after when 714 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: I called you that night or that that next day, 715 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: I shot that buck and I almost had this feeling 716 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: of remorse, you know, I shot him. I love these 717 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: animals so much. You get a little bit of this remorse. 718 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: So you're like, oh, man, that sucks that I had 719 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: to take a life. But I'm a hunter. That's what 720 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: we do. He's gonna feed me, and I executed the 721 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: plan perfectly. That's why he's dead. Then the next thought 722 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: is like, man, my season for the most part is over. Well, 723 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you you about that. Yeah, because 724 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: in Iowa, you guys can get a second tag for 725 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: muzzleloader or shotgun right right, And yes, yes that's true. 726 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: But where I hunt, man, this isn't like a managed 727 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: farm where these you know what you see on TV, 728 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: these guys like, oh, late season success, Yeah, late season 729 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: success on a highly managed farm with forty acres of 730 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: standing corn. Nobody leaves forty acres of standing corn up 731 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: around here or around where my farm is. Yes, there 732 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: are times where maybe a cold front can move through, 733 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: and I'm talking in extreme cold front. We're we're talking 734 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: twenty five degrees below zero type of weather that gets 735 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: these feet on their on their daylight, you know, daylight moving. 736 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: It's just very, very hard to locate those deers. And 737 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna say it here, but you 738 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: know my situation, there's other people in the area who 739 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: who have tons of food plots, and so when winter 740 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: hits and after shotgun season comes through this these properties, 741 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: these deer leave my property and go to safe havens 742 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: on other farms where there is that forty acres of 743 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: standing food. What about the little property. Yeah, that's uh, 744 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: that's a good point. Um. I had some good, good 745 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: quote unquote luck there last year. As far as seeing dear, however, 746 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: they're all to the north and I just it's like 747 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: I would be shooting through two properties with my bow 748 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: two to to get a shot at him. It's just 749 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: it's very hard. They don't tend to use that pinch 750 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: point as much. They use the field edge on the 751 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: north side of the creek, and it's just it's it's 752 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: very difficult. And to be honest with you, that's you know, 753 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: that's time for me to be doing other things to 754 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: allow me to hunt the rut. You know, it's they 755 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: allow me to hunt, maybe go on that western trip, 756 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: and that you're telling me. No, I know what you're saying. 757 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: I'm giving up, Yeah, given up? No, No, how can you? 758 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: How can you not hunt from November two through the 759 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: January and it'll be a two and a half months 760 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: where people could be deer hunting and you're gonna be 761 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 1: able to sit in your house and not Felix scratching 762 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: your eyeballs out. No, I'm gonna hunt, don't get me wrong, 763 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: but I'm saying that it's very difficult and very hard 764 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: to do. I have three dough tags left that I'm 765 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: by playing to fill uh in the next couple of weeks. Actually, 766 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: so I'm still going to get out and enjoy some 767 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: of this you know, this rut. But I'm you know, 768 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm saving my vacation so i can go to some 769 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: trade shows. Uh, you know, I'm I'm only gonna I'm 770 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: going back to that weekend warrior type status. And it's 771 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: it's very hard late season when you know, if that 772 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: cold front doesn't land when you're in your cubicle or 773 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: when you're not in your cubicle, then you're kind of 774 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: you're kind of just you know, you gotta hit that 775 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: luck stage again. You know, I gotta that luck has 776 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: to that cold front has to come through on a 777 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: on a Saturday or Sunday, and if it doesn't, then 778 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: you're set sitting there hunting. UHT. Five degree December days 779 00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: and those aren't fun to hunt. But but I uh, 780 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: it's not that I'm not gonna be hunting. It's just 781 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: that it's just changes. You know, You've got two kids, 782 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: and you know I can't sit here and say I'm 783 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna hunt, because I will. It's just 784 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 1: that the opportunities as the season goes on become less 785 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: and less. Yeah, alright, Well, I just wanted to make 786 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: sure you weren't thrown on the towel completely. No, no, 787 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: because there's still an opportunity. I'm gonna be running a 788 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: lot of trail cameras on my buddies, and if a 789 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: big boy starts coming through, I'm gonna be on him right, 790 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: go get him, you man. I mean, I'll tell you 791 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: what's a good feeling when you're out there hunting and 792 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: you already have your pet, your tag field, and you've 793 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: got you know, none of that like monkey on your shoulder. 