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Speaker 1: Am I they a whole for canceling my wedding after

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe that's bad. This comes from dumb pony who

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Speaker 2: says before you read my post, I am not from America.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, I am sorry if this writing is terrible,

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Speaker 2: but I'll do my best. For a background context, I

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Speaker 1: We had a daughter who was two when we were married.

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Speaker 1: I consider her my daughter in every way, and my

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Speaker 1: So I now thirty four female, have been with my

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Speaker 1: fiance Jesse, thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Male for eight years. My daughter Bailey, she considers Jesse

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Speaker 2: her father. Jesse mean what he's known her for the

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Speaker 2: past eight years. Yeah, that's yeah. And from that young

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Speaker 2: ye one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Jesse has never treated Bailey wrong at all, but knows,

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Speaker 1: always treated her sweetly and like a daughter. And I'm

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Speaker 1: currently six months pregnant. We are all excited.

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Speaker 2: Jesse told me how he wants to adopt Bailey after

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Speaker 2: getting married. That is amazing. This is adorable, so powerful.

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Speaker 2: I see nothing going wrong. I am nothing will go wrong,

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Speaker 2: terrified of the hammer that could be about to drop.

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Speaker 2: Do surprise her. We are getting married in August. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't say we are close to being done with everything.

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Speaker 2: But we did play in a big dinner. I didn't

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Speaker 2: invite my friends and Jesse's friends. Bailey was staying the

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Speaker 2: We were all catching up and having a great night.

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Speaker 2: What was that what I thought you like? Played a guitar?

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Speaker 1: I think it was the spring on the bear band.

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Speaker 1: You gotta play in the badge of with the hair

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Speaker 1: tier there. We were all catching up and having a

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Speaker 1: the topic of the wedding came up.

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Speaker 2: That is where things went downhill. It was all good.

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Speaker 2: We got to talking about our honeymoon. Were we were

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Speaker 2: going to bring Bailey because that was our plan. When

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Speaker 2: Jesse did say that he didn't want to bring Bailey,

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Speaker 2: which kind of shocked me. Wait, Bailey as in the

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Speaker 2: child of op that's fourteen, Yes, yeah, Op, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: Opeciance was going to adopt YEP is still and he

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Speaker 2: At the honeymoon, at the honeymoon. But it's weird because

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Speaker 2: they had both they had both agreed to it prior.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes and hope, he says, because we both agreed

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Speaker 2: to it. So I was taken him back from it.

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Speaker 2: She's like, why are you going back on your word?

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Speaker 2: He started going on about how he how we both

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Speaker 2: now need a real child.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Jesse, so good, Jesse, Jesse, girl, dude, Jesse was

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Speaker 3: doing so good flying Colors, and that just flew straight

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Speaker 2: Trash a plu f minus. I know, child, What the

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Speaker 2: fuck do you think she is? Any child? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: God, we don't have to pretend anymore to take care

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Speaker 1: of my stepdaughter who was never my real child. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: So to be clear, Opie's dead husband, yes, had a kid,

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Speaker 1: and then that kid when they were like when was

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Speaker 1: not oh PE's biological child. So basically Opee's dead husband's

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Speaker 1: and then the dead husband died at four.

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Speaker 2: I am confirming this, my daughter, I mean, okay, so

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Speaker 2: this is not biologically Opie's daughter, but like for all

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Why did I forget that word emotionally Opie's daughter, which

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Speaker 2: is absolutely correct, but just not the that's not the

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Speaker 2: biology easy thing to say, a crazy this is not

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Speaker 2: your what what do you do with this kid? Then

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Speaker 2: literally he said, stop pretending to take care of him?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean pretending to take care of what

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Speaker 2: are you talking about? Yeah? At this point all of

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Speaker 1: Wait, this is in front of other people, Yes, this

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Speaker 2: Idiot, Jassy, You're an idiot.

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Speaker 1: And they looked at him like he had something crazy

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Speaker 2: Now that he had to leave and I canceling the wedding.

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Speaker 1: That isn't honestly appropriate response, I agree. What terrifies me,

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Speaker 2: You told me you're going to adopt her. I like what,

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Speaker 2: I was not in shape to hear him. Oh he

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, totally fair honestly, that guy, like, I think

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is. It is deserved. It's deserved, his friend.

