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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark with me as always as the lovely

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<v Speaker 1>and esteem of Charles W. Chucker Bryant. Are you going,

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<v Speaker 1>buddy right? Are you slightly under the weather? I see Ted? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone send other well wishes things. You'll be well by

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<v Speaker 1>the time it's can tell them, probably, but it'll still

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<v Speaker 1>warm my heart to see well wish exactly. Chuck. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've got the email, but we've been

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<v Speaker 1>asked to mention a couple of shows that are coming

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<v Speaker 1>out companion shows. They're coming out on the Science Channel, um,

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<v Speaker 1>The Road to punkin Chunking and punkin Chunking Itself Naturally. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that Josh is uh, Thanksgiving night if you're board

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<v Speaker 1>after your turkey on the Science Channel eight Eastern time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So can we get back to it? Yeah, let's do it, great, Chuck, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember coming into that delivery room from the

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<v Speaker 1>womb with your mom going and you all wet and

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<v Speaker 1>nasty and cold all of a sudden and everything's bright

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<v Speaker 1>and there's people spanking you and you're suddenly a little perturbed.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being perturbed. That sounds like last Friday night

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm not talking about any goat being around show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that, do why? I'm totally full of it?

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently no one members this. Being born is impossible

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we know. As far as we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so, anytime you hear somebody describing how they remember

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<v Speaker 1>being born, you can punch them in the stomach and

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<v Speaker 1>call them a liar. Do people say that I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>it before. Yeah, it's rare, but yeah, people do say

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<v Speaker 1>that they have uncovered that memory. What through primal therapy?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are we getting there? You've got a little foreshadowing binge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally like the last thing we're probably gonna cover

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<v Speaker 1>and every end. Well, let's talk about this, Chuck, Why

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<v Speaker 1>can't you remember being born, especially because there they think

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<v Speaker 1>that infants are able to form memories, So why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>we be able to be formed? And what's going on here? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just weird that our brains wouldn't start forming memories

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<v Speaker 1>until a certain age after we're born. What's up with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we remember being in the womb or sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on a cloud waiting to come down into your mom's tummy,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, being like uh lay ocean gunman or

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<v Speaker 1>something before you got to the cloud that why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we remember any of that? Well, we can get to

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<v Speaker 1>that in one second, but we should go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>just say historically that for many, many, many years, like

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred years, they thought that we just simply our

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<v Speaker 1>little baby brains weren't formed enough to uh, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make these memories happen. Which it's a legitimate theory. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they looked into it that much though,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, we develop at a certain pace, like

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even have knee caps for the first several months,

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<v Speaker 1>two years. Maybe, yeah, you don't have knee caps, pal,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I knew that. That's why baby legs

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<v Speaker 1>are so weird looking. You just want to chew on them,

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<v Speaker 1>right yea um, but yeah, so we developed like we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't come out of the womb fully grown, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can. It's not the most bone head. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>spontaneous regeneration theory. No, but they didn't. For about a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years, they didn't even look into it much, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think. And then for the past twenty years they've

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<v Speaker 1>started to well, hold on, what is it called? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about childhood amnesia? I am previously known as

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<v Speaker 1>infantile amnesia by your favorite Mr Sigmund Fruid. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, what a surprise? He said that I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do with repressed sexual urges. Holy cow, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. Freud equated something with sex everything sex sex, sex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. Sure, he said that we What we did

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<v Speaker 1>was we repressed our memories of traumatic often sexual urgings,

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<v Speaker 1>and formed screen memories to uh, to block the unconscious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd right, And by screen memories, no memories is another

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<v Speaker 1>way to put that, because most people apparently can't come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a concrete memory from their childhood until they

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<v Speaker 1>turned about age three, right, But when you that's as

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<v Speaker 1>far back as most people can remember it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember back that far. My first memory was in

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<v Speaker 1>my first house that we moved from when I was three,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember very specifically a couple of things. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my mom wrapping her wedding ring on the back

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<v Speaker 1>window when it was time to come in and eat.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember right before we moved out, we were

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<v Speaker 1>eating on the floor that was you know, the furniture

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<v Speaker 1>was was gone, and the next door neighbor, Billy Bright,

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<v Speaker 1>came up to our screen door and like stood in

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<v Speaker 1>the doorway and just watched us eat. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that and I was three. What about you my earliest memory, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I must have been pretty young because I was still

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<v Speaker 1>wearing diapers. Definitely less than I was younger than seven. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was banging goodbye on a storm window a

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<v Speaker 1>storm door. Uh. And my older sister Karen was babysitting

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<v Speaker 1>me and my mom was leaving this how I used

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<v Speaker 1>to say goodbye so I couldn't talk. So it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>younger than six. Um. And I was banging on the

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<v Speaker 1>storm window and just put my arm right through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember that scene. Um, but that's that's my

