1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Are we still not judge for how much we can 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: output physically, the basketball player, the football player, the Olympic 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: track star. You're only worth as much as you can 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: be used by the power structure. The only difference between 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: a slave of two hundred years ago and the slave 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: of today is the slave of today is well compensated, 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: but he has no more power than his ancestor had 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: on the plantation two hundred. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Years So black people's money doesn't have power. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: No, Ricky Smiley and Steve Harvey, y'all only carried on 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: case y'all got paid to carry on. He may not 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: have taken no money, but that white platform on they damn. 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: Sure getting paid for kam Lardray. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: You can't offer Steve Harvey ten thousand to do nothing. 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Do you think that politicians have to give us anything 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: outside of promises to get us to vote for them. 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: Because when a young black boy gets out of the 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: f d MG school, he's not guaranteed employment either. 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: Yes he is through us. 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Our graduates will get small business loans from the school itself. 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna set them up now. If they want to 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: go to college, we will support that. I'm not saying 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: no child should go to college. You're gonna give every 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: kid a small business. 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: That's our plan. How do you plan on getting that done? 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: We have a plan for that. We got a nice plan. 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Ye see, I got that die. It ain't it ain't. 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: It's if I gains. 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: No way for you to know whether or not I'm 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: going to deliver until they graduate in eight years. And 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: that's you already know whether Kamma are going to deliver 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: because she's been VP for four. 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: And it ain't gating you. 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Esh, that's true. 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: But if she's making promises on the campaign trail, you 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: also have no way to know if she's gonna deliver 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: until she's elected. 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: You are absolutely right, So what promise does she make 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: the black people so far on the campaign trail? When 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: Oprah sat here with all the white women you made 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: rich on that damn shelf, with all the doctor phils 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: and others who you promoted to national prominence, you couldn't 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: even give them enough money to fix up the station. 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: Oprah is the richest woman in the history of the 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: North American continent. God forbid if she go back to 46 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: her ancestors, and we hope that's no time soon, but 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: God forbid that woman go back to our ancestors haven't 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: done nothing significant for her race? Though, it don't make 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: sense because the entertainers are more controlled by the white 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: power structure that you and I could ever be. Look 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: at what they make, Look how much they make, and 52 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: more important, look who they make it from. I lie 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: to you, not brother, and I say it to the 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: audience here in my Nashville family. If I had the 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: power to strip every black male and female student athlete 56 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: of their god given skill, I would do it right 57 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: now because the money that they're making with their God 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: given and ancestral given talents are not benefiting us. Look 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: at all the snow bunnies who are getting rich off 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: these black men going to the league, so we don't benefit. 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: How has the NBA benefited Black America? How has the 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: NFL benefited Black America? How has hip hop culture we're 63 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: gonna get to them fitted Black America? It has not. 64 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: So if I were in charge, there would be a 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: moratorium on gangster rap. 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: There would be a moratorialm when an. 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: NFL, NBA and Olympics, ain't nobody playing until we get 68 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: our business back together. 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: I don't I don't think that. 70 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a small move though, But you'll 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: do what you have to do not to lose your money. 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Right, My money belonged to the people. I don't care 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: about no damn money me with that. Oh, I'm telling 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: you the truth. They can't control me with no money. 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: They already not control you with money. 76 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: But you're doing things not to lose the money the 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: same way lebron is. 78 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: You're not just so. So you're telling me. 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: That you're just wide open reckless. 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 4: You don't care about the money. 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say reckless, I would say revolutionary. 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: Do you think Oprah's done nothing? 83 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: Give me, give me something something significant. I mean, scholarships 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: don't count. Scholarship, bro, tell me about something. 85 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: Oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Hold on, hey, listen, we are recorded, so y'all please, man, 87 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: I know I told y'all. 88 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: To be involved, but we are recorded. 89 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: Like, listen, So, so, Oprah, you're telling me that Oprah 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: has done nothing and scholarships mean nothing. 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: While you're working on a school. 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: Okay, let me understand. 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We're doing beautiful as it pertains to 123 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: this content world, and we're gonna have a great conversation 124 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: Doctor Lumar Johnson. 125 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Can we get a quick update. 126 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: On the school. Let's we salute get into this conversation today. 127 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglass Marcus Scarvey Academy. When I get back home 128 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia Monday, it looks like we're finally going to 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: get the steps power washed for the first time since 130 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: we've owned the school, so I'm looking forward to that. 131 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: I may also have a brother who's going to lay 132 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: down the floor in the school. Really, right now, we 133 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: are at the stage of cosmetic surgery, and what I 134 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: mean by that is we got another layer of paint 135 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: for the walls. We have to cover up some of 136 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: the floor. Some will be tile, some will be carpet, 137 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: and really that's it. We got about four doors. We 138 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: got to switch out four doors. So I'm waiting on 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: the invoice from the door company, but floor indoors and 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: it's only a few internal doors, and be ready to 141 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: apply for our certificate occupancy. So we are really really 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: at the finish line. But we got to dot every 143 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: R and cross every T. I was told that the 144 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: school need to be absolutely one hundred percent moved in ready, 145 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: so I want to make sure everything's done, And to 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: be honest with you, bro, we probably got a week 147 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: worth of work left, but it's probably going to take 148 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: us longer than the week because you got to get 149 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: the right person. 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: But I would be shocked. 151 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if we're not applying for our 152 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: certificate of occupancy before the end of the year. 153 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: Beautiful, do you. 154 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: See yourself opening? What is the time frame from applying 155 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: for the certificate to open in the actual school? 156 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: The question is how long does license and inspection take 157 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: to get out there and actually do their job. I 158 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: was told that it can take months, but I ran 159 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: into an inspector the other day he told me it 160 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: could be in a couple of days. So you know, 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: I guess the truth is somewhere in between that. Assuming 162 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: we don't get hit with nothing, that's the biggest issue. 