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Speaker 1: My guest is the writer, director, and producer for the

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Speaker 1: fourth season of Tyler Perry's Satima, premiering on BT Plus.

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Speaker 1: He's an award winning filmmaker, writer and director for My Own,

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Speaker 1: My Own Down Houston, Texas, renowned for his emotionally gripping

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Speaker 1: narratives the tackle complex social issues. Please welcome the Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass. Courtney Glaude, How you doing, sir? Got

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Speaker 1: to see right now? G got to make Louisiana Louisa boy.

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Speaker 1: Louise had a boy. Tell me Louis I had a background.

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Speaker 1: You're in Houston, Texas. Tell me a little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 1: Are we get started, Claude.

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Speaker 3: So, I was born in I was born in Houston,

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Speaker 3: but my grandmother from Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: They moved.

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Speaker 3: We're part of louis Ava lat Okay. Yeah, I tend yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So my family was raised and born in Lafayette. My

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Speaker 3: born in Houston, and I've been raised in Houston.

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Speaker 2: Fifth Ward. I was born in fourth Forward.

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Speaker 3: So no, no, no, it was just it's just it's

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Speaker 3: been the journey and just the cultures, you know, coming

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Speaker 3: together created this, okay, which.

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Speaker 2: Is really great.

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Speaker 1: And congratulations on being a director, writer, producer for the

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Speaker 1: fourth season of Teamer which is on BT Plus. Now

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Speaker 1: this was always hurt. Tyler Perry writes all his content,

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Speaker 1: He directs all his content. He doesn't let anybody do anything.

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Speaker 1: And then I heard about you. Is this a rumor

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Speaker 1: or he's allowed other creative sources to come in and

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Speaker 2: Tell me about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's absolutely opening up. He was building a foundation.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think Tyler was doing it because he

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Speaker 3: had to. At that particular time, and then once you

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Speaker 3: get used to doing something, you're not like, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: keep doing it as long as you can. And now

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Speaker 3: his brand and his his reach is so big. Now

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Speaker 3: he's opening it up for other creators like myself to

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Speaker 2: And take that torch and move it forward.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I have uh he's leanned over Tatima, his

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Speaker 3: show Sisters and also the show Ruthless. So we were

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Speaker 3: projects that I'm doing over there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the team. Yeah, okay, now it's

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Speaker 1: a teama. And one thing I noticed right out the

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Speaker 1: lead is full fit. Now let's go to stereotypes. I

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Speaker 1: did Monique and I one of the the Monique sitcom,

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Speaker 1: and I know you did some work with Monique as well.

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Speaker 1: That really was your breakthrough project. But Monique, I really

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Speaker 1: loved doing that show because the first time where black

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Speaker 1: women who were full figured weren't made and they were

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Speaker 1: about they looked good, they felt good, they dressed good.

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Speaker 1: You know, it really was a pro positive for overweight women.

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Speaker 1: And so I've always had that. I grew up with

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Speaker 1: when women who were full figured got stereotyped. They were

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Speaker 2: There they was with nobody.

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Speaker 1: And when I saw this series, which is, like you said,

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Speaker 1: going into the fourth seasons, I was really impressed that

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Speaker 1: they chose that direction because I believe it's been successful.

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Speaker 1: This is just my thought because of the lead being

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Speaker 3: You know, in spite of what the figure like, she's

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Speaker 3: a very relatable person. She is a magnet of people

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Speaker 3: her personality. She has a show called Keep It Positive like,

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Speaker 3: thought of Taler. I think that he saw the talent

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Speaker 3: I don't even think people haven't even really seen how

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Speaker 3: I t wasn't Queen Latifa on Living single right, What.

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Speaker 2: Was you talking about mind, I'm talking about ninety nine. Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: When I was I was writing, directing, doing sitcoms, and

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Speaker 1: a comedic background. Monique yeah, Monique yeah, and so and

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Speaker 1: her weight because I thought it wasn't fair. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the easy way out. That's right to her strip, which

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Speaker 1: is a talent that successful articuling and smart black woman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so when I look at a team, tell my

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Speaker 1: my audience, what is the show and what excites you

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Speaker 1: about the show.

