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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie and this is Keyon, your favorite

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Speaker 1: Okay Storytime host and we've got great stories coming right up.

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Speaker 1: But before that, we have a quick two minute break

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Speaker 1: from the sponsors that keep this show alive. My girlfriend

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Speaker 1: wanted to be a professional magician, but she's awful at it.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna leave a mark.

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Speaker 1: I twenty four male love my girlfriend. Let's call her Emma.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six female. Emma and I both met at a

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Speaker 1: college party about five years ago when we were both

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Speaker 1: dragged to it by more popular, well adjusted friends. I

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Speaker 1: found her on a couch, pretending to act busy by

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Speaker 1: it off after a few minutes of awkward small talk,

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Speaker 1: spending the rest of the night talking about how much

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Speaker 1: we hated the establishment of cool people and thought parties

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Speaker 1: were for the sheep of human beings. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this comes from a magical throwaway and if you want

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Speaker 1: Okay Storytime subpured it.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Ian Michael Sheller, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm Carly, and please welcome everybody. Ian Michael Sheller he's

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Speaker 3: a magdition based on Hollywood Boulevard. With a unique background

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Speaker 3: in music, theater, and film, He's performed in off Broadway

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Speaker 3: productions in New York and worked on experimental film in

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Speaker 3: Barcelona before his unexpected journey into magic. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: being here today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for thank you. Wow, and Ian.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna help us read some of these stories and

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Speaker 1: give some advice and also maybe do a little magic. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: fast forward two years later and we're living together. After

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Speaker 1: bagging groceries for most of my life, I graduated with

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Speaker 1: one of those sheep that I talked crap about at

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Speaker 1: the party we got together, Emma, Well, she's the atypical

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Speaker 1: nerdy girl. She loves her anime, fantasy books, tabletop games,

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Speaker 1: and above all else magic. And I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter magic here either. I'm talking about the Act

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Speaker 1: of Illusion. The worst time we ever slept together was

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Speaker 1: after she did a ten minute performance with the Deck

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Speaker 1: time she had performed for anyone but her parents and cat.

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Speaker 1: That's I guess the perfect time to do it, and

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Speaker 1: that kind of led her to falling in love with me.

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Speaker 1: I cheered her on if she wanted to be the

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Speaker 1: female David Blaine or whatever, why should I stop her.

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Speaker 1: I was doing graphic design, also being a virgin when

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Speaker 1: I met her at the time, I was thinking more

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Speaker 1: or brain. Wow, I guess people do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure. The sad fact is that Emma sucks at magic.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm wondering if the first time she performed

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Speaker 1: for him, he just like didn't care. He was like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: the magic is great.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got to bite your tongue if.

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Speaker 1: Ye's something else coming. I suppose that card trick that

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Speaker 1: led to us hooking up she failed every time she

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Speaker 1: asked if it was the card I had picked at

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Speaker 2: You like Well, he did say he was thinking with

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Speaker 1: Yes, gosh, have you ever had someone lie to you

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Speaker 2: I mean you could tell when they lie. She's a

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Speaker 1: So he's like, I could help you design some cards.

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Speaker 2: That's about it. That's a good thing, though, that's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've lied my entire relationship to her about her magic. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that seems like a bad start to a relationship.

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Speaker 1: Outside of her magic, I've never lied, not even once.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to her biggest passion, I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not proud to admit I contacted a second cousin

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Speaker 1: I have attempted to steer her towards different dreams. She

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like the best relationship. You just think that

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Speaker 1: She just isn't talented ouch. She's just an artist, and

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Speaker 1: her parents, Them, like me, are also too nice to

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Speaker 1: when we talk about it that we both know that

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Speaker 2: There's layers of deception here everywhere that I as a

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Speaker 2: he did say, he meant, there's so many layers here.

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Speaker 2: support other endeavors. Right, Yes, but she was bad at all?

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Speaker 2: What about like magic classes?

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Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: I think, when you're in this is going to make

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Speaker 1: Here, folks, Okay, we want it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you do love someone, you do have

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Speaker 1: I agree completely. I think I'm a type of person

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Speaker 1: And my boyfriend's very good. We talked about this earlier

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Speaker 2: But wasn't there that time where you had to see

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Speaker 2: it down. Yeah, yeah, he's in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fortunately I saw him drum before we got together.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so I already knew he was in Toronto. YouTuber.

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Speaker 1: We were friends. Yeah. Yeah, we're friends for like seven

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Speaker 2: I mean, this dynamic though that he's talking about, it

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Speaker 2: she's no good at this. But the further you extend

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Speaker 2: that deception, that's when the mirrors crashed down, one by

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Speaker 2: one by one. He said years? Did he say years?

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Speaker 1: I think he said years.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, Well, I mean please, I mean, but there's

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Speaker 1: A lot of people who you know, are professionals in

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Speaker 1: They like put a lot of effort and time and practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, would it be out of the realm

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Speaker 2: I love that you love this. Hey, why don't we

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Speaker 2: study the other sides of magic, Because it's not just

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Speaker 2: the tricks, there's other there's all this other stuff, right, scripting, And.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, oh,

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Speaker 1: to break the news to dor. But there is a

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Speaker 1: little bit left to this story. Do you have any

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Speaker 2: You know? When I think about this story. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I don't know what my two CeNSE equals here, but

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Speaker 2: I would say, be honest, but channel her love for

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Speaker 2: the art, and that way the deception can slowly disappear

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Speaker 2: and she can keep doing it. But I don't keep

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Speaker 2: putting her up there to fail. If that's how it's

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Speaker 1: I completely agree. It's just so sad for her and

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Speaker 2: Don't do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And also I think really embarrassing when she does

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you see someone that's not good, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't you feel little like why why are they doing it?

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Speaker 1: Why hasn't anyone told.

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Speaker 2: Why isn't anyone told them?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Help them?

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Speaker 3: Or?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you believe people are beyond help?

