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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into the Dog Bowl here in Barrea, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs alongside Brown senior staff writer Andrew Gribble,

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Speaker 1: Episode seven of the best podcast available. Making our March

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Speaker 1: Now slow and deliberate. I feel, like Gribbs as we

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Speaker 1: get ready for the draft coming up at the end

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Speaker 1: of April in Las Vegas. Yeah, this is definitely the

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Speaker 1: calm before the storm kind of week we have not

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Speaker 1: had much in terms of free agency activity, trade activity

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Speaker 1: which you're starting to ramp up. And yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of this is the hurry up and

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Speaker 1: wait period. But next week is where it really gets going. Yeah, finally, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like we're we are literally spinning our wheels.

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Speaker 1: We're all sitting and waiting, and it's not just even

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Speaker 1: at a team's standpoint, it's it's at a national standpoint.

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Speaker 1: You talk to national people and everybody is just waiting.

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Speaker 1: And now, um, with deadlines being pushed back regarding the

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Speaker 1: one time, and this is gonna be about a seventy

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Speaker 1: two to ninety six hour sprint Uh, to the start

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Speaker 1: of the new year on next Wednesday at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: And obviously we'll keep you posted on everything that goes

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Speaker 1: on on Cleveland Browns dot com and all of our platforms,

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Speaker 1: including Cleveland Browns Daily. But uh, all these deadlines getting

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Speaker 1: pushed back, it affects free agency, transition tags, franchise tags,

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Speaker 1: everything affects every team and it ultimately trickles down to

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Speaker 1: the draft level as well. Yeah, and I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing that's been affected is probably the free agents,

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's starting with obviously the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but usually by this point you've had a

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Speaker 1: lot more players that have linked back up with their

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Speaker 1: former team. And and and as I've been breaking down

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of stories written about certain players

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Speaker 1: there's just been there really hasn't been a lot of resignings,

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Speaker 1: so that's why you always get a lot of activity

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Speaker 1: then you're just gonna have all this other stuff happening

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Speaker 1: with a lot of potential re signings on top of

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Speaker 1: year knowing full well, and it's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: down the road. Yeah, And it's just I don't know

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Speaker 1: This is a position that I have not evaluated as

431
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Speaker 1: much as as some of the others. That it's the

432
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Speaker 1: one position the Browns are pretty solid at right now.

433
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Speaker 1: I just think that if the if you can get

434
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Speaker 1: a talented player later at running back. You do it,

435
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Speaker 1: and I think that there's some elite examples on even

436
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Speaker 1: like an execularity worth the high pick. Todd Gurley was

437
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Speaker 1: probably worth the high pick. I just think with these

438
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Speaker 1: two the better values to take the guy that's gonna

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Speaker 1: follow up. Are you surprised his rankings or Fort Dobbins?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's got Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, I wonder what's

441
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Speaker 1: the is the reasoning just because of it? Was the

442
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Speaker 1: injury something that that they worry about, or is that's who?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that I think I

444
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Speaker 1: think all these guys are gonna be solid. I don't know.

445
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Speaker 1: I didn't watch enough of DeAndre Swift to think that

446
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Speaker 1: he's going to be someone that's a game changer in

447
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Granted, I didn't think Alvin Camaro be a

448
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Speaker 1: game changer when he came out as a third round prospect.

449
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Speaker 1: But I just look at this that those two guys.

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Speaker 1: If I'm deciding between taking DeAndre Swift in the first

451
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Speaker 1: round or j K. Dobbins in the second round, I'm

452
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Speaker 1: taking Jacob Dobbins in the second round. All right, who

453
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Speaker 1: would you rather have? Joe Burrow, who's number two on

454
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Speaker 1: this list? Or a healthy to a Tago viola. I

455
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Speaker 1: still can't say I'm taking I'm taking Joe Burrow in

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Speaker 1: this situation, because even if to U gets to be

457
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Speaker 1: a percent healthy, I don't know if there's a guarantee

458
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Speaker 1: he's going to stay healthy. And I think when you've

459
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Speaker 1: had significant injuries in basically the two most important years

460
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Speaker 1: of your career, I just I worry about the bumps

461
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Speaker 1: and bruises compiling on you. I mean, we we've talked

462
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Speaker 1: with obviously apples and oranges comparison, but we've talked to

463
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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, who whose career ended on one injury, but

464
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Speaker 1: it was the accumulation of all of them that really

465
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Speaker 1: wore him down and made it tough to recover from

