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Speaker 1: consumer Guy at Automotive we make garbine easier. Hi, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, a staff writer

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Speaker 1: here at how Stuff Works dot Com, with me as

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Speaker 1: always as my trustee edit Tricks. Candice Gibson. How's it going, Candice?

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Speaker 1: I gotta say I envy you a little bit there, Candice,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been so fabulous lately. My wallet keeps shrinking

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Speaker 1: and shrinking. Have you been to the gas pumps lately? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Those numbers keep climbing. But

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Speaker 1: it's not so expensive to feel my car because I

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Speaker 1: drive any seven. Well, I drive a big old Honkin

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Speaker 1: Volvo and it uses gas like you would not believe. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's think about this though. I mean, what if you

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Speaker 1: could put something else besides gas in your car to power,

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Speaker 1: you know, like sand or air, something that would be nice,

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Speaker 1: would be nice? What about saltwater? What do you talk about?

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Speaker 1: That's crazy? No, it's not crazy. Really. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: of this guy named John Kansias. You have okay, so

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Speaker 1: you have read the article. That's great, Thanks for that.

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Speaker 1: All right, well let's tell the people out in podcast

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Speaker 1: LAMB what we're talking about. This guy named John Kanzius

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Speaker 1: is this retiree in Florida. He's a retired radio broadcast engineer,

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Speaker 1: and he came up with this thing called a radio

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Speaker 1: frequency generator RFG is right, and basically what it does

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Speaker 1: is it takes radio waves and condenses them into a

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Speaker 1: beam and it's got all that has actually three applications

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Speaker 1: that they found so far, but one of them came

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Speaker 1: about when Kansias was tinkering with trying to desalinate water,

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Speaker 1: salt water, which could solve the global thirst crisis, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because not everyone has access to clean water, actually to

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Speaker 1: the tune of about two billion people, I understand. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh So he was trying to desalinate water using his

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Speaker 1: RFG and he had the little box trained on a

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Speaker 1: test Cuba saltwater, and he noticed that it sparked, which

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Speaker 1: is fairly unusual for water. Water does and burn. On

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Speaker 1: the contrary, water actually puts out fire exactly. So Kansis

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Speaker 1: has a little bit of this mad scientist spent to him.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a very curious fellow, and he likes

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Speaker 1: the paper towel and turns the RFG facing the test

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Speaker 1: tube agin and he touches the paper towel to the water,

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Speaker 1: and rather than the paper towel being put out by

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Speaker 1: the water, the paper towel exactly it basically it caught

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Speaker 1: the water on fire. And on fire it was. It

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Speaker 1: was burning it about three thousand degrees fahrenheit. It was

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Speaker 1: a pretty serious flame. Actually, yeah, so well, how does

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Speaker 1: this convert to fuel for our cars? Well, I'll tell you. Basically,

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Speaker 1: what Kanzius did inadvertently was to separate water into its components,

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Speaker 1: you know, hydrogen molecules and one oxygen molecules. Basic science.

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Speaker 1: We're all there, and we've known for a while that

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Speaker 1: you can use hydrogen as fuel. You can create an

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Speaker 1: electric charge from it, or you can burn it in

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Speaker 1: a combustion. Is hold on because hydrogen fuel is potentially dangerous, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Hindenberg that exploded. Actually, the

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Speaker 1: Hindenberg has been kind of latched onto by people who

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Speaker 1: aren't all about hydrogen e g. The big oil companies. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a fallacy. Actually, the Hindenberg explosion.

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Speaker 1: It was a blimp held aloft by hydrogen. The static

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Speaker 1: spark caught the hydrogen on fire um and thirty seven

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Speaker 1: people ended up dying. The problem is is thirty five

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Speaker 1: of those people died by jumping to their deaths. Most

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Speaker 1: and unharmed. And that's because hydrogen is actually the most

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Speaker 1: lightweight of all the elements, and so it floated upwards.

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Speaker 1: It's lighter than air exactly, and it burned upward actually

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Speaker 1: too away from the passenger compartment. That's not to mention

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Speaker 1: that the Hindenberg's outer skin was coated in a rocket

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Speaker 1: fuel and a really highly flammable Yeah, that wasn't too conducive,

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Speaker 1: it was. So the Hindenburg is probably not the best

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Speaker 1: thing to point to to say hydrogen fuel's dangerous, right,

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Speaker 1: It's it's not that dangerous. The problem with this type

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Speaker 1: of hydrogen fuel, salt water fuel, essentially, is that it

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Speaker 1: has a negative net energy ratio, and so to create

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Speaker 1: this type of salt water fuel, you're actually putting in

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Speaker 1: more energy than what you're getting out exactly, and what's

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Speaker 1: the point. I mean, speaking strictly from an energy standpoint,

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Speaker 1: you might as well just use the gasoline that you

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Speaker 1: get this gas gallons worth of energy from, rather than say,

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Speaker 1: of energy from. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: You can't get something from nothing, And Cansius isn't the

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Speaker 1: only person to run into this stumbling block. Hydrogen could

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Speaker 1: be a really legitimate fuel. I mean, it packs a

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Speaker 1: real punch and its emissions are nothing but water vapor essentially. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's probably the cleanest burning fuel. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: only other thing that's cleaner is electricity, and if you

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Speaker 1: follow electricity back to its origin, electricity is created by

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Speaker 1: burning coal. So really hydrogen would be cleaner. But there's

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Speaker 1: that negative net energy ratio and keeps stopping up. When

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Speaker 1: are we going to figure this out? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I've written a couple of articles on it so far.

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Speaker 1: One is a good salt water fuel cars and the

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Speaker 1: other is is hydrogen fuel dangerous? And they're both pretty interesting.

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