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Speaker 1: No? I don't think. I think there are certain skills

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Speaker 2: There is nothing wrong with just being honest, because you

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Speaker 2: you could just sit there now. I just met you today,

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a crunch bar, because it was so good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my goodness, Oh wow, I love that trick because

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Speaker 2: Thank you, you're welcome, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Great start, Tomory, Yes, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: what was the moment you realized you wanted to become

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Speaker 2: We don't have time for this story. So my grandfather

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Speaker 2: I found a teacher who was a professional magician. The

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Speaker 2: just kept doing little things to see do I like it?

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Speaker 2: Shall I continue? Pandemic hit? So I did a virtual

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Speaker 2: That was how it kind of came around full circle,

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Speaker 2: half circle. So I wasn't planning ever on being a magician,

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Speaker 2: but it's actually what I've always been. But I never knew.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so thanks for that question.

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Speaker 1: Of course, No, it did. That's I feel it's so

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Speaker 1: interesting that you've had so many different like, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, it's weird. It's like, but when you're not getting fulfillment,

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Speaker 2: it's you know, I've only known like really being creative,

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Speaker 2: and he hobbled over to the kitchen sink and he

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Speaker 2: like Grandpa performance art. So for a while I thought

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Speaker 2: it was probably a card trick. It was probably a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can feel like we've heard that one too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the wonderful thing about magic if you

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Speaker 2: Everyone had them, right, coins.

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Speaker 1: Very accessible, excess exactly.

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Speaker 2: The rope tricks were clothesline, so spongeballs were actually sponge

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Speaker 2: There's great books out there, great books, but then there's

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Speaker 2: to make sure that teacher is nurturing. Sure, you do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you need someone to be honest.

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Speaker 2: To hear right, But you also need you do need

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Speaker 2: a nurturing kind of thing. That's so important with everything,

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Speaker 2: both wonderful and then go out and perform. Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: were so many things about magic I never knew we're there.

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Speaker 2: Almost like with stand up comedy, you think, oh, they're

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Speaker 2: and you don't have to be an amazing show person.

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Speaker 2: It helps. But I would say books, I would say,

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Speaker 2: That that's always a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always the first step. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I this is the business.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting question, and interpret it. I got

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Speaker 2: to tell you something, Sophia, let do. So this was

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Speaker 2: And there was something about doing children's parties that's carried

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Speaker 2: right through to the adults, and it's that the children

436
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: have no worldview. They think a door or a light

437
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 2: is magic, and because of that, their version of reality

438
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: is constantly expanding and contracting. So if you are not

439
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 2: besting their energy, they will find a tree or shade

440
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: of light to look at or something like that. So

441
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: I guess to answer that question, you have to be

442
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: well rested, hopefully, you have to know where you're going

443
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: within your routine, so to speak, but keep it organic

444
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: enough that the audience will not you know, it won't

445
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: become mundane. So direction or misdirection where we're directing people

446
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: and their minds, it's handled through rehearsal and doing it

447
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: again and again and really using any tactic possible that

448
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: is safe for human consumption. You know, to to keep

449
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: everyone in the show, keep everyone collaborating and doing attention exactly. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

450
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: We have actually a lot of questions.

451
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: Wow, this is so therapeutic, I feel.

452
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a trick go completely wrong on

453
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: stage and how did you recover in the moment?

454
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely. It's like if you're boxing. So I

455
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: box for a long time, you know, just in the gym,

456
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: and sometimes they'll be like, hey, ring, I know, it's

457
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: it seems ridiculous, which is I don't do any really

458
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: of those things anymore. It's all focused on magic, which

459
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: I've never I never wanted to focus on anything. Excuse me,

460
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: but I had to. Yeah, I had to because it's

461
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm finely comfortable in my own skin. I never told

462
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: anyone I was a musician when I was doing music.

463
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: I never felt confident enough even when I was doing

464
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: those things. But you know, when if you're going into

465
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: a boxing ring, you're gonna get hit a little bit.

466
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: Even if it's just practice. You're going to be a magician,

467
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: Chances are something's going to go wrong, whether it's you right,

468
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: or it could be an audience member or the things

469
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: people say. You know, but when it goes wrong, there's

470
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: something interesting that that can happen. They know it's gone

471
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: wrong most of the time. Sometimes they don't, and you

472
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: could do another trick within the trick to get out

473
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: of it. You could create your own trapdoor. And I've

474
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: been lucky enough, you know, for that to happen. But

475
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: if they know it's gone wrong, and you know, they

476
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: know it's gone wrong, if you just cop to it

477
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: and say, ah, you let your guard down and they

478
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: realize you're human and it's all good and you just

479
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: go on to the next thing, that's really all it is,

480
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: like you know that old saying and acting. If a

481
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: prop falls, just pick it up. Yeah, it's like that.

482
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: So Savannah and I aren a sketch show and we

483
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: just had a show on Saturday. And in one of

484
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: the scenes, I'm supposed to have a knife and our

485
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: other co star also has a knife. And I realized

486
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: the second that I walked on the stage that I

487
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: didn't have the knife. I'm like, oh no, and so

488
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: I just went you got it. I just finger gunned.

489
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: And it works because he was you know, yeah, he

490
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: yes handed me because we all met at an improv school.

491
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: But nice, Yeah, so it worked out. But yes, you

492
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: just keep.

493
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: Going improv I'm telling you right now. I mean, that's

494
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: the life saver right there. That's the life saver if

495
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: you if you know basic improv skills.

496
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: It has helped me a lot.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. So you went with the gun, Interesting said,

498
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: did you have to fire it?

499
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: I did fire it just.

500
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: To stick up. I went, okay, lazy, Yeah you.

501
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Got that sound effect, I actually said, I went, I

502
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: just kind of did it, but there was no sound

503
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: effect attached to it. So but you know, he went

504
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 1: with it and it worked out. It's a very short sketch,

505
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: so uh, it was fine.

506
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

507
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: And then I and then I'm supposed to stab myself

508
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: at the end, kind of a Juliette, you know, ending,

509
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: So I just he like threw up the knife and

510
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: I caught it. So it worked out.

511
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Speaker 2: Hey, that sounds like a good team you're on.

512
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: I know, that's great.

513
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm now thinking about when I work at horror nights,

514
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: I'm a haunted house actors sometimes and we were given

515
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: prop weapons one time and I could not hold on

516
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: to this one.