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Speaker 3: So the show is about a character named Zach and

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Speaker 3: his girlfriend named Satima.

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Speaker 2: I know, Fatima, Fatima Zach for lack of a better words,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a little bit out of it, a little

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Speaker 4: bit out of that, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he is.

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Speaker 3: He's a little crash out, but but he loves it.

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Speaker 3: He loves this girl. So it's it's about Fatima and

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Speaker 3: Zach and they just collabored the name with Zatima for

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Speaker 3: for the show's sake. But it's about their relationship and

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Speaker 3: their hardships that come out and the things that they

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Speaker 3: it actually tackles real problems that go on within a relationship.

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Speaker 3: But it showed how strong a relationship can be and

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Speaker 3: go that that third line of what love looks like

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Speaker 3: nowaday and age and it just really I think it's

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Speaker 2: Can let me ask you you this is a romantic show.

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Speaker 1: It's is seriously about Zach, who is a little a

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Speaker 1: little he's very funny, but it very talented comedy character

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Speaker 1: as a team of kind.

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Speaker 2: Of like is that that's that? That that rock of Gibraltar?

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Speaker 1: You know, she's everything steady because you can't have too

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Speaker 1: crazy people, for sure, otherwise it's not relatable. Hues the

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Speaker 1: because we all.

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Speaker 2: Have a Zach and our family for sure for sure.

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Speaker 1: And that's what it is, okay, And we always say,

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Speaker 2: How does he work well? Because he has her in

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Speaker 1: Talk about your background that Tyler Perry has given you

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Speaker 1: the tools to the car to be the writer, director,

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Speaker 1: producer of the fourth seasons.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, the one thing that he does is Tyler equips

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Speaker 3: you with like so when Tyler brought me in, he'll

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Speaker 3: throw you in the fire like, hey, you like the team,

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Speaker 3: get in there, show go ahead. But he also gives

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Speaker 3: you the two said. He teaches you about how does

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Speaker 3: he shoot at his speed? He Tyler is the type

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Speaker 3: and he walks you through that process like he didn't.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just like oh, day one, it's time to go.

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Speaker 3: He actually it's like Tyler Pierce Studios is like the

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Speaker 3: boot camp for creators. He gives you the ground and

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Speaker 3: it's the sandbox. But you just got to play with

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Speaker 2: Okay, let mesku you this cording.

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Speaker 1: So Tyler Perry got One of my clients is Sherri Shepard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and she says, Tyler is the Queen of King, the

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Speaker 1: Queen I apologize the King of one. Take yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: say I got it. Let's go, Let's go let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you the king of one tape.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I haven't learned that trick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I haven't learned that one. Yeah, that's his trick.

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Speaker 2: I haven't learned that trick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he wants me to because that trick

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Speaker 3: save a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Right right.

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Speaker 3: I ain't learned that trick. I just told him that

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Speaker 3: the other day, like I ain't quite learned that.

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Speaker 1: About two three of my me so so talk about

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Speaker 1: a producer and how Tyler Perry is producing things at

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Speaker 1: a very high level.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and how you said a shot, I have learned

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Speaker 2: that trick. Isn't that so much a trick? It comes

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Speaker 2: from experience, Yes, And.

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Speaker 1: I love little confidence that I got the shot.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And I know from a stand point of being a

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Speaker 3: So for me, when I'm writing, it's a blessing to

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Speaker 3: So then you got to get creative to figure out

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Speaker 3: what's generally next. The figuring out the shot is really,

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm talking to coordinate Claude Yes four season, the

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Speaker 2: writer for season he's proud of that fact being brought

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Speaker 2: on board. Yes. In the Tyler Perry.

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Speaker 1: Empire University, you have a deal overall this Yes what tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Audience? What does that mean? To have the words overall

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Speaker 2: deal don't mean?

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Speaker 3: What it means is Tyler has saw something in me

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Speaker 3: to say, Hey, I'm gonna pay for all your projects

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Speaker 3: whatever project you want to do. I'm going to fund

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Speaker 3: streaming and go sell it to a dream or whether

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Speaker 2: Plus all of that.

