1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. The Opponent Preview series heads out 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: West with the l A charter Ka and I talked 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: about the Chargers with both of their team reporters, Haley 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Elwood and Chris Harry. They joined the pot and you'll 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: hear from them, and they feels like this Chargers team 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: is extremely talented on paper. Yet obviously they didn't make 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year and they lose Philip Rivers. But 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: depending upon how either Tyrod Taylor or Justin Herbert play, 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: this team has the pieces, it seems to make a 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: playoff push in two thousand twenty while they got an 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: awfully difficult division. It kind of feels like the Jets 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: position for the last two decades where the New England 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Patriots were always there. And I'm not saying the Kansas 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: City Chiefs have had that kind of run so far, 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: but you he's he couldn't make the argument right now 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes is the top player in the National 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Football League. He was just a Super Bowl m v 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: p uh. He's a fantastic player and the Chiefs are 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: sitting there in your division. So that is a tough 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: task for Anthony Lynn and company. I like what they 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: look like on paper, but they have a major question 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: mark ethan, considering that Philip Rivers was there for so 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: long and he was such a big presence on that 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: team and inside that organization, and how do you make 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: that transition because, as you know, you need that stability 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. And I know for a fact 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: that Anthony Lynn likes to Rod Teller a lot and 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: he had success with him with the Buffalo Bills. But 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: you just took Justin Herbert there in the top ten, 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: and the question mark is always going to be off 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: the bat any time you have a sign of turbulence 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: is when you get when are you going to give 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the keys to the Oregon product and let him handle 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: the offense. Yeah. I think it's gonna be interesting even 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: if Tyrod Taylor starts the season and what the Jets 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: play the Chargers in Week six? Right? So is that 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: if things are off to a shaky start with Taylor 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: under center in this hypothetical scenario, is week six about 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the time where Justin Herbert might get the keys to 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the offense? I don't know. I think it'll just be 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: a very fascinating storyline. Obviously, you drafted Herbert in the 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: top ten for a reason and we'll see how it 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: plays out. But maybe it's just me e a. But 45 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: what I think of Tarrod Taylor in recent years in 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: terms of how the Jets affaired against him, I think 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: they've done a pretty good job. I mean, I think 48 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: of the Jets dance at anything game when he was 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: in Buffalo a couple of years ago, and then the 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: first half of the Browns game before Baker Mayfield made 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: his debut. I mean, the Jets were making life miserable 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: for Taylor and both of those games. And I'm not 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: saying that Taylor is a bad player, because I think 54 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: he's a good player, and Anthony lynn Is, to your point, 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: has done good things with him. But I think that 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: the Jets have kind of had his number recently. And 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: I know that's kind of unrelated to what we're talking about, 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: but I think that the pieces around to Rod Taylor 59 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: or Justin Herbert will definitely make life a little easier 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: with a guy like Keenan Allen and do it all 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: back in Austin Ekeler and Mike Williams, who was a 62 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: top ten pick. A couple of years ago and is 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: just a big body receiver where he can jump up 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: and he can come down with almost anything. Yeah, and 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers have a quality tight on a wall. Uh 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line. They did some things in the off 67 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: season here bringing in Brian Bulaga, the former Green Bay Packer. 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: They made the trade for trade Turner, but Russell ol 69 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Kong was the other side of that deal. So what 70 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: are the charges going to look like? In O Kung's absence? 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Meaning who's gonna fill that void at the tackle position 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: where they seemingly have solidified the right side of the 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: line where maybe people are gonna question where is this 74 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: team gonna be at offensively on the left side of 75 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line. I think that that offense is gonna 76 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: look completely different because Philip Rivers, while good presence in 77 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: the pocket, no doubt about that, shuffle his feet from 78 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: time to time. You'd see him talk, not a speech 79 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: or by any means. Both these guys and Teller and 80 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Herbert much more mobile threats. So I think the offense 81 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: will look vastly different in two thousand twenty. But you're right, 82 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: the Jets have had a lot of success against Teller. 