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Speaker 3: Oh, what is going on?

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Speaker 4: Welcome in here, Happy Saturday, Happy wild Card weekend?

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Speaker 3: Is it just me?

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Speaker 4: Have we have we regressed from Super wild Card weekend?

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Speaker 4: Is this just like run of the mill wild Card weekend?

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Speaker 3: Again? I took away the Super?

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Speaker 5: There's no Super?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 3: What that is? It's not so super?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand what happened because what put the Super

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Speaker 4: in it was the way it was structured. Two games

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Speaker 4: on Saturday, three on Sunday, one on Monday.

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Speaker 3: So we still have Is it not.

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Speaker 6: Super same thing that happened to the two minute warning.

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Speaker 6: I guess right, it's two minute time out now.

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Speaker 3: Change, that's right. Well, yeah, warning is far too aggressive,

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Speaker 3: you guys.

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Speaker 7: I guess that's I guess the NFL felt the same

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Speaker 7: way about Super I mean, people are just getting all

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Speaker 7: hot and bothered.

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Speaker 3: We're just gonna have to back off on the adject terms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like we're gonna regress from the dynamic kickoff to

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Speaker 4: it's just a freaking kickoff.

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Speaker 3: It's just a kick.

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Speaker 4: It's all excise, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 5: Good morning you guys, Good morning Rich, Good morning Jared.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, man, This Indiana runaway freight true,

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Speaker 4: my lord. They just obliterated Oregon last night, fifty six

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Speaker 4: to twenty two, and they have zero five star guys.

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Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: They're just mowing down the college football world with zero

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Speaker 4: five star guys. And if you want to do the

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Speaker 4: tail of the tape with four and five star guys, like,

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Speaker 4: Indiana is not even close to these other final four teams.

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Speaker 4: Indiana has eight four and five star guys, right, so

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Speaker 4: it means they have eight four star guys. They have

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Speaker 4: no five stars, but eight four and five stars Miami

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Speaker 4: has forty five, Oregon has fifty five, Alabama has fifty

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Speaker 4: seven four and five star guys, and here's Indiana with eight,

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Speaker 4: including no five stars. Just crushing it right now. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: And man, it's remarkable how how ahead of the field

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Speaker 4: they are right now. And last night was the latest installment.

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Speaker 4: You guys are just talking about the two minute timeout.

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Speaker 4: You know, Oregon.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what was wrong with Oregon last night.

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Speaker 4: It can be both. It can be Indiana that great

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Speaker 4: last night and also Oregon that bad. It can be both,

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Speaker 4: and you're not taking credit away from Indiana by saying that.

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Speaker 4: But after the two minute time out toward the end

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Speaker 4: of the game, they had to call time out. There's

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Speaker 4: a two minute timeout, and then Oregon went on the field.

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Speaker 4: They're like, wait a minute, we got to take a teo.

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Speaker 4: We're not ready yet.

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Speaker 5: It's like, how does that happen?

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Speaker 4: Like they had a delay a game before the punt

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Speaker 4: was blocked.

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Speaker 5: It was just a comedy of error.

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Speaker 4: Dante Boord drops back, He's like, oh my screen guy's open,

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Speaker 4: and he knocks the ball off his running back.

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Speaker 5: It was just a comedy of errors.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, give Indiana a lot of props.

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Speaker 4: They remind me, you know who. Indiana reminds me of

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Speaker 4: the way they play. They remind me of how the

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Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs used to play. Kansas City would never

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Speaker 4: make errors, they would never make critical errors, they would

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Speaker 4: never make unforced errors, and they would always capitalize on

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Speaker 4: your errors. That's exactly what IU does, and case this

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Speaker 4: last season got away from it. They're dropping balls at

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Speaker 4: critical times and stupid penalties left and right. But Indiana

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Speaker 4: plays the way the Chiefs used to, and that's a

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Speaker 4: credit to IU.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: They're hard to beat as it is, but they do

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Speaker 4: not assist you with beating them. They just don't do it.

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Speaker 7: It really is, it's accurate, and it is a good

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Speaker 7: portrayal of what Indiana is and could continue to be

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Speaker 7: in college football. But like every other team in college football,

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Speaker 7: they're going to have to reload after this season. Everybody

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Speaker 7: knows that quarterback being the most important position to make

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Speaker 7: sure you're looking after, and some of the most sought

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Speaker 7: after talent is being gobbled up as we speak. That's

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Speaker 7: part of the problem of playing deep into the season

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Speaker 7: with a weird overlay of the transfer portal is your

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Speaker 7: concentration is winning a national title, while anybody who's already

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Speaker 7: making sure that you've secured the future, but focusing on

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Speaker 7: that game much like you. I was astonished at two things. One,

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Speaker 7: how Indiana has become that that that that unmanned freight

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Speaker 7: train that is just steaming down the track and sort

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Speaker 7: of nameless, faceless fashion. I know they have the Heisman winner,

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Speaker 7: but Fernando Mendoza for being such a superstar in college football.

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Speaker 3: Because of the sound bites he get out of him.

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Speaker 7: He's so unassuming and he relents to take all the

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Speaker 7: credit he wants to give, you know, praise to his God.

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Speaker 3: He wants to give.

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Speaker 7: Praise to his coach, who wants to give praise to

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Speaker 7: his teammates. Like so his his goal every time he's

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Speaker 7: spoken to is to deflect any of the benefit of

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Speaker 7: the limelight. You know, he's not leaning into it like

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Speaker 7: you know. So you have that aspect. Then they have

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Speaker 7: Kurt Signetti, who's probably the biggest star on the team.

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Speaker 7: He's also a guy who's gives you some interesting soundbites,

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Speaker 7: but he's built a player first culture. He's trying to

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Speaker 7: put these guys in the most advantageous positions possible to

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Speaker 3: Oregon oregan man.

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Speaker 7: They played a sloppy football game, like sort of outside

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Speaker 7: mean it was really over before it started, you know.

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Speaker 7: Fernando Mendoza carved them up. Indiana's defense forced multiple turnovers,

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Speaker 7: they scored multiple times Defensively. It was just an absolute

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Speaker 7: bloodbath for Oregon. But that's what happens to good teams

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Speaker 7: when they face really really great teams, is they fold

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Speaker 7: under the pressure of that team they're facing, not making

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Speaker 7: even compete. It was an incredible whooping put down by Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. So the couple of stats that

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Speaker 6: First one, if you actually look at like some of

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Speaker 6: percent net success like, that's that's not a huge gap.

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Speaker 6: But then you look at available yards percentage and this

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Speaker 6: how many did you actually gain. That's where Indiana had

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Speaker 6: a massive edge sixty seven percent to Oregon's forty four percent.

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Speaker 6: And then obviously the turnover margin. I mean, you just

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Speaker 6: you can't win a college football game when you're a

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Speaker 6: minus four turnover margin.

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Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 6: To Rich's point that Indiana has actually been doing some

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Speaker 6: pretty good work in the in the portal, Josh Hoover

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Speaker 6: TCU quarterback is going to be their guy next year,

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Speaker 6: and he's a I mean we talked about him a

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Speaker 6: I mean, he can sling it. That's gonna be an

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Speaker 6: interesting marriage for coach Signetti next year. I don't know

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Speaker 6: who they're going to keep in the skill position group.

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Speaker 6: I assume a lot of those guys are gone. That's

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Speaker 6: like when you look at their roster, their roster actually

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Speaker 6: has a higher average age than the Packers. Like that,

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Speaker 6: that's like their starting lineup, Like they're older than the Packers.

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Speaker 6: The Packers are one of the youngest teams in the

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Speaker 6: sport in the NFL, and Indiana is the oldest. Like,

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Speaker 6: these are grown men on this team. They're all twenty three,

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Speaker 6: twenty four, twenty five years old. And I think you're

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Speaker 6: seeing that poise in these moments. They're very well coached,

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Speaker 6: they're coach very hard, they're they're the best team that

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Speaker 6: they are a juggernaut. And another thing too, how about

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Speaker 6: the crowd last night, Yeah, that was ninety ten Indiana,

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Speaker 6: And I think what we're seeing is NIL has really

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Speaker 6: transformed a lot of these programs where Indiana obviously was

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Speaker 6: never a football school, but they always We've had a

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Speaker 6: it really.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what your pedigree is anymore.

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Speaker 6: If you have money at any school, you are going

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Speaker 6: to compete and go look at the teams that have

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Speaker 6: been in the National Championship.

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Speaker 1: Over the last five years since NIL became a thing.

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Speaker 1: You canna find a lot of SEC schools.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot of teams that have big alumni basis,

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Speaker 6: big state schools, big conference schools that just figured out

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Speaker 6: a way to get the right coach and the right

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Speaker 1: And that's what you're seeing with Indiana.

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Speaker 6: So it ain't gonna take long, right, We've taken We've

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Speaker 6: waited for years for a non Michigan or Ohio State

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Speaker 6: hoping it was gonna be Penn State. They had a

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Speaker 6: Maybe it turned out to be Indiana.

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Speaker 1: How about that.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's funny too because you the IU fans

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Speaker 4: and how vocal they were yesterday. I mean they were

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Speaker 4: loving to win, obviously, but I love how ticked off

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Speaker 4: they were toward the end of the game. They're up

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Speaker 4: by four or five touchdowns and they want a pass

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Speaker 4: like Jim Rome has the clones, you know, like there

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Speaker 4: were signetti clones in the stands all all throughout. Those

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Speaker 4: Hoosier fans last day were like that was passer affairs.

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Speaker 4: They're bow the boo like it's good. Like they've punted

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Speaker 4: it already, like Oregon's got the ball. They're still bowing

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Speaker 4: the last couple of plays ago where they didn't get

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Speaker 4: the pass interference that was great.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: I love how greedy they were in good ways where uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, win in by five touchdowns that's not enough.

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Speaker 5: We should be winn by six or seven?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: That was pass interference? What's up that ref? They were

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Speaker 4: all ticked off about that. But you know, one of

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Speaker 4: my friends texted me last night and he was like,

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Speaker 4: is this gonna be like a copycat situation here?

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Speaker 3: Right? Like?

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Speaker 5: Are other programs.

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Speaker 4: Gonna try to to copy what IU has done here?

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Speaker 3: Well, the next one truly is the biggest one for IU.

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Speaker 6: And we haven't talked about Miami yet. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: And so we really didn't know how how Oregon was

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Speaker 6: like they shrunk. And there's two So there's two things

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Speaker 6: Second, how about the team that's played in the end

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Speaker 6: They were still on script because it was one play

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Speaker 6: I think and they will win with a cover.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, But I do.

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Speaker 6: Think Miami matches up a little bit better than Oregon

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Speaker 1: In the trenches.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, come on, come on.

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Speaker 6: We're the Heisman winner too, right. There were questions about that,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, yeah, absolutely, And he's just he reminds me

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Speaker 5: There's so much more than that.

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Speaker 4: And that's like, in addition to a Heisman winner, they

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Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. Man Like Signetti said, it would make a

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Speaker 4: in that win against Old Miss, and man, they chewed

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Speaker 5: Mutual combat? That was not mutual combat, man Like.

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Speaker 4: The combating was more severe on the Miami side. There

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Speaker 4: That's hardly deciding anything. So in college, when it's not

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Speaker 4: not what that play was. That's past interference. You have

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Speaker 4: The odds would have been in their favor even if that.

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Speaker 5: call like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

441
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Speaker 7: I'm so torn when it comes to stuff like this

442
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 7: because as a as a fan of sport, I oftentimes

443
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 7: find myself when I'm not pot committed to a game

444
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 7: like where I don't have a rooting interest. I just

445
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 7: want to see a great product, Like I want to

446
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 7: be really wowed by the results and not distracted by

447
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 7: the officiating or the refereeing or the umpiring. Right, I

448
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 7: want to have sport tell the story and not the

449
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 7: guys who are wearing the striped jerseys or the guys

450
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 7: in blue behind home plate in.

451
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 3: Baseball, so.

452
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 7: You know, almost to the letter of the law, I

453
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 7: want the game to be officiated. But there are moments

454
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 7: in games where I find myself even though I know

455
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 7: what I'm looking at. For example, subjectively is past interference

456
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 7: or really maybe objectively, like objectively you could say there

457
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 7: was too much contact between the defensive back and the receiver.

458
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 7: But then all of a sudden, my brain starts to

459
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 7: stop that part of the conversation and say, yeah, but

460
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 7: couldn't it have been OPI too, am I completely sold

461
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 7: that this was just a defensive pass interference called like

462
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 7: you know. And then I find myself torn between two

463
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 7: worlds where I know what I want to see is

464
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 7: the most exciting possible product, but at the same token,

465
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 7: you want a game to be officiated correctly because there's

466
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 7: nothing worse than watching a poorly officiated game. So I

467
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 7: get what you're saying, Brian, and I think I mostly

468
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 7: agree with it, but there is a part of my

469
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 7: gut that tells me, you know, there are moments during

470
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 7: the game where you do want certain leniences granted to

471
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 7: make sure that you are giving the best possible product.

472
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 7: And it's almost like your job as a player to understand, Hey,

473
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 7: when it's the final play of the game or the half,

474
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 7: there may be a little more lenience is given. And

475
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 7: so I don't know it. I'm I'm I think, I'm

476
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 7: I think I'm in between.

477
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Speaker 3: On this one.

478
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 7: I don't have a clear answer for you, because I

479
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 7: like letting it play.

480
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: In those situations. I really do.

481
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too, But that one, that one pushed the line,

482
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 6: that will pushed the line. Yeah, A lot of a

483
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 6: lot of people say it's a hell Mary.

484
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

485
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 6: It was not a hell mary at the thirty five

486
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 6: yard line. I don't think it was. He was throwing

487
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 6: it to the back corner of the end zone and

488
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 6: the receiver got his hand on the ball. He touched it,

489
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 6: So the uncatchable thing is not you know, part of

490
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 6: the equation either. So it wasn't an uncatchable ball. It

491
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 6: wasn't a hell Mary. And the d back was like me,

492
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 6: he was grabbing him. I mean, you know, I looked

493
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 6: at the bat. You look at the reverse angle of it.

494
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 6: I mean, he is really on him and like that

495
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 6: he and he not only restricts him running to the

496
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 6: back of the end zone, but then as he's trying

497
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 6: to jump, he restricts his his back arm so he

498
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 6: can only get one arm out and that's why he

499
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 6: kind of like hit it out of the end zone

500
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 6: instead of like actually trying to catch it. I think

501
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 6: at any other point in the game that's pass interference.