794 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: Type pressure. It's all bonus from here. So that'll be 795 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: a nice relaxing sit when you get back out there 796 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: next time. All right, mark uh speaking of monkeys on backs. Yeah, 797 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: speaking of monkeys on backs and trying to relax. Oh man, 798 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: you want to talk like you know how I was 799 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: saying the definition. I was prepared to grind it out 800 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: and I had success early. You actually are grinding it 801 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: out right now. Yeah, it's it's talked to us. Yeah, 802 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: grinding That is exactly what it is. And um, it 803 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: started a lot earlier this year than most years for me. 804 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: You know, usually my grind starts, you know, Halloween or 805 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: something like that. But you know, last time we actually 806 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: talked about my hunts that you know, I had that 807 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: encounter on the October where I got to folder on 808 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: holy Field, you know, and that whole thing kind of 809 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 1: set into motion my hunting marathon earlier than usual, because 810 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I started seeing holy Field daylight 811 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: all the time, and so I was like, well, I 812 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: saw him daylight last night, better hunt tomorrow. And I 813 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: saw him daylight that night, so I better hunt the 814 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: next day. So since October, I think I've only taken 815 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: two days off from hunting. Um, so I'm whooped, like, 816 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm tired. I'm I'm just leveling with you. I'm 817 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: just like, I'm exhausted right now. What is it, Tay's 818 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: November eight? Is that right? So since that time since 819 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: I've been after one deer and one deer only Mr Holyfield, 820 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: and he continues to evade me. So you know, we 821 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: talked about it. Came full draw on him, but it 822 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: was just too dark. The next day he came into 823 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: the field but got spooked by something on the road 824 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: ran back in the cover. Um. The next day hunted 825 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: a different spot. I didn't see him. I went back in, 826 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: I saw him again. Um. I took two days off 827 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: because of warm weather, was back in there and saw 828 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: him again. Um, all right, I got a question. Yeah, 829 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: I know you we've talked about this a little bit, 830 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: but tell us where he where this buck is living, 831 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: and and why maybe you're not able to get any 832 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: more cracks at him on on the property that you're 833 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: actually hunting. Yeah. Yeah, that's important for me to talk 834 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: about because I feel like everyone's like, how come you 835 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: don't just move and kill this buck every time you 836 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: see them? And then like gosh, I wish I could. 837 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: So here's a situation. Imagine like like a like a 838 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: checkerboard or board, and you break it up into four 839 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: four squares, all right, the four quadrants. Okay, So the 840 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: line that runs right down the middle, that is my 841 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: property line. I've got the two quadrants on the left side. 842 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: My neighbor has the two quadrants on the right side. 843 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: So in the bottom left quadrant is the only cover 844 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 1: I have on my side of the property in this area. 845 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: I've got that food plot I planted, and I've got 846 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: tall grass, and then a strip of timber behind me. 847 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: Now adjacent to that on the neighbors side of the 848 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: line to the right. So the right bottom right quadrant 849 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: is some cover like some timber. The upper right quadrants 850 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: that would be the northeast quadrant that is this stellar bedding, 851 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: really tall grass, the brushy bushes. Don't know what they're called, um, 852 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: but just like tremendous. And then the top left quadrant 853 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: is my property. But it's just a cut bean field. 854 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: It's a wide open bean field, and my property line 855 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: is on the edge of that bean field. I have 856 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 1: one tree on my side. Everything else is the neighbors. 857 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: So where I see him all the time is in 858 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: the upper right quadrant in that really great bedding, and 859 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: from my tree stand in the bottom left quadrant, I 860 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: can see in there really well. So on night number one, 861 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: I saw him in the right quadrant top right. He 862 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: came into the wide open bean field chase a dough. 863 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: I've snort wheels to him. He came down into the 864 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: bottom left where I'm at. But you know what happened there. 865 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: That's the only time he's come down to my quadrant 866 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: since that was October. All the other times I've seen 867 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: him back on the neighbors in that cover um, except 868 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 1: for one time November November three, he actually showed up 869 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: directly next to me in that bottom right quadrant in 870 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: the on the neighbors in the thick cover though at 871 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 1: sixty yards. That's the closest he's been to me recently. 