517
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: It was raining all night and I just kept dropping

518
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 4: it and people would walk way past and be like,

519
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 4: that's not supposed to happen. So we figured out this

520
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 4: way where if someone accidentally dropped it, we like kicked

521
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 4: it over to the other person and they like jumped

522
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: up with it.

523
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: It was nice.

524
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: That is so funny, and that's how you do.

525
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: Next question, what's the weirdest thing an audience member has

526
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: ever said or done in response to one of your tricks?

527
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm just refreshing myself. I sometimes I get dehydrated. All right,

528
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Weren't supposed to see that. I'm sorry, Sophia.

529
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: Can you repeat that question? I was enjoying a creamsicle.

530
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm so sorry. What's the weirdest thing an

531
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: audience member has ever said or done in response to

532
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: one of your tricks?

533
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Gosh, I wish, yeah, I wish I could remember

534
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: all the wonderful things people have said. And typically if

535
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: they say some kind of explanation, there can be curse

536
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: words those are great, yeah, or just you know, exploratory.

537
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of things like that. And there are

538
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: even lines. You know, A very common tactic in the

539
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 2: craft of magic is if you're doing a show and

540
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: you hear a good line, you put it into the show, right,

541
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: You roll it into the show and you carry it forward.

542
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: And there's been tons of stuff like that. I'm sure

543
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: tons of stuff I've forgotten. I can't even give you

544
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: a specific one. Yeah, but there are different tricks I've

545
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: found that illicit different reactions. And this might be too heady,

546
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: and I apologize if this is too petty, but I

547
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: do believe when I'm doing my show, I try to

548
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: attack attacks not the right word, but I try to

549
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: hit different parts of the body. So something that might

550
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: just affect your mind, or something that might be for

551
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: your eyes, or something that's like sort of a whole

552
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: body effect, because then sometimes mouths will just drop open

553
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: quietly and you'll get silence, and you want that at

554
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: least once in a magic show, you also want wow or.

555
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: You know so.

556
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I try to make a variation of that.

557
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: But luckily I get a lot of different responses. If

558
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: I do a show and I don't hear at least

559
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: three or four different responses, I know, I gotta go home,

560
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: take my notes and figure it out and figure out

561
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: what went wrong.

562
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: You're like, that wasn't enough. Yeah, have you ever used

563
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: magic in everyday life to get out of an awkward

564
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: situation or impress someone? Outside of a performance. No, okay,

565
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: so you need to be using it more outside.

566
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: I it's weird because they say a magician is the

567
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: most honest like person you'll meet, because they say they're

568
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: going to fool you, and you go to pay a

569
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: ticket to and they will fool you hopefully.

570
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

571
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: I don't really, you know. So there is casual magic,

572
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Meaning if I meet someone

573
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: and they happen to stumble upon, if they don't see

574
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: me in this, but they my son might. My son

575
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: always loves to out me. He's like, he's a magician.

576
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: We were on the subway once and I have my

577
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: cards with you and I and three gentlemen young men

578
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: were like, hey, what do you do with those cards?

579
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: Right away? My son Max was like, he's a magician.

580
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: So right away I'm doing magic on the metro and

581
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: it worked because they lost their minds. But that feels good.

582
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I.

583
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Don't use it to subvert, meaning you know, I don't

584
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: know never.

585
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Savannah just said, officer, this is

586
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: your ticket. Yeah, And I think this might be the

587
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: last question. Do you have a favorite type of magic? Well,

588
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: the actual question is if you could only perform one

589
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: type of magic for the rest of your career. You

590
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: can also answer it as just your favorite one. But

591
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: here it says card trick, stage illusions, mentalism, close up,

592
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: et cetera.

593
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: A lot of people ask me, especially at the Magic

594
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: Castle where I'm a member, Hey, what kind of magic

595
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: do you do? Yeah, And I always say I do

596
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: magic for people, and that's everything. So it sounds like

597
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: cop out now, but I think all magic, whether you're

598
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: using coins or mentalism or stage, whatever it is, it's magic.

599
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: And I'd be happy if I was stuck on a

600
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: desert island and I only had a couple coins. Well,

601
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: I guess that's what I'd be doing, or maybe it

602
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: would be just something that's mental oriented or more verbal.

603
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: I think too that you know, a long time ago,

604
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: if you trace magic backwards, a lot of the older

605
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: magicians were mixing everything all the time on their programs. Again,

606
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: I think to get that kind of variety. But then again,

607
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: there are some wonderful people crafts, people in magic where

608
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: they will just sit down with a deck of cards

609
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: and they will destroy you in the best possible way.

610
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: So I can't pick. I will just say whatever it

611
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: will be is what I will make magic with Yeah.

612
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: That's a great answer, thank you. And that was our

613
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: final question. So I feel like a good ending line

614
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: and we're good for that next story. Yeah, we're going

615
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: to get into the next story after Yeah, so yeah,

616
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: we'll get into the next trick. Thank you for answering

617
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: our questions. You a great answer, your wonderful host that

618
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: I need to add more variety.

619
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Speaker 3: Me and Sophia get the magicians because we're the most.

620
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: Like oh my god, yeah, yeah, no one else is.

621
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I'm always I was shocked.

622
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: We I was in a magic store with or in

623
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: a toy store with Keon right before Jonathan came on,

624
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: and I like saw a magic kit and I was like,

625
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: oh my god, like look at magic. And he like

626
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: he made a comment at me and he was like

627
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: magic and I was like and he was like, don't

628
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: tell me you were a magic kid, and I was.

629
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Like, I love ma.

630
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

631
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of like Pedan Teller as a

632
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: kid are.

633
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: The best Vegas show?

634
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: No go. I know I've only been to Vegas twice.

635
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: I know I haven't seen any magic there. I saw

636
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: once we went for an event for this show, and

637
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: the other time it was my took me to see

638
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: a Grateful Dead show. Hmmm, not a Grateful Dead fan though.

639
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: Obviously your ex y.

640
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: No longer. But I think we're ready for the next three.

641
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite goofball host here, and we're

642
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: going to get back to the stories.