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Speaker 1: We've read stories where things responses were not deserved.

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Speaker 2: Deserved, Yes, this one is deserved. His friends did escort

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Speaker 2: him out for me and left with him a few

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Speaker 2: of my girlfriends stayed over just with me that night.

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Speaker 2: Was he drunk, curly? Was he on crack? Oh? No,

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Speaker 2: Jesse had been blowing up my phone so much wanting

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Speaker 1: I haven't told Bailey what happened, and just lie to

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Speaker 1: the wedding. I just want some quiet now and not

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Speaker 1: for everyone to be upset. But some of his friends

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Speaker 2: Me puzzled at this point. So am I the A hole?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I have so many thoughts. Yes, first

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Speaker 1: standing up for her daughter. Yes, literally, her soon to

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Speaker 2: And we will stop pretending to take care of her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's what And what does that even mean? Like

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Speaker 1: Went along with it, god forbid? Yeah, what does that

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Speaker 1: Is that the kid put up for adoption?

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Speaker 2: Literally? What else could would possibly mean?

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Speaker 1: What a crazy thing to say. Op is not the

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would absolutely agree. I'm like, I'm a little pissed,

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Speaker 4: Ooh, well this is a conspiracy theory without hats woo,

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Speaker 4: conspiracy theory with that, I think so because the friends

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Speaker 4: uh were like texted op and we're like, oh, you

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Speaker 4: think I'm wondering if maybe the friends kind of egged

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Speaker 2: That's a feeling you share with no one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm thinking maybe, I mean, maybe there's a

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Speaker 4: also this awful, but his friends egged him on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you real kid, dude.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, not the friends at this dinner, but like

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Speaker 2: His friends at the dinner turned around him and was like,

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Speaker 2: what are you talking about and escorted him out.

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Speaker 4: No, those were that was her friend.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that could have been like, all right, homie,

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Speaker 2: let's leave man. Yeah, let's let's get you out of

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Speaker 1: Let's kick back and get some few beers and play

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Speaker 1: Legend of zelbra Bro. Yeah, but let's get back by

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Speaker 2: Onto the update. I talked to Bailey much earlier than

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Speaker 1: I think that's maybe maybe when she's older, Maybe when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Yeah, I think I think that is a

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Speaker 2: Let us know in the comments below. But we've heard

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Speaker 2: from comments in the past. Faith always Saith share things

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Speaker 2: in an age appropriate way. So the fourteen year old,

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Speaker 2: maybe you say exactly what Sophia said, which is, hey,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that to me is like you are that is

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Speaker 1: interpret him exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well. Opie says, it broke my heart to see her

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Speaker 2: only she had been a better daughter. D literally, that's

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Speaker 2: that he would have not felt that way. I reassured

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Speaker 2: her that wasn't the case at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you by explaining this information in the way

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Speaker 2: You've set her up to fail. Yeah, I said that

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Speaker 2: Jesse was just an awful man and a coward. Bailey

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Speaker 2: She still misses him and she still calls him dad,

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Speaker 1: I am making sure that Jesse doesn't ever get in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, god God. He did apologize for not being on

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I see you in the comments. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I did tell Jesse's family everything, and my family both

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Speaker 2: Jesse's parents want to see Bailey. As she is their granddaughter.

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Speaker 2: Now that bro he's like even his parents. His parents

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Speaker 1: Protecting you, spooky robbers come, come, You're about to get possessed.

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Speaker 1: Exactly my possessions get possessed. You're gonna get possessed. Go

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Speaker 1: to the robber's house, rob his stuff and give it

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Speaker 2: Boom. I even plan on Jamie Lacks. My best friend

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Speaker 2: Rosie is staying with me, so we have a lot

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Speaker 2: of support on our side. Thank you to everyone who commented.

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Speaker 2: I am grateful. You are all great humans. Heart emoji.