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Teller is the kind of low risk player. Okay, where 84 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: is he does not turn the football over, But at 85 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: the same time, is he threatening you all the time 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: down the field or is he taking the much safer, 87 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: safer play, which a lot of times is the right play. 88 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: But with that being said, I think that's why the 89 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: turnovers have been so down for him, is he's a 90 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: risk of verse player, but you have to give him 91 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: credit for protecting the football. Yeah, I think Justin Herbert 92 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: is very similar. I mean this past season for the 93 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks thirty two touchdowns, just six interceptions. And let's 94 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: hear from Haley Elwood and Chris Harry, the Chargers team reporters, 95 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: and hear what they have to say about this l 96 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: A team. What is going on out in l A 97 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: under center? Obviously after Rod Taylor out there, the team 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: drafts Justin Herbert. What does head coach Anthony Lynn said 99 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: about the signal caller position? So I think at this 100 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: point they have complete faith in Tyrod Taylor. And you look, 101 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: he's a guy obviously who has familiarity with Chargers head 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: coach Anthony Lynn. You guys obviously know him well from 103 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: the time he spent in the A See East. And 104 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: I think personally, just given this kind of new environment 105 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: that we're in, it's extremely helpful to have that veteran presence. 106 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Tyrod has been in this offense for a year. You 107 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: obviously draft Justin Herbert very high, you know, to be 108 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback essentially for the future. But given this virtual 109 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: offseason that we've been in, given the sort of uncertainty 110 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: of potentially what's to come, I think it bodes well though, 111 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: to have that veteran like Tyrod Taylor and not have 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: to put all your eggs in a rookies basket at 113 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: this point. Chris New era a Charger's football. That's what 114 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Tom to LESCo saying, New performs, new stadium and a 115 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: new football team. What should Chargers fans be expecting from 116 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: this group as they're kind of undergoing a period of 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: transition right now, You know they are, but but I 118 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: think what this team is looking for is to replicate 119 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: what they did two years ago because there's a lot 120 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: of the same players on both sides of the football. Obviously, 121 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers the biggest piece that is not with the team. 122 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: But you go back to two thousand, a team when 123 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: they won twelve games, this defense, and I think the 124 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: biggest thing that hurt this team last year was obviously 125 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: the turnovers and then taking the football back on defense. 126 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: They weren't able to do that. They weren't able to 127 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: generate turnovers. When you have a guy like Derwin James 128 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: healthy for all six team games, I know that's what 129 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: everybody's hoping for this year. You felt his presence towards 130 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: the end of last year. The season was kind of lost, 131 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: but you did feel the energy that Darwin provided his 132 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: rookie season. So with all these free agent additions, UH 133 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: talk about Chris Harris Jr. Lim Val Joseph on the 134 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, the right side of that 135 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: line getting revent with Bribe Bulaga and Trade Turner. Uh A. 136 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Couple that with all the guys that they are bringing 137 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: back um and the draft. You know Haley mentioned Justin Herbert, 138 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: but how about Kenneth Murray the linebacker draft at number 139 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: twenty three overall. Now on each level your defense, you 140 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: have a blue chip caliber player when you talk about 141 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, Kenneth Murray, and Derwin James. So I think 142 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: this Chargers team is excited about where they're at right 143 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: now and they're looking to replicate what they did in 144 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: that last season, Haley, just going off of what Chris said, 145 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: it definitely seems like this team on paper has a 146 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: lot of talent on both sides of the ball. What 147 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: needs to happen for them to execute is it? Is 148 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: it something with the coaching, like what happened last year 149 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: compared to two years ago that the Charger didn't make 150 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: it in the postseason dance. Well, I think, to kind 151 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: of just piggyback off of what Chris said two thousand nineteen, 152 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: it was the year of the takeaways. It was that 153 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: the team gave the ball away too much but didn't 154 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: take away enough. And I think when you add playmakers 155 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: like Chris Harris Jr. You add guys to the secondary, 156 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: you add guys to the defense who can force pressure, 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: maybe make takeaways, that will help. I think ultimately though, 158 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: it does come down to just kind of piecing it 159 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: all together and making sure it all fits together. This 160 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: is a team that has an incredible amount of players, 161 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl players, all Pro players, players who are amazing 162 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: at their positions and what they do. But it's just 163 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of making sure it all gels and just find 164 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: winning little things. You look at one unit specifically, and 165 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: that was the offensive line that had a lot of 166 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: players young players step up last year due to either 167 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: injuries or whatnot. And in the offseason, Tom Talsco said, 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, that's a priority. Reshaping that as a priority, 169 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: and that is something that they did. It's not the 170 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: sexiest position, we know that, but when you're not talking 171 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: about offensive lineman, that's a good thing. But you bring 172 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: in a guy like James Campin, who had success with 173 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers to coach that unit. You add 174 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Brian Bulaga, like Chris said, you add Trey Turner to 175 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: sort of reinforce that right side, and you make those 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: changes up front, it sort of ultimately help the run 177 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: game and also helped the quarterback as well. Chris, Anthony 178 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and Lenz one of my favorite people in the National 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Football League, A great man, a very good football coach. 180 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I liked what he did with Tyrod tallor when he 181 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: was calling the plays with the Buffalo Bills. How different 182 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: will this offense operate now with Philip Rivers, who in 183 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: my book, a future Hall of Famer, but not the 184 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: most mobile guy in the world at this point of 185 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: his career. And now you bring in Tyrod Taylor. And 186 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: by the way, if you ever go to Justin Herbert, 187 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: he can move as well. He can And that's what 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: I think is is most exciting about this new look 189 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Chargers offenses. They're gonna be able to do some things 190 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: that they didn't do with Philip. I just did a 191 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: little film session with Shane Stike in the offensive coordinator 192 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: and what are the common themes in the quarterback's room 193 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: When you got ty Rod, Easton Stick and Justin Herbert, 194 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: They're all very mobile, so they they pose a threat that, uh, 195 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback that just kind of stands in the pocket 196 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: is not going to provide. And to to piggyback off 197 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: the turnover thing. Tyrode doesn't turn the football over. That's 198 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: been kind of his trademark is he has not turned 199 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: the football over throughout his NFL career. So I'm excited 200 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: to see what this offense looks like. You mentioned James 201 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Camping coming in. The running game is gonna look at 202 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: probably a little bit different to Austin Ekeler back there. 203 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: Justin Jackson he could stay healthy. He showed really aust 204 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: and flashes early in his career. And then Josh M 205 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: Kelly from U C l a uh, someone who can 206 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: kind of try to replicate that Melvin Gordon role. I 207 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: think that's a big deal for the Chargers. Hayley, I 208 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: just want to piggyback off of what Chris said. What 209 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: can you tell us about this Chargers backfield that doesn't 210 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: have Melvin Gordon anymore? But Austin Ekeler clearly the feature 211 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: back there, and who potentially is, let's say, like the 212 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: X factor of this Chargers offense. We think about guys 213 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: like Keenan Allen, but maybe who's someone that's not in 214 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: the national spotlight. Gosh, it's so hard to kind of pinpoint, 215 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: but I think, honestly, I'm gonna say Austin Ekeler. I mean, 216 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: he is the feature back at this point, and I 217 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: think he's obviously no look, he got the new contract, 218 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: people know him, but I still think he almost in 219 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: a weird way, flies under the radar just a little 220 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: bit with what he's able to do also in the 221 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: past game. But with that backfield you have Justin Jackson, 222 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: you add Joshua Kelly running back out of U C. 223 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: L A. I think it's going to be a really 224 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: really