643
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. I

644
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: accidentally ruined a street performers magic run. Yeah. Today at

645
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: the boardwalk, my boyfriend and I were going to get

646
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: some ice cream after having a few drinks alone. Man

647
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: standing by himself with his magic setup approached as we

648
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: were walking by and immediately started asking us if we

649
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: would stay to watch a trick or two. We were

650
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: trying to walk away. He said after one trick that

651
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: if we hated it, we could go ahead and leave.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Unique Throwaway fifteen and

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Speaker 1: if you want to smit your own stories, go to

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Speaker 1: the r slash Okay, storytime subpured it.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, and I'm Ian.

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Speaker 3: Michael Sheller and I'm Carly and Ian I'll throw it

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Speaker 3: back to you for an intro this time.

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Speaker 2: I'm I and Michael Sheller and I am a professional magician.

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Speaker 1: M HM, and Opie says, reluctant to be rude. We

660
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Speaker 1: stayed literally everyone else was passing him by, and he

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Speaker 1: started his show, which we realized as he began was

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Speaker 1: all about audience participation. Well, I feel like all tricks

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Speaker 1: are as. He starts doing card tricks and telling jokes.

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Speaker 1: He keeps calling to passerbys to join in, but no

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Speaker 1: one else is biting. He sees a group of three

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Speaker 1: women approach and asks me to come up and help

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Speaker 1: with the next trick. The girls get roped into staying

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Speaker 1: with the same visual discomfort and sheepishness we had. It

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Speaker 1: makes me stand next to him while he hands one

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Speaker 1: of the girls a very thin paper bag with something

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Speaker 1: in it does a neat thing with two Rubik's cubes

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Speaker 1: being the same pattern. After I switch them up and

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Speaker 1: he touches them, he asks to touch my shoulder during

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Speaker 1: this trick, which I still don't get in terms of

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00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: the trick. I guess showmanship. He says, don't freak out,

676
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: which puts me off, but I'm dissociating at this point

677
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: and ready to wrap this up. The cubes match and

678
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: we all clap, and he says, wait, there's more This

679
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: is when the f up happens. He takes the bag

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00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: from the girl and hands me the paper bag with

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Speaker 1: a different cube in it. It's very thin and the

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: cube feels a little heavy at the bottom. He asks

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Speaker 1: me to hold the bag closed with two hands gently

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Speaker 1: and then emphasis, shake it like your mama majia. That's

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Speaker 1: a quote. I don't really know how to compute this

686
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: combo of words other than whole bag closed, shake, so

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00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I do it pretty hard. The bag immediately busts open,

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Speaker 1: and the third Rubik's cube goes flying onto the ground,

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Speaker 1: and the little colored squares break off everywhere. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a Rubik's cube break before, so I'm wondering if

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Speaker 1: this is part of a trick. But now the mood

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Speaker 1: changes on a dime. And this is where he could have,

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Speaker 1: you know, done what you were saying earlier, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: anything else. He's getting mad and the girl watching peace out.

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Speaker 1: The second he starts talking, he loudly yells after them,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for tipping, He says to me, thanks

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Speaker 1: for ruining my act. Shows over. You better go ahead

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Speaker 1: and pick those pieces up, all of them. This is

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Speaker 1: a very strange interaction. My boyfriend and I are a

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Speaker 1: little dumbfounded, but we start picking up pieces because we

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Speaker 1: feel bad and don't know what else to do. Do

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Speaker 1: you have any thoughts for a piece?

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Speaker 2: I have so many thoughts. Again that the layers here

704
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: are first of all, street magicians. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 2: have a ton of respect for street magicians because that's

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Speaker 2: you're a magician on the street. Yeah, And sometimes the

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00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: audience can be dangerous in the fact that right you're

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00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: on a street, there is no clear demarcation of audience

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Speaker 2: where this begins, where this ends. And it sounded I

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Speaker 2: don't know, you may agree, did it sound like the

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Speaker 2: magician was a little pushy in this situation, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm here. You know, maybe was going for the tips.

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Speaker 1: Too hard, I think so. I think his plan was

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Speaker 1: probably to bring OPN and then be like, okay, where's

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Speaker 1: my tip. That's why you used to right.

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Speaker 2: So Yeah, it's funny because we were talking about this

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Speaker 2: when something goes wrong, but on the street, when it

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Speaker 2: goes wrong, I feel like it's even it could be chaotic,

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Speaker 2: it could be and then it is true she mentioned this,

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Speaker 2: the audience member will feel bad if you're working with

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Speaker 2: them on something, yeah, and something goes wrong. They'll say.

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Speaker 2: I've had people say to me, oh, I'm sorry, that

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Speaker 2: didn't work, or I'm sorry, but I'll say no, no,

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Speaker 2: that's not that's not you, that that was me, or

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00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, to try to take the heat off. But

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Speaker 2: you know, Rubik's cube tricks are very popular. But in

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Speaker 2: that I mean, I feel like in that case, like

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Speaker 2: she automatically picked up the prop and felt something was

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Speaker 2: not right there, and then to.

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Speaker 1: Me it feels a little scammy like maybe he was

731
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Speaker 1: did it on purpose or something like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if any magician, though, even if they're skewed,

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Speaker 2: would want to lose prestige in that way. But we

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Speaker 2: don't know. It's a little bit left please.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully hopefully not. He still's going off and sour. My

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Speaker 1: boyfriend tells him, all right, man, sorry, we're getting out

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Speaker 1: of here, and then he calls us ales for breaking

738
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Speaker 1: the cube and not tipping him. This whole thing was weird, embarrassing,

739
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: last way I wanted to end nice boardwalk date on

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Speaker 1: our day off. I didn't apologize to the guy at

741
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Speaker 1: first because I didn't understand at the moment what had happened,

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Speaker 1: and by the time I did, he was already verbally

743
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: aggressive to the point where I just wanted to leave.

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00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Should I have done something else? Tipped? Am I the

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Speaker 1: A hole?

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Speaker 2: You know? It's funny, Sophia. That's how I end every show.

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Speaker 2: I say, thank you A holes? Yeah, wow, yeah, I mean, no,

748
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: walk away, don't tip, especially when.