872 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 1: And he was just staring into the food plot and 873 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: there was two little button bucks that had just come out, 874 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: and so I was like, first of my crap as 875 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: he did he bust me. He's staring at me, and 876 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: like for like several minutes, he was just frozen, and 877 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: I just barely inched my binoculars up and it looked 878 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: at him, and he was looking straight ahead. He wasn't 879 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: like looking up at me. He was just looking into 880 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: the food plots. I think he was looking at those 881 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: two deer. And he just sat there for a couple 882 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: minutes and then turned and walked away. Now, so why 883 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: I can't move is because I've got one tree in 884 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 1: my food plot in the bottom left quadrant, and there's 885 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: one tree in the top left quadrant, but it's just 886 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: on this wide up and bean field right. So my 887 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: thought process was, all right, I've got a great set 888 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: up here in this food plot. Does are still coming 889 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: out to feed? I just needed him to come out 890 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: and following these doughs when these times and I'm seeing 891 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: him chasing does back in the cover. He chased the 892 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: dough once out into the open bean field at one time. Um, 893 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: and issue here is I can only hunt here with 894 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: like north northwest winds something like that, because if I 895 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: have anything that blows from the east or south, it 896 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: blows up into all that cover. So long story short, 897 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm stuck with this spot and I see him all 898 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: the time, but he's on the neighbors back in this cover, 899 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: and I obviously can't hunt there. So long story short, 900 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, I saw him multiple times. I saw him 901 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 1: the morning of and then the third was the time 902 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: when he was at sixty yards. I watched him then 903 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: go back into the upper right quadrant, run around, chase 904 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: some dose in there. Then he actually though did pop 905 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,439 Speaker 1: out into the upper left quadron. He popped out into 906 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: my bean field at the very top northern border for 907 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: like ten yards and then walked into the north neighbor's property, 908 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: which was the cut cornfield. Um so that was the third. 909 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: My issue was, I was at this point, I was, Okay, 910 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: I want to sit up in that one tree up 911 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: in that ud because there are a bunch of does 912 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: that are coming out to feed in there. And he 913 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: has popped out there once right by that tree, and 914 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: then October he popped out and then worked south one time, 915 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: came in my food plot one time, spoot something. Okay, 916 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 1: these are my only options. I've hunted the food plot 917 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: stand so many times, like the exact opposite of what 918 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 1: you've done. You've hunted only you know, everything once or twice, 919 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: and that's what I want to do. But I've kept 920 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: hunting this stupid stand because it's the only place I 921 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: can see him like he's nowhere else on my farm. 922 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 1: I'm not getting trail camera pictures of him anywhere else. 923 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing him anywhere else. But every time I 924 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: go here, I'm seeing him. But you're seeing him on 925 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: the neighbor's farm, right, Yes, except for three times, three times, 926 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: three times he's come onto my farm, but just in 927 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 1: the edges of it. Um. I take that back. One 928 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: morning he was right in the middle of the field 929 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: running around. Um. And then earlier in October I had 930 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: seen him in front of my food plot. Um. But 931 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: most everything was on my neighbors. So my thought process 932 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: kept on me, Okay, this isn't a great situation. You've 933 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: hunted this stand so many darn times. You know, I'm 934 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: hunting a stupid field. It's not what I want to 935 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: be doing. But I don't have any better option on 936 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: this property, like I'm not. There's no other reason to 937 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: hunt anywhere or place else. If he's the only buck 938 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to kill, and if I don't think he's, 939 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: if he doesn't know him here yet, which I don't know, um, 940 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: maybe he'll follow a doe. So that was my thought process, 941 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: and that was kind of like kind of the news 942 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: I've hung myself on is that I've just stuck with 943 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: this one area because it's the only place I think 944 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: there's a small chance of him maybe making a stake 945 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: mistake and I could hunt it, and I knew he 946 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: wasn't winning me, and that the one thing that I 947 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: told you before is that I've convinced my wife to 948 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: come with the fore wheeler to this property and pick 949 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 1: me up every evening. Okay, so I'm not spooking these 950 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: deer as a person at all, And so I think 951 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: because of that, I'm still seeing a lot of activity 952 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: every single night. There's still deer feeding out in these fields. 