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<v Speaker 1>no one. Do you remember that where you cut and wounded.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I don't remember paying or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was definitely bleeding everywhere. I remember my sister

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<v Speaker 1>Karen just screaming, bloody murder. She was so freaked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you were mannish enough at that age

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<v Speaker 1>to put your arm through a storm. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing, don't worry about it, Karen, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>Josh door. Yeah, and then I went and started a fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you. So, um, that's my earliest memory. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, it's like it's sporadic. I can't really I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you what agent it took place at well,

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<v Speaker 1>either aside from knowing that I lived in that house

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<v Speaker 1>and I moved it three. One of the things that um,

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<v Speaker 1>I I recognize that as a very concrete memory, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's no photos of it. Apparently, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look through family photos, it's very easy to generate false memories, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>um or you know, obviously you can support the memories

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<v Speaker 1>that you do have, as vague as they are, by

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<v Speaker 1>looking at family photos, but these serve as cues. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no photos of this one, and I was wearing diapers,

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, this constitute is my release We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the cues as well in a minute. But what

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<v Speaker 1>they did figure out in the past twenty years from

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of studying is that they've determined that

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<v Speaker 1>children as young as three months old can't actually form memories.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the fact that these memories don't stick around

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<v Speaker 1>as long term, right. And even more than that, they've

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<v Speaker 1>also determined that we're born with UM, the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>form unconscious memories. Talk about that. That's pretty cool. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So basically we have two kinds of memory. We have UM, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>explicit memory. Right. Do you remember when we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>dogs perceiving time? We touched on this then too, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about explicit memory or UM semantic No, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about explicit memory, right, or episodic memory is

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<v Speaker 1>the name of it. UM. And then there's the other kind,

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<v Speaker 1>the unconscious memories UM, which are referred to as semantic.

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<v Speaker 1>So you remember when I asked you and how do

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<v Speaker 1>dogs perceived time? Um? You know what you had for

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast and you were describing it in detail, which lent

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<v Speaker 1>itself to have It was evidential that that was an

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<v Speaker 1>episodic memory, like you clearly had memories and with a

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<v Speaker 1>semantic memory. That's where you learn how to play a piano. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And you might not remember learning to play the piano,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can remember how to play the piano because

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<v Speaker 1>you've learned it. You're accessing a different kind of memory, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And oddly enough, if you like lose your memory and

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<v Speaker 1>an accident or something and anesia, you may be able

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<v Speaker 1>to still remember how to play the piano. I find

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff absolutely fascinating. Okay, So for unconscious memory, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're born with that, but it take it does take

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<v Speaker 1>uh several months, if not years to start to develop

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<v Speaker 1>episodic memory. Right, So how does episodic memory work? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what are you talking about? Encoding? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well the brain obviously, to create a memory, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to create a synapse, which is just a connection firing

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<v Speaker 1>within your brain between two neurons. And uh, what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is when you, when you have a memory, encode that

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<v Speaker 1>memory that sensory information into your memory bank, and then

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<v Speaker 1>from there your brain categorizes it kind of files it

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<v Speaker 1>away like you would on your computer, and then weird

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<v Speaker 1>to think think about this, chuck, There are a series

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<v Speaker 1>of brain cells in your brain right now, just a

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<v Speaker 1>few that that are connected via synapsis that are responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for maintaining your memory of the scent of a guardinia.

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<v Speaker 1>How mind boggling is that my brain is melting? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you think of the scent of a gardenia,

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<v Speaker 1>you can come up with it, right, You can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of remember what it's like right now that I'm right there. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>when you smell a guardinia over and over, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>can pick up more elements of that smell, right exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can add to that memory more and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more. That makes right. But also the more that

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the scent of a guardinia, the more

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<v Speaker 1>that you recall it, the stronger that memory gets. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I would think so yeah, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a chef with their palette. So yeah, right. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's like if you train yourself to think of

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<v Speaker 1>something or you think is something a lot, naturally your

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<v Speaker 1>memories of it become stronger because that neural connection through

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<v Speaker 1>the synapsies becomes stronger, biochemically stronger. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I think of milk steak, I can recall

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<v Speaker 1>that scent because I think about it on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is. But that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>second time this week I've heard that what is milk steak? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia last week. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so what was that? The milk steak is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a steak that's literally boiled in milk.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get the impression there's some old school like

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<v Speaker 1>from the two. But it was very funny obviously on

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<v Speaker 1>that show for Charlie to say it's his favorite food. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so where were we? Memory? Once your brain has

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<v Speaker 1>filed those things away, if you want to recall that

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<v Speaker 1>memory after it's consolidated, you need to retrieve these files

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<v Speaker 1>like you would on your computer again, same way and um,

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<v Speaker 1>well not the same way, but the same same theory