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Speaker 1: Someone's getting aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's when I mean. And there are amazing

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00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: street performers out there. I sometimes wonder because as a magician,

752
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: and they say, you have to find your audience or

753
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: find your venue. Right. You might be good at performing

754
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: in clubs, you might be good at performing in I

755
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: don't know, weddings. Some people are great performing on the

756
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Speaker 2: street and they can gather a crowd organically and then yes,

757
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: they're so good that they passed that bucket at the

758
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: end and the tips just come in. There is a

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00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: wonderful story about Penn and Teller about the early days

760
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: of when they would do street magic and the amount

761
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Speaker 2: of money they would bring in that was all cash

762
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Speaker 2: was incredible. And but when someone is that, when they're

763
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: coming to you, I feel like that it's tough. Even

764
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: when as a pro, when I'm hired and I'm sometimes

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Speaker 2: approaching someone, they they think I'm just working for tips

766
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: or because it's not like you're wearing a badge saying

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00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: I'm here right, Although I did a gig where they

768
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: gave me a like a what's like a tag, like

769
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Speaker 2: an ID tag, but still it was dark in some

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00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: parts and they're like, hey, we have to pay you

771
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 2: like no, no, I'm with the event. So I think

772
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: that that can be challenge Jing. But man, I don't.

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00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I think whatever they did was okay.

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00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you were fine. Op, I don't. I

775
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: don't think you're the ale in this situation.

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00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: Not at all. Yeah, yeah you can't. It's hard when

777
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: people put that on you too. Sometimes you might be

778
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: blamed to be an a whole in other situations in

779
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: life and it's it's not you.

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00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 1: No, you didn't even want to be there. Walk away.

781
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that's rough, but that is the end of that story.

782
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: Well, I have something else it brought to show you.

783
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: Yes, please we the wine again? Or do you want

784
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: me to stay close?

785
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

786
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: Stay close all right, but we will go back and forth.

787
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: Yes, because again, well Sophia, you helped us with the

788
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: first one, should carly the second one?

789
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm over here.

790
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: You could do it right from there? You do it

791
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: right from there. But we're going to help Carly do it,

792
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: of course, Carly. Today, did someone text you or call

793
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: you or yell across the street Carla? Did they say

794
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: you are right?

795
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: They say you are right?

796
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: Did someone tell you are right today?

797
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's told me that today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's going to change here now, Sophia. When I

799
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: make the magical Renaissance gesture, and that's what this is

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00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: to Carly, we will turn to her and we will say, Carly,

801
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: you are right. Let's practice. Here we go, Carle, you

802
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: are right? Did that feel good? Should we do it again?

803
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: Or that was good? Okay? Sometimes people want us to

804
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: do it more than once. Carly. There are four cards

805
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: here in my hand. Imagine they are queens. There are

806
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: black queens and red queens and a deck of cards.

807
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm taking out two queens of the same color. Whoop, now, Carly?

808
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: Did I take out the red queens or the black queens?

809
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the red queens.

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00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Carly, you are right. If I take out this unbelievable.

811
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: If I take out the red queens. We have two

812
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: of them. There's the Queen of Hearts and the Queen

813
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: of diamonds. I'm turning one of them face up and

814
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: I'm putting it in here. But Carly, did I turn

815
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: up the Queen of hearts or the Queen of diamonds?

816
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say hearts.

817
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: Carly, you are right. That means we have to see

818
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: the queen of hearts here? Is that right? Yes?

819
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: It's here.

820
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. You must have seen, Carly. You were

821
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: so right. This queen of hearts here, it's from another pack,

822
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: and Carly, she was so right. There are no other

823
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: queens here at all. Carly, one more time, I think, Carly,

824
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: you are right.

825
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: Guys, I'm magical. How did you do that? I'll never tell.

826
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: There you are?

827
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, God, Carly, I don't know how you

828
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: do it. It's it's just a talent I've been training. Yeah. No, no,

829
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Speaker 1: not all. Do we have any questions from anyone in

830
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: the Do we see anything from anyone in the chat?

831
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 3: The first one that I'm seeing is cowbot is God?

832
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: Did the guests bring enough candy and ice cream for

833
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 3: all of chat?

834
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Those are the rules.

835
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: Those are the rules.

836
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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite. Riley's girlfriend is here. We're

837
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: going to get back to the stories. But here's three

838
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: minutes of ads from our sponsors. My husband wanted to

839
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: start a restaurant for magicians and it's ruining our family.

840
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: Get out while you can.

841
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: I thirty two female, have been with my partner, thirty

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00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: six male, for eight years. We have a four year

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Speaker 1: old son and a two year old daughter. Our relationship

844
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: has been a little rocky, partly due to his highly

845
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: demanding job in the restaurant industry, but we love each

846
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: other deeply and always will. He has been the head

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00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: chef of a relatively successful restaurant for three years now

848
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: and is the only source of income for our family

849
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: since I left my job in the charity sector to

850
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: look after our children. By the way, this comes from

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00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: David Copperfield ninety two seventy three. And if you want

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00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: to smit your own stories, go to the r slash

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Speaker 1: Okay storytime suffered it.

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00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Ian Michael Sheller.

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00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: And I'm Carly And do you want to introduce yourself

856
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: one more time?

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00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: I sure do. Hi, I'm Ian Michael Sheller and I

858
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: am a professional magician.

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Speaker 1: And Ian's gonna help us read some stories today and

860
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: op says for the past four so months, he has

861
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: been floating the idea of starting a restaurant for magicians

862
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: with increasing seriousness and dedication. Is there our Does this

863
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: exist in la? Is there? I mean, besides the Magic Castle?

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00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: Is there like a restaurant dedicated?

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Speaker 2: There are?

866
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

867
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: I believe a few clubs okay, specialize in this magic

868
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: dinner food or DIRVS thing. Yes, there's a few of them.

869
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: There's precedent for this, Okay, Yeah, you're right. It is

870
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: not obvious what this entails, So I how to explain?

871
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: He envisions a restaurant which, unbeknownst to the general public,

872
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: is littered with magical props, levitating tables, bending cutlery, and

873
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: torn and restored menus, to name a few. The meals

874
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: served to customers can be requested to have particular playing

875
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: cards secreted inside secreted secret It's an interesting word to use.

876
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Secretion trick.