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Speaker 2: That is my update and will probably be my last one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you again. However, However, we do have some medits,

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Speaker 2: some real quick edits. After that, everyone is asking me

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Speaker 2: people saying this is fake? I am not sure how

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Speaker 2: to prove it to you all, which honestly, I just

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Speaker 2: posted to update everyone here about my old account. I

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Speaker 2: I'm not from America. If you want to continue it's fake,

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Speaker 2: it's all over me and that's on me. Oh oh,

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Speaker 1: Fresh Mistake eighty seven and seventy eight says, so he

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Speaker 2: Sounds crazy, right, I was following the story, but this

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Speaker 1: Why would he out himself and why does every failed

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Speaker 2: I am just confused. Don't come at many people, Ope says,

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Speaker 2: That's what got me so puzzled. I didn't even know

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Speaker 2: The prize will be together and lean on each other's support.

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Speaker 2: Both families will be entangled for at least a few

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Speaker 2: to have sipulations in the co parenting agreement. Who deal

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Speaker 2: with that? Which OP responds, I don't even know. I

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Speaker 2: Carter said, it wasn't her first time cheating. I do

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, but like putting her foot down and

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Speaker 1: best movie.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I could see. Maybe it also seems like

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you have a case because we

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also you weren't married, so I don't think you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I imagine maybe there being some like

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Speaker 1: You know that could happen or whenever she wants exactly that. Oh,

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Speaker 1: been okay. But maybe he's like kind of having like

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00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: a mental break or something. I don't know, Yes, something

439
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: is yeah, I mean well because he's been he's been

440
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: cheating for two years.

441
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he just.

442
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 4: Wanted to break, like he wanted to end the relationship

443
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 4: and be with this person he was cheating on.

444
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: Maybe and he was like intentionally trying to sabotage it.

445
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: Or maybe he's one of the and he wanted to

446
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: say it to Ope so Ope could tell his affair

447
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: partner's partner, so he could be with you, a fair partner.

448
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: They like basically implode the relationship. And so he was

449
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: saying all of this on purpose. Oh, be with the

450
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: affair partner. That's some evil for d Chess, some very

451
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: evil for d Chess. You could be right, but you

452
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: know what else is right? But that we have one more.

453
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: Story, one more story, and I'm gonna give it to you.

454
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Would I be the a hole for skipping out of

455
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: my brother's wedding because he excluded my family from the

456
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: planning and my siblings from the wedding.

457
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: Seems like maybe these a reason. Possibly?

458
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm a thirty female with seven younger

459
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: siblings twenty five male, A twenty one male, and girls

460
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty eighteen and twins seventeen.

461
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 2: Big family.

462
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: Our large family is close. We've been through a lot together, strife, arguments,

463
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: but we've overcome them. All others around us look to

464
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: us as an example of how close siblings and parents

465
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: should be. We're also big on tradition and our culture,

466
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: so it sounds like they've been through thick and thin,

467
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: and our model citizens for what a family should be.

468
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong?

469
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: Nothing, but it does.

470
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: My brother Mark twenty five Mail was the cheapest sibling

471
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 1: among us. He would always ask us for money from

472
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: our parents and us. God knows what he would spend

473
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: it on, since he kept coming back and asking for more.

474
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: He never contributed anything to the household, even to buy groceries.

475
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: Really selfish.

476
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like cheap. That just sounds like a thief.

477
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: Sounds like a thief. I take your money and I

478
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: spend it.

479
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: Later last year, Mark got engaged the date for the

480
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: wedding was set for May. We were all so excited

481
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: to be part of the wedding. We joked about attire,

482
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: the playlist, or the reception, etc. Well, he asked her

483
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: parents for help paying for the wedding. They agreed to

484
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: pay more than half of the price since it would

485
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: be the first wedding of the household, and we later

486
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: learned that he dropped at least eight thousand of his

487
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: own money into the wedding. Turns out he wasn't as

488
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: broke as we thought. The man's been asking for grocery money,

489
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: but rough ak wedding?

490
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: What are we doing? What are you talking to be fair?

491
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: Weddings are expensive? That is also weddings are expensive.

492
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 2: Right.

493
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: One day we sat down to talk about wedding plans.

494
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: As we were joking around, Mark gave us a list

495
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: of things that would be done for the wedding. He

496
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: started mentioning catering, then collars, pretty tame. Overall, we nodded

497
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: an agreement since everything seemed normal. Then he told us

498
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: that all of his fiance already picked out and purchased

499
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: a dress. We as a family didn't see the dress

500
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: and still don't know what it looks like to this day,

501
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: and weren't there with her to try dresses on. We

502
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: missed that moment with her, So it sounds like maybe

503
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Op's a little upset that they didn't.