163 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Will we get hit if we don't get hit with anything. 164 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a grand opening celebration without donors in 165 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: black history, mind, you know what I mean, give us 166 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: January to prepare and roll it out. 167 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: We might do. 168 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: We might do what is black history on twenty eight days. 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: We might do twenty eight events in twenty eight days. 170 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: Because the other thing too loom. We got to test 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: the school to make sure everything that was fixed is working. 172 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: If y'all know what I mean, Let's flush these tallets, 173 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: let's use these things, you know, let's play with this heat, 174 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: let's play with this ac because you want to make 175 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: sure the school is workable before the children get in 176 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: there exactly, and we don't plan on bringing the children 177 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: till August. So we'll have about nine months to make 178 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: sure everything we paid for is in work in order. 179 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: Because mind you, everything's fixed, but we haven't used anything 180 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: because nobody's coming in there yet, you follow me, So 181 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: we need to, you know what I mean, shake some 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: dolls and tap on some window, you know what I mean, 183 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: and make sure everything we paid for is working. And 184 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: so we'll have nine months to do that. 185 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: That's a beautiful thing. 186 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: And you know that's an actual real thing, because you 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: can even have a home and not use the bathroom 188 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: that's on the other side of the house and the 189 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: pipe bust y'all a sudd We're like, oh, I ain't 190 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: even use this. Yes, that's definitely a beautiful thing. Do 191 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: you foresee that the government or the state will try 192 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: to give you some arrested development and getting into the. 193 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: I anticipate that my YouTube being struggle streaming as haters 194 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: are gonna lay some traps. The government, They're gonna lay 195 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: a few traps, but I think they depend on the 196 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: YouTube being struggle streamers to feed them. I think they 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: want them to feed them because that's what they normally do. 198 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: They feed them what they think I'm doing wrong, and 199 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: then the government kind of follows up with them. So 200 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: we're probably gonna get some stuff, you know. I anticipate, 201 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, some LGBT, some white, some 202 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's going to be, whether it 203 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: with the applications, whether it's gonna be with uh. 204 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: Applications for work, for staff, for students. 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: Anticipate them nonsine, right, Yeah, but you know what I 206 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: told people when they asked me whether or not. You know, 207 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: LGBT students will be. 208 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: Allowed in the school. 209 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: From where I stand, with my background in psychology, I 210 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: don't really see our children as LGBT. 211 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: I see them as being confused. 212 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: So all I have to do is educate the boys 213 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: as boys and educate the girls as girls, and everything 214 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: else will work itself out. 215 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: So will they be allowed. Sure, they will be allowed 216 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: because I don't see them as LGBT. That maybe how 217 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: they see themselves. But I believe we can correct any 218 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: of the indoctrination, any of the nonsense that has been 219 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: put into the minds of our children, because I believe 220 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: that when the Creator gave birth to African people as 221 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: the first people, you know, as the chosen people, we 222 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: are designed to lean towards the truth. 223 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: We don't always lean towards the truth, but we're designed 224 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: to lead towards the truth. 225 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: And with our children. 226 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Being the most innocent and most inexperienced sector of our community, 227 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: once we give them that raw, all unapologetically African centered culture, 228 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: that raw spiritual culture, that raw history, that raw Pan Africanism, 229 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: he ain't gonna want to be nothing other than a 230 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: boy and the young ladies. When we open up the 231 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Girls Academy. They're not gonna want to be anything other 232 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: than some beautiful young women. 233 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: That's some beautiful thing she needs to fix. 234 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: Your sure, come on that point. 235 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: I'm sorry about this, you guys. 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: You know we gotta make sure the audio is always 237 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: top tier. 238 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: That gonna help you out there. You can stay a 239 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: little longer though you kind of curve. 240 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: Shut up. 241 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: Five five. 242 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: We know what you like too. Don't act like you 243 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: know a lot of time you like to run from 244 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: like man, you. 245 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: Know, let's talk about that first of all. 246 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: What's up? 247 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: You know last year I. 248 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: Had you here and I talked to you about beloved Sukiyana. 249 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: Yes, and we had a communication. 250 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: You say, you know, you know I meet. 251 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: People where they are. 252 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm a man myself. 253 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: Your interaction with Suki Yanna, it lends me some information 254 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: that I want to try to ask you to clarify. 255 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you are attracted to when it 256 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: comes to the beautiful Sukianna. 257 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what attracts me to Sukihanna. She is 258 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: a completely different woman off the television set. When we 259 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: had dinner, that conversation was so pure, so innocent, so honest. 260 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: I almost forgot who I was having dinner with. So 261 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: what she does on television, although I don't condone it, 262 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: it's a persona behind all of that is a beautiful woman. 263 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: And I hope before it's too late that she turns 264 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: the corner, because she has a lot to offer our 265 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: community if she can come back over to this side, 266 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's my hope. I wanted to come back 267 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: over to this side. What does too late look like, 268 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. But what I do know is in 269 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: the world of entertainment, when you start to get on 270 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: the other side of forty, right, that's your golden years 271 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: in entertainment. 272 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: Black don't crack, as you know. 273 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: But when our sisters good on the other side of forty, 274 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: when they're in the show business industry, that's when the 275 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: views and everything can begin to slow down, you know. 276 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: And I want her to make that shift before she 277 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: gets there. She got some time before she gets there, 278 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: but I want her to make the shift while she's 279 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: still on top, still commanding an audience. Do right, while 280 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: you're still under the light. Do you think that. 281 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: Some of your audiences, I believe, is not as open 282 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: minded to that subject as you. 283 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: I agree very judgment right. In fact, the Black consciousness 284 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: community might be more judgmental than the Christian Church. The 285 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: Black conscious community might be more judgmental than the Islamic 286 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: mash Gen. They might be more judgmental than some of 287 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: our Hebrew Israelite brothers. We're very judgmental and we're quick 288 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: to condemn in Black consciousness, which I think is one 289 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: of the misgivings of the culture because despite all the 290 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: knowledge and information we've given people on the flip side, 291 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: we're very quick to judge by appearances. So for example, 292 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I want all Black women natural, right, and one day 293 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: every in here who not naturally gonna be natural. Okay, 294 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: But I'm still gonna accept my sisters who not natural. 