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Speaker 3: So he found something in me to say, hey, I

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Speaker 3: which is really really rare, and it's the first time

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Speaker 3: he's done it, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm so, it's a blessing to me.

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Speaker 3: It coming thank you to come in this position, to

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Speaker 1: Which is really important. But there's also the naysayer, Yeah

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Speaker 3: Then when you go from Houston, then it grows and

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Speaker 1: That's the beauty of success for sure, and the reality

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Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class with me

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Speaker 6: Rashaun McDonald.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people because you're an entrepreneur, you know,

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Speaker 2: What drives you? I have a daughter, so I don't.

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Speaker 2: So I don't. I don't feel like I work. I'm enjoying.

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Speaker 3: I'm writing like stories like I'm creating whatever I want

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Speaker 1: Now in this in your introduction, as I read the

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Speaker 1: Renowned for it's emotionally for your emostally gripping narratives to

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Speaker 2: To me and my listeners.

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Speaker 1: about the fourth season of A Team? Okay again, this

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Speaker 2: What you bring it to the table?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we know it's already on their is premiered, Yes,

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Speaker 3: So what I'm bringing to the Tyler already created a blueprint.

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Speaker 3: Let me not take let me not the blueprint was

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Speaker 3: there he already came to That's his show.

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Speaker 3: He created this, But I definitely take it on a

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Speaker 2: It says a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about how the process works, because it's great

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Speaker 1: to having a guy with as many hats as you have. Courtney.

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Speaker 1: How many episodes did you take that?

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Speaker 2: All right?

442
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: No, no, for this particular twenty twenty twenty? How does

443
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Speaker 1: that work? Do you do an outline of all of them?

444
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Speaker 1: Do you do a storyboard walk us through the steps?

445
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Speaker 1: You have twenty episodes? Do you present that Tyler Perry?

446
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Speaker 1: How does that work with this? Tyler trusted me?

447
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: So he was like he called me and literally was

448
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: like you like jam I was like yeah, yeah, I

449
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: like he was like alrighty, sures go ahead, So like right.

450
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: Now, okay, yeah, what did you say to yourself?

451
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: Because I love it? Now that's that's a big moment.

452
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: I got it, But you didn't really get it. No,

453
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it.

454
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Speaker 3: First, was like and I had never done TV, so

455
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 3: I'm like, hello, but dis Courtney, you called Maybe he

456
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: called the wrong maybe he dont the wrong number, and

457
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 3: I'm like hello. So then he when he got I

458
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: was like all right cool. So then my first thing

459
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: was I went back and watched the episodes to see

460
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Speaker 3: how it's formatted and see how it's done. Then I

461
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 3: definitely do an outline that goes to the producers because

462
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 3: they also there's a team of people that know this

463
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 3: story even still better than I do, because they've been

464
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: there from the beginning, so they know what Tyler's intent.

465
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Speaker 3: Tyler ain't fit to sit on the phone with me

466
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Speaker 3: for two hours talking.

467
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Speaker 2: He's not fit to do that. Yea, I'm gonna get

468
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Speaker 2: five minutes, and that's the movement. I'm gonna get five minutes.

469
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Speaker 3: So I talked back and forth with the production team,

470
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Speaker 3: and I also get approval from some things, like some

471
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Speaker 3: things I think I'm taking it too far. I'll be like,

472
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: what's your thing about this? And then he'll let me

473
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: know his thoughts on all of that. But then yet

474
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Speaker 3: absolutely you come up with a skeleton of what the

475
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 3: season is gonna be, and then you got to take

476
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Speaker 3: keep in mind what is each character are going to do.

477
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: It is a.

478
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Speaker 3: Twenty episode season, so you need to have something big

479
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: around episode ten because that carries everybody to twenty and

480
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: it's just you create these pivotal points for each character.

481
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: Now every episode, the same character doesn't have to have

482
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: this cliffhanger, but you have so many characters that he's

483
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: built you can kind of sprinkle who's dealing with what

484
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: within those and then honestly you start, you know, writing

485
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: it one by one.

486
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you, I'm a fan of Tyler Perry.

487
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: Nothing can get more crazy than the Oval.

488
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: The Oval is like lord and throw your hands up.

489
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Speaker 2: You want to bet that.