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. In order to do this, your brain literally

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<v Speaker 1>retraces those original synapsis that led to the memory in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. So it pulls up all that information

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I've read another article on memory formation and

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<v Speaker 1>that process was compared to, um, wearing a path through

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<v Speaker 1>the woods. Right you go through the first time, you

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<v Speaker 1>might it might consist of like some broken ferns or

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<v Speaker 1>branches or something like this. You can kind of find

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<v Speaker 1>your way. But over the course of months or years,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you use it, the more visible it is,

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<v Speaker 1>the more easily accessible it is. That make like forging

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<v Speaker 1>a trail. Oh cool, Yeah, alright, So what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about encoding Because of the original held belief that babies

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<v Speaker 1>could not encode, they thought, all right, well, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>have this memory, but they can't encode it. Uh not true.

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<v Speaker 1>So it says a study with the mobile, the little

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<v Speaker 1>babies in the mobile in the ribbon, they're little needless baby.

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<v Speaker 1>They took these little chubby baby legs and they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking two and three month olds, and they tied ribbon

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<v Speaker 1>to Uh. I guess jute rope would have been cruel

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<v Speaker 1>to pull tender baby legs just so it with like

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<v Speaker 1>a rusty needle in twine. Yeah. So they take ribbon

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<v Speaker 1>and they tied to the baby's legs and then tied

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<v Speaker 1>to a mobile above their head. And they found that

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<v Speaker 1>a baby learned that by kicking their legs they would

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<v Speaker 1>make the mobile move, which made the babies coup and

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<v Speaker 1>perr I would imagine, But I thought babies always kicked

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<v Speaker 1>their legs, So I kind of wondered about this that

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<v Speaker 1>one I found that same. I had that same idea myself,

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<v Speaker 1>because later on when they placed the same babies under

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<v Speaker 1>a mobile, uh, they would start kicking their legs like

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to make it move with the with the ribbon,

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<v Speaker 1>although the ribbon was no longer attached, and they took

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<v Speaker 1>from that they remembered that if you're under a mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>kick your legs. Maybe they were saying, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>knee gaps, maybe kicking their legs around. Yeah, but that

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<v Speaker 1>that actually raises a really excellent point, like, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure any evidence that you can come up with, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to determine whether or not animals are happy.

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<v Speaker 1>We uh, we express our world views, our emotions, everything

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<v Speaker 1>verbally or or through written language. But it's through language.

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<v Speaker 1>So before while we're pre verbal, um, everything is up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air. We it's it's almost impossible to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with definitive evidence of anything that surrounds That's actually

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good setup for later two with the verbal

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just a tease. Uh. Just to close on

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<v Speaker 1>that study, though, they found that six month old babies

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<v Speaker 1>actually picked up that relationship between kicking legs and the

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<v Speaker 1>mobile moving faster. So this is what led them to

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<v Speaker 1>think that babies actually gradually accelerate that instead of oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have no memory, and all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my third birthday and now I do have memory. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a gradual thing instead of a sudden rapid growth.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another type of memory called implicit memory, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>is that this is um. This is we're born with this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also different from uh our ability to form

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<v Speaker 1>unconscious memories. It's controlled by the um cerebellum um. And

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<v Speaker 1>basically this is like our ability to remember that, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we are hungry and we need to eat um, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we need to seek out the our mother's

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<v Speaker 1>warmth or something like that. Sure, like I hear her

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<v Speaker 1>voice and I know that means that the milk is

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<v Speaker 1>coming soon. So that that but that also sticks with

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<v Speaker 1>us throughout our entire lives, so we don't necessarily forget that,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, So I mean you don't ever forget like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I'm hungry, I need to eat, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to be warm right now? Right? That

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<v Speaker 1>usually helps me survive. UM, But we're not. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>centered around necessarily is a specific event in time. We've

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<v Speaker 1>yet to figure out how to put things in the

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<v Speaker 1>context of a timeline, which apparently is where real explicit

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<v Speaker 1>memory begins, right, and that's when you need the cues.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we've kind of figured out, not we,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but that's what they have figured out. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the death between the babies and the adults is they

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<v Speaker 1>cannot pick up on the cues from their past. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of them that you were talking about was speech verbalization. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we we apparently not only do we use uh

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<v Speaker 1>language to express ourselves our thoughts or views or opinions

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<v Speaker 1>or emotions even um, we also apparently four memories using language,

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<v Speaker 1>autobiographical memories. Right. There was this really interesting study that

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<v Speaker 1>um is in this article, which by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>called kind of Person Remember Being Born? It's on the site.