295 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,479 Speaker 1: They not gonna get judged, They not gonna feel uncomfortable. 296 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna run them out the room, because I 297 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: know there's no compulsion in consciousness. People come to consciousness 298 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: on their own terms. You cannot force it. I've had 299 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: sisters who I never thought would go natural bro who 300 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: show up to me one day at an event and say, 301 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: doctor Umar, look, brothers who I never thought would stop 302 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: bunny hopping, and they show up one day, and they'll 303 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: show up one day with a black woman. Proud look, Doc, 304 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: I finally did. I'm like, I gave up on that brother. 305 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was done. He shows up six years 306 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: later with a beautiful, dark skin chocolate queen. Right. So 307 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: I had to learn that we can't expect people to 308 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: change when we want them to change, let them come 309 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: in their own term. Look at el haij Maley Kelshiabaz 310 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: Malcolm X. He was raised in a Garvey family. His 311 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: father was a leader of the Garvey movement. In fact, 312 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: it was Malcolm's father who put pressure on President Calvin 313 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: Coolidge to exonerate Marcus Garvey. Malcolm's father did that, but 314 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: after the father passed and the mother was institutionalized, Malcolm 315 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: went wayward for a long time. 316 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: But did he end up back to consciousness. 317 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Yes, in the last year of his life he ended 318 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: right back with Garvey's Pan Africanism. You got to give 319 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: people time to make the mistakes that karma requires in 320 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: order for us to learn from our experiences. 321 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, that's a beautiful that's a beautiful thing. I 322 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: want to ask you about Steve Harvey. Yes, sir, uncle Steve, 323 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: there was after the Democratic National Convention. I believe he 324 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: came out in support of Kamala Harris. Yes, you pushed 325 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: back and said that you received a phone call or 326 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: some sort of message communication that they were willing to 327 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: give you some money to endorse Kamala. 328 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: Not to endorse, but to interview interview. 329 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And so did you verify because as posted 330 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: it after that, they denied it. 331 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: Well, no one from Kamala Harris's camp denied it. 332 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: They didn't Lord Charlemagne Breakfast Club. I thought they said 333 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: that no one reached out. No, okay, no. 334 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: And the reason they can't because when you look at 335 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: the DNC and the RNC, they're so large. Yes, they 336 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: have offices, you understand, So that means you got to 337 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: check with every office to see if nobody reached out 338 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: the doctor Umar, To be honest with you, I thought 339 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: it was. 340 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: A normal thing. I'm an influencer. 341 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: He has the voice of young Black America, throwing fifteen 342 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: grand for the interview. But me being a political scientist, 343 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: I know that money was to soften the questions. I 344 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: know that money was to kind of show her in 345 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: a good light. And what I told them was, we 346 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: can do it, but it must be live. It cannot 347 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: be edited and it must be direct to the people. 348 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: They did hit me back a second or third time, 349 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: but then they kind of fell off after I made 350 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: those demands. 351 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: I believe it was legitimate. 352 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: Do you have did you have a point of contact 353 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: or yeah, the phone's still on my phone? 354 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeow, yeah it's still So you not posted it because 355 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: I wanted people to see, because you know me, anytime 356 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: I get anything underhand, I exposed it, just like people 357 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: from Who's the the Kennedy brother who's running as an independent, Robert. 358 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: His team reached out a couple times. 359 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: They reached out his last campaign, they reached out this campaign, 360 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: and he decided to endorse Trump. And I was kind 361 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: of disappointed because you came to me seeking support and 362 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: then you end up on Trump team. So you really 363 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: wasn't about what you claim to have been. That's why 364 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: the Honible Marcus Garvey he never allowed us to endorse politicians. 365 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: You feel me, we do the way either way, good 366 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: or bad, black or white, we do not endorse politicians. 367 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: And the reason why brother Loon. 368 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: If Loon is running for mayor of Nashville, doctor Umar 369 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: publicly endorses lom Loon ends up selling out the people 370 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: the damning of his reputation is automatically the damning of 371 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: my reputation. The quickest way for me to destroy the 372 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: respect and trust I have from our people is to 373 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: publicly support a candidate that the community does not finance. 374 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: Now, Steve Harvey response says, you can't pay Steve Harvey 375 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars to do nothing. Right, He vehemently denied 376 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: that he was offered money. Now, his endorsement, he says, 377 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: is pure. His questions, he said, will be softball, but 378 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: he didn't say he was paid for that. 379 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think that. 380 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: Politicians have to give us anything outside of promises to 381 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: get us to vote for them, because okay. 382 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: In fact, they don't even have to give us promises. 383 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Because when it's the last presidential when who was the 384 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: last presidential candidate that promised black people anything? Black people 385 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: vote because we are shamed into voting. There's something called 386 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: ancestral shaming. You know what ancestral streaming is. If you 387 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: don't vote, you turning your back on Fanny lou Haima. 388 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: If you don't vote, you turning your back on Correta 389 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: Scott King. If you don't vote, you turning your back 390 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: on Mega evers. 391 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: If you don't. 392 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: Vote, you turning your back on doctor King and all 393 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: them ancestors who struggled and died and went to jail. No, Ninja, 394 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: We're not turning our back on our ancestors. 395 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: We're turning our back on a. 396 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: Party that has consistently and repeatedly ignored the issues that 397 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: affect black people. They do a lot of ancestral shaming. 398 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: But what they don't tell you is how the Democratic 399 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: Party undermined Fanny Lou Haima at the nineteen sixty eight convention. 400 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: What they don't tell you is how President Linda Baines 401 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: Johnson tapped the phones in the hotel where all the 402 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party members who can ain't with Fannylou 403 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: at Atlantic City where they stayed, that he had the 404 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: FBI spying on them so they can know everything that 405 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: they were strategizing, so they can undermine them. Nobody tells 406 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: you how the Democratic Party treated Fanny Lou. They kept 407 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: mentioning her name at the DNC as if they upheld 408 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: her in her day. 409 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: No, they didn't. 410 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: They treated that woman like she was less than dirt, 411 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: and they got the nerve to use that ancestors name 412 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: to try to make it look like the Democratic Party 413 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: is the party of blacks. Here's my thing to Uncle Steve. 