490
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to put no money

491
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Speaker 3: lunch for the team to bet that.

492
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Speaker 2: I love it.

493
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: I love we will see he does. He has take it.

494
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm the person that they toned down.

495
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Speaker 2: I love it.

496
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: I have set tylers and stuff to make him be

497
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 3: like what.

498
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Speaker 1: No, No, let's talk about the compound.

499
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Speaker 2: Okay. I go to the airport. I see Tyler Perry's studio. Yes, exit,

500
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 2: that's our biggest guy in Atlanta. Uh, describe to us.

501
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: I've never been.

502
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Speaker 1: On the compound, Okay, so your description to me of

503
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: what it is is going to be new to me.

504
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: But I know when COVID was happening here. He was

505
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: one of the first production companies to turn around Pride

506
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: for sure. And he does it really fast. I mean

507
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: he does a b a c shifts. You know, the

508
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: actors can come in, they be a project. It might

509
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: take six weeks, might take a week. With the way

510
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Speaker 1: he does that, how does it work? And describe to

511
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Speaker 1: us the compound of what Tyler Perrys studios looks like

512
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Speaker 1: and the experience.

513
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: So Tyler think of Disneyland for creators. That's honestly how

514
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: big it is and what's interesting about the It's probably

515
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 3: not where the actual studio sits. There's the studio probably

516
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: sits on a third of what's actually how much land

517
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: he actually has, and it's just continuing to build for

518
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: other creators. But it's like a Disneyland for creators. There's

519
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: every turn in every corner you turn, there is somewhere

520
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: to be productive. Back he has twelve studios that get

521
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: rented out by Marvel. I think they shot some of

522
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Speaker 3: Black Panther there. They shot some of Coming to America there,

523
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Speaker 3: I believe, So it's it's one of those.

524
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Speaker 2: Believe I think they were this Will Smith over there,

525
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 2: but I wasn't. Yeah, what's that Bad Boys that they

526
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: that was over there?

527
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it was around the same time coming

528
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: to America with filming, But they come and rent out

529
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: the studio, so then you have that portion, and then

530
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: you have his legacy portion, which is Maxineville, which is

531
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: where the media house is and there's a teams and

532
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: the things, so it's all it's like a it's like

533
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: a fairy land for filmmakers to where every corner there

534
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: is something else that you could be shooting. There's this

535
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 3: really cool spot that he has. It's a mansion, but

536
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: it's so each side of the hot on the lot,

537
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: there's a mansion with four different entrances, so every side

538
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: of the mansion looks like a totally different place. So

539
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: there's no back door, it's another entrance, another entrance. That's

540
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: so efficient because I can shoot in four different locations

541
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Speaker 3: in the matter of one like house, you know. So

542
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: that's how he thinks, and that's basically the compound is

543
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: where you can be really really it's a place to

544
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: be efficient, you know what I mean, it's it, but

545
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: it's it's incredible.

546
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

547
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm not gonna understand it because to my understanding,

548
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: there are sleeping corners there, yep. To understanding catering, yep,

549
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: it's fully twenty four hour foods available there.

550
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Speaker 2: Talk about that experience.

551
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's it's there for the creators. He

552
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: has everything that you need and honestly, he makes sure

553
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: that you're taking up and then the historic district. He's

554
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: taking care of the historic district. I don't think that

555
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 3: he can change the historic I'm not sure how that is,

556
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's.

557
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: A word that he is trying to build.

558
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: Kind of like if you've ever been to Tourist Park in Atlanta,

559
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, restaurants and all. Like you said, you use

560
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: the word Disney as an example. Yes, Like, as I've

561
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: been fortunate, I worked on Paramount Warner Brother lots and

562
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: you are driving these lots and you see homes, You'll

563
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: see streams that you'll see like you know, just like

564
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: blocks and it's like, okay, you can shoot on these

565
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: blocks and it looks like you're on a city street.

566
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: Are you in New York right? Or in Paris?

567
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: Right? That's all of those things to where he has

568
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: all the environments that you could possibly think of in

569
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: walking distance.

570
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: Okay, now let me ask you this because I know

571
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: I want to definitely give credit about when you work

572
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: with Monique, which was the which was the moment in

573
00:27:59,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: your career.