877
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't really want any secretion in.

878
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: My Jim, did you do the secretion trick in the car?

879
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: How such your food has been secreted to allow for

880
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: spectacular reveals? Wow? Interesting? And if you ask a waiter

881
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: to think of a card, he will always say the

882
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: seven of hearts. What the idea here, it seems, is

883
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: to allow for an environment where men on dates who

884
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: are in on the scheme are able to impress their

885
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: companions with seemingly spontaneous magic tricks requiring little skill, or

886
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: where amateurs magicians can go to perform relaxed, impromptu shows.

887
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to reserve my commentary on the merit of

888
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: this idea until later. I imagine you can guess, but I

889
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: should explain that my husband has never shown a remote

890
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: interest in magic until around four months ago when he

891
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: met his friend, who in this post we will call Chris.

892
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: Chris is something of a magic enthusiast, and since meeting him,

893
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: my husband has become encapsulated by this idea. I am

894
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: using this throway account because Chris is an avid Reddit user.

895
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: Over the past two weeks, Chris has convinced my husband

896
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: that he ought to quit his job and use all

897
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: of our savings to start this restaurant, which would burden

898
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: our family with an enormous amount of financial uncertainty. This

899
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: is I would be a little concerned about this friendship.

900
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: Listen, just a restaurant alone, Yeah, you better get ready

901
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: to work. What is that that margin for profitability is

902
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: incredibly low. Do we say what state this is or

903
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: we don't know now, so that can have an effect

904
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: on it too, right, But you're rolling the dice here, buddy.

905
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: I mean he's already a head chef.

906
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: I feel like he has it sounded good, right, like, hey,

907
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: he Scott. You know he's been doing a head chef thing.

908
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: He's been running his restaurants. Yeah, just add magic.

909
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: And I also feel like his angle is a little

910
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: strange because I think if he just went like I

911
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: want this place top magic and want performers and all

912
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: that stuff, that would be a better idea than the

913
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: date thing, which relies on secrecy. Yeah.

914
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: Well, if I may, Yes, I go for walks and

915
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: there's an empty restaurant. It's been empty for a while,

916
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: and always in the back of my head, I'm like, well,

917
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 2: one day I'll open this up and we'll have great

918
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: steaks and magic. You know. But when I've known people

919
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: for real that have invested in restaurants or in food

920
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: service and completely lost their hide.

921
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the barrier for entries.

922
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: And the thing that people don't realize and we'll probably

923
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: get into it more. When you add magic, you're adding shows. Yeah,

924
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: so that actually changes up the pace of how the

925
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: guests are treated and how the restaurant is functioning with

926
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: its whole what do you call that hosting people? So

927
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: there's a timing thing that has to happen that would

928
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: not normally happen in a regular restaurants.

929
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: You just want to get it out as quick as possible. Yeah,

930
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: but now it's like.

931
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: Well you gotta wait till he finished the secretion trip.

932
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: Can you get those chicken fingers the secreted yet?

933
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: Don't set it out? Oh yeah, no, it's concerned. We

934
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: had a huge fight about this two nights ago, during

935
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: which I said some things that I have come to regret,

936
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: insulting his restaurant idea, his cooking, and his new friend Chris.

937
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: Ooh wow, triple hit.

938
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we have a little bit left to this story.

939
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts again? This is I mean, anytime

940
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: you're like, hey, let me get into the restaurant business.

941
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: And maybe my new Jersey accent just popped out there

942
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: a little bit. There's so much happening there with permitting

943
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: are you going to have alcohol? I mean you're looking

944
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: at how many millions of dollars just to do that?

945
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: Part of it absolutely, and then when you're like it's listen,

946
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: it's always great in our minds. And that's the wonderful

947
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: thing about magic, right, is that it takes our imaginations

948
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: and working together to make the trick happen. Right. But

949
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: when you do that with things that might bankrupt your

950
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: family for your whole life, that's when it starts to

951
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: get a little dangerous because if it's not, if you

952
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: don't look at the area, meaning what are people like

953
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: taking home? Do they have enough recreational income to visit

954
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: your establishment? And then what about the people working in there?

955
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: And this was something Actually when I started at the

956
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: Magic Castle, I didn't perform right away. I'd passed the audition,

957
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 2: was able to perform in many places throughout the castle,

958
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: but I I'd never been in a venue that had

959
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: a restaurant and bars that were all serving food. And

960
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: it was amazing to watch how people would come in

961
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: and then sort of go from one theater to the next,

962
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 2: and then also eat dinner and then go to another show.

963
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: And there's this sort of harmony that can happen and

964
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: sometimes not happen, depending on where the rush is at

965
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: certain times of like eating or the night. So it's

966
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: wonder I think it's great when anyone gets an idea

967
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: in their head, because it's wonderful in there. Yeah, it's quiet,

968
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: it works, you know, it's not it's there. You don't, right,

969
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: and it's just if you don't have the right plan

970
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: and the right finances, you don't, you know, you'll be

971
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: mortgaging your house and you can put yourself in some

972
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: serious trouble. Yeah.

973
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: I think my advice for her because of all of

974
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: that stuff is, you know, maybe maybe instead of going

975
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: the route of just you know, digging your heels in

976
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: and fighting, maybe just say, give me a detailed plan

977
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: of how you think this is going to work with

978
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: finances and yes, yes, and then let him realize this

979
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: isn't well.

980
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: The other thing too is And maybe she's sensing, wait,

981
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: he's not going about this right, especially when she's coming

982
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: at him that way. But what if what if you

983
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: just said, okay, we have a bar, let's get a

984
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: bar magician for a night. Yeah, see how that works.

985
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's already got he said the head chef. I'm

986
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: sure he could recommend.

987
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: And because the people coming there might not be thinking, well,

988
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: I want to I want some you know what what

989
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: level food was. This was this like nice food, nicer?

990
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: Is there a favorite dish you like when you go out.

991
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: Sofia, what do you like sushi?

992
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: All Right, So they might be thinking I want my

993
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: you know, for me, it's like yellowtail belly and it's

994
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: sam And I'm not thinking, oh, I want to see

995
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: card tricks now.

996
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm focused on Yeah.