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<v Speaker 1>It was written by the esteemed and um now famous

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<v Speaker 1>Christen Congery of Steph Mom Never Told You and Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very dense article. I gotta say, there was

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<v Speaker 1>not much fluff in here, right, no chuck chuck usually

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<v Speaker 1>highlights like the most important ones. I'm looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>article right now. The entire article is yellow yellow. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a article. Um So this study it was a two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand four study um, and it found that um. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a study of twenty seven and thirty nine month

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<v Speaker 1>old boys and girls, and it found that if children

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know the words to describe an event when it happened, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't describe it later after learning the appropriate words.

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<v Speaker 1>That is awesome? Isn't it very cool? So apparently our

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<v Speaker 1>language development and memory formation are very closely tied. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you'll notice, that was a two thousand four study.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just starting to crack um the the mystery of

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<v Speaker 1>childhood amnesia, right right, you know, I got another one

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<v Speaker 1>for you to, let's hear it. In relation to memory,

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<v Speaker 1>context has a lot to do with it. And what

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<v Speaker 1>they found in another study was that preschool aged kids

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<v Speaker 1>can explain sequential order. But sequential order is not the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing as a timeline of your life. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you're taken to a circus, you might remember,

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<v Speaker 1>first the clown came out, and then the bear attacked

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<v Speaker 1>the trainer and that kind of thing, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like this happened two days before I started reading the

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<v Speaker 1>Ramona Quimby series something like that, and that like you like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was saying that timeline is what forms our

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<v Speaker 1>life or else we just have a cluster of like

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<v Speaker 1>weird memories of like bears attacking trainers and you know,

0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.639
<v Speaker 1>one chapter of a Ramona Quimby book or setting something

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<v Speaker 1>on fire, And how can you if our lives are

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but a string of memories and hopes for the future,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of life is that if we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a timeline to fit it? On good point, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>we develop our sense of self absolutely and what was

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<v Speaker 1>there was another cool stating here about how it ties

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<v Speaker 1>to self recognition and your ability to recognize yourself as yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And they say that they don't think babies have this

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<v Speaker 1>skill and they cannot basically don't have a personal identity

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<v Speaker 1>until they're about two years old. Not only that, they

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<v Speaker 1>have no um sense of um concreteness of the world

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<v Speaker 1>around them. So I can't remember what age it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very young age that they start to develop this.

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<v Speaker 1>But say within the first two months, when you're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there cooing over a baby and you leave their field

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<v Speaker 1>of vision, you're gone. You don't exist any longer, and

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<v Speaker 1>you never did. Well, that's sad, isn't it. So Luckily

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<v Speaker 1>that goes away very quickly because I mean, again, what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way is that to live? Don't tell the

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<v Speaker 1>mom's that isn't that odd? Like you don't exist when

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<v Speaker 1>you're not in their field of vision? Yeah? Are this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of comforting? Almost in a way too. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>when you thump them and run away, they're just like

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could be forgotten instantly by many people

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<v Speaker 1>I meet. It's nice, um. And what about the cultural

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of this? I found this interesting as well, step boy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they found that, uh, and this isn't surprising for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>but they found in relation to memory that Westerners personal

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<v Speaker 1>memories focus more on themselves, whereas Easterners remember themselves as

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<v Speaker 1>part of a group scenario. Isn't that yes, because we're selfish,

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<v Speaker 1>selfish Westerners. And the other cool thing too about the parents.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that parents can and this is really good

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<v Speaker 1>for parents to know. Actually, the more that you describe

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<v Speaker 1>things to your children as they're growing up, the better

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to not only be able to recall that,

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<v Speaker 1>but be able to describe their own experiences later in life.

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<v Speaker 1>The more detailed you get with your recounting, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>remember we went to the zoo yesterday and you saw

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<v Speaker 1>the bear that had the the bow tie on, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the guy through the peanut atom and where should

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<v Speaker 1>I go from here? So the more detailed you are

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<v Speaker 1>with with going over these things with your kid every day,

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<v Speaker 1>than the more they're gonna be better off later on

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<v Speaker 1>in life and stuck you're gonna like this little outside research. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I read a study, or I read an article, honest

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<v Speaker 1>study I should admit um of fifteen months old that

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<v Speaker 1>shows that sporadic napping actually helps us form the memories

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<v Speaker 1>needed to learn languages. Yeah, so they used made up

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<v Speaker 1>language that they taught to these kids, esperanto, not quite um.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like just babble, but it did have UM

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<v Speaker 1>patterns in it, recognizable patterns UM. And they found that

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<v Speaker 1>kids who nap more often were able to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>this language or retain memories of how to speak this

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<v Speaker 1>language better than kids who didn't nap. His offen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that ties into something we said a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago about the brain during sleep using that time

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<v Speaker 1>to file file everything away. That maybe, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>dreams are too, That they're misfiles. Dude. Yeah, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>covering everything that's covered in the past. So the whole circle, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, we're good like that, aren't we. We should

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about how toothpaste and orange juice don't mix.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a classic. UM I guess that's it, right, I'm done.

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