414 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: And I like Steve Harvey. E bougie, coolish, but I 415 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: like him. Okay, when Steve said he wasn't paid, I 416 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: believe him. But you know what, he didn't say that 417 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: his network did not receive compensation. You're not gonna tell 418 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: me that the Steve Harvey Show, or the D. L. 419 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: Hugley Show, or the Ricky Smiley Show sits on a 420 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: white platform. And these white folks who are all about money, 421 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: knowing Kamala raised thirty million in one night us with 422 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: black folks, and you're going to sit up here and 423 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: endorse this woman freely all through your show. And you 424 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: think though white folks ain't calling her campaign office saying 425 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: y'all owe us some money. He may not have taken 426 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: no money, but that white platform. Me on, they damn 427 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: sure getting paid for Kamala. 428 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: Harrison, right. 429 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: And you know I like Steve as well. You know 430 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: I've been around him a few times, had conversations with him. 431 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: But there is a historical context, you know what I'm 432 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: saying that we have to examine when it comes to Democrats, 433 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: any of them and our people. But I also think 434 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: that when Steve Harvey, because you got to remember twenty seventeen, 435 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: he went in Holladay Trump, Yes he did, and I 436 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: think we gave him a lot of backlash about that. 437 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: And we shouldn't have Yeah, because you should meet with 438 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: both sides because neither are your friend. See when black 439 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: people in DL Hugley in particular, shamed Steve Harvey for 440 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: meeting for Trump in seventeen, I took issue with that. 441 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: I said, you're supposed to meet with both parties and 442 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: see what you're going to get. But black people have 443 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: this loving relationship with the Democratic Party. You're so in 444 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: love with this side who's never done nothing for you, 445 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: that you won't even have a conversation with the other side. 446 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: Who else does that? 447 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: What other ethnic group in America is married to one 448 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: party or the other? Are there Asians married to one 449 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: party or the other? Are the Latinos married to one 450 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: party or the other? Are the a Rabs married to 451 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: one party or the other? Absolutely not? So why should 452 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: black people be married to one party. 453 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: Or the other. 454 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: And mind you, we've been voting Democrat, y'all for eighty 455 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: eight years consistently, Not no thirty some people say for 456 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: the last thirty. No, this goes back to the nineteen 457 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: thirty six election Franklin Delano Roosevelt. In fact, even though 458 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: Roosevelt lost the nineteen thirty two election, that was the 459 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: first big shift we saw of black people away from 460 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: the Republican Party towards the Democratic Party. That was the 461 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: election of thirty two. That was the election of thirty two. 462 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: But in thirty six, that's when black folks have consistently 463 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: and continuously switched from Republican to Democrat. So this is 464 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: an eighty eight year phenomenon. You understand me, almost a century? 465 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: What have we gotten for being so loyal for one party? 466 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: And let us be clear, the Democrats in the Republicans 467 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: have the same vision for Black America extermination. The only 468 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: thing they differ on is strategy and tactic. I need 469 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: us to understand that strategy and tactic, the vision is 470 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: the same. The only thing they differ on how do we. 471 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: Get I mean, what should we ask for people like 472 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: Steve Harvey? What should they be getting for Kamala Harris endorsement? 473 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: Honestly, because most of our celebrities are controlled in finance 474 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: through the white power structure. The best thing they could 475 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: probably do for me is shut up and sit down. 476 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: I don't want them as spokespersons. You're not not How 477 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: was your bold enough to represent us? You're not loyal 478 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: and passionate enough to articulate our concession. 479 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: But don't we need them to activate voters? I mean, 480 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: don't we need involvement in the political process. 481 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Look at all the grassroots activists we have in Tennessee, 482 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: from Memphis, the Chattanooga to Nashville. Why would you need 483 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: a celebrity from now? Why would you need Eddie George 484 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: hypothetically hit a coach of TSU who I respect. 485 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm just using them as an example. 486 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: Why would you need Eddie George to be the voice 487 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: of black people in Tennessee where you have all these 488 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: grassroots activists? You know why you would want a celebrity 489 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: because if I use a grassroots activist who has nothing 490 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: to lose, they're going to tell nothing but the truth. 491 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: I don't want that conversation because I don't plan to 492 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: do nothing for black people. So when I want to 493 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: hear about the black reality, I want someone who's so comfortable, 494 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: so well paid, so well placed, so well celebrated, that 495 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: he wouldn't dare say the wrong thing because he can't 496 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: afford to lose his status. The reason the celebrities are 497 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: the new black bourgeois is we no longer have college 498 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: educated bourgeoise who we lean on. There's no more Andrew Young's, 499 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: there's no more Tavis Smiley's. Cornell West don't have the 500 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: same shine anymore. So with the twenty first century loan 501 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: with the turn of the century, y two K that 502 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: switched the black bourgeois from being your black professionals, your 503 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: n DOUBACP presidents, your fraternity and sorority leaders that went 504 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: to the wayside. Why because black youth don't listen to 505 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: them the way their parents did. Nobody thirty years old 506 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: gives a damn about what Cornell West thinks or the 507 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: president of the NAACP thinks. And I love Cornell West, 508 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. He is a sand bunny hopper, 509 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: but that's another time, okay. But nonetheless they don't care. 510 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: So we want to control the youth. We got to 511 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: control them through the people they listen to. But I 512 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: think that makes sense, though it don't make sense because 513 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: the entertainers are more controlled by the white power structure 514 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: that you and I could ever be. Look at what 515 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: they make, Look how much they make, and more important, 516 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: look who they make it from. When I saw Lebron 517 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: James go public when Israel invaded Gaza and Lebron James 518 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: issue the statement and he said that I stand with Israel. Now, 519 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be an activist, Lebron James, and I 520 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: respect you him and Bronnie. I love seeing them on 521 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: the court together. I love that father son situation as 522 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: long as I don't catch Bronni bunny hop it. But nonetheless, Lebron, 523 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: how can you, as a black man, with all we've 524 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: been through, all we've been through, how could you dare 525 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: go public and stand with Israel in their genocide against 526 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: the policy a people. Lebron James was wrong for that, 527 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: but he had no choice because his dealings with that 528 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: community financially dictated that he's staying with Israel. 