502
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 6: At any other first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, even

503
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 6: early fourth quarter, that is PI but we do have

504
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 6: this extra layer. It's like when you log into one

505
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 6: of your accounts you haven't logged in on in a while,

506
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 6: and you have to do like the extra added layer

507
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 6: of security, and you're all upset because like I got

508
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 6: to do the multifacture, you know, multi factor authentication. I

509
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 6: got to pull this phone out and get this pass

510
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 6: code in.

511
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: That's like the.

512
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 6: Fourth quarter end of game rules for PI. Like, there's

513
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 6: always an extra layer. It has to be blatant, it

514
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 6: has to be the guy gets mugged in the back

515
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 6: of the end zone and I I don't know if

516
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 6: that's the right approach or not. I think the fact

517
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 6: that we're having the debate about it, you know, shows

518
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 6: that it was pretty egregeous.

519
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right answer is.

520
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 6: I see the side of we want these the refs

521
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 6: to swallow the whistle in the big moments.

522
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: I understand that side, But man, where do you draw

523
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: the line?

524
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 6: Because I would have loved I think that game deserved

525
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 6: based on six lead changes, which I think was the

526
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 6: most ever in a college wall playoff game. That game

527
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 6: deserved one more shot, and I was thinking about it too.

528
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 6: Ole miss scored so fast to take the lead in

529
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 6: the final two minutes, like it was, what three passes

530
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 6: they were down the field in the end zone they had,

531
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 6: so they gave Miami so much time to go down

532
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 6: the field and score their game winning touchdown. I really

533
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 6: thought that game deserved over time. I really did. I

534
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 6: thought Miami was gonna drive down kick a field goal.

535
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 6: We were going to go to overtime at twenty seven all.

536
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 6: But that's not how it played out. You credit Carson

537
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 6: Beck for making the you know, the running play to

538
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 6: score that touchdown.

539
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 5: But really good game.

540
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 6: It's a shame that, you know, that's how it ended,

541
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 6: because I really wish we would have.

542
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: I think we deserved overtime in that one.

543
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: Man, it was a great game.

544
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is I guess that's the bigger

545
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 4: uh talking point is I never went officiating to become

546
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 4: like a main story of any game. But it's like,

547
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: we only think it's capable of being that if they

548
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: make all these calls, you know, they make so many calls,

549
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: and it's like, man, they became the story. It's like

550
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: if you just straight up swallow the whistles and you

551
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: just let almost anything go, you become too big of

552
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: a story of the game that way too right, And yep,

553
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: that's what I thought happened on the final play. We've

554
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: seen this at other stages in the playoff. Remember that

555
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 4: Miami Ohio State game. I mean there are many times

556
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: where they throw the ball deep down field and you

557
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 4: had Ohio State DB's just like clabboring Miami guys, and

558
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 4: the officials were like, I didn't see anything. It's like, guys, like,

559
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: I mean, selfishly, We'll go back to Notre Dame. And

560
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: this isn't retrying the whole season, but it's fourth and eleven.

561
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: They're hosting Texas A and m an offensive lineman just

562
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: tackles a Notre Dame d lineman and that was the

563
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: pass read completed for a touchdown.

564
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: They go on to win the game. Like, what are

565
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 5: we looking at here? If you don't make.

566
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: That call in the middle of the play clean as day,

567
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 4: you can't miss. If you don't make that call, you

568
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: are becoming too big of a part of the game.

569
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: And I think that can happen at times, and it

570
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: just bugs me. Man, if that's pass interference at any

571
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 4: other stage of the game, just like Jared said, it's

572
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: got to be pass interference on the last play of

573
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: the game as well, especially when it's not a spot foul.

574
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 4: You're not putting the ball at the one, And I

575
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: get it. If that's the last play, you're like, man,

576
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 4: it's pretty much got to be a salt and battery

577
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: for me to throw this flag.

578
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: I get it.

579
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: But you're not even spotting it at the one. It's

580
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 4: a fifteen yard penalty, so you're just giving them another

581
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 4: crack at it from twenty yards away. If you get

582
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 4: an honest question, if you gave Old Miss five plays

583
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: to score a touchdown on Miami from the twenty yard line,

584
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: how many times do you think they're scoring? Maybe once,

585
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: maybe one time? Like, that's not deciding the game. That's

586
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: calling a penalty. That was a penalty. What else are

587
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 4: you there? I get mad at punt returners who don't

588
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: like catch the ball, you know, and it bounces for

589
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: like twenty five yards of field position.

590
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, why are you back there?

591
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: Then?

592
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 5: Right?

593
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: And I feel that way with officials if you're one

594
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: of those officials in the end zone and the Miami guy,

595
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: like Jared said, it is restricting the receiver's path, tugging

596
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: on his you know, his Jersey, Like, what are the

597
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: officials doing there? Then you just had a good seat

598
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: for the game. That's you're there to officiate the game,

599
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: so do it.

600
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And I think I'm okay. So circling back

601
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 7: to the actual game we're talking about, I think I

602
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 7: do agree with you more in that one spot, like

603
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 7: like if we're gonna look at this locally, like, okay,

604
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 7: in this one situation, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I

605
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 7: think I think a call was missed, you know, and

606
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 7: I really do, I by the letter of the law,

607
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 7: and also considering how punitive that penalty can be in

608
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 7: the NFL, and honestly, how kind of normal it is

609
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 7: in college football, Like that's kind of like, yeah, I mean,

610
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 7: is it one of the more stringent penalties, certainly, But

611
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 7: like I mean, look, it's fifteen yards. You know, if

612
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 7: you're if you're good enough roster, good enough team should

613
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 7: be able to overcome that at some point in the game,

614
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 7: maybe one of the.

615
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: Most important parts of the game too.

616
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 7: Like, but but reality is, I look at football through

617
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 7: the lens of you know, it's a it's a really

618
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 7: hard fought game, and globally, when I think about PI,

619
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 7: I wanted to I wanted to look, feel, smell, act

620
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 7: like PI if you're gonna throw the flag in that

621
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 7: very precarious situation, because everybody knows that feeling when you

622
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 7: are watching a football game, and subjectively, you could call

623
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 7: a penalty on every play, right, there's always gonna be

624
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 7: a hold on every single play. Offensive lineman they hold

625
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 7: on every play, and so by the letter of the law,

626
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 7: you could throw a flag on every play. There's always

627
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 7: gonna be a little defensive holding. There's always going to

628
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 7: be a little pass interference, Like if you look closely enough,

629
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 7: you'll find a penalty on every play.

630
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: And so I guess that's really where my brain went.

631
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: Is I hate it.

632
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 7: When officials take it upon themselves to legislate.

633
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: Football out of football.

634
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 7: Now, not every situation is the same, and obviously this

635
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 7: one is vastly different, different than some of the ones

636
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 7: that I may be mentally rewinding my life to, like

637
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 7: moments where I'm like, oh my god, how could you call.

638
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: That on us in this moment?

639
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 7: But like, but in this situation, I see argument, I

640
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 7: see the point, and and more more than not, I

641
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 7: think I would agree with you. But globally, I have

642
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 7: I have such a problem with how officials act these

643
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 7: days because not only not only oftentimes are officials making

644
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 7: themselves a story, but they're turning on their microphone at

645
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 7: every moment they can, and they're making sure they're real

646
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 7: vocal because they're looking to parlay their officiating career into

647
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 7: a media career post career.

648
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: Like it's getting a little there's there's there's starting.

649
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 7: To be a line that you're seeing a lot of

650
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 7: these officials dance on where it's going from hey, informative

651
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 7: where you need to tell us about the foul, to

652
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 7: gratuitous with the microphone. And that's that's where I kind

653
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 7: of say, hey, pause, you're you're not the game. Nobody

654
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 7: showed up because you know whatever, Gary is the lead ref.

655
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: You know, we we the white hat can chill. We're

656
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: here for football.

657
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I've reached that point, and I've reached it

658
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 6: with the NFL already where I would be totally fine

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Speaker 6: if they replayed every single call with the replay assist,

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Speaker 6: like not actually stop the game and go look in

661
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 6: the little you know tent and you know, go look

662
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 6: at the actual play, but every single call, like not

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Speaker 6: the obvious ones like false starts and off sides and

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Speaker 6: stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Although I've seen them offsidees miss before.

666
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 6: But we should be we should be assisting these these

667
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 6: officials now the game has gotten too fast. I mean

668
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 6: I saw one ref who retired I think in week eighteen.

669
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: He's like seventy years old. Like, we need to give

670
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 6: these guys some help. The game moves really fast and

671
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 6: they miss a ton. I think it's the most talked

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00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 6: about thing every single game.

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Speaker 1: Every game, there's always.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm sometimes probably too online during these games, right,

675
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 6: we're looking at what other people are saying.

676
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: The peanut gallery.

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00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 6: There's always a referee gripe every single game, and most

678
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 6: of the time it's warranted. Now, the part that I

679
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 6: get take take offense to is when people go, oh,

680
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 6: it's rigged because of that, Like, no, these guys just

681
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 6: miss calls because it's really hard to be accurate, and

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Speaker 6: I think we need to give them help.

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Speaker 1: I think in.

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Speaker 6: Certain occasions, especially get the calls like let's say fourth quarter,

685
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 6: you know, like replay all go, everything goes upstairs to

686
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 6: replay with you know, overtime rules, stuff like that. We

687
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 6: should do the same with penalties, and I know it

688
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 6: might take a little bit longer. You might add thirty

689
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Speaker 6: seconds to a minute to certain place, but we got

690
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Speaker 6: to get this stuff right. And I think we've reached

691
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Speaker 6: and gone past the point of the game is moving

692
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Speaker 6: too quickly for these officials because I just watched while

693
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Speaker 6: you guys were chatting. I just went went back and

694
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 6: go watch that play. The field judge is staring right

695
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 6: at it, right at it, yeah, and he just doesn't

696
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Speaker 6: make the call.

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Speaker 1: And I thought there was a call to be made.

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Speaker 6: There, But then the swallow your whistle effect comes in,

699
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Speaker 6: Like I think these guys think a little bit too

700
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 6: much and don't react as much.

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Speaker 1: Like we say this all the time in football, like if.

702
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 6: You're thinking too much, you're gonna you're gonna make the mistake.

703
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 6: If you're trying not to lose, right, if you're playing

704
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: not to lose instead of playing to win, you're gonna

705
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 6: make the mistake. I think officiating does that sometimes too,

706
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 6: where they're just trying not to be the story, but

707
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 6: in doing that, they become the story. And sometimes that's

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00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 6: where we get into the issue. So I'd be in

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Speaker 6: favor of that. I know people would be go crazy

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Speaker 6: if all of a sudden we were you know replay

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Speaker 6: assisting every penalty that was called. But I do think

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Speaker 6: we are starting to reach that point where the officiating

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Speaker 6: has gotten so.

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Speaker 1: Bad that we need some kind of change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, We've got rich Oronberger, Penn State All American,

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Speaker 4: Jared Smith, FSR, betting analyst.

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Speaker 5: I'm Brian No coming up next. The parlay platter.

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Speaker 2: This check this out our late latter Ah.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the platter, which have one selection for you, we

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Speaker 4: pool it together for a greater payout.

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Speaker 5: Shared. We start with you, what do you like?

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Speaker 1: Well, let's try a little something different today.

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Speaker 6: I've proposed this with the group and I feel like

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Speaker 6: we have a little Well, let's have a little fun

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Speaker 6: with this sentiment. I'm gonna give you guys three touchdown

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Speaker 6: scores for today.

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Speaker 3: I cooked this up last night. I'll present it to

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Speaker 3: the group.

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Speaker 1: You can tell me if you like it, if you

741
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: hate it, and if you hate it, who are.

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Speaker 6: You replacing and who are you going to replace them with?

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Speaker 6: So the three guys that I like today, they're all

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00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: running back. Actually one of them is tomorrow, the other

745
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 6: two are today. They're all running backs. They're all relatively,

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Speaker 6: you know, heavily priced. These are guys that I think

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Speaker 6: will find the end zone and I like the matchups

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Speaker 6: at all.

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Speaker 1: Three.

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Speaker 6: Kyen Williams has been fantastic for the Rams. I think la'

751
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 6: is gonna be in a positive game script today. He

752
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: had seventy plus yards in the first matchup.

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Speaker 1: We'll get this rushing yard crop in the next hour.

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Speaker 1: But he's minus uh.

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Speaker 6: One forty five to score today. Josh Jacobs minus won

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00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: thirty five to score tonight. This Bears defense hasn't been

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00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 6: great this year, and I think Green Bay, especially with

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00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 6: Love coming back from the injury, is gonna be a

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 6: little bit more run happy. And they've been a negative team.

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00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 6: Pass right over expected this year and tomorrow Travis Etn

761
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 6: has been the guy for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Don't love

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Speaker 6: this Bills defense. They've been up and down this year.

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Speaker 6: So Williams Jacobs ETN.

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Speaker 1: All to score a touchdown. I cook this up over

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Speaker 1: at ft MGM. The odds are plus three to ninety

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00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: on this parlay? Do we love it?

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00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: Do we hate it?

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Speaker 1: Which guy do we not like? What's the vites here?

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Speaker 3: Guys? Okay, Williams etn and what was the.

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Speaker 6: Third Jacobs Williams oh ETN and Josh Jacobs Okay.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why this name popped into.

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Speaker 7: My head because this has not been as big of

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00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 7: a storyline this year as it's been in years past.

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Speaker 3: But how do you.

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00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 7: Feel how do you feel about Jalen Hurts quiggling him in?

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00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean because the two sush yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean and and then and then my question is

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Speaker 7: who do you replace if we sneak in Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 7: I mean the the sub about at ten. He's been

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 7: so good in the red zone for Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Oh, man, I like.

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00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: Jacobs is banged up.

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00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's banged up, like he's not completely healthy.

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Speaker 5: But I hear you.

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Speaker 4: I I like what you've done here with cooking up

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00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: this three leg parlay. Yeah, all three are clearly capable

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00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: of scoring. But if I had to quote one off

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00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: the island, it would be Jacob's just uly because the

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00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 4: injury concerns, you know, like, I just don't know how.

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Speaker 5: Healthy he is.

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00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: Last time we saw these two teams in Chicago was

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00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Wilson had a huge game and Treush Jacobs barely played.

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00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: So I don't know, man, I just don't know how

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00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: healthy he is.

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Speaker 5: So that'd be the lake i'd look to to change

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Speaker 5: if I'm changing anything.

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Speaker 6: So something that I like to lean on in the

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Speaker 6: NFL playoffs, and Rich, I'm sure you could back me

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Speaker 6: up on this guy.