466
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Speaker 1: that last injury. I just I worry about that aspect

467
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Speaker 1: of it. And I just think that even though I

468
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Speaker 1: think to two of might have some better tools, some

469
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Speaker 1: maybe some some intter accuracy things like that, I I

470
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Speaker 1: just I go with the guy who had the most

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Speaker 1: special season in a decade, and I don't think I

472
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Speaker 1: don't think twice. I don't feel bad about it now

473
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Speaker 1: because I think he was I think he was solid

474
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Speaker 1: the previous year, not great but I think that they

475
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Speaker 1: just they figured out what worked there and got it work,

476
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Speaker 1: and I think both are special talents. I'm gonna go

477
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Speaker 1: to get with the guy that I can bank on

478
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Speaker 1: being healthy, and I just think that's so much, so

479
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Speaker 1: important with quarterback position all right. Again, if the draft

480
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Speaker 1: were happened today, offensive line, yeah, backed in at six,

481
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Speaker 1: Will's ranked twelve worse his Ranke Andrew Thomas sev Again,

482
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Speaker 1: it's awful early. There's a lot still to come. We

483
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Speaker 1: still have pro days, we still have guys coming into

484
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Speaker 1: the building for interviews, and we know how important that

485
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Speaker 1: is and how big role that's played in who we've

486
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Speaker 1: drafted over the last couple of years. We don't We're not.

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Speaker 1: We're I'm in for all any of the four. I

488
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Speaker 1: know you are too, I believe, But if you had

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Speaker 1: to take one, who would you take. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: leaning Wills with this pick right now because I trust

491
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Speaker 1: our guy, Dane, and I trust the fact that most

492
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Speaker 1: people believe this guy has the best overall skills at

493
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Speaker 1: what he showed at his position. I'm nervous about the

494
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Speaker 1: projection of moving him to left tackle when he hasn't

495
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Speaker 1: done it, But I just feel based on hearing from

496
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Speaker 1: Dane and then hearing from guys like Joe Thomas and

497
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Speaker 1: Greco who worry about Tristan Worth's worry about his long

498
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Speaker 1: term future as a tackle. That's why I put Wills first,

499
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Speaker 1: Worth second, Thomas third, Beckton fourth. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm going against the grain with my Beckton prediction. I

501
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Speaker 1: I go in worrying. I think they're all great, and

502
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Speaker 1: if any of them are are on the board, you

503
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Speaker 1: go grab them. I I worry about the having to

504
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Speaker 1: get a guy in and start telling him to lose weight.

505
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Speaker 1: I I that's the thing that that holds me back

506
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Speaker 1: with with him. I think he's a freakish athlete. Those

507
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Speaker 1: are the things that if I'm picking knits here with

508
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Speaker 1: with these guys, I want a guy that I feel

509
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Speaker 1: like it's the most plugging play at either of the

510
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Speaker 1: left tackle or right tackle spots. And I think Wills

511
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Speaker 1: is the guy that I can plug in and worry

512
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Speaker 1: the least about. And that's what I'm looking for. On April,

513
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Speaker 1: you have to draft one of these four probably, yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: and that a week one they better be in the

515
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Speaker 1: starting role. Yeah. And and if you you can't play

516
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Speaker 1: games or developed here and if most people think you're

517
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Speaker 1: gonna have to trade up to get back, then I'm

518
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Speaker 1: not interested. I definitely I'm not interested in trading up

519
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Speaker 1: to get one of these guys because I think all

520
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Speaker 1: four are all right, are good enough to to help

521
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Speaker 1: what you want. Now, the football side here might have

522
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Speaker 1: a different evaluation on who fits the scheme better. I

523
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Speaker 1: don't think we have enough advanced knowledge on on that

524
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Speaker 1: just yet. It could be none of these guys. It

525
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Speaker 1: could be a Josh Jones or in Austin Jackson or

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Speaker 1: someone else. And ezrare Cleveland. Uh, but from what we

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Speaker 1: know about these guys so far, I think Wills is

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Speaker 1: the guy that I'm I'm all about. Just give me

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Speaker 1: the least amount of stress. I think Jendrick Wills gives

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Speaker 1: you the least a mount stress. All right, Lotto game time.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's top fifth NFL Draft prospect rankings three point oh.