997
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: I want to I want to close my eyes and

998
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: dream about sushi. But so that might have something to

999
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: do with it too, what they're serving and then how

1000
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: they're entertaining. But if you introduce it in a small area,

1001
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: first you're not out a ton of money, and then

1002
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: it becomes a testing environment. You so right, going from

1003
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: zero to one hundred. Another thing magicians should never do.

1004
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get something you're like, oh, I want to

1005
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: try this idea. Don't do it, yeah, go practice it.

1006
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: So I would say, maybe just give it a little test,

1007
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: a little test of magic.

1008
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: I think that's great advice. Thank you, And there is

1009
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: a little bit left to this story. During this fight,

1010
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: my husband argued that he ought to be allowed to

1011
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: follow his dreams and that his idea is good because

1012
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Chris came up with it and Chris is a magician,

1013
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: and magicians are smart. I love that for him. This

1014
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: honestly does not seem like the man I fell in

1015
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: love with, who was creative but also pragmatic and level headed.

1016
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: His fixation on Chris seems to have massively clouded his judgment.

1017
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: And I don't believe it is possible to rely on

1018
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: this restaurant for magicians idea to feed our family A four.

1019
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: How can I convince my husband that this idea is

1020
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: bad without hurting him or damaging our relationship. He is

1021
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: incredibly sensitive about it and would seemingly jump through a

1022
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: thousand hoops to come to the defense of Chris, a

1023
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: person he did not know just four months ago. And

1024
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: I think we've you know, given you the advice that

1025
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: that you know might might.

1026
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 2: Help you out, Sophia. When I hear that line, yeah,

1027
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: because magicians are smart. Yeah, that's when you sound the

1028
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: alarm bell.

1029
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: Just yeah, it really sounds like he's just kind of

1030
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: eating everything this Chris guy is saying and not actually

1031
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: questioning anything.

1032
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: Again, the ideas run wild, they take over, and then

1033
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 2: you know the next thing, you know, you're reaching into

1034
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: your pocket getting another snack. It's all about refreshing yourself.

1035
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Sophia, you should serve these at your restaurants. I think

1036
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: that would be better.

1037
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: It's just good to get a little boost of sugar.

1038
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: I put it back in here, put it back in

1039
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: the box, back in a pocket.

1040
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: It's kind before we get to your final trick, which

1041
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: I really am hoping that has something to do with

1042
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: all the treats.

1043
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: Now I've realized a high high treat here. We started

1044
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 2: with a crunch bar. Uh no, well, the last trick

1045
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: might be a treat. You might view it that way.

1046
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: I think.

1047
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: So.

1048
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: It's very fast.

1049
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. Okay, but we do have I'm trying

1050
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: to see if we have any new questions. Oh we do, Okay,

1051
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: questions from our audience actually awesome. So we'll ask a

1052
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: couple of those and then get to your trick.

1053
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: Okay.

1054
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: People who were brought up on stage at a magic show,

1055
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: be honest, were you in on it? And deleted says

1056
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: I was brought up on stage by a traveling magician

1057
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: in a small town. He asked each of us to

1058
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: put something in a white envelope, and he'd guess what

1059
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: was in each envelope. I was just a kid and

1060
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to put in the envelope, so I

1061
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: picked up sunflower shells from the floor and put in

1062
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: a handful. He properly guessed everything, but he looked like

1063
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: he passed away a little inside when he guessed mine. So,

1064
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: mister magician from the nineteen seventies, I'm very sorry, replies says.

1065
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: If he guessed correctly, why are you sorry? Op He

1066
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: says he reached into an envelope and pulled out discarded

1067
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: sunflower seed shells that had been in people's mouths a

1068
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: few minutes earlier. That's unfortunate, but I guess he had

1069
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: guessed it correctly. I guess. I mean I'll ask a

1070
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: question based on that one. Have you ever had tricks

1071
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: where you brought people onto stage?

1072
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a big part of it. Typically

1073
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: I'll do something solo in the beginning, just to let

1074
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: the audience know that they're seeing someone who has some

1075
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: modicum of talent, hopefully.

1076
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1077
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: There is that expectation, you know, when you see a magician,

1078
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: they are they any good? Yeah, So if you let

1079
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: them know right away, in sort of the traditional way,

1080
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: Although some magicians go out and tell a story for

1081
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: three to five minutes about themselves and that works too,

1082
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: but stand up, you got Yeah, you got to bring

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00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: people up. And I think that again, that's where the

1084
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: fund's going to happen, because you don't really know what

1085
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna do when anyone's gonna do. If you're in

1086
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: a venue where they are serving alcohol as the night

1087
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 2: crawls on, the sort of focused thinking audience can become

1088
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: a drinking audience. That's a Jeff McBride reference. But then

1089
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: you have to adjust there too. But I quite frankly

1090
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: love all of them. Yeah, you know, I want to

1091
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: be in wherever this situation is. It's fine by me.

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00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: That smark of a good performer.

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00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.

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00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 1: The dude seven one one four four says My wife

1095
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: and I were at the Chris Angel show in Vegas.

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00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: I also, I don't know this.

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: Performer, great magician, Yeah, great masic.

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: You don't know I did, I don't.

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00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: Oh wonder Sophia, wonderful. Yeah.

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00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: It came time for audience members to be chosen to

1101
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: come up on stage after being selected via random tosses

1102
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: of paper into the crowd. My wife got one of

1103
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: the papers that had his logo on it and reluctantly

1104
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: went on stage. As he helped her onto the stage,

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00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: he whispered into her ear, just say no. He positioned

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00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: her next to the giant bed, and saw Blade commented

1107
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: on how nervous she looked, and then asked her if

1108
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: she wanted to take his assistant's place. She responded with

1109
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: the nervous no, and the audience laughed. He then went

1110
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: to everyone else he had pulled up on stage, did

1111
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: a similar bit, and walked each of them off the stage.

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00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen or heard of that? Like? What

1113
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that?

1114
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: So? She's admitted yeah, and shared that the magician was

1115
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: maybe bringing her into something, giving her more information, or.

1116
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Told her not to actually participate in.

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: That, right trick? Hmm, Well, I don't hear about that

1118
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: too much. Yeah, I'm curious to your thoughts of it.