574
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: Here they really put you on the map? Correct about that?

575
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: So that was my first project.

576
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: It was an indie film, but Monique blessed me to

577
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: be a part of the project and it came out

578
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: on BT Plus and it was the number one film

579
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: on BT Plus and I actually think it still is

580
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: as of right now. I don't think it's done numbers

581
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: like I think it's The project was. It was called

582
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: movie called The Reading starring Monique. It was a thriller

583
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: and it Yeah, I think it came out like a

584
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: two years ago and it's still killing the streaming side.

585
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: So it did good. It honestly launched me off to

586
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: be introduced to Tyler in their nature because it was

587
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: on the streaming platform.

588
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, we've been rocking ever since.

589
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: That that that's that's that's the when I look at

590
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: you as a young town and I look at the

591
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: creative and you got at energy about you. Energy I

592
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: believe I was you float? You float in the room.

593
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Your goals and what's your future? What are you trying

594
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: to do in this business?

595
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: I honestly want to tell the stories that make people

596
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: talk after like.

597
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

598
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: We want to get I want to get to those

599
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: when I first saw Boys in the Hood. I think

600
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: me and my mom talked about that, like all the

601
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: way home. I like those stories.

602
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Speaker 5: I think movies, so I.

603
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 3: Want to I'm in this industry. I just want to

604
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: do compelling things. And I mean that word specifically because

605
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: I want people. I want my films to make people

606
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: feel something. Again, I think we've got into the mold

607
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Speaker 3: to where people are trying to make people laugh, trying

608
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: to make people scared, but not make people feel anything anymore.

609
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Speaker 2: I like that.

610
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: I want people to feel something, as if they feel

611
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: personally attached to the story that's being told. That's my

612
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: goal as a storyteller.

613
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Speaker 2: And you're from Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know we talked about the journey and the skepticism.

615
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: What is it now? My brother, oh you know, he

616
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: said love.

617
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: You ain't o you ain't always love everywhere you go.

618
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Speaker 3: That in Houston is growing. So even this project I'm doing,

619
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I'm shooting my first feature off of my overall deal

620
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: this October and so I'm taking it.

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Speaker 2: Back to Houston. Congratulations.

622
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Speaker 3: You know that we just got the Texas got the

623
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Speaker 3: film incentives.

624
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: From fifty million to three hundred million.

625
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Speaker 1: Yes, he's talking about which is inviting movie projects, and

626
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Speaker 1: I just Enchorge your own now going to Texas as well.

627
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: I think they changed that same in the California. A

628
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Speaker 1: lot of the studios are now going back to California,

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Speaker 1: and George is being impacted by that. But the impact

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Speaker 1: of what you making is an industry cannot be denied.

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Speaker 2: My brother, Thank you, thank you.

632
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Speaker 1: You got the like you said earlier, you got the

633
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: thirty minute project which tied to Dementia, that's going to

634
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Speaker 1: become a full lengthyvie feature.

635
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Speaker 2: That you're going to start production in January.

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: That's the one that'll probably be next summer. But the

637
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: one that we're doing, I have one before that.

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00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one that's going. Okay, casting, how did

639
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: you handle casting?

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00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 3: So I have a casting director, Clive Davis, and we

641
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: go through casting directors. But a lot of times, like

642
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: I'm still, I cast on my social media. Sometimes I

643
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: will post social media it is my name.

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: Courtney glauda everywhere that keep it simple, not Courtney dot dynamic,

645
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Speaker 2: the name Courtney Glad.

646
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Speaker 3: But I go through. I post a lot of my

647
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: auditions because I don't think Houston is also used to

648
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: seeing it. So I just make sure that I get

649
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: the word out that way. But even through the studio,

650
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: we cast through like the normal sight.

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Speaker 1: For another title casting director, you know, picking my own people,

652
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Speaker 1: my man. Fourth season of A Team Yes is a

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Speaker 1: right now, twenty episodes.

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Speaker 2: You put your stamp on it.

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Speaker 1: Overall deal, Tyler Peri Steels. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversations master.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 6: my show. Keep leading with your gifts, keep winning,