532
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Speaker 1: Be sure to check those out at NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's a little draft talk time. Now for a little

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Speaker 1: free agency talk and a little free agency preview, because

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Speaker 1: when we join you one week from now, on March nine,

536
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Speaker 1: the landscape is gonna look a little different around the

537
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Speaker 1: national Football League we think. I mean, I don't think

538
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be any more delays, but who knows. I mean,

539
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Speaker 1: I think the Browns are in a position now they

540
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Speaker 1: there there's a little the roster is going to look

541
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Speaker 1: different in a week or so from now, whether it's

542
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Speaker 1: different in terms of a couple of big free agents,

543
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Speaker 1: a multitude of guys that can help you out of

544
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Speaker 1: variety of spots. I just think you're in a position

545
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Speaker 1: now where you have areas to address and a lot

546
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Speaker 1: of different spots. And like we always used to hear,

547
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Speaker 1: you don't want to go into the draft thinking you

548
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Speaker 1: have to get this certain position. So this is where

549
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Speaker 1: you cover your bases a little bit, and then going

550
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Speaker 1: to the draft being able to draft the guys who

551
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Speaker 1: you would just believe it the best overall players. All right,

552
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Speaker 1: What can Slash should we expect when free agency begins

553
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Speaker 1: next week when it comes to the Browns and how

554
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Speaker 1: active they might be. I mean a year ago it

555
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit different story. This year, It'll be

556
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Speaker 1: interesting to see how active we are in those first

557
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Speaker 1: forty years. I just with the looming extensions on some

558
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: of your core players, I just have a hard time

559
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Speaker 1: believing that this is going to be a team that

560
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: breaks the bank, because I think there's just enough knowledge

561
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: out there that shows that free agency is fool's gold.

562
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Speaker 1: Is that you sign these guys and a lot of

563
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: times sometimes you get a J. C. Treader who proves

564
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: to be worth every single dollar you spent. Other times

565
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Speaker 1: you get a Kenny Brett, you know. I mean, there's

566
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: just there's this different and and a lot more times

567
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up with the Buyers or morse in

568
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: free agency than you are with feeling good about what

569
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Speaker 1: you did what you did in that department. So I

570
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Speaker 1: would I would just expect finding maybe it's a it's

571
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: a larger quantity of guys to help fill needs, but

572
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Speaker 1: maybe not some of the high profile names out there.

573
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Speaker 1: There really aren't a ton of high profile names outside

574
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in this year's class. But the highest profile

575
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Speaker 1: names that I could maybe see the Browns having an

576
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Speaker 1: interest in, or the two that play positions and needs.

577
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Speaker 1: That's an Anthony Harris, the Viking safety who's gonna receive

578
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: a big payday, and at Jack Conklin. Those are your

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Speaker 1: two biggest names I would imagine the Browns have to

580
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Speaker 1: or would at least poke around with those guys. Would

581
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Speaker 1: it surprise me if they got one? No? Would it

582
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Speaker 1: surprised me they got both, Yes, Would it surprise me

583
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Speaker 1: if they got none, No, it would not surprise me. So,

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Speaker 1: but I think that safety, tackle, they will be addressed

585
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Speaker 1: in free agency. Whether or not it's it's big names

586
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Speaker 1: or names, you know that that remains to be seen

587
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: at this point. All right, what are the three biggest needs?

588
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Speaker 1: If you had to say, I mean, I think we

589
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: both have the same but I'm interested to know that

590
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: this team can immediately address address in free agency? What

591
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: are the three biggest I think through free agency the

592
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: needs that you're going to be able to address our safety, uh,

593
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Speaker 1: potentially tackle, because I think there's some guys out there,

594
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: maybe not players that you think are gonna be long

595
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: term options, but guys that can that can fill some holes.

596
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Speaker 1: And I I would guess linebacker. I think that's somewhere

597
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: you can add some at least get some bodies at

598
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Speaker 1: those positions. Whether or not it remains whether or not

599
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Speaker 1: you're you're filling those holes long term, that's probably not

600
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Speaker 1: gonna happen in free agency. The one that I struggle

601
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: with is is a need on this team is tight end.