interesting tandem. And honestly, also just again, what Eckler 225 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: brings to this offense is so dying amic again on 226 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: the ground through the year, and I think he will 227 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: be just a great asset as well as he's done. Look, 228 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: he was an undrafted free agent just a few years ago, 229 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: but as well as he's done, he will only continue 230 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: to grow and get better and move forward as this 231 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: offense progresses as well. Chris. You mentioned Chris Harris and 232 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: also Lenville Joseph, but Kenneth Murray. I think it's surprised 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people that the Chargers moved back at 234 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: the end of the first round to pick him up 235 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma. What is he going to provide the 236 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: defense that maybe they were missing? Because you're right, in 237 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: years past you talk about the athleticism and especially back 238 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: there in the defensive backfield with a guy like Derwyn 239 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Derwin James. But what is he going to add to 240 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: the entire defense? And Murray a guy kind of running 241 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: space linebacker. Well, I think a lot. I think it's 242 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of a two tiered question because I do believe 243 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: that he's going to make an immediate impact, and obviously 244 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: with all these virtual offseason programs, uh, it's gonna be 245 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: tough for rookies to really cement themselves in year one, 246 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: but I think Kenneth Murray's kind of the exception to 247 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: the rule here. Extremely smart guy. Coach Lynn said he 248 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: had a man crush Kenneth Murray. He said that they 249 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: had an amazing interview at the combine and he made 250 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: a point to to talk to Tom and get back 251 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: into the first round to get Kenneth. Uh, he's one 252 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: of those players that down the line, he's going to 253 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: be the leader of your defense right now. I think 254 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: he has a capability of kind of spearheading that that 255 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: linebacking group. And then another guy, Drew Tranquil, that we 256 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: don't talk about too much, really came on towards the 257 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: end of last year. Uh. The young linebacking group of 258 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers, They're gonna be a very impressive bunch in 259 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: a few years. But you talked about that run hit 260 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: linebacker A Kenneth Murray is going to make an impact 261 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: in Gus Bradley's defense. I believe in year one is 262 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Drew Tranquil, the player that Daniel Jeremiah said he believes 263 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: is a future pro bowler Or am I making that up? 264 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: What I talked to DJ a couple of weeks ago 265 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: and he said, no one in the country is talking 266 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: about Drew Tranquil right now. And Haley can attest to this. 267 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: We saw him in Week one block a punt against 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: the Colts. UM. He was a stalwart on special teams 269 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: and he's slowly it's his way into the starting line. 270 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: Towards the end of the year. There was some injuries 271 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: Um and he made the most of it. So I'm 272 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: looking at a guy like Drew Trank will to be 273 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: a three down player, really maybe a four down player. 274 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: When you talk about special teams in year two, Haley, 275 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: how about the edges that Chargers defense? Is it as 276 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: simple as if this team can be successful stop in 277 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the run, they're gonna be successful because those guys can 278 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback as well as anybody in this league. Yeah, 279 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. And I think when you 280 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: look at the a f C West, almost every team 281 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: has an incredible pair of edge rushers. I think for 282 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers, that tandem of of Joey Bose and Melvin Ingram, 283 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: it's incredible. And when they work together, I mean, pick 284 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: your poison, right Like, That's essentially what it is, but 285 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: that's the key to the to success, to having success 286 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: against a very potent offense, is being able to force 287 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: that pressure. But those two guys, they can get after it. 288 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: And like Chris said, they added some other pieces, especially 289 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: to to the d line as well, like Lindvall Joseph 290 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: he's another guy, huge veteran presence, obviously more inside but 291 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see what they can do again, 292 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: just working together another year together in this defense, but 293 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: really getting after it. Chris, the Jets have their own 294 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: very talented safety and Jamal Adams, but Derwin James another 295 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: young ascending safety. It's gonna be fun to watch those 296 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: two guys on the field in the same day. Not 297 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: at the same time obviously because they both play defense. 