529 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: Man, that's you believe that, I know it. 530 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: So you think you think that Lebron is controlled all 531 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: of them? 532 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: Who ain't? 533 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: The question ain't who is? The question is who isn't controlled? 534 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: Do you think there's enough that you get enough money, power, 535 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: well finances, or resources to to break free. 536 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: Who do you think made Lebron James a billionaire last year? 537 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: Thank you? The untouchables be untouched? 538 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but we're gonna get to dinny yah. Hold on, 539 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to dinner. 540 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: But so so, but so you think that there's no 541 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: way to break. 542 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: Free if you're willing to lose everything that you got. 543 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: So you saying that you can't keep your power in 544 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: your money and be free. 545 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: Not if you made it through them. Lebron didn't become 546 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: a billionaire through the Nigro leagues, you understand. He became 547 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: a billionaire through the NBA, who has what the largest percentage. 548 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: Of untouchables as team owners. 549 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: They own the NBA, and therefore they own him. 550 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, Doc, I don't know. 551 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: This is the reality we're living in. 552 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: Brother. 553 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: It is not the hard argument. 554 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: Listen, listen. Under slavery, the black man was a commodity 555 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: to be owned and traded. So while we're value, let 556 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: me finish there. Our value was contingent on how much 557 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: we could physically produce for the plantation. When you look 558 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: at the NFL, when you look at the NBA, when 559 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: you look at our Olympic athletes, I'll ask you the question, 560 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: has there been any chance or modification in the way 561 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: the power structure judges the value of a black man's life? 562 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: Are we still not judge for how much we can 563 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: output physically? The basketball player, the football player, the Olympic 564 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: track star. You're only worth as much as you can 565 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: be used by the power structure. The only difference between 566 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: a slave of two hundred years ago and the slave 567 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: of today is the slave of today is well compensated, 568 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: but he has no more power than his ancestor had 569 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: on the plantation two hundred years. 570 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: So black people's money doesn't have power. 571 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: No, it can be converted into power, but no celebrity 572 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: is going to risk doing that. 573 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: See here's the thing. 574 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: When you hear about a celebrity getting an endorsement deal 575 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: from a Caucasian company, that endorsement deal is a slave shackle. 576 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: It binds your mouth shut to the things that matter 577 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: to your people. When you hear these rappers, I got 578 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: an endorsement deal over here and endorsement deal over here. 579 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: That's why I respect Jalen Brown of the Boston Celtics. 580 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: He wouldn't take it he came out with his own sneaker. 581 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I believe Kyrie now has his own sneaker. Nike cut him, 582 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: he said, don't come back to me after the drama. 583 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Keep the same energy. I'm going to go in this 584 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: direction because the more you represent brands that are not 585 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: sensitive to the black agenda is the further away you 586 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: are from being loyal to the community. 587 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: So what is the money for. 588 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: Are you free? 589 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: Yes, because I have no attachments at all to the 590 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: white power structure, brown power structure, yellow power structure, red 591 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: power structure, gave power structure. 592 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: I'm completely free. 593 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: When your school gets open, it has attachment to the government. 594 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: No, sir, because we don't have the file up. 595 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: But you have to file to even be operating through 596 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: the state, correct. 597 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: So you have to stay in compliance legally. That's not 598 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: the same as being provided. 599 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: For Nah nah, I'm not telling let me handle this please, 600 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: surely not being but right. But what I'm saying, though, 601 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: is is that you still have to operate in that 602 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: system that you're saying black people can't. 603 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: Because we live in the country. It's no getting out. 604 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Of that following right here we go now, but here 605 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: you go following rules. Loom is it the same as 606 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: being subsidized by Yeah? 607 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: But but but getting money through that power structure comes 608 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: with rules that you must follow. 609 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: I'm not getting no money through the power, but. 610 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: You're still following rules. 611 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: So ifn right, So if Lebron's following rules, you're following. 612 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Ron is financed right by Caucasian. 613 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 2: So that's why he's following rules. Yeah, I'm dealing with 614 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: the action. Both of you guys are following rules, okay 615 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: in this In this scenario absolutely. 616 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: The difference is I'm following procedural guidelines in order to 617 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: operate legally, the same as anybody else in the societ. 618 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: Lebron James has been financed at a level greater than 619 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: most people in the society. Therefore, his freedom of action 620 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: is restricted. Subsidy is not the same as obedience to law. 621 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: He subsidized. 622 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know if that suspends it, because 623 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: it's completely different. 624 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: Doing what you gotta do so you don't go to 625 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: jail is completely different from doing what you gotta do 626 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: so you don't lose your money. 627 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: But you'll do what you have to do not to 628 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: lose your money. Right, my money belonged to the people. 629 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: I don't care about No, Damney, don't hit me with 630 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: that shit again. 631 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 3: Umar, No, I'm. 632 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: Telling you the truth. They can't control me with no money. 633 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 4: They already not control you with money. 634 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: But you're doing things not to lose the money the 635 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: same way lebron is. Just so you're telling me that 636 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: you're just wide open reckless, you don't care about the money. 637 00:34:54,080 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say reckless, I would say revolutionary. Well, that 638 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: makes sense, but I still don't believe. 639 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm wondering what does that say to the 640 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 2: young black boy like that wants to utilize the NBA 641 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: or utilize some of those systems to gain financial freedom and. 642 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: Try to break free. 643 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: You're basically telling the young black boy that there's no 644 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: way to break free. 645 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: I lie to you, not, brother, and I say it 646 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: to the audience here in my Nashville family. If I 647 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: had the power to strip every black male and female 648 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: student athlete of their God given skill, I would do 649 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: it right now because the money that they're making with 650 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: their God given and ancestral given talents are not benefiting us. 651 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Look at all the snow bunnies who are getting rich 652 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: off these black men going to the league. So we 653 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: don't benefit. How has the NBA benefited Black America? How 654 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: has the NFL benefited Black America? How has hip hop culture? 