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00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: You lean on your stars more.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, like I think, and the same thing today

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Speaker 6: with Karen Williams and Blake Korum, Like Karen Williams should

804
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 6: be getting the line chair of the carriers today because

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00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 6: he's the guy. And it's not to say that Korum

806
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: hasn't had a great year, but in the playoffs, Rich

807
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 6: like you go down with your stars.

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Speaker 3: It's true.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Karen Williams, I would say Jacobs of the three

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00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 7: is the one that I'm having a hard time riding

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Speaker 7: with the least.

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, I would.

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Speaker 7: You know, actually factoring the point you just made like

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Speaker 7: a Christian McCaffrey, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean, thinking about he is banged up. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: God, so so if if we went with Jalen Hurts,

817
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 6: e Tn and Williams, we just took out Cups, it'd

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00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 6: be five to one, which actually not honestly, that's a

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00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 6: that's a that's a pretty good that's a pretty.

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Speaker 3: Juicy legger right there.

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Speaker 7: One like it because the Niners defense is so banged

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Speaker 7: up too, Yes, Trump, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Is that in the final consensus from the group here,

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Speaker 6: Karen Williams. Right, we'll get one today and then we'll

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Speaker 6: have two for tomorrow. So we just need to get

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Speaker 6: one across today. By the way, I think we you know,

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Speaker 6: I I had Indiana in Miami. Right, we'll be doing

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Speaker 6: our parlay platter last week, right, we're giving you the

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Speaker 6: two semi final winners.

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Speaker 1: I think I had Indiana Miami. So we're on a

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Speaker 1: nice little.

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Speaker 6: Streak with these, with these platters. We had a couple

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00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 6: of weeks ago, gave Indiana Miami.

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Speaker 3: Last week.

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Speaker 1: I think someone else had Indiana Miami two of the group, but.

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Speaker 3: This one feels kind of juicy. Five to one.

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Speaker 1: Karen Williams Traves e tm Jalen.

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Speaker 4: Hurts about how about oh yet we got third option

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Speaker 4: number three? You know, wow with the sucky Niners defense

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Speaker 4: and no pass rush whatsoever. I should say, banged dumb

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Speaker 4: and ye yucky, right like that, right, banged up dust sucky,

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Speaker 4: right like? How about the slim reaper over here, Davonte Smith,

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Speaker 4: he's at plus one sixty five. We have no pass rudge.

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Speaker 4: They have the least sacks in the entire NFL. Maybe

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Speaker 4: maybe Slim gets loose for one right here. If you

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Speaker 4: get plus one sixty five in the mix, we're bordering, yeah,

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Speaker 4: six to one inch.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's six and a half plus six forty six.

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Speaker 6: I love the you know, alignment with the numbers there.

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Speaker 6: I'm a big numerology guy. Yeah, so Kyn Williams Travis ETN.

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Speaker 6: Davonte Smith. That gets us the plus six forty six.

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00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 6: I think that's the final answer. Okay, that's the final answer.

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Speaker 1: I like you get a receiver in there, little explosiveness.

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00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I like Brian's final answer.

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00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: There you go.

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00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 5: Watch Josh Jacobs will be the first touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: You gotta bet Josh Jacobs individual touchdown now.

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Speaker 3: You have to.

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Speaker 5: That's the way it'll go, you do, all right?

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Speaker 4: Cut it up next, it's historical ground. We are breaking

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Speaker 4: to begin the NFL playoffs. We will tell you about that.

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Speaker 4: Right around the corner, you're listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 5: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 4: Welcome in here, Happy Saturday, Happy wild Card weekend, the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the NFL playoffs. We've got a double header today.

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Speaker 4: how about this historical They are the biggest playoff road

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Speaker 4: favorite in the Super Bowl era. How about that minus

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Speaker 4: five hundred Carolina Panthers. Huh so Rams minus ten and

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877
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: Super Bowl era.

878
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: We're going into Super Bowl sixty here.

879
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: We've got fifty nine years of this stuff, right, Like

880
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 4: the playoff format has changed, the number of teams have changed,

881
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: but a lot of years. And this is the biggest

882
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: road playoff favorite. That is your Los Angeles Rams.

883
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 5: And man, this is a tricky game.

884
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what you start looking because my first

885
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: reaction is ten and a half points, Like I'm conditioned

886
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 4: in the NFL and especially the NFL playoffsink.

887
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 5: You given me ten and a half points.

888
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: Okay, but man, this matchup in particular, the Rams should

889
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: be able to name their score Offensively, I just don't

890
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 4: see much resistance from Carolina's defense, and I just don't

891
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: know how much they're gonna be able to score themselves. Now,

892
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 4: the flip side of that is, we saw both these

893
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: teams play each other in the same stadium earlier this season,

894
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 4: and somehow the Panthers won, so they hung tough. Then

895
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 4: the Rams don't have a great secondary. Maybe the back

896
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: door cover is available if that's the situation in the

897
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, So kind of a trick.

898
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 5: But I know this.

899
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: The Rams are head and shoulders better than the Carolina

900
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: Panthers are. You start breaking down like this unit versus

901
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: that unit, this offense versus that defense, Like, oh my gosh,

902
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: like this is this is Rams all day.

903
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: It's just a matter of how many points? Is it

904
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 5: the Rams?

905
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: By? Yeah?

906
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 7: I do agree with that. I think it's the Rams,

907
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 7: But by what margin? All right, let's talk about the

908
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 7: Rams for a second. Obviously they have a full complement

909
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 7: of their skilled position players back, with DeVante Adams coming

910
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 7: back from his hamstring injury to play in this one.

911
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: Will he be as effective? I don't know?

912
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 7: But is it always good to have another threatening option

913
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 7: on the field to make more room for some of

914
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 7: the players on the football field who have been absolute

915
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 7: stars for you, like, for example, you know.

916
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: Your stud Puka Nakua.

917
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it never hurts to have Batman and

918
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 7: Robin on the field together. At the same time, they

919
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 7: do have an injury up front on their offensive line

920
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 7: at the guard position, so a little bit of a

921
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 7: question mark there. Stafford obviously a better quarterback when he's

922
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 7: being protected well, So that's a storyline to keep keep

923
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 7: in front of you. Then you look at the Carolina Panthers. Okay,

924
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 7: so Carolina has had success. However, they quote unquote earned

925
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 7: their playoff position by losing Week eighteen to the Bucks

926
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 7: and then getting bailed out by the Falcons, So they

927
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 7: kind of limped into the postseason. Here and Bryce Young,

928
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 7: albeit a career year, his best year as a quarterback

929
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 7: in the NFL, he's still one of the lowest ranking

930
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 7: quarterbacks in the NFL. Like he's he's still metrically not

931
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 7: even close to where Stafford's at or any of the

932
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 7: remaining quarterbacks in the postseason, and.

933
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 3: Frankly, when you compare him to across the.

934
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 7: League, he's still woefully behind the majority of the NFL.

935
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 7: I think there is a significant luck factor for the

936
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers, and it's twofold one. If you look at

937
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 7: the game against the Rams, they should have lost that game.

938
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 7: If you go back and you watch that game against Rams,

939
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 7: the Carolina Panthers lost that game.

940
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: They got very lucky.

941
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 7: And secondarily they're kind of lucky in general. They play

942
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 7: in the worst you know, no question, the worst division

943
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 7: in football, and not only that, the worst division in

944
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 7: football had kind of a bad year, so you look

945
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 7: at where Luck has kind of saved the day for

946
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 7: them a couple times over this season, and you look

947
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 7: at the fact that the Carolina Panthers don't have a

948
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 7: very good quarterback, and we're talking about a career year

949
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 7: for Stafford and the Rams and this offense and the

950
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 7: defense has played lights out in certain games against better competition.

951
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 7: I just don't see for Carolina, and I don't see

952
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 7: it at all. The Rams could could potentially cover this number.

953
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 7: I wouldn't you know what, I would be willing to

954
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 7: say that this game could be a slow start, Like

955
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 7: I could see Carolina put up a fight for the

956
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 7: first half. So if we want to put this into

957
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 7: betting parlance, like maybe a first half under is something

958
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 7: I'd take a look at on this game, because I

959
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 7: could see this being you know, you're on the road.

960
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 7: The Carolina Panthers can be you know, they're gonna throw

961
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 7: some tricks and gadgets at you. You know, so it

962
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 7: could it could be one of those games where Carolina

963
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 7: tries to slow the ball down a little bit and

964
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 7: play keep way in the first half when they have

965
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 7: the football. The Rams could come out to a slow

966
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 7: start on the road in the postseason, so I could

967
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 7: see that being a little bit of a storyline here.

968
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean, the Carolina Panthers have no business

969
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 7: facing the Rams and they're gonna get outclassed.

970
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit would drop off with the Rams

971
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 6: defense over the last few weeks, but they've been a.

972
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: Very good unit this year.

973
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 6: I know Stafford gets all the gets all the attention.

974
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 6: By the way, the AP All Pro Team just came

975
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 6: out and Stafford was on the first team, Drake May

976
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 6: on the second team. If that's any MVP indicator.

977
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: That kind of threw us off last year though, right

978
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: was it with josh Hjalen and Lamar?

979
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 6: So it did, But I don't know if I mean,

980
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 6: I feel like if that happens two years in a row,

981
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 6: then we got.

982
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: So we need to recount with the votes. The first

983
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: game between these teams was bizarre.

984
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 6: So the Rams were a plus twenty two percent net

985
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 6: success They had a sixty one percent success rate on

986
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 6: their offensive plays to Carolina's thirty nine percent. They were

987
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 6: a plus one point six net yards per play. They

988
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 6: had seven and a half yards per play to just

989
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 6: five point nine for Carolina. Yet the Panthers still won

990
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 6: the game. The twenty two percent net success rate difference

991
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 6: was the thirteenth largest in any NFL game this year,

992
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 6: and the Rams loss was only second.

993
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: Right, there was only.

994
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 6: Two other teams in that group of thirteen that lost

995
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 6: the game.

996
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Again, I know, I'm throwing a lot of numbers at you.

997
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 6: Fluky, fluky for gayzy win for Carolina over the Rams

998
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 6: in that first matchup. That and when you then play

999
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 6: those two teams again and you throw a double digit

1000
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 6: road favorite line out there, the market is screaming at

1001
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 6: you be very careful with Carolina here. That's not to

1002
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 6: say they can't cover slip through the back door. These

1003
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: types of things happen all the time, but the market

1004
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 6: is painting a very clear picture here. Not only is

1005
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 6: Carolina significantly worse in terms of ratings, but the first

1006
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 6: game was so fluky that if you draw any conclusion

1007
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 6: from it, you might be in trouble. Then you look

1008
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 6: at some of the trends for the bigger picture, and

1009
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 6: I know, and I agree with Brian, like you give

1010
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 6: me a double digit number on the road in the NFL,

1011
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 6: and I'm sure crackle echo this, like I'm not really

1012
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 6: running to lay the points, but double digit favorites are

1013
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 6: actually eight and two in the wildcar round against the spread,

1014
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 6: So the team that's suppose to win in this round

1015
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 6: typically wins and typically covers. Now, Carolina has been good

1016
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 6: aful loss. They're a scrappy unit, but make no mistake,

1017
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 6: they are the worst rated team in the playoffs by

1018
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 6: a wide margin, and it is going to take a

1019
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 6: herculean effort for them to even come close to winning

1020
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 6: this game.

1021
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: Based off of.

1022
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 6: What we saw in the first matchup and just based

1023
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 6: off of how I see these teams stacking up.

1024
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 4: I'm really curious how well Carolina can run the ball

1025
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: because you go back to that regular season matchup between

1026
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: the Panthers and Rams.

1027
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 5: Carolina ran it well.

1028
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 4: They ran it forty times for one hundred and sixty

1029
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: four yards. Like if they could duplicate that today, if

1030
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: you're like, hey, Carolina, would you take that again, they'd

1031
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: be like, yes, we will. We'll absolutely sign up for

1032
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: that right now, immediately. But last week Carolina against Tampa,

1033
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: they rushed for nineteen yards. Nineteen yards rushing. Last week

1034
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: they couldn't run it. So can they run it on

1035
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: the Rams That's a huge question today. And then man,

1036
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: you just dive into the numbers, and it's like, if

1037
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: you're thinking about back in Carolina, and Carolina has been

1038
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: feisty all year as a dog, They've been fantastic as

1039
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: dogs against the spread. So they've got a fighting chance

1040
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 4: getting ten and a half points. But they are twenty eighth,

1041
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: tied for twenty eighth in sacks this season. Right, they

1042
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 4: only have thirty sacks on the entire season, And so

1043
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: you're looking at Matthew Stafford with time to throw and

1044
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: it's like, oh gosh, and he gets the Vontae Adams back.

1045
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: The Rams are number one in scoring. They average thirty

1046
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 4: point five points per game, and you're facing a non

1047
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: lethal pass rush that's a bottom five pass rush in

1048
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: terms of generating sacks. That is not good Rams have.

1049
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: They average the most passing yards per game. There's a

1050
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: lot to dislike about Carolina, even with the points here,

1051
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 4: and it's it sounds crazy. This is the biggest playoff

1052
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: road favorite, as we mentioned at the top with the

1053
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: Rams here in the Super Bowl era. But on top

1054
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 4: of everything that the Rams do with yardage and points,

1055
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: which is kind of important, number one in scoring, number

1056
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: ten in scoring defense, they're top ten in both you

1057
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 4: look at what they do in takeaways, right, So they're

1058
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 4: fifth in generating takeaways. I think that's an overlooked part

1059
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: of what they bring to the table. They have twenty

1060
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: six takeaways on the season.

1061
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 5: That's a lot.

1062
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 4: They're top five and takeaways, and they're tied for fourth

1063
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 4: with fewest giveaways. They don't give the ball away very much.

1064
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 4: They take the ball away. They're top five in both

1065
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: of those categories. So man, this just screams Rams and

1066
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: I have the Panthers in a teaser. I have them

1067
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 4: plus seventeen and a half, and I'm still like, no, down,

1068
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: you could. You could, But a lot of times these

1069
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: big spreads, I like teasing up.

1070
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 5: That's just me.

1071
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, you can make an argument the other

1072
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: way as well, no doubt.

1073
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give you another reason why I may have

1074
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 7: four to five my decision on the under in this game,

1075
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 7: especially early in the game, because again, you could have

1076
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 7: a situation where you know teams are feeling each other out.