298 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: But what does Derwin James add to this Chargers defense 299 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: and what did they miss when he was hurt last year? Everything? 300 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: And it's it's it's funny to say that as a rookie, 301 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: but you felt his presence his rookie season as soon 302 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: as he stepped onto the football field. He brought an 303 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: energy and enthusiasm to the defense that frankly, they were 304 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: lacking last year. He got hurt right in front of 305 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: Haley and myself in training camp. Um, I believe he 306 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: is returning interception against the joint practice against the Saints 307 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: and when he left the lineup. Obviously the defense was 308 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: built around Derwin. The ability for Dorwin to do so 309 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: many different things on the field. He's almost like a 310 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: positionless player. So you add that plus the leadership and 311 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: the energy and the enthusiasm that he brings to the defense. Um, 312 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: healthy Derwin James means that this Chargers defense is gonna 313 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: be hume On on on all cylinders. Because you talk about 314 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Casey Hayward, Chris Harris Jr. These are guys who could 315 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: take the football away too. So the Russian cover they 316 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: worked together with botha in Ingram Derwin James was the 317 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: missing link last year. Haley, How important is culture gonna 318 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: be this season in terms of the Chargers. This is 319 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: an organization that has been synonymous with Philip Rivers for 320 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: a long time. Now they're making the switch. But you 321 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: do have a very strong leader in charge and at 322 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: the land who has handled so many different things over 323 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: the course of his coaching career. Oh, the culture I 324 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: think will translate seamlessly. And again he you know, if 325 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 1: you say, Tyrod Taylor's the starting quarterback. He has that 326 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: familiarity with coach Lennon. Players trust coach lend They trusted 327 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: him after that first season they started oh and four 328 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: and then got to nine and seven, narrowly missed out 329 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: on the playoffs, made the playoffs in two thousand and eighteen. 330 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: He helped kind of guide them whether the storm through 331 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. He is such an incredible leader and 332 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: the leadership that he brings is great, and he's talked 333 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: a lot a bit about a lot about recently. You know, 334 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: it's hard in this virtual landscape to cultivate a culture 335 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: in that sense, but a lot of the position coaches 336 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: have talked about the meetings that they've had with players 337 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: just kind of start out with talking. Guys are just 338 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: kind of talking, catching up, getting to sort of know 339 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: each other one on one or in group settings. And 340 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: that helps right now because that's really all you can 341 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: do at this point. But if you can cultivate that now, 342 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: even virtually, it will pay dividends in the fall. All 343 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: tonor last question for me is what do we have 344 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: to look out for as far as the new stadium 345 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: is concerned and the fall? What give us a preview 346 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: of what to expect. Yeah, it's it's a palace first 347 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: and foremost. And uh, it's one of those places I've 348 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: talked to so many people throughout the all season. You're 349 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to go a few different times to really 350 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: see all the bells and whistles and everything it has 351 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: to offer. Um, but to see it being built, and 352 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: we've been seeing it built over the last few years. 353 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: To see it kind of come to its conclusion here, 354 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: it's really exciting because obviously we're gonna look forward to 355 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: Chargers football, but this is gonna house so many different events, 356 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the Olympics, um National Championships. It's really gonna be a 357 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: hub for for sports in Los Angeles. And then you 358 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: have the story line when the Jets go to town. 359 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: Sam Donald's a homecoming for him. You channa new Wosu 360 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: on the other side is former teammate at USC. I 361 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: always look for those fun storyline, so you know, I think, uh, 362 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: when when the Jets come to town, obviously it's gonna 363 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: be a thing where it means a great deal to 364 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: both teams. As a f C games, such a big 365 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: deal in terms of getting playoff positioning, so we're looking 366 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: forward to the hosting the Jets e A. After talking 367 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: to both Haley and Chris, I think what stands out 368 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: to me is the talent that the Chargers have on defense, 369 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: and if you're game planning against this unit, I figure, 370 