655 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the infitted Black America up. It 656 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: has not. So if I were in charge, there would 657 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: be a moratorium on gangster rap. There would be a 658 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: moratorial when an NFL, NBA and Olympics. Ain't nobody playing 659 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: shit until we get our business back together. I don't. 660 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that. 661 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a small move though, I just 662 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: to strip every black boy of that. 663 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: God, do you know? 664 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: Do you know what people are gaining by going to 665 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: certain Ivy League colleges with scholarships and then getting. 666 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: Hurt before they get to the league. 667 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: You're giving me individualism. We're talking about group. 668 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: Probably enough enough single people will make a group, though 669 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 2: uh huh. 670 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: They will make a group of talented tip bourgeois elitist ninjas. 671 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: We don't want that. 672 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: We want a progressive Black community. And you don't judge 673 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: the condition of a people by ten nigros at the 674 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 1: top who take orders from Caucasians. 675 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: It's people with more money than you, bougie. 676 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: Do you think that because I know you want who 677 00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: wasn't Attorney O. J. Simpson's atten Ernie Johnny Cochran was 678 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: a man of financial means who was loyal to his people. 679 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: And you've had others throughout time. You understand, but you 680 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: don't have it. 681 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 2: But when you throw around bourgeois and all this here, 682 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: I need to not criteria. 683 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm not speaking purely of income. I'm talking about income 684 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: and consciousness. I make this money and I do not 685 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,959 Speaker 1: consider myself loyal to nor do I have any obligation 686 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: to the best interests of black people. 687 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 2: That is a bouge wise. How do you be loyal 688 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: to black people? A millionaire? Give them, give them the game. 689 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: By a millionaire, you should be building an institution if you. 690 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: Are a millier, so nobody's loyal. You're the only one 691 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: that got to build an institution that I know. 692 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 3: Then guess what. 693 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 4: See this is what I mean. 694 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: How the hell do you be able to set the 695 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: standards like that to say when nobody's. 696 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: Loyal because they ain't doing what I meant. 697 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 4: I didn't tell you this, so okay. 698 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is for me as a pan Africanist, 699 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: as a Black activist, as a follower of the teachings 700 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: of the most Honorable Marcus Messiah Gorvey. Our standard is 701 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: high for our people, why because our ancestors standard was 702 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: high for themselves. Look At what Thaniel Luhima had to 703 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: go through for you and I to be on this stage. 704 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: Look At what a Frederick Douglass and a Market's gonna be. 705 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: Look at a Mega Evers and the Huey P. 706 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: Newton. 707 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: Look at what they had to go through for us 708 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: to even be sitting here having this conversation in Nashville, 709 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: Tennessee of all places. Who am I to say that 710 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: I am not required to put forth the same level 711 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: of commitment as those who shoulders I stand on. I'm 712 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: not giving you a new level of obligation. I'm bringing 713 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: back the old level of obliging. Is this institution thing? 714 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 3: Like? 715 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: Is this a real idea? 716 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: Like? 717 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: Is this something that can be materialized? 718 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: Don't Chinese have self sustaining institutions? 719 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 4: Don't you not? In America? 720 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: You find a China town in almost every major city, 721 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: especially I'm. 722 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: Talking about I'm talking about the school inside of. 723 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: It, same thing. 724 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: They have their own school. Yes, Okay, you see. 725 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Where is ours? Check it out? 726 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 3: You can't show me a black wall street in America. 727 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 3: You can't show me. 728 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 2: Once they Burnda down, then. 729 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: One hundred and four years ago. 730 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: Why we ain't built the new one yet. You can't 731 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: show me one city where we own the home, excuse me, 732 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: the bank, the school, the hospital, in the supermarket. 733 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: And you know what's sad. Look at all these billionaires 734 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 3: we got. 735 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: Even with billionaires, we don't have no industries for the community. 736 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: Look at my sister Oprah. And I loved my sister open. 737 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: She came from nothing, from here, fromsues, and. 738 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: Look what she became. 739 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: But don't you know, when I visited Tennessee State, maybe 740 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: two visits ago, I was interviewed at the station where 741 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: Oprah made her name. And I'm sitting there and I 742 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: couldn't help but say to myself, this station still it 743 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: looks like what it probably looked like when Oprah sat here, 744 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: with all the white women you made rich on that 745 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: damn show, with all the doctor phils and others who 746 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: you promoted to national prominence, You couldn't even give them 747 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: enough money to fix up the station. Oprah is the 748 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: richest woman in the history of the North American continent. 749 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: God forbid, if she go back to her ancestors, and 750 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: we hope that's no time soon. But God forbid that 751 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: woman go back to our ancestors. Haven't done nothing significant. 752 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: For her race? 753 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: Do you think Oprah's done nothing? 754 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: Give me, give me something significant. 755 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: Scholarships don't countship, Tell me about something. 756 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Hold on, hey, listen, 757 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: we are recorded, so y'all, please, man, I know I 758 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 2: told y'all to be involved, but we are recorded, like listen, 759 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: So so Oprah, you telling me that Oprah has done 760 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: nothing and scholarships mean nothing. 761 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: While you're working on a school. 762 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 4: Okay, let me understand that. 763 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you understand. Oprah built a grade school 764 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 3: in South Africa. I love that. Those are my brothers 765 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: and sisters. 766 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: But as Pan Africanists, we believe you struggle at home 767 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: and you struggle abroad. You gave our South African family 768 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: a school they needed that. I love South Africa, but 769 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: where is the one for the students in Nashville? You see, 770 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: that's my issue with Oprah. 771 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: But you didn't answer the question, and that was a 772 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 2: good point. 773 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: Down to the scholarships. 774 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 4: Yes, grade. 775 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: School is mandatory. It's obligatory in all fifty states. It's 776 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: no getting around it. College is optional. The reason why 777 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't want Oprah and other rich blacks trying to 778 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: get away with giving out scholarships and doing nothing else. 779 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: When you give a scholarship, you're giving money to either 780 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: a white institution and in many cases a white controlled 781 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: black institution, and when that child dull graduates, there's no 782 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: guarantee of employment. When you look at the cost of 783 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: college right now, what is TSU a year in tuition? 