1077
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 7: Rams obviously lost this game a couple weeks back in Charlotte,

1078
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 7: but today's forecast in Charlotte, you got high wins reported

1079
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 7: at two pm kickoffs at one thirty and then you

1080
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 7: have rains expected throughout the game, I mean eighty nine

1081
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 7: per chance of precipitation during this game, and so you

1082
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 7: factor in that. And then Carolina's kicking game, which has

1083
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 7: been bad from distance. If I have the number right,

1084
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 7: I think their kicker was two out of five from

1085
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 7: fifty plus this season, whereas you see kickers routinely hitting

1086
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 7: near fifty yards or more these days, and I understand

1087
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 7: outdoor kicker a little different from kickers playing in a dome.

1088
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 7: But still, having said that, Carolina's got a kicker they

1089
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 7: don't trust from distance, you know that they're going to

1090
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 7: try to get closer shots for him, which could keep

1091
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 7: the score down because the Rams could force some plus

1092
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 7: fifty punts as a result of that. Defensively, you have

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00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 7: the Rams who they have a very elite passing game,

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00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 7: but they may be forced into a script where to

1095
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 7: avoid a turnover where you could get the crowd behind

1096
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 7: the Panthers, they elect to settle for the short passing game,

1097
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 7: the mid range passing game, as opposed to pushing the

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00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 7: ball vertical, maybe keeping keeping.

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00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: It out of the air.

1100
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 7: Because of the win situation, Stafford he can throw an

1101
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 7: elite spiral and cut through the wind. But depending on

1102
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 7: how hard it's blowing in Charlotte, it could be a problem.

1103
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 7: So yeah, I would say I would say the unders

1104
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 7: in play today in this game, but definitely look at

1105
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 7: that first half as well.

1106
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah at what you're saying too.

1107
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 6: Also, like I like that Karen Williams stuff even more,

1108
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 6: you know, if he is the main guy today and

1109
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 6: we'll get to his prop numbers a little bit.

1110
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: More, or you know, at the end of this hour,

1111
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: we do prop it up.

1112
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 6: But right when I see big spreads like this and

1113
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 6: I'm not like, I do think the Rams win and

1114
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 6: I do kind of lean on them to cover. There's

1115
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 6: this great trend about quarterbacks that are making their playoff

1116
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 6: debut against playoff experienced quarterbacks, and you might be not

1117
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 6: surprised to learn that the quarterbacks making their playoff debut

1118
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 6: suck against the ones that have have experience a big

1119
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: time suck thirty four percent against the spread. So again,

1120
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 6: since two thousand and two, quarterbacks making their first playoff

1121
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 6: start against experienced playoff qbs twenty thirty nine and one

1122
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 6: against the spread twenty and forty straight up. So they're

1123
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 6: not winning games. And that applies to obviously Bryce Young,

1124
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 6: it applies to Kayleb Williams later tonight, and on Sunday,

1125
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 6: it'll apply to Drake May going up against Justin Herbert.

1126
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 6: So you throw that little nugget into the mix, and

1127
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 6: then you throw in all the other stuff that we're

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00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 6: talking about, Like, it's a tough it's an uphill battle

1129
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 6: for Carolina today. So if we write this game script out,

1130
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 6: let's use all the tools that we've just had. Let's

1131
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 6: write this game script. Let's go Scorsese on this, on

1132
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 6: this thing right windy day, Caroline is probably gonna be

1133
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 6: up against it. They're not really going to kick a

1134
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 6: whole lot of field goals. Rams should have a positive

1135
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 6: game script. This is all leading to rushing yards over

1136
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 6: passing attempts under for the Rams. Like that's the vibe

1137
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 6: I get in this game. Is Stafford passing attempts under

1138
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 6: Kiren wins, rushing yards over Rams win?

1139
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: Do they cover?

1140
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 6: Maybe probably coin flip there, But I do think that's

1141
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 6: kind of the script that I'm starting to cook up

1142
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 6: here as we talk this game out.

1143
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 4: Could be could be and uh yeah, we'll see what

1144
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 4: impact the weather has, because you know, listen, the Rams

1145
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 4: aren't going to this game, like we got to cover

1146
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: the number. They're like, we got to win and proceed

1147
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 4: to the next game, right, So, like, if they're up

1148
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 4: by ten, they're not gonna be looking to air it out,

1149
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 4: you know, especially in you know, if there are wind

1150
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: gusts and all this type of stuff. So yeah, they're

1151
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 4: going to try to milk the clock and end the

1152
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: game as quickly as possible. So the weather could make

1153
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 4: an impact, absolutely, it could. Hopefully it'd be a good game.

1154
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: Hopefully it'd be interesting and entertaining to some degree and

1155
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: not just like you know, the NFC South just getting

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Speaker 1: I hope it was not like that.

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Speaker 5: It very well could be.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's dive into just regular old humdrum wild Card weekends,

1197
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: not Super wild Card weekend anymore.

1198
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 5: We've revoked Super. No more Super.

1199
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 4: But if you look at this wild Card weekend slate,

1200
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: any of the six matchups that you hone in on

1201
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: the most sides.

1202
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 5: Are total shamous. What do you have looking?

1203
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: What are you?

1204
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 5: What are your binoculars focused on?

1205
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: Right here?

1206
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, going to be back.

1207
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 10: I I really like this Jags team this year, and

1208
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 10: I like them winning out right against.

1209
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 9: Buffalo on Sunday. Something off, There's something off about this

1210
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 9: bill seam.

1211
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 10: I know they run the ball very well, but I

1212
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 10: think Chryl Lawrence is at a really, really good year,

1213
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 10: and I think this Jacks team was come flown under

1214
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 10: the radar as a real threat to go to the

1215
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 10: Super Bowl.

1216
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 6: Here, I mean, Seamus, it's fair to say that the

1217
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 6: hottest team in the league. I mean they're eight no

1218
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 6: straight up in ats in the last eight and I

1219
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 6: think because of the market they play in, right the

1220
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 6: Douvall stuff with Liam Cohen, you know, to start his tenure,

1221
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 6: maybe they kind of got a little bit overlooked. But

1222
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 6: you're right, like like they are a very uh I

1223
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 6: would say formidable team when you look at their statistics.

1224
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: Now.

1225
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 6: The funny thing is, I think that Jacobe Myers trade

1226
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 6: really really sparked things for them.

1227
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: What's their ceiling? Did you?

1228
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 3: Like?

1229
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 6: In the AFC is kind of wide open? Like can

1230
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 6: can they make the Super Bowl?

1231
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 10: I think he can make it.

1232
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 9: They can win the Super Bowl.

1233
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 10: They're getting the QB play.

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 9: I think Lawrence has been I mean, any other year do.

1235
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 10: You think he'd have a shot at an MVP show.

1236
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 10: And then I think the defense has actually been a

1237
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 10: little bit more underrated as well. I think in that

1238
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 10: division you have the Texans defense getting a lot of

1239
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 10: the shot putting up the gaudy numbers they have. But

1240
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 10: it's such a fascinating team because the AAC just feels

1241
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 10: so wide open this year with the Patriots, even the Chargers,

1242
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 10: and then of course they're the team they're playing on Sunday,

1243
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 10: the Bills with Josh Allen.

1244
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 7: You've got three home dogs wild Card Week, and you

1245
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 7: have the Steelers who are dogged by three hosting the Texans.

1246
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 7: You've got the Bears who are dogged by a point

1247
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 7: and a half. They're hosting the Packers at division rival,

1248
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 7: and of course the Panthers, who are the biggest margin

1249
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 7: on the spread, they're plus ten and a half hosting

1250
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 7: the Rams. Of the home dogs, which one do you

1251
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 7: have the most faith behind?

1252
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 10: Got to be the Bears, right, just like of the three,

1253
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 10: it's got to be the Bears. I feel like they

1254
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 10: definitely the best shot of winning out right, for sure.

1255
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 10: I just I don't see the Steelers tour and maybe

1256
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 10: the Panthers can cover.

1257
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 9: I would tell you this the gym.

1258
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 10: We've certainly taken a lot of interest on the Panthers

1259
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 10: to cover today, getting against the majority of the handle

1260
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 10: and the tickets, Panthers plus ten and a half, and

1261
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 10: plenty of shop takers on the money line for the

1262
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 10: Panthers as well. So it's the funny.

1263
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 9: One where a remain of needing the Rams here by

1264
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 9: kick off.

1265
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 10: But we will see where this where all the real

1266
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 10: recreational action shows up come four thirty. But it's definitely

1267
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 10: an interesting look here for that game for us so far.

1268
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 4: Interesting Okay, So what would you say are your top

1270
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: two or three needs of regular wild card weekend?

1271
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 5: If you're ranking them?

1272
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 9: It's interesting here.

1273
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 10: I think Texans outright is right now, we're looking to

1274
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 10: avoid that. The Steelers are a popular team here on

1275
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 10: our app we take a lot of Steelers' money, and

1276
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 10: it's been a lot of Steelers outright money coming in

1277
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 10: so far.

1278
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 9: So I'd say Steelers just to lose is going to

1279
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 9: be a need for us. Again, I said, right now,

1280
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 9: it feels like Rams covering ten.

1281
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 5: And a half would be good.

1282
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 10: If the Panthers do cover it may not be that

1283
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 10: bad just because we bust them some teasers and whatnot.

1284
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 10: But other than that, like, it's not a lot of

1285
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 10: it's not a ton of lopsided spreads we're seeing so far.

1286
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 10: Right now, right there, we're taking more money on Indiana

1287
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 10: minus seven and a half in the National Championship in

1288
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 10: terms of needs more than some of these playoff games

1289
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 10: this week. So right now the book looks.

1290
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 9: Like we're in a decent spot in a lot of

1291
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 9: these games.

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 6: Honestly, you know, it's funny you mentioned Indiana because I

1293
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 6: saw John Ewing, you know, one of your data pr

1294
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 6: people put out that Indiana actually would be a good

1295
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 6: result in the futures market for you guys based off

1296
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 6: of I guess where some of the other teams stacked up.

1297
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 6: And it is kind of funny how you do see

1298
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 6: the market shift based off of what your future's liability is.

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01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 6: I know that might be in the weeds for some

1300
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 6: of our audience, but can you explain why maybe Indiana

1301
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 6: being a good result in the futures market might actually

1302
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 6: make a more favorable bet straight up in the game

1303
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 6: next Monday.

1304
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 10: Indiana is one of the best future results we could

1305
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 10: have in a long time on our college football outright Booky,

1306
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 10: you know, we were able to get them down pretty

1307
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 10: short odds wives at the start of the year when

1308
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 10: they've really started to get you know, a lot of attention,

1309
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 10: and by the time they everyone knew who they were,

1310
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 10: there wasn't much value left on Themsel kind of drove

1311
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 10: some betters away. Oregon was a decent chunk loser for us,

1312
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 10: so we're happy to see Indiana definitely go through because

1313
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 10: of that as well. Miami is a small liability. I

1314
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 10: shocked it's not higher given there. You could have got

1315
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 10: them one hundred and fifty to one or even higher

1316
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 10: at some spots, you know, the day of the selection show.

1317
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 10: But the way this works out with the futures book,

1318
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 10: we're going to make so much money off Indiana winning

1319
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 10: the national championship. Just stuff down alone. It might it

1320
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 10: should help us with you know moneyline. Parlay that cash

1321
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 10: for Indiana in this game. You know, we're probably going

1322
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 10: to take a lot of Indiana money line in general.

1323
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 10: Will it be enough to wipe out how much we

1324
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 10: win on the futures book.

1325
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: I would doubt it.

1326
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 10: That's how good they are to the futures book for us.

1327
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 10: And I still think we're gonna get plenty of Miami interests.

1328
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 10: Next week they're playing at home. It's the you and

1329
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 10: it's Michael Larvin.

1330
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot of reasons.

1331
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 10: Why people don't need an excuse to bet Miami.

1332
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no doubt there's going to be people on Miami,

1333
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 7: you know, speaking of National Championships, steering it back to

1334
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 7: the NFL and talking about the Super Bowl, which we're

1335
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 7: along way away from that. But you know, remembering that

1336
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 7: Wildcard weekend excludes two of these teams who obviously are

1337
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 7: top seeds, with the Denver Broncos in the Seattle Seahawks.

1338
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: Who are both kind of built similarly.

1339
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 7: You really trust the defenses, you're not so sure about

1340
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 7: the quarterbacks you like, but you don't love the head coaches,

1341
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 7: or at least that's my experience watching both of these

1342
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 7: teams this year. What do you think about this Super

1343
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 7: Bowl in terms of potential matchups because I'm having a

1344
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 7: hard time pinning it on any two teams because I

1345
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 7: think there's a lot of parody in the NFC, and

1346
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 7: I also feel the same way about the AFC. You

1347
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 7: don't have your traditional Hey, well, the Chiefs are going

1348
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 7: to hold down one side of this thing anymore because

1349
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 7: they didn't make it. So what is your best lean

1350
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 7: right now in terms of an AFC champion and an

1351
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 7: NFC champion.

1352
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 10: Sunking up the Jags big time before thereby actually my

1353
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 10: number two team if I'm ranking the AFC teams, I

1354
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 10: have the Texans going to the super Bowl this year.

1355
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 10: I think they are very good. I think all they

1356
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 10: got to do is score twenty four points. They should

1357
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 10: probably win a game, maybe even less than at the

1358
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 10: bang on who they're playing.

1359
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 9: But this is a.

1360
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 10: Playoff experience team. They've been to the playoffs twice with CJ.

1361
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 10: Stroud before and they've won games. So I think they

1362
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 10: finally built up the experience and they finally have a

1363
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 10: championship caliber defense to make a run. And I got

1364
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 10: the Eagles repeating in the NFC.

1365
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1366
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 9: I worked with a lot of Eagles seasons.

1367
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 10: Here in New Jersey at NMGM, and all I hear

1368
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 10: is about how awful Jalen Hurts is, how much Sirianni stinks.

1369
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 9: But they're just going to go to the super Bowl again.

1370
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 9: I find it very silly.

1371
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 10: This defense is as good as the Texans defense. They've

1372
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 10: won two games where they don't complete a pass in

1373
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 10: the second half. That's how good this Eagles defense is.

1374
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 9: And I think they haven't figured out. I think they'll

1375
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 9: be ready to go. I like them Sunday against the

1376
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 9: Niners and I think they'll just I think they'll just

1377
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 9: get there again.

1378
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 10: I think they're really good again.

1379
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 5: Wow. Interesting.

1380
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 4: Okay, so that'd be a three seed versus five seed.

1381
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 4: If there's ever a year for it, it's this season, right.

1382
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 4: It feels wide open?

1383
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 3: All right? With that?

1384
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 4: What's your sham as special today, Seamus? What are you

1385
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 4: looking at?