602
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Speaker 1: I just don't know if you're going to be able

603
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: to fully satisfy it in in free agency because the

604
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: top options are going to be expensive and then the

605
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Speaker 1: rest are just guys that might be filling in some

606
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: holes for you. No, that's why I could see that

607
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Speaker 1: making a splash with one player and then getting guys

608
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: you know they tier free agents. You see have the

609
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Speaker 1: first tier and then maybe like a tier two or

610
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Speaker 1: Tier three that they're going to invest a little bit

611
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Speaker 1: more in those guys. Yeah, I've seen someone bring this

612
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: up at the name is c me on Twitter. But

613
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Speaker 1: there's like the philosophy that a team like the Buffalo

614
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: Bills did a couple of years ago where they're just

615
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Speaker 1: adding guys that aren't these big names, but they're filling

616
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Speaker 1: needs on what they do on offense. Like a player

617
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Speaker 1: like a John Brown wasn't a big name coming out

618
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Speaker 1: of Arizona because of injuries. He fits what they needed

619
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Speaker 1: to do do well and he thrived in Buffalo. So

620
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: there's there's just guys that you have to be selective

621
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Speaker 1: and getting, whether or not their big names remains to

622
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Speaker 1: be seen, Like like a signing like last year before

623
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Speaker 1: the injury. I would say it was safe to say

624
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Speaker 1: the Morgan Burnett signing was not a big name signing,

625
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 1: but it was one that worked out and made sense

626
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Speaker 1: for your team. Burnett played well, played better than he

627
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Speaker 1: played for the Steelers, was a veteran in the locker room.

628
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Speaker 1: He gave you what you needed. So it's it's signings

629
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Speaker 1: like that that I could see this team making a

630
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Speaker 1: love without going out and breaking the bank and having

631
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Speaker 1: this massive offseason and leaving yourself in a tough position

632
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Speaker 1: to to really start working on extensions with some of

633
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Speaker 1: your bigger names. All right, excuse me. So that being said,

634
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: is there do you see a guy when you look

635
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: down the list of free agents that could be that

636
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: that this year is Morgan Burnett. So there's a couple

637
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: I and they both play safety, and I would say

638
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: a Jimmy Ward from San Francisco has knowledge of of

639
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: has obviously worked closely with Joe Woods. Uh, he's he's

640
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of his career about six year guy.

641
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Last year was the healthiest he's ever been, So that's

642
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: gonna maybe hurt his value and that he has not

643
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: been consistently healthy. But he's someone you could probably get

644
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Speaker 1: at a decent price that could help fill a multiple

645
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Speaker 1: needs in comfort within your defense. I also really like

646
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: how ha Clinton Dicks from the Bears. He's been He's

647
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: been an every game starter every year has been in

648
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. He plays that deep safely right, He's he's

649
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: got playoff experience, He's a veteran. I think he could

650
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: help this team a lot and not cost a ton

651
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: of money. That the tackle you hear about a lot

652
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: that might be able to help you depth wise as

653
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: a hello, Holla party. Vitai from the Eagles, He's got

654
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: about twenty career starts over were seasons. Uh. They obviously

655
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles had Lane Johnson and Jason Peters hard to

656
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: crack that rotation, but when they needed him in during

657
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl run, he played just fine for ten

658
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: games during that season and helped them along the way

659
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Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. He's going to be someone who,

660
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: based on experience, is probably gonna get paid more than

661
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: what you would expect because he's young, he's improving. I

662
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: would honestly, he's almost He would probably be the Chris

663
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: Hubbard of this year's free agent class, where Hubbard was

664
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Speaker 1: mostly a bench guy filled in nicely as a starter

665
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: and got paid like a starting offensive tackle because those

666
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: guys get paid. And he's he is so much younger

667
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: than the majority of the tackles on the market right now.

668
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: There the that's the that's the theme of the tackle market,

669
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Speaker 1: as they're all really old and and the ones that

670
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Speaker 1: are younger obviously I've improven themselves yet or they had

671
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: have already resigned with their teams. All right, let's take

672
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Speaker 1: a look around the a f C North. I mean,

673
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: we we could talk about the big stories are Tom

674
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Speaker 1: Brady and Philip Rivers and where all the quarter backs

675
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Speaker 1: are gonna go. But I wanted to stay in the

676
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Speaker 1: a f C North because everybody's talking about the bigger

677
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: picture stuff. But let's let's talk about the teams that

678
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see and see quite frequently. Everybody

679
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: has some big decisions to make, especially in Baltimore and

680
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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Let's start first of all with the Ravens.

681
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Marshal Yonda retiring. That's a big hole that they're gonna

682
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: have to fill. Matthew Judean, what what are they gonna

683
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Speaker 1: do with him? Are they gonna franchise? All signs point

684
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Speaker 1: to that they might, but they don't have a lot

685
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: of caper. Yeah, and the f C North have done

686
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: a few free agency roundups over the last fo years.