504
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: Get see the dress. They weren't included in on all this.

505
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the women of the family, including my mother, were

506
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: bummed that we weren't there for the dress fitting, but

507
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: we assured ourselves whatever dress was picked would be perfect.

508
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: It was their wedding day after all, so it shouldn't

509
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: be too bad. Right, One would think.

510
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: How bad could a wedding dress be? How bum?

511
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 4: Oh?

512
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: No, is this an ic you in the commons? Put

513
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: icee you in the comments? It's ic you.

514
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Bed Mark continued to list more things about the wedding

515
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: that he finalized. The venue he chose was a four

516
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: hour drive several states from our hometown, somewhere we've never been.

517
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: The officiator was someone we didn't know. He didn't know

518
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: them either, And the list of things that were set

519
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: grew and grew. We were more and more troubled. Then

520
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: Mark dropped the bombshell. The bombshell, Op, you and your

521
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: partner will be in the bridal party, and you didn't

522
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: know until my other brother also in the bridal party. Okay,

523
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: we asked, what about your other sisters. They're just going

524
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: to be in the reception part. Why aren't they going

525
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: to be in the main wedding? That's the decision I'm making.

526
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: What is the actual reason why exclude your siblings in

527
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: the white wedding. I saw someone else do that at

528
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: their wedding, figured I could.

529
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: Do that too.

530
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: We were shocked and unsatisfied with the answer. I was

531
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: in the wedding with my other brother, but not any

532
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: of the girls. The rest of the family was visibly upset.

533
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Where did this come from. I'm standing up for my siblings. Yes,

534
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: it's his wedding, but if my siblings won't be part

535
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: of it, I won't be either. I would include my

536
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: own family at my wedding. Am I wrong for doing that?

537
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: And there is a.

538
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: Updates and some additional information, but essentially what it seems

539
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: like is op is upset, Yeah, that their brother isn't

540
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: including the other siblings, the sisters in the bridal party.

541
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: So all the stuff leading up because it almost felt

542
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: like OPI was like taking shots at the catering and

543
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: everything else, that was just the information.

544
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: This is the true this is the like OPI was

545
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: like a little bit upset about all the other things

546
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: right right, right, and I'm getting like what I'm getting

547
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: right now is like op is a little bit too involved. Yeah,

548
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: that's a little bit what I'm getting. Yeah, what I'm getting.

549
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: But the issue is like the right all so uh,

550
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: OPI's brother is only inviting like the male part of

551
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: the family for his section of the like like the grooms, Yeah, people,

552
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: the groom the groom's party, grooms ben, the grooms, Yeah,

553
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: the groom's ben. So isn't that like a normal isn't

554
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: that like a normal thing to do. I want my

555
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: sister to be part of mine.

556
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, yea, I feel like, Okay, here's here's maybe

557
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: where it could get tricky. So I don't know if

558
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: you have to bring all the bridesmaids to the bacheloaurette party.

559
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: But let's say like the woman getting married like has

560
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: all her best girlfriends and all this whatever, and then

561
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: she's like, I don't really know your sisters like that,

562
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: and I kind of want to have this like last

563
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: hurrah with like just my friends, slash have this thing

564
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: that's just my friends. I highly suspect that it's the

565
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: bride that is behind this. Oh yeah, hundred percent.

566
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: But couldn't the brother just have his sisters and his

567
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: battle party? But maybe he's just like I just want

568
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: my brothers or in his grooms may.

569
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's party. Maybe the thing is like traditionally

570
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: or whatever, it's like, oh well, my party is the

571
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: grooms men. Yeah, it's only to do right and hers

572
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: is only the girls. What are we doing here? Yeah?

573
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: I would invite my sister, but like not everyone like that,

574
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: you know, be funny, like like have like have the

575
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: women in your groom's party also wear matching tuxes with

576
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: the guys. That would be freaking awesome. That would be

577
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: pretty fire. That would be awesome.

578
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: But like I also recognize that not like like not

579
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: everyone has that close relationship with their siblings, and so, like,

580
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't think there should necessarily be the expectation that

581
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: your siblings are part of I.