1386
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 10: In response to them removing super from Super Wildcard weekend,

1387
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 10: I will not be picking an NFL playoff game. We

1388
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 10: go to the hardwood with undefeated Nebraska heading two Bloomington

1389
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 10: and Indiana.

1390
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 9: I'm taking the users.

1391
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 10: I'm taking minus four and a half line seems big,

1392
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 10: feels like a weird one where it's like, oh, the

1393
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 10: undefeated top fifteen teams is you know getting this many points?

1394
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 10: I like Indiana today, We'll take the minus four and

1395
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 10: a half.

1396
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 5: Okay, man, those are always stinky line favorite.

1397
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the top ten team, undefeated favorite gambling?

1398
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 3: What was it?

1399
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 4: Shame as a similar scenario, and I'm not saying it

1400
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 4: applies to this game, but there was a home favorite

1401
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 4: about four and a half. It grew to four and

1402
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 4: a half and there was a buzzer beater and like

1403
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: the home favorite didn't cover? Was that the Clemson game.

1404
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: I remember this week something like that happened where Yeah,

1405
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 4: I think.

1406
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 10: All the undefeated teams are still intact. Sure, right, it

1407
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 10: was the It was the SEC's Auburn Pulvern had a

1408
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 10: crazy come back against A and M and buzzer beater,

1409
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 10: three gut whites off the board. Controversially, it was really close.

1410
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, crazy stuff.

1411
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 4: Well, hey, hopefully you're on the right side Seamus, and

1412
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 4: you're on the right side of this interview. You got

1413
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: that working for you man, Good stuff as always, and

1414
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 4: we'll catch you soon, Seamus.

1415
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 10: Thanks you guys, enjoying the games today.

1416
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: You two.

1417
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,480
Speaker 4: There is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading at BETTMGM.

1418
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 4: All right, so we pivot from the NFL to more

1419
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 4: of the college game over here, because it was a

1420
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 4: wild week the week that was with Demond Williams, the

1421
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 4: Washington quarterback, our guy d will So if you didn't

1422
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 4: catch the timeline, he initially agreed to a new nil

1423
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 4: deal to remain at Washington, and then he posted like, yeah,

1424
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna hit the portal, and Washington was like,

1425
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna do what. We gotta sign contract over here.

1426
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 4: We got lawyers on this we're not looking to release

1427
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 4: you at all. And now it turns out that Williams

1428
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: is going to stay at Washington after all. And there

1429
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: were heavy rumors that LSU and Lane Kiffin they were

1430
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 4: involved in the Demon Williams sweepstakes, but as of now

1431
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 4: he's not looking to transfer anymore. But he took the

1432
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 4: scenic crowd, we'll put it that way, to staying at Washington.

1433
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 4: But it seems like an episode of remember the old

1434
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,919
Speaker 4: school movie Jerry Maguire where Tom Cruise is the sports

1435
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 4: agent and he's talking to the dad of one of

1436
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 4: the you know, NFL recruits, the NFL prospects, and the

1437
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: dad is like, I don't do contracts, but you do

1438
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 4: have my word and it's as solid as oak. Like

1439
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 4: that's what it seems like what we're doing here in

1440
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 4: college football, where players are like agreeing I'll stay and

1441
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 4: then they look to go, or they sign a contract

1442
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 4: and then they look to go as well.

1443
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 5: It's wild, but at least to have some sort of structure.

1444
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 4: It looks like this is a good outcome with what

1445
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 4: happened with Demon Williams, where if you agree to an

1446
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 4: NIL deal, you have a contract in place, like you

1447
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 4: shouldn't be looking to transfer without playing it down right.

1448
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 4: That should be the baseline of what we have in

1449
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 4: college football these days.

1450
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know.

1451
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:17,440
Speaker 7: Look right now, college football is operating like a professional

1452
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 7: sport without any guidelines. And when you have a situation

1453
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:26,480
Speaker 7: like this, foul play is going to enter the conversation

1454
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 7: at every turn. And that's an over exaggeration. It's not

1455
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 7: going to happen at every turn. But you're talking about

1456
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 7: people grifters, frankly in certain cases, because not every agent

1457
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 7: is a great agent, not every business manager is a

1458
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 7: good business manager. Not a lot of parents of student

1459
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 7: athletes have a great deal of savvy how to enter

1460
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 7: contract negotiations with coaches, universities, general managers of college football programs,

1461
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 7: or agents themselves, or business managers themselves to get their

1462
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 7: life started on good footing or continue their athletic career

1463
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 7: without making mistakes along the way. There's gonna be plenty

1464
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 7: of those because there are zero guidelines. Now, could this

1465
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 7: have been a result of bad advice?

1466
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 3: It certainly could have been.

1467
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 7: Could this have been the result of quote unquote like

1468
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 7: was cited, philosophical differences between the coaching staff and the player.

1469
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 7: Maybe could it have been a money grab or an

1470
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 7: items grab, or a situation where maybe something with promise

1471
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 7: that wasn't fulfilled that isn't necessarily monetary, that is more

1472
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 7: service provided. I've been hearing nil stories, and I talked

1473
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 7: to a lot of college football coaches throughout the season.

1474
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe.

1475
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 7: It's like we're paying for travel and transport and suites

1476
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 7: to every game for some of these high school recruits

1477
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 7: parents or family members. You're getting down to the minutia

1478
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 7: of how many first class tickets you can provide to

1479
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 7: extended family members. You're talking about car dealership deals. If

1480
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 7: I don't get a certain level of four to pickup truck,

1481
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 7: I'm not coming to your university like it gets. We're

1482
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 7: talking about living situations. Where can you put me up?

1483
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 7: I want to be in the penthouse of that apartment

1484
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 7: in that city where that college is located.

1485
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: You know it's I don't want to pay for a

1486
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 3: single meal. It's unbelievable how complex.

1487
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,839
Speaker 7: Some of these deals are. And they only get sweeter

1488
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 7: if the athlete performs better. And it's so many balls

1489
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,480
Speaker 7: in there. It's so much to juggle because the contracts

1490
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 7: are so vastly different for each and every player. So

1491
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 7: this could have been as simple as, hey, there was

1492
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 7: a misunderstanding and it got sorted out, or this could

1493
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 7: have been as complex as, hey, we need to get

1494
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 7: something done for demand within the next twenty four to

1495
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 7: forty eight to seventy two hours or seven days.

1496
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 3: Otherwise he's actually going to walk.

1497
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 7: And maybe there was a counter offer made that was

1498
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 7: satisfactory in boom, it's done. But the biggest problem with

1499
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 7: all of this, I think players should be paid. I

1500
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 7: think they should I love that players are getting paid.

1501
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 7: They should have been paid the whole way. I do

1502
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 7: not like the fact that we're operating without guardrails because

1503
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 7: they're going to be players, coaches, agents, business managers, universities,

1504
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 7: et cetera. Taking advantage of this situation. It's only going

1505
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 7: to get worse.

1506
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 6: College football is in a really weird place right now,

1507
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 6: really weird plays. I have no idea how we get

1508
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 6: out of this place. Maybe there's a commissioner of college

1509
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 6: football that gets voted in or you know, enshrined in

1510
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 6: some kind of way, and they can you know, arbitrate

1511
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 6: on these issues. But from the information, and again I'm

1512
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 6: just reading sources, and you know, using my media background

1513
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 6: to try to figure out and get to the bottom

1514
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 6: of this based on what I gleaned from it, he

1515
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 6: didn't want to play for Washington anymore. Maybe he got

1516
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 6: some offers from somewhere else and he decided to leave,

1517
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 6: and Washington said, no, bro, you sign this deal so

1518
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 6: you can either play for us or we're gonna sue

1519
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 6: your pants off. And then he said, okay, maybe I

1520
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 6: should not get sued, and then he ended up coming back.

1521
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 6: Now it's kind of a weird situation because it's not

1522
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 6: kind of it is a weird situation because now he's

1523
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 6: you would assume playing under duress. Like it's like when

1524
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 6: you beg your ex to come back, or you beg

1525
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 6: your girlfriend to come back, you know, or you know,

1526
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 6: you threat you have some kind of you know, arrangement

1527
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 6: with her and she comes back, and the relationship sucks

1528
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 6: because you both hate each other because you threaten the sewer. Like, so,

1529
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 6: now he's playing for Washington apparently, but you would imagine

1530
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 6: there's some tension there, and how is that tension going

1531
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 6: to play out on the field. For example, let's say

1532
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 6: he takes a bit of an ankle injury at one

1533
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 6: point during the season, he gonna fight through that he

1534
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 6: gonna play hard for the Huskies, or is he gonna

1535
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 6: bow out and say well, I'm.

1536
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: Going to the NFL next year anyway, So this really

1537
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: is important.

1538
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 6: So now you've created this tension that I don't know

1539
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 6: if Washington is going to be happy with their decision

1540
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 6: in the end to really make Like from what I'm reading,

1541
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 6: Washington said, you have to play for us or we

1542
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 6: are going to sue you. Like the quote that I'm

1543
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 6: reading is either play for Washington or go to the

1544
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 6: Supreme Court. And I think that's a bit of a hyperbole,

1545
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 6: but that is obviously where the Huskies were coming from here.

1546
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 6: But now he's back, he can't imagine he's happy to

1547
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 6: be back. So now you have this weird situation where

1548
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 6: the best player, most important player on your team is

1549
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 6: probably not fully bought in. So again, very weird situation.

1550
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 6: College football is in a weird players right now. I

1551
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 6: don't know what the next step of this is, but

1552
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 6: it obviously continues to be another level of strangeness, wild

1553
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 6: westness to this college football landscape with the Nile.

1554
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, if you have a signed contract, you can't

1555
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 4: just be like psych I'm actually bouncing. It's like, no, man,

1556
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 4: you have a signed deal. Like that's the baseline of

1557
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 4: what should be honored by the way. The college basketball

1558
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 4: game I was thinking of it was Clemson. It was

1559
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 4: SMU and Clemson. So you had a situation midweek right

1560
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 4: where Clemson is a home favorite facing a ranked team.

1561
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 4: They're facing SMU, and the line hovered between Clemson favored

1562
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 4: by three and a half or four and a half.

1563
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: Very important because SMU hit a buzzer beater to lose

1564
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 4: by four. So if you laid four and a half,

1565
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 4: you got screwed by a buzzer beater right there. So

1566
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, we'll keep that in mind when it comes

1567
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 4: to these college games.

1568
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 5: I know, Chris, I know.

1569
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 4: We've got rich Orenberger Penn State, All American. We've got

1570
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,639
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1574
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1575
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1577
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Speaker 4: All right, Coming up next, prop it Up the prop

1578
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 4: betting market. We compare notes right around the corner. It

1579
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,040
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1580
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1590
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 5: All right, let's do this.

1591
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 3: Prop it up.

1592
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 4: Player plays, Okay, prop bets galore, Jared, we start with you.

1593
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 3: What do you like?

1594
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm going back to Karen Williams.

1595
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: Guys.

1596
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 6: I think if we're picking a prop today, if we're

1597
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 6: picking a player today that I think is gonna get

1598
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 6: the most run, I think it's Karen Williams. I bet

1599
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 6: over sixty five and a half rushing yards last night.

1600
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 6: It's sixty nine and a half now, not as nice.

1601
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: Pun and ten, but I would still bet it up

1602
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:01,799
Speaker 1: to seventy.

1603
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 6: I think it's fair. He had thirteen carries and seventy

1604
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 6: two yards in the first matchup. The reason that I

1605
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 6: think he's gonna eclipse that today. So I base a

1606
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 6: lot of this stuff on rushing attempts and the rushing

1607
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 6: attempts prop for Karin.

1608
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: Williams today's fourteen and a half.

1609
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 6: Well, he's had at least sixty six yards in all

1610
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 6: eight games this year where he's had at least fourteen

1611
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 6: rushing attempts. So if they think he's gonna run it

1612
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 6: for fourteen or fifteen times today and we think rams

1613
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 6: are gonna be in a positive game script, but I

1614
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 6: feel like seventy is a very fair number to hit.

1615
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 6: So Kyin Williams over sixty nine and a half rushing

1616
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 6: yards my prop bet of the day.

1617
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 7: Okay, Actually I'm right there with you in terms of

1618
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 7: that game and actually that player, because I'm on Karen

1619
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 7: Williams too. And for the stat you just pointed out

1620
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 7: rushing attempts, I think he's gonna have.

1621
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 3: Over fourteen and a half.

1622
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 7: His average on the season is over fifteen and just

1623
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 7: given the weather in Charlotte. They're going on the road.

1624
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 7: It's gonna be windy. It's going to be it's gonna

1625
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 7: be rainy. You're gonna have a situation where the Rams,

1626
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 7: I believe, are gonna be playing with the lead a

1627
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 7: positive game script as you just pointed out, Jared, So

1628
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna be handing their best running back

1629
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 7: the ball often.

1630
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 3: So give me the.

1631
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 7: Over on the rushing category of the rushing attempts fourteen

1632
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 7: and a half. And then you know, kind of a

1633
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 7: correlated pick here if you want a second one, if

1634
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 7: you want to take a look at Bryce Young.

1635
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: I think he throws a pick today.

1636
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna be throwing the football a lot

1637
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 7: more than he normally does. So I'm gonna take a

1638
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 7: Bryce Young pick as well. In terms of a prop

1639
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 7: to look at uh, I think it's like minus one

1640
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 7: p thirty five at bet MGM. But but the the

1641
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 7: Rams defense are ballhawks, So give me Bryce Young throwing

1642
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 7: a pick.

1643
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 4: Also, all right, I'm gonna look to this Chargers Patriots game.

1644
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,480
Speaker 5: I think Justin Herbert is gonna have a lot of completions.

1645
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 4: You know, this is not a Chargers offense that throws

1646
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 4: it deep a ton. We all know about their starting

1647
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 4: offensive tackles are out now, the.

1648
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 5: Patriots don't have a ferocious pass rush.

1649
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 4: But I still think that Herbert, he's so precise, like

1650
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 4: he's gonna look underneath quite a bit, and they're gonna

1651
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 4: stretch the field every now and then. Maybe they throw

1652
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 4: a deep ball to Quinton Johnston, you know, try to

1653
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 4: loosen up the coverage a little bit. But they're not

1654
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 4: gonna be living with like this old school you know,

1655
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 4: like raiders, like all streaks down the side, like that's

1656
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,839
Speaker 4: not what they're gonna do. So I look for Herbert

1657
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 4: to throw it short quite a bit. I look for

1658
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 4: him to complete a lot of passes. I look for

1659
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 4: the Chargers to be.