687
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Speaker 1: The theme of the a f C North is not

688
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Speaker 1: a lot of activity and free agency. None of these

689
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: teams really are. And I think that the Ravens have

690
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: been notorious with this. They are like the COMPIC national champions.

691
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: They always get compensed story picks because they let They

692
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: can let their guys walk, they can let us C. J.

693
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Speaker 1: Mosley walk because they have a system in place where

694
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Speaker 1: they are able to fill these kind of holes. Now,

695
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: last year it was almost a little uncharacteristic of them,

696
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: but they fit filled some knees with some big name

697
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: guys and free agency. But even then they did it

698
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Speaker 1: without breaking the bank. I think they brought in an

699
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas and a Mark Ingram who Earl Thomas may

700
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: not his best football is probably behind him, but he

701
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: was kind of a culture changer for that team. Mark

702
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: Ingram I think was a huge signing for them. Must

703
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: It changed everything what they did on offense because you

704
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: couldn't load up the box with safeties because he's he'll

705
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: run those safeties over. And then I had opened up

706
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 1: things for Lamar Jackson. I thought when they he was out,

707
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: they struggled a little bit when he was not fully healthy.

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens can do that. But I think the

709
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: overall this is a this is a division that has

710
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: been so successful with the Ravens, Scelers because they've built

711
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Speaker 1: through the draft, built through their systems, and only use

712
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Speaker 1: free agency and when they've absolutely had to. And the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Bengals, they they're not They're not a

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Speaker 1: team that's been the most active in free agency, and

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Speaker 1: I still wouldn't expect them to be that this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think if you take a look at Cincinnati, it

717
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Speaker 1: sounds like they're gonna franchise a J. Green because Joe

718
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Speaker 1: Burrow would like them to. That one still puzzles me.

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Speaker 1: I guess I just like I don' I respect a J. Green,

720
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: great player. I just I just wonder where that decision.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I guess I think it's just receiver,

722
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Speaker 1: right I I just wonder why. I obviously know he's

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Speaker 1: important to the culture of that team, but he's been

724
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: hurt the last few years and he's a wide receiver

725
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: near the end of his career. He's gonna cost a

726
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Speaker 1: lot of money, even on the franchise tag, but I

727
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: know they wouldn't want to make a long term commitment

728
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Speaker 1: to him. If they can afford it, so be it.

729
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Speaker 1: But I just I don't know if I'm more don't

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Speaker 1: understand why A You're going to be frustrated by that

731
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Speaker 1: because I just don't see him getting that kind of

732
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Speaker 1: money on the open market, and I just don't see

733
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Speaker 1: that happening. So uh, it'll it will Obviously a healthy

734
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: A j Green will help out Joe Burrow, and I

735
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: guess that's what they're banking on. Yeah, And then you

736
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Speaker 1: got to find out if you're going to keep Andy Dalton?

737
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Speaker 1: Does Andy Dalton want to stick around? What's the market

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Speaker 1: for Andy Dalton with all the other quarterbacks both in

739
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: the draft and already in free agency, what can you

740
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: get for him? Who's gonna want that salary? I'm on

741
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Andy dal Nyland where I think he has a starting quarterback.

742
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: I think he is a starting quarterback in the Yeah,

743
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: I think well not. I think he's obviously worn out

744
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: as welcome in in Cincinnati. It's sometimes it gets a

745
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: little stale. It's gotten stale. I still think he is

746
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: a good enough quarterback to be a starting quarterback in

747
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like if, for some reason, if Tom Brady

748
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Speaker 1: does not go back to the Patriots and the Patriots

749
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Speaker 1: go after Andy Dalton, I think they will still be

750
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: a playoff team. I think he is solid, He's not great.

751
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: I think if he goes to Chicago, Mitch Drabinsky would

752
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: have a hard time beating him out in a quarterback competition.