953 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 1: If he's still very close to my property or popping 954 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: into my property for brief periods of time. I think 955 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: that if I had been walking out of this area 956 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: even once or twice, I don't think that would still 957 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: be happening. But I think with her driving in there 958 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 1: and spooking these deer off with the a TV, they're 959 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: just so much more forgiving of that. So then day 960 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: of the November four I finally had a wind that 961 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: I could go hunt that tree stand up in the 962 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: top left quadrant, because again, like I said, anything westerly 963 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: blows into the bedding, so I had to wait till 964 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: it's something that would either be straight south so I 965 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: go straight at the edge or something easterly. So I 966 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: finally got that the night of the fourth I snuck in. 967 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: I did a running gun set. It was an absolute disaster. 968 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: I got to my tree well, so first it was 969 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: like it was a quiet It wasn't windy. It was 970 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: super crunching the leaves. I'm like, okay, how do I 971 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: get to this tree which is right on the edge 972 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: of betting. I mean, the tree is right on the 973 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: edge of the stuff. So I'm like, how do I 974 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: get in here without spooking deer there? Bed in there? Well, 975 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: luckily the neighbor was combining his fields, so I'm like, okay, 976 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: I am going to wait and I'm gonna time my 977 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: walk into the stand with when the combines nearby so 978 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: that they can't hear me. So I walked to the 979 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: edge of the field and I see the combine has 980 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: stopped and he's waiting to dump off his little corn. 981 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna sit here and 982 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait. He'll be ready to go. Well half 983 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: hour passes and he still hasn't started going. So I'm like, well, 984 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: son of a gun, I need to get set up. 985 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: But luckily he gets going. So finally gets the combine going. 986 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: I've wasted half an hour, but okay, I'm gonna make 987 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: sure I get in here quiet. I don't have a 988 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: good set up. I'm not going to spook dear. So 989 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: as the combine is getting close, I scurry in there. 990 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: I get to the base of my tree. I'm like, okay, 991 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: nothing spooked. Nothing knew I was in here, at least 992 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,760 Speaker 1: not that I think of the winds, great combines going by. 993 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: Let me hang these sticks, yep. And I look at 994 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: my backpack and I realized I forgot to bring my 995 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: climbing sticks. Oh boy, oh boy. Mark. Yeah, so I 996 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: had like an aneurism, and I was at what in 997 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: the world, Like I am the biggest idiot in the world. 998 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: I got so mad at myself. I was, okay, I'm 999 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 1: not like, I'm not gonna go all the way back home. 1000 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: So then again, we have to give props to my 1001 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,800 Speaker 1: blessed angel of a wife. I called her and said, hey, honey, 1002 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: I know I don't deserve this, but can you do 1003 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: me a favor, and I had her drive my climbing 1004 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: sticks to the tree while the combine was nearby. Again, 1005 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: so again hoping that you know, this vehicle coming up 1006 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: to the edge of this field will be just like 1007 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: another piece of farm equipment. So she drops off my 1008 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 1: climbing sticks. I try to hang up in the tree. 1009 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: The first tree I tried to hung that I thought 1010 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna get hanged up in. I realized I 1011 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: can't because there's two big trees that are grown together. 1012 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: So I didn't realize this. I can't get straps around it. 1013 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,479 Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, son of a gun, so longs 1014 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: for short because this could go on and on. It 1015 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 1: was just a complete disaster. I tried to get up 1016 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: in like this tree, and then I realized was one 1017 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: other trick and maybe get into. So I tried to 1018 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,919 Speaker 1: get into that one. I couldn't get into that one 1019 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: because it's kind of just a little cluster of trees 1020 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: like right in this area. Um. And while I'm pulling 1021 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: the sticks down from one tree, I look over. Here's 1022 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: a big buck coming and it's Frasier three and a 1023 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: half year old. Um. He walks within ten yards of me. 1024 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: I filmed it on my phone and then he kind 1025 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 1: of realized something's wrong in boogers out of there, finally 1026 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: getting a tree, and well, just you know, it was 1027 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: a disaster. But I got in the tree for the 1028 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: last hour of daylight and I saw Holy Field come 1029 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: out of where I think he was betted. But he 1030 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: walked by like a hundred yards still in the neighbors, 1031 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: popped out around the other side of the field. The 1032 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: combine starts back up, spooks him, disappears, and well that's 1033 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: basically it. I went back again last night. I didn't 1034 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: see him. Um, And that's you know, that's that I've 1035 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: been hunting some different places in the mornings. This stand. 