1660
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 5: Trailing in this game. So give me over nineteen and

1661
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 5: a half.

1662
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 4: Completions for justin Herbert tonight, Tomorrow night and Sunday Night football.

1663
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 5: I think he gets that.

1664
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 3: I like it.

1665
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. I think Herbert, I think

1666
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: he's gonna outplay Drake Man in this game. That's my vibe.

1667
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 4: All right, all right, coming up next, somehow, it's only

1668
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 4: the third installments.

1669
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 5: We will get to that matchup in the full breakdown.

1670
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: Next, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1671
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: Oh what is going on?

1672
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 4: Happy Saturday to you as we are all set to

1673
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: the beginning of the NFL playoffs. Doubleheader today, triple header tomorrow.

1674
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 4: We get a Monday night game on top of this.

1675
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 4: This is beautiful. No longer Super wild Card weekend. It's

1676
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 4: just regular old humdrum wild Card weekend now. No more

1677
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 4: super no more.

1678
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: Don't call it that.

1679
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: We don't roll like that, no more.

1680
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 4: That day's dead dog, like Denzel said in training Day.

1681
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 4: What we got going on here?

1682
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 3: All right?

1683
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 4: So it's only the third installment of Packers Bears in

1684
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 4: the postseason. A little surprising, right, only the third time

1685
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 4: that they will meet. And I love this stat. So

1686
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 4: the Packers won in twenty ten, the Bears won in

1687
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 4: nineteen forty one, so it's rivalry, you know how long

1688
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 4: it's lasted. It's only the third time they've met in

1689
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 4: the playoffs, so kind of interesting. And listen to Bears.

1690
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 4: They have not done good job all season long stopping

1691
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 4: the rush, but as of late, the Packers rush defense

1692
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 4: good lord, mat I still have nightmares of what happened

1693
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 4: against the Ravens where Derrick Henry ran all over them

1694
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 4: over two hundred yards rushing four touchdowns when they're facing

1695
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 4: a backup quarterback. So the first part of this matchup

1696
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 4: is like who can begin to stop the run, because

1697
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 4: if either offense is just running the ball at will,

1698
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 4: and you've got some balance there running and passing, like

1699
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 4: the Bears don't have a pass rush either, Like, there

1700
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 4: could be some points in this one. But that's one

1701
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 4: of the things. And when you look at Jordan Love,

1702
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 4: if you're looking at the passing game for either team,

1703
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 4: Jordan Love he is Jared goff like in terms of

1704
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 4: when he's clean, his numbers are outstanding. When he's facing

1705
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 4: a pass rush, yikes, his numbers fall off of a cliff.

1706
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 4: And the Bears have not generated a pass rush all

1707
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 4: season long. So if Jordan Love has time and he

1708
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 4: has thrived all season long, when he's got time and

1709
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 4: he's clean, it could be a long day at the

1710
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 4: office for the Bears defense man. They have to force

1711
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 4: takeaways to stay afloat. That's all the defense can do

1712
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 4: is forced takeaways, and if they're not doing it, it

1713
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 4: could be a trail city, like you're trailing late. I

1714
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 4: would expect that to be the case. If they are

1715
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 4: not forcing turnovers. They have to do that. That's what

1716
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: they've lived on and thrived on this season.

1717
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, I really think that the Bears

1718
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 7: have had a little bit of that magic this year

1719
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 7: that ran out a little bit toward the end of

1720
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 7: the year. Now, tough matchups for the final two weeks

1721
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 7: of the regular season for the Bears, and you look

1722
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 7: at the Packers' recent skid, they had actually some of

1723
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 7: like what you would call the NFL's murderers row the

1724
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 7: final four games of their season, which led to losses.

1725
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: But if you look at the Bears and you look

1726
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 3: at the Packers.

1727
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 7: Over the course of the season, like who really benefited

1728
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 7: the most from luck, I would say Chicago. They're six

1729
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 7: and two in one possession games. Six and two. I

1730
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 7: mean that means that in coin flip games, which the

1731
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 7: majority of these one score games in the NFL are,

1732
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 7: the coin has fall on a favorable bull side for

1733
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 7: the Bears, and that has been the result of you know,

1734
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 7: fortuitous interceptions at the right time or turnovers by teams

1735
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 7: against good calls that have fallen in their favor at

1736
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 7: the end of games, and also really good plays and

1737
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 7: scripted plays by Ben Johnson and some unbelievable improvisations by

1738
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 7: Caleb Williams. I'm not taking anything away from him, but

1739
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 7: in their final matchup of the regular season Bears Packers,

1740
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 7: Love exited the game with a concussion, and that's really

1741
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 7: the storyline. I know the Bears won, but they were

1742
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 7: not expected to, I mean not even close to expected

1743
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 7: to win this game, and they found a way, especially

1744
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 7: since the Packers were playing with a backup who got

1745
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 7: thrust it into action in the midst of that game.

1746
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be different this time around. However,

1747
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 7: I'll put it this way. I think who do I

1748
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:20,839
Speaker 7: trust more in the first half between these two teams,

1749
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 7: it would be Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur to come

1750
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 7: out with a pretty red hot opening game script, and

1751
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 7: I think I think I do trust Ben Johnson.

1752
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 3: But in terms of playoffs, the.

1753
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 7: Time you've been there as a head coach in this league,

1754
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 7: I got to give it to Lafleur and and he is.

1755
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 7: He's an offensive minded guy who has had success with

1756
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 7: his opening scripts all season long. So I like I

1757
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 7: like the Packers in the first half in a big way.

1758
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian nailed it.

1759
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 6: Chicago leads the NFL and EPA created from interceptions this year.

1760
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 6: The EPA is expected points at it. It's an analytical term.

1761
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 6: I like to use it to kind of gauge how

1762
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 6: a team is successful down to down. Success rate is

1763
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 6: another one, but I prefer EPA. It kind of reminds

1764
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 6: me of.

1765
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: The baseball term.

1766
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 6: Right In baseball, a walk and a home run are

1767
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 6: both considered successful plays, so they would be counted the

1768
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 6: same under the success rate category. But what adds more

1769
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 6: win expectancy to your situation.

1770
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: A walk or a home run.

1771
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 6: So EPA is my preferred metric when I'm tracking this stuff.

1772
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 6: And the Bears are the best team in the NFL

1773
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 6: at gaining points from interceptions very fluky, very hard to

1774
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 6: continue that. But then you get this Jordan Love situation.

1775
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 6: Who hasn't played in three weeks. Green Bay has lost

1776
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 6: four consecutive games, so for context, that's only happened once

1777
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 6: in the last twenty five years a team entering the

1778
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 6: playoffs on a four game losing streak. Obviously, it can't

1779
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 6: happen all of th because if you lose four in

1780
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 6: a row, odds are not even in a good enough

1781
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 6: position to be in the playoffs. But green Bay did

1782
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 6: enough early in the year where they were able to

1783
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 6: sneak in despite a four game losing streak. Last year,

1784
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 6: the Steelers entered the playoffs on a four game losing streak,

1785
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 6: and we all know what happened to Russell Wilson and

1786
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 6: company in the Ravens in the playoffs, they got beat

1787
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 6: by two scores. So I just I don't trust that

1788
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, Green Bay, who's been playing terrible

1789
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 6: football over the last month, is just gonna snap their

1790
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 6: fingers and wake up because it's the playoffs and Jordan

1791
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 6: Love's gonna have to get back in a bit of

1792
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 6: a groove.

1793
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: He hasn't played again in three weeks.

1794
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 6: So my lean here is first half under even though

1795
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 6: obviously both defenses have holes.

1796
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: No Michael Parsons for Green Bay.

1797
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 6: I know Chicago's defense, as we've said, living on turnovers

1798
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 6: and they haven't been ass buttoned up. But I think

1799
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 6: Chicago's gonna run the heck out of it. They did

1800
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 6: that in their big game against the Eagles a few

1801
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 6: weeks ago. They did that against the Packers a few

1802
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 6: weeks ago. Their inside running game has been fantastic with

1803
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 6: Swift and the nun guy this year, and going back

1804
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 6: to some EPA numbers, Green Bay is twenty sixth in

1805
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 6: the NFL in EPA on inside runs, and it's been

1806
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 6: even worse since Parsons got hurt. They just don't have

1807
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 6: the beef upfront with their defensive line and their ability

1808
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 6: to rush the passer to take the pressure off of

1809
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 6: some of these inside runs. So I think Chicago Ben

1810
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 6: Johnson's been masterful at dialing up the running game. And

1811
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 6: I know he's an offensive wizard do you think passing,

1812
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 6: but the run schemes for Chicago have been unbelievable this year.

1813
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: I think that's the vibe I get in this game.

1814
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 6: Take the pressure off Caleb Williams making his first playoff start,

1815
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 6: put the pressure on this Green Bay rush defense which

1816
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 6: has been susceptible to the inside run. And maybe you

1817
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 6: steal an interception, right, That's what the calling cards been.

1818
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 6: I think in order to win this game, they're gonna

1819
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 6: have to win the turnover battle, Brian, But I do

1820
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 6: see a bit of an edge for the Chicago run game.

1821
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1822
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 4: That's the thing, man is, you know these games, when

1823
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 4: we break them down, it's almost just assumed where it's

1824
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 4: like listen, man, the turnover battle is gonna meet yeah

1825
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 4: a lot, right, but this one more so than your

1826
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 4: run of the mill game or playoff game.

1827
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 5: If you look at the.

1828
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 4: Bears, they're number one in takeaways, they're number one in giveaways.

1829
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 4: They take it away the most. They have thirty three

1830
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 4: turnovers forced this season, thirty three takeaways, and they've only

1831
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 4: given it away eleven times. They're number one in both categories.

1832
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 4: They take it away from you, they don't give it away.

1833
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 4: And so, like what Jared just said is really important.

1834
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 4: Where man, you've got to if you're the Packers, you've

1835
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 4: just got to be preaching all week long ball security, man,

1836
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 4: Like when you're going down to the ground like tight,

1837
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 4: you know all these points of pressure, like don't be

1838
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 4: loose with the football at all, Like if you are

1839
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 4: loose for a millisecond, that'd be enough, might be enough

1840
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 4: for them to put punch that thing right on out.

1841
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 4: So if the Packers are sound with not turning the

1842
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 4: ball over, you're forcing a bad defense to come up

1843
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 4: with enough stops when they're giving up yards regularly, points regularly,

1844
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 4: that's a really tough ask. Like the Bears, if you

1845
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 4: look at their defense, just their numbers. They're twenty second

1846
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 4: against the pass, they're twenty seventh against the rush, They're

1847
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 4: twenty third in scoring defense. What are they without takeaways?

1848
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 4: They are a bad defense, that's what. They don't have

1849
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 4: a pass rush. They can't they can't slow you down.

1850
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 4: So at ball security is a premium for the Packers today.

1851
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 4: And also Jordan Love making good decisions not turning the

1852
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 4: football over. The other thing, you guys alluded to this

1853
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,759
Speaker 4: if you're looking at the first half, and the Bears

1854
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 4: have had slow starts in each of their games against

1855
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 4: the Packers this season. They trailed fourteen to three and

1856
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 4: also six to nothing at halftime against the Packers. So

1857
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 4: Bears obviously want to get out to a better start,

1858
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 4: but they've had a lot of trouble in the first

1859
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 4: two regular season games against the Packers.

1860
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, a slower start is absolutely consistent

1861
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 7: with what the Bears have done this season. They they

1862
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 7: average eleven and a half points in the first half,

1863
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 7: which is right around league average. So in terms of

1864
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 7: a playoff team, you would expect to see more of

1865
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 7: these statistical categories reaching the top ten, but this hovers

1866
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 7: around average. They're fourteen and a half or slightly less

1867
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 7: than fourteen and a half in the second second half

1868
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 7: of games, which ranks fourth. So they definitely are a

1869
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 7: team that is a little slow to warm up in

1870
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 7: many of these football games, and as a result they've

1871
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 7: gone they have a losing record. I forget exactly what

1872
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 7: it is against the spread in the first half of games.

1873
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 7: So it is going to be one of those things

1874
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 7: where who do you think comes out to a hotter start?

1875
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 3: And in my mind, if I.

1876
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 7: Think about who do I think has the better opportunity

1877
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 7: to get started quicker?

1878
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 3: This isn't I'm not talking about the whole game.

1879
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 7: This isn't a commentary on who I think the Bears

1880
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 7: very very probably even could win this game. I'm kind

1881
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 7: of with Seamus because we talked about home dogs, and

1882
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 7: amongst the home dogs, he picked the Bears as being

1883
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 7: the one that he really likes the most between them

1884
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 7: and and the Steelers and obviously Carolina. But this is

1885
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 7: a commentary on the first half. Bears a little bit

1886
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 7: of a slow starter. Matt Lafleur, Jordan Love kind of

1887
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 7: been here before, especially Matt Lafleur in the head coaching

1888
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 7: Seed has been in the postseason many many times. I

1889
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 7: think they're gonna have a better script, and I think

1890
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 7: Green Bay gets out to a hotter start.

1891
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 6: So this has nothing to do with any like sharp

1892
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 6: insights or numbers or anything like that.

1893
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: This is just straight disrespect.

1894
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 6: Chicago won the NFC North, they won the division, They

1895
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 6: are facing a divisional opponent in a division they won.

1896
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: They are at home. Yeah, and they are an underdog.

1897
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: That's just disrespectful.

1898
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 6: Like and I know why they're an underdog right the

1899
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 6: way that the numbers are cooked up DVA and EPA

1900
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 6: and all these you know, statistics and analytics and stuff.

1901
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 6: The game's not played on paper. I think at some

1902
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 6: point we do have to give Chicago credit for winning

1903
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 6: these games, even though they haven't looked sexy doing it.

1904
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,560
Speaker 6: And to Brian's point, and I agree with it, the

1905
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 6: numbers are not great. They're giving up a lot of

1906
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 6: you know, defensive metrics look bad. The the interceptions without

1907
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 6: the turnovers, they're very below average.

1908
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 1: But at some point the game.

1909
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 6: Evolves past paper and it's played on a field where

1910
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 6: emotions and you know, heart and hustle is involved, things

1911
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 6: that can't be quantified in tangibles. And Ben Johnson this

1912
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 6: year has done one heck of a job. You could

1913
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 6: argue he's the coach of the year. At some point

1914
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 6: we have to, you know, evolve past the paper and

1915
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 6: say Chicago is just playing better this year.

1916
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: This is a better season for them.