1119
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: Actually, So fig oh, I feel like for the audience,

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00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's fun, but I guess, uh, I don't

1121
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: know if I would want to have a like a

1122
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: trick involving pulling people up. I feel like I would

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00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: want to give them a little bit more participation, even

1124
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: if they don't ultimately do.

1125
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you mean maybe if he did give some illusion

1126
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: of choice. Even that might have been because then she

1127
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: could have come off stage and said, well, he asked

1128
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: me a few things, but I went with no exactly,

1129
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: and maybe that's the way he wanted that to go, right.

1130
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: So sometimes you don't have that though, So maybe he

1131
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: just needed to be like, hey, you know, just you know,

1132
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: just say no. I mean, he's a really wonderful magician.

1133
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: And hopefully the show was good. Did you mention it? Yeah,

1134
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: it seems like the rest of the show is good. Yeah.

1135
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: EMU four oh four says my dad did once, as

1136
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: in I think got pulled on stage. I got pulled

1137
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: on stage, and he definitely wasn't in on it. He

1138
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: held onto a ball, which somehow expanded into dozens of balls,

1139
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: and opened a box and found his own watching there.

1140
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: That's an awesome trick.

1141
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

1142
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: And we'll just read one morek delete it says, not

1143
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: a magic show. But once went to a hypnosis show

1144
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: and in between shows, I saw the volunteers quote unquote

1145
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: all in a group and learned that they were actors

1146
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: from a drama call from one of the universities in

1147
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: my town. Yeah, have you heard about any plans?

1148
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts I believe I could reveal. The

1149
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: industry term is called stooge. Hey, if it works, it works.

1150
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: If you're an actor and you use onions backstage and

1151
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: you got to come on crying, Hey, if that's what

1152
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: you do, you do it hypnosis. It was a hypnosis thing,

1153
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: So I refer to that as magic adjacent, sort of

1154
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: like palm reading. You know, magic adjacent, right, But there

1155
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: are elements sometimes mixed in there. So to me, it's

1156
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: all fair game. I mean, and this gets into maybe,

1157
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: you know people who reveal tricks or people try to

1158
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: bust the magician. I heard one recently where someone said, well,

1159
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: that magician's dishonest. He said, he's reading their body language.

1160
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: He's not reading it. But it's like that if you

1161
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: say magician, I mean, that's performance they're supposed to, you know,

1162
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: saying is it an oxymoron? Is that the right term?

1163
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: So I don't get that side of it. But sometimes

1164
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: right the audience will just get a glimpse of something.

1165
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes it could be a move where you just see

1166
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: a glimpse of something you're not supposed to see. Sometimes

1167
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: it's that reveal. Maybe the magician wants you to go

1168
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: a certain way, and maybe it's like, hey, we're going

1169
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: to just stack the whole front row with the you know,

1170
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: drama club or whatever it is. So but if it

1171
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: works for the audience in they're fine, And ultimately, I

1172
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: don't these become fun stories to tell in a way

1173
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: and hopefully doesn't detract too much from the experience. Yeah,

1174
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: the experience, and and even I'm always thinking of the

1175
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: magician's prestige as well.

1176
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: I agree. I think I hear a lot of times

1177
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: like people always talk about whose line is it anyway?

1178
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: Oh what a show?

1179
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, great show, And I feel like I always hear like, oh,

1180
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: it was scripted, or like parts of it rescripted, blah

1181
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm like, at the end of the day,

1182
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: as long as the performance is entertaining, I don't really

1183
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: think there's.

1184
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with improv, I don't know if you

1185
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: have done this in your situation, but I remember with improv,

1186
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: just because you're doing it so much, you'll start just

1187
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: thinking of bits throughout the day and you'll have stuff

1188
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: ready to go. Oh yeah, it might not you might

1189
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: not use all of it. I don't know if that's

1190
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: scripting per se, But in the fact that you're in

1191
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: that mode of just you're in that flow of being

1192
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: an improvisational artist, and that that happens with magic all

1193
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: the time, where you're just in that And yeah, if

1194
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: scripted is like you wrote it, it's you know, it's banked.

1195
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's gray area we're talking about here,

1196
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: aren't we. Yeah, we're talking about gray area.

1197
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: I think as long as the performance is entertaining, that's it.

1198
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's what you want to take away. Yeah,

1199
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: but that was the last story.

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01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: All right, shall we do one more?

1201
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: Please?

1202
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: It's very fast.

1203
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited.

1204
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: So I guess this is a lesson in awful parenting

1205
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: because this is this is my son's this is my

1206
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: son's chure money. Yeah, one, two, three, four and five.

1207
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 2: And I always say to Max, Max, you might want

1208
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: to just become a magician because that is the way,

1209
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: the best way to make some money. And that's one hundred,

1210
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: that's two hundred, that's three, that's four, that's uh, I.

1211
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: Need to learn that trick.

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: That did that register?

1213
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: Your monk registered?

1214
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that.

1215
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, So.

1216
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Thanks for having me.

1217
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. That was awesome.

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01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: Would you like to give a final plug website, socials

1219
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: wherever people can find you.

1220
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. I want to thank the

1221
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: whole team here for having me.

1222
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming.

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: What a blast this has been. And yeah, my name

1224
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: is Ian Michael Sheller. My website I'm sure is up

1225
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: there in the chat. I think my Instagram is actually

1226
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: the same. It's at Ian Michael Sheller. Those are really

1227
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: the two things you probably need to know. And right now,

1228
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's been a blast in and around Los

1229
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: Angeles doing private shows. I've reallyhed in on. Doing the

1230
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: Magic House Show has really been wonderful because everyone puts

1231
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: their phones down and everyone gets together and we have

1232
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: a great time doing close up in parlor magic.

1233
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: And like you go to people's houses.

1234
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I call it now the Magic House

1235
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: Show because that's just what it is. And it's just

1236
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: been a blast. So I hope everyone had fun as

1237
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: much fun as I had because this was this was

1238
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 2: a blast today. And thank you so much. Check me out,

1239
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: you know, visit my site and say hi and support magic.

1240
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for coming in.

1241
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: Thank you