1036 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: This property just is not good for the rut unless 1037 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: they're hitting my food. So I've got I've got one 1038 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: chunk of timber that's like my sanctuary. So I just 1039 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: it's a it's kind of a swamp and I just 1040 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: never go in there. Um. Otherwise it's just field that's 1041 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of and um, you know, for whatever reason, they're 1042 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: not in my food plots as heavy as they usually 1043 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: are this time. I think it's because there's been no frost. 1044 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: We haven't got a frost yet. So they're not hitting 1045 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: my braskas because they usually don't hit those till it's 1046 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: cold and frosty. So you know, they've been hitting the 1047 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: neighboring corn field and my bean fields and UM, I 1048 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: don't know, it's been tough. I can't get in the 1049 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: cover he has been that. I've been hoping, you know, 1050 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: maybe he'll be cruising in the morning. Um, that hasn't happened. 1051 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: I've never seen them on the main body of my property, 1052 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: just up in that one little corner. Um. The one 1053 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: interesting thing that did happen to me is on our 1054 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: last podcast where we were talking about um our rut 1055 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: stands that we're looking forward to, there was one stand 1056 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: I told you about this in the back side of 1057 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: the swamp, on a little piece of of high ground 1058 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: that runs between CRP and the neighbors and my little 1059 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: swamp sanctuary. And I had set a stand on the 1060 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 1: back side of right in that piece of high ground 1061 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: that runs in the between, and I hunted that a 1062 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and that was an awesome morning 1063 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: and I actually saw two of the bucks that I 1064 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: was considering shooting this year. Um that we're what I 1065 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: believe to be three and a half year olds Frasier, 1066 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: and then another buck I'm calling Foreman, and Uh. I 1067 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: had both of them at ten yards, and I decided 1068 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: to pass on both of them, um, because it's just 1069 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: at this point, it's it's holy feeling. Nothing else is 1070 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: getting me excited, Like I just want to kill this one. 1071 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: Dear so had really cool counters with them though, and 1072 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: that was fun. And then I actually saw Foreman again 1073 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: last night and I passed on him at ten yards, 1074 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: and I saw him again this morning and I passed 1075 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: on him about twenty So you know, I've it's been 1076 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 1: great Michigan. Actually it's been really cool. Like I'm seeing 1077 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: these bucks and like a lot of these nights, I've 1078 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: seen holy Field, I've also seen Foreman. I've also seen Frasier. 1079 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: I've also seen this other buck I'm calling Mayweather. So 1080 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a bunch of NICs three and a half 1081 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: year old bucks, more than I've ever seen. So Like, 1082 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: even though I've hunted the same place over and over, 1083 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm seeing way more relatively mature deer and that's exciting 1084 00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: for the future for sure. Um, it's just been frustrating 1085 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: because my hands have been tied trying to get on 1086 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: this deer, and it's basically just been hoping to get 1087 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: lucky hunting these fields and just hoping that maybe tonight 1088 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: he makes a mistake and it hasn't happened. Okay, I 1089 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: have a couple of questions. Yeah, I rambled there. Sorry, No, 1090 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: you're fine. Question one, calling at him? Have you grunted? 1091 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Have you snort wheezed? Have you done anything to try 1092 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: to get him to come to you? Yes? Good question. Okay, 1093 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: So the very first time I saw him, I snort 1094 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 1: wheezed and he came into the food plot, but he 1095 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: was falling two doughs, so I don't know if he 1096 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: was falling if he came in because of the caller 1097 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 1: her cannon, because of the does So. Night number one, 1098 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: he responded to the call Night number two. I tried 1099 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: grunting and he the only thing about this. I grunted 1100 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: once or twice, and he looked with din Karen kept 1101 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: walking by. I tried snort reis again and he kind 1102 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: of just like turned and tried it away, So he 1103 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: wasn't feeling at all. So I'm okay, I'm like, okay, 1104 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: I kind of blew it um. The next time I 1105 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: tried calling to him was when he was at six, 1106 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 1: that sixty yard encounter when he was right next to me. Um, 1107 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: and okay, so I'd grunted at him and I snort 1108 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: reased at him and it kinda he didn't like it 1109 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,479 Speaker 1: so much. So I was like, okay, I'm not gonna 1110 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: try that. I'm gonna try doblate maybe. So I tried 1111 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: the can call. He didn't care for that. He turned 1112 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: and walked away. Another time I saw him pop out 1113 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: a little ways off the one other time when he 1114 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: popped out into my field north of me a couple 1115 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: hundred yards, I was like, okay, I've tried all these 1116 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: different things. He's not feeling it. But Dan Johnson told 1117 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: me I need to try rattling, and even though I 1118 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 1: don't like to rattle in Michigan, damn it, I just 1119 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: need to try something. So I was like, I'm gonna 1120 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: try a little light rattling maybe you know who knows. 1121 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: So I tried that. He looked and then turn and 1122 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: walked straight back into the woods. So no call has worked. Um. 1123 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: I considered trying a decoy, but I've watched him around 1124 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: other bucks and he's not like super aggressive with other bucks. 1125 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: And I don't have a good spot to hunt with 1126 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: the decoy, like the food plot stand. He wouldn't be 1127 01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: able to see it until he's in the food plot 1128 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: because I've got this tall food plut screen all around 1129 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 1: it so you can't see in or out of it. 1130 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: So I could hunt that bean field edge with it. 1131 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: But the issue of that is that he needs to 1132 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: come into the field to see it, And if that 1133 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 1: ever happened, it would be with a bunch of doughs 1134 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: out there and around here. I think if I put 1135 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: that decoy out, I'd get blown at by all those 1136 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,440 Speaker 1: doughs before he'd ever pop out. And any deer that 1137 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: came out would probably be surprised because they'd come right 1138 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: out where they come out that all of a sudden 1139 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: see this decoy ten yards away from him. So it's 1140 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: not like they show up on the other side of 1141 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: the field and you could see it. He could come 1142 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: my way. So so yeah, I mean, calling hasn't worked. 1143 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 1: The decoy just doesn't seem like the smart move. Um 1144 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: and here I am, yep. Well, it sounds to me 1145 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: like two things are going to happen. Well, first off, 1146 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: when is Michigan's gun season start Novema. So that's a 1147 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: week from today, and when people hear this, you will 1148 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: already be on the road or have already hunted in Ohio, 1149 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: right yea. I'm leaving for Ohio tonight after the hunter 1150 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: or after the podcast that we're recording right now. I 1151 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I was planning on hunting tonight because I 1152 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: thought I could hunt that corner stand one more time, 1153 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: the new one I hung, because it was going to 1154 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: be a west southwest wind, which would kind of cut 1155 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: the edge a little bit. I thought it might be 1156 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: able cut the corner, But now it shifted to a 1157 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: northwest or west northwest, which just blows out the entire 1158 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: bedding area, and some like I just can't, Like, there's 1159 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: just no way that will work. If it was southwest, 1160 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: there was a small chance I could work with anything northwest, 1161 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: just like there's I can't even get in there without 1162 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,479 Speaker 1: everything smelling me um. So I can hunt the food plot, fine, 1163 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: but that will be like the bajillion time of hunted there, 1164 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: and that seems like low odds now, And so I 1165 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: don't know. Part of me says I should hunt just 1166 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: because you never know. Part of me says that I 1167 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 1: should just get to Ohio and get a good night's 1168 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: sleep so I can try to turn the page and 1169 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: trying to make the best of this rut. Still, I 1170 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: think you should hunt tonight. I think you should hunt 1171 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Michigan and be as aggressive as you possibly can, knowing 1172 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: that there's there's a period of time between now and 1173 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 1: the time that the gun season starts. So I know, 1174 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: you remember how Jim Shocky talked about pressure on a 1175 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: deer like ripples on a pond. Eventually they go away 1176 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: and everything becomes normal again. I think that if you're 1177 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: aggressive tonight and you potentially spook him, you know, like 1178 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna spook him or you're gonna kill him type ods. Right, 1179 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: So let's say you spook him, by the time the 1180 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: gun season starts, he's going to be back to his 1181 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: normal routine, and there's that chance that he's still working 1182 