1917
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 6: And the opposite argument to that is, well, you play

1918
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 6: enough games and eventually the team on paper will come

1919
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 6: out on top. And Chicago won the last one in

1920
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 6: crazy fashion. That game was nuts. Chicago had no business

1921
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 6: winning that game. You run it back a few weeks later,

1922
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 6: Odds are the team that's better on paper is gonna win,

1923
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 6: but the game's not played on paper.

1924
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 3: And this is Brian.

1925
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 6: At the visional opponent and in a division you won

1926
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 6: and you're a home underdog.

1927
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:36,919
Speaker 1: It's it's very disrespectful to the Bears.

1928
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 3: It is.

1929
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 4: But what's interesting to me about the Bears is there

1930
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 4: are two very different ways to look at them. Because

1931
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 4: on one hand, you could look at them and it's

1932
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 4: just an eye roll. It's like they have six come

1933
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,839
Speaker 4: from behind wins in the final two minutes this season,

1934
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 4: Like that's absurd. Like some of these these these comebacks

1935
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 4: that you mention, the one at home against the Packers,

1936
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 4: they recovered an on side kick, they had like a

1937
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 4: one percent chance to win that game, and somehow, some

1938
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 4: way they did. So you could look at them like

1939
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 4: Vegas and the books are looking at them and just

1940
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 4: roll your eyes like this team is fugazy. They have

1941
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 4: fougayzy written all over them. Or you could look at

1942
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 4: this team and say, although they have some flukey wins,

1943
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 4: there's just something about they are the zombies of the

1944
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 4: NFL this season that you just have a hard time

1945
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 4: killing them. They're like Teddy KGB and rounders like alligator blood.

1946
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 4: Can't get rid of them, right, Like that's what the

1947
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 4: Bears are. So you could look at them very critically

1948
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 4: and it's just like it's flukey win after flukey win.

1949
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 4: You can't buy this team at all. What are they

1950
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 4: without takeaways? They're nothing, Or you could look at them

1951
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 4: and say that's true, but there's just something about them

1952
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 4: where maybe they get a lucky break, maybe they forced

1953
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 4: something to happen, but they're.

1954
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 5: Still there at the end, Like you could have been.

1955
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 4: Crushing them all game and here they are, what's still

1956
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 4: having a chance. The Lions were up sixteen to nothing

1957
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 4: and the next thing you know, they have the ball

1958
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,759
Speaker 4: and it's a tie score and you're like, what just happened?

1959
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 4: That's been the Bears in twenty twenty five. Man, they

1960
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 4: just keep coming after you.

1961
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, they do, they do. They don't give up. You

1962
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 7: know what what I really appreciate about Ben Johnson is

1963
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 7: he unlocked Caleb Williams. And and what I mean by

1964
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 7: that is he got Caleb Williams out of thinking about

1965
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 7: what he's supposed to do and just doing. And so

1966
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 7: as a result of that, when you have a coach

1967
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 7: who trusts you, who puts you in a game plan

1968
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 7: that you understand, and you don't have to think too much.

1969
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,759
Speaker 7: And I don't know exactly what that means now, clearly

1970
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 7: he's employed a lot with that offense that work for

1971
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 7: Jared Goff and really unlocked Jared Goff in Detroit when

1972
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 7: he was offensive coordinator with the Lions. And you can

1973
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 7: see it in the route concepts. They're doing a lot

1974
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 7: of similar things downfield which have really helped Caleb Williams.

1975
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 7: And I would say the rate is compliment you could

1976
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 7: give to any coordinator or head coach who calls plays

1977
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 7: or is intimately involved in either side of the ball,

1978
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 7: is they present a very difficult offense or defense to

1979
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 7: prepare for, but it's very simple for their players to understand,

1980
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 7: so their players can be more reactive, especially when you

1981
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 7: have a quarterback with as much talent as Caleb Williams

1982
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 7: does and with as much ability to improvise as Caleb

1983
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 7: Williams does. And so that's a big reason why they've

1984
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 7: been in these games too. The defense have been ballhawks.

1985
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,719
Speaker 7: They've created a lot of turnovers and that creates chaos

1986
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 7: for a game script for any opponent you're playing against offensively,

1987
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 7: because at any point you could have a big turning

1988
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 7: point moment. But I want to give a ton of

1989
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 7: credit to Ben Johnson in his first year as a

1990
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,799
Speaker 7: head coach. You know, even though the Bears it's felt

1991
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 7: a little lucky at times, they stay after you.

1992
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 3: That is a motivated bunch.

1993
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 7: I remember what the post game, where I believe it

1994
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 7: was Ben Johnson did. He popped the top and he

1995
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 7: started flexing on. Everybody was shouting in the middle of

1996
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 7: the room. He's now again. Was that a little gratuitous? Yeah,

1997
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 7: But clearly he's ensnared the hearts and minds of this roster.

1998
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 7: They believe in him. He's a young voice. He supplies

1999
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 7: a tremendous amount of energy, and he watched Dan Campbell

2000
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 7: his leadership style with the Detroit Lions, who one of

2001
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 7: the most motivated groups after having a real struggle, you know,

2002
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 7: getting out to a start or starting over a franchise

2003
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 7: in Detroit, and he's done some miraculous things to turn

2004
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,879
Speaker 7: around that franchise. I think Ben Johnson's doing it with Chicago.

2005
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 7: I think this is an inspired group. And so yeah,

2006
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 7: to your point Jared about how being home dogs after

2007
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 7: winning the division, that's a slap in the face, especially

2008
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 7: against the division rival.

2009
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 3: And then to your point, Brian.

2010
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 7: There's no quit in the Bears. There's absolutely no quit

2011
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 7: in the Bears. So if anything, what I'm hoping to see,

2012
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,520
Speaker 7: what I'm planning on seeing is one of the closest

2013
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 7: games games that we're going to see wild Card weekend.

2014
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 7: I think this one comes down to the wire for

2015
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 7: Bears Packers, And if I'm being honest, considering how many games,

2016
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 7: again single possession games the Bears have won this season

2017
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 7: six and two through eight one possession games, this very

2018
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,440
Speaker 7: easily could fall to Chicago.

2019
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'll echo two more points that I've already

2020
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 6: talked about. But I want to hammer him home, because

2021
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 6: I think they are the factor in this game that

2022
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 6: I look through the most.

2023
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: A Green Bay's ice cold right now, Rich, How hard.

2024
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 6: Is it when you've lost four games in a row

2025
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 6: to just snap out of it and wake up and

2026
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 6: play your best ball in the playoffs? I mean again,

2027
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 6: there's a reason why it's only happened once in the

2028
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 6: last twenty five years, right, Like, it is not easy

2029
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 6: to do.

2030
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 7: It is one of the we were just talking about

2031
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 7: this with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and they were able

2032
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 7: to prevail against Carolina Panthers. It is really hard to do, though,

2033
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 7: to reverse the script when you're on a tear, especially

2034
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 7: when the pressure's mounting, like Tampa Bay wasn't playing for

2035
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 7: very much in that final game.

2036
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 3: This team's playing for everything, So all of a sudden you're.

2037
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 7: There and then your favorites but geez, like, you know,

2038
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 7: you start doubting yourself, like we really deserve to be

2039
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 7: here in the postseason now. With a head coach who

2040
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 7: has more veteran experience, Matt Lafleur being that guy, and

2041
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 7: with a quarterback who has some playoff experience, Jordan Love

2042
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 7: being that guy, you can make an argument that they

2043
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 7: will still be prepared, they'll be able to block out the.

2044
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Noise and all that.

2045
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 7: But still, that is a rough way to finish out

2046
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 7: your season when many of the teams who you face

2047
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 7: down the stretch of the season are teams that you

2048
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 7: could or will potentially see in the postseason here or

2049
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 7: teams just like them. So yeah, yeah, that is a

2050
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 7: part of this conversation is the emotional toil that losing

2051
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 7: your last four games of the regular season will have

2052
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,520
Speaker 7: on the green Bay pack.

2053
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: I like Chicago and it'll come wrong.

2054
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 6: I'll tip my cap to the books for setting a

2055
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 6: good number and baiting me into taking the home dog there.

2056
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 6: But I can't. I can't bat there. Those are the

2057
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 6: two things Brian. Green Bays lost four in a row,

2058
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 6: and Chicago was a home dog to a divisional opponent

2059
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 6: and a division they won. Like I just I can't

2060
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 6: get there on the Packers today.

2061
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

2062
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 5: I can get there. I'm on the Packers, man.

2063
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 4: I'll go against you guys, but you know, for fun,

2064
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 4: I just look at it super fast.

2065
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 5: I know we got to go.

2066
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 4: The Packers do a good job of not turning the

2067
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 4: ball over. They only have thirteen giveaways on the season, right,

2068
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 4: and that's third in the NFL. So with the Bears

2069
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 4: thriving on takeaways, the Packers do a good job not

2070
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 4: giving it away. And I don't worry about the four

2071
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 4: game losing streak. Two and a half of those games

2072
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 4: are without Jordan Love, Like, I throw that out. Like

2073
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 4: Week eighteen was, they didn't play hardly anybody against the Vikings.

2074
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 4: And it's not like the Bears are red hot. They

2075
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 4: were lucky to beat the Packers were covering an on

2076
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 4: side kick. Then they lost their last two games, So

2077
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 4: that doesn't throw me off at all. I think the

2078
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 4: Packers are better. I can't trust the Bears defense whatsoever.

2079
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 4: If they're not generating takeaways, they're borderline dead unless their

2080
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 4: offense is thriving, and I just don't expect that to happen.

2081
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 5: So I'll take the Packers here.

2082
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 4: But you know, it's friendly, friendly here, right, like we're

2083
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 4: it's on opposite sides, but friendly this time.

2084
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 5: That's a good thing, all right.

2085
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,120
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2093
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Speaker 1: Two receivers. I'm in the air, Fernando in the backfield.

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Speaker 5: Here's the stab back looks to the Enzo, looks to

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Speaker 3: He lies to sorrat heaving a night of his life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there is Don Fisher from lear Field. Shout out

2113
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Speaker 4: to him on the call. Right there is IU.

2114
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 5: Wins fifty six to twenty two. My lord.

2115
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 4: Now, now that's a great segue, because I've got something

2116
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 4: to throw out to you. Okay, you tell me if

2117
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,799
Speaker 4: you buy this at all, because I think what's interesting

2118
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 4: is if you compare IU this season to Ohio State

2119
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 4: last season. Okay, and maybe maybe we're in for history

2120
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 4: to repeat itself. Where if you look at EU, they

2121
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 4: are a runaway freight train right now. They are playing

2122
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 4: their best football when it matters most. Like the counter

2123
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 4: to that is, like Jared said earlier, they barely beat

2124
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 4: Penn State. You know, they needed this insane toe tapping

2125
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 4: catch in the back of the end zone to beat

2126
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 4: a pathetic Penn State team. They barely beat Iowa Like

2127
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 4: they're still that same team that they are playing their

2128
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 4: best football when it matters most. They are scorching hot

2129
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 4: right now, bulldozed Alabama crushed Ore again. But if you

2130
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 4: look back to Ohio State last year. You tell me

2131
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 4: if you buy this at all. And I'm not advocating

2132
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 4: for Miami to win the game, but when it's seven

2133
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 4: and a half, does my Miami maybe keep it closer

2134
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 4: than you can see today? Right when the game rolls around.

2135
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 4: If you look at Ohio State, what did they do

2136
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 4: in the playoff? They blew the doors off of Tennessee

2137
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 4: last year, and then they went into the Rose Bowl

2138
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 4: and annihilated Oregon. And then right after that they're in

2139
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 4: this close nip and tuck game against Quinn Eewers and Texas.

2140
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,799
Speaker 4: It's like this one possession if Texas scored, I think.

2141
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 1: They would have tied the score, but.

2142
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 4: Instead it was a fumble and they went the other

2143
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 4: way and history, Yeah, that was history.

2144
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 5: It was a rap.

2145
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 4: And then Ohio State hung on for dear life in

2146
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 4: the title game against Notre Dame and it was a

2147
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 4: closer game. So could that happen here? Do you see

2148
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 4: that happening here with IU? As all world as they've

2149
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,600
Speaker 4: looked in these first two games for them in the playoff,

2150
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 4: could this next game with the real pass rush, a

2151
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 4: real defensive line, could they give IU a little bit

2152
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 4: more problems than you could maybe see this morning after

2153
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 4: what we saw last night.

2154
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Speaker 5: What do you think about that?

2155
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

2156
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know, look, every game is different, and it

2157
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 7: is so hard for us to do this because it's

2158
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 7: so easy to fall into the trap of believing because

2159
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 7: you saw this result this week, that you know, within

2160
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 7: a week or a couple of weeks, we're going to

2161
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Speaker 7: have a different result.

2162
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Speaker 3: And that it's just not the case.

2163
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 7: It's just it's it's just not the case that you're

2164
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 7: gonna have the same result.

2165
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not the case.

2166
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 7: Every team presents different challenges every time you play, you have,

2167
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 7: you have different adversities internally that you have to overcome.

2168
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

2169
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's impossible, but I don't know if

2170
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 7: it is possible to say that Indiana Is can ever

2171
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 7: replicate I mean, I mean maybe in the history of

2172
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 7: the program a beatdown in the postseason to the level

2173
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 7: we witnessed against Oregon. I mean that that was just

2174
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 7: an absolute slober knocker of a win.

2175
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 3: This wasn't you know, one.

2176
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 7: Of these Power four programs going against a group of

2177
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:21,480
Speaker 7: five champ You know, this wasn't two lane old.

2178
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 3: Miss This this this.

2179
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 7: Was a real team. Like, yes, the Oregon Ducks. You

2180
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 7: know they struggled at times during the season. They weren't

2181
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 7: a perfect team, There's no doubt about it. But this

2182
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 7: was a real football team who definitely had some national

2183
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 7: championship of vibes. I mean, let's put it this way.

2184
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 7: Switch around the Grand Game script a little bit. Maybe

2185
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,839
Speaker 7: you don't have as many turnovers for Oregon playing against

2186
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 7: a very tough and talented Indiana defense, but imagine they

2187
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 7: don't have a pick six basically to start the game,

2188
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,839
Speaker 7: and you know, life is different in that world. Couldn't

2189
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:59,440
Speaker 7: you picture a closer game between the Ducks and the Hoosiers?

2190
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 3: I could. Couldn't you picture win for Oregon? Yeah? I could?

2191
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 3: You know. So, in.

2192
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 7: The right way to categorize this is Indiana is not lucky.

2193
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 7: They're they're very talented, and they did exactly what they

2194
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 7: should have done and played mistake three free through that game.