582
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: Mean, if they're like awful people, get them out of here.

583
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm kind of get them out of here, but

584
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: like maybe they're just you're not super close to your siblings,

585
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: so you don't want them part of your like bachelortte

586
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: party and bridal party yeah, maybe I don't have a

587
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: ton I mean, like already Opie's like inviting a couple,

588
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: but it sounds like there's a lot of siblings. So

589
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I think I'm kind of a coins

590
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: toss right now. I could totally see that.

591
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: I could very much see, uh, the groom and the

592
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 2: bride being the a holes and like excluding the sisters.

593
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: But also maybe the brother OP is like just kind

594
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: of doing too much and sticking his nose.

595
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: When getting the vibe that the brother OP is trying

596
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: to control the wedding a little bit too much. From

597
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: from like and like there might be some past traumas

598
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: or like the like like OP has seen the brother

599
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: take advantage of situations, and so there's like a built

600
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: up resentment. But I'm getting a vibe that a little

601
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: bit too much involved.

602
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm going either way right now. I need more information.

603
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm leaning I'm leaning a little bit towards but I

604
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: think we need more information, so let's get it additional

605
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: information perfect. I would like to offer some clarity about

606
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: what some of the comments have been saying, not to

607
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: justify myself, but to explain the culture behind everything and

608
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: why we're upset In my culture, it is cuss them

609
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: for the family of the man to plan and run

610
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: the wedding. All members of the immediate family are involved

611
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: in major roles, including the siblings. This is true for

612
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: all male children. If any members of the family are excluded,

613
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: it's a sign of animosity or hatred. Excluding family members

614
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: from the wedding party is like a middle finger to them.

615
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: So maybe there's some cultural context we're not understanding. There

616
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: has never been a wedding in our extended family where

617
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: none of the siblings or parents were involved, unless there

618
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: was some sort of malice behind it. My parents' wedding

619
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: anniversary included all my siblings and myself and the bridal party,

620
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: all the cousins we have got married with their families,

621
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: even traveling and paying for everyone to fly to another

622
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: country to attend and participate in the ceremony. Excluding the

623
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: younger girls would send a message to the rest of

624
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: the extended family that there is something wrong between all

625
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: of us. So there might be some some beef bruin.

626
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: From my observation, I haven't seen anything happening between Mark

627
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: and the other girls. We all get along just by.

628
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: We even live in the same house together.

629
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: That's great.

630
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is why we were insistent on the

631
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: reason behind why he wasn't including the rest of the girls.

632
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: It goes against tradition, and we see it as a

633
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: sign of resentments. And there is an update from three

634
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: weeks later. But does that context sway you at all?

635
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think I'm being swayed. I think

636
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I will now go towards the groom and bride being

637
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: the a whole. I think now with the cultural context

638
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: and everything that's come before, I am also that going

639
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: that way.

640
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, dang it, I was I was hoping we'd be split.

641
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: Now today I feel like i'm I think the cultural

642
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: context changes things, changes things.

643
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: And the fact that all of the other weddings have

644
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: had not just all the siblings, but like all the

645
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: cousins everyone else. Not that you necessarily should like if

646
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: your brother does your wedding one way, you should do

647
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: yours the same. But yeah, yeah, I'm maybe he.

648
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: Doesn't fuck with the tradition. Maybe it's just like it's

649
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: not animasi, it's just like, hey, I I'm I want

650
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: to do things my own way. Is that is that

651
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: a bad then?

652
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think he's doing that I think.

653
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: I think there's anima. I think it's for nefarious reasons.

654
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: I thinks for mischievous reasons.

655
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Speaker 1: Well, let's get into this big, juicy update and find

656
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: out what really happened. So this serves as an update

657
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: on my previous post that I made weeks ago. It

658
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: seems that because of recent updates, there are more details

659
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: that I need to include to summarize. I am a

660
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: thirty female with a large family, including two younger brothers

661
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: and four younger sisters. I made a post previously stating

662
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: that my brother Mark twenty five, was going to have

663
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: a wedding in May. He only wanted me and my

664
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: other brother to be in the wedding party and my

665
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: other sisters to be excluded. So to be clear, OPI

666
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: is a woman.

667
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed that.