753
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Speaker 1: That's just where I'm at with Andy Dalton. Is he

754
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: a top twenty quarterback? No? Is he maybe outside? Is

755
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: he in the top twenty five? Yes? And I think

756
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: that makes him good enough to be a starting quarterback

757
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL. All right, Taking a look at Pittsburgh

758
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Bud Dupree, what they do with him? They have, they

759
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: have very limited cap space. Do they really want to

760
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: make a franchise offered to bud Dupree? It doesn't appear

761
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: that they want to. I I've seen some stories here

762
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: this week that have them maybe shopping for a quarterback,

763
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: maybe even I saw a story about Jamis Winston and

764
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: them having an interest in Jamis. I don't know what

765
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: that would cost. I can't imagine they've got the money

766
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: or the you know, the camp space to make a

767
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: run of a guy like that, but who it would

768
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: make sense for them to go after quarterback because after

769
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: what they went through last year, even though they limped

770
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: their way almost to the playoffs with uh just they're

771
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: a really bad set of situations for them. You can't

772
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: feel good about either those backups after what you saw

773
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: out to them, and you also can't feel great about

774
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: the long term health of your quarterback who just had

775
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: a serious elbow injury. So you've got to have some

776
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: kind of insurance because the Steelers expect to be a

777
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: ten win team in the playoffs every year, and when

778
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: they fall short of that, that's a failure. And so

779
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: they're there. They need to have a better backup plan,

780
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be able to get it. Whether

781
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: it's like a could they be a team that get

782
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: to Marcus Mariotta, could they get a case Key? I

783
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: mean that would I think they'd feel a lot better

784
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: about their backup situation with one of those then. Obviously

785
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: Doc Hodges had some magic, but you were really limited

786
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: in what you could do offensively, and Mason real off,

787
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: I just don't think it was very good. Yeah, I

788
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: don't remember the last time the Steelers probably felt good

789
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: about their backup QB situation. Obviously they had big Ben though,

790
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: so it was Tommy Maddox's backup quarterback at one point. Yes,

791
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: he was all right way back when that that, but

792
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: that just shows you how long it's been and how

793
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: durable big Ben really has been and how much he

794
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: has meant to that franchise. The one guy in Pittsburgh

795
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: that I think bears watching his Vance McDonald at the

796
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: tight end. You mentioned the Browns and needing a tight end.

797
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: Could he be a guy he looks like all signs

798
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: out of Pittsburgh say he's gonna be a cap casualty

799
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: and he's going to be allowed to leave your free agencies.

800
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: At a guy the Browns could target, I'd like him

801
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: because he's bigger. I mean, that's the kind of tight

802
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: end you need on this team. I would have no

803
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: problem bringing him in here. I think that he's solid.

804
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: He's not going to be like a big time fantasy

805
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: tight end type guy for you, but that's not I

806
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: don't think that's what this team needs. You need guys

807
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: that can block and guys that can make plays in

808
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: the red zone. And I think I think a guy

809
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: like Vin's McDonald kind of fits both of those, and

810
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: you'd feel much better about him producing you would with

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00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: any of these guys in the draft. All Right, So

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00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: that's a look around the a f C North Again.

813
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: A lot to happen over the next seven to eight days.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with you next Thursday, March twelve. The

815
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: landscape will look very different, especially when it comes to

816
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns roster. Do you have a bold prediction?

817
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: I had it down on the rundown. One bold prediction

818
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: as it pertains to free agency, can be Browns related,

819
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: can be NFL related, that one week from now, when

820
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: we're back something will have or have not happened. I

821
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: I my bold prediction with the Browns because who cares

822
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: about my opinions about the NFL. But my prediction with

823
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: the Browns is that this team addresses needs via trade,

824
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: maybe as much as they do in free agency. I

825
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: think that's the pedigree that Andrew Berry has grown, grown up,

826
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: grown in the NFL around whether it be John Dorsey

827
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: or Howie Roseman. I think that there's not been enough

828
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: talk about how this team can get better through trades,

829
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: just because they're having any trades happening in the FL

830
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: right now, those can still very much happen. I expect

831
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: some maybe hammer away at some of those positions in

832
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: need with and when you do it with trades, you're

833
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: doing with names that we're not talking about. So those

834
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I imagine that there will be a couple of players

835
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: in this roster who have not been discussed because there

836
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: is the ability to go get them through trades. I

837
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: will tell you that one week from now, Tom Brady

838
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: still will not have a team, and that could leave

839
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: us all in limbo still as it pertains to NFL

840
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: free agency. From a big picture standpoint, I would not

841
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: be surprised if he if this drags out and comes

842
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: closer to April than the deadline, which is March eleventh

843
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: at four o'clock. I hate to see it for the

844
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: Patriots hanging hanging in limbo. Yeah, I think I think

845
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: they can deal with. They'll be fine one way or

846
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: the other. You know, Mr Kraft can just polish up

847
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: his Super Bowl trophies and the sun will still come

848
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: up tomorrow. All right. If you like this podcast, you

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00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,440
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