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: as of right now, you might have to target the linebackers, 371 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: even though they did just add Kenneth Murray, but it 372 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: feels like their linebacking corps might be the weak link 373 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: of the bunch. I don't know if you agree with that, 374 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: and maybe the interior defensive line, but they did just 375 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: signed lin Vaal Joseph, so I don't know. I feel 376 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: like it's it's hard to figure out how you attack 377 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: this Chargers defense that has two great pass rushers a 378 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: very good secondary. It just feels like the linebackers might 379 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: be the wing, the weak link there. Yeah, the Charges 380 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: need a media contributions from those free agent pickups, uh, 381 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Chris Harris in the defensive backfield, the veteran cornerback and 382 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: you just mentioned Lindvold Joseph because what you want to 383 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: do is obviously free up those guys on the exterior 384 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram and the Charger sect totals 385 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: weren't there overall last year. Uh yeah, I do think 386 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: you gotta put some stress on those linebackers. And while 387 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: the Chargers do feel mighty good about Kenneth Murray, he 388 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: is going to be in his first season. I'll tell 389 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: you what this safety matchup and you brought it up. 390 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Durwin James Jamal Adams. Different players, but they both are safeties. 391 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: They can make it a long day for the opposing offense. Uh, 392 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: opposing offenses. So that's gonna be fawn mutual respect there. 393 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: I remember the Pro Bowl, uh, not this recent one, 394 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: but going back following the two thousand eighteen season, and 395 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: they spent some time together. Uh. Different body types, but 396 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: both have the common trait that they can make it 397 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: a long afternoon for you. Yeah, I feel like I 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: feel like this is another unit that maybe doesn't get 399 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: a whole lot of love. But Joey Bosa and Melvin 400 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: Ingram together, I mean, how do you how do you 401 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: even go about attacking or game planning against this Chargers defense? 402 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: Because if you try to take away Joey Bosa, well 403 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: now you're dealing with Melvin Ingram. If you try to 404 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: take away Melvin Ingram, now you're dealing with Joey Bosa 405 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: and you factor factor that in with the jets new 406 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: look offensive line. I think maybe one of the benefits 407 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: here is the Jets will have tough tests prior to 408 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: playing this team, like Chandler Jones against the Arizona Cardinals, 409 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: like Nick Bosa and the rest of that forty Niners 410 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: defensive front in week two. So hopefully that those weeks 411 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: prior will help the Jets in this situation. In Week six, 412 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: it feels like, yeah, it feels like on and on right, 413 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: And then when we go to week four, we talked 414 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: about Von Miller and Bradley Chubb. Uh. You know when 415 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: Hayley mentioned that that the a f C West is 416 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: loaded with guys on the outside who can get to 417 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Uh, And the names immediately come to mind, 418 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: of course are in Denver and with the l A Chargers. 419 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, they do have talent. But this is a 420 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: team to watch because that's a monstrous step in transition 421 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: when you take Rivers away, because not not a shot 422 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: at the talent of Teller or they forementioned justin Herbert, 423 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: but he was such a big presence within that organization. 424 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: And I have much respect for Anthony Atlanta. Uh, this 425 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: team is going to be interesting to watch though. How 426 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: are they going to respond to that, because it's a 427 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: lot different once you get to the field, and it 428 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: could hurt them very much. Here's another team that is 429 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: going through Uh, you know, every team in the National 430 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: Football League, as we continue to say, they're not getting 431 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: on the field in the spring. Well, if you're breaking 432 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: in a new quarterback, whether he's a veteran or not, 433 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: you need as many reps as possible. So that could 434 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: really hurt them early in the season. Yeah, and we'll 435 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: see what happens. And of course the Jets have an 436 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: advantage in that department with Sam Donald being in his 437 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: second year in Adam Gates system. So we'll see what 438 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: happens at SOFI Stadium. But that was another edition of 439 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services, the 440 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: Opponent Preview series taking a trip to the Super Bowl 441 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: champions Next, we're talking Chiefs and Jets on next episode 442 00:23:54,480 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: of the pod. Sever