668
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: I missed that though I forgot that she is a

669
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: sister that's being invited, but all of the other sisters

670
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: are not being invited. Yeah, which makes me even more

671
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: on her side. Opie actually deleted the initial post. There

672
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: are two reasons as to why I deleted it. The

673
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: original post one shame. It wasn't fun being called an

674
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: a hole by a lot of people. I felt bad.

675
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: I didn't like the criticism, and the emotions I felt

676
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: all the time drove me to do it. Two, I

677
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: knew that there was something more to it than what

678
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: I was writing. I posted too early, and from the

679
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: new information that has been brought up, I decided to

680
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: make another post who There was a paragraph that I

681
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: included about Mark being stingy with money. I explained that

682
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: everyone in the family got along, but Mark was always

683
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: asking for money and never paying it back and participating

684
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: in frivolous spending. I didn't realize until now that this

685
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: paragraph would have been more relevant. In the original post,

686
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I explained that he paid for half of the wedding venue,

687
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: so it was understandable that he would exclude people from

688
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: the wedding and go against traditions of including the whole

689
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: family and the party. He told us I just want

690
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: a small wedding. I don't have to follow traditions, and

691
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: we were angry and threatened to leave the wedding entirely.

692
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: Reddit called me An a hole for this. Initially I

693
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: would have agreed if it was just this information, but

694
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: but turns out he lied. Oh he did not contribute

695
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: a single cent to the wedding, not for the venue,

696
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: not for the catering, not for the DJ.

697
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 2: Nothing.

698
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: In fact, my mother Carol paid for most of it,

699
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: while the future in laws paid for half of the venue.

700
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: He said he paid.

701
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: He was bamboo zealing each side. Maybe right, Maybe he was.

702
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he was saying, like he's going to pay. Is

703
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: in like he will provide money, yeah, or he will help,

704
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: he will make sure money will be allocated towards it.

705
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't own that money. Yeah, yeah, but he is overseeing.

706
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: He's he's like he's like a hedge fund manager. Yes,

707
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: he's overseeing the Catholic exactly. He's a manager of the money.

708
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

709
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So maybe maybe he's not lying. He's just like

710
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna be taking I think he's lying. Carol

711
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: funded the clothes, the food, the MC seventy five percent

712
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: of the venue, and is still pouring thousands of dollars

713
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: into the wedding for more things. Mark is insisting on

714
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: demanding more things to the wedding, which includes excluding some

715
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: of our family from the wedding party. Meanwhile, he's not

716
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: paying for the parties, dresses, or suits. Once again, he's

717
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: expecting the rest of us to foot the bill while

718
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: he sits back and doesn't plan his own wedding. Sam,

719
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: you know what, beggars can't be choosers, choos on which

720
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: side on the mong side?

721
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 5: His side. Well, I feel like because he's asking for

722
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 5: more stuff, right, He's like, oh, let's do this, let's

723
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 5: do this, let's do this, and it's like, bro, we're

724
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: already paying. Both sides of the family are paying for it,

725
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 5: not you. Well, so how can you ask for more?

726
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: He's basically saying you need to pay for your own

727
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: dresses and suits, which I think is a normal thing

728
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: to have people pay for in a wedding, right.

729
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: I have heard. I feel like I've heard like a

730
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: bride buying matching dresses, so that way it goes with

731
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: there's like like a theme that maybe ties to the

732
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: wedding dress or just like the theme in general. I

733
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: have heard of that before. I don't think it's like

734
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: comp never happen, but I don't think it is. I

735
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: think it is very normal for people to buy their

736
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: own stuff. Yeah, I don't know, Okay, I'm kind of

737
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: like going back, dude, we're just kidding here. On the spectrum.

738
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: Once again, he's expecting us to foot the bill while

739
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: he sits back and doesn't plan his own wedding. He

740
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: won't even let Carol invite people she wants, even though

741
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: she's paying and her guests wouldn't break capacity. It is

742
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: his wedding anyway. Carol can't take it anymore. She's stressed

743
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: having to do this herself. I've seen her and my

744
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: father cry out to him. It doesn't even seem worth

745
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: it anymore.

746
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? And the mother is Carol?