784 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: Now twenty five So that's one hundred thousand dollars tuition, 785 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: not including room boarding the rest. Okay, what would be 786 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: better serving our children when we know more than half 787 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: of blacks with college degrees can't find work, and most 788 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: of them don't work in the industry they receive their 789 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: degree in. Would we be better served with OPRAH giving 790 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: up one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for education or 791 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: OPRAH giving up one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for 792 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: a business startup grant. That money should be going into 793 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: business startup grants. In other words, go get your real 794 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: estate license. I'm gonna set you up with your first 795 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: office and your first business. Go get your plumbing. You're electric, 796 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: you understand. Go get your stocking investment, get your trade certificate, 797 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna set you up with your startup business. 798 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: They should be financing entreprene newership, not education. The future 799 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: for Black America is not white man degrees. It is 800 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: businesses that we run and can employ our own. Small 801 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: businesses are the backbone of the American economy. And if 802 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: they are the backbone of the American economy, they the 803 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: neck bone, chicken bone and with bone of the black community. 804 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. 805 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 2: With you again, I still haven't I want to stay 806 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: on on this point. When a young black boy gets 807 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: out of FDMG school, he's not guaranteed employment either, Yes. 808 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: He is. 809 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 3: Through us. 810 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: Our graduates will get small business loans from the school itself. 811 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 3: We're gonna set them up. 812 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,479 Speaker 1: Now. If they want to go to college, we will 813 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: support that. I'm not saying no child should go to college. 814 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: You're going to give every kid a small business. 815 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: That's our plan. 816 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 2: That's absolutely How do you plan on getting that done? 817 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: We have a plan for that. We got a nice plan. 818 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: Yes see, no, no, no, no, no, no, I got 819 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: that down, and I got some celebrity friends. I ain't 820 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: calling them names, yeah yeah, yeah, but I got some 821 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: multi millionaire celebrity friends who all know who said when 822 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: I need them, they're going to be there for me 823 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: after the school opens. They want to see the school open. 824 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: So I'm going to pick up the phone and reach 825 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: out and tap on some of them brothers, because that's 826 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a hard thing. 827 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess for me, it's the same thing 828 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 2: you're asking Steve Harvey to do with Kamala. You're asking 829 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: him to say, Hey, what do we get, what's going on? 830 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: What are you doing for black people? 831 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 2: I'm asking you that, Hey, if a black boy goes 832 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: to your school, he's not guaranteed work. 833 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: You gotta answer for that. 834 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 2: Well, he's not guaranteed work, but we have business loans, 835 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 2: and so at some point I do want to get 836 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 2: into that. Maybe not now, whenever you iron out those dps. 837 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: But you can't confuse us providing our graduates with a 838 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: business startup grant with an elective representative wanting votes without 839 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: giving anything in exchange. 840 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 2: What they're give me the same promises that you get. 841 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: No, it's completely different because one's job is to represent 842 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: the needs of the people. You understand, our job is 843 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 1: to educate our children, and as part of that education, 844 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna provide them with those business startups when they graduate. 845 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: We're not obligated to do it. She's obligated to represent 846 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: the people. Yes, but two different things right. One is 847 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: an individ You just told me you were obligated. 848 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 2: Though you said you just told me my an What 849 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: don't matter why you obligated? 850 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it does. No help y'all does listen because I 851 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: get arrested. 852 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 4: It don't matter. We both get arrested. 853 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 2: We both all arrested, all right, So listen, help me understand. 854 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: If you're the roll behind your backs all Skywalker here, 855 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna hollow you to Moses Malone, heay, Moses Malone 856 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: gonna go to do it a step past and Beyonce. 857 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: Beyonce gonna do a double dip back dunk to Michael Jackson. 858 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna roll it over to Garth Brooks. Garth Brook's 859 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: gonna take it to Lord of the Rings. Lord of 860 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: the Ring's gonna take So help me listen, understand. 861 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 2: No, no, no, help me understand. Let's bring it back. 862 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 2: Help me understand. You're giving promises. Kamala is giving. 863 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: Promises children who graduate from the School's completely different from 864 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: being a president of the United States of a meland. 865 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: You keep giving me job titles. I'm talking about intentions. 866 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 2: I don't care about job titles. You're telling me that. 867 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 2: You just told me five minutes ago. I have a 868 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: certain Barama because of my ancestors. I'm obligated to stand 869 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: out on the hill and get these institutions done. 870 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 4: Right. 871 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: You just told me that. 872 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 2: Then the next time, next sentence, you just told me, Well, 873 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm obligated for a different reason. I'm not obligated because 874 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 2: in the same way that Steve. 875 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: Harvey is our students. Right, we're starting with second through 876 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: fourth grade. We won't have a graduating class for twelve years. 877 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris wants your vote in about four weeks. What 878 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: the hell we talking about? 879 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: It's still promises though it ain't. 880 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 4: It ain't. 881 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: It's my point, I just if I gains no way 882 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: for you to know whether or not I'm going to 883 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: deliver until they graduate in eight years, and that's you 884 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: already know whether Kamala going to deliver because she's been 885 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: VP for four and it ain't gating you ish, that's true, But. 886 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 2: If she's making promises on the campaign trail, you also 887 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: have no way to know if she's going to deliver 888 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 2: until she's elected. 889 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: You are absolutely right, So what promise does she make 890 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: the black people so far on the campaign trail? 891 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: You're right, she hasn't made one that I've seen, and 892 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,439 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. 893 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 3: She don't go and make one. 894 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 2: So but you're saying she hasn't made one, and so 895 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 2: my knowledge you heard something. 896 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything. Kamala's mistake is she tried to 897 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: use the Baraco Obama racial identity strategy. 