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: his way on your property. So and by that time 1183 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: you're gone anyway, and then by the time you come back, 1184 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, the rut could be over. It could be 1185 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 1: that post rut where they're looking for that last dough, 1186 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: or you know, anything could happen between now and then. Yeah, 1187 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: So I'm my I don't know about you. But I'm 1188 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: that kind of person who's like, I'm gonna be knowing 1189 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: what I know and knowing that you're going to leave 1190 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: for Ohio in a in a day or two, be 1191 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: aggressive and if you fail, you tried. Yeah, you know. 1192 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that because I have been sitting 1193 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 1: here thinking about the same thing too, and like I 1194 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: don't want to sound like, um, well, let's just be 1195 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: a well, I don't want to sound like a winner, 1196 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: but I want to kill this buck to be selfish. 1197 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: I want to be the person to kill this buck, 1198 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: and I almost want to spook him because if he 1199 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: keeps acting like he's acting right now, as soon as 1200 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 1: my neighbor or one of these guys goes in there 1201 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: and gun season, he's dead. Like he's so killable, Like 1202 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: if I could hunt this stupid property, he would be 1203 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: so dead right now with a bow, I believe. So 1204 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: let alone when these guys start going on there with guns, 1205 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: so I almost, you know, maybe it's not a batty 1206 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: to hunt there tonight, knowing that probably chance I will 1207 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: blow out any deer in there and he will probably 1208 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 1: smell me. But maybe that's what they need to do 1209 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: to smarten this deer up a little bit, and then 1210 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 1: by the time I come back and try hunting him 1211 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: again later in November, he'll love you know. You know, 1212 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing I'm worried about, is he's gonna get killed. 1213 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: But if he doesn't get killed, maybe then I do 1214 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: feel good. If he survives gun season. I feel very 1215 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: good about my late season chances because I have by 1216 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: far the best late season food I've got two really good, 1217 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: great big Braska food plots that are lush and huge, 1218 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: and they haven't really been touched very much yet because 1219 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: of the fact we haven't got a frost, so I 1220 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,439 Speaker 1: gotta believe as soon as we get cold weather, they're 1221 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: just gonna hit them so hard. And last year I 1222 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: had him Montreal camera during daylight in December on my 1223 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: late season food plot ten times in daylight. So so 1224 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: if I can get this buck through gun season, I 1225 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: think he's very killable in the late season. So that's 1226 01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 1: my one silver lining. So maybe I should just be 1227 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: aggressive tonight, maybe just going there and it's it's it's 1228 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 1: a rattle for four straight out. Give him a fair 1229 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 1: warning before the Orange Pumpkin Brigade comes in. That's right, Yeah, 1230 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, maybe You're right. I know that if I 1231 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: was planning a hunting the night, but then just this afternoon, 1232 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: like when I was coming in to do this, I 1233 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 1: was like, man, tonight, the drive's gonna suck tonight, and 1234 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in it like midnight. I'm gonna four 1235 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 1: hours of sleep. But I know, I knew i'd feel 1236 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: bad about not trying. Still, does this make you feel better? Mark, 1237 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to work tomorrow, so how about you stop winding? Yeah, 1238 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 1: that's a good point. It's a very good I'll tell 1239 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: you what. I'll go to Ohio and you can sit 1240 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: in my cubicle. Okay, point well taken, Point well taken. 1241 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna go in there and set again, 1242 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to kill him, and if I did, 1243 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: like I might cry, I'm gonna be so happy. Call me, 1244 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 1: call me and I'll say, Okay, stop being a baby 1245 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: for a second and thank me, and just say thanks Dan, 1246 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: because you told me to rattle when I thought I 1247 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: should know for for four for an hour, just I mean, 1248 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: get get two decoys out there, have your wife dressed 1249 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 1: up as a deer. I have her bite that decoy, 1250 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:33,759 Speaker 1: and just rattle and rattling, rara, snort, we'se the entire time. 1251 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna come out purely just based on like insatiable curiosity, 1252 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 1: Like he just has to see what's going on over here. 1253 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 1: You know I've got enough to see it. You kill 1254 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: him right, doing something so stupid like I rattled and snort, 1255 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 1: reason and grunted and rattled some more, which nobody ever does. 1256 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 1: And he comes in that night and you kill him. 1257 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: And then I can see some article written by Mark 1258 01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Kenyon how I conquered the rut by actually give an 1259 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: advice to people. You know it was. It was nothing 1260 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: but my my genius strategy of very specific calling tactics. 