2195
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 7: But that doesn't mean Indiana A cannot make mistakes, and

2196
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 7: they could end up making some critical errors against Miami

2197
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 7: and B.

2198
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean they're perfect.

2199
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 7: They're going to walk into another game as imperfect as

2200
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 7: a lot of college football teams, even the great ones

2201
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 7: are and they're going to have to figure out Miami

2202
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 7: the same way they successfully were able to figure out

2203
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 7: Oregon and fight their ass off against certain teams throughout

2204
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 7: the season and figure them out too.

2205
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 3: A close game against.

2206
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 7: Ohio State, Why can it be a close game of

2207
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 7: against a very talented defense like Ohio State for Miami.

2208
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is going to be a really tight game.

2209
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be.

2210
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 6: Belt to ask and that doesn't mean that Indiana can't

2211
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 6: cover because I think, you know, if they went by ten, it's.

2212
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: Not like, oh my god, blowout all the worst team ever.

2213
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 6: I think there is a certain element of this game

2214
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 6: where Miami's physicality can match. Again, I said this in

2215
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 6: the first hour, and it's not a knock on Oregon.

2216
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 6: I think Oregon is a very good team, but they

2217
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 6: ran into a bully and when Oregon gets bullied, they

2218
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 6: just didn't fight back.

2219
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 1: Miami's gonna fight back.

2220
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 3: Now.

2221
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 6: The thing about Miami that's really scary is they beat

2222
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 6: themselves a lot, and is there going to be this

2223
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 6: you know, brain fart moment for Mario, Crystal Ball and

2224
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 6: the coaching staff where they're just you know, it's like

2225
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 6: the obvious move and they just fudge it, or is

2226
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 6: there gonna be that brain fart penalty fifteen yards and

2227
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 6: a really tough spot. You know, guy, you know loss

2228
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 6: is cool. We saw that happen multiple times for Miami.

2229
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 6: That's the part where I can't predict positive things for

2230
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 6: the Hurricanes. But if we remove all that and we

2231
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,679
Speaker 6: just line these teams up in a vacuum and play ball,

2232
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 6: Miami is the more physical team.

2233
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: I do believe that.

2234
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 6: But what Indiana does and Brian Haynes, their defensive coordinator's

2235
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 6: fantastic at this, And this is why I think Carson

2236
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 6: Beck might be in for a bit of a long game.

2237
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 6: They are so good with their scheme. I think they

2238
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:22,839
Speaker 6: confuse and manipulate quarterbacks better than any defense in college football.

2239
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 6: Like if you were gonna ask Dante More which defensive

2240
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 6: line was better Texas Tech or Indiana, I'd be willing

2241
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 6: to bet he probably says Texas Tech. But when it

2242
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 6: comes to the scheme and how they approach each play

2243
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 6: and how they confuse the quarterback right the games wanted

2244
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage.

2245
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 3: This is why.

2246
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Mendoz is so good.

2247
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 6: He's so smart, Like he just knows how to get

2248
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 6: his team into an out of difficult spots, whereas I'm

2249
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 6: not sure and Carson Beck, listen, really sharp kick, been

2250
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 6: playing college football for seven years. He understands how to

2251
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 6: get into an out of certain situations.

2252
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know if.

2253
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 6: He's phased the defense as discipline as Indiana, where they're

2254
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 6: not gonna show you their hand. They're gonna rotate safeties down,

2255
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 6: they're gonna move those corners, they're gonna move those linebackers.

2256
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 6: They're gonna make it very hard for Carson Beck to

2257
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 6: figure out where the pressure is coming from. Go watch

2258
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 6: the touchdown for ole Miss that they scored late against Miami.

2259
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 6: And here's what I want you to watch when you

2260
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,799
Speaker 6: when you watch this play, I want you to watch

2261
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 6: Trinidad Chambliss pointing to the blitzer for Miami, literally pointing

2262
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 6: to them, and then throwing to the opposite side of

2263
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,639
Speaker 6: the field and hitting that touchdown, which at the time

2264
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 6: you thought Ole Miss was gonna win that game. But

2265
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 6: my point being, that's not something you can do against

2266
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 6: Indiana's defense because they.

2267
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 1: Don't show you their hand.

2268
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:43,640
Speaker 6: They are so good at disguising coverages and manipulating the

2269
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 6: eyes of the quarterback. That's where I think Indiana has

2270
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 6: an edge in this game. Well, hey, well, we'll fully

2271
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 6: break it down next week. You know, we have next

2272
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 6: week's show to really dive into it. I would say

2273
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 6: the last thing right now, Miami secondary really banged up.

2274
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 6: They're gonna miss a starting corner because of a targeting

2275
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 6: penalty to miss him in the first half of the

2276
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 6: National Championship game. Man, Like, that penalty is so punitive.

2277
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 6: We can get into that next week. But something else

2278
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 6: to think about. But yeah, this could be.

2279
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 4: It's like your side mirror, like objects and mirror are

2280
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 4: closer than they appear. Like Miami might be closer than

2281
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 4: it appears today. When this game finally rolls around, we'll

2282
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 4: see how how it unfolds here in about you know,

2283
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 4: nine days from now, we do have two minutes real

2284
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 4: fast and two wild Card weekend things I wanted to

2285
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:31,640
Speaker 4: throw at you.

2286
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 3: One.

2287
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 4: I really like Jacksonville in this matchup against the Bills,

2288
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 4: But I really hate that the world seems to like

2289
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 4: Jacksonville as well. Right, Like, have you guys felt that

2290
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 4: this Have you heard anyone like, oh, Bills, give me

2291
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 4: Josh Allen.

2292
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 1: Give me j world, Like Indiana last night too.

2293
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 4: Though that's true, like sometimes the world is right. I'm

2294
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 4: glad that you said that.

2295
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2296
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 4: And the other thing is, it's just funny to me

2297
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 4: there's been a lot of Steelers love. Seamus came on

2298
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 4: and said, we just need the Texans out right. There's

2299
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 4: all this money on the Steelers to win the game,

2300
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 4: like bet MGM needs the Texans just to win. It's

2301
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 4: funny to me because there's been so much trash talked

2302
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 4: about the Steelers for years now, where it's like, oh, yeah,

2303
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 4: you go nine to eight or ten and seven, and

2304
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 4: then you do nothing in the playoffs, and now here's

2305
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 4: the moment.

2306
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 5: Here's the moment to put that into action.

2307
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 4: They're facing a nasty defense, nasty pass rush, and people

2308
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 4: are just like, I give me the black and gold.

2309
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 4: It's just funny for all that trash that has been

2310
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 4: talked about the Steelers, there's as much of a backing

2311
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 4: for the Steelers in this spot.

2312
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 5: I just find that to be interesting.

2313
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2314
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what's fascinating about the conversation we have

2315
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 7: with Seamus. It sort of changed my mind about this

2316
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 7: postseason picture from this standpoint. You know, he really loves

2317
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 7: the Jags, he says, and I do too, But then

2318
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 7: he talked about a team who I haven't given nearly

2319
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 7: enough credit because after he said it, I went back

2320
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 7: and I looked at their season, and then I looked

2321
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 7: at some of their statistical achievements defensively and frankly offensively

2322
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 7: in some of these games, and then thought about what

2323
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 7: Ryan's has done as a head coach, which Stroud has

2324
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 7: done as a quarterback over their time pair together. Houston's

2325
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 7: a good squad, and they're a group who knows where

2326
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 7: they're at. They've been here before and recently. And the Steelers,

2327
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 7: I mean, let's face it, man, you could argue they

2328
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 7: got very lucky to even get in the dance. I mean,

2329
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 7: this is a world championship defense. In terms of the Texans,

2330
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 7: There's no question about it. You can win a Super

2331
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 7: Bowl with the defense like Damika Ryans has put together

2332
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 7: in Houston, no question about it.

2333
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 3: The Steelers, do we really.

2334
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 7: Look at them as even sniffing a single a single

2335
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 7: part of their team, does it make you feel like, oh,

2336
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 7: Steelers are gonna win a Super Bowl this year?

2337
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 3: The answer is absolutely lutely not so.

2338
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 7: The Texans going on the road to face this opponent

2339
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 7: in the postseason, with recent experience and consistency at quarterback,

2340
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 7: and all the things we know about their defense, who

2341
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 7: do I like?

2342
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, it's the picture has gotten way

2343
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 3: more clear. It's uston all the way.

2344
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 6: If defense wins championships, then Houston has to be considered

2345
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 6: has to be. They have the best defense in the sport. First,

2346
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 6: and EPA per play, right, if you're with us in

2347
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 6: our first hour or early this hour, should say I

2348
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 6: was explaining why EPA to me is the metric that

2349
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 6: I use to really grade these teams. Houston's got the

2350
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 6: best defense in the sport period, end of story. The

2351
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 6: Steelers defense is very opportunistic, and that's where I think

2352
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 6: maybe they can make a couple plays on CJ. Stroud,

2353
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 6: the one knock on Stroud, Brian right. The offensive line's

2354
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 6: not great, take some sacks, maybe some you know, pressure

2355
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 6: eye situations where he makes some throws that are turnover

2356
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 6: worthy throws.

2357
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: That's the only.

2358
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 6: Path I see for Pittsburgh here, DK metcalf returns, You're

2359
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 6: able to get some kind of vertical passing game.

2360
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: Even though I would lean on the.

2361
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 6: Unders for a lot of the Steelers receivers and pass

2362
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 6: catchers and running backs, but really it's it's ken Pittsburgh's

2363
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 6: defense do anything. I tweeted this out like three months ago.

2364
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 6: I said the Steelers are not going to miss the

2365
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 6: playoffs because of Aaron Rodgers. The reason that they're going

2366
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 6: to miss the playoffs, and I was wrong on that technically,

2367
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 6: but it took a crazy field goal miss for that

2368
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 6: to happen is the fact that their defense is a

2369
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 6: tom Bottom ten unit under Mike Tomlin.

2370
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 1: Like, that's just crazy to me.

2371
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is wild is to take five seconds. The

2372
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 4: stat that blew me away. We all know about the

2373
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 4: Texans pass rush and what they can do Will Anderson junior,

2374
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 4: daneil Hunter forty seven sacks defensively this season. Pittsburgh forty

2375
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 4: eight sacks. I was like, yeah, what, yeah, whoa, Okay,

2376
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 4: that's that threw me for a loop. But I still

2377
01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 4: see Houston in this game. We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn

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Speaker 4: State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian

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Speaker 4: No Coming up next, Rapid Fire. We each have a

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Speaker 4: bushel of picks for you. We will share them with you.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: get off the air. Shout out to the crew. Our

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Speaker 4: girl Brianna hanging out with us today. Huh drinking black coffee.

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Speaker 4: She switched no more cream this year. A very good

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Speaker 4: She was fantastic, always good hanging out with her. Our

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Speaker 4: technical producer, extraordinary, Chris Purfett, always good.

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Speaker 5: Hang we're talking lions in the break, you know, breaking

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Speaker 5: it on down.

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Speaker 4: good stuff. Top of the hour, up on Game LaVar

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Speaker 4: Arrington TJ Hushman, Zada, Plexico burst. They have got you

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Speaker 4: covered in eight American minutes from now. Keep it locked

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Speaker 4: right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we got

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Speaker 4: some picks to make.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'll tell you what you think.

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Speaker 4: The Indiana Hoosiers are on fire right now, and they are.

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Speaker 5: How about us? How about us?

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Speaker 4: A combined nine to oh perfect rapid fire.

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Speaker 5: Last week from us? Let's go. We start with you, Jared.

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Speaker 5: Let's keep the hot streak going.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, man.

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Speaker 6: I was ice cold to start the year, and now

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Speaker 6: I'm red hot down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: That's when you want to get hot, right.

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Speaker 6: I've got two props in a side all tomorrow, so

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Speaker 6: you got plenty of time to get these in. Let's

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Speaker 6: start with the side. I am going to back the

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Speaker 6: Chargers plus three and a half. I am fading the

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Speaker 6: rookie debut quarterback Drake May who's been fantastic this year.

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Speaker 6: But I've been saying that the Patriots have been fools

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Speaker 6: gold all year, and I'm saying they're the fools gold

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Speaker 6: in this game. So I think charge plus three and

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Speaker 6: a half. Two props. Trevor Lawrence over twenty four and

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Speaker 6: a half rushing yards. I think this game is gonna

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Speaker 6: be really fun between the Bills with jacks back and forth,

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Speaker 6: back and forth, and the quarterback rushing props are more

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Speaker 6: of a thing in the postseason. Lawrence is a very

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Speaker 6: favorable number for him. He's gone over this in a

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Speaker 6: bunch of games this year. Lawrence over twenty four and

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Speaker 6: a half rushing yards. I think the Bill's defense a

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Speaker 6: little bit bigheisy. And here's a guy that's probably you're

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Speaker 6: not gonna hear a lot of this week. Brandon Cooks,

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Speaker 6: Bill's receiver over twenty one and a half receiving yards.

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Speaker 6: This is a guy that they brought in from New Orleans.

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Speaker 6: He's got a lot of experience. He had a hundie

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Speaker 6: against the Eagles a couple of weeks ago. Finally starting

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Speaker 6: to get involved in the offense. I think he is

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Speaker 6: an X factor in the game for Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 7: I picked sides based on whether or not I could

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Speaker 7: see this team in the Super Bowl, or if they're

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Speaker 7: playing a team that can't be all right, So the

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles, I'm taking the minus six and a half

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Speaker 7: or excuse me, minus six against the same Fancisco forty

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Speaker 7: nine ers. Can't see the Niners making it, can see

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Speaker 7: the Eagles, New England Patriots. I'm going against Jared. I

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Speaker 7: got the Pats minus three and a half in New England.

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Speaker 7: I think they beat the cheese out of the Chargers.

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Speaker 7: And that's kind of like the Orenburger Bowl. I started

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Speaker 7: my career with the Pats, ended my career with the Chargers,

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Speaker 7: and then the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: I like Houston.

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Speaker 7: I like their defense minus three on the road against Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 8: Wall.

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Speaker 5: You played for the Texans too.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, give me the Texans in the first quarter. Give

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Speaker 4: me the money line. It's minus a dollar forty. You

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Speaker 4: might want to look to minus half point. It's plus money.

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Speaker 4: How about this, Pittsburgh last six playoff games.

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Speaker 5: Outscored seventy three to nothing in the first quarter. Again

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Speaker 5: the Texans and two unders.

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Speaker 4: Give me the Bills, Jags under fifty one and a half.

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Speaker 4: Give me the Texans Steelers under thirty eight and a half.

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Speaker 5: That's going to be a knocker. Of the slabber variety