898 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 3: Problem is the people who. 899 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: Are sixteen when Obama became president, they thirty one thirty 900 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: two now and ain't not as gullible as their parents 901 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: and grandparents. They want more than your color of skin 902 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: as a reason to vote. See this whole issue about 903 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: Kamala being East Indian and not African would not even 904 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: be an issue, Loom if she didn't with racial identity 905 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: as their primary reason for why you should vote for her. 906 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: See when Steve Harvey kept saying she's a black woman, 907 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: why y'all don't want to see a black woman win? 908 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 3: When d L and Ricky and Roland. 909 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: When all them negro starts saying, y'all should want to 910 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: see a black woman in office, and that's the only 911 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 1: thing y'all giving us is the color of her skin. Naturally, 912 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: people gonna say, well, time out, because I've seen her mom. 913 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 1: That lady clearly ain't black. When I look at the dad, 914 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: he looked a little coolish. So let's dig into this 915 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. In other words, black people would have 916 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: never even dug into our ancestry, bro, and she would 917 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: have gave us. 918 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 3: Something other to look forward to. 919 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: Donald Trump never said he was black. Joe Biden never 920 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: said he was black. Bill Clinton never said he was black. 921 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: You understand. So why introduced this if you know it's 922 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: not authentic. You know why she introduced it because she 923 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: had no intention of leading with policies. 924 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 2: I also heard you in that same time goal kind 925 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 2: of respond to Riky Smiley, and Ricky Smiley actually went 926 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 2: on here show and cried. He actually shed some tears. 927 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: Because Joe Biden wrote him a personal letter. I believe 928 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: in one of his sons was ill. Okay, and see, 929 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,280 Speaker 1: here's another mistake we make as African people. A white 930 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: person does something good for you, just you. And because 931 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: the white person did something good just for you, you 932 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: think that means every black person has to sympathize with 933 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: this Caucasian because they did something good for you. Your 934 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: relationship with Joe Biden is your relationship with Joe Biden. 935 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't obligate the other forty five million blacks in 936 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: America to be Joe Biden sympathizes. We got to stop 937 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 1: that nonsense. That's your white folks don't do that. White 938 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: folks will do something for one black person and guess what, 939 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: or that black person would do something good for that 940 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: one white person, and guess what. That white person has 941 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: no intention of telling any other white person that you 942 00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: have to do right by this black are y'all following? 943 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 1: How many times have you done something to look out 944 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: for a white coworker and they never reciprocated, They never 945 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: told other white folks to take your back. 946 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 3: They don't give a damn. 947 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 1: We're the only ones running around crying for slave masters 948 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: who don't cry for us. 949 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 2: Do you? You said that him crowd was all time load? 950 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 3: Yes, because. 951 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: Why is a black man crying over a white president 952 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: and an East Indian vice president? And he tells us. 953 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 1: Don't y'all want to see a member of Alpha Kappa 954 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: Alpha Sorority Incorporated and Vice President Harris gets sworn in 955 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 1: by a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated, Supreme 956 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: Court Justice Katanji Brown, And I'm saying to myself, ain't 957 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 1: they both bunny Hoppius? I love the Aka's Lord knows, 958 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: I love some five to five thicking the thigh deltas. 959 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: For what the hell they got to do with power 960 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: to see for Black Americas. 961 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I'm I did not like that. 962 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: On the day, Doctor King, a member of the Alpha 963 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: Phi Alpha, I bet you doctor King was in his grave, 964 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: said yeah, I didn't like that. I love the Divine Nine, 965 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: but don't feed us a symbol. And to that point, 966 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: I gotta throw this at the Divine nine. Y'all raised 967 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars in one night, and all of them 968 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: come from black communities, without a single decent school, without 969 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: a single decent hospital, without a single bank that will 970 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: invest in our businesses, without a single decent place for 971 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: our mothers to get food to feed their children. Look 972 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: at what we did just for her to run, Just 973 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: for her to run. You don't get the money back. 974 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: Thirty million in a night. That's at least five schools 975 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: right there. So we got the money, we just don't 976 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: care enough to invest in the future of our children. 977 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 2: Did you ever were you ever gonna join? 978 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: I was gonna join Omegasi Phi Fraternity Incorporated Harrisburg Grad 979 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: Chapter because we didn't have no cues at Millersville University 980 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: in Lancaster, and somebody hated on me and sent my 981 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: information to the wrong address. So when I showed up 982 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: for the first night, mad Dog from Temple University told 983 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: me since I didn't have on a shirt and a tie, 984 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't come in. And it wasn't meant. It wasn't meant, 985 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: did you? 986 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean, what's your feeling about fraternities? 987 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: And everything's neutral, it's how you use it. Doctor King 988 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: was out for fay Alfha, Doctor Colin f du Muhammad 989 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: was on Megasi five major doctor Martin Robinson Delaney grandfather 990 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: Pan Africanism. 991 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,240 Speaker 3: He was amazing. 992 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: Prince Hall another Pan African is he was Amazon. So 993 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: it's all neutral, it's what you do with it. In 994 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 1: other words, at TSU, the fraternities might actually be in 995 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: sororities might actually be into community service. They might actually 996 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 1: be into stop the violence. They might actually be into 997 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: growing black businesses. I might go down the road to 998 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: fist and it might just be a party happy situation. 999 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 3: It all depends where you are. 1000 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: The fraternities and sororities are too diverse to judge an 1001 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: entire organization because there's just too much variety amongst them. 1002 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: I speak in colleges all the time. I'm impressed with 1003 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that they're doing at certain places 1004 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: and other places. I'm like, they need to shut this 1005 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: chapter down because all y'all want to do is hayes 1006 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: people gets drunk and party march at the parties, you 1007 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 1008 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 3: So it really all depends on the chapel. 1009 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: In essence, I support them because many of our ancestors. 1010 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 3: Came through those channels and they used it for good. 1011 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 2: But see, here's Dell, this is where I want to go. 1012 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 2: I want to take the conversation to a different spot 1013 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 2: because you're sounding like you're passion and you care about fraternities. 1014 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 2: But I did see that you've been having this conversation 1015 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: about hip hop and it's where it has not did 1016 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,479 Speaker 2: anything in fifty years. 1017 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 3: So are you considering hip hop a fraternity? 1018 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 2: I'm considering hip hop. Well, I won't explore I won't 1019 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 2: explore this conversation. I won't explore the fraternity and hip 1020 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 2: hop because. 1021 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: If they are a fraternity, who are their founders and 1022 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: who do they pay dues to? 1023 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know, see, here we go, This is where 1024 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: it gets interested