1261 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, I don't know, man, I guess you know, 1262 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 1: we'll see who knows. You never know. Um, So that's 1263 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: my story. That's been my run. I'll tell you good luck, 1264 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. You know, I had one other thing 1265 01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: that's worth mentioning. On one of the hot days we had, 1266 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 1: like a seventy degree seventy degree day that I didn't 1267 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: want to hunt here, I went to one of those 1268 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 1: other farms of hunting, and I ended up having a 1269 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: really close call there too. Um. You probably saw on 1270 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 1: social media. Maybe we talked about on text. But at 1271 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 1: ten o'clock I spotted a shooter bock back in this 1272 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: big timber I was hunting, and I watched him for 1273 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: four hours, locked on a door. He betted at a hundred. 1274 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Then I watched him get up and stalk around, and 1275 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: then betted down again and stalked around. I tried calling 1276 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 1: to him a couple of times, and he wouldn't come 1277 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: my way. And then finally, like one thirty year, between 1278 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 1: one thirty and two, the dough got up and she 1279 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,559 Speaker 1: came my way. She passed a fifty through my shooting land. 1280 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I can do that. If he 1281 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: passes right through there, this is game over. But he 1282 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 1: hung back like twenty yards further back or thirty yards 1283 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 1: further back, and he passed the seventy seven yards um. 1284 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 1: And he was a four and a half year old 1285 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: buck for sure, like just a really solid, big, nice 1286 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 1: eight pointer. Ah. So that was a cool encounter for 1287 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 1: like a seventy of your day. I wasn't really expecting much, um, 1288 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: And that just goes to show you that you never 1289 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: know during the rut. So it's the rut. Yeah, you 1290 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,759 Speaker 1: gotta give it a shot, and they're gonna rut because 1291 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: anything can happen, right throw try throwing hill Mary's if 1292 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, like I'm telling people out there, no, hey, 1293 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: what about this. I only have one day left to 1294 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,600 Speaker 1: hunt or my vacation or I have you gotta do 1295 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 1: whatever you can. Tear your tree, stand down, go go 1296 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: dive into that bedding area down wind, and you know, 1297 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 1: if you see him and he's walking away from you, 1298 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 1: run at him. If he doesn't respond to a grunt, snort, 1299 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 1: weeez at him, if he doesn't snort, if he doesn't 1300 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: respond to that rattle at him. I mean, what do 1301 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: you have to lose? Yeah, if you're if you're down 1302 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 1: to the end of your trip, or if you don't 1303 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: get to hunt a bunch more or whatever, I mean, yeah, 1304 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go out swinging. Right So there, 1305 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,160 Speaker 1: get pays to be safe and conservative and smart, but 1306 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 1: only to a point, you know, like if your opportunities 1307 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be there anymore after this, then go 1308 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 1: for it. So so that's kind of where I'm at 1309 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 1: in Michigan for the time being. So I guess on swing, Hey, 1310 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 1: swing for it, all right? Well, any other final thoughts 1311 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: from you just you know, all the people who are 1312 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 1: out there grinding, man, good luck and you know, be 1313 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: safe and man, I don't know. I think I can 1314 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: speak for Mark when I say we we really hope 1315 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: as many of the listeners out there are as successful 1316 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,799 Speaker 1: as humanly possible. Unless you share the same de farmancy 1317 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 1: as Yes, I gotta tell you that it's been super cool, 1318 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: Like we've been getting a lot of tweets and Facebook 1319 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 1: messages and stuff with people thanking you and me um 1320 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: for the podcast, but because you know, help them in 1321 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 1: some way kill this book or the biggest book or 1322 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: or stuff like that. And that's that's really cool to see, 1323 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,679 Speaker 1: so very very exciting to see that kind of stuff. 1324 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 1: So I agree, good luck to everyone out there. And um, 1325 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: I guess as we do. I'm just gonna shut her down. 1326 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: We do need to thank our partners who help us 1327 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: keep this podcast going so big. Thank you too, Si Gear, Redneck, Blinds, 1328 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Hunter a Maps, Yetie Coolers, Ozonics, Carbon Express, maybe an optics, 1329 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: white Tail Institute of North America, and uh, I think 1330 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 1: that's every one. And I guess then finally, yes, thank 1331 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: you all Ford listening for tuning in for for kind 1332 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,640 Speaker 1: of joining us as we kind of share all of 1333 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: our ups and downs here during the rut. We'll have 1334 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 1: a new guest on here soon, so enough of me 1335 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 1: and Dan blabbing and until next time, good luck, luck, 1336 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:10,600 Speaker 1: and stay wired to hut m m mmmm