747
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: And Carol is the one who funded the food the

748
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: MC seventy five percent of the venue and is still

749
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: pouring thousands into the wedding, which is what initially OPI

750
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: thought that the groom, the brother was providing right, like

751
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: he was paying for that out of pocket.

752
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the mom, No, yeah, just the mom.

753
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. In fact, my mother, Carol paid for

754
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: most of it. So it's the mother that can still

755
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: paid for most of it. Yeah, it wasn't the I

756
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: think we got that mixed up. It wasn't the other family.

757
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Other family got you? Who is the mother got you

758
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: so and so?

759
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: To clarify, so the mother's paying for a bunch of stuff,

760
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: wasn't there someone else that was helping pay for things

761
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: or am I misremembering?

762
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: Well, who's paying for the other twenty five percent?

763
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering, right, I thought there was

764
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: a mention of the I'm confused.

765
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't see anything. Wait, he did not contribute a

766
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: single cent.

767
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.

768
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: My mother Carol paid for most of it, while the

769
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: future in laws paid for half the venue he said

770
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: he paid for.

771
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: Got it. So he he lied and said he was

772
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: paying for it when the in laws were paying for Yeah,

773
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, go off the clothes, the food, the MC Okay, okay.

774
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: So basically everything that he said he paid for the

775
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: in laws paid for.

776
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: Yes, which makes sense. All right, all right, now we're

777
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: on the same page. So is OP the a hole?

778
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: I would say no, because the groom lied and but

779
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: maybe it's the money allocation thing.

780
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: Why did he lie though? That's weird. That's an indicator

781
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: to me that he's being mischievous. Yeah, because you wouldn't

782
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: say like you'd be like you'd be like, hey, I'm

783
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: going to do it this way. The in laws are

784
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: are covering it, you guys aren't, And I want to

785
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: do it this way because you're not paying for the

786
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: whole thing. That's very different than being like, I am

787
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: paying for this, so I want it this way, right,

788
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: which is what he said in order to like get

789
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: him off his back.

790
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: Right.

791
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the lie, because like you would, what you

792
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: should say is like, oh, don't worry, my fiance's family

793
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: has it, and you wouldn't say no, I have it, yes,

794
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: so me.

795
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Maybe he's not an a hole for making everyone buy

796
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: their own dresses and suits or whatever else.

797
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: But I think the a hole for the lie, a

798
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: whole for the why, and there are some relevant comments

799
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: so complicated, you're the a hole slash everyone's the a whole.

800
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: The fact that your mom's paying doesn't mean that she

801
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: gets to make all the choices. If her love and

802
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: support are conditioned getting her way, she shouldn't have offered.

803
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: She is just loan sharking. If your brother isn't so

804
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: close to your siblings, he shouldn't have to include them

805
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: in his party. He may have other people he wants

806
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: to include, and you are certainly a lot of siblings

807
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: and acting awfully entitled. Same goes for your mom inviting

808
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: her friends. The party is not about her. Why is

809
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: that hard to understand? I agree with this but I

810
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: think the cultural context kind of does play a factor,

811
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: does play a factor. Yep, it's Mark's wedding. He and

812
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: his future spouse should invite whom they want, should have

813
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: the parties they want. And if your mom and siblings

814
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: can't handle this not being about them, they need a

815
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: reality check. It's sad how all transactional you are so like.

816
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: I agree, it's their wedding. I think it is complicated

817
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: because of tradition. But just because something is traditional doesn't

818
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: mean that someone has to buy by the transition correct

819
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: or he doesn't have to buy into the tradition.

820
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tradition might be dookie and push might be

821
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: doing Why are we doing this.

822
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: Exactly the opionds. My mother is paying for more than

823
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: half of the venue and everything else in the wedding.

824
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: She and Mark made a list of people who were

825
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: included in the wedding, including people she wanted to invite

826
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: that were approved by the two of them, and he

827
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: is now deciding to take back his word. The in

828
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: laws are being treated with priority and everyone on that

829
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: side is being catered to and invited. Meanwhile, we're being

830
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: left behind. Marked lied about paying for things, He lied

831
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: about the invite list, and he lied about the venue.

832
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: And then Maddie Kett responds, any clarification, are the other

833
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: siblings invited to the wedding and just not in the

834
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: wedding party or not invited at all? And Nopie responds,

835
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: all the siblings were invited, but at first my brother

836
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: purposely left them out of the wedding party. It took

837
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: his fiance and other members of the wedding party to

838
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: let the rest of the siblings be in the wedding.

839
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: In that regard, oh, there was room for all of us,

840
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: and the clothes for the party are being funded by

841
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: my mother, but he decided to not include us initially.

842
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: So and then someone says, why is that a problem?

843
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: What is wrong with just being a guest? And that

844
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: is where this one.

845
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: Wow, the whole thing benito.

846
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Actually that last response from am Ope, I feel

847
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: like filled in all of the gaps and knowledge that

848
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: I needed to know.

849
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: So I would say, definitely the a hole that it

850
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: wasn't the it wasn't the bride, it wasn't the fiance.

851
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: It was him that was excluding the sisters because he said, like, oh,

852
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: eventually his bride to be got them to be in

853
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: the in the bridal party, right, but initially he was

854
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: like trying to kick him out. So he's lying about

855
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: using the funds, he's going back on his word on

856
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: the approved guest list of his mom's friends. He's trying

857
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: to kick his sisters out of the wedding.

858
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: He's not getting you said, okay, actually not kicking out

859
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: to push back a little bit, push push me, So

860
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: like he is not kicking his sisters out of the wedding. Yeah,

861
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: he is not having them be part of like the

862
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: bridal party, which I think is a little bit different.

863
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: They're still going to get total and just because some

864
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: one's paying for it doesn't mean, like I think it's

865
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: really at the end of the day, like we said

866
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: many times in the show, it's your wedding, it's your party.

867
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: You get to decide who gets to be there. If

868
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: someone is paying for it, I still don't think like

869
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: they get to invite whoever they want. Maybe you don't

870
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: like certain people that they want to invite, and you

871
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: wanted to be like you're close friends, you know. Ook

872
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: fair fair, But then you have to tell them when

873
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: they present them you can't approve them, and then go

874
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: back and disinvite them.

875
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: That's that's the the issue.

876
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: But like, like, are you saying maybe conspiracy theory?

877
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Yep.

878
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: Did Op agreed to everything his mom said initially to

879
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: get the money, and then once everything was in motion,

880
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: was like, ah nah, which I think is an a

881
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: whole move totally. Is the a whole move not the

882
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: A whole move, is the reversal, not the act itself. Well,

883
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: so that's a great conspiracy theory, and I think you're

884
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: probably right. But let's pretend, let's pretend it's not even

885
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: that's not even reality.

886
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to let's go to a world where that

887
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: is not the case. He never he totally could have

888
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: not been the a hole and said like, hey, I'm

889
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: not gonna let you invite your your friend's mom. You

890
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: can't approve them once and then go back and remove them. Grew.

891
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: But on the flip side, it's his wedding, it is

892
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: I do.

893
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm very much on the vibes of just because someone

894
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: pays doesn't mean they can like take over and invite

895
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: who they want. But if you agree on something in

896
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: this specific context, just tell your mom from the jump

897
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: out the gate, I do not want.

898
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: These people on my wedding, yet never approve it to

899
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: begin with. Yeah, then you're in the clear. You're not

900
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: the ahole. I don't care if your mom paid. You

901
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: don't want these people at your wedding, Fine, that's that's

902
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: totally cool. So I think I think there's enough like

903
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: in my you know, redline, crazy FBI corkboard of the

904
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: brothers smithsdeeds, the groomsmith's deeds, there's enough here to to

905
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: pin him with the crime of being an a whole.

906
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: I throwing it down. I am I think I think

907
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: he's a whole ish. Yep, I think he's a whole ish.

908
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: But but do we yes, yes or no or not?

909
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna have to let the comments decide.

910
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: To I'm gonna say a hole. I have to say

911
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: a whole. But with the stipulation is it is his wedding? Yeah, okay,

912
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: And honestly, maybe you have a right to be an

913
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: a whole at your wedding, fair enough.

914
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: I'm I am super curious on the comments on this one.

915
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we might. I think we might be split. Yeah,

916
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: I think there might be a split. So let us

917
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: know what you think of the comments. But but I

918
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: also want to let you know something. Yeah, I have

919
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: one more final story, one more story. Let's freakin get

920
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: at it.

921
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: Let's do there.